Orientation of plat
Cheryl Freeman
Would greatly appreciate it if someone could take a look at the plat
at
http://www.genattic.com/e262.htm
and tell me which way compass north is. In the description of the
plat, the landowners on the right corner at about 1 to 2 o'clock
(John and Dennis Freeman) are said to bound on the NW, Landowner at
bottom (6 o'clock) is said to bound SE and there is what appears to
be an error pointing to this landowner with "NW" written next to it.
I an trying to figure where thi granee's land was, and understanding
this in terms of the proximity to the other landowners will help me.
This picture is all I have as the state archives sent it to me. The
layout is as it was priinted for me from microfilm.
Thanks,
Chris Nelson
Cheryl
In the center of the map is a stylized arrow which has an N next to
it. So North is at the bottom of the page.
All maps have to have an arrow pointing to the North. This line is
not part of any of the property lines.
Chris Nelson Palmdale Calif.
ecne...@roadrunner.com
ka7suz
> Would greatly appreciate it if someone could take a look at the plat
> at
>
> http://www.genattic.com/e262.htm
>
> and tell me which way compass north is. In the description of the
> plat, the landowners on the right corner at about 1 to 2 o'clock
> (John and Dennis Freeman) are said to bound on the NW, Landowner at
> bottom (6 o'clock) is said to bound SE and there is what appears to
> be an error pointing to this landowner with "NW" written next to it.
>
> I an trying to figure where thi granee's land was, and understanding
> this in terms of the proximity to the other landowners will help me.
>
> This picture is all I have as the state archives sent it to me. The
> layout is as it was priinted for me from microfilm.
>
> Che...@genattic.com
North is at the top of the page on most maps. The references to NW
and SE probably describe the direction of property lines.
JoAnn
Wes Groleau
Cheryl Freeman wrote:
> Would greatly appreciate it if someone could take a look at the plat
> at
> http://www.genattic.com/e262.htm
> and tell me which way compass north is. In the description of the
As someone else mentioned, there is a downward arrow pointing north.
A surveyor would probably show true north. If you can find the location
on maps.google.com, you can use the stream shown to help figure out
which way is which.
Also, the people who maintain the land records today can probably help.
(In my area, that's the assessor's office)
--
Wes Groleau
"Beware the barrenness of a busy life."
-- George Verwer
Wes Groleau <Grolea...@FreeShell.org>
Keith Nuttle
Wes Groleau wrote:
> Cheryl Freeman wrote:
>
> > Would greatly appreciate it if someone could take a look at the plat
> > at
> > http://www.genattic.com/e262.htm
> > and tell me which way compass north is. In the description of the
>
> As someone else mentioned, there is a downward arrow pointing north.
> A surveyor would probably show true north. If you can find the location
> on maps.google.com, you can use the stream shown to help figure out
> which way is which.
>
> Also, the people who maintain the land records today can probably help.
> (In my area, that's the assessor's office)
You do not say which state the property was located, but some states
you can obtain plat maps for each township in the state. They were
usually generated prior to the census. These maps list the
ownership of every property in the township. Even if you can not
find a plat map from the time of the deed, you may be able to find
the owner's name or a family name that can be traced back to Levi
Freeman. In my own case there are several points where the farm has
been handed down through several generations.
Keith Nuttle <keith_...@sbcglobal.net>
Cheryl Freeman
> Cheryl Freeman wrote:
>
> > Would greatly appreciate it if someone could take a look at the plat
> > at
> > http://www.genattic.com/e262.htm and tell me which way compass
> > north is. In the description of the
>
> A surveyor would probably show true north. If you can find the location on
> maps.google.com, you can use the stream shown to help figure out which way
> is which.
>
> Also, the people who maintain the land records today can probably help.
> (In my area, that's the assessor's office)
>
Wes, it is such an old grant that I hadn't thought about seeing if
anyone in the tax assessors office could help. Thank you for that
suggestion. I have found the stream shown on GNIS, World Wind, etc,
but it is is a longish stream that flows south, then turns to the
easteast. I am 90% certain that I have the location of the land and
if the downward arrow points north, that matches what I do know :)
Thank you,
Cheryl Freeman
"Cheryl Freeman" <che...@genattic.com>
donkelly
Can't tell from the orientation if the plat lines run NS and
EW.....like other properties, some owners may own land that is
mis-oriented from the norm and do not conform to traditional
Township or Townland plat lines.
We assume of maps of course that north is straight up from the plat.
donkelly
"donkelly" <ocol...@comcast.net>
Keith Nuttle
One thing that is going to make this difficult is that the plot of
ground in question may have been bought up, divided, and lost its
identity to the surrounding farms. I have several great x
grandparents, whose farms have disappeared in this way.
Even if the original farm has lost its identity, you may actually be
able to see it in still existing fence lines in Google Earth. I
know of one road that has not existed in over a century that you can
still trace in the fence lines.
You need to check with the county for definite identification.
Keith Nuttle <keith_...@sbcglobal.net>
Barbara McLeod
> You do not say which state the property was located, but some states
> you can obtain plat maps for each township in the state. They were
> usually generated prior to the census. These maps list the
> ownership of every property in the township. Even if you can not
> find a plat map from the time of the deed, you may be able to find
> the owner's name or a family name that can be traced back to Levi
> Freeman. In my own case there are several points where the farm has
> been handed down through several generations.
>
> Keith Nuttle <keith_...@sbcglobal.net>
Keith, I am not the individual to whom the above was addressed;
however, I am very much interested in obtaining such plat maps from
Duplin County, NC. To whom do I write and in the letter do I simply
request plat maps of the specific ancestor's lands?
Do I enclose a search fee?
Thank you for a reply.
Barbara Mac
Barbara McLeod <1brow...@gmail.com>
Wes Groleau
Cheryl Freeman wrote:
> > Wes Groleau wrote:
> > As someone else mentioned, there is a downward arrow pointing north.
> > A surveyor would probably show true north. If you can find the location on
> > maps.google.com, you can use the stream shown to help figure out which way
> > is which.
I left out part. You were asking for compass north.
Since you know the approximate location, you can find on a
topographic map in the margin an illustration of the angles between
true north, grid north, and magnetic north.
--
Wes Groleau
Free speech has its limits
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Wes Groleau <Grolea...@FreeShell.org>
Wes Groleau
Keith Nuttle wrote:
> Even if the original farm has lost its identity, you may actually be
> able to see it in still existing fence lines in Google Earth. I
> know of one road that has not existed in over a century that you can
> still trace in the fence lines.
Check also the county and state for a GIS system. Indiana, for
example, has aerial photos with higher resolution than Google, and
it has older aerial photos available.
--
Wes Groleau
Posted Last Episodes of =E2=80=9CMuzzy II=E2=80=9D
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Wes Groleau <Grolea...@FreeShell.org>
Keith Nuttle
I am most familiar with those states that were carved out of the
Northwest Territories in the first part of the 1800's. But every
state has a way of tracking property owners. (We must collect
property tax)
Make sure you specify the date of the deed for the property, the
more recent will be in the register of deeds office, the old ones
may be there; or in the library, or history society.
For the old deeds and plat maps check the following groups.
The historical/genealogical society of Duplin County N.C.
fuss...@earthlink.net seems to be connect to the historical section
of the library.
Duplin County, NC Register of Deeds. (Google their online website)
contact information form their site dbri...@duplincountync.com
Hope this helps.
bob gillis
Barbara McLeod wrote:
> Keith Nuttle wrote:
> > You do not say which state the property was located, but some states
> > you can obtain plat maps for each township in the state. They were
> > usually generated prior to the census. These maps list the
> > ownership of every property in the township. Even if you can not
> > find a plat map from the time of the deed, you may be able to find
> > the owner's name or a family name that can be traced back to Levi
> > Freeman. In my own case there are several points where the farm has
> > been handed down through several generations.
> >
snip
> I am very much interested in obtaining such plat maps from
> Duplin County, NC. To whom do I write and in the letter do I simply
> request plat maps of the specific ancestor's lands?
Go to
and continue on the site.
bob gillis
bob gillis <robert...@verizon.net>
Cheryl Freeman
Thanks to all who provided answers for my question and gave me some
great ideas. This land in in Kershaw District SC. I have not been
able to find a later deed/conveyance for this land. The land of the
2 adjoinees to the west is now part of Fort Jackson in SC. I've
Google Earthed this area, looked at in on WorldWind, and even driven
as close as I could get (my last trip was before I got GPS),
although the area is still fairly undeveloped.
Part of my puzzle is that Levi was granted this land in 1845, and
paid taxes on it through at least 1849. However, in 1850 he was
enumerated in neighboring Richland District. One of the adjoinees
to his Kershaw property was enumerated on the 1850 US Census in both
Kerhshaw and Richland Districts, in the next household to Levi in
Richland. Maybe they both moved together - or maybe the county line
was as unclear in 1850 as it is today! I've read the instructions to
the census takers, which didn't shed any new light.
In the 1860's, Levi bought and sold land in Richland District - but
the deeds were not recorded until 1880, when the grantor sold the
land. So I do keep hoping that I will find a subsequent deed
containing a chain of ownership for the land in Kershaw.