Re: Harassment charge used against free speech
krp
"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>> Why do people continue to believe that using
>>>>>>>>>> anonymous remailers gives them a right
>>>>>>>>>> against being prosecuted for civil/criminal abuse?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Which criminal abuse laws specifically, grag?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Things like soliciting people to burn down somebody's house and
>>>>>>>> block the exits for everyone inside dies. Things like soliciting
>>>>>>>> the rape of your opponent's wife and children. Stuff like THAT,
>>>>>>>> Danny. You don't see that as harassment?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has someone been harassing you, kenny boy?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have they made threats like the ones you've just described?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Danny you can PRETEND you have not seen the posts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which posts?
>>>>
>>>> The ones you CLAIM (falsely) to have NEVER seen.
>>>
>>> I don't know which posts you're referring to, and I don't know where I
>>> would have read them.
>>
>> Convenient memory loss.
>
> No memory loss.
>
> I can't recall what I never have seen.
You see only what you want to see. Others have seen your buddy's posts
soliciting people to burn down MY house, and others soliciting the rape of
my wife.
krp
"whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 1, 3:30 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> >>>> Why do people continue to believe that using
> >>>> anonymous remailers gives them a right
> >>>> against being prosecuted for civil/criminal abuse?
>
> >>> Which criminal abuse laws specifically, grag?
>
> >> Things like soliciting people to burn down somebody's house and block
> >> the exits for everyone inside dies. Things like soliciting the rape of
> >> your opponent's wife and children. Stuff like THAT, Danny.
>
>
> Start with 20 U.S.C for starters. (Terroristic threats) THEN Little
> boy) Play with Florida Statute 784.048.
>
> "(d) "Cyberstalk" means to engage in a course of conduct to communicate,
> or
> to cause to be communicated, words, images, or language by or through the
> use of electronic mail or electronic communication, directed at a specific
> person, causing substantial emotional distress to that person and serving
> no
> legitimate purpose. "
>
> I am certain, Danny, that as an ATTORNEY AT LAW you will dispute the
> application of these LAWS in your EXPERT legal opinion.
MOE> So let me get this straight, You cyberstalk " Moore" and your doggie
MOE> Greg cyberstalks Kent Wills. Are you suggesting that both of you
MOE> should be prosecuted for cyberstalking?
Poor poor Davey Moore has the hate website and you accuse ME of stalking
HIM? Interesting thought process, Moe. Have *I* tried to solicit people to
burn down Davey's house? Rape HIS wife? Well that's be impossible since at
the moment HE doesn't have a wife. But you pal HAS done those things TO me.
Dan Sullivan
"krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4a4bacf1$0$31275$607e...@cv.net...
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>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why do people continue to believe that using
>>>>>>>>>>> anonymous remailers gives them a right
>>>>>>>>>>> against being prosecuted for civil/criminal abuse?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Which criminal abuse laws specifically, grag?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Things like soliciting people to burn down somebody's house and
>>>>>>>>> block the exits for everyone inside dies. Things like soliciting
>>>>>>>>> the rape of your opponent's wife and children. Stuff like THAT,
>>>>>>>>> Danny. You don't see that as harassment?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has someone been harassing you, kenny boy?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have they made threats like the ones you've just described?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Danny you can PRETEND you have not seen the posts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which posts?
>>>>>
>>>>> The ones you CLAIM (falsely) to have NEVER seen.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know which posts you're referring to, and I don't know where I
>>>> would have read them.
>>>
>>> Convenient memory loss.
>>
>> No memory loss.
>>
>> I can't recall what I never have seen.
>>
>
> You see only what you want to see.
I can't see the posts if you won't tell me where they are, kenny boy.
krp
Right in these newsgroups Danny. But your boyfriend put on the NO ARCHIVE
command so now you have an EXCUSE. However I replied to his bullshit with
FULL HEADERS so he can't hide that.
Dan Sullivan
You don't say!
And obviously you haven't.
> But your boyfriend put on the NO ARCHIVE command so now you have an
> EXCUSE.
I still don't know who you're referring to.
> However I replied to his bullshit with FULL HEADERS so he can't hide that.
You don't say!
krp
Memory loss from you again?
Dan Sullivan
You accused me of having memory loss earlier today and then admitted it was
"others" who saw what I didn't see.
And a number of times, even when asked, you've failed to post the
whereabouts of the posts you were referring to.
Obviously it's you, kenny boy, who are suffering from memory loss.
Why would anyone want to have you killed when it's so much fun watching you
make a monumental fool of yourself every day?
whitevamp
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
You are so OBSESSED with " Moore" you even claimed to look up his
frigging ANCESTRY. You are so hooked on " Moore" that you pretend you
have his service record and you claim he has done certain abusive acts
but don;t show any documents to prove your claims.
Hell, you even tried claiming some " Santeria priests" put a curse on
" Moore" and your sick imagination of what kind of curse you would
like " Moore" to suffer from is childish and curiously homoerotic.
Of what relevance is his ancestry to what you claim he's doing to
you? If this was just about the so-called " hate site", why bring
attention to his web site about you by your screeds against him day
after day? Why not just be quiet and let his so-called " hate" site
fade away? Instead you bring attention to his web site, ironically
enough.
> Interesting thought process, Moe. Have *I* tried to solicit people to
> burn down Davey's house?
You CLAIM he wrote that post. Where's your proof?
If you are sure he did this, then press charges against him. Unless
OC you know you were the one who posted it.
> Rape HIS wife?
You CLAIM he wrote that post. Where's your proof?
If you are sure he did this, then press charges against him. Unless
OC you know you were the one who posted it.
> Well that's be impossible since at
> the moment HE doesn't have a wife. But you pal HAS done those things TO me.
You CLAIM he wrote that post. Where's your proof?
If you are sure he did this, then press charges against him. Unless
OC you know you were the one who posted it.
Moe
Know your snakes--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
whitevamp
> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Yup. He DON"T say!
He could have just posted a link, but that isn't our fatty
fartbuckle's way, no siree!
whitevamp
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Simple Kennie. Post a Google URL of the thread.
Even a simpleton like your patsy Greg can do that. But you seem
incapable of doing it.
whitevamp
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Agreed.
I heard that one day Kennie went to a Florida beach and sat down and
some animal rights types mistook him for an albino manatee. They got a
closer look and realized a manatee has a better looking face than
Kennie does.
I also heard that while Kennie was floating in the water a Japanese
whaling boat came by being chased by a Greenpeace boat that mistook
Kennie for a white whale until the people in the Greenpeace boat
realized that floating mass of fat was technically a human. Then they
left him alone with the Japanese whale boat.
A great white shark swimming underneath Kennie was about to do its
killing prey rush but got a good whiff of how Kennie was polluting
the water around him and retched.
When Kennie put his belly to the bar the bar collapsed.
krp
MOE> I have no doubt now that you are mentally ill and have been so for
MOE> quite some time. Maybe even during your AF " service" years, which
MOE> would explain your transfer from regular to reserves.
Golly Moe, with your daddy being a 87 star General, I would have though
that you'd know that after one's enlistment in the regular Air Force
transfer to the reserves was AUTOMATIC. It is the way things work.
freedom
>On Jul 1, 3:56=A0pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
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>> On Jul 1, 3:30 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:4a4ab156$0$5907$607e...@cv.net...
>>
>> > >>>> Why do people continue to believe that using
>> > >>>> anonymous remailers gives them a right
>> > >>>> against being prosecuted for civil/criminal abuse?
>>
>> > >>> Which criminal abuse laws specifically, grag?
>>
ck
>> > >> the exits for everyone inside dies. Things like soliciting the rape=
of
>> > >> your opponent's wife and children. Stuff like THAT, Danny.
>>
>> > > Which specific criminal abuse law?
>>
>> > Start with 20 U.S.C for starters. (Terroristic threats) THEN Little
>> > boy) Play with Florida Statute 784.048.
>>
e,
>> > or
>> > to cause to be communicated, words, images, or language by or through =
the
>> > use of electronic mail or electronic communication, directed at a spec=
ific
>> > person, causing substantial emotional distress to that person and serv=
ing
>> > no
>> > legitimate purpose. "
>>
>> > I am certain, Danny, that as an ATTORNEY AT LAW you will dispute the
>> > application of these LAWS in your EXPERT legal opinion.
>>
ggie
>> MOE> Greg cyberstalks Kent Wills. Are you suggesting that both of you
>> MOE> should be prosecuted for cyberstalking?
>>
stalking
>> HIM?
>
> You are so OBSESSED with " Moore" you even claimed to look up his
>frigging ANCESTRY. You are so hooked on " Moore" that you pretend you
>have his service record
Both of which it's been proven that he couldn't get. In the case of the
fictional "adoption papers," such information would likely be kept in a
courthouse under lock and key. From my understanding, when such records
are sealed, even the birth parents and children can't access them unless
they have permission from the other party.
In cases like these, when Ken claims to have knowledge which he couldn't
possibly have, he again proves himself a liar without any outside help.
> and you claim he has done certain abusive acts
>but don;t show any documents to prove your claims.
>
> Hell, you even tried claiming some " Santeria priests" put a curse on
>" Moore" and your sick imagination of what kind of curse you would
>like " Moore" to suffer from is childish and curiously homoerotic.
Well, in Ken's defense, I DID have some extremely bad luck with my PGP
encryption shortly after he put the "curse" on me. I reinstalled
everything twice, created new keys, but nothing solved the problem. :)
>
> Of what relevance is his ancestry to what you claim he's doing to
>you? If this was just about the so-called " hate site", why bring
>attention to his web site about you by your screeds against him day
>after day? Why not just be quiet and let his so-called " hate" site
>fade away? Instead you bring attention to his web site, ironically
>enough.
He's had a number of different courses of action available to him regarding=
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com. He could pursue civil action, as he
claims to know where I live. He could also produce proof to back up any of=
hundreds of statements which I've challenged him on. Including the
"discharge papers" which he's claimed to have for a decade. (You know, the=
ones which identify me with two different middle names.) At one time, he
could have simply apologized and admitted his lies. His chosen course of
action was to do NOTHING, even though the site is now embedded in the
search engines, and is certain to be seen by anyone Googling him (as in, to=
research him prior to hiring him.) =20
By the way, he once vowed that http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com would be
down by January 1, 2001.
>
>
>> Interesting thought process, Moe. Have *I* tried to solicit people to
>> burn down Davey's house?
>
> You CLAIM he wrote that post. Where's your proof?
He'll be posting it "in 7 to 10 days."
>
> If you are sure he did this, then press charges against him. Unless
>OC you know you were the one who posted it.
>
>> Rape HIS wife?
>
> You CLAIM he wrote that post. Where's your proof?
>
> If you are sure he did this, then press charges against him. Unless
>OC you know you were the one who posted it.
>
>> Well that's be impossible since at
>> the moment HE doesn't have a wife.=20
Another example of Ken proving himself a liar, by claiming something which
he couldn't possibly know.
>But you pal HAS done those things TO me.
>
> You CLAIM he wrote that post. Where's your proof?
>
> If you are sure he did this, then press charges against him. Unless
>OC you know you were the one who posted it.
This is probably why he does nothing. A serious law enforcement
investigation would uncover the fact that he's forged in the past.
>Moe
>Know your snakes--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's=
Association or AN Y connection to them."
--Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie=
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde=
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves=
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
--Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
--Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
--Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to claim
that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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whitevamp
wrote:
(( Derisive snort)) If that's the best whatever Santeria priest
Kennie hired could do in terms of curses, Kennie must have gotten the
Wal-Mart clearance special version. So much for dreaded curses.
Sheesh!!
>
>
>
> > Of what relevance is his ancestry to what you claim he's doing to
> >you? If this was just about the so-called " hate site", why bring
> >attention to his web site about you by your screeds against him day
> >after day? Why not just be quiet and let his so-called " hate" site
> >fade away? Instead you bring attention to his web site, ironically
> >enough.
>
> He's had a number of different courses of action available to him regarding=
>
> http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com. He could pursue civil action, as he
> claims to know where I live. He could also produce proof to back up any of=
>
> hundreds of statements which I've challenged him on. Including the
> "discharge papers" which he's claimed to have for a decade. (You know, the=
>
> ones which identify me with two different middle names.) At one time, he
> could have simply apologized and admitted his lies. His chosen course of
> action was to do NOTHING, even though the site is now embedded in the
> search engines, and is certain to be seen by anyone Googling him (as in, to=
>
> research him prior to hiring him.) =20
Bingo. He yammers on and on but he never actually DOES anything in
the real world to resolve all of this and to actually back up his
claims. After two months of verbal battles with him, I can see how
much a habitual liar he is and all the other crap he does, including
his misogyny and his forged posts, only confirms my perception of him.
We aren't talking about a man of honor and integrity, muchless a man
of his word, here.
>
> By the way, he once vowed thathttp://www.aboutkenpangborn.comwould be
> down by January 1, 2001.
A vow? So he breaks his word also. No surprise there.
>
>
>
> >> Interesting thought process, Moe. Have *I* tried to solicit people to
> >> burn down Davey's house?
>
> > You CLAIM he wrote that post. Where's your proof?
>
> He'll be posting it "in 7 to 10 days."
Which century? :-D
>
>
>
> > If you are sure he did this, then press charges against him. Unless
> >OC you know you were the one who posted it.
>
> >> Rape HIS wife?
>
> > You CLAIM he wrote that post. Where's your proof?
>
> > If you are sure he did this, then press charges against him. Unless
> >OC you know you were the one who posted it.
>
> >> Well that's be impossible since at
> >> the moment HE doesn't have a wife.=20
>
> Another example of Ken proving himself a liar, by claiming something which
> he couldn't possibly know.
>
> >But you pal HAS done those things TO me.
>
> > You CLAIM he wrote that post. Where's your proof?
>
> > If you are sure he did this, then press charges against him. Unless
> >OC you know you were the one who posted it.
>
> This is probably why he does nothing. A serious law enforcement
> investigation would uncover the fact that he's forged in the past.
Bingo. And if he did file a complaint, knowing damn well he forged
the threats, and law enforcement had the resources and someone who
knows what he or she is doing can show he was the originator of the
threats,he could be charged with filing a false police report, among
other things no doubt.
Moe
Know your snakes--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
> >Moe
> >Know your snakes---http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
> http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
> The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
> criminals
>
> "[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's=
>
> Association or AN Y connection to them."
> --Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
> with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie=
>
> is disproved here:http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/expert...
>
> x.shtml
>
> "Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves=
>
> that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
> --Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
> <jOp3l.292$Es4....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
krp
On Jul 2, 2:14 am, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Kennie I can show where you used very graphic words about a
> > jackhammer on someone's head.
>
> http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/488608.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=B2A...
>
> > You bullshited about it being a figure
> > of speech but it was clearly a image full
> > of violence aimed at a woman.
>
> Wouldn't you have to prove you're a woman?
MOE> His jackhammer comment wasn't aimed at me greg.
Who was it "aimed" at Moe?????
MOE> The fact still remains your master Kennie made TWO posts about
violence to the head
MOE> of another poster. The gender of the person he was attacking is of no
MOE> consequence. It is the fact that he made the threats in the first
MOE> place.
Seems that the person I made the comment to did NOT take it as the
threat that YOU do! You seem to NEED to construe things that way. Actually
it was directed that the person is "hard headed" which she admits herself.
Oh Moe the GENDER has EVERYTHING to do with iot for a NUT CASE like YOU!
Needless to say, YOU are wrapped pretty tight on gender issues.
MOE> I have a hard time believing thatyou are so dumb you don't see the
obvious about Kenneth Pangborn.
What's so obvious? Because I disagree with YOUR extremist BULLSHIT -
that I hate women? You can never accept it as just disagreement with your
polemics.
MOE> I think you know that Kennie fabricates his claims about " Moore",
and
MOE> I think you know that the " easy way to make money" post was Kennie
MOE> trying to frame " Moore". You've seen " Moore's posts long enough to
MOE> know that he doesn't make such sloppily obvious threats. But Kennie
MOE>does.
Feminazis are such simple minded creatures. IF you had even a small
amount of brain you would have KNOWN that the original of that "make money"
post were places in newsgroups that I cannot read or post DIRECTLY to. I can
ONLY corsspost there. It was deliberately placed where the COWARD believe I
would never see it or somebody would have to show it to me. You are too
stupid to know that Moore has a 10 year HISTORY of doint that kind of thing.
But you are so WHACKED in the head you can't see what is before you.
READ and ENJOY
FROM A WEBSITE NOR MINE
"Introduction - Who David D. Moore is and who we are
The David D. Moore we are speaking of is an ex-Marine currently living in
the Chicago, Illinois area. He posts on a regular basis to
alt.child-support. Please click here for a list of his current and past
screen names. My name is Joe O'Connor and my associate's name is John
Reinhagen. We both are or have been moderately frequent posters to men's
rights/father's rights-related newsgroups. We've put together this web site
to showcase Moore's abusive behavior on the newsgroups we post to and on the
Internet in general.
A bit of history
About two years ago we witnessed a bizarre Usenet episode where an alleged
NOW rep calling herself "a...@infinity.net" started making ominous threats to
self-styled fathers-rights advocate David Moore (he was calling himself
"Jeff Johnson" back then) on several of those newsgroups and demanded that
he take down his web pages. There was just one little problem; a comparison
of the subject headers of "Johnson's" posts with those of "ara" showed that
they were coming from the same computer. We both concluded that "ara" was a
sock-puppet cooked up by Moore to get hits on his web-counter and told him
he wasn't going to get any sympathy from us. Moore was quite angry with our
judgement and accused me of betraying him. I suppose he felt that the
pro-father's rights stance that we shared exempted him from critical
scrutiny. A few days later, he lost his Worldnet account (I wonder why).
Moore insisted that he was innocent and blamed his sudden departure from
Worldnet on a cabal of NOW feminists (he posted this on Usenet); although an
independent investigation proved otherwise. I finally got sick of his lying
and exposed him on his pet newsgroup alt.child-support. He didn't take too
kindly to this and a few months later retaliated by taking an old post of
mine and forging in an anti-Semitic comment. Unfortunately for him the
forgery was traced back to his workplace at Sara Lee and he lost his temp
job there. Again he was quite angry and made several posts that looked like
veiled threats of retaliation.
Ever since then, we have both had the displeasure of being treated to the
following:
a.. Repeated complaints to our ISPs.
b.. A mysterious anonymous remailer chorus that loves to post in Moore's
defense and seems excessively interested in his reputation and well-being.
c.. Virulent racist and ethnic forgeries under our screen names.
d.. Anonymous threats of violence.
e.. Anonymous posts begging for personal information about us.
Unfortunately, we're far from the only people who this has happened to, nor
do we claim to be his worst victims . It seems that whoever dares to speak
out against Moore's bizarre online behavior stands a good chance of getting
the same or worse directed against them. This is especially true for his
female 'marks'; Moore's ravings show a singular hatred of women.
About a year ago I put these pages at Geocities; it was taken down shortly
afterwards due to the sheer offensiveness of its content (Geocities didn't
seem to care that I wasn't the author of the crap that I was showcasing).
John generously offered to host the pages and and they've been here ever
since.
We'll be adding to this archive as time permits. Unfortunately keeping up
with Moore is a full-time occupation which neither of us really has time
for, so they will probably always be somewhat out of date.Please email me at
jmo...@snet.net or John at welcomerain.@savageoasis.fc.net if you have any
questions or concerns.
This page �1999 Joseph M. O'Connor and John Reinhagen."
whitevamp
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:cb7ccf87-6bc9-41be...@y17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 2, 2:14 am, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Kennie I can show where you used very graphic words about a
> > > jackhammer on someone's head.
>
> >http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/488608.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=B2A...
>
> > > You bullshited about it being a figure
> > > of speech but it was clearly a image full
> > > of violence aimed at a woman.
>
> > Wouldn't you have to prove you're a woman?
>
> MOE> His jackhammer comment wasn't aimed at me greg.
>
> Who was it "aimed" at Moe?????
You damn well know whom it was aimed at Kennie. You also know she is
currently dealing with some serious crap in her life and doesn' t
have time to deal with your garbage against her.
A graphic depiction of a jackhammer against a human head is an
obvious threat, no matter how you try to deny it to cover your fat
ass.
>
> MOE> The fact still remains your master Kennie made TWO posts about
> violence to the head
> MOE> of another poster. The gender of the person he was attacking is of no
> MOE> consequence. It is the fact that he made the threats in the first
> MOE> place.
>
> Seems that the person I made the comment to did NOT take it as the
> threat that YOU do!
She had more important things in her REAL LIFE to deal with than a
shit head online making a threat. Right now you are not important to
her to deal with filing criminal charges against you.
>You seem to NEED to construe things that way. Actually
> it was directed that the person is "hard headed" which she admits herself.
> Oh Moe the GENDER has EVERYTHING to do with iot for a NUT CASE like YOU!
> Needless to say, YOU are wrapped pretty tight on gender issues.
Threatening to apply a jackhammer against a human head is not a
gender issue. Its a threat of bodily harm issue.
>
> MOE> I have a hard time believing thatyou are so dumb you don't see the
> obvious about Kenneth Pangborn.
>
> What's so obvious? Because I disagree with YOUR extremist BULLSHIT -
> that I hate women? You can never accept it as just disagreement with your
> polemics.
I was talking to Greg, not to you Kennie. Have a problem with Greg
answering for himself about you? Afraid your puppet might wake up on
what you are actually doing to him?
Not that it matters really, because you two are low lifes as it is.
>
> MOE> I think you know that Kennie fabricates his claims about " Moore",
> and
> MOE> I think you know that the " easy way to make money" post was Kennie
> MOE> trying to frame " Moore". You've seen " Moore's posts long enough to
> MOE> know that he doesn't make such sloppily obvious threats. But Kennie
> MOE>does.
>
> Feminazis are such simple minded creatures. IF you had even a small
> amount of brain you would have KNOWN that the original of that "make money"
> post were places in newsgroups that I cannot read or post DIRECTLY to. I can
> ONLY corsspost there. It was deliberately placed where the COWARD believe I
> would never see it or somebody would have to show it to me. You are too
> stupid to know that Moore has a 10 year HISTORY of doint that kind of thing.
> But you are so WHACKED in the head you can't see what is before you.
You are capable of seeing the posts yourself so stop the BULLSHIT
Kennie. You saw them because you originated the posts , you liar.
And BTW if " Moore" supposedly posted it as you wish us to believe,
why would he post it where you COULD find it on usenet, an area where
you damn near live in online, rather than, say, some anarchist list
elsewhere or something? You give " Moore" credit for being devious and
cunning and yet you want to claim he would so something THAT stupid?
Unh uh,Kennie. That doesn't wash. The most likely suspect in the
arson solicitation post is YOU. You also put a date limitation on it
to cover your fat ass from the post coming back to bite you if real
world consequences came back to bite your ass and the post could be
proven to have come form you.
" Course it doesn't prevent anyone from preserving your post before
the end date and make some inquiries that would lead to the originator
of the post-- you.
Moe
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
whitevamp
BTW it was posted in one of your regular haunts on usenet.
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So your excuse of not being able to see it is exposed for the LIE
that it is.
So alt.support.child-protective-services is NOT one or your usual
usenet groups?
Running out of room to lie again Kennie?
krp
> > > Kennie I can show where you used very graphic words about a
> > > jackhammer on someone's head.
>
> >http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/488608.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=B2A...
>
> > > You bullshited about it being a figure
> > > of speech but it was clearly a image full
> > > of violence aimed at a woman.
>
> > Wouldn't you have to prove you're a woman?
>
> MOE> His jackhammer comment wasn't aimed at me greg.
>
> Who was it "aimed" at Moe?????
MOE> You damn well know whom it was aimed at Kennie. You also know she is
MOE> currently dealing with some serious crap in her life and doesn' t
MOE> have time to deal with your garbage against her.
Too bad her personal e-mails TO me don't indicate what YOU scream about
at all.
MOE> A graphic depiction of a jackhammer against a human head is an
MOE> obvious threat, no matter how you try to deny it to cover your fat ass.
ONLY to a PSYCHO who HAS to take things literally because she is so far
over the mental line as a FEMINAZI she HAS to view it that way. The person
in question did NOT take it that way and you and your psycho pal Moore are
about the ONLY kooks who have. The woman admits she is HARD HEADED at times.
TOO BAD YOU CANNOT!
> MOE> The fact still remains your master Kennie made TWO posts about
> violence to the head
> MOE> of another poster. The gender of the person he was attacking is of no
> MOE> consequence. It is the fact that he made the threats in the first
> MOE> place.
>
> Seems that the person I made the comment to did NOT take it as the
> threat that YOU do!
MOE> She had more important things in her REAL LIFE to deal with than a
MOE> shit head online making a threat. Right now you are not important to
MOE> her to deal with filing criminal charges against you.
Do you think you are her spokesperson Moe? She and I have NO problems
between us. It is ALL in your twisted head.
>You seem to NEED to construe things that way. Actually
> it was directed that the person is "hard headed" which she admits herself.
> Oh Moe the GENDER has EVERYTHING to do with iot for a NUT CASE like YOU!
> Needless to say, YOU are wrapped pretty tight on gender issues.
MOE> Threatening to apply a jackhammer against a human head is not a
MOE> gender issue. Its a threat of bodily harm issue.
ONLY if you are INSANE enough to take the comment literally! Bet you are
one of those who REALLY believed that David Letterman was suggesting that
Sarah Palin's daughter be RAPED too, it is ALL in YOUR mind Moe. It is how
YOU think.
> MOE> I have a hard time believing thatyou are so dumb you don't see the
> obvious about Kenneth Pangborn.
> What's so obvious? Because I disagree with YOUR extremist BULLSHIT -
> that I hate women? You can never accept it as just disagreement with your
> polemics.
MOE> I was talking to Greg, not to you Kennie. Have a problem with Greg
MOE> answering for himself about you? Afraid your puppet might wake up on
MOE> what you are actually doing to him?
Get something straight Maureen. When you TALK about me, I reserve the
right to answedr your INSANE BULLSHIT or NOT as *I* choose. GOT THAT?
> Feminazis are such simple minded creatures. IF you had even a small
> amount of brain you would have KNOWN that the original of that "make
> money"
> post were places in newsgroups that I cannot read or post DIRECTLY to. I
> can
> ONLY corsspost there. It was deliberately placed where the COWARD believe
> I
> would never see it or somebody would have to show it to me. You are too
> stupid to know that Moore has a 10 year HISTORY of doint that kind of
> thing.
> But you are so WHACKED in the head you can't see what is before you.
MOE> You are capable of seeing the posts yourself so stop the BULLSHIT
MOE> Kennie. You saw them because you originated the posts , you liar.
Maureen you are always so charming. I think your mother must have been a
rattlesnake. NO, Maureen. Verizon has droppedd access to ALL alt.
newsgroups. I only SAW it because somebody fed me a GOOGLE link to David's
handiwork.
MOE> And BTW if " Moore" supposedly posted it as you wish us to believe,
MOE> why would he post it where you COULD find it on usenet, an area where
MOE> you damn near live in online, rather than, say, some anarchist list
MOE> elsewhere or something? You give " Moore" credit for being devious and
MOE> cunning and yet you want to claim he would so something THAT stupid?
Moe as I have repeatedly said, YOU are a DULLARD. Moore counted on Greg
or someone alerting me to his latest insanity. So he can PLAY innocent.
Moore posts LOTS of shit I never see at all, but sometimes it gets to me
when a detective shows at my door. He is a PROLIFIC little author ESPECIALLY
in deviant sexual issue chat rooms. When his INSANE shit gets to a level to
draw sufficient law enforcement attention they talk to me about it and show
me Davey's latest poetry. We all KNOW that Moore doesn't have the stones to
every carry out ANY of his threats. But they are aware of Davey's pal JEFFY.
MOE> Unh uh,Kennie. That doesn't wash. The most likely suspect in the
MOE> arson solicitation post is YOU. You also put a date limitation on it
MOE> to cover your fat ass from the post coming back to bite you if real
MOE> world consequences came back to bite your ass and the post could be
MOE> proven to have come form you.
Verizon does NOT impose date limitations Maureen. Another fantasy of
yours?
krp
MOE> So alt.support.child-protective-services is NOT one or your usual
MOE> usenet groups? Running out of room to lie again Kennie?
Maureen it seems every day you feel obliged to TOP the previous day's
level of your stupidity. I cannot READ ASCPS and can ONLY crosspost to it.
Something WAAAAYYYYY too technical for a DUNCE like YOU to grasp.
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:7abea23fbd36c961...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>MOE> Oh you mean like YOU do Kennie?
>>
>> Care to show an example of where *I* have ever threatened to burn down
>>somebody's house? Or perhaps you have a post where you claim I solicited
>>the rape of somebody's wife?
>>SHOW US!
>
> Since you asked so nicely:
>
> Stacy Alexander, whom you threatened with rape, was somebody's wife IIRC.
Davey are we BACK to that old CUT AND PAST forgery of yours? You're
getting DESPERATE again. The simple FACT is that the ONLY place that post
exists is on YOUR website, and in YOUR posts. It is a clever cut and past of
several of my posts. The BEST excuse you have for it NOT existing on Google
is your drugged out claim that I "had it NUKED" the same LAME EXCUSE you
give for my name NOT appearing in the sex offender registries of Wisconsin
or Florida where YOU claim I am listed. That I had the listings "NUKED."
That's pretty good, Davey. Whenever you can't find the stuff of your
allegations, just claim I had the proof "NUKED." Does it work for you? It
works for the retarded like Moe.
And MOORE even taking that SHIT you have up LITERALLY do you think MZ.
Alexander had much to worry about from a bunch of little green men in flying
saucers raping her? REALLY Davey?
Do they do that shit much? That is an "EVEN IF" statement Davey, not an
admission. EVEN IF we take your INSANE BULLSHIT literally - EVEN IF we are
THAT Polish - what's the chances of a UFO landing in her back yard? Frankly
having seen pictures of her - I think she's SAFE. Not even Sasquatch is
THAT desperate.
mmrpurdue
> On Thu, 02 Jul 2009, krp <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >"whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think what ken and greg have going on is Folie a' Deux. It makes
sense.
Dan Sullivan
>
> "whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a710f5a5-0331-4920...@24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> MOE> So alt.support.child-protective-services is NOT one or your usual
> MOE> usenet groups? Running out of room to lie again Kennie?
>
> Maureen it seems every day you feel obliged to TOP the previous day's
> level of your stupidity. I cannot READ ASCPS and can ONLY crosspost to it.
If asCPS is so important for you to post to, kenny boy, spring for the few
bucks a month it costs and stop complaining.
freedom
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, whitevamp <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jul 2, 9:27=A0am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:cb7ccf87-6bc9-41be...@y17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com..=
.
>> On Jul 2, 2:14 am, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > Kennie I can show where you used very graphic words about a
>> > > jackhammer on someone's head.
>>
>> >http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/488608.jpg?v=3D1&c=3DNewsMaker&k=3D2&d=
=3DB2A...
>>
>> > > You bullshited about it being a figure
>> > > of speech but it was clearly a image full
>> > > of violence aimed at a woman.
>>
>> > Wouldn't you have to prove you're a woman?
>>
>> MOE> =A0His jackhammer comment wasn't aimed at me greg.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 Who was it "aimed" at Moe?????
>
> You damn well know whom it was aimed at Kennie. You also know she is
>currently dealing with some serious crap in her life and doesn' t
>have time to deal with your garbage against her.
>
> A graphic depiction of a jackhammer against a human head is an
>obvious threat, no matter how you try to deny it to cover your fat
>ass.
>
>>
>> MOE> =A0The fact still remains your master Kennie made TWO posts about
>> violence to the head
>> MOE> of another poster. The gender of the person he was attacking =A0is =
of no
>> MOE> consequence. It is =A0the fact that he made the threats in the firs=
t
>> MOE> place.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 Seems that the person I made the comment to did NOT take it as t=
he
>> threat that YOU do!
>
> She had more important things in her REAL LIFE to deal with than a
>shit head online making a threat. Right now you are not important to
>her to deal with filing criminal charges against you.
>
>>You seem to NEED to construe things that way. Actually
>> it was directed that the person is "hard headed" which she admits hersel=
f.
>> Oh Moe the GENDER has EVERYTHING to do with iot for a NUT CASE like YOU!=
>> Needless to say, YOU are wrapped pretty tight on gender issues.
>
> Threatening to apply a jackhammer against a human head is not a
>gender issue. Its a threat of bodily harm issue.
>
>
>>
>> MOE> =A0I have a hard time believing thatyou are so dumb you don't see t=
he
>> obvious about Kenneth Pangborn.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 What's so obvious? Because I disagree with YOUR extremist BULLSH=
IT -
>> that I hate women? You can never accept it as just disagreement with you=
r
>> polemics.
>
> I was talking to Greg, not to you Kennie. Have a problem with Greg
>answering for himself about you? Afraid your puppet might wake up on
>what you are actually doing to him?
This is highly doubtful. Ken has already denounced Greg, publicly, as a
"below average schmuck." Despite this, Greg keeps on lying for Ken and
following him. Talk about low self-esteem....
>Moe
>Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's=
Association or AN Y connection to them."
- --Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie=
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde=
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves=
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
- --Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
- --Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
- --Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to
claim that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
- --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services
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whitevamp
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Your posts crosspost to ASCPS. In fact that is where I read them, you
lying dumbass.
Look how pathetic you are Kennie, You have resorted to lying about
which usenet newsgroup you post to.
And, as you damn well know, Verizon is NOT a newsreader program but
it is a wireless service.
Having problems distinguishing between a service provider and a
newsreader program Kennie?
You've been doing this crap online from what I can tell for at least
a decade. You know there are various newsreaders you can use to access
the newsgroups, including ASCPS.
Bad try at another lie Kennie. Surely with someone like you who has
lied so much you would excel in lying by now. Has yrru cesspool supply
of lies dried up?
(( laughing))
whitevamp
> >"whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Its his noise again. I almost got him into his rant mode, though his
post has some really good targets to criticize him with. Like the
bullshit about a detective coming to his door.
Poor obese scum. He has to pile on his lies rather than prove even
one of his claims.
I like his lie about Verizon not allowing him to see alt groups. What
bullshit that is!! Like he can't use another newsreader, like Forte or
Google. He's pretending he doesn't see the alt groups though he's been
a PITA in ASCPS for years.
Moe
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Moe
whitevamp
> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:g063m.455$P5...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
>
>
>
> >news:a710f5a5-0331-4920...@24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > MOE> So alt.support.child-protective-services is NOT one or your usual
> > MOE> usenet groups? Running out of room to lie again Kennie?
>
> > Maureen it seems every day you feel obliged to TOP the previous day's
> > level of your stupidity. I cannot READ ASCPS and can ONLY crosspost to it.
>
> If asCPS is so important for you to post to, kenny boy, spring for the few
> bucks a month it costs and stop complaining.
Hell he can see the alt groups for free by using Google. Kennie is
just doing his posturing crap again.
krp
"Jeff" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
news:d4fedd5f9f035d09...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
> Bring them on. You've been threatening this for 10 years, kook.
Waiting for you to show up again outside my house. Come on JEFFY - - -
er DAVEY - - knock on the door. Have some STONES for a change.
krp
On Jul 2, 12:21 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a710f5a5-0331-4920...@24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> MOE> So alt.support.child-protective-services is NOT one or your usual
> MOE> usenet groups? Running out of room to lie again Kennie?
>
> Maureen it seems every day you feel obliged to TOP the previous day's
> level of your stupidity. I cannot READ ASCPS and can ONLY crosspost to it.
> Something WAAAAYYYYY too technical for a DUNCE like YOU to grasp.
MOE> And, as you damn well know, Verizon is NOT a newsreader program but
MOE> it is a wireless service.
Are you INSANE Maureen? Maureen you take your STUPIDITY to a whole new
plateau! Yes, Verizon has a wireless service. YOU FRIGGING IDIOT. They also
are an ISP, and I have Verizon FIOS.
krp
I am probably going to change carriers.
Dan Sullivan
Looking for a new carruer?
Might I suggest the house fly.
The House Fly is often a carrier of diseases, such as typhoid fever,
cholera, dysentery, and anthrax.
krp
>>>>
>>>> MOE> So alt.support.child-protective-services is NOT one or your usual
>>>> MOE> usenet groups? Running out of room to lie again Kennie?
>>>>
>>>> Maureen it seems every day you feel obliged to TOP the previous
>>>> day's level of your stupidity. I cannot READ ASCPS and can ONLY
>>>> crosspost to it.
>>>
>>> If asCPS is so important for you to post to, kenny boy, spring for the
>>> few bucks a month it costs and stop complaining.
>>
>> I am probably going to change carriers.
>
> Looking for a new carruer?
>
> Might I suggest the house fly.
>
> The House Fly is often a carrier of diseases, such as typhoid fever,
> cholera, dysentery, and anthrax.
What is a "carruer?"
freedom
Verizon getting tired of your internet abuse, like AOL, Atlantic, Earthlink
and Internet Junction did?
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
Association or AN Y connection to them."
- --Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
- --Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
- --Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
- --Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to
claim that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
- --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services
**, in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
Keywords: false allegations,sexual abuse,marital rape, date rape, sexual
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krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> MOE> So alt.support.child-protective-services is NOT one or your usual
>>>> MOE> usenet groups? Running out of room to lie again Kennie?
>>>>
>>>> Maureen it seems every day you feel obliged to TOP the previous
>>>> day's
>>>> level of your stupidity. I cannot READ ASCPS and can ONLY crosspost to
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> If asCPS is so important for you to post to, kenny boy, spring for the
>>> few
>>> bucks a month it costs and stop complaining.
>>
>>I am probably going to change carriers.
>
> Verizon getting tired of your internet abuse, like AOL, Atlantic,
> Earthlink
> and Internet Junction did?
No Davey. Just tired of Verizon in general and then dropping most of Usenet.
I dumped AOL when they did that. However, thanks to people LIKE YOU many
major carriers have been and will be dropping Usenet.
AS EXPECTED - I see you RAN AWAY from trying to justify harassing all
those people on your KEYWORDS attacks on me. Your usual standard of
COWARDICE. Why don't you tell Moe WHY you feel justified in harassing
innocent people in order to try to FORCE ME to so what you want? I bet that
SHE will be completely sympathetic to you on that one Davey. She's about the
only one who will be. I bet there are others that want to hear you side of
the story. But tell the world WHY you think it is your "RIGHT" and "DUTY"
to harass those people. What did they do to YOU?
freedom
I've never represented Lotus Software. Pathetic stalking attempt noted.
Next lie, please?
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:edda4775dea3da58...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
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>>>>>
>>>>> MOE> So alt.support.child-protective-services is NOT one or your usual
>>>>> MOE> usenet groups? Running out of room to lie again Kennie?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maureen it seems every day you feel obliged to TOP the previous
>>>>> day's
>>>>> level of your stupidity. I cannot READ ASCPS and can ONLY crosspost to
>>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> If asCPS is so important for you to post to, kenny boy, spring for the
>>>> few
>>>> bucks a month it costs and stop complaining.
>>>
>>>I am probably going to change carriers.
>>
>> Verizon getting tired of your internet abuse, like AOL, Atlantic,
>> Earthlink
>> and Internet Junction did?
>
>No Davey. Just tired of Verizon in general and then dropping most of Usenet.
>I dumped AOL when they did that.
AOL dumped you in the summer of 2000 for your abuse. Lie about it all you
want....your whining is still archived.
>However, thanks to people LIKE YOU many
>major carriers have been and will be dropping Usenet.
>
> AS EXPECTED - I see you RAN AWAY from trying to justify harassing all
>those people on your KEYWORDS attacks on me. Your usual standard of
>COWARDICE. Why don't you tell Moe WHY you feel justified in harassing
>innocent people in order to try to FORCE ME to so what you want? I bet that
>SHE will be completely sympathetic to you on that one Davey. She's about the
>only one who will be. I bet there are others that want to hear you side of
>the story.
Name one.
> But tell the world WHY you think it is your "RIGHT" and "DUTY"
>to harass those people. What did they do to YOU?
I haven't harassed anyone. Please provide a single example of anyone from
the list of keywords, who has objected to their name being there.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
Association or AN Y connection to them."
--Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
--Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
--Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
--Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to claim
that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009, krp <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I've never represented Lotus Software. Pathetic stalking attempt noted.
> Next lie, please?
That's NOT what you tell people you "CONSULT" for, is it Davey? You DO
seem to make all sorts of BIG CLAIMS for "LOTUS SOLUTIONS." Then you turn
the offices into chaos as you mpull your little crap starting wars between
people in the workplace. You get OFF on the sense of "POWER" you feel as you
manipulate people with your little machvellian games.
>>>>>> MOE> So alt.support.child-protective-services is NOT one or your
>>>>>> usual
>>>>>> MOE> usenet groups? Running out of room to lie again Kennie?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maureen it seems every day you feel obliged to TOP the previous
>>>>>> day's
>>>>>> level of your stupidity. I cannot READ ASCPS and can ONLY crosspost
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> If asCPS is so important for you to post to, kenny boy, spring for the
>>>>> few
>>>>> bucks a month it costs and stop complaining.
>>>>
>>>>I am probably going to change carriers.
>>>
>>> Verizon getting tired of your internet abuse, like AOL, Atlantic,
>>> Earthlink
>>> and Internet Junction did?
>>No Davey. Just tired of Verizon in general and then dropping most of
>>Usenet.
>>I dumped AOL when they did that.
> AOL dumped you in the summer of 2000 for your abuse. Lie about it all you
> want....your whining is still archived.
And hyet I continues to post until February of 2005 which YOPU continued
crying like a BABY about to AOL.
> >However, thanks to people LIKE YOU many
>>major carriers have been and will be dropping Usenet.
>>
>> AS EXPECTED - I see you RAN AWAY from trying to justify harassing all
>>those people on your KEYWORDS attacks on me. Your usual standard of
>>COWARDICE. Why don't you tell Moe WHY you feel justified in harassing
>>innocent people in order to try to FORCE ME to so what you want? I bet
>>that
>>SHE will be completely sympathetic to you on that one Davey. She's about
>>the
>>only one who will be. I bet there are others that want to hear you side
>>of
>>the story.
> Name one.
STILL RUNNING DAVEY? Like the little PANSY you are.
>> But tell the world WHY you think it is your "RIGHT" and "DUTY"
>>to harass those people. What did they do to YOU?
> I haven't harassed anyone. Please provide a single example of anyone from
> the list of keywords, who has objected to their name being there.
Oh must they OBJECT to YOU? You EVADE the question AGAIN Davey. Buy your
COWARDICE is nothing new. It is obvious that EVEN YOU realize there is NO
possible rational justification for including the names of innocent people
on your KEYWORD LIST. A person would have to be incredibly STUPID not to
know you do it to TRY to "BLACKMAIL" me into doing what you want, PUNK!
Your warped mind reasons that then you harass innocent people that you can
make they do what you want. It's bad enough that you HARASS my wife and her
family, that so FITS with your character. After all, it IS how you were
raised. It has worked for you with others, just NOT with me, which is what
drives your INSANITY and website. You can't handle people standing up to
you, but Davey, it's not a big thing to stand up to your pusillanimous
bullshit. I know you are a PUSSY, Moore. You are 100% mouth. YAP YAP YAP
YAP YAP! You are a real Pit Chi hua hua! You were a GEEK in high school.
The DORK they everyone made fun of. High-water pants, glasses, and pussy
through and through. The internet is the ONLY place you can PRETEND to be
MACHO. So it makes you "feel" like a man to harass people who have nothing
to do with me. In short, Davey, it proves the opposite. It proves what a
YELLOW COWARD you are.
When your life ends, your epitaph will be "HERE LIES A COWARD."
krp
"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0a192779-1a0c-4e3b...@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
KRP > Well Kunt, name ONE case we have ever LOST to CPS!
DS > How many of your clients have chosen to
DS > cease using your services before
DS > their case was resolved, pangborn?
GH> What's your point, Dan? That one idiot signed a contract he couldn't
live up to?
In 33 years I have had TWO of those out of many hundreds of cases.
GH> WHY is that an issue for Ken?
Because, Greg he NEEDS it to be so he can claim to be the MESSIAH of
ASCPS again. His bullshit has been shot full of so many holes the jealous
little schwantzkopf has no other choice but his increasing DESPERATE
accusations to make himself seem knowledgeable. Note that after years of
asking him to name ONE positive noteworthy accomplishment ion his MISERABLE
life, he can't think of even ONE. All he can do is attack somebody who IS
accomplishing things. It's ALL Danny boy has to bring to the table. All
thunder and NO lightning!
krp
"Dan Sullivan" <dansu...@usa.com> wrote in message
news:8e7378c3-00e1-40fb...@b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 5, 4:45 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> KRP > Well Kunt, name ONE case we have ever LOST to CPS!
>
> DS > How many of your clients have chosen to
> DS > cease using your services before
> DS > their case was resolved, pangborn?
>
DJS> The point is ken pangborn has had a number of clients that realized he
DJS> was full of shit before they resolved their cases with CPS... and they
DJS> chose to cut their losses and fire the a-team.
NAME THEM - LIAR!!!!! You can't because you just MADE IT UP! Danny do
you think this kind of bullshit makes you seem credible to people?
Dan Sullivan
>
> "Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0a192779-1a0c-4e3b...@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> KRP > Well Kunt, name ONE case we have ever LOST to CPS!
>
> DS > How many of your clients have chosen to
> DS > cease using your services before
> DS > their case was resolved, pangborn?
>
> GH> What's your point, Dan? That one idiot signed a contract he couldn't
> live up to?
>
> In 33 years I have had TWO of those out of many hundreds of cases.
How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services before
Dan Sullivan
> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ON84m.1006$P5....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
>
>
>
> >news:0a192779-1a0c-4e3b...@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> > KRP > Well Kunt, name ONE case we have ever LOST to CPS!
>
> > DS > How many of your clients have chosen to
> > DS > cease using your services before
> > DS > their case was resolved, pangborn?
>
> > GH> What's your point, Dan? That one idiot signed a contract he couldn't
> > live up to?
>
> > In 33 years I have had TWO of those out of many hundreds of cases.
>
> How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services before
> their case was resolved, pangborn?
kenny?
krp
I think I answered that question, MORON! Let's see YOUR PROOF that there
are others.
krp
> > KRP > Well Kunt, name ONE case we have ever LOST to CPS!
> > DS > How many of your clients have chosen to
> > DS > cease using your services before
> > DS > their case was resolved, pangborn?
> > GH> What's your point, Dan? That one idiot signed a contract he couldn't
> > live up to?
> > In 33 years I have had TWO of those out of many hundreds of cases.
> How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services before
> their case was resolved, pangborn?
DJS> kenny?
YOU claim to have the FACTS, let's see your proof! Names, dates, places.
DANNY????
Dan Sullivan
No, you didn't.
You claimed two people signed your contract and didn't live up to it.
krp
>>>> DJS > How many of your clients have chosen to
>>>> DJS > cease using your services before
>>>> DJS > their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>>>
>>>> GH> What's your point, Dan? That one idiot signed a contract he
>>>> couldn't live up to?
>>
>>>> In 33 years I have had TWO of those out of many hundreds of cases.
>>
>>> How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services before
>>> their case was resolved, pangborn?
>> I think I answered that question,
> No, you didn't.
Yes I did Danny.
> You claimed two people signed your contract and didn't live up to it.
That's as close to YOUR imaginary story as our cases get. I am still
waiting for YOUR evidence to the contrary> Name the cases you CLAIM to know
about< Danny!!
> How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services before
> their case was resolved, pangborn?
You CLAIM to know of some, Let's see some PROOF of that, or stand there
in your own funk for AGAIN making crap up about me.
Dan Sullivan
>
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4a515072$0$5902$607e...@cv.net...
>
>>>>> DJS > How many of your clients have chosen to
>>>>> DJS > cease using your services before
>>>>> DJS > their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>>>>
>>>>> GH> What's your point, Dan? That one idiot signed a contract he
>>>>> couldn't live up to?
>>>
>>>>> In 33 years I have had TWO of those out of many hundreds of cases.
>>>
>>>> How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services
>>>> before their case was resolved, pangborn?
>
>>> I think I answered that question,
>
>> No, you didn't.
>
> Yes I did Danny.
>
>> You claimed two people signed your contract and didn't live up to it.
>
> That's as close to YOUR imaginary story as our cases get. I am still
> waiting for YOUR evidence to the contrary
I simply asked you a question, kenny boy.
I didn't invent an imaginary story.
> Name the cases you CLAIM to know about< Danny!!
>
>> How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services before
>> their case was resolved, pangborn?
>
> You CLAIM to know of some, Let's see some PROOF of that, or stand there
> in your own funk for AGAIN making crap up about me.
If I've invented an imaginary story, as you claim, why are you so concerned?
Greegor
out of a contract for Ken's services?
What have you got, Dan?
Are you an expert on CONTRACT LAW now too, Dan?
Dan Sullivan
> Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
> out of a contract for Ken's services?
No, but I never claimed anyone did.
My question is "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your
krp
>>>>>> DJS > How many of your clients have chosen to
>>>>>> DJS > cease using your services before
>>>>>> DJS > their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GH> What's your point, Dan? That one idiot signed a contract he
>>>>>> couldn't live up to?
>>>>
>>>>>> In 33 years I have had TWO of those out of many hundreds of cases.
>>>>
>>>>> How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services
>>>>> before their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>
>>>> I think I answered that question,
>>
>>> No, you didn't.
>>
>> Yes I did Danny.
>>
>>> You claimed two people signed your contract and didn't live up to it.
>> That's as close to YOUR imaginary story as our cases get. I am still
>> waiting for YOUR evidence to the contrary
> I simply asked you a question, kenny boy.
Sullivan you NEVER "simply ask a question." Implied in your questions
are the answers.
> I didn't invent an imaginary story.
Sure you did. You said you had "CAUSE" to ask it, implying you HAD
information that i *have* had MANY such clients. At least more than one
because YOU used the PLURAL. I have asked you to prove I have had them, and
as usual you change the subject after your bullshit claims.
>> Name the cases you CLAIM to know about Danny!!
>>> How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services before
>>> their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>
>> You CLAIM to know of some, Let's see some PROOF of that, or stand
>> there in your own funk for AGAIN making crap up about me.
> If I've invented an imaginary story, as you claim, why are you so
> concerned?
Because you TRY to pass your bullshit off as the truth. I am just making
sure people KNOW that you are LYING and WHY!
krp
Well Greg, Danny believes he is the foremost authority on contract law.
He lamely TRIED to suggest I have had clients that dropped my services. He
suggests he HAS information that people should know about me. Sullivan is
KING of the innuendo. Danny is so DESPERATE to recapture his little kingdom
(ascps) that he goes from absurd suggestion to absurd suggesting trying to
tear me down to build himself up. He's a scurrilous bullshitter. I have
challenged him to document his suggestions. As before his answer is "I NEVER
SAID YOU DID." Then WHY bring it up? In short, Sullivan is showing how he
operates. It is a consistent pattern, in the end we always get back to
Sullivan TRYING to rehab his ruined reputation by attacking others. He
needn't worry, he always has MOE, Kent Wills and David Moore on his side.
The rogues gallery.
krp
>
> "Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:344354be-de6c-4fb4...@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>> Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
>> out of a contract for Ken's services?
> No, but I never claimed anyone did.
You are such a SLIMEBALL, Sullivan. You do this constantly. If you had
NO REASON to ask (NO FACTS) when WHY did you bring it up? The question
SAGGESTS the answer. It's just the way a DESPERATE little faker (YOU) tries
to hoodwink people into thinking YOU are an EXPERT and you have FACTS, when
in truth all you have is the wind you create.
> My question is "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your
> 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
The question implies the answer, Sullivan, that you have PROOF that
there ARE some. You don't, you are just making it up in your desperation.
Dan Sullivan
>
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4a5166a6$0$31280$607e...@cv.net...
>>
>> "Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:344354be-de6c-4fb4...@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>>> Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
>>> out of a contract for Ken's services?
>
>> No, but I never claimed anyone did.
>
> You are such a SLIMEBALL, Sullivan. You do this constantly. If you had
> NO REASON to ask (NO FACTS) when WHY did you bring it up?
I didn't bring up the subject of someone backing out of your contract, kenny
boy, grag did.
You should be calling him a "SLIMEBALL."
> The question SAGGESTS the answer.
Here's the question I asked, AGAIN, "How many of your clients have chosen to
cease using your 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
No mention of a contract.
> It's just the way a DESPERATE little faker (YOU) tries to hoodwink people
> into thinking YOU are an EXPERT and you have FACTS, when in truth all you
> have is the wind you create.
>
>> My question is "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your
>> 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
>
> The question implies the answer, Sullivan,
No, it doesn't.
> that you have PROOF that there ARE some. You don't, you are just making it
> up in your desperation.
Of course there are some, kenny boy.
There are a LOT!!!
Dan Sullivan
>
> "Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:344354be-de6c-4fb4...@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
>> out of a contract for Ken's services?
>>
>> What have you got, Dan?
>>
>> Are you an expert on CONTRACT LAW now too, Dan?
>
> Well Greg, Danny believes he is the foremost authority on contract law.
grag raised the topic of "reneging on contracts."
> He lamely TRIED to suggest I have had clients that dropped my services.
grag raised the subject and you admitted some of your clients have reneged
on your contract.
My question asks if there are people who ceased usuing your "services"
before their case with CPS was resolved.
You even have that option built into your contract, don't you, kenny boy?
> He suggests he HAS information that people should know about me.
Oh, you know I do.
> Sullivan is KING of the innuendo. Danny is so DESPERATE to recapture his
> little kingdom (ascps) that he goes from absurd suggestion to absurd
> suggesting trying to tear me down to build himself up.
You've done more to tear yourself down than anyone I've ever had the
misfortune to come in contact with.
> He's a scurrilous bullshitter. I have challenged him to document his
> suggestions. As before his answer is "I NEVER SAID YOU DID."
That was my answer to which question?
> Then WHY bring it up? In short, Sullivan is showing how he operates. It is
> a consistent pattern, in the end we always get back to Sullivan TRYING to
> rehab his ruined reputation by attacking others. He needn't worry, he
> always has MOE, Kent Wills and David Moore on his side.
I've never communicated in any way with David Moore.
My only communication with the person known as "Kent Willis" was to ask that
he stop cross posting.
And I haven't communicated with Moe since I can't remember.
Dan Sullivan
>
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4a5156ff$0$5928$607e...@cv.net...
>
>>>>>>> DJS > How many of your clients have chosen to
>>>>>>> DJS > cease using your services before
>>>>>>> DJS > their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GH> What's your point, Dan? That one idiot signed a contract he
>>>>>>> couldn't live up to?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> In 33 years I have had TWO of those out of many hundreds of
>>>>>>> cases.
>>>>>
>>>>>> How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services
>>>>>> before their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>>
>>>>> I think I answered that question,
>>>
>>>> No, you didn't.
>>>
>>> Yes I did Danny.
>>>
>>>> You claimed two people signed your contract and didn't live up to it.
>
>>> That's as close to YOUR imaginary story as our cases get. I am still
>>> waiting for YOUR evidence to the contrary
>
>> I simply asked you a question, kenny boy.
>
> Sullivan you NEVER "simply ask a question." Implied in your questions
> are the answers.
A perception of yours fueled by your paranoia.
>> I didn't invent an imaginary story.
>
> Sure you did. You said you had "CAUSE" to ask it, implying you HAD
> information that i *have* had MANY such clients. At least more than one
> because YOU used the PLURAL.
grag raised the issue of your clients reneging on your contract and you
admitted a number had.
Complain about him.
> I have asked you to prove I have had them, and as usual you change the
> subject after your bullshit claims.
My question has been "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using
your 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?" from the start.
>>> Name the cases you CLAIM to know about Danny!!
>
>>>> How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services
>>>> before their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>>
>>> You CLAIM to know of some, Let's see some PROOF of that, or stand
>>> there in your own funk for AGAIN making crap up about me.
>
>> If I've invented an imaginary story, as you claim, why are you so
>> concerned?
>
> Because you TRY to pass your bullshit off as the truth.
But you admitted you had a number of clients who reneged on your contract,
kenny boy.
> I am just making sure people KNOW that you are LYING
How can I be lying when you admitted a number of your clients reneged on
your contract?
> and WHY!
Because they came to realize you were an incompetent, moneygrubbing dolt.
krp
>>>> Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
>>>> out of a contract for Ken's services?
>
>>> No, but I never claimed anyone did.
>> You are such a SLIMEBALL, Sullivan. You do this constantly. If you had
>> NO REASON to ask (NO FACTS) when WHY did you bring it up?
> I didn't bring up the subject of someone backing out of your contract,
> kenny boy, grag did.
YOU brought up clients ceasing use of our servioces. PROVE IT Slimeball.
> You should be calling him a "SLIMEBALL."
>> The question SUGGESTS the answer.
> Here's the question I asked, AGAIN, "How many of your clients have chosen
> to cease using your 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
> No mention of a contract.
YOU claim to have PROOF that some did. NAMES, DATES, PLACES, Danny boy
or stand as a LIAR!
>> It's just the way a DESPERATE little faker (YOU) tries to hoodwink people
>> into thinking YOU are an EXPERT and you have FACTS, when in truth all you
>> have is the wind you create.
>>
>>> My question is "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your
>>> 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
>> The question implies the answer, Sullivan,
> No, it doesn't.
With YOU it AL:WAYS DOES. If you have NO PROOF, then why ask the
question. EVERYONE knows your intent is to suggest that MANY people have.
The FACT is that you are LYING trying to enhance your ruined image.
>> that you have PROOF that there ARE some. You don't, you are just making
>> it up in your desperation.
> Of course there are some, kenny boy. There are a LOT!!!
PROOF Danny. NAMES, DATES, PLACES!!!! You're bullshitting and everyone
knows it. NAME THEM. Oh wait, I know. "WILL RAINEY!" Right Danny? Small
problem, Will Rainey is an INVENTION of your buddy Moore, named after
William Rainey Harper College that was just a few miles north of where he
used to live. Oh I can't wait to see your evidence.
krp
>>>>>>>> DJS > How many of your clients have chosen to
>>>>>>>> DJS > cease using your services before
>>>>>>>> DJS > their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GH> What's your point, Dan? That one idiot signed a contract he
>>>>>>>> couldn't live up to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In 33 years I have had TWO of those out of many hundreds of
>>>>>>>> cases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services
>>>>>>> before their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>>>
>>>>>> I think I answered that question,
>>>>
>>>>> No, you didn't.
>>>>
>>>> Yes I did Danny.
>>>>
>>>>> You claimed two people signed your contract and didn't live up to it.
>>
>>>> That's as close to YOUR imaginary story as our cases get. I am still
>>>> waiting for YOUR evidence to the contrary
>>
>>> I simply asked you a question, kenny boy.
>>
>> Sullivan you NEVER "simply ask a question." Implied in your questions
>> are the answers.
> A perception of yours fueled by your paranoia.
No, Danny, fueld by your pattern of behavior. You make all sorts of
claims about me to TRY to rehabilitate your shitty reputation. You NOW claim
to know "LOTS" of people who have done that, Let's have NAMES, Danny. Names,
dates, and places. Ckome on SLIMEBALL you SAY you have PROOF - where is
it????
>>> I didn't invent an imaginary story.
>> Sure you did. You said you had "CAUSE" to ask it, implying you HAD
>> information that i *have* had MANY such clients. At least more than one
>> because YOU used the PLURAL.
> grag raised the issue of your clients reneging on your contract and you
> admitted a number had. Complain about him.
No, Danny, Greg mentioned ONE guy who dishonored his contract. Which is
as close to what YOU claim as there is. YOUI have made a FACT claim that
there are LOTS of people who have backed out after hiring me. But you are
LYING - I have repeatedly challenged you to NAME THEM. You CAN'T because you
MADE IT UP in your psychotic belief that if you tear me down, you build
yourself up. It doesn't work that way, Danny boy. NAMES, DATES, PLACES!!!!
>> I have asked you to prove I have had them, and as usual you change the
>> subject after your bullshit claims.
> My question has been "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using
> your 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?" from the start.
Yes and in your previous post you claimed that there were "LOTS OF
THEM." A claim that necessitates that you have PROOF of it. BUT - as you
always do, you just make shit up and lie your ass off. NAMES, DATES, PLACES
Danny..
>>>> Name the cases you CLAIM to know about Danny!!
>>>>> How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services
>>>>> before their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>>>
>>>> You CLAIM to know of some, Let's see some PROOF of that, or stand
>>>> there in your own funk for AGAIN making crap up about me.
>>
>>> If I've invented an imaginary story, as you claim, why are you so
>>> concerned?
>>
>> Because you TRY to pass your bullshit off as the truth.
> But you admitted you had a number of clients who reneged on your contract,
> kenny boy.
The number was TWO in 33 years. Not a bad track record for ANY business.
>> I am just making sure people KNOW that you are LYING
> How can I be lying when you admitted a number of your clients reneged on
> your contract?
The NUMBER was TWO, LIAR!
>> and WHY!
> Because they came to realize you were an incompetent, moneygrubbing dolt.
YOUR PROOF???? Of course you HAVE NONE! You just LIE about your
opponents with alarming regularity Danny to TRY to be the PRINCE of ASCPS.
But people see you for what you are, and this is just one more nail in your
credibility coffin.
krp
>>> Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
>>> out of a contract for Ken's services?
>>>
>>> What have you got, Dan?
>>>
>>> Are you an expert on CONTRACT LAW now too, Dan?
>>
>> Well Greg, Danny believes he is the foremost authority on contract
>> law.
>
> grag raised the topic of "reneging on contracts."
>
>> He lamely TRIED to suggest I have had clients that dropped my services.
>
> grag raised the subject and you admitted some of your clients have reneged
> on your contract.
>
> My question asks if there are people who ceased usuing your "services"
> before their case with CPS was resolved.
>
> You even have that option built into your contract, don't you, kenny boy?
>
>> He suggests he HAS information that people should know about me.
>
> Oh, you know I do.
>
>> Sullivan is KING of the innuendo. Danny is so DESPERATE to recapture his
>> little kingdom (ascps) that he goes from absurd suggestion to absurd
>> suggesting trying to tear me down to build himself up.
> You've done more to tear yourself down than anyone I've ever had the
> misfortune to come in contact with.
But the point here is, Danny, your scurrilous allegations you CLAIM to
be FACT, but which you just make up. You claim you know of "LOTS OF PEOPLE"
who have backed out. NAMES, DATES, PLACES, Danny ort stand convicting
yourself of being a LOW DOWN LIAR yet again!
Dan Sullivan
>
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4a51e535$0$31262$607e...@cv.net...
>
>>>>>>>>> DJS > How many of your clients have chosen to
>>>>>>>>> DJS > cease using your services before
>>>>>>>>> DJS > their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> GH> What's your point, Dan? That one idiot signed a contract he
>>>>>>>>> couldn't live up to?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In 33 years I have had TWO of those out of many hundreds of
>>>>>>>>> cases.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services
>>>>>>>> before their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I answered that question,
>>>>>
>>>>>> No, you didn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I did Danny.
>>>>>
>>>>>> You claimed two people signed your contract and didn't live up to it.
>>>
>>>>> That's as close to YOUR imaginary story as our cases get. I am
>>>>> still waiting for YOUR evidence to the contrary
>>>
>>>> I simply asked you a question, kenny boy.
>>>
>>> Sullivan you NEVER "simply ask a question." Implied in your
>>> questions are the answers.
>
>> A perception of yours fueled by your paranoia.
>
> No, Danny, fueld by your pattern of behavior. You make all sorts of
> claims about me to TRY to rehabilitate your shitty reputation. You NOW
> claim to know "LOTS" of people who have done that,
I didn't claim I know them.
I claimed I know OF them.
>>>> I didn't invent an imaginary story.
>
>>> Sure you did. You said you had "CAUSE" to ask it, implying you HAD
>>> information that i *have* had MANY such clients. At least more than one
>>> because YOU used the PLURAL.
>
>> grag raised the issue of your clients reneging on your contract and you
>> admitted a number had. Complain about him.
>
> No, Danny, Greg mentioned ONE guy who dishonored his contract. Which is
> as close to what YOU claim as there is. YOUI have made a FACT claim that
> there are LOTS of people who have backed out after hiring me.
Chose to terminate your "services."
>> But you admitted you had a number of clients who reneged on your
>> contract, kenny boy.
>
> The number was TWO in 33 years.
Sure, and you received a personal handwritten invitation from Barack Obama
to attend his Inauguration, right, kenny boy?
You did make that claim, didn't you?
Dan Sullivan
>
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4a51e219$0$22536$607e...@cv.net...
<<<snip>>>
>> You've done more to tear yourself down than anyone I've ever had the
>> misfortune to come in contact with.
>
> But the point here is, Danny, your scurrilous allegations you CLAIM to
> be FACT, but which you just make up.
That's not even a sentence.
> You claim you know of "LOTS OF PEOPLE" who have backed out.
I know there are a lot of people who ceased using your services before their
case was resolved.
Dan Sullivan
>
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4a51df6e$0$31282$607e...@cv.net...
>
>>>>> Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
>>>>> out of a contract for Ken's services?
>>
>>>> No, but I never claimed anyone did.
>
>>> You are such a SLIMEBALL, Sullivan. You do this constantly. If you
>>> had NO REASON to ask (NO FACTS) when WHY did you bring it up?
>
>> I didn't bring up the subject of someone backing out of your contract,
>> kenny boy, grag did.
>
> YOU brought up clients ceasing use of our servioces. PROVE IT
> Slimeball.
Why do I need to prove it when you've admitted it was true, kenny boy?
Did you lie?
mmrpurdue
> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
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>
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Sure, and didn't he claim it was delivered by express mail or
something?
Keep enteraing us all with your "stories".
Laughter is indeed the best medicine.
mmrpurdue
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> >news:4a51df6e$0$31282$607e...@cv.net...
>
> >>>>> Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
> >>>>> out of a contract for Ken's services?
>
> >>>> No, but I never claimed anyone did.
>
> >>> You are such a SLIMEBALL, Sullivan. You do this constantly. If you
> >>> had NO REASON to ask (NO FACTS) when WHY did you bring it up?
>
> >> I didn't bring up the subject of someone backing out of your contract,
> >> kenny boy, grag did.
>
> > YOU brought up clients ceasing use of our servioces. PROVE IT
> > Slimeball.
>
> Why do I need to prove it when you've admitted it was true, kenny boy?
>
>
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Dan, my deepest regrets on Pangborn demoting you from KING OF ASCPS to
PRINCE of ASCPS, it must cause you pain. Try to remenber these fantasy
usenet worlds of pangborns exists only in his mind.
Pangborn, are there QUEENS and KNIGHTS too?
Greegor
Did you think Ken works without a CONTRACT?
Has there ever been a civil suit for breach of contract?
KRP > It's just the way a DESPERATE little faker
KRP > (YOU) tries to hoodwink people into thinking
KRP > YOU are an EXPERT and you have FACTS,
KRP > when in truth all you have is the wind you create.
[...]
DS > Of course there are some, kenny boy.
DS > There are a LOT!!!
You can't even name one, yet you assert
MANY. Typical of Dan Sullivan.
What does a signed CONTRACT mean to you?
Do you think that if somebody signs a contract
that it means anything, Dan?
krp
>>
>>>>>>>>>> DJS > How many of your clients have chosen to
>>>>>>>>>> DJS > cease using your services before
>>>>>>>>>> DJS > their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> GH> What's your point, Dan? That one idiot signed a contract he
>>>>>>>>>> couldn't live up to?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In 33 years I have had TWO of those out of many hundreds of
>>>>>>>>>> cases.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your services
>>>>>>>>> before their case was resolved, pangborn?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think I answered that question,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, you didn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes I did Danny.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You claimed two people signed your contract and didn't live up to
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>>>> That's as close to YOUR imaginary story as our cases get. I am
>>>>>> still waiting for YOUR evidence to the contrary
>>>>
>>>>> I simply asked you a question, kenny boy.
>>>>
>>>> Sullivan you NEVER "simply ask a question." Implied in your
>>>> questions are the answers.
>>
>>> A perception of yours fueled by your paranoia.
>>
>> No, Danny, fueld by your pattern of behavior. You make all sorts of
>> claims about me to TRY to rehabilitate your shitty reputation. You NOW
>> claim to know "LOTS" of people who have done that,
> I didn't claim I know them. I claimed I know OF them.
PROVE IT Sullivan. YOU ARE A BULLSHITTER! You are making it up which is
OBV IOUS by your tap dancing.
>>>>> I didn't invent an imaginary story.
>>
>>>> Sure you did. You said you had "CAUSE" to ask it, implying you HAD
>>>> information that i *have* had MANY such clients. At least more than one
>>>> because YOU used the PLURAL.
>>
>>> grag raised the issue of your clients reneging on your contract and you
>>> admitted a number had. Complain about him.
>>
>> No, Danny, Greg mentioned ONE guy who dishonored his contract. Which
>> is as close to what YOU claim as there is. YOUI have made a FACT claim
>> that there are LOTS of people who have backed out after hiring me.
> Chose to terminate your "services."
NAME THEM! BUT you can't, can you?
Dan Sullivan
> DS > No mention of a contract.
>
> Did you think Ken works without a CONTRACT?
Of course not.
Whenever I need a laugh I read all the crap on his websites.
And then I pray that anyone who needs help sees kenny boy for the mega
bullshitter that he is.
Besides he'd never get paid if he didn't have a contract.
Why do you think kenny boy has "In every case the first $3,500 is
automatically earned upon receipt for opening case file and review of
materials." posted the fee schedule page of his website?
So at least he clears $3500 for opening his mail.
krp
>>> You've done more to tear yourself down than anyone I've ever had the
>>> misfortune to come in contact with.
>>
>> But the point here is, Danny, your scurrilous allegations you CLAIM to
>> be FACT, but which you just make up.
> That's not even a sentence.
You can't answer, can you? You make FACT C LAIMS and offer squat as
proof. Peouple are just supposed to believe it becaue the GREAT Danny
Sullivan says so, right Danny boy?
>> You claim you know of "LOTS OF PEOPLE" who have backed out.
> I know there are a lot of people who ceased using your services before
> their case was resolved.
NAMES, DATES, PLACES Danny. PUT UP OR SHUT UP! NAME THEM DANNY!
krp
> DS > No mention of a contract.
>
> Did you think Ken works without a CONTRACT?
>
> Has there ever been a civil suit for breach of contract?
I am SURE Danny will claim he knows of "LOTS OF THEM." Don't hold your
breat waiting for any specifics.
> KRP > It's just the way a DESPERATE little faker
> KRP > (YOU) try to hoodwink people into thinking
> KRP > YOU are an EXPERT and you have FACTS,
> KRP > when in truth all you have is the wind you create.
>
> [...]
> DS > Of course there are some, kenny boy.
> DS > There are a LOT!!!
> You can't even name one, yet you assert
> MANY. Typical of Dan Sullivan.
That's because Sullivan is a bullshit artist and MADE UP his claims. How
many times now have I asked - NAMES - DATES - PLACES only to have Danny do
the tango? The simple reality here is that Danny is LYING again. Poor
desperate Sullivan.
krp
>>>>>> Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
>>>>>> out of a contract for Ken's services?
>>>>> No, but I never claimed anyone did.
>>>> You are such a SLIMEBALL, Sullivan. You do this constantly. If you
>>>> had NO REASON to ask (NO FACTS) when WHY did you bring it up?
>>> I didn't bring up the subject of someone backing out of your contract,
>>> kenny boy, grag did.
>
>> YOU brought up clients ceasing use of our services. PROVE IT
>> Slimeball.
> Why do I need to prove it when you've admitted it was true, kenny boy?
Sullivan you are full of shit. I didn't admit any such thing, You claim
there are "A LOT OF THEM" let's start seeing some names DANNY BOY! Come on
liar. NAMES - DATES- PLACES, you CLAIM you know of them. PROVE IT and stop
your tap dancing.
Dan Sullivan
You need me to name them when you've already admitted there were AT LEAST
TWO people who reneged on their contracts????
How about the number of people who terminated your services without reneging
on the contract before their case was resolved?
How many??
krp
>
> "Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2049efb6-b434-4bfd...@g1g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>> DS > No mention of a contract.
>>
>> Did you think Ken works without a CONTRACT?
>
> Of course not.
>
> Whenever I need a laugh I read all the crap on his websites.
>
> And then I pray that anyone who needs help sees kenny boy for the mega
> bullshitter that he is.
But at least *I*n can NAME NAMES.
> Besides he'd never get paid if he didn't have a contract.
> Why do you think kenny boy has "In every case the first $3,500 is
> automatically earned upon receipt for opening case file and review of
> materials." posted the fee schedule page of his website?
> So at least he clears $3500 for opening his mail.
And YOU earn what, Danny?
Dan Sullivan
>
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4a520b69$0$31271$607e...@cv.net...
>
>>>> You've done more to tear yourself down than anyone I've ever had the
>>>> misfortune to come in contact with.
>>>
>>> But the point here is, Danny, your scurrilous allegations you CLAIM
>>> to be FACT, but which you just make up.
>
>> That's not even a sentence.
>
> You can't answer, can you?
You didn't ask a question.
In fact, you didn't write a complete sentence.
>
krp
In 33 years. But you have made the CLAIM that there are "A LOT OF THEM."
NAME NAMES Danny, or keep on dancing.
> How about the number of people who terminated your services without
> reneging on the contract before their case was resolved? How many??
You claim there is "A LOT OF THEM" how about some FACTS, Danny boy as
opposed to your verbal flatulence. NAMES, DATES, PLACES.
Oh Danny they are playing YOUR SONG from the Captain & Tennille; "KEEP ON
DANCING!" Dance monkey boy, DANCED and keep on BULLSHITTING!
Dan Sullivan
I didn't say you "earned" the $3500, kenny boy.
I said you cleared it.
krp
>>
>>>>> You've done more to tear yourself down than anyone I've ever had the
>>>>> misfortune to come in contact with.
>>>>
>>>> But the point here is, Danny, your scurrilous allegations you CLAIM
>>>> to be FACT, but which you just make up.
>>
>>> That's not even a sentence.
>>
>> You can't answer, can you?
>
> You didn't ask a question.
Name the LOTS of people you CLAIM (falsely) to KNOW cancelled our services.
NAMES , DATES, PLACES, Danny or KEEP ON DANCING!
krp
Dancing to the Captain & Tennile)
>>>> DS > No mention of a contract.
>>>>
>>>> Did you think Ken works without a CONTRACT?
>>>
>>> Of course not.
>>>
>>> Whenever I need a laugh I read all the crap on his websites.
>>>
>>> And then I pray that anyone who needs help sees kenny boy for the mega
>>> bullshitter that he is.
>>
>> But at least *I*n can NAME NAMES.
>>
>>> Besides he'd never get paid if he didn't have a contract.
>>
>>> Why do you think kenny boy has "In every case the first $3,500 is
>>> automatically earned upon receipt for opening case file and review of
>>> materials." posted the fee schedule page of his website?
>>> So at least he clears $3500 for opening his mail.
>>
>> And YOU earn what, Danny?
> I didn't say you "earned" the $3500, kenny boy. I said you cleared it.
Danny you are a sanctimonious lump of cow droppings. NAME YOUR
SOURCES........... David Moore doesn't count! He was never a client. Name
somebody REAL, Danny.
OR KEEP ON DANCING!
whitevamp
> DAVID MOORE AS "JEFFY" the weenie"Jeff" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
>
> news:d4fedd5f9f035d09...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
>
>
>
> >>> > > Kennie I can show where you used very graphic words about a
> >>> > > jackhammer on someone's head.
>
> >>> >http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/488608.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=B2A...
>
> >>> > > You bullshited about it being a figure
> >>> > > of speech but it was clearly a image full
> >>> > > of violence aimed at a woman.
>
> >>> > Wouldn't you have to prove you're a woman?
>
> >>> MOE> His jackhammer comment wasn't aimed at me greg.
>
> >>> Who was it "aimed" at Moe?????
>
> >>MOE> You damn well know whom it was aimed at Kennie. You also know she is
> >>MOE> currently dealing with some serious crap in her life and doesn' t
> >>MOE> have time to deal with your garbage against her.
>
> >> Too bad her personal e-mails TO me don't indicate what YOU scream
> >> about
> >>at all.
>
> >>MOE> A graphic depiction of a jackhammer against a human head is an
> >>MOE> obvious threat, no matter how you try to deny it to cover your fat
> >>ass.
>
> >> ONLY to a PSYCHO who HAS to take things literally because she is so
> >> far
> >>over the mental line as a FEMINAZI she HAS to view it that way. The person
> >>in question did NOT take it that way and you and your psycho pal Moore are
> >>about the ONLY kooks who have. The woman admits she is HARD HEADED at
> >>times.
> >>TOO BAD YOU CANNOT!
>
> >>> MOE> The fact still remains your master Kennie made TWO posts about
> >>> violence to the head
> >>> MOE> of another poster. The gender of the person he was attacking is of
> >>> no
> >>> MOE> consequence. It is the fact that he made the threats in the first
> >>> MOE> place.
>
> >>> Seems that the person I made the comment to did NOT take it as the
> >>> threat that YOU do!
>
> >>MOE> She had more important things in her REAL LIFE to deal with than a
> >>MOE> shit head online making a threat. Right now you are not important to
> >>MOE> her to deal with filing criminal charges against you.
>
> >> Do you think you are her spokesperson Moe? She and I have NO problems
> >>between us. It is ALL in your twisted head.
>
> >>>You seem to NEED to construe things that way. Actually
> >>> it was directed that the person is "hard headed" which she admits
> >>> herself.
> >>> Oh Moe the GENDER has EVERYTHING to do with iot for a NUT CASE like YOU!
> >>> Needless to say, YOU are wrapped pretty tight on gender issues.
>
> >>MOE> Threatening to apply a jackhammer against a human head is not a
> >>MOE> gender issue. Its a threat of bodily harm issue.
>
> >> ONLY if you are INSANE enough to take the comment literally! Bet you
> >> are
> >>one of those who REALLY believed that David Letterman was suggesting that
> >>Sarah Palin's daughter be RAPED too, it is ALL in YOUR mind Moe. It is
> >>how
> >>YOU think.
>
> >>> MOE> I have a hard time believing thatyou are so dumb you don't see the
> >>> obvious about Kenneth Pangborn.
>
> >>> What's so obvious? Because I disagree with YOUR extremist BULLSHIT -
> >>> that I hate women? You can never accept it as just disagreement with
> >>> your
> >>> polemics.
>
> >>MOE> I was talking to Greg, not to you Kennie. Have a problem with Greg
> >>MOE> answering for himself about you? Afraid your puppet might wake up on
> >>MOE> what you are actually doing to him?
>
> >> Get something straight Maureen. When you TALK about me, I reserve the
> >>right to answedr your INSANE BULLSHIT or NOT as *I* choose. GOT THAT?
>
> >>> Feminazis are such simple minded creatures. IF you had even a small
> >>> amount of brain you would have KNOWN that the original of that "make
> >>> money"
> >>> post were places in newsgroups that I cannot read or post DIRECTLY to. I
> >>> can
> >>> ONLY corsspost there. It was deliberately placed where the COWARD
> >>> believe
> >>> I
> >>> would never see it or somebody would have to show it to me. You are too
> >>> stupid to know that Moore has a 10 year HISTORY of doint that kind of
> >>> thing.
> >>> But you are so WHACKED in the head you can't see what is before you.
>
> >>MOE> You are capable of seeing the posts yourself so stop the BULLSHIT
> >>MOE> Kennie. You saw them because you originated the posts , you liar.
>
> >> Maureen you are always so charming. I think your mother must have been
> >> a
> >>rattlesnake. NO, Maureen. Verizon has droppedd access to ALL alt.
> >>newsgroups. I only SAW it because somebody fed me a GOOGLE link to David's
> >>handiwork.
>
> >>MOE> And BTW if " Moore" supposedly posted it as you wish us to believe,
> >>MOE> why would he post it where you COULD find it on usenet, an area where
> >>MOE> you damn near live in online, rather than, say, some anarchist list
> >>MOE> elsewhere or something? You give " Moore" credit for being devious
> >>and
> >>MOE> cunning and yet you want to claim he would so something THAT stupid?
>
> >> Moe as I have repeatedly said, YOU are a DULLARD. Moore counted on
> >> Greg
> >>or someone alerting me to his latest insanity. So he can PLAY innocent.
> >>Moore posts LOTS of shit I never see at all, but sometimes it gets to me
> >>when a detective shows at my door. He is a PROLIFIC little author
> >>ESPECIALLY
> >>in deviant sexual issue chat rooms. When his INSANE shit gets to a level
> >>to
> >>draw sufficient law enforcement attention they talk to me about it and
> >>show
> >>me Davey's latest poetry. We all KNOW that Moore doesn't have the stones
> >>to
> >>every carry out ANY of his threats. But they are aware of Davey's pal
> >>JEFFY.
> > Bring them on. You've been threatening this for 10 years, kook.
>
> Waiting for you to show up again outside my house. Come on JEFFY - - -
> er DAVEY - - knock on the door. Have some STONES for a change.
Question:
Who'd WANT to visit your obese ass Kennie?
Is that what this " game" you and Greg are pulling all about? To
manipulate people into being angry enough at you to take this
stupidity of yours to the real world level?
Or do you believe that in all these years of your online shit since
no one has come to you for a personal visit about your crap no one
will, so you do this grandiose posturing act as some set-up for your
boated ego?
By your own recent posts you think those that criticize you are akin
to Pavlov's dogs and you are Pavlov, implying that your intentions is
to " control" your online targets with your little " game". Does it
amuse you to deliberately try to piss people off while you hide behind
your computer from immediate repercussions of your crap?
Instead of participating in actual discussions you and your bitch boy
Greg try to draw in various newsgroups for your "game" to satisfy
some sadistic bully spirit within your rotted souls.
I almost pity you two. Instead of doing something constructive and
being an asset to people around you by volunteering or similar, you
two slugs do this online.
Moe
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
whitevamp
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:32a9f5d1-052b-4978...@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 2, 12:21 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:a710f5a5-0331-4920...@24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > MOE> So alt.support.child-protective-services is NOT one or your usual
> > MOE> usenet groups? Running out of room to lie again Kennie?
>
> > Maureen it seems every day you feel obliged to TOP the previous day's
> > level of your stupidity. I cannot READ ASCPS and can ONLY crosspost to it.
> > Something WAAAAYYYYY too technical for a DUNCE like YOU to grasp.
>
> MOE> And, as you damn well know, Verizon is NOT a newsreader program but
> MOE> it is a wireless service.
>
> Are you INSANE Maureen? Maureen you take your STUPIDITY to a whole new
> plateau! Yes, Verizon has a wireless service. YOU FRIGGING IDIOT. They also
> are an ISP, and I have Verizon FIOS.
The point is Kennie you CLAIM you can't read alt groups, Yet you post
to them a lot.
I know the difference from an ISP and a newsreader Kennie. Quit
pretending you don't know. Your excuse about Verizon not allowing you
to read certain newsgroups is a LIE and you know as well as I do you
CAN read and POST to the alt newsgroups.
BTW Kennie if Verizon doesn't allow you to read alt newsgroups as you
claim then it also wouldn't allow you to POST to alt newsgroups. And
yet to do post to alts.
Whoopsie Kennie!!! Caught in ANOTHER LIE!!!!!!!!
whitevamp
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:344354be-de6c-4fb4...@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
> > out of a contract for Ken's services?
>
> No, but I never claimed anyone did.
>
> 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
Kennie has a problem answering direct and specific questions. That's
why he's trained Greg to be his patsy and uses him to help divert the
subject away when it becomes too hot or uncomfortable for Kennie to
deal with.
whitevamp
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:344354be-de6c-4fb4...@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
> > out of a contract for Ken's services?
>
>
> > Are you an expert on CONTRACT LAW now too, Dan?
>
> Well Greg, Danny believes he is the foremost authority on contract law.
> suggests he HAS information that people should know about me. Sullivan is
> KING of the innuendo. Danny is so DESPERATE to recapture his little kingdom
> (ascps) that he goes from absurd suggestion to absurd suggesting trying to
> challenged him to document his suggestions. As before his answer is "I NEVER
> SAID YOU DID." Then WHY bring it up? In short, Sullivan is showing how he
> operates. It is a consistent pattern, in the end we always get back to
> Sullivan TRYING to rehab his ruined reputation by attacking others. He
> needn't worry, he always has MOE, Kent Wills and David Moore on his side.
> The rogues gallery.
I'd rather be a " rogue" than what you and Greg are Kennie.
whitevamp
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>
>
>
>
> > "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:344354be-de6c-4fb4...@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> >> Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
> >> out of a contract for Ken's services?
>
> SAGGESTS the answer. It's just the way a DESPERATE little faker (YOU) tries
> to hoodwink people into thinking YOU are an EXPERT and you have FACTS, when
> in truth all you have is the wind you create.
Projection noted.
" SAGGESTS"?
>
> > My question is "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your
> > 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
>
> The question implies the answer, Sullivan, that you have PROOF that
> there ARE some. You don't, you are just making it up in your desperation.
Diversion away from answering the question directly noted.
Whatsamatter Kennie? Afraid something might be hitting real close to
the TRUTH about you?
whitevamp
Well Kennie IS a drama queen.......
Dan Sullivan
Express Mail.
And kenny boy declined the President's personal invitation to the
Inauguration because he was busy.
> Keep entertaining us all with your "stories".
They're not my stories, they're kennies.
> Laughter is indeed the best medicine.
And kenny doesn't let up.
Either he's blatantly lying or he's making a fool of himself.
A never ending source of amusement.
krp
"whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3f3501bd-16c3-4d25...@37g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 3, 8:58 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:32a9f5d1-052b-4978...@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 2, 12:21 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:a710f5a5-0331-4920...@24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > MOE> So alt.support.child-protective-services is NOT one or your usual
> > MOE> usenet groups? Running out of room to lie again Kennie?
>
> > Maureen it seems every day you feel obliged to TOP the previous day's
> > level of your stupidity. I cannot READ ASCPS and can ONLY crosspost to
> > it.
> > Something WAAAAYYYYY too technical for a DUNCE like YOU to grasp.
>
> MOE> And, as you damn well know, Verizon is NOT a newsreader program but
> MOE> it is a wireless service.
>
> Are you INSANE Maureen? Maureen you take your STUPIDITY to a whole new
> plateau! Yes, Verizon has a wireless service. YOU FRIGGING IDIOT. They
> also
> are an ISP, and I have Verizon FIOS.
MOE> The point is Kennie you CLAIM you can't read alt groups, Yet you post
MOE> to them a lot.
CROSS POST, Maureen. They can't block crossposts yet.
krp
> > My question is "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your
> > 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
> The question implies the answer, Sullivan, that you have PROOF that
> there ARE some. You don't, you are just making it up in your desperation.
MOE> Diversion away from answering the question directly noted.
MOE> Whatsamatter Kennie? Afraid something might be hitting real close to
MOE> the TRUTH about you?
My answer was direct and to the point. Sullivan is LYING! Otherwise he'd
be posting FACTS instead of tap dancing faster than Bill Bojangles Robinson.
krp
On Jul 5, 9:51 pm, "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
> > out of a contract for Ken's services?
>
> No, but I never claimed anyone did.
>
> My question is "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your
> 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
MOE> Kennie has a problem answering direct and specific questions.
I have answered repeatedly. Sullivan is LYING! How much more clear do I
have to be?
krp
"Dan Sullivan" <dansu...@usa.com> wrote in message
news:f01204dd-a90f-4002...@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
DJS> Either he's blatantly lying or he's making a fool of himself.
So Danny, WHEN are you going to give us some NAMES, DATES, and PLACES of
those "LOTS" of people who have ceased using my services as YOU falsely
claim? The 12th of NEVER!
Keep on Dancing Danny!
Dan Sullivan
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:086f37e8-80f1-4afa...@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 5, 9:51 pm, "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
> > > out of a contract for Ken's services?
>
> > No, but I never claimed anyone did.
>
> > My question is "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your
> > 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
>
> MOE> Kennie has a problem answering direct and specific questions.
>
> I have answered repeatedly.
So far you've failed to answer my question "How many of your clients
have chosen to cease using your 'services' before their case was
resolved, pangborn?"
Answer that truthfully, kenny boy, and we'll talk about my sources.
krp
> > "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
> > > out of a contract for Ken's services?
>
> > No, but I never claimed anyone did.
>
> > My question is "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your
> > 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
>
> MOE> Kennie has a problem answering direct and specific questions.
>
> I have answered repeatedly.
DJS> So far you've failed to answer my question "How many of your clients
DJS> have chosen to cease using your 'services' before their case was
DJS> resolved, pangborn?"
DJS> Answer that truthfully, kenny boy, and we'll talk about my sources.
I did answer. the answer is that your claim that I have had "a lot of
clients who did so" is a LIE. That's your answer. YOU made it UP. YOU ARE
LYING. Now NAMES, DATES, PLACES.
Keep on dancing Danny.
Dan Sullivan
>
> "Dan Sullivan" <dansu...@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:05cf749b-8cde-4106...@h31g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>> > "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > > Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
>> > > out of a contract for Ken's services?
>>
>> > No, but I never claimed anyone did.
>>
>> > My question is "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using
>> > your
>> > 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
>>
>> MOE> Kennie has a problem answering direct and specific questions.
>>
>> I have answered repeatedly.
>
> DJS> So far you've failed to answer my question "How many of your clients
> DJS> have chosen to cease using your 'services' before their case was
> DJS> resolved, pangborn?"
>
> DJS> Answer that truthfully, kenny boy, and we'll talk about my sources.
>
> I did answer.
Liar.
> the answer is that your claim that I have had "a lot of clients who did
> so" is a LIE. That's your answer.
That's not an answer to the question.
> YOU made it UP.
Not true.
I have sources that I won't name because you'll just harass them.
whitevamp
Then he should HAVE the invitation to post on his Photobucket page.
Gee,wonder why he hasn't done so........ :-D
>
> > Keep entertaining us all with your "stories".
>
> They're not my stories, they're kennies.
And Kennie is a horrid storyteller.
>
> > Laughter is indeed the best medicine.
>
> And kenny doesn't let up.
Because he is obsessive compulsive. Had he exerted the same amount of
energy on real world matters as he does here, he could have made
something of himself rather than be the nothing that he currently is.
>
> Either he's blatantly lying or he's making a fool of himself.
How about both?
>
> A never ending source of amusement.
Village fools and idiots can be amusing.
whitevamp
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
You never answered his question Kennie. Thatis quite clear.
Hiding anything Kennie?
mmrpurdue
>
> - Show quoted text -
my apoligies, I did direct that at kkken but failed to make that clear.
krp
>>>
>>> > My question is "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using
>>> > your
>>> > 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
>>>
>>> MOE> Kennie has a problem answering direct and specific questions.
>>>
>>> I have answered repeatedly.
>>
>> DJS> So far you've failed to answer my question "How many of your clients
>> DJS> have chosen to cease using your 'services' before their case was
>> DJS> resolved, pangborn?"
>>
>> DJS> Answer that truthfully, kenny boy, and we'll talk about my sources.
>>
>> I did answer.
>
> Liar.
>
>> the answer is that your claim that I have had "a lot of clients who did
>> so" is a LIE. That's your answer.
>
> That's not an answer to the question.
>
>> YOU made it UP.
>
> Not true.
>
> I have sources that I won't name because you'll just harass them.
AHA! In other words your claims are BULLSHIT. Okay, omit NAMES, dates and
places, Danny. Let me call your BLUFF. DANCE ON DANNY!
krp
> > > Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
> > > out of a contract for Ken's services?
>
> > No, but I never claimed anyone did.
>
> > My question is "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your
> > 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
>
> MOE> Kennie has a problem answering direct and specific questions.
>
> I have answered repeatedly. Sullivan is LYING! How much more clear do I
> have to be?
MOE THJE SUPID> You never answered his question Kennie. That is quite
clear.
Sure I have. The only answer Sullivan merits is to say that he is LYING
about hios claim. Note how he RUNS from giving ANY proof.
MOE THE IMBECILE> Hiding anything Kennie?
Nothing to hide Maureen. Your pal Sullivan is LYING! That IS an answer.
Dan Sullivan
I'm using the identical excuse you use, kenny boy, for not naming the
Universities where you supposedly earned your degrees.
Greegor
Does the Rede say anything about
being responsible for contracts you
committed to?
Dan Sullivan
Which contracts are you referring to, grag?
whitevamp
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5433723f-1f13-4127...@b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
> > > > out of a contract for Ken's services?
>
> > > No, but I never claimed anyone did.
>
> > > My question is "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using your
> > > 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
>
> > MOE> Kennie has a problem answering direct and specific questions.
>
> > I have answered repeatedly. Sullivan is LYING! How much more clear do I
> > have to be?
>
> MOE THJE SUPID> You never answered his question Kennie. That is quite
> clear.
>
> Sure I have. The only answer Sullivan merits is to say that he is LYING
> about hios claim. Note how he RUNS from giving ANY proof.
Like you never show proof for YOUR claims Kennie?
BTW nice misspellings. "THJE", "SUPID" and "hios".
>
> MOE THE INCREDIBLE> Hiding anything Kennie?
>
> Nothing to hide Maureen. Your pal Sullivan is LYING! That IS an answer.
You are a well known liar Kennie. Of the two of you I would think
the actual liar is you not Sullivan. If you actually were using logic
and some intelligence here, you would see that Sullivan never said
anything you are trying to claim he said. In fact, your reaction to
him is amusingly overdone.
When you do your drama queer act, its often because you have
something to hide.
You don't deny charging #3,500 for what is in essence sorting mail
and papers, nothing extra for your clients. A fee that IMO is
excessive and when your clients are fathers desperate to get their
children back, your excessive fees are incredibly cruel and callous.
I can see some of your clients dropping you when they realize you are
ripping them off.
whitevamp
What contracts?
Oh I see, you want to try to twist this about your master Kennie and
his clients, right? Whatsamatter Kennie, you can't speak for yourself
so you let Greg try this crap now?
Were any of Kennie's clients Wiccan?
When any client of Kennie's realized Pangborn is screwing them
financially and giving them nothing of value in return, what are they
to do?
The Rede is only relevant to Kennie's screwing his clients if either
Kennie or his clients are Wiccans. And thank the Lord and Lady Kennie
is Catholic.
Since you don't know what the Rede IS, Greg, your question is just
another game you are trying on me.
krp
On Jul 6, 9:47 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
VAMPIRA> When any client of Kennie's realized Pangborn is screwing them
VAMPIRA> financially and giving them nothing of value in return, what are
they to do?
You maker all sorts of claims there Maureen. Care to PROVE any of them ?
krp
On Jul 6, 7:41 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5433723f-1f13-4127...@b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > Dan, Can you NAME anybody who backed
> > > > out of a contract for Ken's services?
>
> > > No, but I never claimed anyone did.
>
> > > My question is "How many of your clients have chosen to cease using
> > > your
> > > 'services' before their case was resolved, pangborn?"
>
> > MOE> Kennie has a problem answering direct and specific questions.
>
> > I have answered repeatedly. Sullivan is LYING! How much more clear do I
> > have to be?
>
> clear.
>
> Sure I have. The only answer Sullivan merits is to say that he is LYING
> about hios claim. Note how he RUNS from giving ANY proof.
Like you never show proof for YOUR claims Kennie?
VAMPIRA> BTW nice misspellings. "THJE", "SUPID" and "hios".
Rather OBVIOUS typos Maureen.