How Does It Feel To Be A 'Human Commodity?
Sentinel
How Does It Feel To Be A 'Human Commodity?
2008-01-01
True wealth lies in the scarcity of one's wants-as opposed to the
abundance of one's possessions.
by Chris Maser
We, as a society, are losing sight of one another as human
beings-witness the Wall-Street money chase in which numerous, large
corporations discount human value as they increasingly convert people
into faceless commodities that are bought and sold on a whim to
improve the corporate standing in the competitive marketplace. After
all, market share translates into political power, which translates
into higher profit margins, both of which exacerbate the corporate
disregard for people, the rampant destruction of Nature, and the
squandering of natural resources.
There was a time when people were valued for what they were as
individuals. Although American workers have long had an enforced
workweek of 40 hours, there currently is an insidious infringement
into personal life due to pagers and cell phones, which allow
corporations to "own" employees 24 hours a day. Businesses seem to
have no moral compunctions about calling employees whenever they
choose-"for the good of the company." For those who would choose to
live by the corporate proverb, "for the good of the company," the
Families and Work Institute said that in 2001 employees are more
likely to:
* lose sleep
* have physical and emotional health problems
* make mistakes on the job
* feel and express anger at employers
* resent co-workers who they perceive are not pulling their weight
* look for different jobs
Because consumption and consumerism dominate social discourse and
political agendas of all parties, consumerism hogs the limelight at
center stage as the prime objective of Western industrialized
societies, which, in the collective, are known as "consumer
societies." Within these consumer societies, the purpose of
consumption is: variety, distraction from daily stresses, pleasure,
power, and the status that one hopes will bring with them a measure of
happiness and social security. None of this comes to pass, however,
because people themselves are increasingly seen as economic
commodities. How can a commodity find security from another commodity?
In this sense, the marketplace satisfies only temporarily our
collective neuroses, while hiding the values that give true meaning to
human life.9
Author James B. Twitchell puts it nicely: "Once we are fed and
sheltered, our needs are and have always been cultural, not natural.
Until there is some other system to codify and satisfy those needs and
yearnings, commercialism [consumerism]-and the culture it carries with
it-will continue not just to thrive but to triumph."*
Continue...
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18977.htm
*While benefitting from one's efforts cannot be said to be inherently
evil, and can actually be quite just; corporations are not individuals
and the decisions they make are totally devoid of the considerations
of an individual; serving only to further profit at any price. In
other words, while an individual's ethical system may hold any number
of things as a supreme value, a corporation's supreme value has to be
profit; because that is its precondition for survival.
Two notable examples of this are the fact that many corporations that
notoriously pollute the environment will move manufacturing facilities
to countries with fewer environmental regulations rather than invest
the money to comply with stricter regulations in their home country.
Likewise, corporations have no loyalty to the people of the nation in
which they were formed, and seek to reduce the cost of labor through
any legal method, which increasingly puts the people in Western
nations in direct competition with low wage or even slave labor in the
Third World; with devastating long term effects in terms of both
national wealth and labor displacements. Corporations even sponsor the
importation of alien labor, forcing domestic wages lower, stressing
social service systems, and placing the genetic continuity of the
domestic population at risk. All for a profit.
These examples, again, show no difference between Capitalism and
Bolshevism in that, in the end, both systems have the same effects and
therefore only differ in methodology. Legislation in Capitalist
systems serves to create de-facto state enterprises in important
sectors such as media and electricity, while pollution, wage
depression and globalization without regard to cultural preservation
or preservation of human bio-diversity work the same in both
instances. -- John Young, EAU
Lawrence Glickman
<yaxc...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>How Does It Feel To Be A 'Human Commodity?
>
>2008-01-01
>
>True wealth lies in the scarcity of one's wants-as opposed to the
>abundance of one's possessions.
>
>by Chris Maser
>
>We, as a society, are losing sight of one another as human
>beings-witness the Wall-Street money chase in which numerous, large
>corporations discount human value as they increasingly convert people
>into faceless commodities that are bought and sold on a whim to
>improve the corporate standing in the competitive marketplace.
MOST corporations do this, and a certain percentage of *turnover* in
the employee pool is _expected_. Nothing new going on here. It's
been that way for as long as I can remember (and that is a long time).
> After
>all, market share translates into political power, which translates
>into higher profit margins, both of which exacerbate the corporate
>disregard for people, the rampant destruction of Nature, and the
>squandering of natural resources.
>
>There was a time when people were valued for what they were as
>individuals.
I'm 62, and I can't remember when that was; when people were valued
for what they were as individuals. For me, it's always been a case of
"how much money can this moke make for the company, vs. how much are
we paying him for salary"
> Although American workers have long had an enforced
>workweek of 40 hours, there currently is an insidious infringement
>into personal life due to pagers and cell phones, which allow
>corporations to "own" employees 24 hours a day. Businesses seem to
>have no moral compunctions about calling employees whenever they
>choose-"for the good of the company."
When I was in the workforce, we called them electronic dog leashes.
> For those who would choose to
>live by the corporate proverb, "for the good of the company," the
>Families and Work Institute said that in 2001 employees are more
>likely to:
>
> * lose sleep
> * have physical and emotional health problems
> * make mistakes on the job
> * feel and express anger at employers
> * resent co-workers who they perceive are not pulling their weight
> * look for different jobs
Too true
>Because consumption and consumerism dominate social discourse and
>political agendas of all parties, consumerism hogs the limelight at
>center stage as the prime objective of Western industrialized
>societies, which, in the collective, are known as "consumer
>societies." Within these consumer societies, the purpose of
>consumption is: variety, distraction from daily stresses, pleasure,
>power, and the status that one hopes will bring with them a measure of
>happiness and social security. None of this comes to pass, however,
>because people themselves are increasingly seen as economic
>commodities. How can a commodity find security from another commodity?
You can't. My boss told me "If you want a paycheck, come to work. If
you want Love, buy a dog." and that's a direct quote.
>In this sense, the marketplace satisfies only temporarily our
>collective neuroses, while hiding the values that give true meaning to
>human life.9
I have all I could want and then some, except for some pistols that
I've been looking at for too many years now. I want a Desert Eagle in
.50 caliber. Stainless Steel thank you. And IIRC, it is about $1,000
US
I will have that money inside the next couple/few years, as a
*settlement* arrives for a certain medical issue.
>Author James B. Twitchell puts it nicely: "Once we are fed and
>sheltered, our needs are and have always been cultural, not natural.
>Until there is some other system to codify and satisfy those needs and
>yearnings, commercialism [consumerism]-and the culture it carries with
>it-will continue not just to thrive but to triumph."*
>
>Continue...
>
>http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18977.htm
>
>*While benefitting from one's efforts cannot be said to be inherently
>evil, and can actually be quite just; corporations are not individuals
>and the decisions they make are totally devoid of the considerations
>of an individual; serving only to further profit at any price.
Welcome to the Real World
> In
>other words, while an individual's ethical system may hold any number
>of things as a supreme value, a corporation's supreme value has to be
>profit; because that is its precondition for survival.
and always has been
>Two notable examples of this are the fact that many corporations that
>notoriously pollute the environment will move manufacturing facilities
>to countries with fewer environmental regulations rather than invest
>the money to comply with stricter regulations in their home country.
They've been doing this for decades.
>Likewise, corporations have no loyalty to the people of the nation in
>which they were formed, and seek to reduce the cost of labor through
>any legal method, which increasingly puts the people in Western
>nations in direct competition with low wage or even slave labor in the
>Third World; with devastating long term effects in terms of both
>national wealth and labor displacements.
They've been doing this for decades.
> Corporations even sponsor the
>importation of alien labor, forcing domestic wages lower, stressing
>social service systems, and placing the genetic continuity of the
>domestic population at risk. All for a profit.
Corporations Exist to make a profit.
>These examples, again, show no difference between Capitalism and
>Bolshevism in that, in the end, both systems have the same effects and
>therefore only differ in methodology. Legislation in Capitalist
>systems serves to create de-facto state enterprises in important
>sectors such as media and electricity, while pollution, wage
>depression and globalization without regard to cultural preservation
>or preservation of human bio-diversity work the same in both
>instances. -- John Young, EAU
You're showing up a half-century late and $100 short for the train
ticket out of here.
Lg
Neolibertarian
<17f08f9d-a4f4-417b...@r60g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
Sentinel <yaxc...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> How Does It Feel To Be A 'Human Commodity?
>
> 2008-01-01
>
> True wealth lies in the scarcity of one's wants-as opposed to the
> abundance of one's possessions.
>
> by Chris Maser
>
> We, as a society, are losing sight of one another as human
> beings-witness the Wall-Street money chase in which numerous, large
> corporations discount human value as they increasingly convert people
> into faceless commodities that are
We're not going to trade our freedom for your utopia.
--
NeoLibertarian
Avenger
"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2ojtn3pec1djkvgh0...@4ax.com...
Looks like Glickman is forming his own jew defence league. He sees the
writing on the wall :o)
I want a Desert Eagle in
> .50 caliber. Stainless Steel thank you. And IIRC, it is about $1,000
> US
Glickman you'll hurt yourself with that thing lol
>
> I will have that money inside the next couple/few years
It takes you a few years to buy a $1k gun? lol
, as a
> *settlement* arrives for a certain medical issue.
You mean the insurance company is paying you for falling out of your tree?
Lawrence Glickman
wrote:
> I want a Desert Eagle in
>> .50 caliber. Stainless Steel thank you. And IIRC, it is about $1,000
>> US
>
>Glickman you'll hurt yourself with that thing lol
It's a handful. Yeah maybe. I had a .44 Magnum Redhawk, and that was
like holding a Howitzer when it fired. I mean, at dusk you could see
4 feet of flames coming out of the muzzle, and a couple of feet coming
out the sides around the forcing cone to the barrel. Completely
kicked the gun up OVER your head.
And a badass bullet the .44 Magnum is with respect to terminal
ballistics. But rumor has it, the .50 is meaner, and I mean to find
out.
Lg
TheZ
"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:bfutn35i17lg4ikhv...@4ax.com...
B'injamin Cr'amer
> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:23:22 GMT, "Avenger" <ave...@avengers.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> I want a Desert Eagle in
>>> .50 caliber. Stainless Steel thank you. And IIRC, it is about $1,000
>>> US
>>
>>Glickman you'll hurt yourself with that thing lol
>
> It's a handful. Yeah maybe. I had a .44 Magnum Redhawk, and that was
> like holding a Howitzer when it fired.
You prove perfectly, the old addage of "The bigger the gun, the smaller the
penis."
Grow up silly little boy.
Lawrence Glickman
You've done this comparison? Then...present the evidence. Or go away
a liar.
Lg
B'injamin Cr'amer
I'm a psychologist, jew cunt.
"The bigger the gun, the smaller the penis" is well known.
>
> Lg
>
>
Lawrence Glickman
<yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>I'm a psychologist, jew cunt.
>
>"The bigger the gun, the smaller the penis" is well known.
First you say you're a psychologist, and then you PROVE you're not by
saying the bigger the gun, the smaller the penis.
Cramer...Crammit.
Lg
Professor Bugsbomb
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:48:01 +1000, "B'injamin Cr'amer"
> <yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:bfutn35i17lg4ikhv...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:23:22 GMT, "Avenger" <ave...@avengers.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I want a Desert Eagle in
>>>>> .50 caliber. Stainless Steel thank you. And IIRC, it is about $1,000
>>>>> US
>>>>
>>>>Glickman you'll hurt yourself with that thing lol
>>>
>>> It's a handful. Yeah maybe. I had a .44 Magnum Redhawk, and that was
>>> like holding a Howitzer when it fired.
Glickman just remember that we have Soviet made gyrojet pistols. Yours is a
pop gun compared with it :o)
http://files.uzitalk.com/images/usma/museum/gyrojet.jpg
Lawrence Glickman
<bu...@intherugs.org> wrote:
>
>"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:fa8un3l95onoh2fvj...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:48:01 +1000, "B'injamin Cr'amer"
>> <yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:bfutn35i17lg4ikhv...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:23:22 GMT, "Avenger" <ave...@avengers.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I want a Desert Eagle in
>>>>>> .50 caliber. Stainless Steel thank you. And IIRC, it is about $1,000
>>>>>> US
>>>>>
>>>>>Glickman you'll hurt yourself with that thing lol
>>>>
>>>> It's a handful. Yeah maybe. I had a .44 Magnum Redhawk, and that was
>>>> like holding a Howitzer when it fired.
>
>Glickman just remember that we have Soviet made gyrojet pistols. Yours is a
>pop gun compared with it :o)
>
>http://files.uzitalk.com/images/usma/museum/gyrojet.jpg
I have nothing against imported firearms. In fact, in many ways, I
think they are better than American Made.
I am planning on Israeli Desert Eagle, and Italian Baretta (where is
it made?). And maybe some other foreign stuff. But be _careful_ to
find out where it is made. I even had some CZ made pistols.
Excellent workmanship.
So you want russian. That's fine. Spend your money any way you want
to. Enjoy yourself, because Life is short.
Lg
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
> How Does It Feel To Be A 'Human Commodity?
I'd rather be an instrument of national policy.
B'injamin Cr'amer
Well known phenomenon, jew cunt.
B'injamin Cr'amer
If you're after quality, go for H & K or Walther.
Lawrence Glickman
<yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>
>"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:m27vn3p2bccrpmhnf...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 18:59:20 +1000, "B'injamin Cr'amer"
>> <yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm a psychologist, jew cunt.
>>>
>>>"The bigger the gun, the smaller the penis" is well known.
>>
>> First you say you're a psychologist, and then you PROVE you're not by
>> saying the bigger the gun, the smaller the penis.
>
>Well known phenomenon, jew cunt.
>
It is a well known MYTH.
You are a fraud.
Lg
Lawrence Glickman
<yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
Come on. Everybody knows Walther used to be good, but is now shit.
Well, almost everybody.
SIG is good.
Lg
zzbu...@netscape.net
> How Does It Feel To Be A 'Human Commodity?
>
> 2008-01-01
>
> True wealth lies in the scarcity of one's wants-as opposed to the
> abundance of one's possessions.
>
> by Chris Maser
>
> We, as a society, are losing sight of one another as human
> beings-witness the Wall-Street money chase in which numerous, large
> corporations discount human value as they increasingly convert people
> into faceless commodities that are bought and sold on a whim to
> improve the corporate standing in the competitive marketplace.
Well, that's why most people with educations more advanced
than 10th Grade have put the Corporate idiots on notice
than if you need any future work done, call Rupert Murdoch.
Since that's the only free advise you morons will ever be getting
from now until your idiot Virgin Mary comes to save your moron
asses.
Dr. Lippschitz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:bfutn35i17lg4ikhv...@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:23:22 GMT, "Avenger" <ave...@avengers.co.uk>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I want a Desert Eagle in
>>>>>>>>> .50 caliber. Stainless Steel thank you. And IIRC, it is about
>>>>>>>>> $1,000
>>>>>>>>> US
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Glickman you'll hurt yourself with that thing lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a handful. Yeah maybe. I had a .44 Magnum Redhawk, and that
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> like holding a Howitzer when it fired.
>>>>
>>>>Glickman just remember that we have Soviet made gyrojet pistols. Yours
>>>>is
>>>>a
>>>>pop gun compared with it :o)
>>>>
>>>>http://files.uzitalk.com/images/usma/museum/gyrojet.jpg
>>>
>>> I have nothing against imported firearms. In fact, in many ways, I
>>> think they are better than American Made.
>>>
>>> I am planning on Israeli Desert Eagle, and Italian Baretta (where is
>>> it made?).
It's made at their factory in Gardone Val Trompia since the 16th century.
Accept no israeli jew immitations lol
And maybe some other foreign stuff. But be _careful_ to
>>> find out where it is made. I even had some CZ made pistols.
>>> Excellent workmanship.
Hey be careful if it's made in israel, it might blow up on your face lol
>>
>>If you're after quality, go for H & K or Walther.
>>
>
> Come on. Everybody knows Walther used to be good, but is now shit.
> Well, almost everybody.
>
> SIG is good.
Glickman, we all know you have never even fired a Daisy BB gun haha
>
> Lg
>
B'injamin Cr'amer
Nope. I'm the expert, you're the lying yid.
>
> You are a fraud.
Nope. You're a lying yid.
>
> Lg
>
>
B'injamin Cr'amer
Can't trust the word of a yid.
Go ahead and buy your Desert Eagle bucket of puss, but be sure you order
plenty of spare return springs and slides.
B'injamin Cr'amer
"Dr. Lippschitz" <d...@yeshiva.il> wrote in message
news:BCXfj.436$Z61.306@trnddc07...
The Desert Eagles (at least the .44 magnums) did just that. Bad habit of
cracking slides.
Lawrence Glickman
<yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>
>"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:jd90o3ti3kdbq8tu9...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 09:48:58 +1000, "B'injamin Cr'amer"
>> <yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:m27vn3p2bccrpmhnf...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 18:59:20 +1000, "B'injamin Cr'amer"
>>>> <yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm a psychologist, jew cunt.
>>>>>
>>>>>"The bigger the gun, the smaller the penis" is well known.
>>>>
>>>> First you say you're a psychologist, and then you PROVE you're not by
>>>> saying the bigger the gun, the smaller the penis.
>>>
>>>Well known phenomenon, jew cunt.
>>>
>> It is a well known MYTH.
>
>Nope. I'm the expert, you're the lying yid.
>>
>> You are a fraud.
>
>Nope. You're a lying yid.
>
>
>>
>> Lg
>>
>>
FRAUD
FRAUD, LYING BASTARD.
PHONY
I graduated. You haven't even been enrolled yet. FRAUD ! PHONY!
Are you *practicing medicine without a license*?
Do you know what the penalty is for that?
Lg
Lawrence Glickman
wrote:
>Glickman, we all know you have never even fired a Daisy BB gun haha
You know that eh? You are suck a sick bastard, you belong in a cage.
Now that you have my address, why don't you come here and see the gun
collection I =don't= have, and the bullets I have that don't exist.
LIAR, Phony, FRAUD! You are all the same.
EVERY LIAR will now be killfiled. Not for any short term, but
forever. Because I believe that dishonesty is a mark of EVIL.
I will start with you Shit Lips. You're gone. As of this post, all
you incarnations are null and void.
To HELL with you.
Lg
Lawrence Glickman
<yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
Do you think I'm going to pay $1,000 for a pistol that is going to
fall apart on me? I'm doing research on it right now, on the Web. If
there are negative reports on them, it shouldn't take long to find out
about it.
Lg
Lawrence Glickman
The pistol is $1,800 US. And gets BAD REVIEWS at
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071220044031AAZOAcZ
Nevermind. No desert eagle.
Lg
B'injamin Cr'amer
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:28:50 +1000, "B'injamin Cr'amer"
> <yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:jd90o3ti3kdbq8tu9...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 09:48:58 +1000, "B'injamin Cr'amer"
>>> <yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:m27vn3p2bccrpmhnf...@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 18:59:20 +1000, "B'injamin Cr'amer"
>>>>> <yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm a psychologist, jew cunt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"The bigger the gun, the smaller the penis" is well known.
>>>>>
>>>>> First you say you're a psychologist, and then you PROVE you're not by
>>>>> saying the bigger the gun, the smaller the penis.
>>>>
>>>>Well known phenomenon, jew cunt.
>>>>
>>> It is a well known MYTH.
>>
>>Nope. I'm the expert, you're the lying yid.
>>>
>>> You are a fraud.
>>
>>Nope. You're a lying yid.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Lg
>>>
>>>
> FRAUD
>
> FRAUD, LYING BASTARD.
>
> PHONY
I feel sorry for you.
>
> I graduated. You haven't even been enrolled yet. FRAUD ! PHONY!
Lies.
>
> Are you *practicing medicine without a license*?
No.
>
> Do you know what the penalty is for that?
Indeed I do. Has no bearing on myself.
B'injamin Cr'amer
> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:08:17 GMT, "Dr. Lippschitz" <d...@yeshiva.il>
> wrote:
>
>>Glickman, we all know you have never even fired a Daisy BB gun haha
>
> You know that eh? You are suck a sick bastard, you belong in a cage.
>
> Now that you have my address, why don't you come here and see the gun
> collection I =don't= have, and the bullets I have that don't exist.
>
> LIAR, Phony, FRAUD! You are all the same.
>
> EVERY LIAR will now be killfiled. Not for any short term, but
> forever. Because I believe that dishonesty is a mark of EVIL.
Here's some help
Killfile the following:
McVay
McFee
Salzman
RJ11
Tall Henry
It's all a but strange
Concerned Aussies
Nospamatall
Jgarbuz
FlarviaR
Holman
Keenan
That'll do for starters.
B'injamin Cr'amer
You seem to be hell-bent on buying a Desert Eagle. Caveat emptor, laddie.
B'injamin Cr'amer
You could have had the decency to thank me.
>
>
Lawrence Glickman
<yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>
>"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:l0o0o3puvodbc9d92...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:31:58 +1000, "B'injamin Cr'amer"
>> <yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Go ahead and buy your Desert Eagle bucket of puss, but be sure you order
>>>plenty of spare return springs and slides.
>>
>> The pistol is $1,800 US. And gets BAD REVIEWS at
>> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071220044031AAZOAcZ
>>
>> Nevermind. No desert eagle.
>>
>> Lg
>
>You could have had the decency to thank me.
Alright, Thank You for keeping me from making a BIG mistake.
Lg
B'injamin Cr'amer
Thank you. I always aim to be of assistance.
Aside - A colleague of mine, who also must have a small dick, just had to
have the biggest handgun made. He purchased the Desert Eagle in .44 magnum
in about 1999 and had nothing but trouble with it immediately. He broke so
many return springs it became a bit of a joke, and the slide cracked on
quite a few occasions.
It was a heavy mother to hold, the recoil was devastating, and even in a
bench vice, the accuracy was all over the place.
If you really need/want a large handgun, look at the Ruger SuperSix .44
magnum. Only a revolver, but the one with the 8 inch barrel is quite an
accurate piece. Still kicks like the proverbial mule though. I don't think
I've ever fired one without flinching.
Lawrence Glickman
<yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
If you don't wear ear protectors, you will instantly and most likely
permanently damage your hearing with the .44 Magnum. It is the most
powerful pistol caliber I've fired to date, and I think going to .50
is probably not a good idea for me. I might break a wrist bone again.
My orthopedic surgeon told me that the break in my left ulna will
never again be as strong as the *original* bone before it fused back
together.
The .44 was enough, and today, maybe too much. I may opt for a .357
Magnum, with which I've had very good results or ... well, let me get
the $$$ first before I begin shopping.
But some recommendations are
Sig Sauer P226 or 228
CZ 75
Ruger P89
Beretta M9
I've taken GLOCK off the drawing boards. There are so many ADs with
them, they are now being manufactured with safetys for special orders
(police departments), but you and I get the shit trigger safety, which
IMO is no safety at all.
Besides, it looks like a piece of shit.
Calibers for my consideration (wrist notwithstanding)
454 casull
500 Smith & Wesson
.44 Magnum
Thompson 45-70
Who knows. I know from experience that when it comes to killing, you
want to do it right, and the better the terminal ballistics, the
better quicker the kill with a well placed shot.
OTOH, if you are a savage animal, you *knee* elephants with a .22 all
day long until they can't walk anymore and then you go after them with
machetes. You know who/what I'm talking about here: African Monkey
People.
Lg
B'injamin Cr'amer
Elephants - .460 Wetherby Magnum.
>
> Lg
>
Lawrence Glickman
<yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>Elephants - .460 Wetherby Magnum.
Illegal to harvest Ivory. International Law. Penalties for getting
caught range from execution to something maybe just short of
execution. Ivory Trade is verboten.
Lg
B'injamin Cr'amer
Speaking more of the weapon.
This is one mother of a weapon to shoot.
Loaded with 125gr of IMR3031 and a 500gr Hornady, it kicks like a pack of
mules. Sighted flat at 200 yards, it is only 9.5 inches low at 300 yards
(and still doing 2000 fps). This thing has over 4 tons of energy at 200
yards.
>
> Lg
>
>
Lawrence Glickman
<yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>
>"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:7ad1o3h7voseeakdl...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 20:51:25 +1000, "B'injamin Cr'amer"
>> <yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>>
>>>Elephants - .460 Wetherby Magnum.
>>
>> Illegal to harvest Ivory. International Law. Penalties for getting
>> caught range from execution to something maybe just short of
>> execution. Ivory Trade is verboten.
>
>Speaking more of the weapon.
>
>This is one mother of a weapon to shoot.
Yes a friend of mine has one, and went with a laminated wooden stock
because of the recoil. I think it looks like hell. IOW, if looks
could kill, that gun of his wouldn't need any bullets.
>
>Loaded with 125gr of IMR3031 and a 500gr Hornady, it kicks like a pack of
>mules. Sighted flat at 200 yards, it is only 9.5 inches low at 300 yards
>(and still doing 2000 fps). This thing has over 4 tons of energy at 200
>yards.
I fired a 300 Holland & Holland that about knocked me on my ass. It
certainly pushed me back a few steps. That would not be recommended
these days with my ICD/Pacemaker implant.
Lg
B'injamin Cr'amer
The 300 H & H is a pussy compared with the .460. It actually kicks far
harder than the Winchester .458.
I remember firing 4 rounds, one after the other, as quickly as I could load
and pull the trigger - result - nose bleed from the muzzle blast.
I was wearing 30dba attenuation hearing protection, a padded shooting jacket
with a pound of lead shot between my shoulder and the jacket, but my ears
were still ringing hours after and my shoulder felt like it had been hit by
a steam train.
>
> Lg
>
Lawrence Glickman
<yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
I don't doubt _that_ for a second. When I used to come home from the
rifle range, I would take my shirt off and my right shoulder to my
right elbow would be black and blue from firing just 50 rounds of
30-06 150 grain FMJ. Like totally bruised to pieces. These days if I
tried something like that, I would have a broken collar bone,
dislocated shoulder, and maybe a couple of broken eardrums.
Just cause I could get away riding this *heavy equipment* when I was
younger, does not imply that I could get away with it today without
some serious consequences. I found out just how fragile my bones are
last summer.
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Moishe Lippshitz, M.D.
Glickman, you're an old fart. Stick to your Daisy BB gun lol I've shot
elephant in Tanzania with a Holland and Holland .700 Nitro express with no
problems, But then I'm young and virile and don't get sciatica if I do the
Macarena haha
>
> Lg
>
Moishe Lippshitz, M.D.
Glickman get a good US made pacemaker, thay israeli crap will kill you.
>
> Lg
>
Gunner Asch
<Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>Loaded with 125gr of IMR3031 and a 500gr Hornady, it kicks like a pack of
>>mules. Sighted flat at 200 yards, it is only 9.5 inches low at 300 yards
>>(and still doing 2000 fps). This thing has over 4 tons of energy at 200
>>yards.
>
>I fired a 300 Holland & Holland that about knocked me on my ass. It
>certainly pushed me back a few steps. That would not be recommended
>these days with my ICD/Pacemaker implant.
>
>Lg
Shrug..I use a 375 H&H to dink prarie dogs with. Good practice.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
Lawrence Glickman
<maddog@israhell,il> wrote:
>Glickman, you're an old fart. Stick to your Daisy BB gun lol I've shot
>elephant in Tanzania with a Holland and Holland .700 Nitro express with no
>problems, But then I'm young and virile and don't get sciatica if I do the
>Macarena haha
Moishe, I =am= an old fart. What I could do and did do when I was
younger...those days seem to be a distant memory.
I'm just going to get a nice .357 magnum and be done with it.
Lg
Lawrence Glickman
<maddog@israhell,il> wrote:
>Glickman get a good US made pacemaker, thay israeli crap will kill you.
Moishe, I have a good US pacemaker. The Medtronic Virtuoso. And I'm
happy with it. It is a good invention. I have zero complaints about
it. Now, I don't want to break it.
I know from my research that Medtronic is sold around the world, so I
can go to Europe or the Mideast, and have it serviced. I think,
nobody said this but me, it is the same company that put an ICD/PM
into Vice President Cheney. I'll put $5 on that bet anyhow.
Lg
Dr. Lippschitz
get one of these Glickman, it's what I use. The .32 is a stopper.
http://www.beretta.com/index.aspx?m=74&idc=2&ids=15
>
> Lg
>
Lawrence Glickman
wrote:
That's a hot little pistol for close up and personal. Maybe too close
up and personal. But for concealability, it looks great.
I see that as a stick it in his guts and pull the trigger gun. I want
something that can give me a little more distance between Yours Truly
and the target. But I can definitely see a use for it, especially if
the target doesn't *know* you're going to use it.
Lg
Lawrence Glickman
wrote:
>
That's a hot little pistol for close up and personal. Maybe too close
up and personal. But for concealability, it looks great.
I see that as a stick it in his guts and pull the trigger gun. I want
something that can give me a little more distance between Yours Truly
and the target. But I can definitely see a use for it, especially if
the target doesn't *know* you're going to use it.
============================================================
Now I think this is what I will buy all at the same time:
Beretta 92 FS
Beretta 3032 Tomcat
holsters
ammo
and then...go to the indoor range to fire some target ammo through
them. And buy some JHP's for the real work.
And then...I still want a .357 Magnum, and will find a stainless steel
revolver for that.
So we have 3 pistols
3 holsters
3 different ammos
and, a happy camper, although, somewhat lighter in the wallet.
Lg
fla...@verizon.net
On 5-Jan-2008, Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:48:01 +1000, "B'injamin Cr'amer"
> <yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:bfutn35i17lg4ikhv...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:23:22 GMT, "Avenger" <ave...@avengers.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I want a Desert Eagle in
> >>>> .50 caliber. Stainless Steel thank you. And IIRC, it is about
> >>>> $1,000
> >>>> US
> >>>
> >>>Glickman you'll hurt yourself with that thing lol
> >>
> >> It's a handful. Yeah maybe. I had a .44 Magnum Redhawk, and that was
> >> like holding a Howitzer when it fired.
> >
> >You prove perfectly, the old addage of "The bigger the gun, the smaller
> >the
> >penis."
And KKKramer proves perfectly the old adage of bigots projecting
their faults - in his case, both illiteracy & impotence - on others.
> >
> >Grow up silly little boy.
> >
> You've done this comparison?
This was his confession.
Susan
> Then...present the evidence. Or go away
> a liar.
>
> Lg
fla...@verizon.net
On 5-Jan-2008, Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 18:59:20 +1000, "B'injamin Cr'amer"
> <yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>
> >I'm a psychologist, jew cunt.
> >
> >"The bigger the gun, the smaller the penis" is well known.
>
> First you say you're a psychologist, and then you PROVE you're not by
> saying the bigger the gun, the smaller the penis.
Oh, he's told that lie almost as many times as he's disproved it.
You have to wonder how someone can be that stupid & still
keep breathing.
Susan
>
> Cramer...Crammit.
Lawrence Glickman
Yah, Susan, he is one of the dimmer bulbs on the Christmas tree.
Nobody with an IQ as low as his can possibly be a Doctor of anything.
Lg
B'injamin Cr'amer
<fla...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:mWhgj.5911$Xo1.2049@trnddc06...
>
> On 5-Jan-2008, Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:48:01 +1000, "B'injamin Cr'amer"
>> <yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >news:bfutn35i17lg4ikhv...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:23:22 GMT, "Avenger" <ave...@avengers.co.uk>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I want a Desert Eagle in
>> >>>> .50 caliber. Stainless Steel thank you. And IIRC, it is about
>> >>>> $1,000
>> >>>> US
>> >>>
>> >>>Glickman you'll hurt yourself with that thing lol
>> >>
>> >> It's a handful. Yeah maybe. I had a .44 Magnum Redhawk, and that was
>> >> like holding a Howitzer when it fired.
>> >
>> >You prove perfectly, the old addage of "The bigger the gun, the smaller
>> >the
>> >penis."
>
> And KKKramer proves perfectly the old adage of bigots projecting
> their faults - in his case, both illiteracy & impotence - on others.
Thought you had me killfiled, you stupid, lying, dyslexic, thick Irish cunt.
How many indents does it take????
B'injamin Cr'amer
<fla...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:4Xhgj.5912$Xo1.1723@trnddc06...
>
> On 5-Jan-2008, Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 18:59:20 +1000, "B'injamin Cr'amer"
>> <yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>>
>> >I'm a psychologist, jew cunt.
>> >
>> >"The bigger the gun, the smaller the penis" is well known.
>>
>> First you say you're a psychologist, and then you PROVE you're not by
>> saying the bigger the gun, the smaller the penis.
>
> Oh, he's told that lie almost as many times as he's disproved it.
No lie, you stupid, lying, dyslexic, thick Irish cunt.
B'injamin Cr'amer
Psychologists are generally not doctors in Australia, Glickstein.
It's a pissy "science" at any rate. One for which I have absolutely no
regard.
>
> Lg
>
>
Lawrence Glickman
<yidsrb...@mosttimes.yes> wrote:
>Psychologists are generally not doctors in Australia, Glickstein.
In that respect, Aus is ahead of most of the rest of the world.
>It's a pissy "science" at any rate. One for which I have absolutely no
>regard.
I couldn't agree with you more. IOW, some guy who is a lunatic to
begin with, comes up with some bullshit to try and explain observed
phenomena, and then teaches =his= version of psychosis to every one of
his desciples.
Patients get cured...P docs stay sick.
Lg
fla...@verizon.net
He has often insisted that he *is* a psychologist.
Susan
NathanBedf...@excite.de
> You're not a stinking, sub-human filthy blood-drinking baby-eating
> hooked-nosed kike? Well shit man, you had me fooled.
Glickman demonstrates to the careful reader on usenet the self
hatred built into the typical jew.
Beware the jew, folks. Its kind is trying to take over White
America with a brown and black invasion.
Nathan
Lawrence Glickman
So says the neo-nazi PUKE. You are born from vomit, are vomit, and
will be flushed down the sewer when you die...like vomit.
Crawl back under your rock until *we* call for you.
Lg
US
Opinions, News & Views
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 00:19:44 -0800 (PST),
> NathanBedf...@excite.de wrote:
>
>>Lawrence Glickman projected:
>>
>>> You're not a stinking, sub-human filthy blood-drinking baby-eating
>>> hooked-nosed kike?
With all this namecalling being conducted on the newsgroups instead of
business, it's a wonder Internet providers even offer the newsgroups to
customers anymore.
It would seem much better for everyone, and for business in general, for the
larger Internet providers to simply create their own new set of newsgroups
that have strict rules against namecalling and which can quickly ban
accounts from posting should some kid begin posting offensive nonsense that
offends people.
Lawrence Glickman
<fgkjfjk...@dhgfdhfghdghdfghfg.com> wrote:
>
>"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:277uo3dp1kbhck5ir...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 00:19:44 -0800 (PST),
>> NathanBedf...@excite.de wrote:
>>
>>>Lawrence Glickman projected:
>>>
>>>> You're not a stinking, sub-human filthy blood-drinking baby-eating
>>>> hooked-nosed kike?
>
>With all this namecalling being conducted on the newsgroups instead of
>business, it's a wonder Internet providers even offer the newsgroups to
>customers anymore.
>
>It would seem much better for everyone, and for business in general, for the
>larger Internet providers to simply create their own new set of newsgroups
>that have strict rules against namecalling and which can quickly ban
>accounts from posting should some kid begin posting offensive nonsense that
>offends people.
You have it exactly backwards, *Opinions*, which isn't a surprise to
anybody.
I AM THE JEW who has been called all these things, by Nathan others
for many years now.
Now, I accuse -him- of being a Jew. Maybe you are also. Go ahead and
deny it.
Lg
misc.survivalism
Lawrence Glickman
<fgkjfjk...@dhgfdhfghdghdfghfg.com> wrote:
>
>"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:277uo3dp1kbhck5ir...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 00:19:44 -0800 (PST),
>> NathanBedf...@excite.de wrote:
>>
>>>Lawrence Glickman projected:
>>>
>>>> You're not a stinking, sub-human filthy blood-drinking baby-eating
>>>> hooked-nosed kike?
>
>With all this namecalling being conducted on the newsgroups instead of
>business, it's a wonder Internet providers even offer the newsgroups to
>customers anymore.
>
>It would seem much better for everyone, and for business in general, for the
>larger Internet providers to simply create their own new set of newsgroups
>that have strict rules against namecalling and which can quickly ban
>accounts from posting should some kid begin posting offensive nonsense that
>offends people.
You have it exactly backwards, *Opinions*, which isn't a surprise to
anybody.
I AM THE JEW who has been called all these things, by Nathan others
for many years now.
Now, I accuse -him- of being a Jew. Maybe you are also. Go ahead and
deny it.
Lg
misc.survivalism
I just knew it. ANOTHER SELF-LOATHING JEW jumps up only to get his
pee pee whacked.
YOU PEOPLE NEVER LEARN!
Now go drown yourself in your bathtub.
Lg
JEW, RABBI, USian, BULLETPROOF
Schmuckaroo
:
>>>
>>>>Lawrence Glickman projected:
>>>>
>>>>> You're not a stinking, sub-human filthy blood-drinking baby-eating
>>>>> hooked-nosed kike?
>>
>>With all this namecalling being conducted on the newsgroups instead of
>>business, it's a wonder Internet providers even offer the newsgroups to
>>customers anymore.
>>
>>It would seem much better for everyone, and for business in general, for
>>the
>>larger Internet providers to simply create their own new set of newsgroups
>>that have strict rules against namecalling and which can quickly ban
>>accounts from posting should some kid begin posting offensive nonsense
>>that
>>offends people.
What about the old stumblebums who post crap year after year?
>
> You have it exactly backwards, *Opinions*, which isn't a surprise to
> anybody.
>
> I AM THE JEW who has been called all these things, by Nathan others
> for many years now.
>
> Now, I accuse -him- of being a Jew. Maybe you are also. Go ahead and
> deny it.
J'acuse!!! haha
>
> Lg
> misc.survivalism
>
>
> I just knew it. ANOTHER SELF-LOATHING JEW jumps up only to get his
> pee pee whacked.
>
> YOU PEOPLE NEVER LEARN!
>
> Now go drown yourself in your bathtub.
>
> Lg
> JEW, RABBI, USian, BULLETPROOF
How hard did you crack your head when you fell out of that tree?
>
B'iny'amin C'r'amer
> NathanBedf...@excite.de wrote:
>
>>Lawrence Glickman projected:
>>
>>> You're not a stinking, sub-human filthy blood-drinking baby-eating
>>> hooked-nosed kike? Well shit man, you had me fooled.
>>
>>Glickman demonstrates to the careful reader on usenet the self
>>hatred built into the typical jew.
>>
>>Beware the jew, folks. Its kind is trying to take over White
>>America with a brown and black invasion.
>>
>>Nathan
>
> So says the neo-nazi PUKE.
Fuck orf, jew cunt.
Lawrence Glickman
make my day....
Lawrence Glickman
wrote:
>> Lg
>> JEW, RABBI, USian, BULLETPROOF
>
>
>How hard did you crack your head when you fell out of that tree?
hard enough
feel LUCKY punk?
Slomo
Glickman, you really shouldn't threaten people or you may find the Mounties
at you door :o) People like you who talk about guns and shooting people
usually end up in the loony bin. Do you really want to spend your last days
there? :o)
Lawrence Glickman
You don't think THIS NEWSGROUP is the looney bin? I'm already in it.
Evidently, you are also.
My last days...could be right now. Nobody ever knows when the final
hour is upon them (except in rare instances, such as lethal injection
etc etc).
No...I am certified Sane. In fact, not returning the hatred directed
at me could be construed as being mentally unbalanced. When someone
punches me, I hit back. My name isn't Jesus Christ, and I don't
invite you to dinner for nailing me to a piece of wood.
Lg