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cash...@aol.com

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Aug 22, 2009, 1:16:07 PM8/22/09
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FTM allows you to add additional fact titles. I have added each
different US census records such as 1800 Census, 1920 Census, as
well as those for Canadian records. Also, fact for Confirmation,
awards, marriage banns and newspaper articles (not obituaries. Also
different categories for Education, High School, College and
advanced education and many more that do not fit into any category
of facts used by FTM as normal.

Ley K O'Connor

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ka7suz

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Aug 22, 2009, 1:20:24 PM8/22/09
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> I want to see genealogy software that's capable of recording certain
> events related to slavery.

[snip]

> Most programs provide ways to record immigration records, but none
> have standing categories related specifically to slaves -- unless
> someone here knows of one?


Several of us have told you there is, but you prefer to stay with
FTM. Can't have it both ways, KBerry ;-)

JoAnn

ka7suz <ka7...@concentric.net>

Lesley Robertson

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Aug 23, 2009, 2:54:37 PM8/23/09
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> "ka7suz" <ka7...@concentric.net>


FTM allows a user to define new categories. I've used it myself to
add "owned by" for my own slave ancestors.

As far as I can see, software developers have to choose between
trying to cover all options (creating a programme that's huge,
expensive and will still miss something), being highly specific for
one type of ancestry (thereby limiting their market to those wholly
of that form of ancestry ) or producing a more general programme
with the option to add extra categories, as needed. The latter
selection seems to be the one that most companies, FTM inclused,
have made.

In defence of the OP, if one posts a query about how to do something
with a specific piece of software, and only gets back messages
saying "don't use that software", it can be as frustrating as asking
directions from someone at the side of the road only to be told
"don't start from here"!

Lesley Robertson

"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl>

bob gillis

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Aug 25, 2009, 11:11:54 AM8/25/09
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> In defence of the OP, if one posts a query about how to do something
> with a specific piece of software, and only gets back messages
> saying "don't use that software", it can be as frustrating as asking
> directions from someone at the side of the road only to be told
> "don't start from here"!
>
> Lesley Robertson


The replies on this thread about other programs indicate several
things:

1. Most responders do not use FTM but the programs that they do use
will do what Kberry wants to do. It is up to her to decide what to
do.q

2. Not many people, only one or two, that have followed this thread
appear to use FTM.

3. I did not and I do not think that others put down FTM.

And what is the OP?

bob gillis

bob gillis <robert...@verizon.net>

singhals

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Aug 25, 2009, 11:30:04 AM8/25/09
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> In defence of the OP, if one posts a query about how to do something
> with a specific piece of software, and only gets back messages
> saying "don't use that software", it can be as frustrating as asking
> directions from someone at the side of the road only to be told
> "don't start from here"!
>
> Lesley Robertson


True. "How do I [whatever] in MyProgram?" does not equal an inquiry
as to what program is better/worse/different than MyProgram.

Nor, for that matter, is it an invitation to tout another OS. (g)

Cheryl


[ There's no point in touting another OS. Everyone sensible
already knows there's Linux and then there's consumer-grade
schlock. - Mod <-- Grinning, ducking, and running ]

singhals <sing...@erols.com>

Ian Goddard

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Aug 25, 2009, 11:30:58 AM8/25/09
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> In defence of the OP, if one posts a query about how to do something
> with a specific piece of software, and only gets back messages
> saying "don't use that software", it can be as frustrating as asking
> directions from someone at the side of the road only to be told
> "don't start from here"!
>
> Lesley Robertson


In fact what the OP wrote was somewhat qualified by statements such
as: "But since I have to make that move anyway, I don't want to buy
the software no one likes." and "Unless someone knows of software
that allows me to incorporate my slave ancestry without resorting to
an Excel spreadsheet, I'll stick to Family Tree Maker."

The latter suggests to me that the OP is using FTM *and* Excel so
suggestions as to products which would eliminate Excel seemed
appropriate. It's also worth remembering that others who don't yet
have a "here" to start from may come to this thread and may
appreciate the wider discussion. Possibly L.L. Scott might be in
this category.


--
Ian

Hotmail is for spammers. Real mail address is igoddard
at nildram co uk

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Ian Goddard

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Aug 26, 2009, 3:03:09 PM8/26/09
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bob gillis wrote:

> And what is the OP?


Original Post(er)

J. Hugh Sullivan

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Aug 26, 2009, 3:07:08 PM8/26/09
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> True. "How do I [whatever] in MyProgram?" does not equal an inquiry
> as to what program is better/worse/different than MyProgram.
>
> Nor, for that matter, is it an invitation to tout another OS. (g)
>
> Cheryl Singhals <sing...@erols.com> wrote:


In defense of those of us who are guilty as charged...

I suspect many of us, like me, have tried just about every genealogy
program, past and present. We decided on one or more other programs
because FTM just doesn't stack up either in our experience or in
professional ratings. Its strength, as I learned through use, is
based mostly on the availability in stores.

One might also consider the fact that at least three other programs
are represented by people on this news group who can answer any
question about their program - FTM has not been one of those for
perhaps a decade.- I'm sure you remember Banner Blue and I'll never
forget old what's his name. I am personally aware that the three
are willing to make changes in their programs that benefit
genealogists

Please be gentle with me, Louisiana gal. I know Cheryl rhymes with
peril.

Hugh

Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan)

singhals

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Aug 27, 2009, 1:48:15 PM8/27/09
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> > In defence of the OP, if one posts a query about how to do something
> > with a specific piece of software, and only gets back messages
> > saying "don't use that software", it can be as frustrating as asking
> > directions from someone at the side of the road only to be told
> > "don't start from here"!
> >
> > Lesley Robertson
>
> In fact what the OP wrote was somewhat qualified by statements such
> as: "But since I have to make that move anyway, I don't want to buy
> the software no one likes." and "Unless someone knows of software
> that allows me to incorporate my slave ancestry without resorting to
> an Excel spreadsheet, I'll stick to Family Tree Maker."
>
> The latter suggests to me that the OP is using FTM *and* Excel so
> suggestions as to products which would eliminate Excel seemed
> appropriate. It's also worth remembering that others who don't yet
> have a "here" to start from may come to this thread and may
> appreciate the wider discussion. Possibly L.L. Scott might be in
> this category.
>
> Ian Goddard


Further to the discussion of the new FTM -- see
soc.genealogy.computing where there's a post today about FTM2010 and
GenSmarts. It may not matter to the oP, but it's a known issue.

Cheryl

singhals <sing...@erols.com>

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