Brannigan On The Clintons
D. Spencer Hines
> I met Bill before he met Hillary
> IMHO She made him who he was...
>...she was the smart one...
>...her intellectual and political talent was obvious...
>Brilliant graduate of Yale.
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NOW, when did Brannigan meet Bill Clinton, how old was Brannigan at the time
and how extensive was his contact with Bill Clinton, did he just hear Bubba
play the saxophone?
THOSE are the relevant questions.
NOW, watch him spin, dodge and do the buck and weave.
Amusing...
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum
James Hogg
<pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>Vincent Brannigan on the Clintons, verbatim:
>
>> I met Bill before he met Hillary
>> IMHO She made him who he was...
>
>>...she was the smart one...
>
>>...her intellectual and political talent was obvious...
>
>>Brilliant graduate of Yale.
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>
>NOW, when did Brannigan meet Bill Clinton, how old was Brannigan at the time
>and how extensive was his contact with Bill Clinton, did he just hear Bubba
>play the saxophone?
>
>THOSE are the relevant questions.
>
>NOW, watch him spin, dodge and do the buck and weave.
>
>Amusing...
While we wait for Vince to answer (or dodge) your perfectly justified
questions, maybe you could pass the time for us by telling us a bit
about yourself, David.
The full story of your naval career would, I'm sure, interest many
people. Complete details of your education would be fascinating. We've
only heard snippets from Phil Sinclair and others. We need it from the
horse's mouth [sic].
And tell us more about Kalama.
James
Eugene Griessel
>THOSE are the relevant questions.
True. Very true. The term "relevant questions" can almost be defined
as: "those question David Spencer Hines never answers".
>NOW, watch him spin, dodge and do the buck and weave.
Be a change - all we ever get to do is watch you spin, dodge, buck and
weave.
Eugene L Griessel
It is better to be the object of a noisy demonstration than
a quiet assassination.
- I usually post only from Sci.Military.Naval -
Jack Linthicum
I would think an outline of his naval career would be suitable for at
least one of his cross-posting addresses. Say how he got the
commission, first duty station and so forth.
Vincent Brannigan
I met Bill when I was in High school
My contact was minimal
my sister and Brother in law's contacts were extensive and continue to
this day
Vince
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"Eugene Griessel" <eugene@dynagen..co..za> wrote in message
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> "D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>
>>THOSE are the relevant questions.
>
> True. Very true. The term "relevant questions" can almost be defined
> as: "those question David Spencer Hines never answers".
>
>>NOW, watch him spin, dodge and do the buck and weave.
>
> Be a change - all we ever get to do is watch you spin, dodge, buck and
> weave.
>
Maybe Hines will finally take this opportuity to be a good role model.
- nilita
D. Spencer Hines
That's an honest answer.
He was an undergraduate student at Georgetown at the time?
So he's about five years older than you?
I understand Bill was very "Arkansas" at that time, used to talk about how
big the watermelons were there and so forth -- that he could be quite
charming -- and often had the style of a very smooth and accomplished
high-school politician, with a useful touch of yokel blended in.
What were your impressions of him?
Cheers,
DSH
"Vincent Brannigan" <fir...@firelaw.us> wrote in message
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Vincent Brannigan
He was Georgetown '68 4.5 years older
Good sax player. My soon-to-be Brother in law came from Texas, so they
told "southern jokes" I never spoke to him after that so almost
everything I hear comes through my sister.
Vince
D. Spencer Hines
> I met Bill before he met Hillary
> IMHO She made him who he was...
>...she was the smart one...
>...her intellectual and political talent was obvious...
>Brilliant graduate of Yale.
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Clearly implying you thought "She made him who he was" and that "she was the
smart one" -- although you never saw them TOGETHER -- and have never
interacted with her at all -- right?
I think they are BOTH very smart -- but warped, of course. <g>
If you study how they operated at Yale Law School -- [they are not "Yale
graduates"] -- you can better see how they are DIFFERENTLY smart.
In a nutshell, SHE did the research, the due diligence and wrote the
briefs -- whereas HE was the fellow out front, the litigator, arguing the
case in the Mock Court.
NOW their roles are reversed, sort of and imperfectly, because he chafes in
the "support" role and she can be uncomfortable in the up-front campaigning
role -- although, since she is very smart, she is getting BETTER at it and
has looked REALLY good in Pennsylvania, Indiana and West Virginia.
She is even dressing better and looking radiant -- the best she has looked
in years.
To summarize, YES she is damned smart -- but so is he -- so don't
*misunderestimate* him. <g>
Many folks have -- and they have been snookered, to their rue.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
"Vincent Brannigan" <fir...@firelaw.us> wrote in message
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Vincent Brannigan
> But you said:
>
>> I met Bill before he met Hillary
>> IMHO She made him who he was...
>
>> ...she was the smart one...
>
>> ...her intellectual and political talent was obvious...
>
>> Brilliant graduate of Yale.
> ----------------------------------------
>
> Clearly implying you thought "She made him who he was" and that "she was the
> smart one" -- although you never saw them TOGETHER -- and have never
> interacted with her at all -- right?
your editing slightly distorts the context.
But I will be clearer
When bill and Hillary were discussed in our family
He was the "Warm" one and she was the "Smart" one.
This is smart as in "the smarter of two very smart people"
Vince
> I think they are BOTH very smart -- but warped, of course. <g>
>
> If you study how they operated at Yale Law School -- [they are not "Yale
> graduates"] -- you can better see how they are DIFFERENTLY smart.
>
> In a nutshell, SHE did the research, the due diligence and wrote the
> briefs -- whereas HE was the fellow out front, the litigator, arguing the
> case in the Mock Court.
>
> NOW their roles are reversed, sort of and imperfectly, because he chafes in
> the "support" role and she can be uncomfortable in the up-front campaigning
> role -- although, since she is very smart, she is getting BETTER at it and
> has looked REALLY good in Pennsylvania, Indiana and West Virginia.
>
> She is even dressing better and looking radiant -- the best she has looked
> in years.
>
> To summarize, YES she is damned smart -- but so is he -- so don't
> *misunderestimate* him. <g>
>
> Many folks have -- and they have been snookered, to their rue.
>
> DSH
>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
I can agree, although it was not the context in which I was writing
Vince
D. Spencer Hines
But you were wrong -- your family was wrong.
Yes, he is indeed "WARMER", more of a SCHMOOZER -- but they are BOTH very
SMART.
N'est ce pas?
> When bill [sic] and Hillary were discussed in our family
You even CAPITALIZE Hillary but NOT Bill -- indicating a clear, true
underlying bias. Freudian slip.
You have met and had some social interaction with HER, or not?
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
"Vincent Brannigan" <fir...@firelaw.us> wrote in message
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Vincent Brannigan
> Aye...
>
> But you were wrong -- your family was wrong.
>
> Yes, he is indeed "WARMER", more of a SCHMOOZER -- but they are BOTH very
> SMART.
>
> N'est ce pas?
>
>> When bill [sic] and Hillary were discussed in our family
>
> You even CAPITALIZE Hillary but NOT Bill -- indicating a clear, true
> underlying bias. Freudian slip.
>
> You have met and had some social interaction with HER, or not?
>
My wife has met her professionally
I have seen her speak and at hearings
She is very impressive
D. Spencer Hines
So, you have never met her socially, much less interacted with her socially
in a continuing way.
Fair Enough.
So we've got that established now.
DSH
"Vincent Brannigan" <fir...@firelaw.us> wrote in message
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D. Spencer Hines
You didn't comment on any of this...
Indeed you studiously ignored it.
Why?
Comments?
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Veritas
"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message news:...
TMOliver
"Vincent Brannigan" <fir...@firelaw.us> wrote ...
Spencer,
If guilt by association counts, I honestly believe that Charles "Lucky"
Luciano once bought me a drink in a hotel bar in Palermo. It sure looked
like him, and the amount of "respect" provided by the staff certainly
contributed to the impression.
On the other hand, I have sat next to two very tall guys on two airline
flights, John Kenneth Galbraith and James Arness. Arness was more
personable, but I guess if I had flown more I might I might have met more
celebs...
Once off Naples, I was the OOD on the quarterdeck and had to rush up to the
flight deck to the sound of twittering pipes, standing by the sideboys
saluting when Bob Hope and Ann Margaret arrived by helo. She looked better
than he...
TMO
D. Spencer Hines
into a staff car. <g>
It's ANN-MARGRET...
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Margret>
Saw Joey Heatherton there too, on another occasion.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Heatherton>
Both were genuine beauts...
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
"TMOliver" <tmoliv...@hot.rr.comFIX> wrote in message
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> Once off Naples, I was the OOD on the quarterdeck and had to rush up to
> the flight deck to the sound of twittering pipes, standing by the sideboys
> saluting when Bob Hope and Ann Margaret [sic] arrived by helo. She looked
> better than he...
>
> TMO
Billzz
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>
Well, if we are telling war stories...
There I was at ten-thousand feet...oops, that was another one. Well, there
I was in Brussels, Belgium with a NATO study group, all elderly navy
captains and army colonels when we passed through the bar of the hotel, and
there was Rod Stewart, with the traditional blonde bombshell. We were
intent on our special order of a hundred mussels, in garlic and butter
(Mussels in Brussels, natch) and I do not think that anyone even noticed. I
do not know if it was our being gentlemen, and letting him enjoy his
evening, or whether the lot of us did not know who Rod Stewart was.
Vincent Brannigan
> Professor Brannigan,
>
> You didn't comment on any of this...
>
> Indeed you studiously ignored it.
>
> Why?
>
> Comments?
I felt no need to comment on your opinion
you provided no citation on the facts
Vince
Vincent Brannigan
My most interesting celebrity experience (other than Julie Andrews)
Was sitting in Judge John Sirica's courtroom the day Rose Mary Woods
tried to explain the 18 and half minute. I was sitting next to New York
writer Jimmy Breslin who kept writing "liar Liar LIAR" in his notebook
Leon Jaworski was fantastic
Vince
D. Spencer Hines
DSH
"Billzz" <billzz...@starband.net> wrote in message
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D. Spencer Hines
Indeed...
Prissy Twaddle.
It's common knowledge and you know it.
Several people who were their Yale Law School classmates have gone public on
it -- and I have spoken with two.
She did the research, burned the midnight oil and wrote the briefs -- his
participation was often episodic and even minimal.
Then he breezed in -- studied the briefs and went into the Mock Court loaded
for bear.
Good Teamwork... Different Smarts.
Many law firms operate the same way and you KNOW THAT too.
Don't try to play dumb.
Good lawyers bring different skills to the table and come in different
flavors with different strengths and weaknesses.
Some are best as TRIAL LAWYERS -- whereas some are NOT.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
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