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a425couple
Jan 5, 2013, 5:53:56 PM1/5/13
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I normally do not care for the "cracked" versions of history.
Often, they are really badly distorted to read 'funny'.
But, IMHO, this one is quite truthful, and still funny.
Yes, Yes, IMHO, George had true BALLS!
http://www.cracked.com/article_20182_5-reasons-george-washington-was-either-lucky-or-wizard.html
5 Reasons George Washington Was Either Lucky or a Wizard
By: W. Stinnett January 05, 2013 236,313 views
(Wow! over 200,000 views already!!)
"The fact that George Washington didn't die in battle proves that he
couldn't die in battle, because he really really should have died in battle.
Perhaps someone should have tried cutting his head off with a sword,
because looking at the facts, the first real president of the United States
was a fucking Highlander. He thwarted death, fell into the presidency,
and succeeded only by the most fortuitous of flukes.
----
Braddock was shot off his horse. The British troops were surrounded
and couldn't seem to get organized. Then Washington, basically the army
equivalent of a golf caddy, started giving the troops orders, riding back
and forth between them and the officers. Now, that's not luck; that's
just balls. He was giving orders despite the fact that he was a volunteer
who held no rank, and if that wasn't bad enough, his horse got shot out
from under him.
Twice.
We can't stress enough that Washington was just a guy who volunteered
because he knew the area well. After his general was incapacitated,
he didn't think, "Shit, this does not end well for me," but instead, "Whoa,
looks like a position just opened up. Shotgun!" Then, in battle, when a
horse was shot out from under him, he just got another, like that was
nothing. Then, when it happened again, he GOT ANOTHER. Instead
of realizing that God wanted him to fucking walk, Washington just
thought, "Oh, bad day for horses," and picked the next victim."
---
"Years later, an Indian chief traveled to meet Washington.
He recounted the battle, saying, "Our rifles were leveled, rifles
which, but for you, knew not how to miss ... I am come to pay
homage to the man ... who can never die in battle." Let's be clear:
We here at Cracked believe that if a Native American says that
someone is magic, that person is magic. Not up for discussion."
IMHO, go to the site and read it all.
It's worth it!
Read more:
http://www.cracked.com/article_20182_5-reasons-george-washington-was-either-lucky-or-wizard.html#ixzz2H8v2v2L4
Often, they are really badly distorted to read 'funny'.
But, IMHO, this one is quite truthful, and still funny.
Yes, Yes, IMHO, George had true BALLS!
http://www.cracked.com/article_20182_5-reasons-george-washington-was-either-lucky-or-wizard.html
5 Reasons George Washington Was Either Lucky or a Wizard
By: W. Stinnett January 05, 2013 236,313 views
(Wow! over 200,000 views already!!)
"The fact that George Washington didn't die in battle proves that he
couldn't die in battle, because he really really should have died in battle.
Perhaps someone should have tried cutting his head off with a sword,
because looking at the facts, the first real president of the United States
was a fucking Highlander. He thwarted death, fell into the presidency,
and succeeded only by the most fortuitous of flukes.
----
Braddock was shot off his horse. The British troops were surrounded
and couldn't seem to get organized. Then Washington, basically the army
equivalent of a golf caddy, started giving the troops orders, riding back
and forth between them and the officers. Now, that's not luck; that's
just balls. He was giving orders despite the fact that he was a volunteer
who held no rank, and if that wasn't bad enough, his horse got shot out
from under him.
Twice.
We can't stress enough that Washington was just a guy who volunteered
because he knew the area well. After his general was incapacitated,
he didn't think, "Shit, this does not end well for me," but instead, "Whoa,
looks like a position just opened up. Shotgun!" Then, in battle, when a
horse was shot out from under him, he just got another, like that was
nothing. Then, when it happened again, he GOT ANOTHER. Instead
of realizing that God wanted him to fucking walk, Washington just
thought, "Oh, bad day for horses," and picked the next victim."
---
"Years later, an Indian chief traveled to meet Washington.
He recounted the battle, saying, "Our rifles were leveled, rifles
which, but for you, knew not how to miss ... I am come to pay
homage to the man ... who can never die in battle." Let's be clear:
We here at Cracked believe that if a Native American says that
someone is magic, that person is magic. Not up for discussion."
IMHO, go to the site and read it all.
It's worth it!
Read more:
http://www.cracked.com/article_20182_5-reasons-george-washington-was-either-lucky-or-wizard.html#ixzz2H8v2v2L4
dott.Piergiorgio
Jan 6, 2013, 5:52:04 AM1/6/13
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Il 05/01/2013 23:53, a425couple ha scritto:
> I normally do not care for the "cracked" versions of history.
> Often, they are really badly distorted to read 'funny'.
> But, IMHO, this one is quite truthful, and still funny.
> Yes, Yes, IMHO, George had true BALLS!
funny, even for one as me... for sure he know the most subtle part of
> I normally do not care for the "cracked" versions of history.
> Often, they are really badly distorted to read 'funny'.
> But, IMHO, this one is quite truthful, and still funny.
> Yes, Yes, IMHO, George had true BALLS!
the Art of Command, how to inspire, rally and motivate mens (naval
content: it's known also as "Nelson touch")
Metaphysically, Washington was a known Deist and a Masonic; but, for my
perspective let's look into his history prior of FIW and Revolutionary
War, he was a surveyor, and this between Viriginia and what later became
W Virginia; and surveying a rather difficult wilderness, still largely
dominated by the natives, is a good way to learn not few unusual
survival & dealing with people methods....
Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.
a425couple
Jan 6, 2013, 12:33:42 PM1/6/13
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"dott.Piergiorgio" <chied...@ask.me> wrote in message...
> Metaphysically, Washington was a known Deist and a Masonic; ---
Well, although the exact nature of Washington's religious beliefs has
been debated by historians and biographers for over two hundred years,
I put considerable weight in what Ron Chernow said, in a 2010 podcast
to sum up Washington's religious views:
"There has been a huge controversy, to put it mildly, about Washington's
religious beliefs. Before the Revolutionary War he was Anglican - Church
of England - which meant after the war, he was Episcopalian. So, he was
clearly Christian ... He was quite intensely religious, because even though
he uses the word Providence, he constantly sees Providence as an active
force in life, particularly in American life. I mean, every single victory
in
war he credits to Providence. The miracle of the Constitutional Convention
he credits to Providence. The creation of the federal government and the
prosperity of the early republic, he credits to Providence ... I was struck
at how frequently in his letters he's referring to Providence, and it's
Providence
where there's a sense of design and purpose, which sounds to me very much
like religion ... Unfortunately, this particular issue has become very very
politicized."
If, in fact, "the Deist maintained that God endowed the world at creation
with self-sustaining and self-acting powers and then abandoned it to the
operation of these powers acting as second causes",
and if Deists do not believe in miracles,,,
then why did GW spend so much documented time in private devotions?
To what view of odds & probabilities did he consider all
the bullets shot at him, and all the lucky weather events, etc.?
Ahh, probably all answered in the statement,
"I'd rather be lucky than good!"
Well, GW was certainly both!
Also, probably worth noting (in the constant friction of
misinterpretation between European understanding,
and North American/USA understandings)
re: Freemasnonry "He was attracted by the movement's dedication
to the Enlightenment principles of rationality, reason and fraternalism;
the American lodges did not share the anti-clerical perspective that
made the European lodges so controversial".
And, as always, my best regards back to you.
And, by the way Dott., I've often enough posted
(in the realm of Max Webber's Protestanism & Capitalism)
about Amintore Fanfani's writtings ("Catholicism, Protestantism,
and Capitalism.")
Do you have any particular views on him that you wish to share?
> a425couple ha scritto:
>> I normally do not care for the "cracked" versions of history.
>> Often, they are really badly distorted to read 'funny'.
>> But, IMHO, this one is quite truthful, and still funny.
>> Yes, Yes, IMHO, George had true BALLS!
>
> funny, even for one as me... for sure he know the most subtle part of the
> Art of Command, how to inspire, rally and motivate mens (naval content:
> it's known also as "Nelson touch")
Yes indeed, he did inspire & motivate.
>> I normally do not care for the "cracked" versions of history.
>> Often, they are really badly distorted to read 'funny'.
>> But, IMHO, this one is quite truthful, and still funny.
>> Yes, Yes, IMHO, George had true BALLS!
>
> funny, even for one as me... for sure he know the most subtle part of the
> Art of Command, how to inspire, rally and motivate mens (naval content:
> it's known also as "Nelson touch")
> Metaphysically, Washington was a known Deist and a Masonic; ---
Well, although the exact nature of Washington's religious beliefs has
been debated by historians and biographers for over two hundred years,
I put considerable weight in what Ron Chernow said, in a 2010 podcast
to sum up Washington's religious views:
"There has been a huge controversy, to put it mildly, about Washington's
religious beliefs. Before the Revolutionary War he was Anglican - Church
of England - which meant after the war, he was Episcopalian. So, he was
clearly Christian ... He was quite intensely religious, because even though
he uses the word Providence, he constantly sees Providence as an active
force in life, particularly in American life. I mean, every single victory
in
war he credits to Providence. The miracle of the Constitutional Convention
he credits to Providence. The creation of the federal government and the
prosperity of the early republic, he credits to Providence ... I was struck
at how frequently in his letters he's referring to Providence, and it's
Providence
where there's a sense of design and purpose, which sounds to me very much
like religion ... Unfortunately, this particular issue has become very very
politicized."
If, in fact, "the Deist maintained that God endowed the world at creation
with self-sustaining and self-acting powers and then abandoned it to the
operation of these powers acting as second causes",
and if Deists do not believe in miracles,,,
then why did GW spend so much documented time in private devotions?
To what view of odds & probabilities did he consider all
the bullets shot at him, and all the lucky weather events, etc.?
Ahh, probably all answered in the statement,
"I'd rather be lucky than good!"
Well, GW was certainly both!
Also, probably worth noting (in the constant friction of
misinterpretation between European understanding,
and North American/USA understandings)
re: Freemasnonry "He was attracted by the movement's dedication
to the Enlightenment principles of rationality, reason and fraternalism;
the American lodges did not share the anti-clerical perspective that
made the European lodges so controversial".
And, as always, my best regards back to you.
And, by the way Dott., I've often enough posted
(in the realm of Max Webber's Protestanism & Capitalism)
about Amintore Fanfani's writtings ("Catholicism, Protestantism,
and Capitalism.")
Do you have any particular views on him that you wish to share?
dott.Piergiorgio
Jan 7, 2013, 8:25:29 AM1/7/13
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looks to me a method of referring to his private beliefs w/o offending
and/or bewildering others; and the meaning of the word Providence for me
hints in believing that nothing happens by chance and there's a Design
(pointing to Freemasonic thinking)
If you have other interpretation of his wording, please share.....
> Also, probably worth noting (in the constant friction of
> misinterpretation between European understanding,
> and North American/USA understandings)
> re: Freemasnonry "He was attracted by the movement's dedication
> to the Enlightenment principles of rationality, reason and fraternalism;
> the American lodges did not share the anti-clerical perspective that
> made the European lodges so controversial".
reasons (meddling in low politics and power, abusing of anticommunism
ideals, and, of curse, bribes and corruption...) up to receiving an
"excommunication" of sort from the Great Lodge of Edinburgh...
If you look up Licio Gelli and the P2 (Propaganda due) lodge ("loggia")
and the recent involvment of (pseudo)masons in recent bribe scandal
(nicknamed P3 and P4 here) you get an idea of the pathetic state of the
freemasonry here.
but I reckon that here are still few Masons whose are really serious in
their beliefs
> And, by the way Dott., I've often enough posted
> (in the realm of Max Webber's Protestanism & Capitalism)
> about Amintore Fanfani's writtings ("Catholicism, Protestantism,
> and Capitalism.")
> Do you have any particular views on him that you wish to share?
collection of paintings, and he died heartbroken in the wake of the fire
whose destroyed his house (and pinacoteca); I remember when I see him
last time on the TV news, in the immediate aftermath, and everyone in my
house commented that he will not survive this catastrophe (and indeed
died a pair or so days after...) because we known well his serious
interest and passion for Art, because my grandfather was a
high-respected and important antique dealer and expert.
a425couple
Jan 7, 2013, 3:05:45 PM1/7/13
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> Il 06/01/2013 18:33, a425couple ha scritto:
>>> Metaphysically, Washington was a known Deist and a Masonic; ---
>> I put considerable weight in what Ron Chernow said, ---
>>> Metaphysically, Washington was a known Deist and a Masonic; ---
>> then why did GW spend so much documented time in private devotions?
>> To what view of odds & probabilities did he consider all
>> the bullets shot at him, and all the lucky weather events, etc.?
>>
>> Ahh, probably all answered in the statement,
>> "I'd rather be lucky than good!"
>> Well, GW was certainly both!
>
> My interpretation stems indeed from his heavy usage of Providence, whose
> looks to me a method of referring to his private beliefs w/o offending
> and/or bewildering others; and the meaning of the word Providence for me
> hints in believing that nothing happens by chance and there's a Design
> (pointing to Freemasonic thinking)
>
> If you have other interpretation of his wording, please share.....
I am quite content / just fine, with the interpretation you have stated.
>> To what view of odds & probabilities did he consider all
>> the bullets shot at him, and all the lucky weather events, etc.?
>>
>> Ahh, probably all answered in the statement,
>> "I'd rather be lucky than good!"
>> Well, GW was certainly both!
>
> My interpretation stems indeed from his heavy usage of Providence, whose
> looks to me a method of referring to his private beliefs w/o offending
> and/or bewildering others; and the meaning of the word Providence for me
> hints in believing that nothing happens by chance and there's a Design
> (pointing to Freemasonic thinking)
>
> If you have other interpretation of his wording, please share.....
>> Also, probably worth noting (in the constant friction of
>> misinterpretation between European understanding,
>> and North American/USA understandings)
>> re: Freemasnonry "He was attracted by the movement's dedication
>> to the Enlightenment principles of rationality, reason and fraternalism;
>> the American lodges did not share the anti-clerical perspective that
>> made the European lodges so controversial".
>
> well, Italian lodges are rather controversial, but for very different
> reasons (meddling in low politics and power, abusing of anticommunism
> ideals, and, of curse, bribes and corruption...) up to receiving an
> "excommunication" of sort from the Great Lodge of Edinburgh...
>
> If you look up Licio Gelli and the P2 (Propaganda due) lodge ("loggia")
> and the recent involvment of (pseudo)masons in recent bribe scandal
> (nicknamed P3 and P4 here) you get an idea of the pathetic state of the
> freemasonry here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licio_Gelli
and the "See also".
I do also see, "This original lodge, however, had little to do with the one
Licio Gelli established in 1966, two years after becoming a freemason."
I'd say, "A quite tainted individual". (terrorist activity)
For whatever reason, I'm reminded of a professional oath
I took a considerable number of years ago that included
the words "I will keep my personal life unsullied."
IMHO, he did sully all over hisself!
> but I reckon that here are still few Masons whose are really serious in
> their beliefs
I do note that it is very popular in books and other
media to go off on conspiracy theories about various
fraternal organizations (most famously masons &
Skull & Bones). I've never been a mason, but I've
had long and deep involvement in another fraternal
order with similarly secret 'rites & initiation'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_general_fraternities
(Regrets - I'm getting a little
computer grand mal siezure
so I'm going to try sending it "as is"
and incomplete & incorrect,
because I know, despite best intentions,
I'm unlikely to start it all again from zero!)
>
>> And, by the way Dott., I've often enough posted
>> (in the realm of Max Webber's Protestanism & Capitalism)
>> about Amintore Fanfani's writtings ("Catholicism, Protestantism,
>> and Capitalism.")
>> Do you have any particular views on him that you wish to share?
>
> on his book, no, but personal recollections; he owned a large private
> collection of paintings, and he died heartbroken in the wake of the fire
> whose destroyed his house (and pinacoteca); I remember when I see him last
> time on the TV news, in the immediate aftermath, and everyone in my house
> commented that he will not survive this catastrophe (and indeed died a
> pair or so days after...) because we known well his serious interest and
> passion for Art, because my grandfather was a high-respected and important
> antique dealer and expert.
>
> Best regards from Italy,
> dott. Piergiorgio.
>
I posted with 'real' information to Andrew & you.
(easy enough to miss given the 'swarm' there)
IMHO, probably worth your reading for information only.
dott.Piergiorgio
Jan 8, 2013, 7:53:35 AM1/8/13
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Il 07/01/2013 21:05, a425couple ha scritto:
> And by the way, on January 5 on the "Gun Control---" topic
> I posted with 'real' information to Andrew & you.
> (easy enough to miss given the 'swarm' there)
> IMHO, probably worth your reading for information only.
ahem... I must apologise, I have plonked that thread (improving
> And by the way, on January 5 on the "Gun Control---" topic
> I posted with 'real' information to Andrew & you.
> (easy enough to miss given the 'swarm' there)
> IMHO, probably worth your reading for information only.
drastically the S/N ratio...) you can repost it in a new thread ?
sorry for the inconvenience....
a425couple
Jan 8, 2013, 12:18:18 PM1/8/13
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"dott.Piergiorgio" <chied...@ask.me> wrote in message...
> Il 07/01/2013 21:05, a425couple ha scritto:
>> And by the way, on January 5 on the "Gun Control---" topic
>> I posted with 'real' information to Andrew & you.
>> (easy enough to miss given the 'swarm' there)
>> IMHO, probably worth your reading for information only.
>
> ahem... I must apologise, I have plonked that thread (improving
> drastically the S/N ratio...)
#1 I can understand that desire/wish and action.
>> And by the way, on January 5 on the "Gun Control---" topic
>> I posted with 'real' information to Andrew & you.
>> (easy enough to miss given the 'swarm' there)
>> IMHO, probably worth your reading for information only.
>
> ahem... I must apologise, I have plonked that thread (improving
> drastically the S/N ratio...)
This is a case where my "Windows Mail" structure
works nice. Each "Subject" (title) is just one line,
so all newer are easily seen new ones.
But, upon clicking on the old subject it is expanded
into an 'outline' form. So, easy enough to still look
to see if anyone is responding to one of my posts,
while ignoring the massive "Did Not" & "Did Sos",
and natterings. Can still view & read the posters
that I do wish to read.
> you can repost it in a new thread ?
> sorry for the inconvenience....
Two hours ago & no visable bounce back
that I see. If you do not get it, let me know
and I'll repost it here.
a425couple
Jan 11, 2013, 9:27:31 AM1/11/13
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"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
(below here can be sniped)
As stated, "Regrets", sorry about that....
Well, in many ways, I am happy enough that
I was able to save and send what I had done
before the forced shutdown
(lost a fair amount of other things,, such is life!)
Anyway, back on George Washington.
There is no doubt he did become, early on,
a mason. And never felt a need to repudiate that.
He also passed up on later efforts to get him
more involved in it.
So, IMHO, trying to 'argue' as to his 'real' beliefs,
from the simple historical fact he did join what
in current language would be a "network"
seems a far stretch.
I will grant, that by his joining, that he found nothing
terribly 'objectionable' in the initial "oath". And that is
about all that I will grant.
So, IMHO, those trying to link him, and others
into big conspiracies because of that fact,
just appear to me to be hogwash.
My fraternal order has had members as diverse
as POTUS and men who basicly were unemployable.
No particularly strong common bond, except that
they were pledged to treat each other fairly and try
to help a brother out when reasonable.
As stated, "Regrets", sorry about that....
Well, in many ways, I am happy enough that
I was able to save and send what I had done
before the forced shutdown
(lost a fair amount of other things,, such is life!)
Anyway, back on George Washington.
There is no doubt he did become, early on,
a mason. And never felt a need to repudiate that.
He also passed up on later efforts to get him
more involved in it.
So, IMHO, trying to 'argue' as to his 'real' beliefs,
from the simple historical fact he did join what
in current language would be a "network"
seems a far stretch.
I will grant, that by his joining, that he found nothing
terribly 'objectionable' in the initial "oath". And that is
about all that I will grant.
So, IMHO, those trying to link him, and others
into big conspiracies because of that fact,
just appear to me to be hogwash.
My fraternal order has had members as diverse
as POTUS and men who basicly were unemployable.
No particularly strong common bond, except that
they were pledged to treat each other fairly and try
to help a brother out when reasonable.
a425couple
Jan 11, 2013, 10:35:31 AM1/11/13
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"dott.Piergiorgio" <chied...@ask.me> wrote in message...
(Well, to be more accurate, he sent it a number of days ago,
it's just that a425 seemed to involved in other issues----) :
To make this a valid smn topic George Washington wanted to joint the British
Navy at age 16 but his mother would not let him. As a substitute he joined a
cousin George Fairfax on a surveying expedition, which led him to his land
acquisition and the experience in the West that made his career.
and:
I seem to have forgotten to send this. Dr. Piergiorgio should know that
there was little money in colonial America. Wealth was measured by land
holdings, of which George Washington held 65,000 acres in the areas he
surveyed. The experience of surveying this area in his youth (16-20 years)
gave him the office he held with the British army in the French and Indian
War. George Washington Surveyor in google-land gives some credence to this
data.
dott.Piergiorgio
Jan 11, 2013, 1:44:12 PM1/11/13
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Il 11/01/2013 16:35, a425couple ha scritto:
> Jack Linthicum sends
> To make this a valid smn topic George Washington wanted to joint the
> British Navy at age 16 but his mother would not let him. As a substitute
> he joined a cousin George Fairfax on a surveying expedition, which led
> him to his land acquisition and the experience in the West that made
> his career.
>
> and:
> I seem to have forgotten to send this. Dr. Piergiorgio should know that
> there was little money in colonial America. Wealth was measured by land
> holdings, of which George Washington held 65,000 acres in the areas he
> surveyed. The experience of surveying this area in his youth (16-20
> years) gave him the office he held with the British army in the French
> and Indian War. George Washington Surveyor in google-land gives some
> credence to this data.
well, please send to jack this:
Of course I known well about GW in His Majesty's service, because I have
around Parkman's Montcalm and Wolfe; but I don't get what he mean with
"surveyor in google-land"..... I'm positively sure he don't joke on the
huge differences in surveying & mapping tools.
Indeed on GW's ability on handling battles & morale I take into account
his not exactly stellar start...
and for the different military, instead of Naval career, I can surely
say that is a definite intervention of Providence :)
> Jack Linthicum sends
> To make this a valid smn topic George Washington wanted to joint the
> British Navy at age 16 but his mother would not let him. As a substitute
> he joined a cousin George Fairfax on a surveying expedition, which led
> him to his land acquisition and the experience in the West that made
> his career.
>
> and:
> I seem to have forgotten to send this. Dr. Piergiorgio should know that
> there was little money in colonial America. Wealth was measured by land
> holdings, of which George Washington held 65,000 acres in the areas he
> surveyed. The experience of surveying this area in his youth (16-20
> years) gave him the office he held with the British army in the French
> and Indian War. George Washington Surveyor in google-land gives some
> credence to this data.
Of course I known well about GW in His Majesty's service, because I have
around Parkman's Montcalm and Wolfe; but I don't get what he mean with
"surveyor in google-land"..... I'm positively sure he don't joke on the
huge differences in surveying & mapping tools.
Indeed on GW's ability on handling battles & morale I take into account
his not exactly stellar start...
and for the different military, instead of Naval career, I can surely
say that is a definite intervention of Providence :)
a425couple
Jan 11, 2013, 2:25:18 PM1/11/13
to
"dott.Piergiorgio" <chied...@ask.me> wrote in message...
> a425couple ha scritto:
>> Jack Linthicum sends
>
>> To make this a valid smn topic George Washington wanted to joint the
>> British Navy at age 16 but his mother would not let him. As a substitute
>> he joined a cousin George Fairfax on a surveying expedition, which led
>> him to his land acquisition and the experience in the West that made
>> his career.
>>
>> and:
>> I seem to have forgotten to send this. Dr. Piergiorgio should know that
>> there was little money in colonial America. Wealth was measured by land
>> holdings, of which George Washington held 65,000 acres in the areas he
>> surveyed. The experience of surveying this area in his youth (16-20
>> years) gave him the office he held with the British army in the French
>> and Indian War. George Washington Surveyor in google-land gives some
>> credence to this data.
This looks like a quick one -
>> Jack Linthicum sends
>
>> To make this a valid smn topic George Washington wanted to joint the
>> British Navy at age 16 but his mother would not let him. As a substitute
>> he joined a cousin George Fairfax on a surveying expedition, which led
>> him to his land acquisition and the experience in the West that made
>> his career.
>>
>> and:
>> I seem to have forgotten to send this. Dr. Piergiorgio should know that
>> there was little money in colonial America. Wealth was measured by land
>> holdings, of which George Washington held 65,000 acres in the areas he
>> surveyed. The experience of surveying this area in his youth (16-20
>> years) gave him the office he held with the British army in the French
>> and Indian War. George Washington Surveyor in google-land gives some
>> credence to this data.
easy, before I leave---
> well, please send to jack this:
(but currently can not post).
> Of course I known well about GW in His Majesty's service, because I have
> around Parkman's Montcalm and Wolfe; but I don't get what he mean with
> "surveyor in google-land"..... I'm positively sure he don't joke on the
> huge differences in surveying & mapping tools.
For me, "google.com" is a common and useful search engine.
So I believe he meant to go to google.com,
and in the search box, input
George Washington surveyor
.
And, I did not think he was joking, on you or yours.
Best wishes, goodbye for now.
Les Cargill
Jan 11, 2013, 9:47:06 PM1/11/13
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a425couple
Jan 12, 2013, 8:19:53 AM1/12/13
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"dott.Piergiorgio" <chied...@ask.me> wrote in message...
> a425couple ha scritto:
>> Jack Linthicum sends
>> To make this a valid smn topic George Washington wanted to joint the
>> British Navy at age 16 but his mother would not let him. As a substitute
>> he joined a cousin George Fairfax on a surveying expedition, which led
>> him to his land acquisition and the experience in the West that made
>> his career.
>>
>> and:
>> I seem to have forgotten to send this. Dr. Piergiorgio should know that
>> there was little money in colonial America. Wealth was measured by land
>> holdings, of which George Washington held 65,000 acres in the areas he
>> surveyed. The experience of surveying this area in his youth (16-20
>> years) gave him the office he held with the British army in the French
>> and Indian War. George Washington Surveyor in google-land gives some
>> credence to this data.
>
> well, please send to jack this:
>
> Of course I known well about GW in His Majesty's service, because I have
> around Parkman's Montcalm and Wolfe; but I don't get what he mean with
> "surveyor in google-land"..... I'm positively sure he don't joke on the
> huge differences in surveying & mapping tools.
Jack Linthicum sends:
>> Jack Linthicum sends
>> To make this a valid smn topic George Washington wanted to joint the
>> British Navy at age 16 but his mother would not let him. As a substitute
>> he joined a cousin George Fairfax on a surveying expedition, which led
>> him to his land acquisition and the experience in the West that made
>> his career.
>>
>> and:
>> I seem to have forgotten to send this. Dr. Piergiorgio should know that
>> there was little money in colonial America. Wealth was measured by land
>> holdings, of which George Washington held 65,000 acres in the areas he
>> surveyed. The experience of surveying this area in his youth (16-20
>> years) gave him the office he held with the British army in the French
>> and Indian War. George Washington Surveyor in google-land gives some
>> credence to this data.
>
> well, please send to jack this:
>
> Of course I known well about GW in His Majesty's service, because I have
> around Parkman's Montcalm and Wolfe; but I don't get what he mean with
> "surveyor in google-land"..... I'm positively sure he don't joke on the
> huge differences in surveying & mapping tools.
Appology to Dr. Piergiorgio
I am sorry you misunderstood my flippant reference to the
use of google.com as a reference for George Washington's career
as a surveyor. I am indebted to (a425couple) for passing my
comments for publication in smn and will sometimes forget the
eventual recipients may not be aware of my perchant for
casual use of English.
a425couple
Jan 12, 2013, 10:46:47 AM1/12/13
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"dott.Piergiorgio" <chied...@ask.me> wrote in message...
> a425couple ha scritto:
>> Jack Linthicum sends
>> To make this a valid smn topic George Washington ---
>> Jack Linthicum sends
>
> and for the different military, instead of Naval career, I can surely
> say that is a definite intervention of Providence :)
Bearing in mind your (dott.) earlier statement,
> and for the different military, instead of Naval career, I can surely
> say that is a definite intervention of Providence :)
"and the meaning of the word Providence for me hints in
believing that nothing happens by chance and there's a Design."
So, lest I misunderstand, In your opinion:
Was this a good "design" (and end result) for the citizens
of the British North American colonies ?
(who were 1/3 of the total British citizens and who were
given no official representation in British government)
Was this a good "design" (and end result) for individuals
around the world to have a working example of
a constitutional representative democracy?
Was this a good "design" (and end result) for Italians
to have a country to immigrate to, and trade with,
and work through wars with?
dott.Piergiorgio
Jan 13, 2013, 8:13:36 AM1/13/13
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Il 12/01/2013 14:19, a425couple ha scritto:
> Jack Linthicum sends: Appology to Dr. Piergiorgio
> I am sorry you misunderstood my flippant reference to the use of
> google.com as a reference for George Washington's career as a surveyor.
> I am indebted to (a425couple) for passing my comments for publication in
> smn and will sometimes forget the eventual recipients may not be aware
> of my perchant for casual use of English.
OK thanks; I have understand; np for your casuan & flippant use of
> Jack Linthicum sends: Appology to Dr. Piergiorgio
> I am sorry you misunderstood my flippant reference to the use of
> google.com as a reference for George Washington's career as a surveyor.
> I am indebted to (a425couple) for passing my comments for publication in
> smn and will sometimes forget the eventual recipients may not be aware
> of my perchant for casual use of English.
English; it's a nice trait of your posts :)
dott.Piergiorgio
Jan 13, 2013, 8:51:16 AM1/13/13
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Il 12/01/2013 16:46, a425couple ha scritto:
>> and for the different military, instead of Naval career, I can
>> surely say that is a definite intervention of Providence :)
>
> Bearing in mind your (dott.) earlier statement, "and the meaning of
> the word Providence for me hints in believing that nothing happens by
> chance and there's a Design." So, lest I misunderstand, In your
> opinion:
> Was this a good "design" (and end result) for the citizens of the
> British North American colonies ? (who were 1/3 of the total British
> citizens and who were given no official representation in British
> government)
>
> Was this a good "design" (and end result) for individuals around the
> world to have a working example of a constitutional representative
> democracy?
> Was this a good "design" (and end result) for Italians to have a
> country to immigrate to, and trade with, and work through wars with?
I felt some trickery in your questions, but anyway:
>> and for the different military, instead of Naval career, I can
>> surely say that is a definite intervention of Providence :)
>
> Bearing in mind your (dott.) earlier statement, "and the meaning of
> the word Providence for me hints in believing that nothing happens by
> chance and there's a Design." So, lest I misunderstand, In your
> opinion:
> Was this a good "design" (and end result) for the citizens of the
> British North American colonies ? (who were 1/3 of the total British
> citizens and who were given no official representation in British
> government)
>
> Was this a good "design" (and end result) for individuals around the
> world to have a working example of a constitutional representative
> democracy?
> Was this a good "design" (and end result) for Italians to have a
> country to immigrate to, and trade with, and work through wars with?
the issue of the actual balance, if exists, between karma, fate and free
will is one of the major theological issues, but by my direct
experience, there's episodes & incidents whose don't happen by chance
nor by scheming (being an Italian, I always quad-check for this....) and
I known that History is a deep linkage of Events; and if Washington
believes that in that balance, Fate prevails or is the most strong
(perhaps thru his exposure to Masonic thinking ?) I don't see why he
should not use Providence for referring to Fate and the Masonic concept
of a Divine Architecture ?
now, for your questions, should be now obvious that I'm not trying to
search if there's a "good" or "bad" design but search the whys and hows
of things happens... History is definitively a vector, and what matters
to me is the course and speed of that vector; you can visualize me as
checking costantly a radar plot & records, scrutinizing past events (the
track logs) and current events (the blips on screen) for glimpsing the
future (estimating the future positions of the tracks)
oh, and now thanks: you have given me an really *excellent* idea for
redesigning the TARDIS interior set... if I get some pounds (not
pounding :D) from BBC I owe you a good dinner (here in Italy, not
London, of course) LOL
a425couple
Jan 16, 2013, 2:30:01 PM1/16/13
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"dott.Piergiorgio" <chied...@ask.me> wrote in message...
for you. (But I will take some joy, for you, that
it developed into an "*excellent* idea", for you.)
I was just going back to,
in 1775 the British North American colonies, of
British citizens, had no official representation in their
national government.
Men like George Washington (and Thomas Jefferson,
Alexander Hamilton, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams,
and James Madison) led a revolt, that by 1891 had
formed a new government, a representative democracy
clearly structured by a written constitution.
I think that was a 'good thing' for them, for US citizens,
and for the world.
Do you?
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