St. George and the Dragon
Yo Mama
preferably one where George is not looking down or of a more realistic
Renaissance quality? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Jessica :)
thom...@mail.hf.uio.no
You have some pictures at this site:
http://www.ucc.ie/milmart/grgwstart.html
The illustrator Boris Vallejo also has done some work based on the St.
George theme, of which one can be found here (it's probably not the
kind of "art" you are looking for, but it's still a little cool in its
own kitchy way):
http://kewl.campus.luth.se/~wizball/gallery/boris/gifs/bv67.jpg
Good luck!
Thomas
Afropea
>and the dragon, preferably one where George is not looking
>down or of a more realistic Renaissance quality? Any help
>would be greatly appreciated. -Jessica :)
It's going to be hard to find one where he's not looking down,
as he does need to aim at the dragon.
Some of my faves of a more naturalistic nature (am I correct
in thinking that's what you want or am I mistaken? If not, let
me know.)
Rogier van der Weyden-St. George and the Dragon, Flemish,
National Gallery of Art, Washington DC. Can be found in Marilyn Stokstad's
"Medieval Art" or books on the National Gallery or
on van der Weyden.
Bernardo Martorelli-St. George and the Dragon, Spanish,
Art Institute of Chicago. Can be found in "History of
Renaissance Art throughout Europe" by Creighton Gilbert.
Raphael--St. George and the Dragon, Italian National Gallery
of Art Washington DC. This is probably one of the most famous depictions. Can
be found in "History of Italian Renaissance Art"
by Frederick Hartt or books on the National Gallery or on Raphael.
If you don't mind an illustration of a sculpture, there's a nice
one also in Creighton Gilbert's book by the German Bernt Notke in Storkyrka,
Stockholm. St. George actually seems to be looking up
as the dragon appears to be rearing.
Another sculpture, which is a true classic is Donatello's St.
George, Bargello, Florence. It is in Hart, but you could probably
find it in any Renaissance art book, or any book on Donatello. Very beautiful.
Pensive, thoughtful. Very naturalistic. He is looking up. Unfortunately the
dragon is no where to be seen. Donatello also
has a relief on the St. George tabernacle at Orsanmichele in Florence,
but you really can't see the face much here.
Hope that helps!
Eve
Chris Dickinson
"
>Anyone know where I can find a good picture of St. George
and the dragon,
>preferably one where George is not looking down or of a
more realistic
>Renaissance quality? Any help would be greatly
appreciated. -Jessica :)
"
OK. You've got my attention. I'm intrigued. Why not 'looking
down'?
My fav pic (but then anything by this artist is) of this
scene is Carpaccio's version. But St George *IS* looking
down and the dragon is, well, Carpaccioesque. The
part-severed torsoes are super.
What is, by the way, a *realistic* dragon .... I thought
they were all much as imagination can make of 'em ?
Chris
D. Spencer Hines
No, it's not "an ugly kind of cute."
It's Gothic Cutsey-Poo, and quite in character for you, I should think.
--
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
"Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit." Publius Virgilius Maro
(Virgil) [70-19 B.C.] [Aeneid I, 203] Aeneas, seeking to comfort his
men as they contemplate an arduous journey to Italy, reassures them
that, "Someday, perhaps, it will be pleasant to remember all this."
Czaerana <czae...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19991101025211...@ng-fx1.aol.com...
| >My favorite depiction of that subject has the very calm princess
holding a
| >leash attached to a rather cute little dragon. Wish I knew the
artist...
| >
| >Cynthia
|
| To answer my own question...it's Ucello.
| http://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/cgfa/u/p-ucello2.htm
| Okay, so its [sic] an ugly kind of cute! :-)
|
| Cynthia
| http://members.aol.com/Czaerana/index.html
Czaerana
>preferably one where George is not looking down or of a more realistic
>Renaissance quality? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Jessica :)
My favorite depiction of that subject has the very calm princess holding a
leash attached to a rather cute little dragon. Wish I knew the artist...
Czaerana
>leash attached to a rather cute little dragon. Wish I knew the artist...
>
>Cynthia
To answer my own question...it's Ucello.
http://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/cgfa/u/p-ucello2.htm
Okay, so its an ugly kind of cute! :-)
mary_...@cix.compulink.co.uk
(Yo Mama) wrote:
> Anyone know where I can find a good picture of St. George
>and the dragon, preferably one where George is not looking
>down or of a more realistic Renaissance quality? Any help
>would be greatly appreciated. -Jessica :)
Why not 'looking down'?
I think it's Uchello's G&D where St George is leading the
dragon around on a leash, if that helps.
Mary
Chris Dickinson
>>My favorite depiction of that subject has the very calm
princess holding a
>>leash attached to a rather cute little dragon. Wish I knew
the artist...
>>
>>Cynthia
>To answer my own question...it's Ucello.
>http://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/cgfa/u/p-ucello2.htm
>Okay, so its an ugly kind of cute! :-)
.... um, I'm not one to comment on spelling, but proper
names are fair game :-)
Uccello
Chris
myc...@my-deja.com
> preferably one where George is not looking down or of a more realistic
> Renaissance quality? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -
I have just spent over half-a-minute trying to decide what "a more
realistic Renaissance quality" actually means? Do you mean that the
picture fetched high prices at the Florentine auctions? Or was was
available at cut price in the Low Countries. " yer actual Reel
Renaasanse quality!"? Fell off the back of a cart if you know what I
mean?
Have you tried the Olde Kent Road?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Czaerana
>
>It's Gothic Cutsey-Poo, and quite in character for you, I should think.
>--
>
>D. Spencer Hines
Guess I've gone through a "rite de passage" on SHM...the Great Pomposity
singles me out for insults. :-)
Czaerana
>names are fair game :-)
>
>Uccello
>
>Chris
Both spellings were listed on the 1st site I found it on.
Bryan J. Maloney
> Anyone know where I can find a good picture of St. George and the dragon,
> preferably one where George is not looking down or of a more realistic
> Renaissance quality? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Jessica :)
I can point you to several Orthodox Ikons--but they won't be what you want.
Czaerana
>dragon around on a leash, if that helps.
>
>Mary
No, it's the princess holding the leash in Uccello's work. George is on a
marvelously charging steed. It looks as if he is killing the lady's pet!
Czaerana
Encyclopaedia":
SAINT GEORGE AND THE DRAGON
The best known form of the legend of St. George and the Dragon is that
made popular by the "Legenda Aurea", and translated into English by
Caxton. According to this, a terrible dragon had ravaged all the country
round a city of Libya, called Selena, making its lair in a marshy swamp.
Its breath caused pestilence whenever it approached the town, so the
people gave the monster two sheep every day to satisfy its hunger, but,
when the sheep failed, a human victim was necessary and lots were drawn
to determine the victim. On one occasion the lot fell to the king's
little daughter. The king offered all his wealth to purchase a
substitute, but the people had pledged themselves that no substitutes
should be allowed, and so the maiden, dressed as a bride, was led to the
marsh. There St. George chanced to ride by, and asked the maiden what
she did, but she bade him leave her lest he also might perish. The good
knight stayed, however, and, when the dragon appeared, St. George,
making the sign of the cross, bravely attacked it and transfixed it with
his lance. Then asking the maiden for her girdle (an incident in the
story which may possibly have something to do with St. George's
selection as patron of the Order of the Garter), he bound it round the
neck of the monster, and thereupon the princess was able to lead it like
a lamb. They then returned to the city, where St. George bade the people
have no fear but only be baptized, after which he cut off the dragon's
head and the townsfolk were all converted. The king would have given
George half his kingdom, but the saint replied that he must ride on,
bidding the king meanwhile take good care of God's churches, honour the
clergy, and have pity on the poor. The earliest reference to any such
episode in art is probably to be found in an old Roman tombstone at
Conisborough in Yorkshire, considered to belong to the first half of the
twelfth century. Here the princess is depicted as already in the
dragon's clutches, while an abbot stands by and blesses the rescuer.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06453a.htm
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mary_...@cix.compulink.co.uk
czae...@aol.com (Czaerana) wrote:
> >I think it's Uchello's G&D where St George is leading the
> >dragon around on a leash, if that helps.
> >
> >Mary
>
> No, it's the princess holding the leash in Uccello's work.
>George is on a marvelously charging steed. It looks as if he
>is killing the lady's pet!
You're right, of course; I remembered as soon as someone
said it. Well, I knew the dragon was on a leash, anyway!
There's rather a lot of nice medieval dragons in the National
Gallery, which was where I was looking at the Ucello. I much
prefer the medieval squat, dangerous-looking little bastards
to the later Victorian version. Granted they don't look
air-worthy, but they do look as if they could bite St
George's leg off without much difficulty.
Mary
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