Michelle Obama Vetoes Hillary For VP
D. Spencer Hines
Hillary is not the only one with cat's claws.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
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May 10, 2008
Michelle Vetoes Hillary
By Robert Novak
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Close-in supporters of Sen. Barack Obama's presidential
campaign are convinced he never will offer the vice presidential nomination
to Sen. Hillary Clinton for one overriding reason: Michelle Obama.
The Democratic front-runner's wife did not comment on other rival candidates
for the party's nomination, but she has been sniping at Clinton since last
summer. According to Obama sources, those public utterances do not reveal
the extent of her hostility.
A footnote: Support is growing in Democratic ranks for Ohio Gov. Ted
Strickland as vice president. He would bring to the ticket maturity (66
years old), experience (six terms in Congress) and moderation (rated "A" by
the National Rifle Association). He is very popular in Ohio, a state
Republicans must carry to elect a president.
Singanas@Texasgulfcoast
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Wow. What a bombshell. Well, that's the end of that.
Maybe Obama will give her cabinet status or perhaps management
of a bureau or agency. I have a hunch that Al Gore will get the EPA,
Interior, or at least something to do with global warming.
Oops ! I am counting the chickens before they are hatched.
Cheers, David H
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Zomby...@cox.net
Maybe he will simply give her the well deserved boot she deserves. I'm
pondering fairly hard on the subject, but to the best of my
recollection the VP slot has never gone to a Primary winners opponent.
>
>Oops ! I am counting the chickens before they are hatched.
>
That's OK, I'm shooting & plucking them for the pot.
--
"Before all else, be armed" -- Machiavelli
Tiger
I kinda feel sorry for Barack. All of his friends are wingnuts. Now his
wife can't keep her trap shut. And she's more of a biter lefty than he
is. If this is a example of his management skills, we are in srious
trouble....
gjan...@nospam.net
Really you think were going to be in trouble because of Obama? --> Is
that more or less trouble then the idiot bush and his 3-trillion dollar
war and mccain who wants more of it for a 100 years?
In <4827128A...@hotmail.com>, on 05/11/2008
La N
"Tiger" <Lana_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You yanks are sure into yellow journalism and tabloid speculations based on
"unnamed sources". The tabs are even chomping at the bit releasing bits and
pieces of personal scandals of your hero John McCain.
Unfortunately, these "dirt, true or not", tactics work in helping bring down
one's political opponents.
- nilita
Jack Linthicum
> "Tiger" <Lana_sa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
The other side, from Frank Rich's column in the NYT
You can’t surf to a right-wing blog or Fox News without someone
beating up on Mr. Wright or the other predictable conservative piñata,
Michelle Obama.
La N
"Jack Linthicum" <jackli...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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And, of course, one can't plug into Usenet without being subjected to that
old gossip maven, DS Hines who is reminding me more and more of Perez Hilton
......
- nilita
J A
"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message
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> Amusing...
>
> Hillary is not the only one with cat's claws.
>
> DSH
>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Zell Miller.
'Nuff said.
J A
"Freewhilin Frank" <Freewhee...@freakbros.cz> wrote in message
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> slope
> into the shadows of the dark side. It is like a carotid artery blockage
> (the
> artery that supplies blood, nutrients, and oxygen to the brain) a once
> useful
> brain shrivels and dies off piece by piece. Sometime it is quick, but
> sometimes like in this case, it is a slow process so painful to those that
> surround him.
>
> "Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time
> out from demanding more flag burning laws, more
> abortion laws, more drug laws, more obscenity laws,
> and more police surveillance to remind us that we
> need to 'get the government off our backs'."
> --Governor Swill 2008--
The Republicans don't have good arguments or good recent results to argue
from.
Therefore, they have to go to rumor mongering and smears, something their
christian braindead elements have a special expertise at.
PaPaPeng
wrote:
>I kinda feel sorry for Barack. All of his friends are wingnuts. Now his
>wife can't keep her trap shut. And she's more of a biter lefty than he
>is. If this is a example of his management skills, we are in srious
>trouble....
Let's see. A Michelle run for the Presidency in 16 years ala Hillary?
D. Spencer Hines
That's why she's fair game on the campaign.
DSH
"PaPaPeng" <PaPa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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J A
"Tiger" <Lana_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Shiiit, dawg, you know you can't shut up a sistah cept one way. He caint
beez given her no whupping right now and be having poolice nosing around and
shit. You wait come time the brother be elected and shit and dat 'ho gonna
be learnin her lessons and how to keep quiet. He want dat clinton bitch in
there, she be there, you see. She be raight in that little side room where
Bill kept dat Monica beitch. No sweat bro, you see.
Singanas@Texasgulfcoast
> "Tiger" <Lana_sa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
J A, why don't you and Algernon Nuttcase take your
disgusting English to one of the Nigra-baiting groups.
It's a sad day for Alt.History.British when this kind of ignorant
Continental rag is passed off by Amercans as specie.
Cheers, David H
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BL5511
family such as Vincent Foster, Obama is wise not to select Clinton as
a VP. The secret service should protect Senator Obama as soon as
possible even before the nomination.
On May 10, 2:46 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
Jack Linthicum
> With many coincidental deaths among whoever associated with Clinton's
> family such as Vincent Foster, Obama is wise not to select Clinton as
> a VP. The secret service should protect Senator Obama as soon as
> possible even before the nomination.
>
>
Do you think they don't/didn't know that?
gjan...@nospam.net
Do you right wing paranoids' still check under the bed for commies too?
In <0e0685f9-5fc9-408e...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, on
05/12/2008
Vincent Brannigan
Take your meds
it was Laura Bush who killed someone
Michael Dutton Douglas
Michael Dutton Douglas (November 16, 1945 – November 6, 1963) was a
17-year-old acquaintance of Laura Welch (later First Lady Laura Bush)
who was killed when Welch, also 17, failed to stop at a stop sign while
driving and broadsided his vehicle. Welch was not ticketed or charged in
connection with the collision. According to some accounts, Douglas was a
former romantic interest or ex-boyfriend of Welch. [1]
Douglas and Welch were students together at Robert E. Lee High School in
Midland, Texas. Douglas has been described as an active athlete,
physically attractive, and intelligent. He was nominated as the school's
most popular male student while a junior, an honor typically awarded
only to graduating high school seniors.
In May 2000, a two-page police report detailing the fatal crash was made
public. The report revealed that on November 6, 1963, Welch was driving
her Chevrolet Impala sedan with one passenger (Judy Dyke, also 17). It
was a clear Wednesday night, shortly after 8 p.m., when Welch entered
the intersection of State Highway 349 and Farm to Market Road 868. Welch
failed to observe the intersection's stop sign and collided into
Douglas' Chevrolet Corvair sedan. Welch and Dyke sustained minor
injuries; Douglas was pronounced dead on arrival at Midland Memorial
Hospital. Welch was not charged with any offense.
The future First Lady made a brief remark in March 2000 about the crash,
"I know this as an adult, and even more as a parent, it was crushing ...
for the family involved and for me as wel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Dutton_Douglas
William Black
"Vincent Brannigan" <fir...@firelaw.us> wrote in message
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> Jack Linthicum wrote:
>> On May 12, 8:07 am, BL5511 <pb5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> With many coincidental deaths among whoever associated with Clinton's
>>> family such as Vincent Foster, Obama is wise not to select Clinton as
>>> a VP. The secret service should protect Senator Obama as soon as
>>> possible even before the nomination.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Do you think they don't/didn't know that?
>
> Take your meds
> it was Laura Bush who killed someone
Besides, anyone who thinks Barak Obama hasn't already got a largish
security detail hanging around outside his office door needs professional
help.
Do candidates get Secret Service bodyguards or do they have to settle for
some other agency?
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
Vincent Brannigan
> "Vincent Brannigan" <fir...@firelaw.us> wrote in message
> news:I8XVj.1044$lQ1.815@trnddc02...
>> Jack Linthicum wrote:
>>> On May 12, 8:07 am, BL5511 <pb5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> With many coincidental deaths among whoever associated with
>>>> Clinton's family such as Vincent Foster, Obama is wise not to
>>>> select Clinton as a VP. The secret service should protect
>>>> Senator Obama as soon as possible even before the nomination.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Do you think they don't/didn't know that?
>> Take your meds it was Laura Bush who killed someone
>
> Besides, anyone who thinks Barak Obama hasn't already got a largish
> security detail hanging around outside his office door needs
> professional help.
>
> Do candidates get Secret Service bodyguards or do they have to settle
> for some other agency?
>
The secret service protects
* (7) Major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates and,
within 120 days of the general Presidential election, the spouses
of such candidates. As used in this paragraph, the term ''major
Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates'' means those
individuals identified as such by the Secretary of the Treasury
after consultation with an advisory committee consisting of the
Speaker of the House of Representatives, the minority leader of
the House of Representatives, the majority and minority leaders
of the Senate, and one additional member selected by the other
members of the committee. The protection authorized in paragraphs
(2) through (7) may be declined.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/ref/blssprotect.htm
Vince
La N
Man, Jack, you sure get sucked into conspiracy theories at times .... Or you
just plain hate the Clintons.
- nilita
Jack Linthicum
> "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
The Secret Service steps in, oftentimes uninvited, and "protects" some
people who don't even know they have enemies.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/25/us/politics/25memo.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
February 25, 2008
Political Memo
In Painful Past, Hushed Worry About Obama
By JEFF ZELENY
DALLAS — There is a hushed worry on the minds of many supporters of
Senator Barack Obama, echoing in conversations from state to state,
rally to rally: Will he be safe?
In Colorado, two sisters say they pray daily for his safety. In New
Mexico, a daughter says she persuaded her mother to still vote for Mr.
Obama, even though the mother feared that winning would put him in
danger. And at a rally here, a woman expressed worries that a message
of hope and change, in addition to his race, made him more vulnerable
to violence.
“I’ve got the best protection in the world,” Mr. Obama, of Illinois,
said in an interview, reprising a line he tells supporters who raise
the issue with him. “So stop worrying.”
Yet worry they do, with the spring of 1968 seared into their memories,
when the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Senator Robert F. Kennedy
were assassinated in a span of two months.
Mr. Obama was 6 at the time, and like many of his admirers, he has
only read about the violence that traumatized the nation. But those
recollections and images are often invoked by older voters, who watch
his candidacy with fascination, as well as an uneasy air of
apprehension, as Democrats inch closer to selecting their nominee.
Mr. Obama has had Secret Service agents surrounding him since May 3
[2007], the earliest a candidate has ever been provided protection.
(He reluctantly gave in to the insistent urging of Senator Richard J.
Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, and others in Congress.) As his rallies
have swelled in size, his security has increased, coming close to
rivaling that given to a sitting president.
His wife, Michelle Obama, voiced concerns about his safety before he
was elected to the Senate. Three years ago, she said she dreaded the
day her husband received Secret Service protection, because it would
mean serious threats had been made against him.
Among friends and advisers, danger is something Mr. Obama rarely
mentions.
“It’s not something that I’m spending time thinking about day to day,”
said Mr. Obama, who has been given the Secret Service nickname
Renegade, a way for agents to quickly identify him. “I made a decision
to get into this race. I think anybody who decides to run for
president recognizes that there are some risks involved, just like
there are risks in anything.” <more>
La N
On May 12, 9:36 am, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:0e0685f9-5fc9-408e...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On May 12, 8:07 am, BL5511 <pb5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> With many coincidental deaths among whoever associated with Clinton's
> >> family such as Vincent Foster, Obama is wise not to select Clinton as
> >> a VP. The secret service should protect Senator Obama as soon as
> >> possible even before the nomination.
>
> > Do you think they don't/didn't know that?
>
> Man, Jack, you sure get sucked into conspiracy theories at times .... Or
> you
> just plain hate the Clintons.
>
> - nilita
The Secret Service steps in, oftentimes uninvited, and "protects" some
people who don't even know they have enemies.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/25/us/politics/25memo.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
********************
I imagine the Secret Service *knows* that all presidential candidates have
"enemies" and they step in to protect all of them. I thought that was a
given. I think the Clintons ordering a hit on Obama is pretty loony toony
...
- nilita
Jack Linthicum
> "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:5f689de5-0542-48c4...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On May 12, 9:36 am, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:0e0685f9-5fc9-408e...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On May 12, 8:07 am, BL5511 <pb5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> With many coincidental deaths among whoever associated with Clinton's
> > >> family such as Vincent Foster, Obama is wise not to select Clinton as
> > >> a VP. The secret service should protect Senator Obama as soon as
> > >> possible even before the nomination.
>
> > > Do you think they don't/didn't know that?
>
> > Man, Jack, you sure get sucked into conspiracy theories at times .... Or
> > you
> > just plain hate the Clintons.
>
> > - nilita
>
> The Secret Service steps in, oftentimes uninvited, and "protects" some
> people who don't even know they have enemies.
>
>
> ********************
>
> I imagine the Secret Service *knows* that all presidential candidates have
> "enemies" and they step in to protect all of them. I thought that was a
> given. I think the Clintons ordering a hit on Obama is pretty loony toony
> ...
>
> - nilita
But, if just by accident, one of Terry McCaullife's "miracles" was to
appear and that terrible "accident" happened, would the Clinton people
interfere?
La N
If my uncle had tits, would he be my aunt? Sheesh.
- nilita
La N
"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You know, Jack? My best friend in L.A. is a Clinton supporter, and
occasionally she will send me and others notes about dirty tricks and
skullduggery played by the Obama camp. I decided a few months ago I
couldn't bear following American politics because it was getting so dirty.
Furthermore, it was making John McCain look damned good.
- nillita
Jack Linthicum
> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:mAYVj.2211$KB3.504@edtnps91...
>
>
>
>
>
I would be curious to see what were considered dirty tricks, after all
McCain took a crack about losing his bearings and made it an ageist
slap. Hillary got California through the early voters and name
recognition, before anyone knew who Obama was.
TMOliver
"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote >
> I imagine the Secret Service *knows* that all presidential candidates have
> "enemies" and they step in to protect all of them. I thought that was a
> given. I think the Clintons ordering a hit on Obama is pretty loony toony
> ...
>
Currently, as in years past, "Conspirowhackodom" is not a kingdom inhabited
solely by the foil-helmeted, Idaho-forted up, black helo-ducking denizens of
the far Right. In recent years the Left Blogoshere has been dripping acidly
with all sorts of imagined devious designs and plans which the Dupish always
seem to believe that the Right is hatching. The "FOAF" ("Friend of a
Friend") doctrine has some indirect retelling of a horror story in which
some wee innocent utopian has had an anal probe inserted by the TSA or a
piece demonstrator has been shredded by a county mowing machine out on
Prairie Chapel Road to conceal the fact that Cheney and friends were hunting
protected ibex while raising oil prices. I'm not sure that the savagery with
which the Right reserved for attacks on the Clintons was any louder or
bloodier than the vitriolic level with which the Left has hammered the
current administration. The rules have changed since JFK. With the US
media having grown even more tabloidish than Fleet Street, scandals both
imagined, invented or simply occasionally real, have become the meat and
potatoes of the media. Faux and MiSSNBC inflate stuff than even Drudge and
the bloggers would hardly have the imagination to invent or the confidence
in accuracy of source to promote.
Having been involved directly and indirectly with the federal government
over several decades, I can only confirm that the worst possible place in
which to keep a secret or hatch or run a devious plot would be amongst the
army of federal workers. So envious and jealous are they of each other, and
so paranoid as they reveal themselves to be by imagined threats or exposure
of minor sins by other workers as to be a veritable pack of Judases ready to
rat each other out for a dime (and to slip billets doux to the media).
The sort of standing joke that used to circulate in Washington was that the
CIA worked so hard to protect so many secrets knowing that the volume which
leaked out would be so great that the curious media and public could not
quite absorb them and remain unable to wade through the morass to find the
real protected corps of important secrets. In departments like HUD, plans
and intentions were indirectly available to the investor community and
developers long before they were communicated to HUD's regional and area
offices or released to the media. On the other hand, once a decision, bad
or good, had been put in play, nothing but cataclysm could change it, and
then only after the public casualty and profiteers lists grew embarrassing.
For smn content, a classic example.... Years ago the Western Allies carried
out most naval operations using a classified (modestly so, CONFIDENTIAL as I
recall) manual, "ATP-1A". Much concern was given to protecting the minimal
secrets contained therein. Meanwhile, when it became apparent that by
acknowledging and executing tactical radio and visually-signaled commands,
that various Soviet auxiliaries which shadowed the US fleet possessed there
own copies (and made regular corrections as published)....
As for not wanting Hillary on the ticket, I'm pretty sure that those among
the Democrat Party leadership there are enough who share Ms. Obama's opinion
to fill a large auditorium. It's not just Hillary, its the prospects of a
term in office spent with a large, highly audible, highly visible eminence
lurking "not quite in the background", his wife's office giving him even
greater prominence, always ready to play Cardinal Richelieu in matters
foreign and domestic). If you think Jimmy Cater raises hackles traveling
about on his missions, the hackles among potential advisers to a potential
Obama presidency are already erect wondering what Bill will say or do next.
TMO
Jack Linthicum
> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote >
I had a Russian visit me when I worked the FCC.As a courtesy for
visitors who had to wait while I might be on the phone, etc. I kept
several magazines on the coffee table. One of these was Aviation Week
The Russian dove for it as soon as we had acknowledged each other's
presence and commented that it would be classified secret or higher in
the Soviet Union. I replied that was the idea, we put out so much
stuff that it would require more time and effort to sort out the fake
stuff from the real thing. One of the delivery vehicles was AVweek.
D. Spencer Hines
Obama has a full contingent of Secret Service agents.
DSH
"William Black" <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:g09fr9$o56$2...@registered.motzarella.org...
> Do candidates get Secret Service bodyguards...
D. Spencer Hines
Yes.
Obama has a full contingent of Secret Service agents.
So does Michelle -- and so do the daughters. There are some amusing stories
about Barbara Bush, one of GWB's daughters, and her Secret Service agents at
Yale.
But candidates do need to request it.
McCain did not do so for quite a while because he wanted to be closer to the
people, wading into crowds, and not under Secret Service constraints. He
had his own private and privately funded bodyguards and security
technicians. But he did eventually request Secret Service protection and
now has them.
Death threats concentrate the minds of staffers remarkably.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
"William Black" <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
J A
"Singanas@Texasgulfcoast" <davidh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You are a clueless senile trying to make himself look elevated, by feigned
outrage over a stab at humor.
>
> Cheers, David H
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
J A
Like what?
As far as I know, Clinton's wife has been the one exhibiting gutter tactics,
and Obama
has been criticised for abstaining from them.
Zomby...@cox.net
wrote:
>
While not Jack, I'll own up to personally just hating the Clintons.
Although it is more of what they stand for then anything else.
--
"Before all else, be armed" -- Machiavelli
Zomby...@cox.net
wrote:
>
>You know, Jack? My best friend in L.A. is a Clinton supporter, and
>occasionally she will send me and others notes about dirty tricks and
>skullduggery played by the Obama camp. I decided a few months ago I
>couldn't bear following American politics because it was getting so dirty.
>Furthermore, it was making John McCain look damned good.
>
Sheeeit, you think Hillary didn't learn a "Dirty Trick" or two from
Bill. Hell she probably even met a couple of em.
Zomby...@cox.net
wrote:
>
Balls said the Queen, if I had a pair I'd be King.
D. Spencer Hines
When the going gets tough and controversial, Nilita Gay runs for the tall
grass.
Politics Isn't Beanbag...
It's A Blood Sport.
DSH
gjan...@nospam.net
Gee zomby you're in for a good hard time over the next few years, what
with john mcbush being defeated, the right wign kooks thrown out of
office, and democrats replacing them all.
You better get your coward right wign ass to iraq before its all over and
you have no war for nothing to love.
In <91sk24dm7ttpq4jq6...@4ax.com>, on 05/15/2008