Received: by 10.66.84.34 with SMTP id v2mr833667pay.38.1352895096773; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:11:36 -0800 (PST) Path: s9ni10979pbb.0!nntp.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!198.186.190.247.MISMATCH!news-xxxfer.readnews.com!news-out.readnews.com!transit3.readnews.com!s09-11.readnews.com!unm2.readnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=YB:fLbCN4Cja7I;^P=SmDcTLaYZ5A`]3g]UVm4ab0o;o]liF3VAEIRa=nJW699lelo9L;@DS1a:;g8a=B29oI0chiNB:AQ6]Yld8Q_bBgGoP0k X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenet-news.net From: SolomonW Subject: Re: Summer 1914 Would the nice guy finish last? Part 3 - Germany Newsgroups: soc.history.what-if User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0feea919-05cb-45a9-a3a2-80113d8dc0ed@googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 23:11:28 +1100 Message-ID: <1pvd4cx4aqb80$.jl9uac0kiapj$.dlg@40tude.net> Lines: 23 Organization: readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs NNTP-Posting-Host: 940a8d92.newsreader.readnews.com Bytes: 2308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:14:32 -0800 (PST), Rob wrote: > What if the German military/cabinet/crown decided that the situation in 1914 was not favorable for a war given the poor state of its alliances resources compared with the Triple Entente? > > Therefore, it opts to calibrate Austria-Hungary's response to the Sarajevo events to the point that some punishment/humiliation can be inflicted on Serbia, but only to the point that Serbia and the Entente can accept without getting their backs up. > > IE, Germany can support some Austro-Hungarian demands, but never issues a "blank check" to Vienna. > > What are the near and medium term most probable consequences - > > If Germany gave Austria limited support in July 1914 crisis > A) Stops Entente-Central war in 1914 > B) Does not stop 1914 war & leaves Central military prospects worse > C) Does not stop 1914 war & leaves Central military prospects same > D) Germany fights Entente by 1925, with worse prospects > E) Germany fights Entente by 1925, with better prospects > F) Germany avoids war & loss of relative stature well past 1925 > G) Eventually fights Entente & all or part of A-H are on Entente side? A-H may find herself in a war with Russia, that without Germany she would lose. I think A-H might be tempted to accept Serbia terms.