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krp

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:22:10 PM12/18/09
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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>>> > Dan Sullivan wrote "I was founded for SA of my daughter back in '93."
>>> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/...

>>> I LOVE IT when DANNY tries to deny his LONG child abuse history,

>> DJS#3> My child abuse history is nothing but WINS against CPS.

>> Yes ATTORNEY SULLIVAN - EVERYONE believes you are the BEST LAWYER in
>> America! They ALL should HIRE YOU to represent them.

> No one needs to be a lawyer to prove CPS' "credible evidence" to be less
> than credible or even fabricated.

> The evidence I used to prove the CPS decisions to be in error WERE THEIR
> OWN DOCUMENTS!!

> The first time I used an attorney, the last four I did it on my own.


Sullivan amazing that you toss rocks at Greg when YOU have been accused
far MORE time than he has. Also, as I understand it, none of Greg's cases
with regard to the child have had a final determination yet. You have lots
of guts pointing your fingers at him when your own life is so far les than
exemplary. Old saying, Sullivan that YOU need to consider; "Whenever you
point your finger at somebody, you should remember that 4 of your fingers
are pointing back at yourself."

With Greg's DV - - MISDEMEANORS - remember his lawyer coerced him to
accept a plea bargain. Greg didn't know any better that he should have
fought it.

Dan Sullivan

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"krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4b2bd632$0$22523$607e...@cv.net...
>
>>>> > Dan Sullivan wrote "I was founded for SA of my daughter back in '93."
>>>> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/...
>
>>>> I LOVE IT when DANNY tries to deny his LONG child abuse history,
>
>>> DJS#3> My child abuse history is nothing but WINS against CPS.
>
>>> Yes ATTORNEY SULLIVAN - EVERYONE believes you are the BEST LAWYER in
>>> America! They ALL should HIRE YOU to represent them.
>
>> No one needs to be a lawyer to prove CPS' "credible evidence" to be less
>> than credible or even fabricated.
>
>> The evidence I used to prove the CPS decisions to be in error WERE THEIR
>> OWN DOCUMENTS!!
>
>> The first time I used an attorney, the last four I did it on my own.
>
> Sullivan amazing that you toss rocks at Greg when YOU have been accused
> far MORE time than he has.

Accusations mean nothing.

> Also, as I understand it, none of Greg's cases with regard to the child
> have had a final determination yet.

LOL!!!

Who told you that?

grag?

> You have lots of guts pointing your fingers at him when your own life is
> so far les than exemplary.

CPS' own expert indicated to a FC Judge that my children are the "foundation
of my life."

grag's been convicted twice for abusing a mentally ill woman.

And he's listed on the Iowa State Child Abuse Registry..

> Old saying, Sullivan that YOU need to consider; "Whenever you point your
> finger at somebody, you should remember that 4 of your fingers are
> pointing back at yourself."
>
> With Greg's DV - - MISDEMEANORS - remember his lawyer coerced him to
> accept a plea bargain. Greg didn't know any better that he should have
> fought it.

grag agreed to the plea bargain.

I believe he was in his mid thirties... and you claim he didn't "know any
better" by then?

You must really think he's a schlub.

BTW this was the second time he was arrested for DV.

The first time he went to trial and was found GUILTY by the jury.

So grag accepting a plea doesn't seem like a bad idea.


Greegor

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Dec 18, 2009, 11:41:33 PM12/18/09
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Dan, As usual, you've taken bits of truth and mixed them
into a salad that is called a half-truth or a lie.

When are you going to explain how you hooked up
with a freakin mental case and made BABIES with her?

What kind of sick MOFO does stuff like that?

Were you locked in the same psych ward with her or what?

Is Susan also a freakin' mental case?

Feb 2002


Dan Sullivan wrote "I was founded for SA of my daughter back in '93."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/52b49e5611d619ea

Feb 2002 Dan Sullivan wrote
'The "credible evidence" was my (3 yo) daughter's statement that "My
daddy touches me with the puppet bear in the toilet." '
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/52b49e5611d619ea

How could KLS have been 3 in 1993 when
she lists publicly as being 25 now?

Feb 2002 Dan Sullivan wrote
"My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/52b49e5611d619ea

April 2004 Dan Sullivan wrote
"My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/d15f8e338226b780

July 2007 Dan Sullivan wrote
"My daddy touches me with the puppet bear in the toilet."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.foster-parents/msg/2d04c26b08f9f2b9

krp

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> > Dan Sullivan wrote "I was founded for SA of my daughter back in
>>>>> > '93."
>>>>> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/...
>>
>>>>> I LOVE IT when DANNY tries to deny his LONG child abuse history,
>>
>>>> DJS#3> My child abuse history is nothing but WINS against CPS.
>>
>>>> Yes ATTORNEY SULLIVAN - EVERYONE believes you are the BEST LAWYER in
>>>> America! They ALL should HIRE YOU to represent them.
>>
>>> No one needs to be a lawyer to prove CPS' "credible evidence" to be less
>>> than credible or even fabricated.
>>
>>> The evidence I used to prove the CPS decisions to be in error WERE THEIR
>>> OWN DOCUMENTS!!
>>
>>> The first time I used an attorney, the last four I did it on my own.
>>
>> Sullivan amazing that you toss rocks at Greg when YOU have been
>> accused far MORE time than he has.
>
> Accusations mean nothing.
>
>> Also, as I understand it, none of Greg's cases with regard to the child
>> have had a final determination yet.
>
> LOL!!!
>
> Who told you that?

The Iowa courts show the main case as still "active" Danny. But that
screws up your BULLSHIT vendetta against Greg because he "DARED" disagree
with the GREAT DAN SULLIVAN all those years ago. Sullivan you are full of
yourself. Which means you are shit.


Kent Wills

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Dec 19, 2009, 4:21:52 AM12/19/09
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:22:10 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
wrote:

>
>"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:4b2bd632$0$22523$607e...@cv.net...
>
>>>> > Dan Sullivan wrote "I was founded for SA of my daughter back in '93."
>>>> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/...
>
>>>> I LOVE IT when DANNY tries to deny his LONG child abuse history,
>
>>> DJS#3> My child abuse history is nothing but WINS against CPS.
>
>>> Yes ATTORNEY SULLIVAN - EVERYONE believes you are the BEST LAWYER in
>>> America! They ALL should HIRE YOU to represent them.
>
>> No one needs to be a lawyer to prove CPS' "credible evidence" to be less
>> than credible or even fabricated.
>
>> The evidence I used to prove the CPS decisions to be in error WERE THEIR
>> OWN DOCUMENTS!!
>
>> The first time I used an attorney, the last four I did it on my own.
>
>
> Sullivan amazing that you toss rocks at Greg when YOU have been accused
>far MORE time than he has.

Greg has more founded accusations.

>Also, as I understand it, none of Greg's cases
>with regard to the child have had a final determination yet.

Greg has claimed there is, further, I cited applicable laws that
show the SoL expired after two years.

>You have lots
>of guts pointing your fingers at him when your own life is so far les than
>exemplary. Old saying, Sullivan that YOU need to consider; "Whenever you
>point your finger at somebody, you should remember that 4 of your fingers
>are pointing back at yourself."
>

But only the one is pointing to the guilty party.

> With Greg's DV - - MISDEMEANORS -

Why do you try to minimize Greg's BEATING of his ex-wife?

>remember his lawyer coerced him to
>accept a plea bargain. Greg didn't know any better that he should have
>fought it.
>

Only in regards to one conviction for BEATING his ex-wife. He
went to trial for the other one and was found guilty.
So completely proved was his guilt that when an appeal was filed,
the Iowa Supreme Court refused to listen to arguments. That's some
SERIOUS guilt on the part of Greg.


"Sometimes Greg is sloppy with things like that. I would agree the
significance of the difference may be just a wee bit over his head"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team commenting on his ONLY
on-line friend, Gregory Scott Hanson.

Kent Wills

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Dec 19, 2009, 4:22:02 AM12/19/09
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On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:03:38 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
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[...]

>>> Also, as I understand it, none of Greg's cases with regard to the child
>>> have had a final determination yet.
>>
>> LOL!!!
>>
>> Who told you that?
>
> The Iowa courts show the main case as still "active" Danny.

They didn't back in January.
Please prove the courts show Greg's case as still active, or
"active." Unless, of course, I've just exposed another of your MANY
drunken pathological lies.

>But that
>screws up your BULLSHIT vendetta against Greg because he "DARED" disagree
>with the GREAT DAN SULLIVAN all those years ago. Sullivan you are full of
>yourself. Which means you are shit.

I've never seen Dan display any negativity towards anyone who
honestly disagreed with him.
Greg only attacks Dan because Dan beat CPS, and Greg is so
pro-CPS that any parent winning MUST be attacked. This is a truth
PROVED by Greg's own posts.

"And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
fan and GAY lover."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team, LYING
and claiming David Moore is his gay lover. Message-ID:
<_MlOj.598$pH4.7@trnddc06>

Dan Sullivan

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Dec 19, 2009, 7:59:46 AM12/19/09
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On Dec 19, 4:03 am, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message

>
> news:4b2c0a98$0$31275$607e...@cv.net...
>
>
>
> >>>>> > Dan Sullivan wrote "I was founded for SA of my daughter back in
> >>>>> > '93."
> >>>>> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/...
>
> >>>>> I LOVE IT when DANNY tries to deny his LONG child abuse history,
>
> >>>> DJS#3> My child abuse history is nothing but WINS against CPS.
>
> >>>>    Yes ATTORNEY SULLIVAN - EVERYONE believes you are the BEST LAWYER in
> >>>> America! They ALL should HIRE YOU to represent them.
>
> >>> No one needs to be a lawyer to prove CPS' "credible evidence" to be less
> >>> than credible or even fabricated.
>
> >>> The evidence I used to prove the CPS decisions to be in error WERE THEIR
> >>> OWN DOCUMENTS!!
>
> >>> The first time I used an attorney, the last four I did it on my own.
>
> >>    Sullivan amazing that you toss rocks at Greg when YOU have been
> >> accused far MORE time than he has.
>
> > Accusations mean nothing.
>
> >> Also, as I understand it, none of Greg's cases with regard to the child
> >> have had a final determination yet.
>
> > LOL!!!
>
> > Who told you that?
>
>     The Iowa courts show the main case as still "active" Danny.

But, according to grag, the county already made their decision.

You claim to have won hundreds of cases in Iowa, pangborn, how is it
you don't know that Iowa CPS only has a matter of a few months to make
a final determination in a CPS case?

Are you claiming that the Iowa authorities have chosen to extend the
Lisa Watkins determination to over eight years?


krp

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> >>>>> > Dan Sullivan wrote "I was founded for SA of my daughter back in
> >>>>> > '93."
> >>>>> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/...
>
> >>>>> I LOVE IT when DANNY tries to deny his LONG child abuse history,
>
> >>>> DJS#3> My child abuse history is nothing but WINS against CPS.
>
> >>>> Yes ATTORNEY SULLIVAN - EVERYONE believes you are the BEST LAWYER in
> >>>> America! They ALL should HIRE YOU to represent them.
>
> >>> No one needs to be a lawyer to prove CPS' "credible evidence" to be
> >>> less
> >>> than credible or even fabricated.
>
> >>> The evidence I used to prove the CPS decisions to be in error WERE
> >>> THEIR
> >>> OWN DOCUMENTS!!
>
> >>> The first time I used an attorney, the last four I did it on my own.
>
> >> Sullivan amazing that you toss rocks at Greg when YOU have been
> >> accused far MORE time than he has.
>
> > Accusations mean nothing.
>
> >> Also, as I understand it, none of Greg's cases with regard to the child
> >> have had a final determination yet.
>
> > LOL!!!
>
> > Who told you that?
>
> The Iowa courts show the main case as still "active" Danny.

DJS#3> But, according to grag, the county already made their decision.

The social worker did, but the COURT has NOT to what I can tell.

Dan Sullivan

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"krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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pangborn, you posted "as I understand it, none of grag's cases with regard

to the child have had a final determination yet."

Then only a matter of minutes later you admit CPS has made a determination.

Is grag lying to you or are you lying for him?

You claim to have won hundreds of cases in Iowa.

How is it you don't know that CPS and Family Court are two different forums
making two separate determinations??

You claim "the Iowa courts show the main case as still "active.""

Post the link to the Iowa website showing the "main case" as still being
"active.""

I'd like to see what you're basing your statement on.

And what are the minor cases you aren't referring to?

Has grag told you he's filed a law suit against the authorities in Iowa in
regards to the removal of Lisa Watkins daughter?

Greegor

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Dec 19, 2009, 2:07:27 PM12/19/09
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Dan put out a subject title that said:
Dan Sullivan has not a single founded CPS reports in any State's
Central Registry.

Prove it!

Dan himself has also claimed that he underwent 20+ investigations
and had 5 FOUNDEDS, one of them for Child Sexual Abuse.

I recently posted a news story of a child
who was in Foster Care for 4 years with
the sole basis being "suspicion of neglect".

Yet Dan pretends that his success is about
ARGUING with caseworkers in a process
that they basically own.

Dan Sullivan

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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dan put out a subject title that said:
> Dan Sullivan has not a single founded CPS reports in any State's
> Central Registry.
>
> Prove it!
>
> Dan himself has also claimed that he underwent 20+ investigations
> and had 5 FOUNDEDS, one of them for Child Sexual Abuse.

15+ and all were determined to be unfounded.

> I recently posted a news story of a child
> who was in Foster Care for 4 years with
> the sole basis being "suspicion of neglect".

So?

> Yet Dan pretends that his success is about
> ARGUING with caseworkers in a process
> that they basically own.

If you think I claimed to have won against CPS because I lied with the
caseworkers... post my exact quotes with the URLs.


Greegor

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G > Dan put out a subject title that said:
G > Dan Sullivan has not a single founded CPS reports in any State's
G > Central Registry.

G > Prove it!

Why can't you PROVE IT Dan?
What are you afraid of?

G > Dan himself has also claimed that he underwent 20+ investigations
G > and had 5 FOUNDEDS, one of them for Child Sexual Abuse.

DJS3 > 15+ and all were determined to be unfounded.

Dan, You have claimed 15, 15+ and also 20+ investigations.

Did I FORCE you to claim 20+ ?

Why are you trying to change YOUR OWN claim?


G > I recently posted a news story of a child
G > who was in Foster Care for 4 years with
G > the sole basis being "suspicion of neglect".

DJS3 > So?

How COULD that be, Dan?

Why would they remova a child for FOUR YEARS
and only have "suspicion"? Where's that
"credible evidence" you say they have to have?

G > Yet Dan pretends that his success is about
G > ARGUING with caseworkers in a process
G > that they basically own.

DJS3 > If you think I claimed to have won
DJS3 > against CPS because I lied with
DJS3 > the caseworkers... post my exact
DJS3 > quotes with the URLs.

You "claimed to have won"?
As opposed to won?

You gave yourself away, Dan!

Where did I say you lied to caseworkers?

Is your guilty concience playing tricks on you, Dan?


"The story doesn't change when you tell the truth." - Dan Sullivan

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krp

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>>
>>> >>>>> > Dan Sullivan wrote "I was founded for SA of my daughter back in
>>> >>>>> > '93."
>>> >>>>> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/...
>>>
>>> >>>>> I LOVE IT when DANNY tries to deny his LONG child abuse history,
>>>
>>> >>>> DJS#3> My child abuse history is nothing but WINS against CPS.
>>>
>>> >>>> Yes ATTORNEY SULLIVAN - EVERYONE believes you are the BEST LAWYER
>>> >>>> in
>>> >>>> America! They ALL should HIRE YOU to represent them.
>>>
>>> >>> No one needs to be a lawyer to prove CPS' "credible evidence" to be
>>> >>> less
>>> >>> than credible or even fabricated.
>>>
>>> >>> The evidence I used to prove the CPS decisions to be in error WERE
>>> >>> THEIR
>>> >>> OWN DOCUMENTS!!
>>>
>>> >>> The first time I used an attorney, the last four I did it on my own.

>>> >> Sullivan amazing that you toss rocks at Greg when YOU have been

>>> >> accused far MORE time than Greg has.

>>> > Accusations mean nothing.

>>> >> Also, as I understand it, none of Greg's cases with regard to the
>>> >> child
>>> >> have had a final determination yet.

>>> > LOL!!!

>>> > Who told you that?

>>> The Iowa courts show the main case as still "active" Danny.

>> DJS#3> But, according to grag, the county already made their decision.

>> The social worker did, but the COURT has NOT to what I can tell.

> pangborn, you posted "as I understand it, none of grag's cases with regard
> to the child have had a final determination yet."

Well Danny - it's time you NEED to start stalking Greg again. Use your
CPS pull to get the goods on Greg. After all - I **COULD** be wrong. YOU
will just have to sit and wonder how much of your BULLSHIT will eventually
blow up in your face.

Say, Sullivan, AGAIN I remind you of the challenge to you to name just
ONE THING you have done in your life (other than being a prick on Usenet)
that has been a positive contribution. Just ONE THING you have done in your
62 YEARS of life worthy of note? Some contribution to the world. Just ONE
thing Danny.

krp

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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dan put out a subject title that said:
> Dan Sullivan has not a single founded CPS reports in any State's
> Central Registry.
>
> Prove it!
>
> Dan himself has also claimed that he underwent 20+ investigations
> and had 5 FOUNDEDS, one of them for Child Sexual Abuse.


Greg you can't have THAT MANY independent reports from different people and
there not be at least SOMETHING to them.


Dan Sullivan

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Dec 19, 2009, 2:49:11 PM12/19/09
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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/495ca885dedaaa33
>
> G > Dan put out a subject title that said:
> G > Dan Sullivan has not a single founded CPS reports in any State's
> G > Central Registry.
>
> G > Prove it!
>
> Why can't you PROVE IT Dan?
> What are you afraid of?
>
> G > Dan himself has also claimed that he underwent 20+ investigations
> G > and had 5 FOUNDEDS, one of them for Child Sexual Abuse.
>
> DJS3 > 15+ and all were determined to be unfounded.
>
> Dan, You have claimed 15, 15+ and also 20+ investigations.
>
> Did I FORCE you to claim 20+ ?
>
> Why are you trying to change YOUR OWN claim?

I've said "15+" as well as "about 20."

> G > I recently posted a news story of a child
> G > who was in Foster Care for 4 years with
> G > the sole basis being "suspicion of neglect".
>
> DJS3 > So?
>
> How COULD that be, Dan?
>
> Why would they remova a child for FOUR YEARS
> and only have "suspicion"? Where's that
> "credible evidence" you say they have to have?

Let me know when you find out.

> G > Yet Dan pretends that his success is about
> G > ARGUING with caseworkers in a process
> G > that they basically own.
>
> DJS3 > If you think I claimed to have won
> DJS3 > against CPS because I lied with
> DJS3 > the caseworkers... post my exact
> DJS3 > quotes with the URLs.
>
> You "claimed to have won"?
> As opposed to won?
>
> You gave yourself away, Dan!
>
> Where did I say you lied to caseworkers?

I used the wrong word.

I'm so used to typing "lied" in response to your lies.

Should have been arguing.

> Is your guilty concience playing tricks on you, Dan?

I don't have a guilty conscience.

Dan Sullivan

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The "something" was they all were unfounded.


Greegor

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DJS3 > Dan Sullivan has not a single founded CPS
DJS3 > reports in any State's Central Registry.

G > Prove it!

G> Dan himself has also claimed that he
G > underwent 20+ investigations and had
G > 5 FOUNDEDS, one of them for Child
G > Sexual Abuse.

KRP > Greg you can't have THAT MANY
KRP > independent reports from different
KRP > people and there not be at least
KRP > SOMETHING to them.

Well, Dan claimed that some of them were
instigated by his BIPOLAR ex-wife.

But 20+ reports??

Even Dan acknowledged that not all
of them were people she put up to it.

And remember that Dan said it himself,
"Where there's smoke there's fire.".

Isn't it amazing that a guy with his history
would try that "jazz" on somebody else?

But what would you make of his attempts
to revise the number up and down so much?

Do you think Dan actually thought he could
get away with changing his claim up and
down so many times?

I wonder how Dan's SUPPORTERS rationalize
Dan's attempt to CHANGE his own claims!
( 15, 15+, 20+ then back down to 15+
CHILD ABUSE INVESTIGATIONS )

Let's watch Kent Wills ""rationalize"" it! LOL

Greegor

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Dan used a subject header that said:
grag scott hanson admits he is a twice convicted
abuser of a mentally ill woman and he also
admites he is listed on the Iowa State Child
Abuse Registry.

Dan, That is typical of your half truths.

Got a LINK to where I "admits" to EXACTLY what you said?

I know for a fact that you do not.

Got a LINK to a registry listing?

I know for a fact that you do not.

There are grains of truth in what you said,
but you've still concocted a HALF TRUTH.

What's the story about YOUR OWN changing
claims about the number of child abuse
investigations you've undergone, Dan?

( 15, 15+ 20+ and attempts to go back down to 15+ )

"The story doesn't change when you tell the truth." - Dan Sullivan

"Where there's smoke there's fire." - Dan Sullivan

Feb 2002


Dan Sullivan wrote "I was founded for SA of my daughter back in '93."

krp

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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> DJS3 > Dan Sullivan has not a single founded CPS
> DJS3 > reports in any State's Central Registry.
>
> G > Prove it!
>
> G> Dan himself has also claimed that he
> G > underwent 20+ investigations and had
> G > 5 FOUNDEDS, one of them for Child
> G > Sexual Abuse.
>
> KRP > Greg you can't have THAT MANY
> KRP > independent reports from different
> KRP > people and there not be at least
> KRP > SOMETHING to them.
>
> Well, Dan claimed that some of them were
> instigated by his BIPOLAR ex-wife.


Oh I see, it was all a "MASSIVE CONSPIRACY" orchestrated by his ex-wife
and she managed to recruit 20 other women and their children to join her. Oh
I can buy the off-the-rails ex wife, I might even buy her having a
co-conspirator. I've seen that plenty of times, but 20+? With that MUCH
smoke there has to be a fire somewhere.

krp

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>

>>> Dan put out a subject title that said:
>>> Dan Sullivan has not a single founded CPS reports in any State's
>>> Central Registry.
>>>
>>> Prove it!
>>>
>>> Dan himself has also claimed that he underwent 20+ investigations
>>> and had 5 FOUNDEDS, one of them for Child Sexual Abuse.
>>
>> Greg you can't have THAT MANY independent reports from different people
>> and there not be at least SOMETHING to them.

> The "something" was they all were unfounded.


As the people in the child protection racket say, Danny; "unfounded
doesn't necessarily mean untrue!" Your ACT here on Usenet is certainly
abusive and controlling.


Greegor

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G > Dan put out a subject title that said:
DJS3 > Dan Sullivan has not a single founded
DJS3 > CPS reports in any State's Central Registry.

G > Prove it!

G > Dan himself has also claimed that he underwent
G > 20+ investigations and had 5 FOUNDEDS, one
G > of them for Child Sexual Abuse.

KRP > Greg you can't have THAT MANY independent
KRP > reports from different people and there not be
KRP > at least SOMETHING to them.

DJS3 > The "something" was they all were unfounded.

KRP > As the people in the child protection racket say,
KRP > Danny; "unfounded doesn't necessarily mean untrue!"\
KRP > Your ACT here on Usenet is certainly abusive
KRP > and controlling.

How do you PROVE that you didn't FONDLE the kid, Dan?

I remember you said that in one of your cases
you didn't even have ACCESS to the child!

But what about the 19 other investigations?

How did you prove a negative, Dan?

Why are you so afraid to provide any proof?

Kent Wills

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On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:04:11 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
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[...]

>> >> Also, as I understand it, none of Greg's cases with regard to the child


>> >> have had a final determination yet.
>>
>> > LOL!!!
>>
>> > Who told you that?
>>
>> The Iowa courts show the main case as still "active" Danny.
>
>DJS#3> But, according to grag, the county already made their decision.
>
> The social worker did, but the COURT has NOT to what I can tell.

The SoL has long expired, Ken. You may recall when I cited
(with links) the SoL being two years from the time of the incident. It
has been over seven years.
The matter is closed. Greg waited too long and now he can do
nothing more than whine.
His claim that the SoL is tolled because no one has openly
confessed to committing perjury is bunk. As a trial consultant, you
should know this.


"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."

-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)

owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team claiming in misc.legal
that David Moore can
and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
Message-ID: <n9Sfm.1372$nh2...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>

Kent Wills

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[...]

>> >> Also, as I understand it, none of Greg's cases with regard to the child
>> >> have had a final determination yet.
>>
>> > LOL!!!
>>
>> > Who told you that?
>>
>> The Iowa courts show the main case as still "active" Danny.
>
>But, according to grag, the county already made their decision.

Actually, the state.
In Iowa, The Department of Human Services is a state agency. The
offices are often listed as X County of DHS, but it's still a state
agency.

>
>You claim to have won hundreds of cases in Iowa, pangborn, how is it
>you don't know that Iowa CPS only has a matter of a few months to make
>a final determination in a CPS case?

I doubt Pangborn has ever had a case in Iowa.
I know of no way for him to confirm he has without violating
confidentiality, so it will probably remain nothing more than a doubt.

>
>Are you claiming that the Iowa authorities have chosen to extend the
>Lisa Watkins determination to over eight years?

They didn't, according to Greg.
He has claimed that the determination was made three weeks later.
He may have been mistaken, or he may have lied, but that is the claim
Greg made.

--
Se toma vino por todo el mundo.

Well, that's what I've heard anyway :)

Kent Wills

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On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:07:27 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Dan put out a subject title that said:
>Dan Sullivan has not a single founded CPS reports in any State's
>Central Registry.
>
>Prove it!

He's clearly met the level of proof you require. You accept that
he was reported as fact. As such, you must accept that he has no
founded reports as fact.
Accept one claim from a source about a subject, you must accept
all the claims from the source about the same subject.

>
>Dan himself has also claimed that he underwent 20+ investigations
>and had 5 FOUNDEDS, one of them for Child Sexual Abuse.
>

He has no founded reports, Greg. Feel free to prove otherwise,
unless you're being far less than honest with your claim.

>I recently posted a news story of a child
>who was in Foster Care for 4 years with
>the sole basis being "suspicion of neglect".

Your excitement and joy over the child being away from her family
LEAPT from the screen, metaphorically speaking.

>
>Yet Dan pretends that his success is about
>ARGUING with caseworkers in a process
>that they basically own.

And he won. That's what really has you upset. Dan beat the CPS
agency you LOVE so much.
Why are you so pro-CPS? While I acknowledge there is a need for
such an agency (some people should NEVER be allowed to care for
children), you love CPS to a degree few can fathom.
What, exactly, is the reason you see CPS as ALWAYS right, no
matter what?
These are serious questions, Greg. I would appreciate serious
replies explaining how and why you LOVE CPS to the level you do.

A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson (either directly or through the same standards he
DEMANDS be held to others):

Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT

"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead

Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?

Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
"Of course."


"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
abuser

" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson

Path:
news.datemas.de!newsfeed.datemas.de!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!postnews.google.com!y21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: Greegor <gree...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
misc.kids,alt.support.foster-parents,uk.people.parents,alt.support.child-protective-services

With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."

"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.

--a true story


As of Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009:

Financials
Title: STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREG SCOTT
Case: 06571 AGCR015216 (LINN)
Citation Number:

Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 9200.00 850.00 8350.00
FINE 500.00 500.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 150.00 150.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 0.00 0.00 0.00


$9850.00 $1500.00 $8350.00

Yes, Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson still owes over
$8000.00 related to his convictions for BEATING his ex-wife.

Kent Wills

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[...]

>>> The social worker did, but the COURT has NOT to what I can tell.


>
>> pangborn, you posted "as I understand it, none of grag's cases with regard
>> to the child have had a final determination yet."
>
> Well Danny - it's time you NEED to start stalking Greg again.

Your comment implies he's done so in the past. Please present
any and all evidence you have that he's done so, unless you're being
deceptive.

>Use your
>CPS pull to get the goods on Greg.

Greg, not Dan, is the pro-CPS poster.

>After all - I **COULD** be wrong.

I estimate you are wrong 99% of the time. The other 1% occurs
when you don't make any claims.

>YOU
>will just have to sit and wonder how much of your BULLSHIT will eventually
>blow up in your face.

I've seen none from Dan, so I would have to state none.

>
> Say, Sullivan, AGAIN I remind you of the challenge to you to name just
>ONE THING you have done in your life (other than being a prick on Usenet)
>that has been a positive contribution. Just ONE THING you have done in your
>62 YEARS of life worthy of note? Some contribution to the world. Just ONE
>thing Danny.

He beat CPS. This pisses Greg off to no end, since Greg is
extremely PRO-CPS. It pisses you off because he's won where you have
lost.

Kent Wills

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On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:49:19 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Dan used a subject header that said:
>grag scott hanson admits he is a twice convicted
>abuser of a mentally ill woman and he also
>admites he is listed on the Iowa State Child
>Abuse Registry.
>
>Dan, That is typical of your half truths.

The court web site confirms your two convictions for BEATING your
ex.
You have claimed to be listed on Iowa's Child Abuse Registry.
I doubt the court site is offering a half truth. If your claim
was less than 100% accurate, the fault lies with you.

>
>Got a LINK to where I "admits" to EXACTLY what you said?
>
>I know for a fact that you do not.

Interesting. His paraphrasing isn't acceptable when the comments
are about you, but when you do it, well, that's perfectly acceptable.

>
>Got a LINK to a registry listing?

It's not public. Only certain people can access it.
However, people on it can state they are, as you have done.
Care to offer PROOF that you are on Iowa's Child Abuse Registry,
Greg?

>
>I know for a fact that you do not.

Are you telling the readers you LIED when you claimed to have
been placed on the registry?
I've asked you to prove your claim of being listed. You've RAN
from each request.
The reason has become very obvious. You aren't listed. You flat
out LIED about it.
You claimed you listed (you used the word marked) to con parents
dealing with CPS to trust you. This enabled you to sabotage their
cases with CPS.
You really do love CPS as much as you present on-line.

>
>There are grains of truth in what you said,
>but you've still concocted a HALF TRUTH.
>

Dan has cited the court records and your claims. Are the court
records listing your two convictions wrong? When you claimed to be on
Iowa's Child Abuse Registry, were you lying?

>What's the story about YOUR OWN changing
>claims about the number of child abuse
>investigations you've undergone, Dan?
>
>( 15, 15+ 20+ and attempts to go back down to 15+ )

Dan's never claimed 20+. He did state about 20.
Is there a specific reason you're LYING about this?

>
>"The story doesn't change when you tell the truth." - Dan Sullivan
>

Something you would do well to learn, Greg. Sadly, you are
stupid (unable to learn).

>"Where there's smoke there's fire." - Dan Sullivan
>

And your life is an inferno, Greg.

--a true story


>
>

Kent Wills

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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 02:49:31 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
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Technically, this is accurate. Just as founded doesn't
necessarily mean true.

>Your ACT here on Usenet is certainly
>abusive and controlling.
>

Only in your drunken delusions.
Maybe Dan's a member of the MASSIVE COALITION FORCE your intense
paranoia forces you to believe is out to get you (unless you lied
about the matter).

"I am insane!"
--Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-team,
posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated claiming that he was found
legally insane.

Kent Wills

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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:03:25 -0800 (PST), Greegor
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>KRP > As the people in the child protection racket say,
>KRP > Danny; "unfounded doesn't necessarily mean untrue!"\
>KRP > Your ACT here on Usenet is certainly abusive
>KRP > and controlling.
>
>How do you PROVE that you didn't FONDLE the kid, Dan?
>
>I remember you said that in one of your cases
>you didn't even have ACCESS to the child!

That would make abuse impossible.
It's sort of like how Lisa's little girl didn't suffer from your
abuse when she was removed from Lisa's home. Without access to the
little girl, you couldn't abuse her as you did before.

>
>But what about the 19 other investigations?

How do you get 19 investigations from 15 complaints? Be specific
since few will be able to follow your unique math.

>
>How did you prove a negative, Dan?

My guess would be with evidence. Dan would be in a far better
possition to know, of course.

>
>Why are you so afraid to provide any proof?

Your comment implies he hasn't. Please prove he's never done so,
unless, of course, he has and you're simply LYING about it.
I'm starting to enjoy using Gregborn Logic� standards in my
posts. I see why you and Ken use them exclusively.

Dan Sullivan

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I'm surprised that you claim to have won hundreds of cases in New York,
pangborn, yet you don't know that all CPS needs to found a report of
maltreatment is "some credible evidence."

And why am I NOT surprised that you quote a saying of CPS that they use when
they lose a case.


krp

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"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:04:11 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> >> Also, as I understand it, none of Greg's cases with regard to the
>>> >> child
>>> >> have had a final determination yet.
>>>
>>> > LOL!!!
>>>
>>> > Who told you that?
>>>
>>> The Iowa courts show the main case as still "active" Danny.
>>
>>DJS#3> But, according to grag, the county already made their decision.
>>
>> The social worker did, but the COURT has NOT to what I can tell.
>
> The SoL has long expired, Ken. You may recall when I cited
> (with links) the SoL being two years from the time of the incident. It
> has been over seven years.
> The matter is closed.


Thank you JUDGE WILLS for your RULING in this matter!

krp

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
>>>>> Dan put out a subject title that said:
>>>>> Dan Sullivan has not a single founded CPS reports in any State's
>>>>> Central Registry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prove it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan himself has also claimed that he underwent 20+ investigations
>>>>> and had 5 FOUNDEDS, one of them for Child Sexual Abuse.
>>>>
>>>> Greg you can't have THAT MANY independent reports from different people
>>>> and there not be at least SOMETHING to them.
>>
>>> The "something" was they all were unfounded.
>>
>>
>> As the people in the child protection racket say, Danny; "unfounded
>> doesn't necessarily mean untrue!" Your ACT here on Usenet is certainly
>> abusive and controlling.
>
> I'm surprised that you claim to have won hundreds of cases in New York,
> pangborn, yet you don't know that all CPS needs to found a report of
> maltreatment is "some credible evidence."

I never said "hundreds in New York." Hundreds all over the country,
yes.

Dan Sullivan

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On Dec 20, 11:47 am, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message

"Hundreds all over the country???"

On March 5th of this year you claimed "Best guess at that time, more
likely 2 to 3 thousand."

"At that time" was after 26 years "in the business."

Now, after 33 years the number of cases ken pangborn of the a-team has
won has SHRUNK to mere hundreds!!

I wonder where the other "2 to 3 thousand" cases went.

Greegor

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KBW > The SoL has long expired, Ken.  You may
KBW > recall when I cited (with links) the SoL
KBW > being two years from the time of the
KBW > incident. It has been over seven years.
KBW > The matter is closed.

KRP > Thank you JUDGE WILLS for your RULING in this matter!

LOL

And WHAT is Kent yapping about SoL for?

Dan Sullivan

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Dan Sullivan

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Kent Wills

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[...]

>>>DJS#3> But, according to grag, the county already made their decision.


>>>
>>> The social worker did, but the COURT has NOT to what I can tell.
>>
>> The SoL has long expired, Ken. You may recall when I cited
>> (with links) the SoL being two years from the time of the incident. It
>> has been over seven years.
>> The matter is closed.
>
>
> Thank you JUDGE WILLS for your RULING in this matter!

Outside of your alcohol induced insanity (unless you lied about
either or both) I'm not a judge. Really.
Anyone can cite applicable law regarding any situation. Those
who don't share your insanity (unless you LIED in ADRU when you
claimed you were found legally insane) will understand this.

"CPS cases are legal matters. Offering advice IS practicing law
without a license."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn admitting he practices law without a
license in misc.legal

Kent Wills

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Pangborn's alcoholism (unless he lied) has forced him to believe
your claim that the SoL has been tolled because the parties involved
have never openly admitted they committed perjury.
Since all available evidence shows they did not, the claim you've
presented in the past fails. Sadly, Pangborn is too drunk (unless he
lied) that he can't see this simple truth.

Dan Sullivan

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Provo, Utah.

HTH!

krp

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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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KBW > The SoL has long expired, Ken. You may
KBW > recall when I cited (with links) the SoL
KBW > being two years from the time of the
KBW > incident. It has been over seven years.
KBW > The matter is closed.

KRP > Thank you JUDGE WILLS for your RULING in this matter!

GH> LOL And WHAT is Kent yapping about SoL for?

JUDGE Wills made his ruling, Greg. That's the end of it. HE HAS SPOKEN!

krp

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Oh you want an EXACT count. I'm sorry.


krp

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> On Dec 20, 11:47 am, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:4b2e1cc7$0$4993$607e...@cv.net...
>> >>>>> Dan put out a subject title that said:
>> >>>>> Dan Sullivan has not a single founded CPS reports in any State's
>> >>>>> Central Registry.
>> >>>>> Prove it!
>> >>>>> Dan himself has also claimed that he underwent 20+ investigations
>> >>>>> and had 5 FOUNDEDS, one of them for Child Sexual Abuse.
>> >>>> Greg you can't have THAT MANY independent reports from different
>> >>>> people
>> >>>> and there not be at least SOMETHING to them.
>> >>> The "something" was they all were unfounded.
>> >> As the people in the child protection racket say, Danny; "unfounded
>> >> doesn't necessarily mean untrue!" Your ACT here on Usenet is certainly
>> >> abusive and controlling.
>> > I'm surprised that you claim to have won hundreds of cases in New York,
>> > pangborn, yet you don't know that all CPS needs to found a report of
>> > maltreatment is "some credible evidence."
>> I never said "hundreds in New York." Hundreds all over the country,
>> yes.
>
> "Hundreds all over the country???"
>
> On March 5th of this year you claimed "Best guess at that time, more
> likely 2 to 3 thousand."

What part of the word "GUESS" can't you understand, PROFESSOR Sullivan?


Dan Sullivan

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On Dec 20, 6:32 pm, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message

Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed" "2 to 3 thousand," and now
in 2009, seven years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?

In 2002 you guessed 96 cases a year.

In 2009 you said hundreds... 300? meaning 9 cases a year.

600? meaning 18 cases a year.

900? that's 27 cases a year.

Still a FAR CRY from 96 cases a year.

Dan Sullivan

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Dan Sullivan

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freedom

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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009, krp <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message=20

>news:4b2e1cc7$0$4993$607e...@cv.net...
>>
>>>>>> Dan put out a subject title that said:
>>>>>> Dan Sullivan has not a single founded CPS reports in any State's
>>>>>> Central Registry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prove it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan himself has also claimed that he underwent 20+ investigations
>>>>>> and had 5 FOUNDEDS, one of them for Child Sexual Abuse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg you can't have THAT MANY independent reports from different peop=
le=20

>>>>> and there not be at least SOMETHING to them.
>>>
>>>> The "something" was they all were unfounded.
>>>
>>>
>>> As the people in the child protection racket say, Danny; "unfounded=20
>>> doesn't necessarily mean untrue!" Your ACT here on Usenet is certainly=20
>>> abusive and controlling.
>>
>> I'm surprised that you claim to have won hundreds of cases in New York,=20
>> pangborn, yet you don't know that all CPS needs to found a report of=20

>> maltreatment is "some credible evidence."
>
> I never said "hundreds in New York." Hundreds all over the country,=20
>yes.

And yet, you can't name a single case.

And yet, despite the way I, Kent, Dan and everyone else have kicked your
fat ass all over the net, not a single former client will come forward and
say "no, you're wrong about Ken, he's a very good consultant."

http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
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one DESPICABLE CUNT!!!! ....Bitch you are GUTTER SLIME!"
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highlighting his typical views on women

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I ran out of there as fast as we could back in the late summer of 2002. He
ruined my life and my moms life....His business is a scam, as he is in the
rest of his life. He enjoys child pornography and was investigated for that=

as well....he'll call my mom 20 times a day until she answers...[Ken's
sister-in-law Rebecca Reilly] wouldnt come over to our house anymore
because of how he would talk to her and come on to her....and he had over
180 pictures of her on his computer"
--Ken Pangborn's daughter Megan

"Blood, breath or urine?"
--question to Ken Pangborn from a Florida police officer in November 2008,
during a traffic stop from which Pangborn was subsequently charged with
DUI**

"...beating [some kids] into a bloody pulp is the ONLY thing=20
that would get through to them."=20
--Ken Pangborn on child rearing

"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend

** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic

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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:21:21 -0800 (PST), Dan Sullivan
<dsul...@optonline.net> wrote:

[...]

>> I never said "hundreds in New York." Hundreds all over the country,


>> yes.
>
>"Hundreds all over the country???"
>
>On March 5th of this year you claimed "Best guess at that time, more
>likely 2 to 3 thousand."
>
>"At that time" was after 26 years "in the business."
>
>Now, after 33 years the number of cases ken pangborn of the a-team has
>won has SHRUNK to mere hundreds!!
>
>I wonder where the other "2 to 3 thousand" cases went.

Not so long ago he was bragging about the one client he had that
actually won.

"(CONTEXT REMOVED AS TO THE BELOW CLAIM)"


-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)

owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team accidentally admitting
he alters the context of posts when he replies.
MID FyUom.1363$Jd7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net

Kent Wills

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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:33:03 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
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[...]

>>> I never said "hundreds in New York." Hundreds all over the country,


>>> yes.
>>
>> "Hundreds all over the country???"
>>
>> On March 5th of this year you claimed "Best guess at that time, more
>> likely 2 to 3 thousand."
>
>What part of the word "GUESS" can't you understand, PROFESSOR Sullivan?

At one time you guessed two to three thousand. Now you guess
hundreds?
Either is a possible guess, but given the extreme difference in
numbers, the guesses offered would need to have come from the mind of
a complete moron.
Oh yeah, they did.

"Sometimes Greg is sloppy with things like that. I would agree the
significance of the difference may be just a wee bit over his head"


-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)

owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team commenting on his ONLY
on-line friend, Gregory Scott Hanson.

Kent Wills

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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:31:04 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
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Outside of your drunken insanity (unless you lied about either or
both) I'm not a judge. You can DEMAND that I am as often as your
alcoholic induced insanity (unless you lied about either or both)
demand, but the truth will remain that I am not.

krp

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ONE OF 50 LUNATIC POSTS in the past 24 hours

"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>KBW > The SoL has long expired, Ken. You may
>>KBW > recall when I cited (with links) the SoL
>>KBW > being two years from the time of the
>>KBW > incident. It has been over seven years.
>>KBW > The matter is closed.
>>
>>KRP > Thank you JUDGE WILLS for your RULING in this matter!
>>
>>GH> LOL And WHAT is Kent yapping about SoL for?
>>
>> JUDGE Wills made his ruling, Greg. That's the end of it. HE HAS
>> SPOKEN!

> Outside of your drunken insanity (unless you lied about either or
> both) I'm not a judge. You can DEMAND that I am as often as your
> alcoholic induced insanity (unless you lied about either or both)
> demand, but the truth will remain that I am not.

I don't "DEMAND" anything Kunt. You swagger around Usenet making legal
pronouncements AS IF you were the final legal authority. VERY often you are
as wrong as you could get with your legal pronouncements. You yap about
FACTS that in point of FACT are NOT facts just your yapping.


Dan Sullivan

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krp

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed" "2 to 3 thousand," and now
> in 2009, seven years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?


Is it possible you can STOP boring me to death with dozens of posts all
saying the same idiotic thing? Hey PROFESSOR look up the definition of the
word "GUESS" and maybe the answer to your BULLSHIT will appear to you. BUT -
I DOUBT IT!

Dan Sullivan

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"krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:f8a4c383-9ac9-47eb...@f6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed" "2 to 3 thousand," and now
>> in 2009, seven years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
>
>
> Is it possible you can STOP boring me to death with dozens of posts all
> saying the same idiotic thing?

The "same idiotic thing" is you getting caught lying, pangborn.

Want it to stop?

Stop posting!!!

LOL!!!

krp

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>>> Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed" "2 to 3 thousand," and now
>>> in 2009, seven years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
>>
>>
>> Is it possible you can STOP boring me to death with dozens of posts
>> all saying the same idiotic thing?

> The "same idiotic thing" is you getting caught lying, pangborn.

Your declaration of victory and REALITY are too different things,
Sullivan.

> Want it to stop? Stop posting!!!

OR ELSE? Or else you'll drone on with the same bullshit over and over
and over again? Just because you RANT AND RAVE, Sullivan, doesn't mean you
have actually "PROVED" anything other than in your little kook mind and to
your little KOOK pals. You STILL think you are the monarch of ASCPS and OUR
decrees are LAW, don't ya , Danny boy?


Dan Sullivan

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"krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4b2f925f$0$4985$607e...@cv.net...
>
>>>> Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed" "2 to 3 thousand," and now
>>>> in 2009, seven years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible you can STOP boring me to death with dozens of posts
>>> all saying the same idiotic thing?
>
>> The "same idiotic thing" is you getting caught lying, pangborn.
>
> Your declaration of victory and REALITY are too different things,
> Sullivan.
>
>> Want it to stop? Stop posting!!!
>
> OR ELSE? Or else you'll drone on with the same bullshit over and over
> and over again?

It's YOUR bullshit, pangborn, I merely point it out to demonstrate to your
prospective clients that you're simply a liar and a third rate hack.

LOL!!!


Greegor

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KBW > The SoL has long expired, Ken. You may
KBW > recall when I cited (with links) the SoL
KBW > being two years from the time of the
KBW > incident. It has been over seven years.
KBW > The matter is closed.

KRP > Thank you JUDGE WILLS for your RULING in this matter!

G >  LOL And WHAT is Kent yapping about SoL for?

KRP > JUDGE Wills made his ruling, Greg.
KRP > That's the end of it. HE HAS SPOKEN!

KBW > Outside of your drunken insanity (unless you
KBW > lied about either or both) I'm not a judge.
KBW > You can DEMAND that I am as often as
KBW > your alcoholic induced insanity (unless
KBW > you lied about either or both) demand,
KBW > but the truth will remain that I am not.

KRP > I don't "DEMAND" anything Kunt. You
KRP > swagger around Usenet making legal
KRP > pronouncements AS IF you were the final
KRP > legal authority. VERY often you are as
KRP > wrong as you could get with your legal
KRP > pronouncements. You yap about FACTS
KRP > that in point of FACT are NOT facts just
KRP > your yapping.

He is Kent Bradley Wills.

Dan Sullivan

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> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message

Greegor

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ken pangborn of the a-team gets caught lying AGAIN!!! And chokes on
his excuse!
93 Dan Sullivan Dec 20
94 Dan Sullivan Dec 20
95 Dan Sullivan Dec 20
96 Dan Sullivan Dec 21

Obsess much?

Golly, Dan, When you don't believe your
own BS, you kinda make that obvious!

On Dec 21, 8:10 am, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
DJS3 > Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed"
DJS3 > "2 to 3 thousand," and now in 2009, seven
DJS3 > years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
DJS3 > In 2002 you guessed 96 cases a year.
DJS3 > In 2009 you said hundreds... 300? meaning 9 cases a year.
DJS3 > 600? meaning 18 cases a year.
DJS3 > 900?  that's 27 cases a year.
DJS3 > Still a FAR CRY from 96 cases a year.

Dan, You're complaining about somebody's
number where their business goes up and down.

Their averages do change.

But the NUMBER of Child Abuse investigations
you have undergone took place over a finite
time span and you can't even keep straight
whether it was 15+ or 20+ investigations!

By sheer SCALE alone, Dan, it's NOT CREDIBLE
that you would have such trouble knowing
the exact number, Dan.

There are no averages involved, just
a fixed number, yet you have tried to
revise the number up and down on a whim!

15, 15+, 20+ and back down to 15+

It's not like you'd FORGET the exact number, Dan!

But Ken has an organic, changing average
for a yearly business, and you want exact numbers?

Don't you think a trial consultant could
have 5 really GOOD cases and do better
than having HUNDREDS of really lousy ones?

Certainly, for the caseworkers, the one case
where they FOUNDED you for Child Sexual Abuse
would score differently than the ones where
they got you for mere neglect for clutter
based on rules that do not exist.

You haven't got diddly, just BIG TALK.

Gonna declare victorious retreat again, Dan?\

Dan Sullivan

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On Dec 21, 11:46 am, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ken pangborn of the a-team gets caught lying AGAIN!!! And chokes on
> his excuse!
>               93 Dan Sullivan  Dec 20
>                94 Dan Sullivan  Dec 20
>                 95 Dan Sullivan  Dec 20
>                  96 Dan Sullivan  Dec 21
>
> Obsess much?
>
> Golly, Dan, When you don't believe your
> own BS, you kinda make that obvious!
>
> On Dec 21, 8:10 am, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
> DJS3 > Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed"
> DJS3 > "2 to 3 thousand," and now in 2009, seven
> DJS3 > years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
> DJS3 > In 2002 you guessed 96 cases a year.
> DJS3 > In 2009 you said hundreds... 300? meaning 9 cases a year.
> DJS3 > 600? meaning 18 cases a year.
> DJS3 > 900?  that's 27 cases a year.
> DJS3 > Still a FAR CRY from 96 cases a year.
>
> Dan, You're complaining about somebody's
> number where their business goes up and down.
>
> Their averages do change.

In 2002 pangborn claimed his total cases was "2 to 3 thousand."

In 2009 pangborn claimed "hundreds."

That's not averages, grag, that's pangborn's claims of TOTAL cases!

Dan Sullivan

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Greegor

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DJS3 > ken pangborn of the a-team gets caught lying
DJS3 > AGAIN!!! And chokes on his excuse!
DJS3 >               93 Dan Sullivan  Dec 20
DJS3 >                94 Dan Sullivan  Dec 20
DJS3 >                 95 Dan Sullivan  Dec 20
DJS3 >                  96 Dan Sullivan  Dec 21

G > Obsess much?

G > Golly, Dan, When you don't believe your
G > own BS, you kinda make that obvious!

On Dec 21, 8:10 am, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
DJS3 > Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed"
DJS3 > "2 to 3 thousand," and now in 2009, seven
DJS3 > years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
DJS3 > In 2002 you guessed 96 cases a year.
DJS3 > In 2009 you said hundreds... 300? meaning 9 cases a year.
DJS3 > 600? meaning 18 cases a year.
DJS3 > 900?  that's 27 cases a year.
DJS3 > Still a FAR CRY from 96 cases a year.

G > Dan, You're complaining about somebody's
G > number where their business goes up and down.
G >
G > Their averages do change.

DJS3 > In 2002 pangborn claimed his total cases was "2 to 3 thousand."
DJS3 > In 2009 pangborn claimed "hundreds."
DJS3 > That's not averages, grag, that's pangborn's claims of TOTAL
cases!

You can't even keep straight your 20+ Child Protection investigations!
The number revises down on your whim??

And WHAT exactly is your line of work or business, Dan?
I want to see your stats, Dan!

So far I have this:

Daniel J. Sullivan III had 20+ investigations for child abuse
and was FOUNDED at least 5 times, one FOUNDED was
for CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE

Dan Sullivan

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"15+" or "about 20."

Are you claiming those figures confuse you, grag?

> And WHAT exactly is your line of work or business, Dan?
> I want to see your stats, Dan!
>
> So far I have this:
>
> Daniel J. Sullivan III had 20+ investigations for child abuse
> and was FOUNDED at least 5 times, one FOUNDED was
> for CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE

All reports were unfounded, grag.

krp

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SELF PROCLAIMED ENGLISH PROFESSOR another MANYFOLD MOMENT

"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> 93 Dan Sullivan Dec 20
> 94 Dan Sullivan Dec 20
> 95 Dan Sullivan Dec 20
> 96 Dan Sullivan Dec 21
>
> Obsess much?
>
> Golly, Dan, When you don't believe your
> own BS, you kinda make that obvious!
>
> On Dec 21, 8:10 am, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
> DJS3 > Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed"
> DJS3 > "2 to 3 thousand," and now in 2009, seven
> DJS3 > years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
> DJS3 > In 2002 you guessed 96 cases a year.
> DJS3 > In 2009 you said hundreds... 300? meaning 9 cases a year.
> DJS3 > 600? meaning 18 cases a year.
> DJS3 > 900? that's 27 cases a year.
> DJS3 > Still a FAR CRY from 96 cases a year.
>
> Dan, You're complaining about somebody's
> number where their business goes up and down.
>
> Their averages do change.

DJS#3> In 2002 pangborn claimed his total cases was "2 to 3 thousand."

I said that it was a "GUESS," Sullivan, do you know what a "GUESS" is?
It ain't MANYFOLD. You know, I have not kept accurate count we've had so
many cases, but it is likely more than a couple thousand cases of all types.
Now of one specific type, probably hundreds. No matter what I answered
without a totally accurate count you are going to jump on it. Since I work
with many law firms all over the country, I don't keep a log of every case.
All you are gonna get are "guesstimates." Remember, not ALL my cases are CPS
cases, numbnuts!


Now keep on obsessing with 20 or 30 posts a day AS IF you make your
claims true by sheer volume of your BULLSHIT!

krp

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MISTER MANYFOLD HIMSELF

"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed" "2 to 3 thousand," and now
>>>>> in 2009, seven years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible you can STOP boring me to death with dozens of posts
>>>> all saying the same idiotic thing?
>>
>>> The "same idiotic thing" is you getting caught lying, pangborn.
>>
>> Your declaration of victory and REALITY are too different things,
>> Sullivan.
>>
>>> Want it to stop? Stop posting!!!
>>
>> OR ELSE? Or else you'll drone on with the same bullshit over and over
>> and over again?

> It's YOUR bullshit, pangborn, I merely point it out to demonstrate to your
> prospective clients that you're simply a liar and a third rate hack.


` 20 to 30 posts each day for the past several days, ALL saying the same
bullshit. Do you know, PROFESSOR, what the word "GUESS" means? Do you have
a fukkking clue? I know you think you have hit the motherload of a GOTCHYA
moments. You ALWAYS DO. You are truly a legend in your own mind. Does this
kind of kooky shit make you feel potent and POWERFUL, Danny? Is this your
ONLY manner of showing your MANHOOD? Do you feel REAL butch right now? Do
you feel like a real CHOLO? Want to go down to Jenny's HOOD and act all
macho and shit? I bet the Latin kinds would shit their pants being
confronted by a REAL badass like you! <snicker> Now toddle along LITTLE
BOY and look for your next gotchya...... They may be MANYFOLD!!!

womanGoddess

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On Dec 21, 9:05 am, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message

>
> news:f8a4c383-9ac9-47eb...@f6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed" "2 to 3 thousand," and now
> > in 2009, seven years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
>
>     Is it possible you can STOP boring me to death with dozens of posts all
> saying the same idiotic thing?

Projection noted.
Irony noted.
Hypocrisy from Kennie noted.

SSDD-- same shit, different day.

Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm

Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com

womanGoddess

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:18:53 PM12/21/09
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On Dec 21, 9:20 am, "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4b2f8ed2$0$5094$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
>
>
> > "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message

> >news:f8a4c383-9ac9-47eb...@f6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed" "2 to 3 thousand," and now
> >> in 2009, seven years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
>
> >    Is it possible you can STOP boring me to death with dozens of posts all
> > saying the same idiotic thing?
>
> The "same idiotic thing" is you getting caught lying, pangborn.

Agreed.


>
> Want it to stop?
>
> Stop posting!!!
>
> LOL!!!

(( Derisive snort)) Good luck with that one. Kennie is too addicted
to stop posting.
Look at the thread about his DD-412. You'd think by now he'd figure
out his act isn't selling, but he still is making excuses and bullshit
claims anyway.

womanGoddess

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:21:22 PM12/21/09
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On Dec 21, 9:36 am, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message

>
> news:4b2f925f$0$4985$607e...@cv.net...
>
> >>> Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed" "2 to 3 thousand," and now
> >>> in 2009, seven years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
>
> >>    Is it possible you can STOP boring me to death with dozens of posts
> >> all saying the same idiotic thing?
> > The "same idiotic thing" is you getting caught lying, pangborn.
>
>     Your declaration of victory and REALITY are too different things,
> Sullivan.
>
> > Want it to stop?  Stop posting!!!
>
>     OR ELSE? Or else you'll drone on with the same bullshit over and over
> and over again? Just because you RANT AND RAVE, Sullivan, doesn't mean you
> have actually "PROVED" anything

Irony noted.
Projection noted.

Seriously, does Kennie realize when he posts this stuff how it
applies to him as well?

SHEEESHH!!

Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm

> other than in your little kook mind and to

womanGoddess

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:24:29 PM12/21/09
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On Dec 21, 4:29 pm, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> SELF PROCLAIMED ENGLISH PROFESSOR another MANYFOLD MOMENT"Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message

Oh PULEEASE!! You are supposed to be running a PROFESSIONAL
BUSINESS. That means good accounting. To sell your " services" you
have to have some statistical backing behind your claims and not just
" guesses".

" Course in your case you're all about the money, not the integrity.

womanGoddess

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:26:41 PM12/21/09
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On Dec 21, 4:35 pm, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> MISTER MANYFOLD HIMSELF"Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message

>
> news:4b2f97c7$0$22509$607e...@cv.net...
>
>
>
> >>>>> Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed" "2 to 3 thousand," and now
> >>>>> in 2009, seven years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
>
> >>>>    Is it possible you can STOP boring me to death with dozens of posts
> >>>> all saying the same idiotic thing?
>
> >>> The "same idiotic thing" is you getting caught lying, pangborn.
>
> >>    Your declaration of victory and REALITY are too different things,
> >> Sullivan.
>
> >>> Want it to stop?  Stop posting!!!
>
> >>    OR ELSE? Or else you'll drone on with the same bullshit over and over
> >> and over again?
> > It's YOUR bullshit, pangborn, I merely point it out to demonstrate to your
> > prospective clients that you're simply a liar and a third rate hack.
>
> `    20 to 30 posts each day for the past several days, ALL saying the same
> bullshit.

Oh like you and Greg do Kennie?

You hypocrite!!

Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm

>  Do you know, PROFESSOR, what the word "GUESS" means? Do you have

M

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:31:44 PM12/21/09
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On Dec 21, 6:26 pm, womanGoddess <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 21, 4:35 pm, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > MISTER MANYFOLD HIMSELF"Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:4b2f97c7$0$22509$607e...@cv.net...
> >> Your declaration of victory and REALITY are too different things,
>> Sullivan.


>>> Want it to stop? Stop posting!!!

jhjuyyuyknjkj


>> OR ELSE? Or else you'll drone on with the same bullshit over and over
>> and over again?
> It's YOUR bullshit, pangborn, I merely point it out to demonstrate to your
> prospective clients that you're simply a liar and a third rate hack.

` 20 to 30 posts each day for the past several days, ALL saying the
same

bullshit. Do you know, PROFESSOR, what the word


> > >>>>> Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed" "2 to 3 thousand," and now
> > >>>>> in 2009, seven years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
>
> > >>>>    Is it possible you can STOP boring me to death with dozens of posts
> > >>>> all saying the same idiotic thing?
>
> > >>> The "same idiotic thing" is you getting caught lying, pangborn.
>
> > >>    Your declaration of victory and REALITY are too different things,
> > >> Sullivan.
>
> > >>> Want it to stop?  Stop posting!!!
>
> > >>    OR ELSE? Or else you'll drone on with the same bullshit over and over
> > >> and over again?


> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


> > > It's YOUR bullshit, pangborn, I merely point it out to demonstrate to your
> > > prospective clients that you're simply a liar and a third rate hack.
>
> > `    20 to 30 posts each day for the past several days, ALL saying the same
> > bullshit.
>
>  Oh like you and Greg do Kennie?
>
>  You hypocrite!!
>
> Moe
>  Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
> " A vampire cop? REALLY?"
> "http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
>

> Know your scum---http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com


>
>
>
> >  Do you know, PROFESSOR, what the word "GUESS" means? Do you have
> > a fukkking clue? I know you think you have hit the motherload of a GOTCHYA
> > moments. You ALWAYS DO. You are truly a legend in your own mind. Does this
> > kind of kooky shit make you feel potent and POWERFUL, Danny? Is this your
> > ONLY manner of showing your MANHOOD? Do you feel REAL butch right now? Do
> > you feel like a real CHOLO? Want to go down to Jenny's HOOD and act all
> > macho and shit?  I bet the Latin kinds would shit their pants being
> > confronted by a REAL badass like you! <snicker>   Now toddle along LITTLE

> > BOY and look for your next gotchya...... They may be MANYFOLD!!!- Hide quoted text -
>

Dan Sullivan

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:53:33 PM12/21/09
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On Dec 21, 5:35 pm, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> MISTER MANYFOLD HIMSELF"Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message

>
> news:4b2f97c7$0$22509$607e...@cv.net...
>
>
>
> >>>>> Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed" "2 to 3 thousand," and now
> >>>>> in 2009, seven years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
>
> >>>>    Is it possible you can STOP boring me to death with dozens of posts
> >>>> all saying the same idiotic thing?
>
> >>> The "same idiotic thing" is you getting caught lying, pangborn.
>
> >>    Your declaration of victory and REALITY are too different things,
> >> Sullivan.
>
> >>> Want it to stop?  Stop posting!!!
>
> >>    OR ELSE? Or else you'll drone on with the same bullshit over and over
> >> and over again?
> > It's YOUR bullshit, pangborn, I merely point it out to demonstrate to your
> > prospective clients that you're simply a liar and a third rate hack.
>
> `    20 to 30 posts each day for the past several days, ALL saying the same
> bullshit.

The accurate figure is 12 posts over two days, pangborn.

>  Do you know, PROFESSOR, what the word "GUESS" means?

A "guess," is any number a bankrupt fraud of a "trial consultant"
named ken pangborn makes between a few hundred and 3,000.

RRR RRR RRRRR....

> Do you have a fukkking clue?

You don't, pangborn.

You just claimed I made 20-30 posts each day over the past several
days on the same subject when the accurate number is 12 posts over two
days.


Greegor

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Dec 21, 2009, 10:49:58 PM12/21/09
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KRP > Your declaration of victory and
KRP > REALITY are too different things, Sullivan.

DJS3 > Want it to stop?  Stop posting!!!

Is that your GOAL, Dan?

[...]

KRP > OR ELSE? Or else you'll drone on with the same
KRP > bullshit over and over and over again?
KRP > 20 to 30 posts each day for the past several
KRP > days, ALL saying the same bullshit.

DJS3 > The accurate figure is 12 posts over two days, pangborn.

KRP >   Do you know, PROFESSOR, what the word "GUESS" means?

DJS3 > A "guess," is any number a bankrupt fraud
DJS3 > of a "trial consultant" named ken pangborn
DJS3 > makes between a few hundred and 3,000.


DJS3 >
DJS3 > RRR RRR RRRRR....

Turning pirate, Dan?
[...]

womanGoddess

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:50:10 AM12/22/09
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On Dec 21, 9:49 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> KRP > Your declaration of victory and
> KRP > REALITY are too different things, Sullivan.
>
> DJS3 > Want it to stop?  Stop posting!!!
>
> Is that your GOAL, Dan?

Its our hope for a Christmas miracle that both you and Kennie get a
life outside of the internet.

Personally I'd send both of you for Christmas working Cenobite puzzle
boxes for you to open.

>
> [...]
>
> KRP > OR ELSE? Or else you'll drone on with the same
> KRP > bullshit over and over and over again?
> KRP > 20 to 30 posts each day for the past several
> KRP > days, ALL saying the same bullshit.
>
> DJS3 > The accurate figure is 12 posts over two days, pangborn.
>
> KRP >   Do you know, PROFESSOR, what the word "GUESS" means?
>
> DJS3 > A "guess," is any number a bankrupt fraud
> DJS3 > of a "trial consultant" named ken pangborn
> DJS3 > makes between a few hundred and 3,000.
>
> DJS3 >
> DJS3 > RRR RRR RRRRR....
>
> Turning pirate, Dan?
> [...]

Its another way to show laughter Grag.

Kent Wills

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:34:49 AM12/22/09
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:50:55 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
wrote:

>>> JUDGE Wills made his ruling, Greg. That's the end of it. HE HAS
>>> SPOKEN!
>
>> Outside of your drunken insanity (unless you lied about either or
>> both) I'm not a judge. You can DEMAND that I am as often as your
>> alcoholic induced insanity (unless you lied about either or both)
>> demand, but the truth will remain that I am not.
>
> I don't "DEMAND" anything Kunt.

You frequently DEMAND that I am a legal expert. When compared to
you, I am, but when compared to anyone who has been to law school, I
am not.
You need to accept the truth and move on with your life.

>You swagger around Usenet making legal
>pronouncements AS IF you were the final legal authority.

I'm sure your drunken hallucinations seem very real, but they are
not.

>VERY often you are
>as wrong as you could get with your legal pronouncements. You yap about
>FACTS that in point of FACT are NOT facts just your yapping.

Cite one time, just one, with MID and/or Google link. Unless, of
course, I've caught you in another of your MANY drunken pathological
lies.
Cite one time, a win for you, or admit you've expressed another
drunken lie, another in a LONG list of failures for you. The choice
is yours.

"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team claiming in misc.legal
that David Moore can and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
Message-ID: <n9Sfm.1372$nh2...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>

Kent Wills

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:09:18 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

>KBW > Outside of your drunken insanity (unless you
>KBW > lied about either or both) I'm not a judge.
>KBW >You can DEMAND that I am as often as
>KBW > your alcoholic induced insanity (unless
>KBW > you lied about either or both) demand,
>KBW > but the truth will remain that I am not.
>
>KRP > I don't "DEMAND" anything Kunt. You
>KRP > swagger around Usenet making legal
>KRP > pronouncements AS IF you were the final
>KRP > legal authority. VERY often you are as
>KRP > wrong as you could get with your legal
>KRP > pronouncements. You yap about FACTS
>KRP > that in point of FACT are NOT facts just
>KRP > your yapping.
>
>He is Kent Bradley Wills.

If I am, why did you claim I am not?
Where you lying then, or now? Both claims can't be true, so
which one was the lie?
I've asked this of you many times, yet you've NEVER answered.
Please do so now, unless an honest answer is too difficult for you.

A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson (either directly or through the same standards he
DEMANDS be held to others):

Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT

"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead

Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?

Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
"Of course."


"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
abuser

" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson

Path:
news.datemas.de!newsfeed.datemas.de!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!postnews.google.com!y21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: Greegor <gree...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
misc.kids,alt.support.foster-parents,uk.people.parents,alt.support.child-protective-services

With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."

"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.

--a true story


As of Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009:

Financials
Title: STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREG SCOTT
Case: 06571 AGCR015216 (LINN)
Citation Number:

Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 9200.00 850.00 8350.00
FINE 500.00 500.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 150.00 150.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 0.00 0.00 0.00


$9850.00 $1500.00 $8350.00

Yes, Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson still owes over
$8000.00 related to his convictions for BEATING his ex-wife.

"I am now a "founded" child abuser for making a
7 year old take a fast cold shower."
-- Gregory Scot "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson bragging in MID
<cu6H6.14493$3c6.3...@news1.elmhst1.il.home.com>

Kent Wills

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:05:53 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
wrote:

>
>"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:f8a4c383-9ac9-47eb...@f6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Can you explain how in 2002 you "guessed" "2 to 3 thousand," and now
>> in 2009, seven years later the number has "shrunk" to mere hundreds?
>
>
> Is it possible you can STOP boring me to death with dozens of posts all
>saying the same idiotic thing?

So you are seeing them.
Why then are you RUNNING from them?

>Hey PROFESSOR look up the definition of the
>word "GUESS" and maybe the answer to your BULLSHIT will appear to you. BUT -
>I DOUBT IT!

A guess is a guess, but given the MASSIVE difference between two
to three thousand and a few hundred, only a total moron could try to
claim both as reasonable guesses about the exact same thing.
And one has. Kenneth Robert Pangborn.

"Maybe he's like me to attach some kiddie porn to aid his fantasies"

-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)

owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team, expressing his
fondness for child porn in Message-ID:
<RECUi.494$Q%3.238@trnddc04>

Kent Wills

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:36:43 AM12/22/09
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He could try being honest when he posts. I realize the chances
of his doing so are, at best, slim. Still, that would be another
option for him.

>
>LOL!!!
>
>


"And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
fan and GAY lover."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team, LYING
and claiming David Moore is his gay lover. Message-ID:
<_MlOj.598$pH4.7@trnddc06>

Kent Wills

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:37:21 AM12/22/09
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:24:29 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[...]

>> I said that it was a "GUESS," Sullivan, do you know what a "GUESS" is?
>> It ain't MANYFOLD. You know, I have not kept accurate count we've had so
>> many cases, but it is likely more than a couple thousand cases of all types.
>> Now of one specific type, probably hundreds. No matter what I answered
>> without a totally accurate count you are going to jump on it. Since I work
>> with many law firms all over the country, I don't keep a log of every case.
>> All you are gonna get are "guesstimates." Remember, not ALL my cases are CPS
>> cases, numbnuts!
>>
>> Now keep on obsessing with 20 or 30 posts a day AS IF you make your
>> claims true by sheer volume of your BULLSHIT!
>
> Oh PULEEASE!! You are supposed to be running a PROFESSIONAL
>BUSINESS. That means good accounting. To sell your " services" you
>have to have some statistical backing behind your claims and not just
>" guesses".

Pangborn did have to seek bankruptcy protection. If his ability
to keep track of his finances was, and presumably is, that bad, his
ability to account for the number of cases he's had will surely be
equally as bad.
Of course the problem that Pangborn RUNS from is the MASSIVE
difference between his guesses.
In 2002 he guessed two to three thousands cases over the course
of his career. In 2009 Kenneth Robert Pangborn guessed a few hundred
cases over the course of his career.
Either is possible, but there is no way both can be. One MUST be
a lie (if it were a mistake, Pangborn would have simply admitted it,
taking away any ammo anyone had).

>
>" Course in your case you're all about the money, not the integrity.

And he's not getting anywhere near what he was. The more the
TRUTH about Kenneth Robert Pangborn's cons and frauds come to light,
the less he's able to run his scam.

"It's attached to a thing called a "WIFE" Betty."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn showing how he views his wife
as an object and NOT a human being.
Message-ID: <KLf2j.31312$9h.4837@trnddc07>

Kent Wills

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:15:08 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

>G > Dan, You're complaining about somebody's
>G > number where their business goes up and down.
>G >
>G > Their averages do change.
>
>DJS3 > In 2002 pangborn claimed his total cases was "2 to 3 thousand."
>DJS3 > In 2009 pangborn claimed "hundreds."
>DJS3 > That's not averages, grag, that's pangborn's claims of TOTAL
>cases!
>
>You can't even keep straight your 20+ Child Protection investigations!
>The number revises down on your whim??

There's no revision, outside of your drug induced delusions.
That you LIED and claimed 20+ only means you lied, nothing more.

>
>And WHAT exactly is your line of work or business, Dan?
>I want to see your stats, Dan!
>
>So far I have this:
>
>Daniel J. Sullivan III had 20+ investigations for child abuse
>and was FOUNDED at least 5 times, one FOUNDED was
>for CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE

Unlike you, Dan has no founded reports on his record.
Or where you lying when you claimed you are on Iowa's Child Abuse
Registry?

Kent Wills

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:43:28 AM12/22/09
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:50:10 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Dec 21, 9:49�pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> KRP > Your declaration of victory and
>> KRP > REALITY are too different things, Sullivan.
>>
>> DJS3 > Want it to stop? �Stop posting!!!
>>
>> Is that your GOAL, Dan?
>
> Its our hope for a Christmas miracle that both you and Kennie get a
>life outside of the internet.
>
> Personally I'd send both of you for Christmas working Cenobite puzzle
>boxes for you to open.
>

You know neither is going to fully get the reference. Still,
FUNNY!

>>
>> [...]
>>
>> KRP > OR ELSE? Or else you'll drone on with the same
>> KRP > bullshit over and over and over again?
>> KRP > 20 to 30 posts each day for the past several
>> KRP > days, ALL saying the same bullshit.
>>
>> DJS3 > The accurate figure is 12 posts over two days, pangborn.
>>
>> KRP > ��Do you know, PROFESSOR, what the word "GUESS" means?
>>
>> DJS3 > A "guess," is any number a bankrupt fraud
>> DJS3 > of a "trial consultant" named ken pangborn
>> DJS3 > makes between a few hundred and 3,000.
>>
>> DJS3 >
>> DJS3 > RRR RRR RRRRR....
>>
>> Turning pirate, Dan?
>> [...]
>
>Its another way to show laughter Grag.
>

In this case, I think Dan is paying homage to Kane, who
consistently PROVED Greg the worthless scum he was, is, and shall
forever be (until he dies).
Greg would have seen this, of course. His OBSESSION with Kane is
such that there is no way he couldn't. I caught it, and as far as I
know, I've had no communication with the guy. It's possible he's
written me and not identified himself.
Greg did motivate me to read Kane's posts on Google. It's
something Greg has come to regret since he's offering the same
arguments. I simply use Kane's methods of destroying the dullard's
(that's Greg) claims.

Kent Wills

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:53:24 AM12/22/09
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:18:53 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> > Is it possible you can STOP boring me to death with dozens of posts all
>> > saying the same idiotic thing?
>>
>> The "same idiotic thing" is you getting caught lying, pangborn.
>
> Agreed.
>>
>> Want it to stop?
>>
>> Stop posting!!!
>>
>> LOL!!!
>
> (( Derisive snort)) Good luck with that one. Kennie is too addicted
>to stop posting.

According to Greg's standards, Pangborn is addicted. Of course,
these are Greg's standards, so few others will agree.

> Look at the thread about his DD-412. You'd think by now he'd figure
>out his act isn't selling, but he still is making excuses and bullshit

But it has served it's purpose: To divert attention away from
his obligation to make the proof he claims to possess that David was
adopted available.
It's pretty clear Kenneth Robert Pangborn was caught in another
of his MANY drunken pathological lies when he gave his word that he
would make the proof available. David met the conditions Ken set, but
since the claim of David being adopted was and is clearly a lie, Ken
couldn't make the proof available.
Oh dear. Did I force this thread to discuss Pangborn's finality
to honor his word?

"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."

-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)

Dan Sullivan

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On Dec 21, 5:35 pm, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

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Greegor

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:55:14 PM12/22/09
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Moe > Personally I'd send both of you for Christmas
Moe > working Cenobite puzzle boxes for you to open.

You little hellraiser you!
Movie fantasy fiction insults? LOL

May your broom chafe where you ride it.

Dan Sullivan

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Dan Sullivan

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womanGoddess

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Dec 22, 2009, 9:37:26 PM12/22/09
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On Dec 22, 12:55 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Moe > Personally I'd send both of you for Christmas
> Moe > working Cenobite puzzle boxes for you to open.
>
> You little hellraiser you!
> Movie fantasy fiction insults?   LOL

You actually bothered to look it up. Amazing considering how bad you
are in actually finding anything online.

>
> May your broom chafe where you ride it.

I don't ride brooms Grag, but thank you for your anti-Wiccan childish
taunt.

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