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Calley's Bit

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Jul 5, 2009, 4:51:55 PM7/5/09
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Eventually,the inviolable laws of nature must be adhered to. All
the vain attempts at defying biology and evolution through
governmental engineering will cease,and millions of blacks will be
left to their own devices with no longer any welfare state gratuities
to depend on.
Even the political correct institutions constructed by whites to
lift black esteem; all of the multitude of
awards,medals,prizes,commemorations and memeorials will fall by the
wayside in the face of continual black failure and economic
imperatives.
Once America's economy can no longer afford to play nursemaid and
take care of their chronically disabled brethren both here and over in
their ancestral homeland, those laws of nature in all their harshness
shall take effect.
Certain marginalization ,if not extinction of the third human
race, for all intents and purposes, is a distinct possibility.
Thus, the time shall come when we must "call a spade a spade".
If blacks and other poverty-prone whites cannot swim on their won,they
must be cut loose to sink or float.

I am merely declaring what human economics and the natural laws of
this planet have always commanded.

☥ Turin ☥

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Jul 5, 2009, 5:46:23 PM7/5/09
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Not quite, Son.

Unfortunately for the racist thesis, the so-called achievement
disparities between the races didn't seriously start becoming
"evident" until around the 1800s.

That's when both colonization and technology came together, on the
side of the colonizers, to create this effect. Before that, the
comparisons more, or less, dealt with questions of forms of government
and resources.

You be extrapolating history-wide conclusions from only about 200
years of it......


- - -

Sit your ass down and learn from:


Turin

I have such sites to show you...

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http://www.myspace.com/turin_turambar

http://groups.google.com/group/Men_First/

http://turinturambar.fortunecity.com/blog/

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"He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or
maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall
burn in hell forever and ever...."

-----


Andrew Usher

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Jul 5, 2009, 6:42:10 PM7/5/09
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On Jul 5, 3:46 pm, ☥ Turin ☥ <turinturamba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately for the racist thesis, the so-called achievement
> disparities between the races didn't seriously start becoming
> "evident" until around the 1800s.

Yeah right. Civilisation itself evidences such.

Andrew Usher

♂ ☿ Turin ☤ ☭

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Jul 5, 2009, 6:56:23 PM7/5/09
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Idiot, you took what I said out of context. But, no doubt, anything
that upsets your predefined world view wouldn't qualify as a fact,
anymore than an argument. This leaves one wondering how you & Society
decide whose turn it is to be on top...


- - -

Beloved of the Gods:

Turin

I have such sites to show you...

------------------------

http://www.myspace.com/turin_turambar

http://groups.google.com/group/Men_First/

http://turinturambar.fortunecity.com/blog/

------------------------

"He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or
maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall
burn in hell forever and ever...."

-----

> Andrew Usher

Andrew Usher

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Jul 5, 2009, 7:26:37 PM7/5/09
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On Jul 5, 4:56 pm, ♂ ☿ Turin ☤ ☭ <turinturamba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 5, 6:42 pm, Andrew Usher ⚣ <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 5, 3:46 pm, ☥ Turin ☥ <turinturamba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Unfortunately for the racist thesis, the so-called achievement
> > > disparities between the races didn't seriously start becoming
> > > "evident" until around the 1800s.
>
> > Yeah right. Civilisation itself evidences such.
>
> Idiot, you took what I said out of context. But, no doubt, anything
> that upsets your predefined world view wouldn't qualify as a fact,
> anymore than an argument. This leaves one wondering how you & Society
> decide whose turn it is to be on top...

No I didn't. And your lame homosexual insult is typical , I imagine,
of the intellectual level tof your contributions.

Andrew Usher

♂ ☿ Turin ☤ ☭

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Jul 5, 2009, 7:40:03 PM7/5/09
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Yes, you did, you weeping feminist troll. Literally.

No? So, paste the text back in, Homosexual. We'll begin taking you
to school.


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"And they were not able to resist the wisdom

and the spirit by which he spake":

Andrew Usher

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Jul 5, 2009, 8:00:51 PM7/5/09
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♂ ☿ Turin ☤ ☭ wrote:

> > No I didn't. And your lame homosexual insult is typical , I imagine,
> > of the intellectual level tof your contributions.
>
> Yes, you did, you weeping feminist troll. Literally.

Prove it, moron.

> No? So, paste the text back in, Homosexual. We'll begin taking you
> to school.

Whatever.

Andrew Usher

♂ ☿ Turin ☤ ☭

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Jul 5, 2009, 8:13:23 PM7/5/09
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On Jul 5, 8:00 pm, Andrew Usher ⚣ <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> weaseled:
> ♂ ☿ Turin ☤ ☭ said with power and conviction:

>
> > > No I didn't. And your lame homosexual insult is typical , I imagine,
> > > of the intellectual level tof your contributions.
>
> > Yes, you did, you weeping feminist troll.  Literally.
>
> Prove it, moron.


Kind of hard to do that without the text, Queer Bait.

Oh wait ...that was all I needed. ☺


> > No?  So, paste the text back in, Homosexual.  We'll begin taking you
> > to school.
>
> Whatever.


Hahaha .....you are a pathetic troll, Andy Candy.


- - -

Few can dispute him. Even fewer dare......

Turin


I have such sites to show you...
------------------------

------------------------

"He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or
maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall
burn in hell forever and ever...."

-----

> Andrew "Full of Shit" Usher


Day Brown

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Jul 6, 2009, 4:10:30 PM7/6/09
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While I'd not be surprised at a massive die-off, Africa is a genetically
diverse place with some gene pools that will adapt. Its not skin color.
If that were so, Lapps and Gypsies, who are just as white as I am, would
not have the same social problems with crime, addiction, and abuse as
niggers.

Then too, Farwell, "The Great War in Africa" shows how the Brits were
used to the niggers scattering like rabbits from a few Enfield rounds;
but when they tried to invade German East Africa, defended by German led
Askari troops, it was the Brits who ran like rabbits. The Brits also had
a very close call with the Zulu, who were also able to well organize.

The diff is that the Zulu and Askari troops were not jungle hunters, but
had been farmers, just like all other tribes in Europe... except for the
Lapps and Gypsies.

And now, 99% of the white people are urban, dont know jack schitt about
how to grow food, and too many feed at the same trough as niggers. Will
be just as subject to extinction if the social safety net collapses.

Look at all the insane rants here. You think they can respond rationally
if there is some kind of societal breakdown? Are any of them niggers?

noauth

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Jul 6, 2009, 5:52:34 PM7/6/09
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Oh STFU, Short Shit.

Before someone finally grabs you for the first time in your mouthy life, swings you around by those stupid little purchased leathers and chains, and kicks your head in. You wouldn't want that whole phony "bad ass" "biker" image of yours to be exposed as the gutless philosophizing of a scared little faggy college liberal, would you? Of course not. If someone decided to stuff your deadpan act deep down all the way to the bottom of your weak, little birdshit covered ass, I doubt you could make a good showing for yourself.

Go make a YouTube video of yourself squawking the word "nigger" around, like that, somewhere outside of rural Missouri, White Trash. Try Harlem, like a real tough guy. Whoever's ass gets kicked, you'd get my respect.

Shut you face, White Boy.

Calley's Bit

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Jul 7, 2009, 5:59:37 PM7/7/09
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> if there is some kind of societal breakdown? Are any of them niggers?- Hide quoted text -
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There are few of your African -Americans that post at all since they
have enough trouble talking,least of all formulating an argument and
typing it.
There is no poverty like African poverty.It is a unique
circumstance that illustrates the patent debility of this third race.
Ergo,they'll be in the worst position when confronted by Asian
hegemony and the continued rise of Muslimization in Euro-Asia and the
Hispanic influx over here.

Calley's Bit

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Jul 7, 2009, 6:08:43 PM7/7/09
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> - Show quoted text -

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That 200 year period is exactly the time one is best able to
extrapolate from.
As for the pre-1800s,the cultural and achievement levels and
capacities of the Asian and Caucasian had surpassed those of the
African natives since the dawn of the Neolithic Age.

♂ ☿ Turin ☤ ☭

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Jul 7, 2009, 9:53:37 PM7/7/09
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Lmao....so, You believe that thousands of years of relative
developmental equality requires no explanation......? Hahaha, I guess
now we know why white Europeans were, mainly, illiterate filthy Pagans
and anarchic barbarians throughout most of history.

That is, until the Romans and Moslems came around to get you started
on the rudiments ....after conquering and civilizing you.....you
*still* be so proud of "yourselves".... ;D


>         As for the pre-1800s,the cultural and achievement levels and
> capacities of the Asian and Caucasian had surpassed those of the
> African natives since the dawn of the Neolithic Age.


That's a *lot* of generalizing and lumping together of races. Wrong.
And, the Native Americans are a great example. Africans weren't all
the same, either.

- - -

In brightest day,
In blackest night,
No ignorant posts,
Shall escape his sight.
Let those who worship
Bullshit's might,
Beware his power...

...Turin's Light

Andrew Usher

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Jul 7, 2009, 10:27:17 PM7/7/09
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On Jul 7, 7:53 pm, ♂ ☿ Turin ☤ ☭ <turinturamba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > That 200 year period is exactly the time one is best able to
> > extrapolate from.
>
> Lmao....so, You believe that thousands of years of relative
> developmental equality requires no explanation......? Hahaha, I guess
> now we know why white Europeans were, mainly, illiterate filthy Pagans
> and anarchic barbarians throughout most of history.

So was everyone in the world. The difference is that we grew out of it
without any help.

> That is, until the Romans and Moslems came around to get you started
> on the rudiments ....after conquering and civilizing you.....you
> *still* be so proud of "yourselves".... ;D

The Romans were 'white Europeans', moron. The first Muslims probably
were, too.

> > As for the pre-1800s,the cultural and achievement levels and
> > capacities of the Asian and Caucasian had surpassed those of the
> > African natives since the dawn of the Neolithic Age.
>
> That's a *lot* of generalizing and lumping together of races. Wrong.
> And, the Native Americans are a great example. Africans weren't all the same, either.

The Native Americans were a great example of what? Assuming you mean
US Indians, they never developed whatever until they encountered us.

Andrew Usher

♂ ☿ Turin ☤ ☭

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Jul 8, 2009, 12:02:06 AM7/8/09
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On Jul 7, 10:27 pm, Asshole Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 7:53 pm, ♂ ☿ Turin ☤ ☭ <turinturamba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > That 200 year period is exactly the time one is best able to
> > > extrapolate from.
>
> > Lmao....so, You believe that thousands of years of relative
> > developmental equality requires no explanation......? Hahaha, I guess
> > now we know why white Europeans were, mainly, illiterate filthy Pagans
> > and anarchic barbarians throughout most of history.
>
> So was everyone in the world. The difference is that we grew out of it
> without any help.


Wrong. Most whites had help from only a relatively few Mediterranean
whites who actually did the "growing" that you speak of. And, even
with that, the rest remained stuck far longer than necessary.

Had Mediterranean - or, perhaps: Asian - rule extended to Africa, then
blacks would've advanced just as quickly as Pagan Europe. As it was,
they got second hand colonization from the slow-witted ex-conquered
subjects of the true advanced races. Same goes for other longitudinal
regions, such as the Americas. Also, those South Pacific areas (that
a mucho number of ignoramuses are still demonstrating their ignorance
from, to this day); which were, just simply, too isolated.


> > That is, until the Romans and Moslems came around to get you started
> > on the rudiments ....after conquering and civilizing you.....you
> > *still* be so proud of "yourselves".... ;D
>
> The Romans were 'white Europeans', moron.


No shit, Sherlock. The problem is that's the only part that you
grasp. The cause of said problem is that you're stupid.


> The first Muslims probably
> were, too.


Lmfao....I guess I don't need to say "probably" when calling you a
dumbass.


> > > As for the pre-1800s,the cultural and achievement levels and
> > > capacities of the Asian and Caucasian had surpassed those of the
> > > African natives since the dawn of the Neolithic Age.
>
> > That's a *lot* of generalizing and lumping together of races. Wrong.
> > And, the Native Americans are a great example. Africans weren't all the same, either.
>
> The Native Americans were a great example of what? Assuming you mean
> US Indians, they never developed whatever until they encountered us.


You really don't know shit about this subject, Mr. Andrew. You should
take a sabbatical, for a while, to STFU and go read some Jared
Diamond.

- - -

"And he stretched out his hand over the sea of bullshit. And the Lord
caused the bullshit to go back by a strong east wind all that night,
and made the bullshit dry land. And the bullshit was divided.":

Turin


I have such sites to show you...
------------------------

------------------------

"He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or
maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall
burn in hell forever and ever...."

-----

> Annette Usher

Day Brown

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Jul 12, 2009, 10:16:12 AM7/12/09
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Turin wrote:

> You really don't know shit about this subject, Mr. Andrew. You should
> take a sabbatical, for a while, to STFU and go read some Jared
> Diamond.

I read him, Guns, Germs, & Steel, and Collapse. also his Cosmo-
> http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/features/print/2735/civilisations-why-they-fail?page=0%2C0

He has some valuable ideas, but dont have fucking papal infallibility.
He mentions the surprise the Brits had when they ran into the Zulu. They
were usta seeing a few well aimed Enfield rounds making niggers scatter
like rabbits. Had the Zulu had even a few modern weapons, their
organizational skills would've wiped out the Brits.

Then, what Diamond dont know about, is German East Africa during WWI,
when German led Askari troops were the ones who made the Brits run like
rabbits. Repeatedly. Despite being out numbered. The Askari had actually
won the war in Africa according to Farwell, "The Great War in Africa".

And then, we have the Lapps (Saami) and Gypsy, who are just as white as
I am, but have the same social problems as Blacks and Hispanics.

Its not skin color. What it is, shared by the Chinese, Japanese, and
Koreans, is thousands of years of evolution as yeoman farmers. The Zulu
and Askari troops were also farmers, unlike all the other African tribes
into hunting and herding. The Zulu moved to higher latitudes, the Askari
came from higher altitudes, both with more temperate climates that
permitted stock breeding and field grains.

Modern civilization evolved out of yeoman farmer agrarian village life.
The cultures that had it, no matter what their skin color, adapt well;
those that didnt, didnt. They dont have the right instinctive behavior
patterns. Ayaan Hirsi Ali mentions this with the Muslim men who moved to
the Netherlands. They preferred to stay on welfare rather than go into
the tulip fields to work. Farm work was for slaves. What they wanted to
do was raise camels.

I've posted the foregoing several times. The silence is deafening. That
is because it does not fit the parameters of either the Liberal nor the
Conservative side. Both are locked into their own forms of group think,
which is why the issue is intractable.

Day Brown

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Jul 12, 2009, 10:24:39 AM7/12/09
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Calley's Bit wrote:
> There are few of your African -Americans that post at all since they
> have enough trouble talking,least of all formulating an argument and
> typing it.
> There is no poverty like African poverty.It is a unique
> circumstance that illustrates the patent debility of this third race.
> Ergo,they'll be in the worst position when confronted by Asian
> hegemony and the continued rise of Muslimization in Euro-Asia and the
> Hispanic influx over here.
We'll see. It aint over yet. Its a very diverse place. Women now run
Liberia. And the rising start in South Africa to challenge the endemic
one party rule there is the mayor of Capetown. A white woman. Who gets
black votes.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali, "Infidel" speaks personally of the misogyny of Islam;
and as we see in her case, smart young women are seeing what life is
like for women in modern cultures, and getting the fuck out. Leaving the
airheads to breed with the Mullahs. That's a race to the bottom, even if
it takes a couple generations.

Even Ben Ladin's own sisters were in the USA on 9/11/01.

But agreed, the vast majority of Africa is a basket case headed for a
massive die off. And if the global economy tanks because of the oil
problem, it wont be the only massive die off.

The USA could do without imported oil, and has the resources to feed the
population. But look at all the insane rants here. I dunno if it can
stay organized enuf after a financial panic.

Mason C

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Jul 12, 2009, 3:25:21 PM7/12/09
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Day,

Silence is the most common response to good posts -- posts that are
indisputable. The silence doesn't mean they aren't read and appreciated.

Goofy posts get lots of noisy responses -- sound and fury meaning nothing.

George Orwell

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Jul 13, 2009, 1:56:19 AM7/13/09
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Noauth,

Point beautifully made.


Passion and forcefulness are signs of having courage of the convictions which, in turn, are signs of having strong mind as well as strong heart; from which, everyone benefits.

Passivity and wounded contemplation are signs of a diseased nature: weakness, cowardice, dishonesty, wavering, senility, a sociopathic disposition, and a lack of committment, seriousness and support. All of which, poisons everyone.


The lurking, furtive weirdos will always vouchsafe the ice-blooded sophisticate a few cheers for his antisocial nature and posturing stances that counterfeit "reason". That's because they both know that neither one will ever do a damn thing, containing an iota of real value for the other. But the farce functions as a pseudo solidarity that can contend with normal human beings in an orderly society.

The world loves a winner, for good reason. Fuck useless losers and their crybaby lives.


On Jul 6, 5:52 pm, noauth <a...@remailer.gabrix.ath.cx> wrote:
> Oh STFU, Short Shit.
>
> Before someone finally grabs you for the first time in your mouthy life, swings you around by those stupid little purchased leathers and chains, and kicks your head in. You wouldn't want that whole phony "bad ass" "biker" image of yours to be exposed as the gutless philosophizing of a scared little faggy college liberal, would you? Of course not. If someone decided to stuff your deadpan act deep down all the way to the bottom of your weak, little birdshit covered ass, I doubt you could make a good showing for yourself.
>
> Go make a YouTube video of yourself squawking the word "nigger" around, like that, somewhere outside of rural Missouri, White Trash. Try Harlem, like a real tough guy. Whoever's ass gets kicked, you'd get my respect.
>
> Shut you face, White Boy.
>

> On Jul 6, 4:10 pm, Day Brown <dayhbr...@gmail.com> wrote:


>
> > Calley's Bit wrote:
> > > Eventually,the inviolable laws of nature must be adhered to. All
> > > the vain attempts at defying biology and evolution through
> > > governmental engineering will cease,and millions of blacks will be
> > > left to their own devices with no longer any welfare state gratuities
> > > to depend on.
> > > Even the political correct institutions constructed by whites to
> > > lift black esteem; all of the multitude of
> > > awards,medals,prizes,commemorations and memeorials will fall by the
> > > wayside in the face of continual black failure and economic
> > > imperatives.
> > > Once America's economy can no longer afford to play nursemaid and
> > > take care of their chronically disabled brethren both here and over in
> > > their ancestral homeland, those laws of nature in all their harshness
> > > shall take effect.
> > > Certain marginalization ,if not extinction of the third human
> > > race, for all intents and purposes, is a distinct possibility.
> > > Thus, the time shall come when we must "call a spade a spade".
> > > If blacks and other poverty-prone whites cannot swim on their won,they
> > > must be cut loose to sink or float.
>
> > > I am merely declaring what human economics and the natural laws of
> > > this planet have always commanded.
>

> > While I'd not be surprised at a massive die-off, Africa is a genetically
> > diverse place with some gene pools that will adapt. Its not skin color.
> > If that were so, Lapps and Gypsies, who are just as white as I am, would
> > not have the same social problems with crime, addiction, and abuse as
> > niggers.
>
> > Then too, Farwell, "The Great War in Africa" shows how the Brits were
> > used to the niggers scattering like rabbits from a few Enfield rounds;
> > but when they tried to invade German East Africa, defended by German led
> > Askari troops, it was the Brits who ran like rabbits. The Brits also had
> > a very close call with the Zulu, who were also able to well organize.
>
> > The diff is that the Zulu and Askari troops were not jungle hunters, but
> > had been farmers, just like all other tribes in Europe... except for the
> > Lapps and Gypsies.
>
> > And now, 99% of the white people are urban, dont know jack schitt about
> > how to grow food, and too many feed at the same trough as niggers. Will
> > be just as subject to extinction if the social safety net collapses.
>
> > Look at all the insane rants here. You think they can respond rationally
> > if there is some kind of societal breakdown? Are any of them niggers?
>
>

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Mason C wrote:
> Silence is the most common response to good posts -- posts that are
> indisputable. The silence doesn't mean they aren't read and appreciated.
>
> Goofy posts get lots of noisy responses -- sound and fury meaning nothing.
Well ya, I hadnt thot about it, but guess you are right about that.
State something stupid, and its like a feeding frenzy.

1- "I mite like to move to Russia, where they take their tyranny
straight up, undiluted with the waters of hypocrisy." A. Lincoln.

2-"There's another sucker born every minute." PT Barnum.

3- Gibbon, as well as many ancient sages mention the 'tumults' of
asinine crazy mobs. Only now, those jackasses vote. As well as post what
they think. If that's the right word for it.

And they rant about media manipulation; but is there really any
alternative? Is the hypocrisy necessary? Looks like it.

Why am I not surprised the grave desecration in Chicago was done by
Blacks to Blacks? But I am kinda surprised the racists are not all over
what the niggers do to each other. I wouldnt be surprised to hear of
Rednecks who'd done as much, but dont know of a case. Then there's:
http://www.livescience.com/health/090605-warrior-gene.html
Which identifies the DNA marker associated with gangs and violence. So,
its perfectly obvious that some gene pools have more boys with that
marker than others. The silence from the Liberals on this kind of DNA
data, from people who say they follow science not religion, is again...
just deafening.

"Conservatism" today is not much like what Goldwater was for. Today, I
have no hope of educating a 'conservative'. But its distressing to see
the Liberals, who say they are 'open minded' to be so hypocritical when
the scientific facts disturb political correctness.

Thanx for polite discourse.

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