> Careful, Jenn. Gweggie's afraid of women who actually have brains. > He's
> looking for a Stepford wife, and preferably a transsexual one.
See, that's were you're wrong. I'm not looking for a wife. A companion would be nice but a wife, no freaking way. Wives too often become clinging vines. I can't abide that. I have enough problems of my own without saddling myself with somebody else's.
What I look for in a woman is independence, intelligence and the good sense to bring to a relationship equal sharing of responsibility. I desire a woman who is bright enough to stimulate my mind and pretty enough to stimulate my manly desires. I also require that the woman defer to my decisions when there is a dispute. Of course, I welcome her input and if she's bright enough and makes a good enough point I'm often willing to change my mind. But, somebody's got to be the ultimate arbiter in some cases and that would be me. If the woman can't abide this kind of a relationship then she should look elsewhere.
A good conservative woman is a happy woman because she has certain values and standards she adheres to. A good conservative man realizes this and acts to compliment the woman's needs. But, perhaps the very best thing about a true conservative woman is she is happy fulfilling the sometimes subservient role that is required of her. She knows that in doing so she will be loved all the more because of it. This is something that entirely escapes the liberal woman who wishes to usurp the rightful role of a man.
Uh, are you capable of reading with comprehension? Did I not just post in another thread that math is not something I excel at. Math was one of the less inspiring areas of expertise in my IQ tests. I let adding machines and computers do the math as I can't abide nigger work. Never could; never will. Can't see the point of it.
And, don't call me a racist. I'm not about to bow down to the politically correct crowd's dictates that are tarnishing the brightness of the English language because of little itty bitty hurt feelwings (sic).
> pandora wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:06:39 +0000, §nühw?£f wrote:
>>> Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
>>>> "Checkmate" <LunaticFri...@The.Edge> wrote in message
>>>> news:MPG.29c6e880556df6d398a9a2@news.alt.net...
>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading >>>>> posts
>>>>> by Checkmate!
>>>>> First, check out what Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. said:
>>>>>> "Jenn" <n...@em.ail> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:jjjbf4$k9a$3@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>> On 3/11/2012 5:39 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
>>>>>> [trim]
>>>>>>>> And all of them are probably grotesque!
>>>>>>> His daughter is quite beautiful!
>>>>>> Yah, I hear that all the time. Every parent thinks their own kids >>>>>> are
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> most beautiful in the whole world even if they are grotesque to
>>>>>> everybody
>>>>>> else.
>>>>> How come you don't have any kids, Gweggie?
>>>> None of your beeswax!
>>> Because every once in a while...karma plays out for the benefit of all
>>> mankind.
>>> <nods>
>> If true, t'would definitely be a boon.
> It goes for everyone at this point. We are beyond the Earths "carrying > capacity". We're operating in a ecological deficit.
True and all the more reason all these slutty women should keep their knees together.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> And all of them are probably grotesque!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > His daughter is quite beautiful!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Yah, I hear that all the time. Every parent thinks
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> their
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> own
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> kids
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> are
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> most beautiful in the whole world even if they are
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> grotesque
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> everybody
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> else.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> How come you don't have any kids, Gweggie?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> None of your beeswax!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Because every once in a while...karma plays out for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the benefit
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> mankind.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <nods>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > If true, t'would definitely be a boon.
>> >> >> >> >> >> I have some "wild oat" kids and probably even some
>> >> >> >> >> >> grandchildren
>> >> >> >> >> >> by
>> >> >> >> >> >> now.
>> >> >> >> >> > Sort of like a deadbeat dad?
>> >> >> >> >> Wrong! A deadbeat dad is a man who got married and knocked
>> >> >> >> >> up his
>> >> >> >> >> wife
>> >> >> >> >> then ran out on his obligations. In my case, the women were
>> >> >> >> >> horny
>> >> >> >> >> 1960's
>> >> >> >> >> hippies who just wanted to copulate for fun and they had no
>> >> >> >> >> intentions
>> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> getting married. If and when sluts like these get pregnant
>> >> >> >> >> the child
>> >> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> >> entirely their responsibility, theirs to raise and support.
>> >> >> >> >> I sure
>> >> >> >> >> didn't
>> >> >> >> >> MAKE them promiscuous. They were in the vanguard of the
>> >> >> >> >> liberated
>> >> >> >> >> women.
>> >> >> >> >> Odd isn't it how their being liberated forced them to take
>> >> >> >> >> twenty
>> >> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> >> so
>> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> the best years of their lives to raise a child or children
>> >> >> >> >> all by
>> >> >> >> >> their
>> >> >> >> >> liberated selves. Serves 'em right, I say.
>> >> >> >> > Wow.
>> >> >> >> > Just wow...
>> >> >> >> Yup, the logic cannot be faulted! A simpler way to state it
>> >> >> >> would be:
>> >> >> >> They
>> >> >> >> made their own beds so they can lie in them.
>> >> >> >> Liberals generally have to learn the hard way the belief that
>> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> aren't
>> >> >> >> responsible for anything and that anything difficult or bad
>> >> >> >> that happens
>> >> >> >> to them is just bad luck is a liberal lie.
>> >> >> > So if you knocked some girl up because you BOTH made the
>> >> >> > decision to
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > sex, it's her job to raise the kids solely at her expense, and
>> >> >> > you just
>> >> >> > walk away with absolutely NO responsibility whatsoever? What a
>> >> >> > fuckhead.
>> >> >> That's where you're delusional. Women are the sole decision
>> >> >> makers when
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> comes to copulation. They either want it and allow it or they
>> >> >> don't want
>> >> >> it and don't allow it. (not talking about instances of rape here)
>> >> >> If women allow copulation and they don't use birth control, any
>> >> >> pregnancy
>> >> >> is entirely their own fault and their sole responsibility. Your
>> >> >> logic
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> flawed. Using your logic I could say food is equally responsible
>> >> >> as Ragnar
>> >> >> is for Ragnar's obesity.
>> >> > Using your own argument, the same would apply to a married couple
>> >> > if the
>> >> > man decided to walk away. The courts and Child Protective
>> >> > Services say
>> >> > otherwise in either case. Your own conscience should say
>> >> > otherwise. This is what I don't get about you, Greg/Neal/Whatever.
>> >> > You're obviously
>> >> > intelligent and educated, but you have some very whacked-out
>> >> > ideas. I
>> >> > would think you'd know better.
>> >> What you call 'whacked out' ideas are anything but as they are based
>> >> upon
>> >> the dictates of logic. It's a real shame that logic is no longer
>> >> taught in
>> >> the liberal public educational system below college level. The lack
>> >> of logic is responsible for most, if not all, the idiocy that
>> >> surrounds us in
>> >> this day and age. Logic has been replaced by politically correct
>> >> thinking
>> >> which is but another term for * institutionalized insanity*.
>> > "Logically," do you think it's in society's best interest to allow
>> > children to be born into this world without the financial support of
>> > both
>> > parents who brought them into the world in the first place? Do you
>> > think
>> > that's beneficial to the child? If he's brought up in poverty and
>> > under-
>> > educated because of this lack of support, do you think that benefits
>> > society?
>> Another straw man argument! You are proficient at building annexes and
>> then asking for me to defend or deny the annex. Beneficial to society
>> or benefit to the child has NOTHING to do with 100% responsibility for
>> what one does with one's body and the consequences of one's actions
>> respecting that body. Societal laws, more often than not, purposely
>> degrade the very idea of individual responsibility. Society IS
>> anti-individual, after all.
> Public policy in regards to the care and feeding of children is in
> everyone's best interest, and is meant for people like you who think
> they can hop from hole to hole like a naughty little bunny with no
> regard for the consequences. It's a shame we have to legislate morality
> and responsibility, but some people are recklessly irresponsible... like
> you, for instance.
Indeed. If not for irresponsible individuals such as gweggie, we wouldn't need laws regulating such. Sad but true.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> And all of them are probably grotesque!
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > His daughter is quite beautiful!
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Yah, I hear that all the time. Every parent thinks
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> their
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> own
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> kids
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> are
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> the
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> most beautiful in the whole world even if they are
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> grotesque
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> to
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> everybody
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> else.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> How come you don't have any kids, Gweggie?
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> None of your beeswax!
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Because every once in a while...karma plays out for
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the benefit
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> all
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> mankind.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <nods>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > If true, t'would definitely be a boon.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> I have some "wild oat" kids and probably even some
>>> >> >> >> >> >> grandchildren
>>> >> >> >> >> >> by
>>> >> >> >> >> >> now.
>>> >> >> >> >> > Sort of like a deadbeat dad?
>>> >> >> >> >> Wrong! A deadbeat dad is a man who got married and knocked
>>> >> >> >> >> up his
>>> >> >> >> >> wife
>>> >> >> >> >> then ran out on his obligations. In my case, the women were
>>> >> >> >> >> horny
>>> >> >> >> >> 1960's
>>> >> >> >> >> hippies who just wanted to copulate for fun and they had no
>>> >> >> >> >> intentions
>>> >> >> >> >> of
>>> >> >> >> >> getting married. If and when sluts like these get pregnant
>>> >> >> >> >> the child
>>> >> >> >> >> is
>>> >> >> >> >> entirely their responsibility, theirs to raise and support.
>>> >> >> >> >> I sure
>>> >> >> >> >> didn't
>>> >> >> >> >> MAKE them promiscuous. They were in the vanguard of the
>>> >> >> >> >> liberated
>>> >> >> >> >> women.
>>> >> >> >> >> Odd isn't it how their being liberated forced them to take
>>> >> >> >> >> twenty
>>> >> >> >> >> or
>>> >> >> >> >> so
>>> >> >> >> >> of
>>> >> >> >> >> the best years of their lives to raise a child or children
>>> >> >> >> >> all by
>>> >> >> >> >> their
>>> >> >> >> >> liberated selves. Serves 'em right, I say.
>>> >> >> >> > Wow.
>>> >> >> >> > Just wow...
>>> >> >> >> Yup, the logic cannot be faulted! A simpler way to state it
>>> >> >> >> would be:
>>> >> >> >> They
>>> >> >> >> made their own beds so they can lie in them.
>>> >> >> >> Liberals generally have to learn the hard way the belief that
>>> >> >> >> they
>>> >> >> >> aren't
>>> >> >> >> responsible for anything and that anything difficult or bad
>>> >> >> >> that happens
>>> >> >> >> to them is just bad luck is a liberal lie.
>>> >> >> > So if you knocked some girl up because you BOTH made the
>>> >> >> > decision to
>>> >> >> > have
>>> >> >> > sex, it's her job to raise the kids solely at her expense, and
>>> >> >> > you just
>>> >> >> > walk away with absolutely NO responsibility whatsoever? What a
>>> >> >> > fuckhead.
>>> >> >> That's where you're delusional. Women are the sole decision
>>> >> >> makers when
>>> >> >> it
>>> >> >> comes to copulation. They either want it and allow it or they
>>> >> >> don't want
>>> >> >> it and don't allow it. (not talking about instances of rape here)
>>> >> >> If women allow copulation and they don't use birth control, any
>>> >> >> pregnancy
>>> >> >> is entirely their own fault and their sole responsibility. Your
>>> >> >> logic
>>> >> >> is
>>> >> >> flawed. Using your logic I could say food is equally responsible
>>> >> >> as Ragnar
>>> >> >> is for Ragnar's obesity.
>>> >> > Using your own argument, the same would apply to a married couple
>>> >> > if the
>>> >> > man decided to walk away. The courts and Child Protective
>>> >> > Services say
>>> >> > otherwise in either case. Your own conscience should say
>>> >> > otherwise. This is what I don't get about you, Greg/Neal/Whatever.
>>> >> > You're obviously
>>> >> > intelligent and educated, but you have some very whacked-out
>>> >> > ideas. I
>>> >> > would think you'd know better.
>>> >> What you call 'whacked out' ideas are anything but as they are based
>>> >> upon
>>> >> the dictates of logic. It's a real shame that logic is no longer
>>> >> taught in
>>> >> the liberal public educational system below college level. The lack
>>> >> of logic is responsible for most, if not all, the idiocy that
>>> >> surrounds us in
>>> >> this day and age. Logic has been replaced by politically correct
>>> >> thinking
>>> >> which is but another term for * institutionalized insanity*.
>>> > "Logically," do you think it's in society's best interest to allow
>>> > children to be born into this world without the financial support of
>>> > both
>>> > parents who brought them into the world in the first place? Do you
>>> > think
>>> > that's beneficial to the child? If he's brought up in poverty and
>>> > under-
>>> > educated because of this lack of support, do you think that benefits
>>> > society?
>>> Another straw man argument! You are proficient at building annexes and
>>> then asking for me to defend or deny the annex. Beneficial to society
>>> or benefit to the child has NOTHING to do with 100% responsibility for
>>> what one does with one's body and the consequences of one's actions
>>> respecting that body. Societal laws, more often than not, purposely
>>> degrade the very idea of individual responsibility. Society IS
>>> anti-individual, after all.
>> Public policy in regards to the care and feeding of children is in
>> everyone's best interest, and is meant for people like you who think
>> they can hop from hole to hole like a naughty little bunny with no
>> regard for the consequences. It's a shame we have to legislate morality
>> and responsibility, but some people are recklessly irresponsible... like
>> you, for instance.
>Indeed. If not for irresponsible individuals such as gweggie, we >wouldn't need laws regulating such. Sad but
>> Yes it was. Apparently if a woman practiced "free love," she was a >> slut
>> and it was her responsibility to take care of any kids if she got
>> pregnant. Greg feels that he would have no responsibility for any form
>> of support because it was her fault for not using birth control, so he
>> was free to just walk away.
> well.. I kind of agree with that assessment of women who do that sort of > thing ... BUT, the men who make them sluts are just as bad, imo... man > sluts? Women should know better than to think they can play and not > have to pay the consequences.
BINGO! It sure is refreshing to read a woman who's not just a big hypocrite.
I get so sick of hearing some woman stridently claiming, "It's my body and I can do with it as I wish." "Nobody can tell me what to do with my body. If I wish to get an abortion then it's nobody else's business but mine." "The government has no right to tell me what I can do in the privacy of my bedroom. It's all me, myself and I. (But when she gets pregnant how come she points her finger at a man and says "It's 50% about him, 50% his fault?")
If a woman really believes what she's saying about it being her body to do with as she will then she should also believe she's 100 responsible for her body which means she's 100% responsible if her body gets pregnant (barring rape, of course). All she has to do to prevent pregnancy is not copulate with a fertile man.
A woman's body, a woman's choice = a woman's responsibility. It doesn't get much more clear than that.
>>> You're starting to sound a lot like one of Greg's many socks, Jenn.
>> Its an actual separate being...they just drink the same wingnut k00l-
>> aid...
>> <nods>
> ... which really means .. I have a mind of my own not controlled by the > status quo at large and I'm fully capable of coming to an informed > conclusion on my own AND have no need for government or anyone else to > do any thinking for me since I'm fully capable of doing so myself.
I think I'm in LOVE!! We need more Jenn's around here just to counterbalance the liberals dullards and drones like Shiny, Pandora, Rhonda, and Lardy Veteran.
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!
> First, check out what Jenn said:
>> On 3/13/2012 11:33 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts >> > by
>> > Checkmate!
>> > First, check out what Jenn said:
>> >> On 3/13/2012 12:41 AM, Checkmate wrote:
>> >>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading >> >>> posts by
>> >>> Checkmate!
>> >>> First, check out what Jenn said:
>> >>>> On 3/12/2012 11:19 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>> >>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading >> >>>>> posts by
>> >>>>> Checkmate!
>> >>>>> First, check out what Jenn said:
>> >>>>>> On 3/12/2012 11:01 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading >> >>>>>>> posts by
>> >>>>>>> Checkmate!
>> >>>>>>> First, check out what Jenn said:
>> >>>>>>>> §ñühwö£f wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> "Jenn"<m...@noe.mail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>> news:jjl4pd$dgc$1@dont-email.me...
>> >>>>>>>>>>> §nühw?£f wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Checkmate"<LunaticFri...@The.Edge> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:MPG.29c6e880556df6d398a9a2@news.alt.net...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, check out what Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. said:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jenn"<n...@em.ail> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:jjjbf4$k9a$3@dont-email.me...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/11/2012 5:39 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [trim]
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And all of them are probably grotesque!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His daughter is quite beautiful!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yah, I hear that all the time. Every parent thinks >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kids are the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most beautiful in the whole world even if they are >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grotesque to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everybody
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How come you don't have any kids, Gweggie?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> None of your beeswax!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Because every once in a while...karma plays out for the >> >>>>>>>>>>>> benefit of
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> all mankind.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <nods>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Seems I asked you a while back if you had kids, snu ... and >> >>>>>>>>>>> got no
>> >>>>>>>>>>> answer.
>> >>>>>>>>>> The snuwolf has cubs!
>> >>>>>>>>> Idiots...what kind of person would bring a child into such a >> >>>>>>>>> fucked up
>> >>>>>>>>> world as this? Humans should have stopped breeding when the >> >>>>>>>>> Earths
>> >>>>>>>>> population hit 1 billion.
>> >>>>>>>>> Only selfish or ignorant people are still pumping out sprogs.
>> >>>>>>>>> www.zpg.org >> >>>>>>>>> (zero population growth)
>> >>>>>>>> Breeding?
>> >>>>>>> He's talking about sex, Jenn.
>> >>>>>> ya think? lol
>> >>>>> I'm pretty sure. Speaking of sex, did you read Greg's views on >> >>>>> getting
>> >>>>> women pregnant and shirking all responsibility for the kids? I >> >>>>> told you
>> >>>>> he was "special"!
>> >>>> You mean the hippy free love and sex thing? It was a different >> >>>> world
>> >>>> back then.
>> >>> Yes it was. Apparently if a woman practiced "free love," she was a >> >>> slut
>> >>> and it was her responsibility to take care of any kids if she got
>> >>> pregnant. Greg feels that he would have no responsibility for any >> >>> form
>> >>> of support because it was her fault for not using birth control, so >> >>> he
>> >>> was free to just walk away.
>> >> well.. I kind of agree with that assessment of women who do that >> >> sort of
>> >> thing ... BUT, the men who make them sluts are just as bad, imo... >> >> man
>> >> sluts? Women should know better than to think they can play and >> >> not
>> >> have to pay the consequences.
>> > You're starting to sound a lot like one of Greg's many socks, Jenn.
>> I don't even know Greg .. just chatted with him a few times like you.
>> If women are going to give *it* away to just every man they meet, then
>> why shouldn't they be responsible their actions? Just seems logical to >> me.
> Both should be responsible for the consequences. Just curious... as a
> woman, do you find it insulting that women who have sex with a lot of > men
> are referred to as whores, while men who have sex with a lot of women > are
> called "Playas"?
Both should be responsible for the consequences of a woman unilaterally giving it away?
And you call me dumb? Bwahhahahahah. Jenn is 100% correct and you are totally wrong. You've been brainwashed by the liberal "it takes a village" mentality. You don't see that an individual has certain individual responsibilities and should accept the consequences of his or her actions.
Look at it this way. You decide, all by yourself, that you'd like to eat 10,000 calories a day. And, you want it to be a quality experience so you pick the finest restaurant and eat and drink there to the tune of 10,000 calories a day. Nine month's later you weight 500 pounds. Are you seriously going to claim it's half the restaurants responsibility for your obesity? Are you going to say they provided the food so the obesity is half their fault so they should pay your medical bills?
> nellie never argues for logic, order, right, or justice. he never
> advocates what it good for society as a whole. his practice is to decide
> how he wants things to be for his own benefit, and rationalize why that
> is the way it should be.
"nellie" always argues using logic and conservative principles. What is good for society is often bad for an individual. Society places itself at the top and places the individual somewhere underneath. Conservatives like myself live by certain moral and ethical guidelines. These rules or guidlines mean something to us. They are a framework in which we live our lives. We try out best not to stray outside the framework. Individual worth is one of the primary steel girders in this framework. We also understand that individual worth means individual steadfastness. We aren't a wishy washy bunch.
You liberals, on the other hand, embrace a mishmash of contradictory rules and guidelines that are more often than not at odds. You are unruly, wishy washy and you put feelings ahead of principles. If some principle you've believed in most of your life makes you feel badly about something you then abandon that principle so you can feel good about yourselves.
This is why you are incapable of winning any debate. You lack the solid footing it takes to prevail in the arena of ideas because your ideas are at odds with one another. Get a freaking clue and just STFU because the more you run your mouths the more you end up exposing the fact that your ideology is unsupportable outside the realm of illogical feelings.
> > nellie never argues for logic, order, right, or justice. he never
> > advocates what it good for society as a whole. his practice is to decide
> > how he wants things to be for his own benefit, and rationalize why that
> > is the way it should be.
[...]
> Conservatives like myself live by certain moral and ethical guidelines. > These rules or guidlines mean something to us.
"US"? Greg, no card-carrying conservative would ever associate himself with your wacky ideas. Now go empty your shit bucket. It's starting to stink.
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> And all of them are probably grotesque!
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > His daughter is quite beautiful!
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Yah, I hear that all the time. Every parent
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> thinks their
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> own
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> kids
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> are
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> the
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> most beautiful in the whole world even if they
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> are grotesque
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> to
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> everybody
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> else.
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> How come you don't have any kids, Gweggie?
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> None of your beeswax!
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Because every once in a while...karma plays out for
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the benefit
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> all
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> mankind.
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <nods>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> > If true, t'would definitely be a boon.
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> I have some "wild oat" kids and probably even some
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> grandchildren
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> by
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> now.
>>>> >> >> >> >> > Sort of like a deadbeat dad?
>>>> >> >> >> >> Wrong! A deadbeat dad is a man who got married and
>>>> >> >> >> >> knocked up his
>>>> >> >> >> >> wife
>>>> >> >> >> >> then ran out on his obligations. In my case, the women
>>>> >> >> >> >> were horny
>>>> >> >> >> >> 1960's
>>>> >> >> >> >> hippies who just wanted to copulate for fun and they had
>>>> >> >> >> >> no intentions
>>>> >> >> >> >> of
>>>> >> >> >> >> getting married. If and when sluts like these get
>>>> >> >> >> >> pregnant the child
>>>> >> >> >> >> is
>>>> >> >> >> >> entirely their responsibility, theirs to raise and
>>>> >> >> >> >> support. I sure
>>>> >> >> >> >> didn't
>>>> >> >> >> >> MAKE them promiscuous. They were in the vanguard of the
>>>> >> >> >> >> liberated
>>>> >> >> >> >> women.
>>>> >> >> >> >> Odd isn't it how their being liberated forced them to
>>>> >> >> >> >> take twenty
>>>> >> >> >> >> or
>>>> >> >> >> >> so
>>>> >> >> >> >> of
>>>> >> >> >> >> the best years of their lives to raise a child or
>>>> >> >> >> >> children all by
>>>> >> >> >> >> their
>>>> >> >> >> >> liberated selves. Serves 'em right, I say.
>>>> >> >> >> > Wow.
>>>> >> >> >> > Just wow...
>>>> >> >> >> Yup, the logic cannot be faulted! A simpler way to state it
>>>> >> >> >> would be:
>>>> >> >> >> They
>>>> >> >> >> made their own beds so they can lie in them.
>>>> >> >> >> Liberals generally have to learn the hard way the belief
>>>> >> >> >> that they
>>>> >> >> >> aren't
>>>> >> >> >> responsible for anything and that anything difficult or bad
>>>> >> >> >> that happens
>>>> >> >> >> to them is just bad luck is a liberal lie.
>>>> >> >> > So if you knocked some girl up because you BOTH made the
>>>> >> >> > decision to
>>>> >> >> > have
>>>> >> >> > sex, it's her job to raise the kids solely at her expense,
>>>> >> >> > and you just
>>>> >> >> > walk away with absolutely NO responsibility whatsoever? What
>>>> >> >> > a fuckhead.
>>>> >> >> That's where you're delusional. Women are the sole decision
>>>> >> >> makers when
>>>> >> >> it
>>>> >> >> comes to copulation. They either want it and allow it or they
>>>> >> >> don't want
>>>> >> >> it and don't allow it. (not talking about instances of rape
>>>> >> >> here)
>>>> >> >> If women allow copulation and they don't use birth control, any
>>>> >> >> pregnancy
>>>> >> >> is entirely their own fault and their sole responsibility. Your
>>>> >> >> logic
>>>> >> >> is
>>>> >> >> flawed. Using your logic I could say food is equally
>>>> >> >> responsible as Ragnar
>>>> >> >> is for Ragnar's obesity.
>>>> >> > Using your own argument, the same would apply to a married
>>>> >> > couple if the
>>>> >> > man decided to walk away. The courts and Child Protective
>>>> >> > Services say
>>>> >> > otherwise in either case. Your own conscience should say
>>>> >> > otherwise. This is what I don't get about you,
>>>> >> > Greg/Neal/Whatever.
>>>> >> > You're obviously
>>>> >> > intelligent and educated, but you have some very whacked-out
>>>> >> > ideas. I
>>>> >> > would think you'd know better.
>>>> >> What you call 'whacked out' ideas are anything but as they are
>>>> >> based upon
>>>> >> the dictates of logic. It's a real shame that logic is no longer
>>>> >> taught in
>>>> >> the liberal public educational system below college level. The
>>>> >> lack of logic is responsible for most, if not all, the idiocy that
>>>> >> surrounds us in
>>>> >> this day and age. Logic has been replaced by politically correct
>>>> >> thinking
>>>> >> which is but another term for * institutionalized insanity*.
>>>> > "Logically," do you think it's in society's best interest to allow
>>>> > children to be born into this world without the financial support
>>>> > of both
>>>> > parents who brought them into the world in the first place? Do you
>>>> > think
>>>> > that's beneficial to the child? If he's brought up in poverty and
>>>> > under-
>>>> > educated because of this lack of support, do you think that
>>>> > benefits society?
>>>> Another straw man argument! You are proficient at building annexes
>>>> and then asking for me to defend or deny the annex. Beneficial to
>>>> society or benefit to the child has NOTHING to do with 100%
>>>> responsibility for what one does with one's body and the consequences
>>>> of one's actions respecting that body. Societal laws, more often than
>>>> not, purposely degrade the very idea of individual responsibility.
>>>> Society IS anti-individual, after all.
>>> Public policy in regards to the care and feeding of children is in
>>> everyone's best interest, and is meant for people like you who think
>>> they can hop from hole to hole like a
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:23:10 -0400, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
> "Checkmate" <LunaticFri...@The.Edge> wrote in message
> news:MPG.29c9d07d3d8881ac98aa34@news.alt.net...
>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts
>> by Checkmate!
>> First, check out what Jenn said:
>>> On 3/13/2012 11:33 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>> > posts by
>>> > Checkmate!
>>> > First, check out what Jenn said:
>>> >> On 3/13/2012 12:41 AM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> >>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>> >>> posts by
>>> >>> Checkmate!
>>> >>> First, check out what Jenn said:
>>> >>>> On 3/12/2012 11:19 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> >>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>> >>>>> posts by
>>> >>>>> Checkmate!
>>> >>>>> First, check out what Jenn said:
>>> >>>>>> On 3/12/2012 11:01 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>> >>>>>>> reading posts by
>>> >>>>>>> Checkmate!
>>> >>>>>>> First, check out what Jenn said:
>>> >>>>>>>> §ñühwö£f wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>> Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Jenn"<m...@noe.mail.com> wrote in message
>>> >>>>>>>>>> news:jjl4pd$dgc$1@dont-email.me...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> §nühw?£f wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Checkmate"<LunaticFri...@The.Edge> wrote in message
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:MPG.29c6e880556df6d398a9a2@news.alt.net...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, check out what Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. said:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jenn"<n...@em.ail> wrote in message
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:jjjbf4$k9a$3@dont-email.me...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/11/2012 5:39 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [trim]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And all of them are probably grotesque!
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His daughter is quite beautiful!
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yah, I hear that all the time. Every parent thinks
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kids are the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most beautiful in the whole world even if they are
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grotesque to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everybody
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How come you don't have any kids, Gweggie?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> None of your beeswax!
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Because every once in a while...karma plays out for the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> benefit of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> all mankind.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <nods>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Seems I asked you a while back if you had kids, snu ...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and got no
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> answer.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> The snuwolf has cubs!
>>> >>>>>>>>> Idiots...what kind of person would bring a child into such a
>>> >>>>>>>>> fucked up
>>> >>>>>>>>> world as this? Humans should have stopped breeding when the
>>> >>>>>>>>> Earths
>>> >>>>>>>>> population hit 1 billion.
>>> >>>>>>>>> Only selfish or ignorant people are still pumping out
>>> >>>>>>>>> sprogs.
>>> >>>>>>>>> www.zpg.org >>> >>>>>>>>> (zero population growth)
>>> >>>>>>>> Breeding?
>>> >>>>>>> He's talking about sex, Jenn.
>>> >>>>>> ya think? lol
>>> >>>>> I'm pretty sure. Speaking of sex, did you read Greg's views on
>>> >>>>> getting
>>> >>>>> women pregnant and shirking all responsibility for the kids? I
>>> >>>>> told you
>>> >>>>> he was "special"!
>>> >>>> You mean the hippy free love and sex thing? It was a different
>>> >>>> world
>>> >>>> back then.
>>> >>> Yes it was. Apparently if a woman practiced "free love," she was
>>> >>> a slut
>>> >>> and it was her responsibility to take care of any kids if she got
>>> >>> pregnant. Greg feels that he would have no responsibility for any
>>> >>> form
>>> >>> of support because it was her fault for not using birth control,
>>> >>> so he
>>> >>> was free to just walk away.
>>> >> well.. I kind of agree with that assessment of women who do that
>>> >> sort of
>>> >> thing ... BUT, the men who make them sluts are just as bad, imo...
>>> >> man
>>> >> sluts? Women should know better than to think they can play and
>>> >> not
>>> >> have to pay the consequences.
>>> > You're starting to sound a lot like one of Greg's many socks, Jenn.
>>> I don't even know Greg .. just chatted with him a few times like you.
>>> If women are going to give *it* away to just every man they meet, then
>>> why shouldn't they be responsible their actions? Just seems logical
>>> to me.
>> Both should be responsible for the consequences. Just curious... as a
>> woman, do you find it insulting that women who have sex with a lot of
>> men
>> are referred to as whores, while men who have sex with a lot of women
>> are
>> called "Playas"?
> Both should be responsible for the consequences of a woman unilaterally
> giving it away?
> And you call me dumb? Bwahhahahahah. Jenn is 100% correct and you are
> totally wrong. You've been brainwashed by the liberal "it takes a
> village" mentality. You don't see that an individual has certain
> individual responsibilities and should accept the consequences of his or
> her actions.
> Look at it this way. You decide, all by yourself, that you'd like to eat
> 10,000 calories a day. And, you want it to be a quality experience so
> you pick the finest restaurant and eat and drink there to the tune of
> 10,000 calories a day. Nine month's later you weight 500 pounds. Are you
> seriously going to claim it's half the restaurants responsibility for
> your obesity? Are you going to say they provided the food so the obesity
> is half their fault so they should pay your medical bills?
> Freaking lunatic moron!
One doesn't *eat* sperm. If YOU don't want to have kids, keep your sperm to yourself.
>>>> You're starting to sound a lot like one of Greg's many socks, Jenn.
>>> Its an actual separate being...they just drink the same wingnut
>>> k00l- aid...
>>> <nods>
>> ... which really means .. I have a mind of my own not controlled by
>> the status quo at large and I'm fully capable of coming to an
>> informed conclusion on my own AND have no need for government or
>> anyone else to do any thinking for me since I'm fully capable of
>> doing so myself.
> I think I'm in LOVE!! We need more Jenn's around here just to
> counterbalance the liberals dullards and drones like Shiny, Pandora,
> Rhonda, and Lardy Veteran.
haha .. there are a lot of liberals, too, who think they are all that!! {points to snuwolf and aardvark}
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:23:10 -0400, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
>> "Checkmate" <LunaticFri...@The.Edge> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.29c9d07d3d8881ac98aa34@news.alt.net...
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts
>>> by Checkmate!
>>> First, check out what Jenn said:
>>>> On 3/13/2012 11:33 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>> > posts by
>>>> > Checkmate!
>>>> > First, check out what Jenn said:
>>>> >> On 3/13/2012 12:41 AM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>> >>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>> >>> posts by
>>>> >>> Checkmate!
>>>> >>> First, check out what Jenn said:
>>>> >>>> On 3/12/2012 11:19 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>> >>>>> posts by
>>>> >>>>> Checkmate!
>>>> >>>>> First, check out what Jenn said:
>>>> >>>>>> On 3/12/2012 11:01 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>> >>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>> >>>>>>> Checkmate!
>>>> >>>>>>> First, check out what Jenn said:
>>>> >>>>>>>> §ñühwö£f wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Jenn"<m...@noe.mail.com> wrote in message
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> news:jjl4pd$dgc$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> §nühw?£f wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Checkmate"<LunaticFri...@The.Edge> wrote in >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:MPG.29c6e880556df6d398a9a2@news.alt.net...
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, check out what Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. said:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jenn"<n...@em.ail> wrote in message
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:jjjbf4$k9a$3@dont-email.me...
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/11/2012 5:39 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [trim]
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And all of them are probably grotesque!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His daughter is quite beautiful!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yah, I hear that all the time. Every parent thinks
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kids are the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most beautiful in the whole world even if they are
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grotesque to
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everybody
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How come you don't have any kids, Gweggie?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> None of your beeswax!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Because every once in a while...karma plays out for the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> benefit of
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> all mankind.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <nods>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Seems I asked you a while back if you had kids, snu ...
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and got no
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> answer.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The snuwolf has cubs!
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Idiots...what kind of person would bring a child into such >>>> >>>>>>>>> a
>>>> >>>>>>>>> fucked up
>>>> >>>>>>>>> world as this? Humans should have stopped breeding when the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Earths
>>>> >>>>>>>>> population hit 1 billion.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Only selfish or ignorant people are still pumping out
>>>> >>>>>>>>> sprogs.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> www.zpg.org >>>> >>>>>>>>> (zero population growth)
>>>> >>>>>>>> Breeding?
>>>> >>>>>>> He's talking about sex, Jenn.
>>>> >>>>>> ya think? lol
>>>> >>>>> I'm pretty sure. Speaking of sex, did you read Greg's views on
>>>> >>>>> getting
>>>> >>>>> women pregnant and shirking all responsibility for the kids? I
>>>> >>>>> told you
>>>> >>>>> he was "special"!
>>>> >>>> You mean the hippy free love and sex thing? It was a different
>>>> >>>> world
>>>> >>>> back then.
>>>> >>> Yes it was. Apparently if a woman practiced "free love," she was
>>>> >>> a slut
>>>> >>> and it was her responsibility to take care of any kids if she got
>>>> >>> pregnant. Greg feels that he would have no responsibility for >>>> >>> any
>>>> >>> form
>>>> >>> of support because it was her fault for not using birth control,
>>>> >>> so he
>>>> >>> was free to just walk away.
>>>> >> well.. I kind of agree with that assessment of women who do that
>>>> >> sort of
>>>> >> thing ... BUT, the men who make them sluts are just as bad, imo...
>>>> >> man
>>>> >> sluts? Women should know better than to think they can play and
>>>> >> not
>>>> >> have to pay the consequences.
>>>> > You're starting to sound a lot like one of Greg's many socks, Jenn.
>>>> I don't even know Greg .. just chatted with him a few times like you.
>>>> If women are going to give *it* away to just every man they meet, >>>> then
>>>> why shouldn't they be responsible their actions? Just seems logical
>>>> to me.
>>> Both should be responsible for the consequences. Just curious... as a
>>> woman, do you find it insulting that women who have sex with a lot of
>>> men
>>> are referred to as whores, while men who have sex with a lot of women
>>> are
>>> called "Playas"?
>> Both should be responsible for the consequences of a woman unilaterally
>> giving it away?
>> And you call me dumb? Bwahhahahahah. Jenn is 100% correct and you are
>> totally wrong. You've been brainwashed by the liberal "it takes a
>> village" mentality. You don't see that an individual has certain
>> individual responsibilities and should accept the consequences of his >> or
>> her actions.
>> Look at it this way. You decide, all by yourself, that you'd like to >> eat
>> 10,000 calories a day. And, you want it to be a quality experience so
>> you pick the finest restaurant and eat and drink there to the tune of
>> 10,000 calories a day. Nine month's later you weight 500 pounds. Are >> you
>> seriously going to claim it's half the restaurants responsibility for
>> your obesity? Are you going to say they provided the food so the >> obesity
>> is half their fault so they should pay your medical bills?
>> Freaking lunatic moron!
> One doesn't *eat* sperm. If YOU don't want to have kids, keep your > sperm
> to yourself.
Shiny swallows! You're apparently an old prude. I pity your husband's bleak sex life.
But, all kidding aside, the lack of logic you display is just appalling. Sperm isn't the point. The point is what one *chooses*, of one's own volition, to do with one's body is one's sole responsibility. If your choice has consequences then be an adult and assume the responsibility for the consequences.
If a man chooses to eat his way up to 500 pounds, he's got nobody but himself to place the responsibility on. If a woman chooses to copulate with a fertile man she's responsible for becoming pregnant. Her body. Her choice. Her consequences. Her responsibility. Perhaps men should all start viewing women for what they are? Dumb bimbos who are too stupid to take responsibility for their actions? I don't think so. Women are way too conniving. A hutch in which to trammel some wild thing?
You dazed and confused liberals just jump through hoops in a failed attempt to not assume the responsibility for your actions. You are ALWAYS just unwitting victims who just have bad luck or some such. Yah right!
>>> "Checkmate" <LunaticFri...@The.Edge> wrote in message
>>> Both should be responsible for the consequences of a woman
>>> unilaterally giving it away?
>>> And you call me dumb? Bwahhahahahah. Jenn is 100% correct and you
>>> are totally wrong. You've been brainwashed by the liberal "it takes
>>> a village" mentality. You don't see that an individual has certain
>>> individual responsibilities and should accept the consequences of
>>> his or
>>> her actions.
>>> Look at it this way. You decide, all by yourself, that you'd like to
>>> eat
>>> 10,000 calories a day. And, you want it to be a quality experience
>>> so you pick the finest restaurant and eat and drink there to the
>>> tune of 10,000 calories a day. Nine month's later you weight 500
>>> pounds. Are you
>>> seriously going to claim it's half the restaurants responsibility
>>> for your obesity? Are you going to say they provided the food so the
>>> obesity
>>> is half their fault so they should pay your medical bills?
>>> Freaking lunatic moron!
>> One doesn't *eat* sperm. If YOU don't want to have kids, keep your
>> sperm
>> to yourself.
<snip>
> But, all kidding aside, the lack of logic you display is just
> appalling. Sperm isn't the point. The point is what one *chooses*, of
> one's own volition, to do with one's body is one's sole
> responsibility. If your choice has consequences then be an adult and
> assume the responsibility for the consequences.
I agree. Both parties having made the choice should bear the consequences and responsibility.
> If a man chooses to eat his way up to 500 pounds, he's got nobody but
> himself to place the responsibility on. If a woman chooses to copulate
> with a fertile man she's responsible for becoming pregnant. Her body.
I agree to a point.
> Her choice. Her consequences. Her responsibility.
The product of that union is made up of the DNA of 2 people and as a product of 2 people becomes the responsibility of those 2 people if that life is born. Both parties made the choice not just the woman, therefore, both should sustain the consequences, and both should be adult and assume that responsibility for the consequences.
> Perhaps men should
> all start viewing women for what they are? Dumb bimbos who are too
> stupid to take responsibility for their actions? I don't think so.
> Women are way too conniving. A hutch in which to trammel some wild
> thing?
Many women ARE way to conniving .. others cringe at the thought that their own gender can do such things, as I'm sure men feel the same way about representatives of their own gender.
> Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
>> "Checkmate" <LunaticFri...@The.Edge> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.29c9d07d3d8881ac98aa34@news.alt.net...
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>> posts by Checkmate!
>>> First, check out what Jenn said:
>>>> I don't even know Greg .. just chatted with him a few times like
>>>> you. If women are going to give it away to just every man they
>>>> meet, then why shouldn't they be responsible their actions? Just
>>>> seems logical to me.
>>> Both should be responsible for the consequences. Just curious... as
>>> a woman, do you find it insulting that women who have sex with a lot
>>> of men
>>> are referred to as whores, while men who have sex with a lot of women
>>> are
>>> called "Playas"?
>> Both should be responsible for the consequences of a woman
>> unilaterally giving it away?
>> And you call me dumb? Bwahhahahahah. Jenn is 100% correct and you are
>> totally wrong. You've been brainwashed by the liberal "it takes a
>> village" mentality. You don't see that an individual has certain
>> individual responsibilities and should accept the consequences of his
>> or her actions.
>> Look at it this way. You decide, all by yourself, that you'd like to
>> eat 10,000 calories a day. And, you want it to be a quality
>> experience so you pick the finest restaurant and eat and drink there
>> to the tune of 10,000 calories a day. Nine month's later you weight
>> 500 pounds. Are you seriously going to claim it's half the
>> restaurants responsibility for your obesity? Are you going to say
>> they provided the food so the obesity is half their fault so they
>> should pay your medical bills?
>> Freaking lunatic moron!
> That's one of my pet peeves too.
> It's ridiculous that people want to blame the food chains or
> restaurants for them getting fat. It's just crazy.
> Additionally, if women play and get pregnant .. then
> they whine about how it's all the mans fault.... she had to say YES.. ya
> know. Mind you .. I believe men should be using birth control and if > they
> don't... they also played, so they should also pay for the consequences > of
> their actions, too.
Not without a marriage contract . . .
Only women get pregnant. Only women give birth. Only women can use birth control of various types. Men can't control births because they don't control a woman's body. Women can demand men use meds or physical barriers but none of these are 100% safe. Even a condom is really a woman's form of birth control because it works (or fails) in her vagina. It is often the woman who hands the condom to the man and says, "Put this on, please."
If a woman uses birth control or causes the man to use a condom she knows it's not 100%. Therefore, the woman should assume the responsibility for any birth control failure. If a woman truly doesn't want to become pregnant then copulate with one or more of the many men who've had vasectomies. Better yet, abstain completely until such time she wishes to get married and become pregnant.
A woman has the right to demand a man use a condom or hit the road. But the man shouldn't be held responsible for any pregnancy that might result if the prophylaxis proves ineffective. It's not the man's body that becomes pregnant. It's the woman's body, the woman's risk she takes and as long as women claim it's their body to do with as they will then it's also her taking the risk and it's her body to assume full responsibility for the consequences of doing with it as she will.
>>>> "Checkmate" <LunaticFri...@The.Edge> wrote in message
>>>> Both should be responsible for the consequences of a woman
>>>> unilaterally giving it away?
>>>> And you call me dumb? Bwahhahahahah. Jenn is 100% correct and you
>>>> are totally wrong. You've been brainwashed by the liberal "it takes
>>>> a village" mentality. You don't see that an individual has certain
>>>> individual responsibilities and should accept the consequences of
>>>> his or
>>>> her actions.
>>>> Look at it this way. You decide, all by yourself, that you'd like to
>>>> eat
>>>> 10,000 calories a day. And, you want it to be a quality experience
>>>> so you pick the finest restaurant and eat and drink there to the
>>>> tune of 10,000 calories a day. Nine month's later you weight 500
>>>> pounds. Are you
>>>> seriously going to claim it's half the restaurants responsibility
>>>> for your obesity? Are you going to say they provided the food so the
>>>> obesity
>>>> is half their fault so they should pay your medical bills?
>>>> Freaking lunatic moron!
>>> One doesn't *eat* sperm. If YOU don't want to have kids, keep your
>>> sperm
>>> to yourself.
> <snip>
>> But, all kidding aside, the lack of logic you display is just
>> appalling. Sperm isn't the point. The point is what one *chooses*, of
>> one's own volition, to do with one's body is one's sole
>> responsibility. If your choice has consequences then be an adult and
>> assume the responsibility for the consequences.
> I agree. Both parties having made the choice should bear the > consequences and responsibility.
>> If a man chooses to eat his way up to 500 pounds, he's got nobody but
>> himself to place the responsibility on. If a woman chooses to copulate
>> with a fertile man she's responsible for becoming pregnant. Her body.
> I agree to a point.
>> Her choice. Her consequences. Her responsibility.
> The product of that union is made up of the DNA of 2 people and as a > product of 2 people becomes the responsibility of those 2 people if that > life is born. Both parties made the choice not just the woman, > therefore, both should sustain the consequences, and both should be > adult and assume that responsibility for the consequences.
And, that's where we disagree. If a woman decides to abort an unwanted pregnancy, that 1/2 of the man's DNA is also aborted and the man has NOTHING whatsoever to say about it. The woman will say, "It's my body to do with as I will." She never says, "Since it's half your DNA in here you should get 50% say." Why do women think they can have it both ways, Jenn?
> >>> "Checkmate" <LunaticFri...@The.Edge> wrote in message
> >>> Both should be responsible for the consequences of a woman
> >>> unilaterally giving it away?
> >>> And you call me dumb? Bwahhahahahah. Jenn is 100% correct and you
> >>> are totally wrong. You've been brainwashed by the liberal "it takes
> >>> a village" mentality. You don't see that an individual has certain
> >>> individual responsibilities and should accept the consequences of
> >>> his or
> >>> her actions.
> >>> Look at it this way. You decide, all by yourself, that you'd like to
> >>> eat
> >>> 10,000 calories a day. And, you want it to be a quality experience
> >>> so you pick the finest restaurant and eat and drink there to the
> >>> tune of 10,000 calories a day. Nine month's later you weight 500
> >>> pounds. Are you
> >>> seriously going to claim it's half the restaurants responsibility
> >>> for your obesity? Are you going to say they provided the food so the
> >>> obesity
> >>> is half their fault so they should pay your medical bills?
> >>> Freaking lunatic moron!
> >> One doesn't *eat* sperm. If YOU don't want to have kids, keep your
> >> sperm
> >> to yourself.
> <snip>
> > But, all kidding aside, the lack of logic you display is just
> > appalling. Sperm isn't the point. The point is what one *chooses*, of
> > one's own volition, to do with one's body is one's sole
> > responsibility. If your choice has consequences then be an adult and
> > assume the responsibility for the consequences.
> I agree. Both parties having made the choice should bear the consequences > and responsibility.
> > If a man chooses to eat his way up to 500 pounds, he's got nobody but
> > himself to place the responsibility on. If a woman chooses to copulate
> > with a fertile man she's responsible for becoming pregnant. Her body.
> I agree to a point.
> > Her choice. Her consequences. Her responsibility.
> The product of that union is made up of the DNA of 2 people and as a product > of 2 people becomes the responsibility of those 2 people if that life is > born. Both parties made the choice not just the woman, therefore, both > should sustain the consequences, and both should be adult and assume that > responsibility for the consequences.
Oh, good. I was starting to worry about you, but there couldn't possibly be another human being in the world who thinks exactly like our Gweggie.
> > Perhaps men should
> > all start viewing women for what they are? Dumb bimbos who are too
> > stupid to take responsibility for their actions? I don't think so.
> > Women are way too conniving. A hutch in which to trammel some wild
> > thing?
> Many women ARE way to conniving .. others cringe at the thought that their > own gender can do such things, as I'm sure men feel the same way about > representatives of their own gender.
> >>>> I don't even know Greg .. just chatted with him a few times like
> >>>> you. If women are going to give it away to just every man they
> >>>> meet, then why shouldn't they be responsible their actions? Just
> >>>> seems logical to me.
> >>> Both should be responsible for the consequences. Just curious... as
> >>> a woman, do you find it insulting that women who have sex with a lot
> >>> of men
> >>> are referred to as whores, while men who have sex with a lot of women
> >>> are
> >>> called "Playas"?
> >> Both should be responsible for the consequences of a woman
> >> unilaterally giving it away?
> >> And you call me dumb? Bwahhahahahah. Jenn is 100% correct and you are
> >> totally wrong. You've been brainwashed by the liberal "it takes a
> >> village" mentality. You don't see that an individual has certain
> >> individual responsibilities and should accept the consequences of his
> >> or her actions.
> >> Look at it this way. You decide, all by yourself, that you'd like to
> >> eat 10,000 calories a day. And, you want it to be a quality
> >> experience so you pick the finest restaurant and eat and drink there
> >> to the tune of 10,000 calories a day. Nine month's later you weight
> >> 500 pounds. Are you seriously going to claim it's half the
> >> restaurants responsibility for your obesity? Are you going to say
> >> they provided the food so the obesity is half their fault so they
> >> should pay your medical bills?
> >> Freaking lunatic moron!
> > That's one of my pet peeves too.
> > It's ridiculous that people want to blame the food chains or
> > restaurants for them getting fat. It's just crazy.
> > Additionally, if women play and get pregnant .. then
> > they whine about how it's all the mans fault.... she had to say YES.. ya
> > know. Mind you .. I believe men should be using birth control and if > > they
> > don't... they also played, so they should also pay for the consequences > > of
> > their actions, too.
> Only women get pregnant. Only women give birth. Only women can use birth > control of various types. Men can't control births because they don't > control a woman's body. Women can demand men use meds or physical barriers > but none of these are 100% safe. Even a condom is really a woman's form of > birth control because it works (or fails) in her vagina. It is often the > woman who hands the condom to the man and says, "Put this on, please."
> If a woman uses birth control or causes the man to use a condom she knows > it's not 100%. Therefore, the woman should assume the responsibility for > any birth control failure. If a woman truly doesn't want to become > pregnant then copulate with one or more of the many men who've had > vasectomies. Better yet, abstain completely until such time she wishes to > get married and become pregnant.
> A woman has the right to demand a man use a condom or hit the road. But > the man shouldn't be held responsible for any pregnancy that might result > if the prophylaxis proves ineffective. It's not the man's body that > becomes pregnant. It's the woman's body, the woman's risk she takes and as > long as women claim it's their body to do with as they will then it's also > her taking the risk and it's her body to assume full responsibility for > the consequences of doing with it as she will.
>> The product of that union is made up of the DNA of 2 people and as a >> product
>> of 2 people becomes the responsibility of those 2 people if that life >> is
>> born. Both parties made the choice not just the woman, therefore, both
>> should sustain the consequences, and both should be adult and assume >> that
>> responsibility for the consequences.
> Oh, good. I was starting to worry about you, but there couldn't > possibly
> be another human being in the world who thinks exactly like our Gweggie.
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!
> First, check out what Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. said:
>> "Jenn" <m...@noe.mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:jjqm8g$vu1$2@dont-email.me...
>> > Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
>> >> "Checkmate" <LunaticFri...@The.Edge> wrote in message
>> >> news:MPG.29c9d07d3d8881ac98aa34@news.alt.net...
>> >>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>> >>> posts by Checkmate!
>> >>> First, check out what Jenn said:
>> >>>> I don't even know Greg .. just chatted with him a few times like
>> >>>> you. If women are going to give it away to just every man they
>> >>>> meet, then why shouldn't they be responsible their actions? Just
>> >>>> seems logical to me.
>> >>> Both should be responsible for the consequences. Just curious... >> >>> as
>> >>> a woman, do you find it insulting that women who have sex with a >> >>> lot
>> >>> of men
>> >>> are referred to as whores, while men who have sex with a lot of >> >>> women
>> >>> are
>> >>> called "Playas"?
>> >> Both should be responsible for the consequences of a woman
>> >> unilaterally giving it away?
>> >> And you call me dumb? Bwahhahahahah. Jenn is 100% correct and you >> >> are
>> >> totally wrong. You've been brainwashed by the liberal "it takes a
>> >> village" mentality. You don't see that an individual has certain
>> >> individual responsibilities and should accept the consequences of >> >> his
>> >> or her actions.
>> >> Look at it this way. You decide, all by yourself, that you'd like to
>> >> eat 10,000 calories a day. And, you want it to be a quality
>> >> experience so you pick the finest restaurant and eat and drink there
>> >> to the tune of 10,000 calories a day. Nine month's later you weight
>> >> 500 pounds. Are you seriously going to claim it's half the
>> >> restaurants responsibility for your obesity? Are you going to say
>> >> they provided the food so the obesity is half their fault so they
>> >> should pay your medical bills?
>> >> Freaking lunatic moron!
>> > That's one of my pet peeves too.
>> > It's ridiculous that people want to blame the food chains or
>> > restaurants for them getting fat. It's just crazy.
>> > Additionally, if women play and get pregnant .. then
>> > they whine about how it's all the mans fault.... she had to say YES.. >> > ya
>> > know. Mind you .. I believe men should be using birth control and >> > if
>> > they
>> > don't... they also played, so they should also pay for the >> > consequences
>> > of
>> > their actions, too.
>> Not without a marriage contract . . .
> LOL! STOO-pud!
What would you know about it? You don't have to worry about your sperm in Ragnar's rectum getting him pregnant. LOL!
