Jews vs the Second Amendment
MarVel
In addition to that below, Jews have funded and run most
anti-RTKBA organizations. Their plans for globalist dictator-
ship cannot be implemented so long as patriotic Americans
have the means to resist - as guaranteed them by the
Founders.
Jews and U.S. Gun Control Legislation, 1968-Present
Note: this webpage is a work-in-progress. More information will be
added later. This information shows that, contrary to some claims,
Jews have sponsored or co-sponsored most modern anti-gun legislation.
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1968: The Gun Control Act of 1968 comes from Jewish Rep. Emanuel
Celler's House bill H.R. 17735. It expands legislation already
attempted by the non-Jewish Sen. Thomas Dodd. America's biggest and
most far-reaching gun law came from a Jew [1].
1988: Senate bill S. 1523 is sponsored by Jewish Senator Howard
Metzenbaum. It proposes legislation turning every violation of the Gun
Control Act of 1968 into a RICO predicate offense, allowing a gun
owner to be charged with federal racketeering offenses.
1988: Senator Metzenbaum co-sponsors a bill -- S. 2180 -- to ban, or
limit/restrict, so-called "plastic guns."
1990: Jewish Senator Herbert Kohl introduces bill S.2070, the Gun-Free
School Zones Act of 1990, which bans gun possession in a school zone.
The law will later be struck down in court as unconstitutional.
1993: Senate bill S.653 is sponsored by Sen. Howard Metzenbaum. It
bans specific semiautomatic rifles, but also gives the Secretary of
the Treasury the power to add any semiautomatic firearm to the list at
a later date.
February, 1994: The Brady Law, which requires waiting periods to buy
handguns, becomes effective. Senator Metzenbaum wrote the Brady Bill.
Metzenbaum sponsored the bill in the Senate. The sponsor of the bill
in the House was Jewish Rep. Charles Schumer [2].
1994: Senator Metzenbaum introduces S.1878, the Gun Violence
Prevention Act of 1994, aka "Brady II." Rep. Schumer sponsored "Brady
II" sister legislation [H.R. 1321] in the U.S. House of
Representatives.
September, 1994: The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of
1994 goes into effect, including a provision that bans the manufacture
and possession of semiautomatic rifles described as "assault weapons."
[Note: true assault weapons are fully automatic, not semiautomatic].
That gun-ban provision was authored in the Senate by Jewish Senator
Dianne Feinstein and authored in the House by Congressman Schumer.
1995: Jewish Senators Kohl, Specter, Feinstein, Lautenberg and others
introduce the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1995, an amended version of
the 1990 school-zone law which was struck down in court as being
unconstitutional.
September, 1996: The Lautenberg Domestic Confiscation provision
becomes law. It is part of a larger omnibus appropriations bill. It
was sponsored by Jewish Senator Frank Lautenberg. It bans people
convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence from ever owning a gun.
1997: Senate bill S. 54, the Federal Gang Violence Act of 1997,
proposes much harsher sentences for people violating minor gun laws,
including mandatory prison sentences and forfeiture of property. It
was introduced by Dianne Feinstein and a non-Jewish Senator [Hatch],
among others. It returns the idea of turning every violation of the
Gun Control Act of 1968 into a RICO predicate offense.
January, 1999: Jewish Senator Barbara Boxer introduces bill S.193, the
American Handgun Standards Act of 1999.
January, 1999: Senator Kohl introduces bill S.149, the Child Safety
Lock Act of 1999. It would to require a child safety lock in
connection with transfer of a handgun.
February, 1999: Senator Frank Lautenberg introduces bill S.407, the
Stop Gun Trafficking Act of 1999.
February, 1999: Senator Lautenberg introduces S.443, the Gun Show
Accountability Act of 1999.
March, 1999: Senator Lautenberg introduces bill S.560, the Gun
Industry Accountability Act of 1999.
March, 1999: Senator Feinstein introduces bill S.594, the Large
Capacity Ammunition Magazine Import Ban Act of 1999.
May, 2000: Senate bill S. 2515, Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale
Act of 2000, is submitted by Senators Feinstein, Senator Barbara
Boxer, Sen. Lautenberg and Sen. Schumer. It is a plan for a national
firearms licensing system.
January, 2001: Senate bill S.25, Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale
Act of 2001, is sponsored by Feinstein, Schumer, and Boxer. It is a
nation-wide gun registration plan [apparently there were two versions
of that Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act bill].
May, 2003: Senators Feinstein, Schumer, Boxer and others introduce
legislation that would reauthorize the 1994 federal assault weapons
ban, and, close a loophole in the law that allows large-capacity
ammunition magazines to be imported into the U.S. The ban is scheduled
to expire in September, 2004.
October, 2003: Senators Feinstein, Lautenberg, Levin [also Jewish] and
Schumer co-sponsor bill S.1774, designed to stop the sunset [ending]
of the Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988.
March, 2005: Senator Lautenberg introduces bill S.645, "to reinstate
the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act," in
other words, to reinstate the 1994 assault-rifle ban [also known as
the "Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994"] which
expired in late 2004.
March, 2005: Senator Feinstein introduces bill S.620, "to reinstate
the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act," in
other words, to reinstate the 1994 assault-rifle ban [also known as
the "Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994"] which
expired in late 2004.
[1] Celler's bill as the base or foundation of the Gun Control Act of
1968: Here or Here
http://www.supremelaw.org/decs/lopez/5thcir.htm
http://www.guncite.com/journals/hardfopa.html#fn102
[2] a long list of the anti-gun bills sponsored by Schumer, Here
[footnote #36]
http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/Healey1.htm
Lawrence Glickman
wrote:
UPDATE:
January, 2007:
A Jew named Glickie ( to his friends ) announces that All
non-criminals are required by Law to arm themselves in order to
fulfill the MANDATE of the 2nd Ammendment to the Constitution of the
United States of America. Those unable to prove gun ownership are
fined and/or sent to prison.
Tim May
Glickman <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
> UPDATE:
>
> January, 2007:
> A Jew named Glickie ( to his friends ) announces that All
> non-criminals are required by Law to arm themselves in order to
> fulfill the MANDATE of the 2nd Ammendment to the Constitution of the
> United States of America. Those unable to prove gun ownership are
> fined and/or sent to prison.
"Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Rights" contacted me several
years ago to ask if they could use part or all of one of my essays. I
said "Sure," inasmuch as I had their comic book about why Jews need to
move away from their very real (for the most part) anti-gun,
pro-government liberal mindset.
(I never bothered to see if or where my essay got used by them...)
There's something in Judaism, at least in the European and American
versions, which is at nearly polar opposition to the "frontier ethic"
that is usually associated with Protestantism and the pioneers who
spread West.
Some likely contributors to this mindset:
-- Jews and minions. Righteous Jews are supposed to live close enough
to a synogogue and the males are supposed to live close enough to
enough other Jewish males to form a "minion." Google for details if
interested. This is similar to Catholics and Muslims. By contrast,
Protestants in their Reformation established the "every man can
communicate with God" view, without some priest, rabbi, imam, or other
such intermediary. This made moving out to the wilds of Oklahoma or
Oregon or Alaska, living far from others, permissable. Most Jews stayed
in established cities.
As a result, Jews never full absorbed the "self-defense" culture. To
most Jews, calling the local policeman is their idea of self-defense.
Being good with a rifle and six-shooter is alien to them. For the most
part.
-- Obedience to authority. Jews have historically survived pogroms by
"lowering their eyes" and deferring to authority, by sacrificing some
of their own, and by paying bribes to keep their inner city ghettoes
(the term before it came to refer to negroes and Mexicans) secure.
(This had dire consequences for them in WW II, where aside from the
Warsaw Uprising, 99% of Jews obediently reported to the train stations
for their train rides, where virtually no SS officers were killed by
Jews using their guns to fight, and where ghetto leaders often assisted
the Germans in their plans.)
(And it is well-documented that German Jews applauded Hitler's actions
on gun control in the early 1930s. They thought that collecting
privately-owned guns would make them safer. They thought wrong.)
-- A focus on "the Law." The exteme focus on minutiae of the Torah and
the detailed picking-apart of subtle subtexts is part of the Jewish
culture. This is why so many Jews become lawyers. "Nothing is settled
by force" is their chant. Thus, people defending themselves and their
property with guns is alien to this "everything is about the Law"
mindset.
-- General liberalism. Jews are so obviously at the forefront of modern
liberalism that it's almost trite to mention it. But it goes a long way
toward explaining why so many Jews are against the Second Amendment,
why so many Jews in Congress have led the way for gun control, and why
Jews in the judiciary have consistently ruled in favor of taking away
"cowboy" rights.
-- The whole mantra of "Never again!" in modern Israel is basically an
acknowledgement that Jews became associated with disarmament, not
fighting back, getting beat-up by healthier boys in school, and so on.
The image of the Jew as a fey teen with side curls, rocking and moaning
as he studied obscure 2500-year-old texts, getting sand kicked in his
face, obediently reporting to the train station for "resettlement," all
of this is why the survivors said "Never again."
(I happen to think Zionism is a sick philosophy, and getting the United
Nations to endorse the expulsion of those already living in a
region--and there for many centuries, as the Palestinians are a whole
lot more "Semitic" than some scrawny Jews from Krakow and Paris and
Berlin are!--so that these skinny Jews could build a new socialist
nation, complete with communes and collectives and state-owned
companies, is sick. Further, the numbers surrounding them mean it's
only a matter of time before they are overrun or nuked or gassed or all
of the above.)
I'm not religious at all. I have no belief in goddesses or sprites or
demons or gods or fairies or djinns or an afterlife or a soul or heaven
or hell.
So I view Judaism as just one more cult. And its cult beliefs are
fundamentally liberal (in the modern liberal sense) and fundamentally
anti-liberty.
Congratulations to the 3-5% of Jews in America who support gun rights
and the notion of self-defense and protection from Big Government. But
the other 95% are not worth a bucket of spit.
--Tim May
Lawrence Glickman
You speak of zionism as if it is some kind of disease. It is exactly
what the Puritans did when they *settled* the USA, which was not the
USA at the time of their invasion. I detect just a bit of hypocrisy
here. IOW, the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians when they settled
the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Israel modeled its'
imperialism after the USA's modus operandi.
Speaking for myself, I would make it a CRIME for law-abiding US
citizens to not be armed. It puts excess burden on Law enforcement
agencies and contributes to the escalating crime wave that is sweeping
the United States.
How many banks do you think would be robbed if the perps knew that
each teller had an Uzi slung over their shoulder, ready to rock n
roll.
Lg
Avenger
I detect just a bit of hypocrisy
> here. IOW, the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
> what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians
Not at all similiar. There were very few "indians" around and they were not
thrown off their land by the Puritans.Palestine is a densely populated area
whcih was taken over by European refugees.
when they settled
> the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
> Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Israel modeled its'
> imperialism after the USA's modus operandi.
>
> Speaking for myself, I would make it a CRIME for law-abiding US
> citizens to not be armed. It puts excess burden on Law enforcement
> agencies and contributes to the escalating crime wave that is sweeping
> the United States.
Crime is actually down to a 1/3 of what is was 20 years ago.
>
> How many banks do you think would be robbed if the perps knew that
> each teller had an Uzi slung over their shoulder, ready to rock n
> roll.
Banks today have bullet proof glass between the tellers and customers.
>
> Lg
>
Bret Cahill
Second Amendment and federal force has _never_ been "checked" on U. S.
soil by individualist ownership of guns, but the real reason so few
Jews suck on the "if I git pushed too far" pacifier is because Jews
don't sit around indulging themselves in the fantasy that "utopia will
break out after an individualist shoots the tax collector."
Jews tend to be _real_ citizens who take _real_ action.
The ones who sit around daydreaming pure nonsense -- "check them evil
feds with violence" -- and stewing in their juice tend to be anti-
semites.
Bret Cahill
Lawrence Glickman
wrote:
>
>
>
> I detect just a bit of hypocrisy
>> here. IOW, the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
>> what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians
>
>Not at all similiar. There were very few "indians" around and they were not
>thrown off their land by the Puritans.Palestine is a densely populated area
>whcih was taken over by European refugees.
Liar. There were millions of Indians. And they were systematically
murdered by the US Govn't Cavalry.
>when they settled
>> the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
>> Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
>>
>> I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Israel modeled its'
>> imperialism after the USA's modus operandi.
>>
>> Speaking for myself, I would make it a CRIME for law-abiding US
>> citizens to not be armed. It puts excess burden on Law enforcement
>> agencies and contributes to the escalating crime wave that is sweeping
>> the United States.
>
>Crime is actually down to a 1/3 of what is was 20 years ago.
Bullshit. It has never been higher. 2/3rds of cases never make it to
the Court System because that would bring the Judicial Process to a
grinding halt from overload. You LIE again.
>> How many banks do you think would be robbed if the perps knew that
>> each teller had an Uzi slung over their shoulder, ready to rock n
>> roll.
>
>Banks today have bullet proof glass between the tellers and customers.
Where is that? Not around here they don't. THEY DO NOT. Currency
exchanges do, banks do not. Why the fuck do you think they get robbed
in the first place nitwit? If they had bulletproof glass nobody could
rob them.
You're nothing but a fucking LIAR Avenger. Are you sure you don't
work for the government disinformation agency?
Lg
Lawrence Glickman
wrote:
>The "individualist right to a gun" never appears anywhere in the
>Second Amendment and federal force has _never_ been "checked" on U. S.
>soil by individualist ownership of guns, but the real reason so few
>Jews suck on the "if I git pushed too far" pacifier is because
============================================================
>Jews
>don't sit around indulging themselves in the fantasy that "utopia will
>break out after an individualist shoots the tax collector."
I think this idea needs to be tested for confirmation of results.
>Jews tend to be _real_ citizens who take _real_ action.
Some do, some don't.
>The ones who sit around daydreaming pure nonsense -- "check them evil
>feds with violence" -- and stewing in their juice tend to be anti-
>semites.
>
>Bret Cahill
It takes balls to survive in Liberty. If you don't have any, or don't
grow any, you're going to be joining the rest of the slaves very
shortly if you haven't already.
Lg
ubermutant
news:060420071321456439%tim...@removethis.got.net...
This is a fascinating window on the psychology and/or mindset of the average
jew on the street. You would think that, given their history, they of all
people would understand the prudence of not relying on other people to
defend you from the wolves.
There's something very weird, almost a Bobby Fischer kind of self-loathing
inherent in this mindset. And it's undeniable.
b.
--
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NRA Patron, GSSA Life, recovering Republican
If you're not catching flak, you're not over the target.
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Lawrence Glickman
<webm...@whatsamattayou.edu> wrote:
>
>This is a fascinating window on the psychology and/or mindset of the average
>jew on the street.
AMERICAN Jew on the street. You won't find much of this
submissiveness in Israel.
> You would think that, given their history, they of all
>people would understand the prudence of not relying on other people to
>defend you from the wolves.
Those who have been touched by the hatred have prepared themselves for
the Final Chapter.
>There's something very weird, almost a Bobby Fischer kind of self-loathing
>inherent in this mindset. And it's undeniable.
>
>b.
I think you underrate these people. If they want to kick ass, find a
nice foxhole and don't come out until the smoke clears.
Lg
Tim May
<webm...@whatsamattayou.edu> wrote:
> "Tim May" <tim...@removethis.got.net> wrote in message
> news:060420071321456439%tim...@removethis.got.net...
>
> This is a fascinating window on the psychology and/or mindset of the average
> jew on the street. You would think that, given their history, they of all
> people would understand the prudence of not relying on other people to
> defend you from the wolves.
Thanks. It's what I've learned in my 55 years, being friends with many
Jews, working with and for many Jews, and seeing their comments, their
articles, their legal rulings, and so on.
Not all are like this. Glickman, for example, runs counter to the
typical exemplar.
I don't think their mindset will change just by individual Jews having
an epiphany. It will likely take a major reformation, a la the
Reformation the Catholics went through to become (many of them)
Protestants.
Ditto for Islam. Both Islam and Judaism are in their pre-reformation,
"trust the priests" stage, neither having had the kind of shift from
village elder-centered to individual choice-centered process.
>
> There's something very weird, almost a Bobby Fischer kind of self-loathing
> inherent in this mindset. And it's undeniable.
>
It's so undeniable it's even the core of Jewish humor.
Jews for the most part try to cozy up to whichever satrap is in power,
be they Communist or Fascist or Democrat or Republican (as in the
current inner Bush circle of pro-Israel plotters). They have even
turned informant on other members of their tribe, even acted as
"trustees" or "Zeks" for the Nazis, the Stalinists, even for the Shah's
secret police.
One reason the Protestant Reformation was so dramatic an event is that
it takes a huge amount of energy to break the binding energy of the
"priestly elite." After all, priests and rabbis and imams and witch
doctors have it pretty good--they get a nice comfortable living off the
taxes ("tithings," etc.) of a gullible population. Giving this power up
means unemployment.
Of course, this power is so alluring that Protestant clerics then
immediately tried to get it back, and have been moving in the direction
of consolidation of priestly power ever since. Sects like LDS have gone
almost completely back to the Catholic model, with their own imperial
capitol, hereditary priesthoods, and large and magnificent church
structures, aptly named "temples" and "tabernacles." And they've even
gone beyond the Catholics in thinking of ways to collect more tithings:
the living can make extra donations so as to baptize their dead
ancestors into the LDS church.
--Tim May
Tim May
Glickman <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I think you underrate these people. If they want to kick ass, find a
> nice foxhole and don't come out until the smoke clears.
>
They did well in the wars where the American-supplied jets and tanks
made the difference.
But in their war last summer, they had their asses handed to them by
Hizbollah. Their ignominious retreat back to their own lines, followed
by the sacking of the key military commanders, emphasized this.
Now Hizbollah is stronger than ever.
--Tim May
ubermutant
news:4ajd135pdkjebjspt...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 18:28:06 -0400, "ubermutant"
> <webm...@whatsamattayou.edu> wrote:
> >
> >This is a fascinating window on the psychology and/or mindset of the
average
> >jew on the street.
>
> AMERICAN Jew on the street. You won't find much of this
> submissiveness in Israel.
Perhaps. Never been to Israel (sadly). I'll have to take this one on
faith. For now.
> > You would think that, given their history, they of all
> >people would understand the prudence of not relying on other people to
> >defend you from the wolves.
>
> Those who have been touched by the hatred have prepared themselves for
> the Final Chapter.
Were it only so, but not on this side of the pond. Not only that, they are
hell-bent on assisting the 'final chapter', as you put it.
> >There's something very weird, almost a Bobby Fischer kind of
self-loathing
> >inherent in this mindset. And it's undeniable.
> >
> >b.
>
> I think you underrate these people. If they want to kick ass, find a
> nice foxhole and don't come out until the smoke clears.
>
Again, count me a skeptic for now. They left Lebanon earlier this year with
tail tucked firmly underneath, and by all accounts have learned exactly zero
from the experience. The old guard, yes I'll grant you had some inspiring
times but this bunch today is .. sad to say .. disappointing.
I can't help this nagging feeling that we're about to see history repeat
itself again, with the yids complicit in their own destruction .. again. If
they're going to pull their collective heads out of their asses, there isn't
much time.
Sure hope I'm wrong about this.
Sue
wrote:
>
>
>
Perhaps at your bank. The branch of Wells Fargo, where I do my
banking, has no such thing.
Sue
>>
>> Lg
>>
>
MaK
Tim May wrote:
>
>
>There's something in Judaism, at least in the European and American
>versions, which is at nearly polar opposition to the "frontier ethic"
>that is usually associated with Protestantism and the pioneers who
>spread West.
>
>Some likely contributors to this mindset:
>
Jews want *you* to be disarmed...not to be disarmed themselves.
Look at Feinstein...she had a concealed carry permit at the same
time she was working hard to make sure goys couldn't get one.
Jewish cells maintain large caches of automatic weapons in
the U.S. according to ex-Mossad officer Victor Ostrovsky in his
book By Way of Deception (St. Martin's, 1990). In their Orwellian
New World Order they intend to be the ones wearing the jack-
boots...not the victims.
MajorHart
>
> [2] a long list of the anti-gun bills sponsored by Schumer, Here
> [footnote #36]http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/Healey1.htm
I know chuck schumer has been a major anti-gun nut and he is jewish.
I'm glad to see a list of them. You're right they do want a police
state here in America (just like the one they had in Russia when
hundreds of millions of russians were killed for no reason at all) A
lot of people need to be informed that is was jews that planned and
financed the Bolshevik Revolution - that installed red communism in
russia and a whole bunch of other countries - leading to a HOLOCAUST
of their innocent citizens.
>There's something in Judaism, at least in the European and American
versions, which is at nearly polar opposition to the "frontier ethic"
that is usually associated with Protestantism and the pioneers who
spread West.
IT's because most of those people are white and jews HATE white
people.
I've debated at least 350 jews on USA Sovereignty and Border Security
and every one to the last person has been for open borders and letting
the hordes come in. Also if we had guns we might be able to repel the
invaders. Got to get them guns out.
Jack Hester
Tim May
<kl8a9t...@fandango.endjunk.com> wrote:
Likewise, Jews very vocally support laws encouraging free immigration
of ethnic untermenschen and applaud mixed-race marriages like black
O.J. and blonde Nicole....even as they villify Jews who marry outside
their religion. The Jew likes it when non-Jews engage in miscegenation.
It weakens their enemies.
My sister, a blonde, married a Jew and was hounded by the name "shiksa"
(or however it is spelled). She later divorced him.
--Tim May
JohnJohnsn
> In article <hb8d13dpdvmdc8d55qn8kcirmvncnli...@4ax.com>, Lawrence
>
> Glickman <Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > UPDATE:
>
> > January, 2007:
> > A Jew named Glickie ( to his friends ) announces that All
> > non-criminals are required by Law to arm themselves in order to
> > fulfill the MANDATE of the 2nd Ammendment to the Constitution of the
> > United States of America. Those unable to prove gun ownership are
> > fined and/or sent to prison.
>
> "Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Rights"...
Tim: I think you mean "Jesw for the Preservation of Firearms
Ownership":
> ...contacted me several years ago to ask if they could use part or all of one
inkyb...@yahoo.com
Why American Zionists are not American Conservatives.
1) American Conservatives believe in America first, and do not put the
interests of a foreign cult or power before the interests of the
American people. American Zionists (AKA "Neoconservatives") believe
in Israel first and are willing to destroy America's culture,
democracy, freedom, reputation, international standing, and economy,
all for the sake of Israel.
2) American Conservatives believe in the rule of law and respect the
United States Constitution. American Zionists do not care about what
is legal or Constitutional, only in want they can do for Israel, be it
extorting money from American taxpayers to give to Israel, or
illegally starting foreign wars for Israeli interests, not American
interests. American Zionists believe in illegal torture, illegal
spying on American citizens, and they believe in doing everything they
can to squash free speech and political dissent.
3) American Conservatives do not take orders from any cult or foreign
power. The American Zionists in the White House and Congress take
orders from AIPAC, the America Israel Public Affairs Committee. In
the year 2007 the ultimate power in America is AIPAC, not the White
House, not Congress, and not the United States Supreme Court.
America has become a fake democracy because the United States of
America has suffered a silent coup by American Zionists pretending to
be American Conservatives and American Liberals. Both political
parties have sold out the American people to the cult commune known as
"Israel." Our Founding Fathers, particularly Thomas Jefferson and
Benjamin Franklin, warned Americans about foreign cults and
conspiracies, but George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Nancy Pelosi, John
McCain, Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, Hillary Clinton, and most of the
rest have sold out their own country for campaign donations and the
support by a corrupt and basically anti-American cult that has made
America the most hated nation in the world.
The world hates America because we preach freedom but practice world
wide terror and illegality, all for our God Israel. "Shock and awe"
is not "freedom." Torture is not "freedom". Rendition is not
"freedom." Rule by 2.5% of our population is not "freedom." Illegal
bombing, invasion, and occupation of foreign nations who have never
attacked us is not "freedom." Causing the deaths of hundreds of
thousands of foreign nationals for no legitimate reason is not
"freedom." Draining America's budget, destroying our own military,
and destroying civil liberties and the rule of law at home is not
"freedom."
How can the United States of America ever address our major problems
like global warming, the insolvency of Social Security, illegal
immigration, health care, etc., while the cult of Zionism continues to
suck our economy dry, making us fight war after war, all for an
illegal and lawless cult commune that believes that "The spilling of
goy blood cannot be compared to the spilling of Jewish blood." They
want us to illegally attack Iran next, which will be the final blow to
our economy with oil prices beyond our immagination and world wide
chaos.
Strangely, and pathetically, many American Evangelical Christians
worship Israel as the body of God and are devout supporters of Jews,
no matter what crimes Jews commit, at the same time most Jews despise
Evangelical Christians and make jokes about how stupid they are.
America loves BIG BROTHER and licks BIG BROTHER'S feet, while BIG
BROTHER despises the America people and is destroying America by
sucking our economy dry. The American media supports the brainwashing
and mind control that keeps this absurd situation in play, and most
Americans are too hypnotized, to scared, or too apathetic to fight
back.
The symbol of America in the year 2007 should be a fat, sleepy sheep,
not an eagle!
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MajorHart
> In article <hb8d13dpdvmdc8d55qn8kcirmvncnli...@4ax.com>, Lawrence
>
Very interesting post and I agree. I opened a yahoo list awhile back
- Jews for USA Sovereignty - not one joined. That's another thing
they don't believe in.
Jack Hester
Tim May
<"inkyb...@yahoo.com"> wrote:
> Strangely, and pathetically, many American Evangelical Christians
> worship Israel as the body of God and are devout supporters of Jews,
> no matter what crimes Jews commit, at the same time most Jews despise
> Evangelical Christians and make jokes about how stupid they are.
> America loves BIG BROTHER and licks BIG BROTHER'S feet, while BIG
> BROTHER despises the America people and is destroying America by
> sucking our economy dry. The American media supports the brainwashing
> and mind control that keeps this absurd situation in play, and most
> Americans are too hypnotized, to scared, or too apathetic to fight
> back.
>
> The symbol of America in the year 2007 should be a fat, sleepy sheep,
> not an eagle!
One of my neighbors is an evengelical Christian. He supports Israel
strongly.
Why? As he explains it, Jews are necessary to fullfill Prophecy. Only
when the Jews have "rebuilt the temple" (which his church is sending
contributions for, he says) and then has triggered Armageddon, will
Christ return for his rule.
As for the Jews per se, my neighbors says the Jews are already
condemned to Hell so it doesn't matter what ultimately happens to
Israel. He says he expects it to vanish under the onslaught of Arab and
Iranian nuclear weapons. As far as he is concerned, the Jews will have
done their part.
The Jew is a pawn for Rapture eschatology.
And these guys run the Situation Room.
A good thing I live out where the only thing upwind of me is the
Pacific Ocean. The NeoCons can trigger the war, the Zionists in Israel
can be incinerated, a billion other brown types can die of radiation
sickness, and, hopefully, Washington, D.C. and Jew York City will be
glassified craters.
One way to solve the problem of too many brown types picking our
pockets.
--Tim May
Avenger
> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:32:38 GMT, "Avenger" <ave...@avengers.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> I detect just a bit of hypocrisy
>>> here. IOW, the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
>>> what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians
>>
>>Not at all similiar. There were very few "indians" around and they were
>>not
>>thrown off their land by the Puritans.Palestine is a densely populated
>>area
>>whcih was taken over by European refugees.
>
> Liar. There were millions of Indians. And they were systematically
> murdered by the US Govn't Cavalry.
Like Custer? lol They were having wars with each other long before they saw
a white man.
There were about 20 million(probably more like 5) "Indians" on TWO
continents, North and South America. In fact, 10k years ago when they came
here the ENTIRE population of the earth was 1 million.
>
>>when they settled
>>> the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
>>> Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Israel modeled its'
>>> imperialism after the USA's modus operandi.
>>>
>>> Speaking for myself, I would make it a CRIME for law-abiding US
>>> citizens to not be armed. It puts excess burden on Law enforcement
>>> agencies and contributes to the escalating crime wave that is sweeping
>>> the United States.
>>
>>Crime is actually down to a 1/3 of what is was 20 years ago.
>
> Bullshit. It has never been higher.
Then you're a boy and weren't conscious 20 years ago.
2/3rds of cases never make it to
> the Court System because that would bring the Judicial Process to a
> grinding halt from overload.
Then it was even more true 20 years ago.NYC had 2000 murders before
Guiliani, now it's 700.
You LIE again.
>
>>> How many banks do you think would be robbed if the perps knew that
>>> each teller had an Uzi slung over their shoulder, ready to rock n
>>> roll.
>>
>>Banks today have bullet proof glass between the tellers and customers.
>
> Where is that? Not around here they don't. THEY DO NOT. Currency
> exchanges do, banks do not. Why the fuck do you think they get robbed
> in the first place nitwit? If they had bulletproof glass nobody could
> rob them.
More and more banks are doing it.
Avenger
"Bret Cahill" <BretC...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1175896682.0...@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> The "individualist right to a gun" never appears anywhere in the
> Second Amendment
Then you know nothing about your own Constitution since these Rights were
enumerated as INDIVIDUAL rights. And US Supreme Court rulings all say this.
and federal force has _never_ been "checked" on U. S.
> soil by individualist ownership of guns, but the real reason so few
> Jews suck on the "if I git pushed too far" pacifier is because Jews
> don't sit around indulging themselves in the fantasy that "utopia will
> break out after an individualist shoots the tax collector."
Jews also don't believe in an afterlife.
> Jews tend to be _real_ citizens who take _real_ action.
>
> The ones who sit around daydreaming pure nonsense -- "check them evil
> feds with violence" -- and stewing in their juice tend to be anti-
> semites.
That was the intention of the 2nd Amendment.An armed citizenry to maintain a
balance of power and keep the leaders in check. And yes, most things do have
to be solved with violence.
>
>
> Bret Cahill
>
>
>
Mysterion
I hope she took the bastard for every last shekel, except what went to her
lawyer (no doubt also one of the chosen).
Avenger
> In article <1175914182.6...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> <"inkyb...@yahoo.com"> wrote:
>
>
>> Strangely, and pathetically, many American Evangelical Christians
>> worship Israel as the body of God and are devout supporters of Jews,
These people are devout fools and do not represent real Christians.
>> no matter what crimes Jews commit, at the same time most Jews despise
>> Evangelical Christians and make jokes about how stupid they are.
>> America loves BIG BROTHER and licks BIG BROTHER'S feet, while BIG
>> BROTHER despises the America people and is destroying America by
>> sucking our economy dry. The American media supports the brainwashing
>> and mind control that keeps this absurd situation in play, and most
>> Americans are too hypnotized, to scared, or too apathetic to fight
>> back.
>>
>> The symbol of America in the year 2007 should be a fat, sleepy sheep,
>> not an eagle!
>
>
> One of my neighbors is an evengelical Christian. He supports Israel
> strongly.
I never met one, we don't have any where I live.
>
> Why? As he explains it, Jews are necessary to fullfill Prophecy. Only
> when the Jews have "rebuilt the temple" (which his church is sending
> contributions for, he says) and then has triggered Armageddon, will
> Christ return for his rule.
All bullshit of course since the last temple there was actually a Roman
temple. Besides building a temple there will only provoke a war especially
when they begin their primitive animal sacrifices which most people will
deplore.Jews engage in torturing animals as part of their religion.
>
> As for the Jews per se, my neighbors says the Jews are already
> condemned to Hell so it doesn't matter what ultimately happens to
> Israel. He says he expects it to vanish under the onslaught of Arab and
> Iranian nuclear weapons. As far as he is concerned, the Jews will have
> done their part.
>
> The Jew is a pawn for Rapture eschatology.
>
> And these guys run the Situation Room.
Really? Then why are there so many yids in the Bush government?
>
> A good thing I live out where the only thing upwind of me is the
> Pacific Ocean. The NeoCons can trigger the war, the Zionists in Israel
> can be incinerated, a billion other brown types can die of radiation
> sickness, and, hopefully, Washington, D.C. and Jew York City will be
> glassified craters.
90% of people in NY are not jews.
>
> One way to solve the problem of too many brown types picking our
> pockets.
You wouldn't have all these people in the US if Bush and his predecessors
put pressure on the corrupt Mexican gov't to enforce land reforms in their
country then these people would remain were they were for the most part.
>
>
> --Tim May
Tim May
Mysterion <mysteri...@supernet.com> wrote:
> "Tim May" <tim...@removethis.got.net> wrote in message
> news:060420071930414571%tim...@removethis.got.net...
> >
> > My sister, a blonde, married a Jew and was hounded by the name "shiksa"
> > (or however it is spelled). She later divorced him.
>
> I hope she took the bastard for every last shekel, except what went to her
> lawyer (no doubt also one of the chosen).
>
It was an amicable divorce. He's a good guy. I haven't seen him in 10
years, but my sister remains in touch with him.
We had a couple of interesting debates, ones where he spouted the
Jewish mantra about how government protects our rights, how the Second
Amendment is "outmoded" (not my argument!), and so on.
He always hated it when I referred to Jews in the collective ("Jews
believe..." or "the Jew has always...") but he routinely referred to
"goyim" and "shiksas" and "Christians think..." (even though I am not
and have never been a Christian).
I'd be happy if religion didn't enter into politics, but it clearly
does. And Jews are, for whatever reason, probably the greatest threat
to libery in America that there is. They fundamentally just don't "get
it." Or maybe they do, but want the blessings of liberty reserved only
for their own "tribe."
There is much evidence that the core of Jewish teaching is that only
Jews are "Chosen," are really worthy of YHWH's blessings. All others
are animals, to be exploited. A lot like the Gypsy creed....Gypsies and
Jews are very closely related.
From their Talmud:
#1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim (Gentiles) is like killing a wild
animal."
#2. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be
violated."
#3. Yebamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted
if she is three years of age."
#4. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
#5. Yebamoth 98a: "All gentile children are animals."
#6. Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from
a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made
the wine unclean."
#7. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of
the world are not human beings but beasts."
--Tim May
Benj
Avenger wrote:
> I detect just a bit of hypocrisy
> > here. IOW, the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
> > what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians
>
> Not at all similiar. There were very few "indians" around and they were not
> thrown off their land by the Puritans.Palestine is a densely populated area
> whcih was taken over by European refugees.
Obviously you never heard the story of the "Trail of Tears". The
president was Andrew Jackson. He wanted to get rid of all Indians East
of the Mississippi river. The Indians, being Eastern Indians and
civilized about things did what you and I might do: Hired lawyers and
took the case clear to the Supreme Court. The court came down
declaring that the gummint had no right to boot Indians out of the
East. Jackson sneered "How many [army] divisions does the Supreme
Court have?" he called out the army, gathered up the Indians East of
the Mississippi and shipped them all West where most either died on
the way of were killed by Western Indians who didn't want anymore
humans coming their way Indian or not. The only reason I'm here is my
great grandmother married a white man and was therefore not ejected.
Jackson did some great things fighting the financial power elite, but
the Trail of Tears ranks right up there with Concentration camps for
Japanese Americans and the Bonus marchers Etc. as another dark chapter
of American hegemony.
Tim May
<ave...@avengers.co.uk> wrote:
> "Tim May" <tim...@removethis.got.net> wrote in message
> news:060420072008371158%tim...@removethis.got.net...
> >
> > One way to solve the problem of too many brown types picking our
> > pockets.
>
> You wouldn't have all these people in the US if Bush and his predecessors
> put pressure on the corrupt Mexican gov't to enforce land reforms in their
> country then these people would remain were they were for the most part.
>
I'm not an expert on Mexican agriculture, but I doubt your point VERY,
VERY strongly.
Mexico is arid. Most land is marginal for farming. The cities of
Mexico, like many cities, are filled with poor people.
These are not people who can make a quarter acre out in the Sonoran
Desert and somehow make it bloom.
Do the math.
They come to the U.S. for the obvious reasons.
(Am I endorsing this? Of course not. There are 10 milion or more in
Europe and Asia and other parts of the world who have been "patiently
waiting in line" for many years to get a coveted visa to immigrate to
the U.S. If we once again "grant amnesty" to the 15-20 million illegal
aliens in the U.S., what of the 10 million who followed the established
process? "They be suckas, homes!" is I guess the Spanglish/Ebonics
translation.)
I used to hire engineers for my job at Intel. We had a very difficult
time obtaining permission to let British and German engineering
graduates enter the U.S. to work for Intel.
And yet some peasant from Chiaps with a wife and four kids, who doesn't
even speak Spanish (they speak Indian dialects), is given a free ride
and is offered language classes here in my town. Not language training
in English, but classes to teach him SPANISH.
Only in America do we keep out Indian and European engineers and
scientists but let in Mexican peasants, criminals, gang leaders,
welfare breeders, and "anchor baby mamecitas."
America is preterite. It has earned destruction.
--Tim May
edi...@netpath.net
Nation - and much more reflect the leftist politics of that area than
its politics reflect theirs. Is Catholic Ted Kennedy any less anti-
gun than Jewish Feinswine?
No $4 to park! No $6 admission! http://www.INTERNET-GUN-SHOW.com
Tie
Toleman
If he isn't Jewsish, I don't know who is!
Ted
> Then you know nothing about your own Constitution since these Rights were
> enumerated as INDIVIDUAL rights. And US Supreme Court rulings all say this.
>
keep and bear arms?
Toleman
> There were about 20 million(probably more like 5) "Indians" on TWO
> continents, North and South America. In fact, 10k years ago when they came
> here the ENTIRE population of the earth was 1 million.
>
that proved how they originated in Asia and crossed the ice bridge in Russia /
Alaska, migrating south.
It was "heresy" to them.
Tim May
<tedwi...@aol.com> wrote:
Jews like Brandeis and Frankfurter.
--Tim May
Avenger
> In article <V6GRh.135$Z66.129@trnddc06>, Avenger
> <ave...@avengers.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Tim May" <tim...@removethis.got.net> wrote in message
>> news:060420072008371158%tim...@removethis.got.net...
>
>> >
>> > One way to solve the problem of too many brown types picking our
>> > pockets.
>>
>> You wouldn't have all these people in the US if Bush and his predecessors
>> put pressure on the corrupt Mexican gov't to enforce land reforms in
>> their
>> country then these people would remain were they were for the most part.
>>
>
> I'm not an expert on Mexican agriculture, but I doubt your point VERY,
> VERY strongly.
>
> Mexico is arid. Most land is marginal for farming. The cities of
> Mexico, like many cities, are filled with poor people.
Ever hear of irrigation? lolThe best wine from Chile comes from an arid area
(300+days of sun a year) but is irrigated from mountain runoff water.
>
> These are not people who can make a quarter acre out in the Sonoran
> Desert and somehow make it bloom.
Mexico should be a rich country with its natural resources but its economy
relies on oil and money sent home.
>
> Do the math.
>
> They come to the U.S. for the obvious reasons.
>
> (Am I endorsing this? Of course not. There are 10 milion or more in
> Europe and Asia and other parts of the world who have been "patiently
> waiting in line" for many years to get a coveted visa to immigrate to
> the U.S. If we once again "grant amnesty" to the 15-20 million illegal
> aliens in the U.S., what of the 10 million who followed the established
> process? "They be suckas, homes!" is I guess the Spanglish/Ebonics
> translation.)
>
> I used to hire engineers for my job at Intel. We had a very difficult
> time obtaining permission to let British and German engineering
> graduates enter the U.S. to work for Intel.
>
> And yet some peasant from Chiaps with a wife and four kids, who doesn't
> even speak Spanish (they speak Indian dialects), is given a free ride
> and is offered language classes here in my town. Not language training
> in English, but classes to teach him SPANISH.
True. People in the US forget that these people are basically Indians.
Certainly nor Spanish which are European.
>
> Only in America do we keep out Indian and European engineers and
> scientists but let in Mexican peasants, criminals, gang leaders,
> welfare breeders, and "anchor baby mamecitas."
The US is by no means alone in this but why import people who do jobs for
the most part that should be done by American poor as it was in the past?
Avenger
"Toleman" <tolem...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20810e5fd...@news.datemas.de...
DeNiro is not a jew.He's Dutch-English-Italian
Avenger
<edi...@netpath.net> wrote in message
news:1175927827.3...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Get real. At least 7/8 of Jews in America live in core urban Blue
> Nation - and much more reflect the leftist politics of that area than
> its politics reflect theirs. Is Catholic Ted Kennedy any less anti-
> gun than Jewish Feinswine?
NY is mostly country and a lot of people own firearms. NYC is a tiny part of
NYS where 1/2 the population lives. Even there a lot of people own firearms.
Morton Davis
"MajorHart" <majo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1175912718.8...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> IT's because most of those people are white and jews HATE white
> people.
>
> I've debated at least 350 jews on USA Sovereignty and Border Security
> and every one to the last person has been for open borders and letting
> the hordes come in. Also if we had guns we might be able to repel the
> invaders. Got to get them guns out.
>
>
ubermutant
news:MPG.208108ef1...@news.datemas.de...
That's what a LOT of people have said, and it doesnt make it any less true.
--
========================================
NRA Patron, GSSA Life, recovering Republican
If you're not catching flak, you're not over the target.
========================================
Heinrich
> "Tie" <tiber...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.208108ef1...@news.datemas.de...
> > Tim May tim...@removethis.got.net said:
> > > Gypsies and
> > > Jews are very closely related.
> > >
> > That's what Hitler said too.
>
> That's what a LOT of people have said, and it doesnt make it any less true.
>
Literacy has polluted people's minds, making them hate the truth.
That's why people have fallen for Jewish lies.
www.nsm88.com www.americannaziparty.com www.kkk.com
www.k-k-k.com
Robert Sturgeon
wrote:
Because the Supreme Court, like the Pope, is not infallible.
--
Robert Sturgeon
Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/
Samurai Dreams
> On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 03:14:21 -0400, Ted <tedwi...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Avenger ave...@avengers.co.uk said:
> >> Then you know nothing about your own Constitution since these Rights were
> >> enumerated as INDIVIDUAL rights. And US Supreme Court rulings all say this.
> >>
> >Then why, has there never been a supreme court ruling in favor of the right to
> >keep and bear arms?
>
> Because the Supreme Court, like the Pope, is not infallible.
>
>
Of course, only gunloons are infallible.
But why did the gun loon say the supreme court supported it?
Another gunloon lie? Or just another gunloon myth?
ubermutant
news:MPG.20817abf2...@nntp.aioe.org...
Historical fact, not myth or lie. The supreme court HAS ruled on RKBA. The
US v. Miller decision, among others, did in fact affirm RKBA applied to
individuals and that it specifically protected militarily-useful weapons.
Interestingly enough, the court went so far as to say that the military
aspects of a weapon do serve the basis for determining whether possession of
that particular weapon is protected by the second amendment. By logical
extension, Zumbo's sporting rifles would be more likely to be determined 'at
risk' of exposure under the second that my Garands, M14s and of course, ARs.
Obviously you didnt' know that, and your willingness to sound off in spite
of your ignorance shows what a complete ass you really are.
b.
Scotius
wrote:
Check the list of businesses that officially support gun
control posted her by Patriot Games. Then check how many of them are
owned by Jews (few, if any). An asshole is an asshole, be he Jewish or
Gentile. You want to simplify everything by making everything that's
wrong the fault of the Jews. There's a terrible price to pay if you
were to be successful. It wasn't Jewish criminals that ruined Germany;
Gentile criminals did that.
Tim May
wrote:
> > Mexico is arid. Most land is marginal for farming. The cities of
> > Mexico, like many cities, are filled with poor people.
>
> Ever hear of irrigation? lolThe best wine from Chile comes from an arid area
> (300+days of sun a year) but is irrigated from mountain runoff water.
And which rivers in Mexico will supply this irrigation water?
And why are the "landowners" you think should have their land
"reformed" away from them not now using such irrigation? (They are in
some limited places, where wells are possible and where surface water
can be obtained, but this is a relatively small fraction of Mexico's
land.)
Why do you think irrigation which is not now happening will happen when
some Mextica peasant is given his acre of desert land to cultivate?
Do you think the tens of billions of dollars spent to transport water
from the Sierra mountains in Northern California down to Southern
California will be spent--at a much higher cost--to transport that
water even further south into the even more arid Mexican desert?
(Do you think Americans and Californians will endorse this?)
As for Chile, it has the basic "positioning" of California, and has
the same kinds of run-off from its own coastal range of mountains. But
for places too far from water, desert. It has no massive canal system
the way California has--the cost was, and is, simply too high.
Dream on about your socialist plan to have Mexican "land reform."
> > These are not people who can make a quarter acre out in the Sonoran
> > Desert and somehow make it bloom.
>
> Mexico should be a rich country with its natural resources but its economy
> relies on oil and money sent home.
I lived for 6 years in San Diego. The starkest contrast in the world
between political systems lies at the juncture of San Diego and
Tijuana. On one side, socialism and land reform. On the other side,
capitalism and private property.
The San Diego side is wealthy. But just across the fence, in the same
exact type of physical terrain, open sewers, shanties, and a lot of
poor dumb brown people.
Mexico needs to become _less_ socialist, not _more_ socialist the way
your "land reform" plan would have it.
--Tim May
the_blogologist
> the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
> what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians when they settled
> the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
> Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
There are about 1.5 BILLION muslums in the world. There are about 10
million Jews, 5 million in Israel. There are plenty of places the
Palestianians could go. Why the hell do they need that tiny strip of
desert?
> I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Israel modeled its'
> imperialism after the USA's modus operandi.
To plunder the land for it's non-existant natural resorces i'll bet.
> Speaking for myself, I would make it a CRIME for law-abiding US
> citizens to not be armed. It puts excess burden on Law enforcement
> agencies and contributes to the escalating crime wave that is sweeping
> the United States.
>
> How many banks do you think would be robbed if the perps knew that
> each teller had an Uzi slung over their shoulder, ready to rock n
> roll.
>
> Lg
More unarmed people died in ONE year of Hitler's death camps than have
died in the entire history of civilian gun crime in the US. If they
really wanted to fight crime in the US they'd take the cable TV out of
prison cells. If they do ban guns, there's likely to be mass
non-compliance, as indicated by the massive amount of buying that went
on in gun shows prior to Clinton's gun ban. What would flooding our
courts with "gun crimes" do to crime in general?
BDK
@gmail.com says...
SNORT!!
Damn, you owe me a keyboard!
BDK
edi...@netpath.net
quoted Ubermutant:
> >There's something very weird, almost a Bobby Fischer kind of self-loathing
> >inherent in this mindset. And it's undeniable.
and replied:
> I think you underrate these people. If they want to kick ass, find a
> nice foxhole and don't come out until the smoke clears.
You really don't get it. Dennis Prager - prominent Jewish talk-
radio host and conservative - said in 1993 at a synagogue in
Greensboro, North Carolina that "the real 'religion' of most American
Jews is liberalism." Add in that American Jews in the past two
generations generally have avoided anything that would have taught
them tactical skills - like military careers, police careers, or
hunting - and the Jewish community in America just is hardly full of
potential equivalents of the Israeli soldier.
stuar...@comcast.net
> The "individualist right to a gun" never appears anywhere in the
> Second Amendment
That is an outlandish lie spewed by a really poor lier who thinks his
reader is an idiot. You depend on this "the right of the people" really
means a collective right, that is, a power of the government. It is a
stupid interpretation that only the stupidest of idiots and the most
cynical of freedom haters spew. All that remains is to determine if
you're a run of the mill common idiot, or a cynical freedom hater. It
makes small difference which you are, really.
Sadly, too many of his readers ARE idiots, as I found out in another
thread.
> and federal force has _never_ been "checked" on U. S.
> soil by individualist ownership of guns,
The Federalist party was trying to block the election of Thomas
Jefferson as President, and they had the votes to do it.
However, the angry mob outside the capital wanted congress to honor the
election, and they had the guns to make congress do it.
Then there was the small matter of the war between the states.
The Bear Creek Rebellion also comes to mind.
> but the real reason so few
> Jews suck on the "if I git pushed too far" pacifier is because Jews
> don't sit around indulging themselves in the fantasy that "utopia will
> break out after an individualist shoots the tax collector."
>
> Jews tend to be _real_ citizens who take _real_ action.
Lord knows what you're gibbering about with these absolute statements
about Jews.
Some Jews would rebel, as in those that belong to the Jewish Defense
League, which is no different than neo-Nazis, really; just substitute
"white" for "Jew" and you could have a Stormfront website. It is amazing
what you can get away with if you are a protected minority.
Other Jews not only wouldn't fight, but would help the tyrants.
You can't really tell what people would do just because they're Jewish.
There may be a statistical TENDENCY for them to go one way or the other,
but almost all sweeping generalizations about the whole population are
false other than statements like "Jewish people are Jewish".
> The ones who sit around daydreaming pure nonsense -- "check them evil
> feds with violence" -- and stewing in their juice tend to be anti-
> semites.
>
>
> Bret Cahill
>
>
>
Notan
<snip>
> I know chuck schumer has been a major anti-gun nut and he is jewish.
> I'm glad to see a list of them. You're right they do want a police
> state here in America (just like the one they had in Russia when
> hundreds of millions of russians were killed for no reason at all) A
> lot of people need to be informed that is was jews that planned and
> financed the Bolshevik Revolution - that installed red communism in
> russia and a whole bunch of other countries - leading to a HOLOCAUST
> of their innocent citizens.
>
>> There's something in Judaism, at least in the European and American
> versions, which is at nearly polar opposition to the "frontier ethic"
> that is usually associated with Protestantism and the pioneers who
> spread West.
>
> IT's because most of those people are white and jews HATE white
> people.
>
> I've debated at least 350 jews on USA Sovereignty and Border Security
> and every one to the last person has been for open borders and letting
> the hordes come in. Also if we had guns we might be able to repel the
> invaders. Got to get them guns out.
Great.
Another "Jewish is a race" poster.
Your opinions will be considered, accordingly.
--
Notan
Lawrence Glickman
(the_blogologist) wrote:
>Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
>> what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians when they settled
>> the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
>> Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
==============================================================
>There are about 1.5 BILLION muslums in the world. There are about 10
>million Jews, 5 million in Israel. There are plenty of places the
>Palestianians could go. Why the hell do they need that tiny strip of
>desert?
Yes exactly. I see you've done the math and have the correct numbers.
The problem with that little bit of land, is that it contains HOLY
RELICS that are central to the religions to be found in that area.
For example, I will say The Dome of the Rock, the Tomb of Rachel (
which was destroyed/desecrated by the Muslims after Ariel Sharon made
a visit to it ), in fact, the burial place of Jesus, which is supposed
to be below ground in one of the churches ( is it the Dome of the
Rock?). Anyhow, the significance has little to do with Lebensraum, as
the Nazis claimed ( that's living space for non-germanic people ), and
everything to do with the Historic Significance of that particular
spot of property.
The same can be said for Mecca and Medina. They don't have a lot to
offer as cities, except in a Religious capacity. So that, IMO, is
what all the fighting is about. Who gets to possess the Holy Relics.
>> I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Israel modeled its'
>> imperialism after the USA's modus operandi.
>
>To plunder the land for it's non-existant natural resorces i'll bet.
I wasn't around when this happened, AFAIK, but word has it that God
spoke to Moses at Mount Sinai and told him of a Promised Land. That
if Moses could get the Jews to turn away from golden calfs and drunken
fornication, and if Moses could get them to tow the line and be
*good,* as in obeying the 10 Commandments, then they would be rewarded
with the Promised Land.
This sounded like a good idea to everyone at the time, since they had
wandered as nomads in the desert for 40 years after Egypt was forced
to free the Jews from bondage by Plagues and a visit from the Angel of
Death that slew the first born of every Egyptian family ( this is
PASSOVER, which is also known as PESACH ), when the Angel of Death
"passed over" the houses of the Jews which were identified with blood
on the door lentils, and a Mezuzah. It is a deeply religious time of
year in Israel to many people.
So you have your Christians who say Jesus is buried there and that is
their rationale for staying; in fact he was born and lived in the
region, and the books of the Bible describe his entire life and death
occurring in that area alone. I guess he didn't have a Club Med Card
at the time.
The Muslims who claim Mohammed the Prophet has a connection with Mecca
and Medina, where he stepped off the Holy Rock and ascended into
Heaven, and then you have the Jews, who claim this is the *birthplace*
of their religion, and the locus of monotheism. That all makes it an
international area in my opinion, and it should belong to the world,
but the people there feel differently.
The Jews say "God gave it to us"
The Muslims say "This is the land of Mohammed"
The Christians say "This is the land of Jesus"
So, they fight over who gets what, and fight they do.
>> Speaking for myself, I would make it a CRIME for law-abiding US
>> citizens to not be armed. It puts excess burden on Law enforcement
>> agencies and contributes to the escalating crime wave that is sweeping
>> the United States.
>>
>> How many banks do you think would be robbed if the perps knew that
>> each teller had an Uzi slung over their shoulder, ready to rock n
>> roll.
>>
>> Lg
>
>More unarmed people died in ONE year of Hitler's death camps than have
>died in the entire history of civilian gun crime in the US. If they
>really wanted to fight crime in the US they'd take the cable TV out of
>prison cells. If they do ban guns, there's likely to be mass
>non-compliance, as indicated by the massive amount of buying that went
>on in gun shows prior to Clinton's gun ban. What would flooding our
>courts with "gun crimes" do to crime in general?
The courts in the US are already flooded way way beyond the capacity
to handle the caseloads, and thus, THE PLEA. ( plea bargain), which
endeavors to circumvent the need for Habeas Corpus and a criminal
trial.
Go to www.pbs.org and then to Frontline, and watch the program "The
Plea." It explains all this in detail.
I see the savagery of the world has not changed over the millennia,
just the weaponry. It is why I have both edged weapons and firearms.
I cannot rely on The State to care about my welfare, unless there is a
dollar in it for them. Although to be fair, I think I do have one of
the finest Emergency First Responder teams in the country right here
where I live. They've saved my life so many times by now, I've really
lost count.
But I still need weapons for the few minutes it takes help to arrive
when under assault from criminals, because it is in those few minutes
when it is decided whether you and your loved ones live or die.
And then there is always the possibility of our Government crumbling
to dust. Don't laugh...it happened in Rome. And when things go tits
up and the next war is fought on our territory, in our neighborhoods
and cities, in our backyards, we need a way to defend ourselves.
think KOSOVO and SERBIA. Think CONCENTRATION AND RAPE CAMPS. Think
rogue KILLING SQUADS ( Einsatzgruppen ). This happened under
Clinton's watch when Yugoslavia split apart along sectarian lines.
Don't think the same thing can't happen again, or was only limited to
The German Situation.
Lg
edi...@netpath.net
> I don't think their mindset will change just by individual Jews having
> an epiphany. It will likely take a major reformation, a la the
> Reformation the Catholics went through to become (many of them)
> Protestants.
It would be GENERATIONS off. For it to occur, it would require
that the average American Jew actually pursue careers with useful
skills in a tactical or strategic sense - rather than social-work
degrees, doctorates, or law degrees. It would require that there be
more American Jews who were skilled basic gunsmiths than social
workers, more American Jews who were nurses and not neurosurgeons,
more American Jews who were police officers and not lawyers, for the
American Jewish community to be tactically capable like its Israeli
counterpart.
Lawrence Glickman
<edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
More bullshit from the editor. What makes you so certain that a
Jewish:
social worker
PhD
Lawyer
neurosurgeon
couldn't or wouldn't blow your shit away in a heartbeat if push turned
to shove? You are delusional. I don't know any doctors of medicine,
or Jews, or Intelligentsia of the Jewish faith, or Jewish lawyers,
that do =not= have firearms and know how to use them.
You are really disconnected from the real world. What a way to go
through Life. Living in an alternate universe.
Lg
Notan
As a Jew in the field of medicine, and one who is armed to the teeth,
I'd be more than happy to show editor what happens when my family, or
I, am put in a life threatening situation.
--
Notan
boat
> It would be GENERATIONS off. For it to occur, it would require
> that the average American Jew actually pursue careers with useful
> skills in a tactical or strategic sense - rather than social-work
> degrees, doctorates, or law degrees.
>
truck, cab or the army. Degrees, doctorates, and law degrees are for lefties,
there are plenty of jobs that don't need a degree. Education is over rated,
and the schools are hotbeds of liberalism and socialist thinking. They're no
place for young, impressionable minds and should be rethought with the idea of
closure.
Notan
None of your pros could exist without your cons, and vice versa.
--
Notan
fla...@verizon.net
On 7-Apr-2007, "Avenger" <ave...@avengers.co.uk> wrote:
> "Tim May" <tim...@removethis.got.net> wrote in message
> news:060420072008371158%tim...@removethis.got.net...
> > In article <1175914182.6...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> > <"inkyb...@yahoo.com"> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Strangely, and pathetically, many American Evangelical Christians
> >> worship Israel as the body of God and are devout supporters of Jews,
>
> These people are devout fools and do not represent real Christians.
And the Irony Fairy has a coronary.
Stay killfiled, lying coward.
Susan
Boed...@isp.com
> On 7-Apr-2007, "Avenger" <aven...@avengers.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > "Tim May" <timc...@removethis.got.net> wrote in message
> >news:060420072008371158%tim...@removethis.got.net...
> > > In article <1175914182.610393.267...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> > > <"inkybla...@yahoo.com"> wrote:
>
> > >> Strangely, and pathetically, many American Evangelical Christians
> > >> worship Israel as the body of God and are devout supporters of Jews,
>
> > These people are devout fools and do not represent real Christians.
>
> And the Irony Fairy has a coronary.
> Stay killfiled, lying coward.
"Lying" - That's 6086
"Killfile" - The Net equivalent of earplugs
for the braindead".
In your case we can see why.
>
> Susan
PK Smith
> >million Jews, 5 million in Israel. There are plenty of places the
> >Palestianians could go. Why the hell do they need that tiny strip of
> >desert?
The Muslims are now in Israel, New York and London obtaining hair
samples, nail shavings, blood samples, etc ... of all admitted Jews.
DNA is being extracted, analyzed and filed. Every Jew and their
offspring will be brought to Medina for 'processing'. They can run,
but they can't hide.
Its just a matter of time before the Jewish issue is settled once and
for all.
the wharf rat
PK Smith <PSmit...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Its just a matter of time before the Jewish issue is settled once and
>for all.
>
Wacko.
Lawrence Glickman
In less than 5 seconds, this Jew can put more holes in you than Mother
Nature did. Don't even think about it.
Lg
edi...@netpath.net
quoted me:
> > It would be GENERATIONS off. For it to occur, it would require
> >that the average American Jew actually pursue careers with useful
> >skills in a tactical or strategic sense - rather than social-work
> >degrees, doctorates, or law degrees. It would require that there be
> >more American Jews who were skilled basic gunsmiths than social
> >workers, more American Jews who were nurses and not neurosurgeons,
> >more American Jews who were police officers and not lawyers, for the
> >American Jewish community to be tactically capable like its Israeli
> >counterpart.
and replied:
> More bullshit from the editor. What makes you so certain that a
> Jewish:
> social worker
> PhD
> Lawyer
> neurosurgeon
> couldn't or wouldn't blow your shit away in a heartbeat if push turned
> to shove?
On an INDIVIDUAL basis, maybe. On an AVERAGE basis, who would you
rather have on your side if your area of operations turned into
complete social chaos - a gunsmith or a social worker, a nurse or a
neurosurgeone, a police officer or a professor? And religion wouldn't
matter - other than that American Jews are much more likely to be in
the tactically-useless jobs than in any they'd have spent a career
learning tactically-useful skills.
Avenger
> Check the list of businesses that officially support gun
> control posted her by Patriot Games. Then check how many of them are
> owned by Jews (few, if any). An asshole is an asshole, be he Jewish or
> Gentile. You want to simplify everything by making everything that's
> wrong the fault of the Jews. There's a terrible price to pay if you
> were to be successful. It wasn't Jewish criminals that ruined Germany;
> Gentile criminals did that.
Check out the board of directors and shareholders first. Those are the
owners of the business.
PK Smith
> >for all.
> In less than 5 seconds, this Jew can put more holes in you than Mother
> Nature did. Don't even think about it.
Complain all you want ... it won't stop what the Muslims are doing.
They are now collecting DNA samples. Whether in 10 years or 1000
years, all Jews will be "processed" because of DNA samples taken
throughout the late-1990s. It was a mistake for Jews to push their way
into Palestine. They will eventually be pushed out.
Gunner
Need extra ammo for Wave 2...Ill send ya a spam can.
Gunner
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying,
take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations,
analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer,
cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects. Lazarus Long
Gunner
Palestine? Wheres that? Whats its capital?
the_blogologist
> On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 10:00:24 -0700, nob...@nowheres.com
> (the_blogologist) wrote:
>
> >Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
> >> what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians when they settled
> >> the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
> >> Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
>
> ==============================================================
> >There are about 1.5 BILLION muslums in the world. There are about 10
> >million Jews, 5 million in Israel. There are plenty of places the
> >Palestianians could go. Why the hell do they need that tiny strip of
> >desert?
>
> Yes exactly. I see you've done the math and have the correct numbers.
> The problem with that little bit of land, is that it contains HOLY
> RELICS that are central to the religions to be found in that area.
> For example, I will say The Dome of the Rock, the Tomb of Rachel ....
That was the justification for the Crusades.
TTan
Just look at any map prior to 1918
Lawrence Glickman
>> Palestine? Wheres that? Whats its capital?
>
>Just look at any map prior to 1918
Maps change. I mean, where is Rhodesia for example? You need to
accept change. If you can't accept change, you are doomed.
Lg
Lawrence Glickman
(the_blogologist) wrote:
and rumor has it that Hitler was after the Ark of the Covenant. That
is the original container of the original 10 Commandments. And the
search for the holy Grau (cup) Grail, that Jesus drank from at the
last supper, and the lance that pierced Jesus' side to end his torment
on the cross, as Schicklegrubber thought that his armies could not be
defeated if they possessed these relics.
I can't help but wonder if that had something to do with Rommel's
Africa Corps and his adventures in the region.
Don Ocean
Actually a 1956 map still shows Palestine.. And Ersatz Israel was never
to be an enclave of just Jews. The murderous racist Zionists made it so!
The murdered and pillage the Arab majority out of their birthright and
the mutual gift of land from the UN. The Jews do need to be separated
from decent society and isolated for all time.
>
PK Smith
> Maps change. I mean, where is Rhodesia for example? You need to
> accept change. If you can't accept change, you are doomed.
Using your Jew logic, you won't mind when in 2025 when the DNA
collecting Muslims have 'cleansed' Palestine, and all maps are
returned to pre-infestation.
Lawrence Glickman
wrote:
>Lawrence Glickman wrote:
>> On 9 Apr 2007 03:55:59 -0700, "TTan" <PSmit...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Palestine? Wheres that? Whats its capital?
>>> Just look at any map prior to 1918
>>
>> Maps change. I mean, where is Rhodesia for example? You need to
>> accept change. If you can't accept change, you are doomed.
>>
>> Lg
=============================================================
>Actually a 1956 map still shows Palestine..
What does that have to do with anything. My calendar say it is 2007
> And Ersatz Israel was never
>to be an enclave of just Jews.
Says who, you?
> The murderous racist Zionists made it so!
Israel doesn't hold a candle to the U.S.A. when it comes to murdering
innocent civilians.
>The murdered and pillage the Arab majority out of their birthright and
>the mutual gift of land from the UN.
The arabians never accepted the UN solution.
> The Jews do need to be separated
>from decent society and isolated for all time.
In terms of carnage, the Israelis are a model society compared to the
USA.
Lg
Lawrence Glickman
I will eviscerate anyone or any entity that attempts to harm any Jew
within my reach. this time around, expect a real armageddon.
Bearkiller
Lawrence Glickman wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:21:45 -0700, Tim May
> <tim...@removethis.got.net> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <hb8d13dpdvmdc8d55...@4ax.com>, Lawrence
>>Glickman <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>UPDATE:
>>>
>>>January, 2007:
>>>A Jew named Glickie ( to his friends ) announces that All
>>>non-criminals are required by Law to arm themselves in order to
>>>fulfill the MANDATE of the 2nd Ammendment to the Constitution of the
>>>United States of America. Those unable to prove gun ownership are
>>>fined and/or sent to prison.
>>
>>"Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Rights" contacted me several
>>years ago to ask if they could use part or all of one of my essays. I
>>said "Sure," inasmuch as I had their comic book about why Jews need to
>>move away from their very real (for the most part) anti-gun,
>>pro-government liberal mindset.
>>
>>(I never bothered to see if or where my essay got used by them...)
>>
>>
>>There's something in Judaism, at least in the European and American
>>versions, which is at nearly polar opposition to the "frontier ethic"
>>that is usually associated with Protestantism and the pioneers who
>>spread West.
>>
>>Some likely contributors to this mindset:
>>
>>-- Jews and minions. Righteous Jews are supposed to live close enough
>>to a synogogue and the males are supposed to live close enough to
>>enough other Jewish males to form a "minion." Google for details if
>>interested. This is similar to Catholics and Muslims. By contrast,
>>Protestants in their Reformation established the "every man can
>>communicate with God" view, without some priest, rabbi, imam, or other
>>such intermediary. This made moving out to the wilds of Oklahoma or
>>Oregon or Alaska, living far from others, permissable. Most Jews stayed
>>in established cities.
>>
>>As a result, Jews never full absorbed the "self-defense" culture. To
>>most Jews, calling the local policeman is their idea of self-defense.
>>Being good with a rifle and six-shooter is alien to them. For the most
>>part.
>>
>>-- Obedience to authority. Jews have historically survived pogroms by
>>"lowering their eyes" and deferring to authority, by sacrificing some
>>of their own, and by paying bribes to keep their inner city ghettoes
>>(the term before it came to refer to negroes and Mexicans) secure.
>>
>>(This had dire consequences for them in WW II, where aside from the
>>Warsaw Uprising, 99% of Jews obediently reported to the train stations
>>for their train rides, where virtually no SS officers were killed by
>>Jews using their guns to fight, and where ghetto leaders often assisted
>>the Germans in their plans.)
>>
>>(And it is well-documented that German Jews applauded Hitler's actions
>>on gun control in the early 1930s. They thought that collecting
>>privately-owned guns would make them safer. They thought wrong.)
>>
>>-- A focus on "the Law." The exteme focus on minutiae of the Torah and
>>the detailed picking-apart of subtle subtexts is part of the Jewish
>>culture. This is why so many Jews become lawyers. "Nothing is settled
>>by force" is their chant. Thus, people defending themselves and their
>>property with guns is alien to this "everything is about the Law"
>>mindset.
>>
>>-- General liberalism. Jews are so obviously at the forefront of modern
>>liberalism that it's almost trite to mention it. But it goes a long way
>>toward explaining why so many Jews are against the Second Amendment,
>>why so many Jews in Congress have led the way for gun control, and why
>>Jews in the judiciary have consistently ruled in favor of taking away
>>"cowboy" rights.
>>
>>-- The whole mantra of "Never again!" in modern Israel is basically an
>>acknowledgement that Jews became associated with disarmament, not
>>fighting back, getting beat-up by healthier boys in school, and so on.
>>The image of the Jew as a fey teen with side curls, rocking and moaning
>>as he studied obscure 2500-year-old texts, getting sand kicked in his
>>face, obediently reporting to the train station for "resettlement," all
>>of this is why the survivors said "Never again."
>>
>>(I happen to think Zionism is a sick philosophy, and getting the United
>>Nations to endorse the expulsion of those already living in a
>>region--and there for many centuries, as the Palestinians are a whole
>>lot more "Semitic" than some scrawny Jews from Krakow and Paris and
>>Berlin are!--so that these skinny Jews could build a new socialist
>>nation, complete with communes and collectives and state-owned
>>companies, is sick. Further, the numbers surrounding them mean it's
>>only a matter of time before they are overrun or nuked or gassed or all
>>of the above.)
>>
>>I'm not religious at all. I have no belief in goddesses or sprites or
>>demons or gods or fairies or djinns or an afterlife or a soul or heaven
>>or hell.
>>
>>So I view Judaism as just one more cult. And its cult beliefs are
>>fundamentally liberal (in the modern liberal sense) and fundamentally
>>anti-liberty.
>>
>>Congratulations to the 3-5% of Jews in America who support gun rights
>>and the notion of self-defense and protection from Big Government. But
>>the other 95% are not worth a bucket of spit.
>>
>>
>>--Tim May
>
>
> You speak of zionism as if it is some kind of disease.
Zionism is a mental disease which is, unfortunately, being underwritten
today by the US government.
> It is exactly
> what the Puritans did when they *settled* the USA, which was not the
> USA at the time of their invasion.
Puritanism was and still is a disease affecting America. The invasion
of Iraq "for their own good" is puritanism at it finest.
> I detect just a bit of hypocrisy
> here. IOW, the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
> what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians when they settled
> the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
> Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
The problem with that is, civilization worldwide has abandoned
colonialization, except for a pass granted to the zionists. That's
proven to have been and currently is a huge mistake. I'd rather have
seen all of the Zionists come to America and settle in Nevada or
Redding, California.
> I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Israel modeled its'
> imperialism after the USA's modus operandi.
No, modeled like the National Socialists from that country that killed
so many of them. Apparently Zionists loved National Socialism, just
hated this one narrow aspect of the German variety, or rather retargeted
that aspect to the Palestinians. Zionists needed more leibensraum.
Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
> Speaking for myself, I would make it a CRIME for law-abiding US
> citizens to not be armed. It puts excess burden on Law enforcement
> agencies and contributes to the escalating crime wave that is sweeping
> the United States.
While I agree that everyone should be armed in America, it's typical
Zionist thinking to use coercion to put an idea into action. If an idea
has merit, it must be sold on its' merits, not through the use of force.
> How many banks do you think would be robbed if the perps knew that
> each teller had an Uzi slung over their shoulder, ready to rock n
> roll.
>
> Lg
Never underestimate the power of fools. The robber of a gun store who
walked past a police car to get in the front door immediately found that
his DNA line ended.
Bearkiller
Lawrence Glickman wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:32:38 GMT, "Avenger" <ave...@avengers.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> I detect just a bit of hypocrisy
>>
>>>here. IOW, the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
>>>what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians
>>
>>Not at all similiar. There were very few "indians" around and they were not
>>thrown off their land by the Puritans.Palestine is a densely populated area
>>whcih was taken over by European refugees.
>
>
> Liar. There were millions of Indians. And they were systematically
> murdered by the US Govn't Cavalry.
You're confabulating the planned murders of the plains Indians by the
same Union officers after they'd waged total war against the Confederate
States with early Puritan immigration. The Puritans settled on
non-occupied land, and later bought more land from it's owners, or were
given land for siding with one group of Indians against another group of
Indians. You're a little shy on your history.
>>when they settled
>>
>>>the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
>>>Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
>>>
>>>I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Israel modeled its'
>>>imperialism after the USA's modus operandi.
>>>
>>>Speaking for myself, I would make it a CRIME for law-abiding US
>>>citizens to not be armed. It puts excess burden on Law enforcement
>>>agencies and contributes to the escalating crime wave that is sweeping
>>>the United States.
>>
>>Crime is actually down to a 1/3 of what is was 20 years ago.
>
>
> Bullshit. It has never been higher. 2/3rds of cases never make it to
> the Court System because that would bring the Judicial Process to a
> grinding halt from overload. You LIE again.
Crime is tied to the percentage of the population that are between the
ages of 14 and 21, and the percentage that are aliens and minorities.
>>>How many banks do you think would be robbed if the perps knew that
>>>each teller had an Uzi slung over their shoulder, ready to rock n
>>>roll.
>>
>>Banks today have bullet proof glass between the tellers and customers.
>
>
> Where is that? Not around here they don't. THEY DO NOT. Currency
> exchanges do, banks do not. Why the fuck do you think they get robbed
> in the first place nitwit? If they had bulletproof glass nobody could
> rob them.
>
> You're nothing but a fucking LIAR Avenger. Are you sure you don't
> work for the government disinformation agency?
>
> Lg
In Washington, DC even the Post Offices have bullet resistant glass at
the counters. Why do you think that is?
Bearkiller
Toleman wrote:
> Avenger ave...@avengers.co.uk said:
>
>>There were about 20 million(probably more like 5) "Indians" on TWO
>>continents, North and South America. In fact, 10k years ago when they came
>>here the ENTIRE population of the earth was 1 million.
>>
>
> The North American aboriginals were very offended over the DNA-based science
> that proved how they originated in Asia and crossed the ice bridge in Russia /
> Alaska, migrating south.
>
> It was "heresy" to them.
They hate even more the growing body of evidence that North America was
once home to whites BEFORE the indians came here and wiped them out.
Bearkiller
Benj wrote:
> Avenger wrote:
>
>>I detect just a bit of hypocrisy
>>
>>>here. IOW, the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
>>>what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians
>>
>>Not at all similiar. There were very few "indians" around and they were not
>>thrown off their land by the Puritans.Palestine is a densely populated area
>>whcih was taken over by European refugees.
>
>
> Obviously you never heard the story of the "Trail of Tears". The
> president was Andrew Jackson. He wanted to get rid of all Indians East
> of the Mississippi river. The Indians, being Eastern Indians and
> civilized about things did what you and I might do: Hired lawyers and
> took the case clear to the Supreme Court. The court came down
> declaring that the gummint had no right to boot Indians out of the
> East. Jackson sneered "How many [army] divisions does the Supreme
> Court have?" he called out the army, gathered up the Indians East of
> the Mississippi and shipped them all West where most either died on
> the way of were killed by Western Indians who didn't want anymore
> humans coming their way Indian or not. The only reason I'm here is my
> great grandmother married a white man and was therefore not ejected.
> Jackson did some great things fighting the financial power elite, but
> the Trail of Tears ranks right up there with Concentration camps for
> Japanese Americans and the Bonus marchers Etc. as another dark chapter
> of American hegemony.
>
The TRail of Tears episode was indeed a dark deed, particularly
considering the Cherokee had won their argument in the Supreme Court,
prompting Jackson's famous, "Let them enforce it" epithet.
Nevertheless, like many, your confabulating what happened in the 17th
century with what happened in the 19th century. You might want to
consult a settlement time line to see that.
Lawrence Glickman
wrote:
>> You speak of zionism as if it is some kind of disease.
>
>Zionism is a mental disease which is, unfortunately, being underwritten
>today by the US government.
It is no more a disease than American Nationalism. Look up the word;
you apparently were asleep during that lecture. God bless America and
all that shit. Do you think it should be different anywhere else?
Why so?
>> It is exactly
>> what the Puritans did when they *settled* the USA, which was not the
>> USA at the time of their invasion.
>
>Puritanism was and still is a disease affecting America. The invasion
>of Iraq "for their own good" is puritanism at it finest.
But you do nothing about it. All that is necessary for Evil to
prevail in the world is for good men to stand by and do nothing.
>> I detect just a bit of hypocrisy
>> here. IOW, the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
>> what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians when they settled
>> the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
>> Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
>
>The problem with that is, civilization worldwide has abandoned
>colonialization,
Tell that to the Tibetans and the Dali Lama. What horse shit. Am I
to take this essay of yours seriously?
> except for a pass granted to the zionists.
Lie. see above
> That's
>proven to have been and currently is a huge mistake.
Nothing has been proven here except your unfathomable ignorance of the
facts of reality.
> I'd rather have
>seen all of the Zionists come to America and settle in Nevada or
>Redding, California.
Then you could put a barbed wire/razor wire fence around the place and
you have your catch. Not a chance, asshole. None of us are that
stupid anymore. Remember the Warsaw Ghetto. Same modus operandi.
Some of us do learn from our mistakes.
>> I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Israel modeled its'
>> imperialism after the USA's modus operandi.
>
>No, modeled like the National Socialists from that country that killed
>so many of them.
In the Holohoax? Nobody was killed in the Holohoax, or haven't you
been keeping up.
> Apparently Zionists loved National Socialism, just
>hated this one narrow aspect of the German variety, or rather retargeted
>that aspect to the Palestinians. Zionists needed more leibensraum.
>Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
They'll get it after the USA turns Iran into a dustbowl. It is part
of *The Plan*
>> Speaking for myself, I would make it a CRIME for law-abiding US
>> citizens to not be armed. It puts excess burden on Law enforcement
>> agencies and contributes to the escalating crime wave that is sweeping
>> the United States.
>
>While I agree that everyone should be armed in America, it's typical
>Zionist thinking to use coercion to put an idea into action. If an idea
>has merit, it must be sold on its' merits, not through the use of force.
No coersion involved, except to wake up the sleeping sheep before they
get aboard the trucks to the slaughterhouses.
>> How many banks do you think would be robbed if the perps knew that
>> each teller had an Uzi slung over their shoulder, ready to rock n
>> roll.
>>
>> Lg
>
>Never underestimate the power of fools.
I promise not to underestimate you.
> The robber of a gun store who
>walked past a police car to get in the front door immediately found that
>his DNA line ended.
Maybe not. No doubt he left behind a bunch of half-breeds to carry on
his lineage.
Lg
Bearkiller
Bret Cahill wrote:
> The "individualist right to a gun" never appears anywhere in the
> Second Amendment
Yes it does, since natural rights are never collectively held, all
rights are the private property of individuals, therefore the right for
which protection is demanded by the Second Amendment is an intrinsic
individual right.
> and federal force has _never_ been "checked" on U. S.
> soil by individualist ownership of guns,
Yes it has, many times.
> but the real reason so few
> Jews suck on the "if I git pushed too far" pacifier is because Jews
> don't sit around indulging themselves in the fantasy that "utopia will
> break out after an individualist shoots the tax collector."
You have no idea because you have no ideals.
> Jews tend to be _real_ citizens who take _real_ action.
Really?
> The ones who sit around daydreaming pure nonsense -- "check them evil
> feds with violence" -- and stewing in their juice tend to be anti-
> semites.
>
>
> Bret Cahill
Ah, the old "anti-Semite" ad hominem. That's been thoroughtly "checked"
by both a book titled "The Politics of Anti-Semitism"1 and a scholarly
article titled "The Israel Lobby"2 which was published in March of 2006
by the London Review of Books.
1. http://tinyurl.com/yr9oqt
2. http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html
Bret Cahill, still ignorant and still a big mouth.
Lawrence Glickman
wrote:
What does that have to do with the preceding paragraph?
>>>>How many banks do you think would be robbed if the perps knew that
>>>>each teller had an Uzi slung over their shoulder, ready to rock n
>>>>roll.
>>>
>>>Banks today have bullet proof glass between the tellers and customers.
>>
>>
>> Where is that? Not around here they don't. THEY DO NOT. Currency
>> exchanges do, banks do not. Why the fuck do you think they get robbed
>> in the first place nitwit? If they had bulletproof glass nobody could
>> rob them.
>>
>> You're nothing but a fucking LIAR Avenger. Are you sure you don't
>> work for the government disinformation agency?
>>
>> Lg
===============================================================
>In Washington, DC even the Post Offices have bullet resistant glass at
>the counters. Why do you think that is?
Because they don't have armed guards.
There are no such things here in Illinois. AFAIK.
Bearkiller
Ted wrote:
> Avenger ave...@avengers.co.uk said:
>
>>Then you know nothing about your own Constitution since these Rights were
>>enumerated as INDIVIDUAL rights. And US Supreme Court rulings all say this.
>>
>
> Then why, has there never been a supreme court ruling in favor of the right to
> keep and bear arms?
Judicial corruption.
Bearkiller
the_blogologist wrote:
> Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
>>what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians when they settled
>>the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
>>Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
>
>
> There are about 1.5 BILLION muslums in the world. There are about 10
> million Jews, 5 million in Israel. There are plenty of places the
> Palestianians could go. Why the hell do they need that tiny strip of
> desert?
Because it belongs to them.
Bearkiller
Lawrence Glickman wrote:
Yeah, I saw that in a Hollywood movies too, all a fabrication based on
someone's imagination. The Germans were after oil to fuel the Reich,
and nothing more.
Lawrence Glickman
wrote:
>> and rumor has it that Hitler was after the Ark of the Covenant. That
>> is the original container of the original 10 Commandments. And the
>> search for the holy Grau (cup) Grail, that Jesus drank from at the
>> last supper, and the lance that pierced Jesus' side to end his torment
>> on the cross, as Schicklegrubber thought that his armies could not be
>> defeated if they possessed these relics.
>>
>> I can't help but wonder if that had something to do with Rommel's
>> Africa Corps and his adventures in the region.
>>
>
>Yeah, I saw that in a Hollywood movies too, all a fabrication based on
>someone's imagination. The Germans were after oil to fuel the Reich,
>and nothing more.
ah so. I thought it was a little far out to believe. The oil I can
believe that. The other stuff: far-fetched. Or was it?
Gunner
>> Palestine? Wheres that? Whats its capital?
>
>Just look at any map prior to 1918
So you are admitting to being unable to provide the name and location?
Gunner
wrote:
Avenger and you are both incorrect
http://www.davidkopel.com/2A/lawrev/35finalpartone.htm
THE SUPREME COURT'S THIRTY-FIVE
OTHER GUN CASES:
WHAT THE SUPREME COURT HAS SAID
ABOUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT
David B. Kopel [FNa1]
In each and every case..they found the 2nd Amendment to be an individual
right.
Gunner
Bearkiller
Lawrence Glickman wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:24:47 -0400, Bearkiller <fas...@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>You speak of zionism as if it is some kind of disease.
>>
>>Zionism is a mental disease which is, unfortunately, being underwritten
>>today by the US government.
>
>
> It is no more a disease than American Nationalism. Look up the word;
> you apparently were asleep during that lecture. God bless America and
> all that shit. Do you think it should be different anywhere else?
> Why so?
There is nothing wrong with American Nationalism, holding up one's
national culture as an overall positive isn't wrong. Wishing to coerce
that culture upon others is wrong. Europeans who immigrated to
Palestine and stole the land of those living there were wrong.
>>>It is exactly
>>>what the Puritans did when they *settled* the USA, which was not the
>>>USA at the time of their invasion.
>>
>>Puritanism was and still is a disease affecting America. The invasion
>>of Iraq "for their own good" is puritanism at it finest.
>
>
> But you do nothing about it. All that is necessary for Evil to
> prevail in the world is for good men to stand by and do nothing.
Since I live in an area devastated by that Puritanism 140 years ago, you
really don't want to second guess what I am or am not "doing about it".
>
>>>I detect just a bit of hypocrisy
>>>here. IOW, the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
>>>what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians when they settled
>>>the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
>>>Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
>>
>>The problem with that is, civilization worldwide has abandoned
>>colonialization,
>
>
> Tell that to the Tibetans and the Dali Lama. What horse shit. Am I
> to take this essay of yours seriously?
I'm not responsible for what's happening there, you may take that up
with the Chinese embassy.
>>except for a pass granted to the zionists.
>
>
> Lie. see above
The US government isn't financing China in Tibet, it is financing the
Israeli theft of Palestinian land which continues today.
>> That's
>>proven to have been and currently is a huge mistake.
>
>
> Nothing has been proven here except your unfathomable ignorance of the
> facts of reality.
Reality? The reality is that the europeans that immigrated to Palestine
and stole the land from those living there are being financed in their
thefts by the US government, and that's wrong.
>> I'd rather have
>>seen all of the Zionists come to America and settle in Nevada or
>>Redding, California.
>
>
> Then you could put a barbed wire/razor wire fence around the place and
> you have your catch. Not a chance, asshole. None of us are that
> stupid anymore. Remember the Warsaw Ghetto. Same modus operandi.
> Some of us do learn from our mistakes.
Sice I didn't say that, it's another of your confabulations. That Jews
immigrated into and have put themselves inside a barbed wire enclosure
called Israel isn't my fault. They should have immigrated to someplace
safe, that's my point.
Where I live, Jews have been safely participating in the culture for
over 200 years, 8000 Jews fought for our unsuccessful struggle for
independence 140 years ago. One of the oldest synagogues in Amnerica is
located in my state.
>>>I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Israel modeled its'
>>>imperialism after the USA's modus operandi.
>>
>>No, modeled like the National Socialists from that country that killed
>>so many of them.
>
>
> In the Holohoax? Nobody was killed in the Holohoax, or haven't you
> been keeping up.
That's called a non sequitur.
>> Apparently Zionists loved National Socialism, just
>>hated this one narrow aspect of the German variety, or rather retargeted
>>that aspect to the Palestinians. Zionists needed more leibensraum.
>>Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
>
>
> They'll get it after the USA turns Iran into a dustbowl. It is part
> of *The Plan*
So says Ohmert.
>>>Speaking for myself, I would make it a CRIME for law-abiding US
>>>citizens to not be armed. It puts excess burden on Law enforcement
>>>agencies and contributes to the escalating crime wave that is sweeping
>>>the United States.
>>
>>While I agree that everyone should be armed in America, it's typical
>>Zionist thinking to use coercion to put an idea into action. If an idea
>>has merit, it must be sold on its' merits, not through the use of force.
>
>
> No coersion involved, except to wake up the sleeping sheep before they
> get aboard the trucks to the slaughterhouses.
If you pass a law, government enforces that law throught coercive means.
Too bad you don't seem to know that.
>>>How many banks do you think would be robbed if the perps knew that
>>>each teller had an Uzi slung over their shoulder, ready to rock n
>>>roll.
>>>
>>>Lg
>>
>>Never underestimate the power of fools.
>
>
> I promise not to underestimate you.
Very poor ad hominem.
>>The robber of a gun store who
>>walked past a police car to get in the front door immediately found that
>>his DNA line ended.
>
>
> Maybe not. No doubt he left behind a bunch of half-breeds to carry on
> his lineage.
>
> Lg
Someone has to clean the ditches.
BDK
says...
What would you know about decency, Don?
I'm surprised I can't smell you from here..
BDK
Bearkiller
Gunner wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:50:19 -0400, Bearkiller <fas...@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>the_blogologist wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
>>>>what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians when they settled
>>>>the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
>>>>Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
>>>
>>>
>>>There are about 1.5 BILLION muslums in the world. There are about 10
>>>million Jews, 5 million in Israel. There are plenty of places the
>>>Palestianians could go. Why the hell do they need that tiny strip of
>>>desert?
>>
>>Because it belongs to them.
>
>
>
> Not any more.
>
> Gunner
It will return to them in the future. The US government will be forced
to stop underwriting the Zionists in Israel, more Jews will (wisely)
leave Israel than are immigrating into or being born there, and the
muslims will simply out-populate them over time.
the_blogologist
> On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:50:19 -0400, Bearkiller <fas...@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >the_blogologist wrote:
> >
> >> Lawrence Glickman <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
> >>>what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians when they settled
> >>>the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
> >>>Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
> >>
> >>
> >> There are about 1.5 BILLION muslums in the world. There are about 10
> >> million Jews, 5 million in Israel. There are plenty of places the
> >> Palestianians could go. Why the hell do they need that tiny strip of
> >> desert?
> >
> >Because it belongs to them.
>
>
> Not any more.
LMAO!!!!
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8250/ghostofarafatga2.jpg
Lawrence Glickman
wrote:
>
>
>Lawrence Glickman wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:24:47 -0400, Bearkiller <fas...@bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>You speak of zionism as if it is some kind of disease.
>>>
>>>Zionism is a mental disease which is, unfortunately, being underwritten
>>>today by the US government.
>>
>>
>> It is no more a disease than American Nationalism. Look up the word;
>> you apparently were asleep during that lecture. God bless America and
>> all that shit. Do you think it should be different anywhere else?
>> Why so?
========================================================
>There is nothing wrong with American Nationalism, holding up one's
>national culture as an overall positive isn't wrong.
AMERICAN Nationalism? you stupid fuckstick? THAT is the *proper* one,
and everyone else is wrong about being loyal to their own countries?
You are not only a sick bastard, but a goddamn stupid one. I can't
waste my time with stupid fuck. Give me a reason to continue this
conversation. Say something intelligent.
> Wishing to coerce
>that culture upon others is wrong. Europeans who immigrated to
>Palestine and stole the land of those living there were wrong.
The niggers who turned Rhodesia into Zimbabwe were wrong too. Doesn't
change a goddamn thing now, does it. Go argue this point with Mugabe.
>>>>It is exactly
>>>>what the Puritans did when they *settled* the USA, which was not the
>>>>USA at the time of their invasion.
>>>
>>>Puritanism was and still is a disease affecting America. The invasion
>>>of Iraq "for their own good" is puritanism at it finest.
>>
>>
>> But you do nothing about it. All that is necessary for Evil to
>> prevail in the world is for good men to stand by and do nothing.
>
>Since I live in an area devastated by that Puritanism 140 years ago, you
>really don't want to second guess what I am or am not "doing about it".
You're doing nothing about it but whining.
>>>>I detect just a bit of hypocrisy
>>>>here. IOW, the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestines exactly
>>>>what the Puritans did to the indigenous Amerindians when they settled
>>>>the 13 colonies on the eastern seaboard and then proclaimed Eminent
>>>>Domain as an excuse to steal the entire casino.
>>>
>>>The problem with that is, civilization worldwide has abandoned
>>>colonialization,
>>
>>
>> Tell that to the Tibetans and the Dali Lama. What horse shit. Am I
>> to take this essay of yours seriously?
>
>I'm not responsible for what's happening there, you may take that up
>with the Chinese embassy.
So I proved you were wrong when you said "The problem with that is,
civilaztion worldwide has abandoned colonization." Here you admit to
it. That you were wrong about that, as you are so many other things.
>>>except for a pass granted to the zionists.
>>
>>
>> Lie. see above
>
>The US government isn't financing China in Tibet, it is financing the
>Israeli theft of Palestinian land which continues today.
The US government isn't only financing China, it is giving proprietary
classified weapons technology to them. Ask Billy Clinton about that.
Again you show your PROFOUND IGNORANCE. It is too deep. I see you
live in a very deep hole in the ground. What's the temperature down
there?
>>> That's
>>>proven to have been and currently is a huge mistake.
>>
>>
>> Nothing has been proven here except your unfathomable ignorance of the
>> facts of reality.
>
>Reality? The reality is that the europeans that immigrated to Palestine
>and stole the land from those living there are being financed in their
>thefts by the US government, and that's wrong.
Get a life. This happens every day. If you sincerely want to do
something about it, assassinate the guilty parties involved. Pick up
a gun and go do something about it. Bitching here on uselessnet isn't
going to get you anywhere.
>>> I'd rather have
>>>seen all of the Zionists come to America and settle in Nevada or
>>>Redding, California.
>>
>>
>> Then you could put a barbed wire/razor wire fence around the place and
>> you have your catch. Not a chance, asshole. None of us are that
>> stupid anymore. Remember the Warsaw Ghetto. Same modus operandi.
>> Some of us do learn from our mistakes.
>
>Sice I didn't say that, it's another of your confabulations. That Jews
>immigrated into and have put themselves inside a barbed wire enclosure
>called Israel isn't my fault. They should have immigrated to someplace
>safe, that's my point.
I said the WARSAW GHETTO. Do you know anything about that? Of course
you don't. You're an ignoramus. An ass. An nitwit. A cretin. An
idiot. A moron. And I bet you have a medal for each of those honors.
>Where I live, Jews have been safely participating in the culture for
>over 200 years, 8000 Jews fought for our unsuccessful struggle for
>independence 140 years ago. One of the oldest synagogues in Amnerica is
>located in my state.
THE OLDEST SYNAGOGUE in America is the one I attended in my youth:
Turo Synagogue in Newport Rhode Island. Don't try to hand me any of
your shit. I can see your crap coming before it even leaves your
keyboard.
>>>>I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Israel modeled its'
>>>>imperialism after the USA's modus operandi.
>>>
>>>No, modeled like the National Socialists from that country that killed
>>>so many of them.
>>
>>
>> In the Holohoax? Nobody was killed in the Holohoax, or haven't you
>> been keeping up.
>
>That's called a non sequitur.
No, it's called a LIE. Until you can distinguish the Truth from a
Lie, you're lost. You'll be lost forever until you get your bullshit
meter calibrated.
>>> Apparently Zionists loved National Socialism, just
>>>hated this one narrow aspect of the German variety, or rather retargeted
>>>that aspect to the Palestinians. Zionists needed more leibensraum.
>>>Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
>>
>>
>> They'll get it after the USA turns Iran into a dustbowl. It is part
>> of *The Plan*
>
>So says Ohmert.
So says -I-. I am the one feeding The Master Plan to Israel. Do you
think I would do that in a clandestine way? Fuck no. That would be
too obvious, and monitored by the CIA, FBI, NSA, etc etc. I feed the
plan in open view, where I can maintain plausible deniability.
>>>>Speaking for myself, I would make it a CRIME for law-abiding US
>>>>citizens to not be armed. It puts excess burden on Law enforcement
>>>>agencies and contributes to the escalating crime wave that is sweeping
>>>>the United States.
>>>
>>>While I agree that everyone should be armed in America, it's typical
>>>Zionist thinking to use coercion to put an idea into action. If an idea
>>>has merit, it must be sold on its' merits, not through the use of force.
>>
>>
>> No coersion involved, except to wake up the sleeping sheep before they
>> get aboard the trucks to the slaughterhouses.
>
>If you pass a law, government enforces that law throught coercive means.
> Too bad you don't seem to know that.
You apparently don't know your ass from a hole in the wall. Talk
about the pot calling the kettle black!
>>>>How many banks do you think would be robbed if the perps knew that
>>>>each teller had an Uzi slung over their shoulder, ready to rock n
>>>>roll.
>>>>
>>>>Lg
>>>
>>>Never underestimate the power of fools.
>>
>>
>> I promise not to underestimate you.
>
>Very poor ad hominem.
If the shoe fits, wear it.
>>>The robber of a gun store who
>>>walked past a police car to get in the front door immediately found that
>>>his DNA line ended.
>>
>>
>> Maybe not. No doubt he left behind a bunch of half-breeds to carry on
>> his lineage.
>>
>> Lg
>
>Someone has to clean the ditches.
So, you'll always have a job.
Lg
Flame broiled starfish
> Can I have my name on the 'Wall of Fucktards'?
Your mother put it there before you were born. She was a psychic.
Flame broiled starfish
> I'm so badass, I let my boyfriend use a nylon whip instead of a silk one!
You should stick to blowing goats. It's what you were best at.
edi...@netpath.net
> >> It would be GENERATIONS off. For it to occur, it would require
> >> that the average American Jew actually pursue careers with useful
> >> skills in a tactical or strategic sense - rather than social-work
> >> degrees, doctorates, or law degrees. It would require that there be
> >> more American Jews who were skilled basic gunsmiths than social
> >> workers, more American Jews who were nurses and not neurosurgeons,
> >> more American Jews who were police officers and not lawyers, for the
> >> American Jewish community to be tactically capable like its Israeli
> >> counterpart.
and replied:
> As a Jew in the field of medicine, and one who is armed to the teeth,
> I'd be more than happy to show editor what happens when my family, or
> I, am put in a life threatening situation.
You don't get it - at all. While you'd undoubtably do just fine
against a (lone) burglar, the reality is that - while you were in med
school - the Special Forces, SEALs, Army Rangers, and Delta were full
of redneck kids spending that same time becoming some of the best at
small-unit tactics for fighting other platoon-size groups. While
you'd undoubtably do just fine against a lone burglar, countless black
and Hispanic kids - their small-unit-fighting skills honed (if
roughly) in gang wars - got pretty good at squad-level fighting during
the years you spent in med school, then went on to Iraq to get more
practice while you did internship in some stateside hospital.
Just the - realistic - observations of a Jewish redneck and
Southerner who's spent much more time shooting than in synagogue-board
meetings.
No $4 to park! No $6 admission! http://www.INTERNET-GUN-SHOW.com
edi...@netpath.net
> > Get real. At least 7/8 of Jews in America live in core urban Blue
> > Nation - and much more reflect the leftist politics of that area than
> > its politics reflect theirs. Is Catholic Ted Kennedy any less anti-
> > gun than Jewish Feinswine?
and replied:
> NY is mostly country and a lot of people own firearms. NYC is a tiny part of
> NYS where 1/2 the population lives. Even there a lot of people own firearms.
But - like I said - it's that New York City metro area that most
all of the state's Jews live in, and (for that matter) an estimated
half of America's Jewish population. You may not realize this posting
from Britain - but I as a Jew (and right-winger) would estimate over
87% of American Jews live in just four metro areas, all liberal: New
York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, Miami. Most American Jews are wildly
out of touch with how people in most all of America think as a result.
Bearkiller
Lawrence Glickman wrote:
You're string of ad hominem attacks has lost you any chance at winning
this debate. You've presented no facts, no rebuttal, and have whimpered
through it all.
Bye now.
Lawrence Glickman
wrote:
You useless shit. You didn't address even ONE of my contentions.
Useless shit. Back to jail you go. and Fuck You. SLAM! (sound of
solitary confinement door being shut).
Notan
Which is fine with me.
Until I'm ready to attack/defend an entire village, my training and
mini arsenal are quite adequate to defend my family and myself.
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Notan