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M.Sjostrom

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In 1383 and so, things really came to distress in Portugal:
at least three parties, each supported its own candidate for monarchy, and were at loggerheads on so many levels. Old fabric of highest nobility and its internat network were broken to many pieces.

What was one of biggest rearrangements: so many families escaped from Portugal, settling usually to Castile. Generally, families who were strongly in the losiong parties, had to flee.

There was the nationalist party, around dom Joao mestere da Avis. But, I have an impression that it had highest concentration of relative upstarts. When they won, it thusly meant that much of the hitherto hihest nobility fled, and Portugal lost several of its highest families, whereas Castile received a big extra dose of very high blood...
So, in forthcoming centuries, highest Spanish families had a disproportionately high portion of Portuguese blood in their veins.

There was the ultra-legitimist party, around the legitimist queen dona Brites (Beatriz) and her mother, the dowager queen Leonor.

And there was the nationalist-legitimist party, around infante dom Joao, son of the late king Pedro's somewhat controversial marriage with dona Ines de Castro....
plenty of highest nobility were in this party.

-----------------


Some upstart history:
dona Ines de Castro died in 1355 (murdered). But, her relatives were favored in several ways in the next decades. Those were from Galician-Portuguese not-so-high nobility - a good family, seemingly, but not exactly magnates earlier. And, king Fernando, the eldest and legitimate son of king Pedro, had actually himself married dona Leonor, a cousin of the late dona Ines. Leonor had already been married earlier, but the new king want5ed her as wife (life his father had wanted her cousin).
These two marriages made the way of that 'upstart' family to highest circles.

Children of dona Ines' aunt, were very favored in the royal court: high marriages in some highest Portuguese nobility for her grandchildren (whose parents had usually already married before the gold rain made to their family), and one of the aunt's sons became rico-homem and one became a Count.
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00461507&tree=LEO&displayoption=all&generations=5
When things came to solution, a portion of those family members remained in Portugal, whereas a number of other family members had to flee to Castile.
so, high nobility in both countries have them among ancestors.


Ines de Castro's daughter, infanta Brites, countess of Albuquerque, had deceased already before this troubled time, having marrued a castilian. In effect, her issue continued via her daughter, dona Leonor de albuquerque, who for long resided in Castile, and was married to the younger legitimate son of the king of Castile (the eldest son and heir managed to marry a Lancaster heiress from England, they becoming princes of Asturia). after some unusual coincidences, the then middle-aged dona Leonor found herself as queen consort of kingdom of Aragon, relatively far away from Portugal.
That position was the stepping-stpone for her to get her own youngest daughter to married to the future King of Portugal, dom Duarte.... so, that blood after several decades, found its way back to the Portuguese throne...
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005054&tree=LEO


queen Leonor's son of her annulled first marriage, was to be ancestor of several Portuguese and Spanish noble families:
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00140194&tree=LEO


-------------------------

the winner, the Avis king, elevated people (his supporters) from lower echelons to high positions, the country having lost some of its earlier high nobility. One telling example is the chief beneficiary, the most impoortant ally and marshal of the new king, i.e Nuno Alvares Pereira, from a doubly-bastard branch of an earlier highly noble family:
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00346829&tree=LEO


-------------------------

queen dona Beatriz did not manage to produce surviving family, therefore her descent petered out and was not long claiming any throne.

The family of the nationalist-legitimist claimant, dom Joao, later created duke of Valencia, moved to Castile, where they married generally. Their descendants are part of highest Castilian nobility.
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00056373&tree=LEO

-------------------------

one of leading families of the camp of nationalist-legitimists = the party of infante dom Joa, the Duke,
was the Cunha branch who had held the lordship of Tabua/Tavoa.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.genealogy.medieval/msg/a6b1a077ea6715f6
This family had risen to higher echelons in earlier decades of 1300s.
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00461280&tree=LEO

Its head was dom Martim, also known as Martim Vasques III,
whom castilians later made Count of Valencia de Don Juan.

dom Martim had married an important heiress as his first wife,
but then, in exile in Castile, he was allowed to marry the elder legitimate daughter of his chief, the infante dom Joao - i.e, Martyim married dona Maria Brites de Portugal, who inherited very much of the infante's castilian properties, such as the castle of Valencia....
Both his marriages produced children.
Generaly, issue of the second marriage, the Portuguese royal, remained in Castile (they were born there) and married to castilian nobility;
while a portion of children of dom Martim's first (not royal but noble) marriage were in castile and some managed to go to Portugal.


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for example, the elderly bastard daughter of the late Portuguese king dom Afonso, and her elderly castilian husband, died just in these difficult revolt years, in Lisbon, Portugal. Much of their issue then lived in Castile
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00264713&tree=LEO


another example of someone having entered highest echelon of the Portuguese nobility is this Afonso, bastard son of a neighboring king, who created a place in Portugal for his future family by marrying a bastard daughter of a Portuguese king:
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00056360&tree=LEO

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One feature which strikes here, is that the usually somewhat high number of bastards of iberian kings, constantly, meant that high nobility was filled with people who had some king in their relatively close ancestry.


Francisco Tavares de Almeida

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what is rare. Thank you.

1383-1385 was not only a distress and a rearranjement in the old
families. It was a true revolution socially and politically. It
determined an ascent of the "bourgeoisie" specially the merchants who
supported most of the war's costs, but mainly from the 'letrados' (the
learned people). The interventions of dr. João das Regras, a jurist
not noble, was decisive in Lisbon and his perfomance in the
'Côrtes' (Parliament) assured the throne to D. João I. [he was raised
to nobility and later his daughter inherited the lordship of Cascais
and married a son of an Infant of Portugal, duke of Medina del Campo,
and a granddaughter married the 1st count of Monsanto]
It was also a revolution in the peninsular art of war as the
'condestável' D. Nuno Álvares Pereira who had been in England some
time, acquired the tactics used before at Crécy and Ajincourt and was
able to win several battles against superior forces much stronger
specially in cavalry. In the decisive battle of Aljubarrota some 7.000
portuguese defeated an army of 32.000. English bowmen (archers?)
fought with the portuguese and their role was important.
Politically it marked a starting point in the progressive substitution
of the kingdom as the the king's property by the concepts of nation
and country.

But the 'rearrangement' of the old families was not so signifiant.
What mostly happened among the higher nobility was that the elder
people followed the party of Castile based on the feudal right while
the younger followed the 'portuguese' party. Just to give two
examples, from the brothers and brothers in law of D. Nuno Álvares
Pereira - his father had 25 identified children - only 2 or 3 followed
the portuguese party. In the important Vasconcelos family while the
head of the family supported D. Juan of Castile, two younger sons
commanded the left wing at Aljubarrota.
So, the *new* nobility, with the exception of dr. João das Regras -
and he did not received any title - were scions of the old nobility;
same blood, same names.

I do not think that the percent of portuguese blood was very
disproportionated in castilian high nobility. Along peninsular history
the ennemity of Portugal and Castile was almost constant and if not
with the intensity of 1383-1385, always portuguese disatisfied or
rebellious ran to Castile - maybe a rather unknown example is Magellan
(Fernão de Magalhães) who after lefting his military command after a
fight with with his commander, went to India with the 1st viceroy and
was sent back with a very negative information and was unenployed in
Portugal when he left and offered his services to Castile - but the
contrary was also true: along the history castilians in trouble ran to
Portugal and most of the portuguese high nobility has also castilian
blood. Both are mixed and not very disproportionately.

Regards,
Francisco
(Portugal)

On 30 Mar, 10:24, "M.Sjostrom" <q...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In 1383 and so, things really came to distress in Portugal:
> at least three parties, each supported its own candidate for monarchy, and were at loggerheads on so many levels. Old fabric of highest nobility and its internat network were broken to many pieces.
>
> What was one of biggest rearrangements: so many families escaped from Portugal, settling usually to Castile. Generally, families who were strongly in the losiong parties, had to flee.
>
> There was the nationalist party, around dom Joao mestere da Avis. But, I have an impression that it had highest concentration of relative upstarts. When they won, it thusly meant that much of the hitherto hihest nobility fled, and Portugal lost several of its highest families, whereas Castile received a big extra dose of very high blood...
> So, in forthcoming centuries, highest Spanish families had a disproportionately high portion of Portuguese blood in their veins.
>
> There was the ultra-legitimist party, around the legitimist queen dona Brites (Beatriz) and her mother, the dowager queen Leonor.
>
> And there was the nationalist-legitimist party, around infante dom Joao, son of the late king Pedro's somewhat controversial marriage with dona Ines de Castro....
> plenty of highest nobility were in this party.
>
> -----------------
>
> Some upstart history:
> dona Ines de Castro died in 1355 (murdered). But, her relatives were favored in several ways in the next decades. Those were from Galician-Portuguese not-so-high nobility - a good family, seemingly, but not exactly magnates earlier. And, king Fernando, the eldest and legitimate son of king Pedro, had actually himself married dona Leonor, a cousin of the late dona Ines. Leonor had already been married earlier, but the new king want5ed her as wife (life his father had wanted her cousin).
> These two marriages made the way of that 'upstart' family to highest circles.
>

> Children of dona Ines' aunt, were very favored in the royal court: high marriages in some highest Portuguese nobility for her grandchildren (whose parents had usually already married before the gold rain made to their family), and one of the aunt's sons became rico-homem  and one became a Count.http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00461507&tree=LEO&displa...


> When things came to solution, a portion of those family members remained in Portugal, whereas a number of other family members had to flee to Castile.
> so, high nobility in both countries have them among ancestors.
>
> Ines de Castro's daughter, infanta Brites, countess of Albuquerque, had deceased already before this troubled time, having marrued a castilian. In effect, her issue continued via her daughter, dona Leonor de albuquerque, who for long resided in Castile, and was married to the younger legitimate son of the king of Castile (the eldest son and heir managed to marry a Lancaster heiress from England, they becoming princes of Asturia). after some unusual coincidences, the then middle-aged dona Leonor found herself as queen consort of kingdom of Aragon, relatively far away from Portugal.

> That position was the stepping-stpone for her to get her own youngest daughter to married to the future King of Portugal, dom Duarte.... so, that blood after several decades, found its way back to the Portuguese throne...http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005054&tree=LEO


>
> queen Leonor's son of her annulled first marriage, was to be ancestor of several Portuguese and Spanish noble families:http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00140194&tree=LEO
>
> -------------------------
>
> the winner, the Avis king, elevated people (his supporters) from lower echelons to high positions, the country having lost some of its earlier high nobility. One telling example is the chief beneficiary, the most impoortant ally and marshal of the new king, i.e Nuno Alvares Pereira, from a doubly-bastard branch of an earlier highly noble family:http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00346829&tree=LEO
>
> -------------------------
>
> queen dona Beatriz did not manage to produce surviving family, therefore her descent petered out and was not long claiming any throne.
>

> The family of the nationalist-legitimist claimant, dom Joao, later created duke of Valencia, moved to Castile, where they married generally. Their descendants are part of highest Castilian nobility.http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00056373&tree=LEO


>
> -------------------------
>
> one of leading families of the camp of nationalist-legitimists = the party of infante dom Joa, the Duke,

> was the Cunha branch who had held the lordship of Tabua/Tavoa.http://groups.google.com/group/soc.genealogy.medieval/msg/a6b1a077ea6...
> This family had risen to higher echelons in earlier decades of 1300s.http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00461280&tree=LEO


>
> Its head was dom Martim, also known as Martim Vasques III,
> whom castilians later made Count of Valencia de Don Juan.
>
> dom Martim had married an important heiress as his first wife,
> but then, in exile in Castile, he was allowed to marry the elder legitimate daughter of his chief, the infante dom Joao - i.e, Martyim married dona Maria Brites de Portugal, who inherited very much of the infante's castilian properties, such as the castle of Valencia....
> Both his marriages produced children.
> Generaly, issue of the second marriage, the Portuguese royal, remained in Castile (they were born there) and married to castilian nobility;
> while a portion of children of dom Martim's first (not royal but noble) marriage were in castile and some managed to go to Portugal.
>
> ----------------
>

> for example, the elderly bastard daughter of the late Portuguese king dom Afonso, and her elderly castilian husband, died just in these difficult revolt years, in Lisbon, Portugal. Much of their issue then lived in Castilehttp://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00264713&tree=LEO

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"....The interventions of dr. João das Regras, a jurist not noble, was decisive in Lisbon and his perfomance in the 'Côrtes' (Parliament) assured the throne to D. João I. [he was raised to nobility and later his daughter inherited the lordship of Cascais and married a son of an Infant of Portugal, duke of Medina del Campo, and a granddaughter married the 1st count of Monsanto] ..."


have I understood correctly
that this 'upstart', Joao das Regras, no doubt as consequence of his success in 1383..85 events, managed then (but not earlier) to marry noblewoman Leonor de Girao e da Cunha,
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00027941&tree=LEO&displayoption=all&generations=3
one of daughters of the 'opposing-party' leader, dom Martim conde de Valenza born of his first (non-royal) marriage
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00319456&tree=LEO&displayoption=all&generations=3
- and Regras died not too long afterwards, and the highly-born widow married the portuguese lord of Cadaval
??

and that Regras' daughter of that very marriage, Branca da Cunha (who did not use the Regras name of her father... is there some doubt of paternity?)
was the one who received (why ? paternal inheritance ? did Cascais belong to Regras himself ?) the lordship of Cascais
and married dom Afonso, one of the bastards of Duke dom Joao, the nationalist-legitimist claimant.... (whose duchy seems to have been Valencia de Campos, so I dunno what that Medina del Campo is)
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00299886&tree=LEO&displayoption=all&generations=3
??

and that the latter couple's daughter and heiress was dona Isabel da Cunha, heiress of Cascais,
who married Alvaro de Castro, count of Monsanto
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00416257&tree=LEO
??


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lords of the Ferreira family:

how attestedly is known the precise kinship between dona Guiomar, wife of Joao Afonso Teles Menezes, the count of Barcelos;
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00461509&tree=LEO
and
Rui Gil de Vilalobos
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00482507&tree=LEO
????

was dona Guiomar a maternal granddaughter of said Rui Gil, being daughter of his daughter Maria and her husband, the lord of Ferreira ??
is this ascertained ?

or is there actually any attestation of any kinship between them?

and what were dona Guiomar's authentic names, bynames, in her contemporary sources ???
was she a Pacheco in contemporary texts, or a Rodrigues de Vilalobos ?


Francisco Tavares de Almeida

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To many questions for my time and my knowledge. Please see below.

On 30 Mar, 14:00, "M.Sjostrom" <q...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "....The interventions of dr. João das Regras, a jurist not noble, was decisive in Lisbon and his perfomance in the 'Côrtes' (Parliament) assured the throne to D. João I. [he was raised to nobility and later his daughter inherited the lordship of Cascais and married a son of an Infant of Portugal, duke of Medina del Campo, and a granddaughter married the 1st count of Monsanto] ..."
>
> have I understood correctly

>  that this 'upstart', Joao das Regras, no doubt as consequence of his success in 1383..85 events, managed then (but not earlier) to marry noblewoman Leonor de Girao e da Cunha,http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00027941&tree=LEO&displa...
>  one of daughters of the 'opposing-party' leader, dom Martim conde de Valenza born of his first (non-royal) marriagehttp://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00319456&tree=LEO&displa...


> - and Regras died not too long afterwards, and the highly-born widow married the portuguese lord of Cadaval
> ??

Almost right.
Martim Vasques da Cunha, 7th lord of Tábua, was a Rico-Homem (ancient
title that later disapeared) of king D. Fernando (1345-1383) and after
the king's death followed the party of queen D. Leonor and went to
Castile. He was an important magnate in Portugal, also lord of
Lafões, Besteiros, Penalva, Lousada, Pinheiro, Angeja, Bemposta, etc.
but not titled and not a "Dom". In Castile he was made the 1st count
of Valencia de Campos - sometime called Valencia de Don Juan - and as
a titled grandee he had the right to be treated by "Dom"; in his case
it was not an inherited honour and was not transmissible (could be
used in each generation by the count's children but not the
grandchildren similarly to the english honourable).

>
> and that Regras'  daughter of that very marriage, Branca da Cunha (who did not use the Regras name of her father... is there some doubt of paternity?)

No doubt at all. In Portugal was quite common to use the mother's
surname, rarely for the elder male, sometimes for other males,
frequently by females.

> was the one who received (why ? paternal inheritance ? did Cascais belong to Regras himself ?) the lordship of Cascais

I am not sure about the Cascais lordship. The portuguese custom - not
the law because there were more exceptions than (...?) - was that
women inherited and transmited titles, honours and rights whenever
there was no male heir, in their own right but not in personal use
(sorry if I am not clear but really english is not my strongest
point). It was very common that an honour, a simple job or even a
lordship was granted to the man who will marry the girl 'due to the
girl's father services'; or even a grant to a man 'as a reward of his
father-in-law services".
Probably Cascais was before of a follower of queen D. Leonor and I am
quite sure that it was granted as a reward of dr. João das Regras's
services but I do not know exactly to whom it was granted.
In high or courtier nobility the king's permission was necessary to
all marriages - sometimes decided by the king - and was normally
granted with a gift of money or even a lordship and this could well be
the case.

> and married dom Afonso, one of the bastards of Duke dom Joao, the nationalist-legitimist claimant.... (whose duchy seems to have been Valencia de Campos, so I dunno what that Medina del Campo is)http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00299886&tree=LEO&displa...
> ??
>
Medina del Campo was my mistake. Writing out of memory I made a
confusion with Valencia de Campos.
Please note that the bride was an heir of Valencia de Campos and
whoever her husband was, if noble could well be the next count of
Valencia de Campos. As he was an Infant he was made a duke, something
already common in Castile but not in Portugal where the first dukes
were the children of king John I, a clear english tradition brought by
queen Philippa of Lancaster.

> and that the latter couple's daughter and heiress was dona Isabel da Cunha, heiress of Cascais,
> who married Alvaro de Castro, count of Monsantohttp://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00416257&tree=LEO
> ??

Right.

Francisco Tavares de Almeida

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On 31 Mar, 10:29, Francisco Tavares de Almeida
<francisco.tavaresdealme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please note that the bride was an heir of Valencia de Campos and
> whoever her husband was, if noble could well be the next count of
> Valencia de Campos. As he was an Infant he was made a duke, something
> already common in Castile but not in Portugal where the first dukes
> were the children of king John I, a clear english tradition brought by
> queen Philippa of Lancaster.
>

Please disregard the last sentence. All is quite confused as Martim
Vasques da Cunha was made a count but Valencia de Campos was a
lordship of his wife, a daughter of Infant D. João. His son Pedro was
the 2nd count and his grandson Juan the 2nd duke of Valencia de Campos
and 3rd count of Valencia de Don Juan.
It is considered a castilian family so I was not familiar with
details.
http://www.geneall.net/H/per_page.php?id=1534
Please note that Acuña is castilian for Cunha.

Also that Martim Vasques da Cunha married twice with castilian ladies
(Girão is portuguese for castilian Giron)
http://www.geneall.net/P/per_page.php?id=9061

Regards,
Francisco
(Portugal)


Francisco Tavares de Almeida

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Answers interspred

On 31 Mar, 01:24, "M.Sjostrom" <q...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> lords of the Ferreira family:
>
> how attestedly is known the precise kinship between dona Guiomar, wife of Joao Afonso Teles Menezes, the count of Barcelos;http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00461509&tree=LEO
> and

> Rui Gil de Vilaloboshttp://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00482507&tree=LEO


> ????
>
> was dona Guiomar a maternal granddaughter of said Rui Gil, being daughter of his daughter Maria and her husband, the lord of Ferreira ??
> is this ascertained ?

Exactly, except that the father is lord of Ferreira de Aves (Ferreira
de Aves is north, Ferreira is Alentejo, south) and the grandfather D.
Rui Gil de Vilalobos.

>
> or is there actually any attestation of any kinship between them?
>

If them is D. Guiomar and D. Rui it is already answered. If it is D.
Guiomar and the husband, they were remotely cousins both descending of
the Haros, lords of Viscaya and the Girons lords of Carrión y Antillo
with common ancestors around the 6th generation (32-63).

> and what were dona Guiomar's authentic names, bynames, in her contemporary sources ???
> was she a Pacheco in contemporary texts, or a Rodrigues de Vilalobos ?

She is conventionally named Guiomar Lopes Pacheco but also Guiomar de
Vilalobos, Guiomar Lopes and Guiomar de Ferreira.
In contemporary texts she was most probaly D. Guiomar, wife of ...,
daughter of ... or granddaughter of... . In that epoch women were most
rarely given surnames or bynames and even patronymics (Guiomar Lopes)
were not common. However in documents related to the lordship of
Ferreira de Aves - as an example - or a related inheritance she could
appear as 'de Ferreira'; and in a documentd related to the maternal
family she could appear as 'de Vilalobos'. It could also appear any of
them when in the same document or chronicle two different D. Guiomar
were mentioned.

Regards,
Francisco
(Portugal)

M.Sjostrom

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about Teles Girao de El Frechoso,
and Alarcao
==================================

was Afonso Teles Girao, lord of El Frechoso,
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00319479&tree=LEO
rather a portuguese or a castilian ?
where and what was that lordship of El Frechoso ? doesn't it have anything to do with vale frechoso in northeast Portugal ?


was his wife, Tereza Rodrigues Alarcao, of a castilla-mancha-seated Alarcon, or was she from Portugal ?
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00319480&tree=LEO


-------

their descendants, anyway, include a lot of interesting people - both in Castile and in Portugal

Afonso Teles Girao, lord of El Frechoso, m
Tereza Rodrigues Alarcao

their daughter:
Tereza Teles Girao, heiress of El Frechoso (though died lots before her husband, produced many children), m
dom Martim da Acunha, conde de Valenza;

they had a number of daughters and sons, including following issues:

http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00416257&tree=LEO
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00027941&tree=LEO

http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00461727&tree=LEO

http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00319480&tree=LEO


Francisco Tavares de Almeida

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On 31 Mar, 15:26, "M.Sjostrom" <q...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> about Teles Girao de El Frechoso,
> and Alarcao
> ==================================
>

> was Afonso Teles Girao, lord of El Frechoso,http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00319479&tree=LEO


> rather a portuguese or a castilian ?

Castilian. An agnatic descendant of the Giron, lords of Carrión
(possibly Carrión de los Condes in Castilla-León)

> where and what was that lordship of El Frechoso ?  doesn't it have anything to do with vale frechoso in northeast Portugal ?
>

Nothing to do with Vale Frechoso. Probably it was San Frechoso in
spanish Asturias.

> was his wife, Tereza Rodrigues Alarcao, of a castilla-mancha-seated Alarcon, or was she from Portugal ?http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00319480&tree=LEO
>

I do not know and I can not find her in easily.


> -------
>
> their descendants, anyway, include a lot of interesting people - both in Castile and in Portugal
>
> Afonso Teles Girao, lord of El Frechoso, m
> Tereza Rodrigues Alarcao
>
> their daughter:
> Tereza Teles Girao, heiress of El Frechoso (though died lots before her husband, produced many children), m
> dom Martim da Acunha, conde de Valenza;

(D.) Martim Vasques da Cunha, 1. conde de Valencia de Campos
(maybe castilians called him Martín Vasquez de Acuña)


>
> they had a number of daughters and sons, including following issues:
>

> http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00416257&tree=LEOhttp://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00027941&tree=LEO
>
> http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00461727&tree=LEO
>
> http://genealogics.org/descend.php?personID=I00319480&tree=LEO

Probably much more as Leo has only one son and I find 6
* Luis da Cunha
* Alfonso Tellez-Giron * 1380 oo D. Maria Pacheco, senhora de
Belmonte
* Maria Girão * 1370 oo Gonçalo Pires de Almeida
* Leonor de Acuña Giron * c. 1380 oo João das Regras oo D. João de
Castro, senhor de Cadaval
* Beatriz de Acuña Giron * c. 1370 oo Juan de Castilla, señor de
Valencia de Campos
* Teresa Ginebra Acuña Tellez Giron * c. 1395 oo Sancho Manuel, 3.
conde de Carrion oo Diego Díaz de Haro, 3. señor de El Busto oo Gomez
Perez Dasmariñas

Regards,
Francisco
(Portugal)

P.S. - I am a Genealogics fan and a (virtual) friend of Leo but you
can not expect a complete coverage of iberian lineages in Genealogics
much less understand the intrinsic *rules* of portuguese names in
Leo's biographies.
F.

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