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C.M. Codrington

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Jun 15, 2009, 6:09:48 PM6/15/09
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Thanks to Rita and Richard Oliver for their helpful information on
Arrowroot.

I had been aware of the importance of Arrowroot on St Vincent ....St.
Vincent apparently produced one of the purest in the world and was used as
the standard against which others were rated.

But I am collecting information on something poorly documented and often
minimized by the literature which is a successful sector of substantial
arrowroot cultivation in Eastern Jamaica after 1820 up to 1865. I know it
was there, but am trying to learn who the merchants were and who likely
bought most of it in England....

I'm always getting myself into these obscurities....hooo haaa

Thanks again

Cod

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Hi Chris,

I know how the ARROWROOT used to ship from the Caribbean to

the UK, & America, My grandFathers on both side of the family, had Arrowroot


Factories, after pulling the Arrowroot, it was skinned then put through a

mill, grounded , and taken out some of the starch as they are very starchy>

and dried in the sun then Bagged up in thick white bags , and sent abroad,

I used to see my older families do that when I was about 9 years old a

younger , but I didn't know what it was for until I was 9 , then after my

first Grandfather died the other one Used to do it with the other family,

Then Grand-dad, got to old to work, and most of the younger Generation

didn't want to work so hard, but I still have some Family in St Vincent,

that still do ship Arrowroot abroad, there are lots of things to do to it

before drying it, I used to like to watch them doing it, and wanted to help

but seeing I was a Girl, they protect girls in St Vincent, back then, but

things changed up a lot now, last time I was home, 2000,

I saw one of my Niece & her Husband doing it to ship up here to the UK to

make Biscuits, they used to make Biscuits out of it to, but its their

living, so they sell most of it, Interesting really,

Rita Henry MURPHY

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Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:57 PM

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> Hi Dorothy

>

> Yes thank you I'd love to see the piece in Hall's book

>

> The rest I'll follow through on. I had made the original discovery of the

> firm via a Google search, I guess the world is just scanning like mad

> these

> days!

>

> One thing I'm trying to break through on is who they traded through in

> Liverpool but imagine that will have to be studied in Jamaica or British

> Archives. Also how the arrowroot was being shipped from eastern Jamaica

> period 1800-1865...haven't found a clue on that one....

>

> Anyway when you have time would be most thankful and nice to see you are

> busy

>

> With things enjoyable

>

> Speak soon

>

> ChrisCod

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Jun 15, 2009, 10:59:35 PM6/15/09
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Hi Chris

My great grandfather grew arrowroot in St. Vincent from about 1880 to 1900.  I had never heard that it was grown in Jamaica, but after the collapse of his plantation venture he styled himself as a "General Commission Agent" and according to his stationery, one of his ports of call was Kingston, Jamaica.  Maybe he had something to do with the Jamaica arrowroot trade but it's after your timeframe and anyway I have no idea what he traded and only a hazy idea who his connnections in London were.

Thanks again

Cod

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Hi Chris,

Rita Henry MURPHY

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Richard Oliver

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Jun 16, 2009, 3:35:13 AM6/16/09
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Chris
I will pass this onto my relative. Maybe he can shed some light on the
situation in Jamaica.
I would have thought it possible any Jamaican producer would use the same
routes and agents as those on St Vincent?
regards
Richard

Lald...@nc.rr.com

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Jun 16, 2009, 1:16:41 PM6/16/09
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Not sure if this is of interest, but here is an 1880 discussion of
arrowroot and its cultivation, mentioning Jamaica, its introduction
into England in 1732, and various details, illustrations, etc.

http://tinyurl.com/m9elmq

There also is some historical data, including a little on arrowroot
production, in "Reports on the Present State of Her Majesty's
Colonial Possessions For the Year 1870" at Google Books. This has
quite a lot about Jamaica in general, regarding laws passed, etc. One
presumes there are earlier years of this annual available somewhere.

In 1861, so I read, the price obtained for St. Vincent arrowroot is
threefold the price of Jamaica arrowroot in the English market.

For those historians on the list, I've also stumbled upon a work
entitled "On the social and economic position and prospects of the
British West India."

Cheers,
Laura

Lald...@nc.rr.com

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Jun 16, 2009, 1:23:46 PM6/16/09
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Cod,
You've probably already seen this-- an 1867 advert for Jamaica
arrowroot mentioning some history of one plantation at http://
tinyurl.com/ly7vsq.

Best, Laura

lwa...@comcast.net

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Jun 23, 2009, 10:40:22 AM6/23/09
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This tome might be of interest to anyone looking for original
sources. It is an 1851 publication of an 1671 publication--full view
on Google Books.

A DESCRIPTION AND HISTORY
OF

THE ISLAND OF JAMAICA,

COMPRISING AN ACCOUNT OF ITS SOIL, CLIMATE, AND PRODUC-
TIONS, SHEWING ITS VALUE AND IMPORTANCE AS AN
AGRICULTURAL COUNTRY. AND A DESIRABLE PLACE
OF RESIDENCE FOR CERTAIN CLASSES
OF SETTLERS.

Reprinted, (it is believer! for the first time.) from the great

Work, " An Account of America, or the New World"

by John Ogilby, Esq., Master of the Revels in

Ireland; first published m the t/enr 1671.

with Preliminary Chapter and Nnt.i-s, to

connect the Work with our own

times;

BY

WILLIAM WEMYSS ANDERSON,

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