Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Yes!! Iliad movie coming out !!

1 view
Skip to first unread message

rms

unread,
Nov 5, 2003, 8:42:35 PM11/5/03
to
Ok, it stars Brad Pitt, and it's been magnified to a scale even beyond any
wild dream of Homer, but who cares!!! A classic book on film, I was
over-joyed to see this trailer before the Matrix Revolutions movie. Great
stuff. The website listed was www.troymovie.com

rms


al-Daoud al-Bedlami

unread,
Nov 5, 2003, 11:30:33 PM11/5/03
to
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, rms wrote:

> Re: Yes!! Iliad movie coming out !!

> Ok, it stars Brad Pitt

This is a JOKE, right?

If not, what's next, _The Epic of Gilgamesh_ starring Gary Coleman?


D.

Jeroen

unread,
Nov 5, 2003, 11:38:06 PM11/5/03
to

"al-Daoud al-Bedlami" <thed...@troll.weezl.org> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.44.03110...@troll.weezl.org...

Oh, I heard Jean Claude van Damme is going to do Gilgamesh.


tejas

unread,
Nov 5, 2003, 11:57:44 PM11/5/03
to

"Jeroen" <J_dou...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bocjf8$4rd$1...@reader11.wxs.nl...
Isn't Bobcat Goldthwaite going to play Beowulf?

Ted.


Gordon

unread,
Nov 6, 2003, 1:24:55 AM11/6/03
to
In article <cxkqb.11971$9M3....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
tbsa...@infionline.net says...

That was Christopher Lambert.
It wasn't pretty.

--
Gordon
"I have just as much authority as the Pope.
I just don't have as many people who believe it."

J. Del Col

unread,
Nov 6, 2003, 7:41:11 AM11/6/03
to
al-Daoud al-Bedlami <thed...@troll.weezl.org> wrote in message news:<Pine.LNX.4.44.03110...@troll.weezl.org>...


With Mr. T as Humbaba. "I pity the fool who attacks my cedars!"


J. Del Col

artyw

unread,
Nov 6, 2003, 8:49:44 AM11/6/03
to
al-Daoud al-Bedlami <thed...@troll.weezl.org> wrote in message news:<Pine.LNX.4.44.03110...@troll.weezl.org>...
Probably couldn't be worse than Demi Moore playing Hester Prynne.

John S. Watson

unread,
Nov 6, 2003, 1:13:15 PM11/6/03
to
al-Daoud al-Bedlami <thed...@troll.weezl.org> wrote in message news:<Pine.LNX.4.44.03110...@troll.weezl.org>...
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, rms wrote:
>
> > Re: Yes!! Iliad movie coming out !!
>
> > Ok, it stars Brad Pitt
>
> This is a JOKE, right?

I was thinking that maybe it was going to be a spoof,
but sadly, looking at the internest movie database (imdb.com),
it doesn't look like it.

Somehow I never pictured someone like Brad Pitt,
when I reading of Achilles, "the greatest hero among the Greeks".

Now if it was the version of Achilles in Shakespeare's "Troilus and Cressida",
that I could see Pitt doing.

JW

Chris Camfield

unread,
Nov 6, 2003, 5:17:29 PM11/6/03
to
Ok, so have you people all been hiding under rocks? :) Just kidding. But there
have been pics released of Pitt in armour, and other stills, for months now.
I'm not sure if Pitt would be my choice for Achilles by any means, but I think
he's a reasonably good actor and will probably do a good job.

Some images of Pitt as Achilles:
http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006c.jpg
http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006e.jpg
http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006j.jpg

Some other stills, of ships basically:
http://www.showbizireland.com/news/june03/05-pitt02.shtml

I know I've seen pictures of some of "Troy"'s walls, somewhere...

ThomasDefender

unread,
Nov 6, 2003, 6:59:09 PM11/6/03
to
if you think that is bad, next year Hollywood has Leonardo De Caprio playing
Alexander the Great.


Henry Hooray

unread,
Nov 7, 2003, 6:49:28 AM11/7/03
to
S'got to be the 'j' picture
(http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006j.jpg) - just as I always
imagined the greatest of the Greek heroes to look. An absolute spitting
image :o)

The sad thing is that we shall probably all go and see this film anyway :o(

Henry.

"Chris Camfield" <ccam...@DELETEMEemail.com> wrote in message
news:amhlqvoukm1kcdjjq...@4ax.com...

Josh Prosten

unread,
Nov 7, 2003, 10:58:14 AM11/7/03
to
How about Halle Berry as the Queen of Sheba, and John Favreau as Solomon

"Gordon" <moi...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:XOlqb.4260$PH6....@twister.austin.rr.com...

John S. Watson

unread,
Nov 7, 2003, 2:11:28 PM11/7/03
to
"Henry Hooray" <c2mi...@sneakeLEAVETHISOUTmail.com> wrote in message news:<bog0l4$8gn$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>...

> S'got to be the 'j' picture
> (http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006j.jpg) - just as I always
> imagined the greatest of the Greek heroes to look. An absolute spitting
> image :o)

Maybe when it comes out, the company, that made the guy who's
playing "Hector" here, turn into "The Hulk", will have
added a lot of speical effects to make Mr. Pitt look less pouty and GQ?

> The sad thing is that we shall probably all go and see this film anyway

Zeus forbid!
Now if Jennifer Connelly was playing Helen ... maybe.

Chances are, if for whatever reason it turns out to be a decent film,
I'll rent it on DVD.
Since I've pretty much given up going to theaters and watching
movies when they come out.
(I like to be able to eat and drink whatever I want,
and pause the movie whenever I want).


I wonder why they decided to call it "Troy" instead of "The Iliad"?

Petrushka

unread,
Nov 7, 2003, 2:42:58 PM11/7/03
to
John S. Watson wrote:
> "Henry Hooray" <c2mi...@sneakeLEAVETHISOUTmail.com> wrote in message news:<bog0l4$8gn$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>
>>S'got to be the 'j' picture
>>(http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006j.jpg) - just as I always
>>imagined the greatest of the Greek heroes to look. An absolute spitting
>>image :o)

* shudder *

[snip]


> I wonder why they decided to call it "Troy" instead of "The Iliad"?

I presume it isn't a movie of the Iliad but about the Trojan War. Silly
mistake if you ask me. Do no movie-makers read their Aristotle's
Poetics?... unity of plot etc.

--
Petrushka | Wellington, NZ
de_meun at yahoo dot com

Newsgroup Poster

unread,
Nov 7, 2003, 3:35:38 PM11/7/03
to
"Henry Hooray" <c2mi...@sneakeLEAVETHISOUTmail.com> wrote in message news:<bog0l4$8gn$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> S'got to be the 'j' picture
> (http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006j.jpg) - just as I always
> imagined the greatest of the Greek heroes to look. An absolute spitting
> image :o)
>
> The sad thing is that we shall probably all go and see this film anyway :o(
>
> Henry.


Yes, that would really be sad, because if financially successful, the
studio-oids would probably conclude that Brad Pitt is a great star who
could bankroll any kind of movie, whereas the opposite case would
occasion the murmur that historical epics don't sell, not even Brad
Pitt could save one....

o8TY

unread,
Nov 8, 2003, 8:41:11 AM11/8/03
to

"Chris Camfield" <ccam...@DELETEMEemail.com> wrote in message
news:amhlqvoukm1kcdjjq...@4ax.com...
> Ok, so have you people all been hiding under rocks? :) Just kidding. But
there
> have been pics released of Pitt in armour, and other stills, for months
now.
> I'm not sure if Pitt would be my choice for Achilles by any means, but I
think
> he's a reasonably good actor and will probably do a good job.
>
> Some images of Pitt as Achilles:
> http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006c.jpg
> http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006e.jpg
> http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006j.jpg
>
> Some other stills, of ships basically:
> http://www.showbizireland.com/news/june03/05-pitt02.shtml
>

Fourth picture down from the top shows half of a greek ship on the sand
where something blue appears mid-ships.

Could this be early Greek version of the Mercury (Hermes) Ion Drive used to
power NASA's space craft.

Chris Camfield

unread,
Nov 8, 2003, 11:14:44 AM11/8/03
to
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:41:11 +1100, "o8TY" <o8...@hotmail.com> wrote:
[snip]

>Fourth picture down from the top shows half of a greek ship on the sand
>where something blue appears mid-ships.
>
>Could this be early Greek version of the Mercury (Hermes) Ion Drive used to
>power NASA's space craft.

You know, it's customary to add smiley faces to jokes on Usenet. Otherwise you
come across as a bit of a crackpot here. :-)

Chris

Alice K. Turner

unread,
Nov 8, 2003, 7:29:41 PM11/8/03
to

"Newsgroup Poster" <ng_p...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:afff3966.03110...@posting.google.com...

> > >
> > The sad thing is that we shall probably all go and see this film
anyway :o(
> >
> > Henry.
>
>
> Yes, that would really be sad, because if financially successful, the
> studio-oids would probably conclude that Brad Pitt is a great star who
> could bankroll any kind of movie, whereas the opposite case would
> occasion the murmur that historical epics don't sell, not even Brad
> Pitt could save one....

"Gladiator" did extremely well.

Agamemnon

unread,
Nov 8, 2003, 9:39:28 PM11/8/03
to

"Petrushka" <fa...@see.signature.below> wrote in message
news:%ASqb.5534$ws.5...@news02.tsnz.net...

> John S. Watson wrote:
> > "Henry Hooray" <c2mi...@sneakeLEAVETHISOUTmail.com> wrote in message
news:<bog0l4$8gn$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> >
> >>S'got to be the 'j' picture
> >>(http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006j.jpg) - just as I always
> >>imagined the greatest of the Greek heroes to look. An absolute spitting
> >>image :o)
>
> * shudder *
>
> [snip]
> > I wonder why they decided to call it "Troy" instead of "The Iliad"?

Troy was the name of the central citadel founded by Tros. Ilium was the name
of the new city suburb founded by his son Ilus which surrounded it. The
archaeology confirms the existence of both.

>
> I presume it isn't a movie of the Iliad but about the Trojan War. Silly
> mistake if you ask me. Do no movie-makers read their Aristotle's
> Poetics?... unity of plot etc.

Since there is a wooden horse in the film the story goes on long after the
Iliad finishes. The question is will Hollywood mess around with the plot and
place the death of Achilles after the sack of Troy.

Who plays Odysseus and will there be a sequel ?

Mike Williams

unread,
Nov 9, 2003, 1:28:21 AM11/9/03
to
Agamemnon wrote:
> "Petrushka" <fa...@see.signature.below> wrote in message
> Who plays Odysseus and will there be a sequel ?

Odysseus -Sean Bean
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0332452/combined

No word on Troy Story 2.


Agamemnon

unread,
Nov 9, 2003, 1:56:18 AM11/9/03
to

"Mike Williams" <mi...@nospam4me.com> wrote in message
news:3fadde86$0$3791$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...

Looks like they've got the story wrong already. Helen was abducted 10 years
before the siege began. 2 years later in 1201 BC was the first gathering at
Aulis when they couldn't find Troy and 8 years after that was the siege.


Mike Williams

unread,
Nov 9, 2003, 4:47:41 AM11/9/03
to

Hey, if they can't get Jessica Lynch's story right as it was happening, what
hope is there for Helen after 3000 years?


o8TY

unread,
Nov 9, 2003, 7:35:18 AM11/9/03
to
"Chris Camfield" <ccam...@DELETEMEemail.com> wrote in message
news:di5qqv8e10n9epn52...@4ax.com...

As if anyone really cares.


Henry Hooray

unread,
Nov 9, 2003, 6:45:31 PM11/9/03
to
Just to say Hello to Agamemnon in this forum - we're acquaintances from
another place :o)

And, FWIW, Odysseus was always my favourite - Agamemnon never came anywhere
near the Top Ten. How come you chose this name?

Henry.

"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
news:bok9d2$2rv$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...


> Troy was the name of the central citadel founded by Tros. Ilium was the
name
> of the new city suburb founded by his son Ilus which surrounded it. The
> archaeology confirms the existence of both.
>

tejas

unread,
Nov 9, 2003, 11:28:31 PM11/9/03
to

"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
news:bokoek$f1d$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...

Damn, I was hoping for a Musical with Peter Schickele doing the muzak.

Ted


tejas

unread,
Nov 9, 2003, 11:33:59 PM11/9/03
to

"John S. Watson" <jswa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1979e644.03110...@posting.google.com...

Kurt Vonnegut's from Troy, NY? Perhaps he did the screenplay..

Ted


Michael Siemon

unread,
Nov 9, 2003, 11:42:41 PM11/9/03
to
In article <XyErb.21109$9M3....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"tejas" <tbsa...@infionline.net> wrote:

> "John S. Watson" <jswa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1979e644.03110...@posting.google.com...
> > "Henry Hooray" <c2mi...@sneakeLEAVETHISOUTmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<bog0l4$8gn$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> > > S'got to be the 'j' picture
> > > (http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006j.jpg) - just as I always
> > > imagined the greatest of the Greek heroes to look. An absolute spitting
> > > image :o)
> >
> > Maybe when it comes out, the company, that made the guy who's
> > playing "Hector" here, turn into "The Hulk", will have
> > added a lot of speical effects to make Mr. Pitt look less pouty and GQ?

But, but, but... Achilles _is_ a pouty brat -- divine and all that,
but definitely pouty and definitely a brat, with some slight degree
of redemption in Book 24 when he receives Priam and actually comes
across as human, in the good sense. Homer _may_ in some sense
celebrate Achilles' good qualities -- but he mostly takes his theme
from Peleiades' hissy fit (aka _me:nis_). That ordinary mortals need
to hunker down when the celebreties go into their ego trips is, IMO,
a pretty obvious subtext...

Thersites, where are you when we need you?

Mike Williams

unread,
Nov 10, 2003, 3:16:13 AM11/10/03
to
tejas wrote:
> Damn, I was hoping for a Musical with Peter Schickele doing the muzak.

No, but there's already this: http://www.davidspicer.com/paris.htm

Agamemnon

unread,
Nov 10, 2003, 5:38:34 AM11/10/03
to

"Henry Hooray" <c2mi...@sneakeLEAVETHISOUTmail.com> wrote in message
news:bomjbj$d8k$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...

> Just to say Hello to Agamemnon in this forum - we're acquaintances from
> another place :o)
>
> And, FWIW, Odysseus was always my favourite - Agamemnon never came
anywhere
> near the Top Ten. How come you chose this name?

I liked Sean Connerys portrayal of him in Time Bandits.

Agamemnon

unread,
Nov 10, 2003, 5:50:30 AM11/10/03
to

"Michael Siemon" <mlsi...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:mlsiemon-D93307...@typhoon.sonic.net...

Achilles is supposed to be a 63 year old man when the siege ended. He was
born in the same year as the voyage of the Argo according to Apollodorus and
he had a son of his own Neoptolomaios.

Helen was about 30 years old when she was abducted and at the time she had a
9 year old daughter (so she cant have been younger than 25) so by the end of
the siege she would have been close to 50. But I expect Hollywood will take
no notice of the facts as usual, but then again homer took no notice of the
age of Penelope who was about the same age as Helen and would have been 60
when Odysseus returned, so in all likelihood the suitors in the Odyssey were
really suitors for Odysseus daughter by the same name who has been written
out of the story.

David E. Latane

unread,
Nov 10, 2003, 7:36:42 AM11/10/03
to

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, tejas wrote:

> > I wonder why they decided to call it "Troy" instead of "The Iliad"?
>
> Kurt Vonnegut's from Troy, NY? Perhaps he did the screenplay..

Nah, they wanted to capture the Troy Donohue fans.

D. Latane


J. Del Col

unread,
Nov 10, 2003, 12:49:06 PM11/10/03
to
"David E. Latane" <dla...@mail1.vcu.edu> wrote in message news:<Pine.SGI.4.33.031110...@neptune.vcu.edu>...

And when the DVD comes out, they can include bonus items such as ads for Trojans.

J. Del Col

Kraig Hausmann

unread,
Dec 1, 2003, 12:57:56 PM12/1/03
to

"rms" <rsqu...@flash.net> wrote in message
news:fGhqb.19825$mo4....@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com...
> Ok, it stars Brad Pitt, and it's been magnified to a scale even beyond any
> wild dream of Homer, but who cares!!! A classic book on film, I was
> over-joyed to see this trailer before the Matrix Revolutions movie. Great
> stuff. The website listed was www.troymovie.com
>
> rms
>
Find the quiet place ... find the quiet place ... find the quiet place ....
make it stop! Please, make it stop.
[sobs]


0 new messages