medieval history discussion
Cerebus
and religious history, particularly women's history, all topics that
seem to be desperately lacking on the net and in this newsgroup. (Not
to mention the real world). Sarah is particularly seeking Hildegard
of Bingen discussion, whereas I'd be thrilled just to see medieval
women's history mentioned at all, but I'd love to hear from
Chaucerians. (Yes, I know this is a history group, not a lit group,
but there is a sad lack there as well.)
Anyhow, people are strongly encouraged to e-mail and discuss said
subjects if they are of any interest at all. Sarah's e-mail address
is st90...@pip.cc.brandeis.edu. Mine you can figure out from the
header. BTW, we are not particularly looking for the SCA. We want to
talk about it, not live it.
Thanks in advance.
--Sharon Astyk and Sarah Bromberg
Chris Brewster
A friend of mine and I were hoping for a discussion of medieval social
and religious history, particularly women's history, all topics that
seem to be desperately lacking on the net and in this newsgroup. (Not
to mention the real world). Sarah is particularly seeking Hildegard
of Bingen discussion, whereas I'd be thrilled just to see medieval
women's history mentioned at all, but I'd love to hear from
Chaucerians. (Yes, I know this is a history group, not a lit group,
but there is a sad lack there as well.)
Postings like this make me impatient. You wonder why the topic isn't
being discussed? Because *you* didn't post anything about it!
Newsgroups don't run on automatic pilot. The postings don't just float
out of the void; they come from people with a variety of concerns, just
like yourself. So post something! I too would like to see something
about Hildegard, and you're just the people to do it.
Chris Brewster E-MAIL ADDRESS: c...@cray.com
Fred Rump from home
>Sharon Astyk and Sarah Bromberg write:
> A friend of mine and I were hoping for a discussion of medieval social
> and religious history, particularly women's history, all topics that
> seem to be desperately lacking on the net and in this newsgroup. (Not
>Postings like this make me impatient. You wonder why the topic isn't
>being discussed? Because *you* didn't post anything about it!
>Newsgroups don't run on automatic pilot. The postings don't just float
>out of the void; they come from people with a variety of concerns, just
I love it. How often have I thought those words when someone asks for a
discussion while sitting by - waiting for it to start. Thanks for the chuckle.
Fred
--
W. Fred Rump office: fr...@COMPU.COM "Home to a boy is merely like
26 Warren St. home: f...@icdi10.compu.com a filling station" (He's 25)
Beverly, NJ. 08010
609-386-6846 bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr
st90...@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
>Sharon Astyk and Sarah Bromberg write:
> A friend of mine and I were hoping for a discussion of medieval social
> and religious history, particularly women's history, all topics that
> seem to be desperately lacking on the net and in this newsgroup. (Not
>Postings like this make me impatient. You wonder why the topic isn't
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>being discussed? Because *you* didn't post anything about it!
>Newsgroups don't run on automatic pilot. The postings don't just float
>out of the void; they come from people with a variety of concerns, just
I love it. How often have I thought those words when someone asks for a
discussion while sitting by - waiting for it to start. Thanks for the chuckle.
Fred
--
W. Fred Rump office: fr...@COMPU.COM "Home to a boy is merely like
26 Warren St. home: f...@icdi10.compu.com a filling station" (He's 25)
Beverly, NJ. 08010
609-386-6846 bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr
ok I get the point. I really don't think we were sitting
idly by, but we were wondering if there was sufficient interest out there
for us to post to. Anyway, I would like to start a discussion On
Hildegard of Bingen. If there are any Hildegard fans out there please let
me know. I have been fascinated with her writings,music,politics,science
and art. I am interested in her theories of how the universe is constructed--which are described in the Scivias[the vision where the universe is
pictured to resemble an egg] and which are described in the first four
visions of the Liber Divinorum Operum[the Divine Works]. I am curiuos as
to where these ideas originated from. I know that her ideas are similar
to those of Plato,aristotle and bernard silvestris. so one thing i
would like to question is the specific origin of her conceptions of the
universe. i am also interested in her use of what Barbara Newman
calls "St. Hildegards
's Theology of the Feminine" I am just begining to learn about sapiential
wisdom theology and I would like to discuss that because as I read more, I
will have more questions. If anyone has read the books by Barbara
Newman or Carolyn Walker Bynum or Francis Beer that concern Hildegard,
let me know. I am currently trying to investigate what Hildegard
says bout Eve and Mary. Most people in the middle ages seem to have
believed that Mary=pure virgin and that Eve=sin. I am exploring
how Hildegard responds to this dechotomy. In the Scivias, she blames
the serpant for tempting Eve, but in may of her songs, she seems to
blame Eve. Any thoughts on what Hildegard says about this
traditional dichotomy would be great. I am just starting this reading,
so I would be very happy to hear from any Hildegard fans.
I also have questions and thoughts about the erotic nature of her
visions, art and songs. I am also really interested in how her
illustrations follow or don't follow medieval iconography, but I have
not been able to find much information on this topic. I have read some
of Emile Male's art history and found a scrap of information in
the Pelican book of medieval iconograpy, but that is it.
My address is st90...@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Cerebus
>c...@tamarack13.timbuk (Chris Brewster) writes:
>>Sharon Astyk and Sarah Bromberg write:
>> A friend of mine and I were hoping for a discussion of medieval social
>> and religious history, particularly women's history, all topics that
>> seem to be desperately lacking on the net and in this newsgroup. (Not
>>Postings like this make me impatient. You wonder why the topic isn't
>>being discussed? Because *you* didn't post anything about it!
>>Newsgroups don't run on automatic pilot. The postings don't just float
>>out of the void; they come from people with a variety of concerns, just
>I love it. How often have I thought those words when someone asks for a
>discussion while sitting by - waiting for it to start. Thanks for the chuckle.
In case you hadn't read the rest of the post, we both agreed that
there was insufficient traffic on this newsgroup for said discussions
and were seeking interested parties for an *e-mail* discussion, as I
find genocide, while fascinating to be a relatively limited and
occasionally tiresome topic of discussion, and women as a topic are
clearly of no interest to anyone :-).
If you want a discussion, how about discussing medieval sexual
iconography and imagery. Does anyone else fiind interesting John
Boswell's assertion in his discussion of Ganymede that the
eroticization of the male form in literature occurred not at the
expense of the eroticization of women, but instead created a new genre
of sexualized androgynes.
Does anyone find this intriguing in the light of Marlowe and
Shakespeare's sexualization of homosexual and social relations? How
do others view the translation to practical existance?
--Sharon Astyk