Hillary Wins Big In West Virginia
D. Spencer Hines
Good Show!
On To Kentucky...
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Veritas
J A
Byrd keeps porkbarrelled.
"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message
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Ray O'Hara
"J A" <a...@re.com> wrote in message
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> Half the people in that state owe their jobs to the Democratic machine the
> Byrd keeps porkbarrelled.
>
so what bearing does that have on a clinton/obama contest?
J A
"Ray O'Hara" <mary.p...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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She has the machine behind her. They've been campaigning for her run for
years. Ohio and PA were good examples.
He's had a grassroots campaign.
Ray O'Hara
by rassroots you mean the entire media is backing obama.
the press likes obama because he is a new fresh story, thats all hey care
about.
Scott M. Kozel
>
> Hillary Wins Big In West Virginia
>
> Good Show!
>
> On To Kentucky...
Operation Chaos rolls on ...
Richard Casady
Does the obvious fact that she's a bitch have anything to do with it?
Casady
george
She wins uncontested states and hines goes in to bat for her.
Like hines she's lost it
Ray O'Hara
"george" <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote in message
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obama was only off the ballot in one state , michigan, and there was no
reason he couldn't have gotten on it.
D. Spencer Hines
Eggheads & African-Americans"
<http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/clinton-touts-white-support/>
Well, I reckon so...
Begala got that one right.
And Hillary Rodham Clinton is showing that's a MAJOR WEAKNESS of Barak
Hussein Obama.
He can't seem to attract the support of white, working class, blue-collar,
non-college-educated Americans in families making less than $50,000 per
year -- and Democrats CANNOT win without them.
West Virginia is _The Mountain State_ "Montani semper liberi" - Mountaineers
are always free -- is the State Motto. These are very proud and fiercely
independent people -- many of them of Scotch-Irish Ancestry.
Further, NO Democrat has been able to win the Presidency since 1916 without
winning West Virginia.
And Barak Obama has turned his BACK on West Virginia and West Virginians.
BAD Move.
He has done the same thing with respect to Kentucky and Kentuckians...
And he's going to LOSE there as well.
He'll probably LOSE in Puerto Rico too -- and that's going to raise again,
indeed spotlight, the important question of how much support Obama will be
able to garner from Latinos, Chicanos and Hispanics.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult
James Hogg
<pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>And Hillary Rodham Clinton is showing that's a MAJOR WEAKNESS of Barak
>Hussein Obama.
>And Barak Obama has turned his BACK on West Virginia and West Virginians.
Any particular reason why you always spell Barack's name as Barak?
Hasn't his name ever appeared in the US newspapers?
James
gjan...@nospam.net
>On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:36:15 +0100, "D. Spencer Hines"
><pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>>And Hillary Rodham Clinton is showing that's a MAJOR WEAKNESS of Barak
>>Hussein Obama.
>>And Barak Obama has turned his BACK on West Virginia and West Virginians.
>Any particular reason why you always spell Barack's name as Barak?
It could be a constant typo, but then hines is a troll with years of
internet driveling in his history.
James Hogg
>In <7j6l24992c9qjf5b7...@4ax.com>, on 05/14/2008
> at 09:02 AM, James Hogg <Jas.H...@SPAM.gmail.com> said:
>
>
>
>>On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:36:15 +0100, "D. Spencer Hines"
>><pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>
>>>And Hillary Rodham Clinton is showing that's a MAJOR WEAKNESS of Barak
>>>Hussein Obama.
>
>>>And Barak Obama has turned his BACK on West Virginia and West Virginians.
>
>>Any particular reason why you always spell Barack's name as Barak?
>
>
>It could be a constant typo, but then hines is a troll with years of
>internet driveling in his history.
Why should alumni be allowed to embarrass the Alma Mater as they
approach their seventies and their cognitive abilities decline?
Doesn't Yale have any programmes to help ageing Elis to maintain basic
skills in reading and writing? I propose a refresher course to cover
the following points:
ø Reading comprehension
ø Basic English grammar
(with intensive drill in the use of the objective form of
pronouns after prepositions)
ø Commonly confused words ("then" and "than", "lie" and "lay")
ø The proper and tasteful use of initial capitals
ø Clichés and how to avoid them
(surely it must be possible to teach even wrinklies to write a
word like "gaffe" or "pratfall" without the automatic and
tediously predictable use of "egregious")
James
La N
"James Hogg" <Jas.H...@SPAM.gmail.com> wrote in message
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Why doesn't the US have some kind of No Seniors Left Behind educational
program.
I get the impression that Hines was pushed through the remedial minimal
requirements program in his elementary and high school years. The Yale
thing stymies me. Probably connections.
- nilita
James Hogg
wrote:
It certainly makes you wonder what the rejects (possibly 90% of the
applicants, judging by current figures) looked like.
James
Jack Linthicum
> On Wed, 14 May 2008 13:32:39 GMT, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >"James Hogg" <Jas.Hogg...@SPAM.gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:8jil2491sudqvn7oq...@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:16:09 GMT, gjanf...@nospam.net wrote:
>
> >>>In <7j6l24992c9qjf5b7krrom5vu89mvhk...@4ax.com>, on 05/14/2008
Or who their parents were.
Vincent Brannigan
It was incredibly easier for rich white males with the right connections
to get into Yale in the early 60s
The baby bust was 1944 at the height of WWII
18 years later is the entering class of 1962 (Graduating class of 1966)
only the male half of the population could even apply and sons of alumni
were given almost automatic acceptance
Great article in the Yale magazine outlines the affirmative action for
white christian sons of important alums
http://www.yalealumnimagazine.com/issues/99_12/admissions.html
"Griswold's conservative reformism helped cool the ferment of the
veteran years and revived the view that Yale's purpose was to educate
men who would hold property and power in a society that deferred to
upper-class leadership."
"It is not surprising to find that during Griswold's first five years in
office, Bronx Science sent only seven graduates to Yale, while Phillips
Andover (which was nowhere near as academically selective) sent 275.
Over the same five-year span, the Board of Admissions admitted almost
all of the alumni sons who applied. As Brooks Kelley points out in Yale:
A History, "the generosity of the board may have helped to promote the
belief among alumni that the admission of their sons was a right."
Vince
John Briggs
What about the US Naval Academy?
--
John Briggs
a425couple
> > >> Half the people in that state owe their jobs to the Democratic
> > >> machine the Byrd keeps porkbarrelled.
> > >
> > > so what bearing does that have on a clinton/obama contest?
> >
> > She has the machine behind her. They've been campaigning for
> > her run for years. Ohio and PA were good examples.
> > He's had a grassroots campaign.
>
> by rassroots you mean the entire media is backing obama.
> the press likes obama because he is a new fresh story, thats
> all hey care about.
The "machine" automaticly brings with it a considerable
number of the "grassroots" party activists.
These are the 'boots on the ground' Precinct workers
who can do so much to swing elections.
Obama activated, and drew great help from new
(and of course some old) activists.
The media plays a role (especially when you do not
have the 'activists' willing to do the "door to door" work).
One good volunteer willing to work their precinct is
worth 5 to 10 times the media influence.
If every precinct is covered, you often get 10 - 20%
swing in the vote totals.
Jack Linthicum
> >>news:8jil2491sudqvn7oq...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:16:09 GMT, gjanf...@nospam.net wrote:
>
> >>>> In <7j6l24992c9qjf5b7krrom5vu89mvhk...@4ax.com>, on 05/14/2008
Hines Daddy was in Washington in the years just before, I wonder where
DSH went to high school? Sidwell Friends, St. Albans, Episcopal, a
public high school (horrors), one of the "better" Catholic schools?
D. Spencer Hines
By Dana Milbank
Yale College '90
Wednesday, May 14, 2008
The Washington Post
Customer: "Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm
looking at one right now."
Pet-shop owner: "No, no he's not dead, he's -- he's resting! Remarkable
bird, the Norwegian blue, isn't it, aye? Beautiful plumage!"
-- From "Monty Python's Flying Circus"
11:45 a.m., Melrose Hotel, Foggy Bottom: It's Day 7 of the Clinton Campaign
Death Watch -- a full week since the official arbiter of the Democratic
primary, Tim Russert, declared the campaign over and Barack Obama the
nominee. Hillary Clinton's advisers continue to insist that the candidate's
prospects are very much alive, but the press isn't buying it. Exhibit A:
There are two press buses waiting at the hotel here for Clinton's trip to
her victory rally in West Virginia, but the entire press contingent doesn't
quite fill one. It isn't until the entourage arrives at Dulles Airport that
Clinton aides learn that the second bus is still idling, empty, at the
hotel.
If there is importance in the results of the primary in West Virginia, the
press corps isn't letting on. During the security sweep at Dulles, some play
Hacky Sack with a cigarette carton. Awaiting the candidate on the tarmac,
two guys from CNN toss a football. Aboard the plane, one member of the press
corps entertains his colleagues by flopping down the aisle on his belly,
like a fish.
But Clinton, wearing a salmon-colored jacket and dark sunglasses, is all
smiles as she boards the jet. She hugs and kisses her campaign chairman,
Terry McAuliffe. Still grinning, she helps herself to a cracker with spread
from the snack tray as the plane taxis to the runway. And why shouldn't she
be happy? Within minutes, Clinton has crossed the Blue Ridge and is over the
green hills of West Virginia, home of what she calls the "hardworking
Americans, white Americans." This is Clinton Country.
Customer: "That parrot is definitely deceased, and when I purchased it not
half an hour ago, you assured me that its total lack of movement was due to
it being tired and shagged out following a prolonged squawk."
Pet-shop owner: "Well, he's, he's, ah, probably pining for the fiords."
2:57 p.m., Yeager Airport, Charleston, W.Va.: A steep descent brings
Clinton's plane to Charleston's hilltop airport. After an appropriate wait,
she steps from the plane and pretends to wave to a crowd of supporters; in
fact, she is waving to 10 photographers underneath the airplane's wing. She
pretends to spot an old friend in the crowd, points and gives another wave;
in fact, she is waving at an aide she had been talking with on the plane
minutes earlier.
On the way into town, she makes an unscheduled stop at an upscale farmers
market, but about 30 Clinton supporters, several wearing AFSCME T-shirts and
waving Clinton campaign signs, have
somehow gotten wind of it. Clinton works the crowd, signing autographs and
making small talk ("Is that your dog?"). She makes her way past rows of
geraniums and marigolds.
But even among the blooms, Clinton is reminded of her troubles. She stops at
Ellen's Homemade Ice Cream and orders a scoop of espresso Oreo and a scoop
of butter pecan. "Ooh, that looks good," she says after taking the
confection, then pauses. "Now, let's see. Who's got my money?" asks the
woman who has lent her campaign $11 million to keep it afloat. She laughs.
"Where -- where'd they go, the people with my money?" Finally, two aides
arrive to retire Clinton's dessert debt.
Customer: (Takes parrot from cage, bangs its head on counter, lets it drop
to floor.) "Now, that's what I call a dead parrot."
Pet-shop owner: "No, he's stunned! . . . You stunned him, just as he was
wakin' up! Norwegian blues stun easily, Major."
7:30 p.m., South Hall, Charleston Convention Center: The moment the polls
close, the networks declare Clinton the winner of the primary. This is no
surprise: Exit polls show a 2 to 1 margin for Clinton.
There is no television playing on the red-carpeted floor of the convention
center, where all of 89 Clinton supporters have arrived so far. After a
12-minute delay, somebody thinks to turn on the TV in the hall, and the
small group breaks into a chant: "It's not over."
Or is it? A week ago, Clinton won the Indiana primary by two percentage
points -- and the media decreed that she had lost. Now she's trouncing Obama
by double digits in West Virginia -- and nobody seems to care. This, no
doubt, has something to do with the fact that she is trailing Obama in the
popular vote, states won, pledged delegates and, now, superdelegates. Even
Clinton loyalist James Carville calls Obama the likely nominee.
But Clinton aides press on in their effort to demonstrate life in her
candidacy. At the Charleston victory celebration, McAuliffe charges up to
the lectern. "Hillary Clinton is in this to the end," he tells the crowd.
"She's going to Denver as the nominee!"
Customer: "He's not pining! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has
ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker! He's a stiff! Bereft
of life, he rests in peace! . . . His metabolic processes are now history!
He's off the twig! He's kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal
coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleeding choir invisible! This is
an ex-parrot!"
9:06 p.m., still in the South Hall: The announcer has just introduced "the
next president of the United States." And with the TV now turned off, it
almost seems possible. The confetti guns are loaded and ready. The streamers
hang from the ceiling. And the crowd -- now up to 500, all but about 10 of
them white -- is rapturous as Clinton rebukes the "pundits and the
naysayers."
"There are some who wanted to cut this race short!" Clinton says from the
faux-wood lectern. They boo.
"I am more determined than ever to carry on this campaign," she says. They
cheer.
"There are many who wanted to declare a nominee before the ballots were
counted or even cast," she says. They boo.
"This race isn't over yet," she says. They cheer.
The sound system emits a loud screech of feedback. The confetti cannons
fire.
See? She wasn't dead; she was just pining for the fiords.
Jack Linthicum
> This Is an Ex-Candidate
and here's another, the Democratic Party watches the "funny" parts of
the Republican Southern Strategy wilt away as the conservatives learn
that talking about something ain't doing anything about something.
Democratic Victory May Be a Bellwether
GOP Loses House Seat in Mississippi
By Paul Kane
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 14, 2008; A01
A Democrat won the race for a GOP-held congressional seat in northern
Mississippi yesterday, leaving the once-dominant House Republicans
reeling from their third special-election defeat of the spring.
Travis Childers, a conservative Democrat who serves as Prentiss County
chancery clerk, defeated Southaven Mayor Greg Davis by 54 percent to
46 percent in the race to represent Mississippi's 1st Congressional
District, which both parties considered a potential bellwether for the
fall elections.
Democrats said the results prove that they are poised for another
round of big gains in the November general elections, and they
attacked the Republican strategy of tying Democrats to Sen. Barack
Obama, the front-runner for the party's presidential nomination,
saying it had failed for a second time in 10 days in the Deep South.
Democrat Don Cazayoux won the special election for a GOP-held House
seat in Louisiana on May 3.
"No one could have imagined the tsunami that just crashed on
Republicans in Mississippi," Rep. Chris Van Hollen (Md.), chairman of
the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said in an interview
after the victory. "There is no district that is safe for Republican
candidates."
House Democrats now hold a 236 to 199 majority, up from 203 seats they
controlled two years ago.
Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), chairman of the National Republican
Congressional Committee, sounded an alarm for all GOP candidates "to
take stock of their campaigns and position themselves for challenging
campaigns this fall" while lashing themselves to the presidential
candidacy of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).
"The political environment is such that voters remain pessimistic
about the direction of the country and the Republican Party in
general. . . . Time is short," Cole said in a statement.
Democrats begin the march into the fall elections with an enormous
cash advantage: $44 million for the DCCC to $7 million for its GOP
counterpart as of March 31. And 25 other Republican incumbents have
decided against running for reelection, providing Democrats with more
opportunities to make gains. Seven Democratic incumbents are not
seeking reelection.
The Childers victory was the latest setback suffered by Republicans,
who began the string of defeats in special elections when Democrat
Bill Foster claimed the seat of former House speaker J. Dennis Hastert
(R-Ill.) in March.
President Bush won Mississippi's 1st District by 25 percentage points
four years ago, and Roger Wicker (R) won reelection with 66 percent of
the vote in 2006. Wicker was appointed earlier this year to the Senate
seat vacated by Trent Lott, who quit just one year into his six-year
term to become a corporate lobbyist.
Childers ran a campaign that focused on his support of gun rights and
opposition to abortion. One of his first campaign ads talked about his
mother's recent battle with breast cancer. "Travis Childers still
takes care of his mother," the narrator said, as images of the
candidate hugging his mother ran across the screen.
Faced with ads from Davis and the NRCC pointing out that he had
endorsed Obama, Childers countered with his own ad that proclaimed he
had never even met the senator from Illinois.
As they did in Louisiana, House Democrats demonstrated their
willingness to back a candidate whose ideological positions on key
social issues would put him out of the mainstream of their caucus. The
DCCC poured more than $1.8 million into northern Mississippi in an ad
campaign that included accusations that Davis raised taxes as mayor.
In Louisiana and Mississippi, the NRCC spent $1.8 million on ads
focused largely on pinning Cazayoux and Childers to Obama.
Van Hollen suggested the ads were "desperate tactics" and "did not
gain traction."
Independent analysts said that the anti-Obama campaign put Childers on
the defensive but that it is too early to tell whether such a strategy
will work in the fall.
Nathan Gonzalez, political editor of the Rothenberg Political Report,
said polling data in key eastern portions of the district before the
race showed that Childers's numbers "aren't getting any worse" because
of the ads.
Wicker, who in the fall faces his own election for the remainder of
Lott's term, said that the race turned on "voter fatigue" from the
heated presidential campaigns as well as a complicated ballot system
that has produced four different races for the seat in the past two
months, including primary contests for the general election to be held
in November. "It's just very difficult to get people excited," he
said.
Republicans will now shift into a period of internal review and
possible recriminations.
Some Republicans are clamoring for their leadership and the NRCC to
craft a new strategy, fearing a repeat of the 2006 elections, when
Republicans lost 30 seats that they previously held and Democrats did
not lose a single seat of their own.
"Some people in the conference, to some extent, have been complacent
to waking up to how badly the brand was damaged in 2006," Rep. Jeb
Hensarling (R-Tex.), a leader of a conservative coalition, said in a
recent interview.
This week, House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) unveiled a
new campaign theme that directly embraced Obama's "change" message by
establishing "change you deserve" as the new mantra for the House
Republican Conference.
The Mississippi result "should serve as a wake-up call to Republican
candidates nationwide," Boehner said in a statement last night. "As
I've said before, this is a change election, and if we want Americans
to vote for us, we have to convince them that we can fix Washington."
and
May 13, 2008 7:44
Making More Assumptions About Evangelicals. And Your Brain.
Posted by Ana Marie Cox
As reporters seek to make sense of -- and create new narratives about
-- this election cycle, I imagine there will be more stories like this
one: "Young, evangelical ... for Obama?"
The thing is, that question mark is well-deserved. As I wrote a couple
of weeks ago, researchers say that the crack-up of the Christian Right
does not mean a pendulum swing from right to left, it simply means,
well, a crack-up. The young evangelicals in the story seem to have a
better sense of this than the headline writer:
"I think a lot of Christians are having trouble getting behind
everything the Republicans stand for... It's not about liberal or
conservative, or Democrats or Republicans....I don't think it's a new
evangelical left. ... There's a new evangelical stuck-in-the-middle."
"Most of us would never blindly follow the old Christian Right
anymore. James Dobson has nothing to do with us. A lot of us are
taking apart the issues, and thinking, 'OK, well, [none of the
candidates] fits what I'm looking for exactly.' But if you're going to
vote, you've got to take your pros with your cons."
"Whither the religious left?" has been a question that's generated a
lot of interesting writing in the past few years, but the answer is
not with evangelicals.
In other Pew Forum-related news, David Brooks' column today is a
truncated version of his talk from Key West on neuropsychology and
neurobiology; it restates as well an assertion that troubled me back
in Florida. Today, he writes:
In their arguments with Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins,
the faithful have been defending the existence of God. That was the
easy debate. The real challenge is going to come from people who feel
the existence of the sacred, but who think that particular religions
are just cultural artifacts built on top of universal human traits.
It’s going to come from scientists whose beliefs overlap a bit with
Buddhism.
In his earlier talk, Brooks amplified the idea that neuroscientists
will present a "challenge to faith" a bit, and seemed -- to my ears --
to say that neuroscientists were dismissive of faith. My liberal-
stereotyping-alarm went off then; the "religious left" is hard to
find, it is not hard at all to find a religious leftist. Or even a
religious scientist...who isn't a leftist! The idea that neuroscience
is reducible to "scientists whose beliefs overlap a bit with Buddhism"
-- they're not like you and me! they're somehow foreign! -- seemed of
a piece with other forms of conservative anti-science propaganda.
But when I asked him about stereotypes that seemed to be embedded in
his analysis, Brooks told me I was reading too much into his comment.
And that I shouldn't generalize.
J A
"Richard Casady" <richar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Not at all, although the fact that she's an incompetent lying bitch may...
>
> Casady
Ray O'Hara
> Not at all, although the fact that she's an incompetent lying bitch may...
ironically you love the proven liar and incompetent fool bush.
J A
What a moron you are.
Anytime I mention Bush in a post, it's in a negative context.
D. Spencer Hines
and still win the Presidency since Woodrow Wilson in 1916.
This is BAD NEWS for Obama -- and he can't cover it with a little
tap-dancing and strutting in Missouri and Michigan, then trotting out the
smiling Breck Girl, John Edwards, for an endorsement in Grand Rapids.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
J A
Well, nobody in 1999 would have thought an obvious no talent alcoholic, drug
abusing, dfraft dodging dullard like George Bush could have been nominated,
much less
elected, either.
So if bad surprises can occur with ensuing terrible results, then maybe good
surprises can occur with a talented, solidly educated, high quality man.
I guess we'll just have and see, won't we...
gjan...@nospam.net
She learned from bush and the republicans.
How do you feel about all the republicans being thrown out of office in
November? Its the handwriting on the wall kid. Read it.
>>
>> Casady
J A
<gjan...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:vTMWj.11431$jk1.777@trndny05...
Not too bright, are you, dimwit.
gjan...@nospam.net
Son, stop living the right wign world of denial. The GOP is losing every
race it enters, and has been for months. John Mcbush will end the GOP
rein; the people are tried of the stupidity, the attacks on their well
being and the economy they live in, and they are tried of bush' war for
nothing that Mcbush wants to grow for another 100 years -- in spite of fat
that we have no Wmd's, and 4000 dead for nothing with nothing to show for
it.
J A
<gjan...@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:FwNWj.16255$6D1.14437@trndny02...
Trol, learn to read, get a brain. I don't support Bush or the Corupticans.
gjan...@nospam.net
Lets see asshole JA; you say you don't support bush -->But you deleted my
text on the bush and GOP.
Case closed. You're another right wign kook idiot without a clue. Now
grow up.
Here is what you deleted -- in your attempt to lie;
"Son, stop living the right wign world of denial. The GOP is losing every
race it enters, and has been for months. John Mcbush will end the GOP
rein; the people are tried of the stupidity, the attacks on their well
being and the economy they live in, and they are tried of bush's war for
nothing that Mcbush wants to grow for another 100 years -- in spite of
fact that we have no Wmd's, and 4000 dead for nothing with nothing to show
for it."
In <qrednSzOmcliO7bV...@earthlink.com>, on 05/14/2008
J A
<gjan...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:Q0OWj.1067$ll1.665@trndny06...
>
> Lets see asshole JA;
You're a troll asshole punk.
gjan...@nospam.net
You proved that you are right wing kook son. After chiding you for
deleting my words and whining that you are not bush lover, you turned
around in the next post and did the same thing. You lost sonny. You are
an idiot.
Here is what you snipped little boy:
Lets see asshole JA; you say you don't support bush -->But you deleted my
text on the bush and GOP.
Case closed. You're another right wign kook idiot without a clue. Now
grow up.
Here is what you deleted -- in your attempt to lie;
"Son, stop living the right wign world of denial. The GOP is losing every
race it enters, and has been for months. John Mcbush will end the GOP
rein; the people are tried of the stupidity, the attacks on their well
being and the economy they live in, and they are tried of bush's war for
nothing that Mcbush wants to grow for another 100 years -- in spite of
fact that we have no Wmd's, and 4000 dead for nothing with nothing to show
for it."
In <xaydnbqgAN4SLLbV...@earthlink.com>, on 05/14/2008
Zomby...@cox.net
Saying that Hillary in an incompetent lying bitch is nothing other
then an indictment against Hillary.
--
"Before all else, be armed" -- Machiavelli
Zomby...@cox.net
<pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>Paul Begala, Key Staffer & Hillary Supporter: "We Can't Win With Just
>Eggheads & African-Americans"
>
><http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/clinton-touts-white-support/>
>
>Well, I reckon so...
>
>Begala got that one right.
>
>And Hillary Rodham Clinton is showing that's a MAJOR WEAKNESS of Barak
>Hussein Obama.
>
>He can't seem to attract the support of white, working class, blue-collar,
>non-college-educated Americans in families making less than $50,000 per
>year -- and Democrats CANNOT win without them.
>
So I guess that basically means he ain't getting through to the dumb
asses. Figures, they're a tough nut to crack.
>
>West Virginia is _The Mountain State_ "Montani semper liberi" - Mountaineers
>are always free -- is the State Motto. These are very proud and fiercely
>independent people -- many of them of Scotch-Irish Ancestry.
>
>Further, NO Democrat has been able to win the Presidency since 1916 without
>winning West Virginia.
>
There is always the infamous first time.
>
>And Barak Obama has turned his BACK on West Virginia and West Virginians.
>
Turn is back, or simply unable to connect with illiterate country
bumpkins. Awful lot of "DC'ers in West Virginia. I wonder if they
did an analysis of the vote based on native West Virginian, or Byrd
Pork-barrel relocated West Virginians?
>
>BAD Move.
>
Ignoring any part of the electorate is a bad move, but there will be
always those that you simply cannot connect with. In West Virginia I
wonder how much Race came into play.
>
>He has done the same thing with respect to Kentucky and Kentuckians...
>
Again, no-shoe wearing Hillbilly's might not just be able to grasp the
message.
>
>And he's going to LOSE there as well.
>
Good chance since most are incapable of truly understanding all the
issues.
>
>He'll probably LOSE in Puerto Rico too -- and that's going to raise again,
>indeed spotlight, the important question of how much support Obama will be
>able to garner from Latinos, Chicanos and Hispanics.
>
Don't know about that one, I'll be interested how it shakes out. Never
thought much about how Puerto Rico Votes, or why they even have a say
in the matter. Time for them to apply for Statehood, or go their
separate way. Personally I could care less how that issue shakes out
either way.
Zomby...@cox.net
Well jeez Louise let's just go ahead and enforce the "Chicago Manual
of Style" on Usenet posts. Tis a weak mind that can only come up with
one way to spell a word. -- MT or SC
Zomby...@cox.net
wrote:
Why do certain people look at a simple Usenet post as if it was a
dissertation for credit or something. While there are those who
attempt to write a novel in their posts, most get their basic premise
across without consulting a writing style guide every time.
BTW -- How large is your editorial staff?
La N
<Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:6tho24lqshdnj9dk5...@4ax.com...
Let's see. One minute. .... Look, Wolfie, I'll have my people call your
people ...
- nilita
Zomby...@cox.net
<fir...@firelaw.us> wrote:
<Snip>
>
>"Griswold's conservative reformism helped cool the ferment of the
>veteran years and revived the view that Yale's purpose was to educate
>men who would hold property and power in a society that deferred to
>upper-class leadership."
>
Our country was founded by those of the upper-classes with education &
leadership. One but only look at our country now when we rely on any
sick sumofabitch regardless of their education of leadership ability.
There hasn't been a "True" Leader in this country for quite a while,
member of the "Upper Class" or not.
>
>"It is not surprising to find that during Griswold's first five years in
>office, Bronx Science sent only seven graduates to Yale, while Phillips
>Andover (which was nowhere near as academically selective) sent 275.
>Over the same five-year span, the Board of Admissions admitted almost
>all of the alumni sons who applied. As Brooks Kelley points out in Yale:
>A History, "the generosity of the board may have helped to promote the
>belief among alumni that the admission of their sons was a right."
>
Given the amounts of money spent during their time there, and usually
donated via alumni contributions afterwards, perhaps the concept of
legacy's isn't all that bad. However, as with all things at least a
minimum of standards must be applied.
You are aware what they call the guy/gal that graduates last in their
class at medical school aren't you? Same concept.
Zomby...@cox.net
<john.b...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
<snip>
>What about the US Naval Academy?
>
What about it, or any other US Military Academy? Who better to be
Officers in our Military then the Sons & Daughters of former Officers
who are more then aware of the lifestyle & challenges it can present.
Personally I feel that anyone who accepts a position at one of our
Military Academy's better damn well be ready & prepared to make a
full-career out of the investment in them. Be it on Active Duty, the
Reserves, or Guard.
If you aren't willing to make a lifetime commitment of service to your
country, why on earth should you get one of the best "Free" educations
provided to you on a silver platter. Personally I think the Academies
place to much priority on Athletic prowess over commitment to service.
La N
<Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:hcio241uiqnhiko9m...@4ax.com...
But, isn't it wonderful, Wolfie, that you live in a country where people
have *choices*?
- nilita
Zomby...@cox.net
<pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>This Is an Ex-Candidate
>
>By Dana Milbank
>Yale College '90
>
>Wednesday, May 14, 2008
>The Washington Post
>
>Customer: "Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm
>looking at one right now."
>
>Pet-shop owner: "No, no he's not dead, he's -- he's resting! Remarkable
>bird, the Norwegian blue, isn't it, aye? Beautiful plumage!"
>
>-- From "Monty Python's Flying Circus"
>
>11:45 a.m., Melrose Hotel, Foggy Bottom: It's Day 7 of the Clinton Campaign
>Death Watch -- a full week since the official arbiter of the Democratic
>primary, Tim Russert, declared the campaign over and Barack Obama the
>nominee. Hillary Clinton's advisers continue to insist that the candidate's
>prospects are very much alive, but the press isn't buying it. Exhibit A:
>There are two press buses waiting at the hotel here for Clinton's trip to
>her victory rally in West Virginia, but the entire press contingent doesn't
>quite fill one. It isn't until the entourage arrives at Dulles Airport that
>Clinton aides learn that the second bus is still idling, empty, at the
>hotel.
>
Of course her prospects are still alive, it is just her brain &
ideology that is dead.
>
>If there is importance in the results of the primary in West Virginia, the
>press corps isn't letting on. During the security sweep at Dulles, some play
>Hacky Sack with a cigarette carton. Awaiting the candidate on the tarmac,
>two guys from CNN toss a football. Aboard the plane, one member of the press
>corps entertains his colleagues by flopping down the aisle on his belly,
>like a fish.
>
The importance of the results of the West Virginia primary is of no
real consequence to anyone other then West Virginians, many of whom
just like Hillary aren't even natives of the state or in touch with
the issues that face those who are. Most are beholding to the largess
that their long-serving representative brought home to roost along
with many a DC insider.
>
>But Clinton, wearing a salmon-colored jacket and dark sunglasses, is all
>smiles as she boards the jet. She hugs and kisses her campaign chairman,
>Terry McAuliffe. Still grinning, she helps herself to a cracker with spread
>from the snack tray as the plane taxis to the runway. And why shouldn't she
>be happy? Within minutes, Clinton has crossed the Blue Ridge and is over the
>green hills of West Virginia, home of what she calls the "hardworking
>Americans, white Americans." This is Clinton Country.
>
Gee go figure, Hillary helping herself to something on an Airplane. A
press report concerning itself with what Hillary is wearing is fit for
a fashion magazine, not National Press coverage. If the best they can
say about her is she has a wide variety of Pant Suits in different
colors, that in & of itself says nothing.
>
Ewww, hard working "White Americans" huh. You actually think Hillary
gives a rats ass about any hard working American regardless of their
skin tone? She hasn't done a "Hard Day's Work" in her entire life
unless you count keeping her old man away from fat chicks with open
mouths. Hell she wasn't even really all that good at that.
Any person that can't even keep their spouse from straying is going to
have one helluva hard time keeping a country from straying. Actually
more to the point getting a country that has strayed to once again be
faithful to that which originally made it great.
I was she was at least as impressed with the "Average" American as she
seems to be of herself.
La N
<Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:kdjo249a02rg8pr1k...@4ax.com...
> >
> Any person that can't even keep their spouse from straying
Oh, give me an f*ing break. I doubt that any person has control 100 per
cent of the time over what their partner may or may not do. The fact that
"cheating" occurs in a lot - if not, most - marriages is testimony to that.
And, last time I looked, most people don't slap GPS systems on their spouses
to track their every move.
You just have to say you hate Hillary. You don't have to make lameass
statements like that.
Well, yes, you do! You're Wolfie, the Contrarian!
- nilita
gjan...@nospam.net
How come you are so afraid of women there zomby?
Someone bob you?
In <kdjo249a02rg8pr1k...@4ax.com>, on 05/15/2008
Richard Casady
>Personally I think the Academies
>place to much priority on Athletic prowess over commitment to service.
True enough. The Air Force might not be as bad, judging by their
football teams.
Casady
D. Spencer Hines
J A
<gjan...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:MCUWj.3714$xr1.651@trndny04...
Sorry son, but you're a troll.
You're a halfwit asshole who can't even read and understand posts.
You've changed your posting name several times in your trolling.
gjan...@nospam.net
You're the toll here. You prove it everytime you snip my words and drivel
about something else. So once for you asshole:
"Lets see asshole JA; you say you don't support bush -->But you deleted
my text on the bush and GOP.
Case closed. You're another right wign kook idiot without a clue. Now
grow up.
Here is what you deleted -- in your attempt to lie;
"Son, stop living the right wign world of denial. The GOP is losing every
race it enters, and has been for months. John Mcbush will end the GOP
rein; the people are tried of the stupidity, the attacks on their well
being and the economy they live in, and they are tried of bush's war for
nothing that Mcbush wants to grow for another 100 years -- in spite of
fact that we have no Wmd's, and 4000 dead for nothing with nothing to show
for it."
In <ctedncN9afivI7HV...@earthlink.com>, on 05/15/2008
J A
<gjan...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:IY3Xj.1788$i51.191@trndny09...
Wrong again, asshole.
Read the thread, if you're capable, troll.
Better yet, just disappear, asshole.
Zomby...@cox.net
wrote:
<snip>
>>>
>>>I get the impression that Hines was pushed through the remedial minimal
>>>requirements program in his elementary and high school years. The Yale
>>>thing stymies me. Probably connections.
>>>
>> Why do certain people look at a simple Usenet post as if it was a
>> dissertation for credit or something. While there are those who
>> attempt to write a novel in their posts, most get their basic premise
>> across without consulting a writing style guide every time.
>>
>> BTW -- How large is your editorial staff?
>> --
>
>Let's see. One minute. .... Look, Wolfie, I'll have my people call your
>people ...
>
Sorry, I had to let my people go.
Zomby...@cox.net
wrote:
>
We only say that. Some have absolutely no choice at all. About the
only Equality thing we got going is making everyone as equally poor &
stupid.
Zomby...@cox.net
wrote:
>
><Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:kdjo249a02rg8pr1k...@4ax.com...
>> >
>> Any person that can't even keep their spouse from straying
>
>Oh, give me an f*ing break. I doubt that any person has control 100 per
>cent of the time over what their partner may or may not do. The fact that
>"cheating" occurs in a lot - if not, most - marriages is testimony to that.
>And, last time I looked, most people don't slap GPS systems on their spouses
>to track their every move.
>
If you are getting what you need at home, you don't go a knockin.
>You just have to say you hate Hillary. You don't have to make lameass
>statements like that.
>
Not lameass, if one cannot keep their spouse from straying, how can
one keep an entire country from doing so. She could have at least
left the Bastard. She reminds me of women who suffer through physical
abuse, her's was just emotional.
>
>Well, yes, you do! You're Wolfie, the Contrarian!
>
>- nilita
>
Ray O'Hara
<gjan...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:Q0OWj.1067$ll1.665@trndny06...
>
> Lets see asshole JA; you say you don't support bush -->But you deleted my
> text on the bush and GOP.
>
> Case closed. You're another right wign kook idiot without a clue. Now
> grow up.
>
>
> Here is what you deleted -- in your attempt to lie;
>
> "Son, stop living the right wign world of denial. The GOP is losing every
> race it enters, and has been for months. John Mcbush will end the GOP
> rein; the people are tried of the stupidity, the attacks on their well
> being and the economy they live in, and they are tried of bush's war for
> nothing that Mcbush wants to grow for another 100 years -- in spite of
> fact that we have no Wmd's, and 4000 dead for nothing with nothing to show
> for it."
>
JA claims he hates bush yet he always argues against the dems ideas.
Ray O'Hara
<Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
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just being a good athelete won't get you in but they do want healthy people
who can stand the physical rigors of military service.
west point and annapolis get some of americas best.
a co-worker of mine son went to west point, he also had full scholarship
offers to duke and stanford and yeah he was a track star too.
Ray O'Hara
<Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eftp24lv3e89t6ck3...@4ax.com...
i'm sure they left running and screaming from your idiocy.
gjan...@nospam.net
Once again for the right wing kook JA -->who not stoip driveling"
"You're the toll here [JA]. You prove it everytime you snip my words and
drivel about something else. So once again for you asshole:
"Lets see asshole JA; you say you don't support bush -->But you deleted
my text on the bush and GOP.
Case closed. You're another right wign kook idiot without a clue. Now
grow up.
Here is what you deleted -- in your attempt to lie;
"Son, stop living the right wign world of denial. The GOP is losing every
race it enters, and has been for months. John Mcbush will end the GOP
rein; the people are tried of the stupidity, the attacks on their well
being and the economy they live in, and they are tried of bush's war for
nothing that Mcbush wants to grow for another 100 years -- in spite of
fact that we have no Wmd's, and 4000 dead for nothing with nothing to show
for it."
In <3uKdnaknCP_3T7HV...@earthlink.com>, on 05/15/2008
Wiley Post
Funny ... You don't look Jewish
(rim.shot)
D. Spencer Hines
DSH
"Vincent Brannigan" <fir...@firelaw.us> wrote in message
news:4_iXj.49$ah.12@trnddc06...
>> there is a reason its called the supremacy clause.
>>
>> its quite clear.* anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to
>> the contrary notwithstanding. *
>>
>> anything means everything, that means all federal law trump every state's
>> law. [sop]
>
> Only Valid federal laws
> one of the primary reasons a law is declared unconstitutional is that it
> usurps a state constitutional power
>
> Vince
J A
"Ray O'Hara" <mary.p...@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:sfKdnTVbM41GrbDV...@rcn.net...
>>
>
> JA claims he hates bush yet he always argues against the dems ideas.
Could you be the gjan...@nospam.net troll?? By the way, who is
mary.p...@rcn.com ??
In any case, anyone with intelligence, and who cares about the welfare of
the country, is bound to reject Bush, *and* reject many of the dysfunctional
"ideas" that the Democratic party has adopted, which made Bush possible.
For instance, people should be able to back universal medical insurance,
without being counted in with gay marriage supporters.
Liberal deomcrats created cultural refugees who would up fueling christian
fundamentalism, gave Rove lots of tools, and made the Bush regime possible.
J A
<gjan...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:E6dXj.5319$xr1.1088@trndny04...
>
Son, You been posting in here under several different names.
Son, you contribute nothing becasue you are an asshole and a troll, and are
incapable being anything other than that.
You said you've been posting here for years.
But the name you're hiding behind has over 140 posts, but in use for just
one mnonth.
What name have you been posting under previously before you started using
all these phony names, son?
gjan...@nospam.net
No she is not asshole. She just see's your for the same right wing kook
idiot that Isaid you are.
Now run along and play somewher else jerkoff.
In <ju-dnbusg-HrmbPV...@earthlink.com>, on 05/16/2008
gjan...@nospam.net
Run along junior. You lost this game. You lost when you tried to claim
that you are not a right wign kook, just like I said. You have been trying
to change the subject and driveling ever since.
Now go play asshole somewhere else.
In <ju-dnbWsg-HhmbPV...@earthlink.com>, on 05/16/2008
J A
<gjan...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:vjpXj.495$H91.480@trndny09...
>
Son, you keep changing names and spewing worthless crap.
Your a worthless flake and a troll with nothing to contribute.
You said you've been posting here for years.
But the name you're hiding behind has over 140 posts, but in use for just
one month.
J A
<gjan...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:EjpXj.499$H91.125@trndny09...
Asshole, you keep changing names and spewing worthless crap.
Your a worthless flake and a troll with nothing to contribute.
You said you've been posting here for years.
But the name you're hiding behind has over 140 posts, but in use for just
one month.
What name have you been posting under previously before you started using
all these phony names, asshole?
Fred J. McCall
:On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:29:21 +0100, "John Briggs"
:<john.b...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
:
:<snip>
:>What about the US Naval Academy?
:>
:What about it, or any other US Military Academy?
:
What about it, indeed? What's the point here?
:
:Who better to be
:Officers in our Military then the Sons & Daughters of former Officers
:who are more then aware of the lifestyle & challenges it can present.
:
There is no good evidence that military skills run in families, so
what's your point? There's no reason to believe that the children of
officers have the least clue about the military.
:
:Personally I feel that anyone who accepts a position at one of our
:Military Academy's better damn well be ready & prepared to make a
:full-career out of the investment in them. Be it on Active Duty, the
:Reserves, or Guard.
:
Did *YOU* know what you wanted to do with the rest of your life at the
ripe old age of 18? Was your view still the same when you were 24?
How about 34?
:
:If you aren't willing to make a lifetime commitment of service to your
:country, why on earth should you get one of the best "Free" educations
:provided to you on a silver platter.
:
You really have no clue at all what it takes to get into a military
academy, do you? You really have no clue at all what it takes to get
through a military academy, do you? You're aware that a *reasonable*
(vice the life enslavement you seem to favour) service term is
required, aren't you?
Some 'silver platter'.
:
:Personally I think the Academies
:place to much priority on Athletic prowess over commitment to service.
:
Personally I think you're out of your flipping mind on this one...
--
"I've put men in the ground in foreign soil so you can sleep
at night, but you wouldn't know anything about that, would
you, kid?"
-- Detective Mac Taylor, "CSI: NY"
Zomby...@cox.net
<fmc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Zomby...@cox.net wrote:
>
>:On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:29:21 +0100, "John Briggs"
>:<john.b...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>:
>:<snip>
>:>What about the US Naval Academy?
>:>
>:What about it, or any other US Military Academy?
>:
How should I know? That is why I asked the question.
>
>What about it, indeed? What's the point here?
>
>:
>:Who better to be
>:Officers in our Military then the Sons & Daughters of former Officers
>:who are more then aware of the lifestyle & challenges it can present.
>:
>
>There is no good evidence that military skills run in families, so
>what's your point? There's no reason to believe that the children of
>officers have the least clue about the military.
>
Actually there is.
>:
>:Personally I feel that anyone who accepts a position at one of our
>:Military Academy's better damn well be ready & prepared to make a
>:full-career out of the investment in them. Be it on Active Duty, the
>:Reserves, or Guard.
>:
>
>Did *YOU* know what you wanted to do with the rest of your life at the
>ripe old age of 18? Was your view still the same when you were 24?
>How about 34?
>
Yup, I've always wanted to be a Titty Bar owner.
>:
>:If you aren't willing to make a lifetime commitment of service to your
>:country, why on earth should you get one of the best "Free" educations
>:provided to you on a silver platter.
>:
>
>You really have no clue at all what it takes to get into a military
>academy, do you? You really have no clue at all what it takes to get
>through a military academy, do you? You're aware that a *reasonable*
>(vice the life enslavement you seem to favour) service term is
>required, aren't you?
>
More then just a clue, but of course you have not a clue to whom you
are speaking.
>Some 'silver platter'.
>
>:
>:Personally I think the Academies
>:place to much priority on Athletic prowess over commitment to service.
>
>Personally I think you're out of your flipping mind on this one...
>
Everyone is allowed an opinion.
Zomby...@cox.net
Healthy yes, but not all Services have rigors, nor do all of the jobs
in all of the Branches of the Service. Not everybody is a Seal.
Zomby...@cox.net
Perhaps because we don't need any more damn "ideas" we need some
freakin action. To think that the Dems are any better (or worse) then
the Reps makes the arguer a fool of the first degree. They are simple
two sides of the same coin with the same objective -- looking out for
themselves.
Zomby...@cox.net
Shame you do not know from which you speak, but it made a half-ass
decent sound bite. Now go get your style guide prior to your next
post.
Zomby...@cox.net
wrote:
Neither did Sammy Davis.
>(rim.shot)
D. Spencer Hines
DSH
<Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:h0qs2496u96nin8da...@4ax.com...
>
> However, there is a very fine balance between dissent and letting the
> enemy know that he is at least winning the hearts & minds of the
> non-combatants. Had it not been for the American Press constantly
> saying "All is lost in Vietnam", I personally think they would have
> headed to the Peace table a lot sooner. They might have also thought
> twice about invading the South fearing we might comeback. However,
> given the state of American opinion, they knew they were free to do as
> they pleased without any response from us.
D. Spencer Hines
DSH
> "La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:mXtXj.3101$KB3.1066@edtnps91...
>Is the US headed towards controlling and/or punishing *contrarian*
>positions?
bnok...@nospam.net
Really? Is that why the repuks vote for war and more war, and always
against help for the common people!
You need to stop your right wign driveling here jerkoff. We all know what
the republican party is about -- and you can't lie the history away.
Vince Brannigan
nonsense
What makes the United States a great Historical experiment is that it is
a free country. Our belief is that that freedom gives us a strength that
cannot be matched by cadres of loyalist clutching their little red books
and fervently chanting that there is no dissent from the sublime thought
of the leader.
Authoritarians know that suppressing dissent allows them to present a
unified face to the world. But that unified face is worthless. Remember
how we laugh at the "spontaneous demonstrations" in authoritarian
countries?
It's Dolchstoss time for the Iraq war fans. Watch them whine and scream
that exposing their idiocy "helps" the other side.
Vince
D. Spencer Hines
Lack of Unity in the Face of our Enemies.
A good deal of the behavior we see today on the Left would have been
considered as traitorous during World War II.
But we have our Freedoms of Speech, Assembly and of the Press -- and I am in
no way suggesting they should be circumscribed or curtailed.
Indeed Let A Thousand Flowers Bloom...
And Many Will Wilt.
For one of the unanticipated benefits of Free Speech is that it gives the
loons and naïfs PLENTY of rope and TIME to hang themselves -- just as we see
is now happening to Obama, whose Wizard of Oz-Sportin' Life act behind a
curtain of simpering, halting, yet braggadocious demagoguery is now being
slowly stripped away.
Sunshine Is Indeed The Best Disinfectant.
We see the same thing happening to our Loon Academics of the Left, such as
Brannigan and Gans.
And How Sweet It Is To Watch!
Deeeeelightful!
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult
Jack Linthicum
> And that's the danger we face today...
>
> Lack of Unity in the Face of our Enemies.
>
> A good deal of the behavior we see today on the Left would have been
> considered as traitorous during World War II.
>
> But we have our Freedoms of Speech, Assembly and of the Press -- and I am in
> no way suggesting they should be circumscribed or curtailed.
>
> Indeed Let A Thousand Flowers Bloom...
>
> And Many Will Wilt.
>
> For one of the unanticipated benefits of Free Speech is that it gives the
> loons and naïfs PLENTY of rope and TIME to hang themselves -- just as we see
> is now happening to Obama, whose Wizard of Oz-Sportin' Life act behind a
> curtain of simpering, halting, yet braggadocious demagoguery is now being
> slowly stripped away.
>
> Sunshine Is Indeed The Best Disinfectant.
>
> We see the same thing happening to our Loon Academics of the Left, such as
> Brannigan and Gans.
>
> And How Sweet It Is To Watch!
>
> Deeeeelightful!
>
> DSH
>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>
> Deus Vult
>
>
> news:h0qs2496u96nin8da...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > However, there is a very fine balance between dissent and letting the
> > enemy know that he is at least winning the hearts & minds of the
> > non-combatants. Had it not been for the American Press constantly
> > saying "All is lost in Vietnam", I personally think they would have
> > headed to the Peace table a lot sooner. They might have also thought
> > twice about invading the South fearing we might comeback. However,
> > given the state of American opinion, they knew they were free to do as
> > they pleased without any response from us.
Yes, imagine what an uproar if a Republican or Democrat had outed an
American secret agent during WWII? Or publicly announced the violation
of the Geneva conventions? Or sanctioned torture?
D. Spencer Hines
Lack of Unity in the Face of our Enemies.
A good deal of the behavior we see today on the Left would have been
considered as traitorous during World War II...
Such as the dedicated efforts by many on the Left to ensure an American
defeat in Iraq, for their own purely political purposes, by pushing for a
panicky, premature and precipitous pullout from Iraq. All the while
mouthing empty and jejune inanities such as -- "I support the troops but not
the war."
However, we have our justly precious Freedoms of Speech, Assembly and of the
Press -- and I am in no way suggesting they should be circumscribed or
curtailed.
Indeed Let A Thousand Flowers Bloom...
And Many Will Wilt.
For one of the unanticipated benefits of Free Speech is that it gives the
loons and naïfs PLENTY of rope and TIME to hang themselves -- just as we see
is now happening to Obama, whose Wizard of Oz-Sportin' Life act behind a
curtain of simpering, halting, yet braggadocious demagoguery is being slowly
stripped away.
Sunshine Is Indeed The Best Disinfectant.
We see the same thing happening to our Loon Academics of the Left, such as
Brannigan and Gans.
And How Sweet It Is To Watch!
Deeeeelightful!
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult
<Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
William Black
"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message
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> A good deal of the behavior we see today on the Left would have been
> considered as traitorous during World War II...
Suspension of the Geneva Conventions
Torture of suspects
Listening to domestic phone calls without a court order
Yep, for once you're right...
Except that it's not a war...
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
Zomby...@cox.net
<pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>No, of course not.
>
Absolutely -- say you are not in favor of Hillary's ideas, opinions &
policies and you are a sexist. Say the same of Obama and you're a
racist. Of McCain your either a Neo-Nazi or ageist (take your pick).
Regardless of your view, if you articulate it in public be prepared to
be critiqued to death by those who desire group stinkin thinkin.
Zomby...@cox.net
<fir...@verizon.net> wrote:
>D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>> And that's the danger we face today.
>>
>> DSH
>>
>> <Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:h0qs2496u96nin8da...@4ax.com...
>>> However, there is a very fine balance between dissent and letting the
>>> enemy know that he is at least winning the hearts & minds of the
>>> non-combatants. Had it not been for the American Press constantly
>>> saying "All is lost in Vietnam", I personally think they would have
>>> headed to the Peace table a lot sooner. They might have also thought
>>> twice about invading the South fearing we might comeback. However,
>>> given the state of American opinion, they knew they were free to do as
>>> they pleased without any response from us.
>>
>>
>
>nonsense
>
>What makes the United States a great Historical experiment is that it is
>a free country. Our belief is that that freedom gives us a strength that
>cannot be matched by cadres of loyalist clutching their little red books
>and fervently chanting that there is no dissent from the sublime thought
>of the leader.
>
What is "Free" jackass? Ever try to "freely" walk into an Airport,
freely buy a firearm, freely earn a living by the fruits of your own
labors? Nothing is freakin free. Everything we have (and then lost)
was paid for by the bloods of those willing to stand up and fight for
what they believe, or at least answer the call of duty from their
country.
>
>Authoritarians know that suppressing dissent allows them to present a
>unified face to the world. But that unified face is worthless. Remember
>how we laugh at the "spontaneous demonstrations" in authoritarian
>countries?
>
It isn't about being "Authoritarian", it is about being
"Participative" -- all to many people simply do not participate.
>
>It's Dolchstoss time for the Iraq war fans. Watch them whine and scream
>that exposing their idiocy "helps" the other side.
>
Nobody is a freakin "fan" of War, any war. People, children & small
furry animals die in it. It is not a good thing for the environment
as well. Therefore it must be (when engaged in) fought in the most
fierce, vigorous, and brutal of manners to bring it to a swift closer
with nothing other then total & complete victory. Anyone engaging in
warfare without the desire & will to win is simply pissing in the
wind.
J A
"Jack Linthicum" <jackli...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Nicely said.
Or imagine if they had let the enemy leadership easily escape a trap like
Tora Bora?
J A
"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message
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> And that's the danger we face today...
>
> Lack of Unity in the Face of our Enemies.
There's some past truth in that, with reference to countries like Nazi
Germany, the Japanese, the SU..
This present day threat that people like you are in a panic about is
analogous to a a couple wasps that got into the house and have to be found
and swatted, versus a danger that the house will be destroyed.
Your level of fear is leading to bad decsions, which in turn are are
damaging the country and giving aid to the enemy.
If we had good leaders, Tora Bora would have been the end of the road for
bin Laden and assts.
> A good deal of the behavior we see today on the Left would have been
> considered as traitorous during World War II...
Be specific and tell us what you mean. Give some examples.
Vincent Brannigan
> And that's the danger we face today...
>
> Lack of Unity in the Face of our Enemies.
>
you must stand behind the Leader
all dissent is treason
> A good deal of the behavior we see today on the Left would have been
> considered as traitorous during World War II.
Especially in Nazi gGrmany
>
> But we have our Freedoms of Speech, Assembly and of the Press -- and I am in
> no way suggesting they should be circumscribed or curtailed.
>
> Indeed Let A Thousand Flowers Bloom...
>
> And Many Will Wilt.
>
> For one of the unanticipated benefits of Free Speech is that it gives the
> loons and naïfs PLENTY of rope and TIME to hang themselves -- just as we see
> is now happening to Obama, whose Wizard of Oz-Sportin' Life act behind a
> curtain of simpering, halting, yet braggadocious demagoguery is now being
> slowly stripped away.
>
> Sunshine Is Indeed The Best Disinfectant.
>
> We see the same thing happening to our Loon Academics of the Left, such as
> Brannigan and Gans.
>
> And How Sweet It Is To Watch!
>
> Deeeeelightful!
>
> DSH
>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>
> Deus Vult
There were no WMDs in Iraq
Thousands of Americans have died to put Shiite fundamentalists into
power in Iraq
All of you who sucked up to dubya and his lunacy will now go running for
cover and blame someone anyone else
its dolchstoss time in the city
Vince
D. Spencer Hines
No one has said any such thing.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
"Vincent Brannigan" <fir...@firelaw.us> wrote in message
news:NLGXj.5967$IK5.4102@trnddc04...
> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>> And that's the danger we face today...
>>
>> Lack of Unity in the Face of our Enemies.
> all dissent is treason
D. Spencer Hines
Lack of Unity in the Face of our Enemies.
A good deal of the behavior we see today on the Left would have been
considered as traitorous during World War II...
Such as the dedicated efforts by many on the Left to ENSURE an American
DEFEAT in Iraq, for their own purely political purposes, by pushing for a
panicky, premature and precipitous pullout from Iraq. All the while
mouthing empty and jejune inanities such as:...
"I support the troops but not the war."
Americans of the World War II Era understood the critical importance of
uniting behind the leadership of our President, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, a
Democrat, and dedicating themselves to WINNING the War.
Today, however, Left-Wing "Anti-War [Anti OUR side of the Global War On
Terror] Democrats and other assorted flavors of Left-Wing Loons, not just
confined to the ranks of mediocre Left-Wing Academic and Media Loons, such
as Brannigan, Gans and Al Franken -- do not WANT us to UNITE behind our duly
elected Commander-In-Chief and WIN the Global War On Terror -- initiated in
a strike against the Homeland that was even more devastating than the Attack
On Pearl Harbor.
Indeed many of these loons, including Pogue Gans, staunchly believe we are
NOT EVEN IN A WAR.
They retreat to a position of Firm & Stubborn Denial.
However, we have our justly precious Freedoms of Speech, Assembly and of the
Press -- and I am in no way suggesting they should be circumscribed or
curtailed.
Indeed Let A Thousand Flowers Bloom...
And Many Will Wilt.
For one of the unanticipated benefits of Free Speech is that it gives the
loons and naïfs PLENTY of ROPE and TIME to hang themselves -- just as we see
is now happening to Barack Obama, whose Wizard of Oz et Sportin' Life Act
behind a curtain of simpering, halting, yet braggadocious demagoguery is
being slowly stripped away.
Sunshine Is Indeed The Best Disinfectant, as Mr. Justice Brandeis taught us.
We see the same thing happening to our mediocre Loon Academics of the Left,
such as Pogues Brannigan and Gans -- who grow increasing frustrated, frantic
and febrile over the Chaos that is descending over their own Democrat Party,
as two final candidates BOTH of whom may be unelectable in November continue
to fight it out and expose each other's weaknesses and unfitness for the
office of Presidency of the United States.
And How Sweet & Entertaining It Is To Watch!
Deeeeelightful!
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum
Vincent Brannigan
another poor uneducated soul getting confused by the fact that words in
English have multiple meanings
When you get to fifth grade they will teach you how to understand the
context of words
As the Germans say Freiheit est nicht Kostenlos
>> Authoritarians know that suppressing dissent allows them to present a
>> unified face to the world. But that unified face is worthless. Remember
>> how we laugh at the "spontaneous demonstrations" in authoritarian
>> countries?
>>
> It isn't about being "Authoritarian", it is about being
> "Participative" -- all to many people simply do not participate.
not what you said
unless participation is slavish agreement
Dissent is participation
>> It's Dolchstoss time for the Iraq war fans. Watch them whine and scream
>> that exposing their idiocy "helps" the other side.
>>
> Nobody is a freakin "fan" of War, any war. People, children & small
> furry animals die in it. It is not a good thing for the environment
> as well. Therefore it must be (when engaged in) fought in the most
> fierce, vigorous, and brutal of manners to bring it to a swift closer
> with nothing other then total & complete victory. Anyone engaging in
> warfare without the desire & will to win is simply pissing in the
> wind.
nonsense no one is for murder but executiosn have lots of fans
all the Bush buds thought they were going to see an execution
instead they got a war , a real war
surprise surprise
now they want to blame anyone else
Vince
Ray O'Hara
> Good Point.
he made an assertion not a point.
J A
> RED HERRING STRAWMAN ALERT!
>
> No one has said any such thing.
You clearly implied that people criticizing the braindead you support (Bush)
and his war "program", would have been considered treasonous in WW2.
Are you retreating from that?
J A
> And that's the danger we face today...
>
> Lack of Unity in the Face of our Enemies.
The real problewm we face, is the same problem we've been facing: really
poor leadership on the part of the corrupt fools you support.
Ray O'Hara
<Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
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no, but everybody might be asked to fight.
Ray O'Hara
"Fred J. McCall" <fmc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> There is no good evidence that military skills run in families, so
> what's your point? There's no reason to believe that the children of
> officers have the least clue about the military.
>
the meigs family being the exception in america.
the von bulows in prussia/germany.
Ray O'Hara
<Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:36:15 +0100, "D. Spencer Hines"
> <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>
> >Paul Begala, Key Staffer & Hillary Supporter: "We Can't Win With Just
> >Eggheads & African-Americans"
> >
>
><http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/clinton-touts-white-support/
>
> >
> >Well, I reckon so...
> >
> >Begala got that one right.
> >
> >And Hillary Rodham Clinton is showing that's a MAJOR WEAKNESS of Barak
> >Hussein Obama.
> >
> >He can't seem to attract the support of white, working class,
blue-collar,
> >non-college-educated Americans in families making less than $50,000 per
> >year -- and Democrats CANNOT win without them.
> >
> So I guess that basically means he ain't getting through to the dumb
> asses. Figures, they're a tough nut to crack.
> >
> >West Virginia is _The Mountain State_ "Montani semper liberi" -
Mountaineers
> >are always free -- is the State Motto. These are very proud and fiercely
> >independent people -- many of them of Scotch-Irish Ancestry.
> >
> >Further, NO Democrat has been able to win the Presidency since 1916
without
> >winning West Virginia.
> >
> There is always the infamous first time.
> >
> >And Barak Obama has turned his BACK on West Virginia and West Virginians.
> >
> Turn is back, or simply unable to connect with illiterate country
> bumpkins. Awful lot of "DC'ers in West Virginia. I wonder if they
> did an analysis of the vote based on native West Virginian, or Byrd
> Pork-barrel relocated West Virginians?
> >
> >BAD Move.
> >
> Ignoring any part of the electorate is a bad move, but there will be
> always those that you simply cannot connect with. In West Virginia I
> wonder how much Race came into play.
> >
> >He has done the same thing with respect to Kentucky and Kentuckians...
> >
> Again, no-shoe wearing Hillbilly's might not just be able to grasp the
> message.
> >
> >And he's going to LOSE there as well.
> >
> Good chance since most are incapable of truly understanding all the
> issues.
> >
> >He'll probably LOSE in Puerto Rico too -- and that's going to raise
again,
> >indeed spotlight, the important question of how much support Obama will
be
> >able to garner from Latinos, Chicanos and Hispanics.
> >
> Don't know about that one, I'll be interested how it shakes out. Never
> thought much about how Puerto Rico Votes, or why they even have a say
> in the matter. Time for them to apply for Statehood, or go their
> separate way. Personally I could care less how that issue shakes out
> either way.
> --
> "Before all else, be armed" -- Machiavelli
PR is happy with its status.
James Hogg
On Sat, 17 May 2008 16:34:26 +0100, "D. Spacer Heinous"
<pan...@excelsior.com> reposted the same tedious crap:
>Indeed let a thousand flowers bloom...
You're a blooming narcissus.
>And many will wilt.
Thou wilt wilt, thou twit.
The rot has already set in.
Zeus vult.
James
Vincent Brannigan
> RED HERRING STRAWMAN ALERT!
>
> No one has said any such thing.
>
> DSH
>
Who was it called Lack of unity a danger?
so say it loud and proud
"dissent shows the health of a democracy and anyone who tries to stifle
dissent is against the American ideal
Unity is not an American ideal
or Ill stand by my comment
Vince
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>
> "Vincent Brannigan" <fir...@firelaw.us> wrote in message
> news:NLGXj.5967$IK5.4102@trnddc04...
>
>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>
>>> And that's the danger we face today...
>>>
>>> Lack of Unity in the Face of our Enemies.
>
>> all dissent is treason
>
>
note he snipped rather than quote what he said
Vince
La N
>> And that's the danger we face today...
>>
>> Lack of Unity in the Face of our Enemies.
>>
>
> you must stand behind the Leader
>
> all dissent is treason
>
Very dangerous thinking. Does Hines suggest that the US become another rogue
state?
Speaking of WMDs, there are waaaaay more mustard shells and other dangerous
chemical weapons off the shore of Canada, produced by Canadians in WWII,
than were supposedly in Saddam's Iraq.
I listened to a CBC Radio interview the other day with the filmmakers of the
(Canadian) National Film Board documentary BURIED AT SEA.
I think Canada should be invaded! Or the US, Britain, et al can just come
and pick up your garbage ....
From the National Film Board site:
http://www.nfb.ca/collection/films/fiche/?id=51673
Description
Hundreds of thousands of tonnes of highly toxic materials lie scattered on
ocean floors - in barrels that are rusting away and releasing their lethal
contents. The results could make Chernobyl look like a child's chemistry
experiment gone awry.
While we worry about weapons of mass destruction in the hands of rogue
states, the West's legacy may prove far more dangerous. During the Second
World War, Canada produced more chemical weapons than any other of the
Allies. After the war, and during the Cold War era, massive weapons
stockpiles were simply dumped into the ocean by the United States, Britain,
Canada, the Soviet Union and Germany. They were considered buried and done
with. Problem solved - forever. In many cases, nobody ever bothered to mark
their locations. Information about known dumps was either mishandled or
suppressed.
This documentary takes us on a journey to discover some of the most
dangerous dump sites. The oceans are vast and unknown; it took almost 90
years to find the wreck of the Titanic. Finding weapons lying underwater
will prove infinitely harder - and far more urgent, since the health of
marine species and coastal communities is at risk. Buried at Sea takes us on
that search.
Fred J. McCall
:On Fri, 16 May 2008 18:46:08 -0700, Fred J. McCall
:<fmc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
:
:>Zomby...@cox.net wrote:
:>
:>:On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:29:21 +0100, "John Briggs"
:>:<john.b...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
:>:
:>:<snip>
:>:>What about the US Naval Academy?
:>:>
:>:What about it, or any other US Military Academy?
:>:
:
:How should I know? That is why I asked the question.
:
The point is that your question is meaningless without context. Hence
my following sentence.
:
:>
:>What about it, indeed? What's the point here?
:>
:
So, what *IS* the point there? "What about it [the US Naval Academy],
or any other US Military Academy" WITH RESPECT TO WHAT QUESTION?
:
:>
:>:
:>:Who better to be
:>:Officers in our Military then the Sons & Daughters of former Officers
:>:who are more then aware of the lifestyle & challenges it can present.
:>:
:>
:>There is no good evidence that military skills run in families, so
:>what's your point? There's no reason to believe that the children of
:>officers have the least clue about the military.
:>
:
:Actually there is.
:
So cite it. Until then, I'm going to go by my experience with
officer's kids, which is that they generally don't have a bloody clue
about pretty much anything you care to name.
:
:>
:>:
:>:Personally I feel that anyone who accepts a position at one of our
:>:Military Academy's better damn well be ready & prepared to make a
:>:full-career out of the investment in them. Be it on Active Duty, the
:>:Reserves, or Guard.
:>:
:>
:>Did *YOU* know what you wanted to do with the rest of your life at the
:>ripe old age of 18? Was your view still the same when you were 24?
:>How about 34?
:>
:
:Yup, I've always wanted to be a Titty Bar owner.
:
And are you?
That's a fine and noble ambition, by the way. A friend of mine wanted
to do that when he went back home to Missouri. He was undecided
whether to call it "You and Everybody That Looks Like You" or "You And
the Horse You Rode In On."
:
:>
:>:
:>:If you aren't willing to make a lifetime commitment of service to your
:>:country, why on earth should you get one of the best "Free" educations
:>:provided to you on a silver platter.
:>:
:>
:>You really have no clue at all what it takes to get into a military
:>academy, do you? You really have no clue at all what it takes to get
:>through a military academy, do you? You're aware that a *reasonable*
:>(vice the life enslavement you seem to favour) service term is
:>required, aren't you?
:>
:
:More then just a clue, but of course you have not a clue to whom you
:are speaking.
:
I just go by what I see. What I see indicates you are clueless in
this regard.
:
:>
:>Some 'silver platter'.
:>
:>:
:>:Personally I think the Academies
:>:place to much priority on Athletic prowess over commitment to service.
:>:
:>
:>Personally I think you're out of your flipping mind on this one...
:>
:
:Everyone is allowed an opinion.
:
Gee, that's just mighty white of you to allow people opinions...
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
D. Spencer Hines
> Unity is not an American ideal
----------------Cordon Sanitaire--------------------------------------
Arrant, Errant, Faux-Academic Twaddle...
E Pluribus Unum -- Out Of Many, One...
Is Right On The Great Seal Of The United States -- And On The One-Dollar
Bills Many Of Us Handle Everyday -- Folding Money -- Even Pogues Brannigan &
Gans -- Our Two Loon-Left & Undereducated Mediocre American Academics.
Brannigan, This Half-Baked, Mediocre College Professor Needs To Go Back To
Junior High School -- Middle School -- And Learn His Basic American Civics
Lessons...
And Some Schoolboy Latin He Missed.
Damn, These "Liberal" Academics Just Get Dumber Every Year.
Here Is A Wikipedia Article Which Will Teach Him The Basics Of What Every
American Citizen Should Know About The Great Seal Of The United States...
And Its Mottos...
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Seal_of_the_United_States>
He Should Also Read This One...
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States>
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum
----------------Cordon Sanitaire--------------------------------------
"Vincent Brannigan" <fir...@firelaw.us> wrote in message
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D. Spencer Hines
news:KaJXj.6001$4K5.1516@trnddc03...
> Unity is not an American ideal
----------------Cordon Sanitaire--------------------------------------
Hilarious!
I just LOVE it when Pogue Brannigan posts something really BATTY like this.
It makes him even MORE Entertaining than usual.
Vincent Brannigan
not one opinion
I guess you cant understand read english or latin
Liberty and union now and forever one and inseparable
does nto mean
all must agree with the same opinion
when you get yourself out of the mud and wipe your face off
Do you support active dissent as a fundamental part of One nation
Vince