SP Correction: Ancestry of Stewart, Earl of Galloway
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Hello All,
The account in SP for the family of Stewart, Earl of Galloway
accords largely with the belief that the Stewarts of Jedworth (and the
later Earls of Galloway) were the descendants of one Sir William
Stewart, a younger brother of Sir John Stewart of Darnley [1].
Interestingly, at the same time that this article draws heavily on the
documentation provided by Andrew Stuart [2], it relies on thin
evidence (esp. heraldry) to create a connection between the said Sir
William Stewart and the Darnley family. I have discussed this matter
at some length with Andrew B. W. MacEwen, who had already determined
that neither account is accurate.
The SP account states in part,
" Sir Alexander Stewart of Darnley, grandson of the above Sir
Alan, married, first, _____ Turnbull, sister of Sir John
Turnbull ’out wyth swerd’; and secondly, after 1381, Janet Keith,
daughter of Sir William Keith of Galston, and widow of Sir David
Hamilton. By his first marriage he had: -
1. Sir John (afterwards of Darnley), Constable of the Scots
Army in France 1420-29. <3>
2. Sir William, ancestor of the Earls of Galloway.
3. Alexander.
4. Robert.
5. James.
6. Janet. <4>
7. William, probably the issue of the second marriage, as
he was apparently a very young man who had only reached
the rank of ‘escuyer’, or esquire, when he was killed
at Orleans in 1429. <5>
NOTES <SP> :
<3> Andrew Stuart’s History of the Stewarts, 83, and Riddell’s
Reply to Anderson’s Memoirs of the Hamiltons, 45.
<4> Andrew Stuart, 96.
<5> Ibid., 146 et seq., and Riddell’s Peerage Law, ii. 810
note."[3]
The case made in the balance of the SP account (pp. 146-147) is
that the Darnley and Jedworth Stewarts were descended from the alleged
Turnbull marriage as given above, relying on heraldry and documentary
evidence that Sir William Stewart of Jedworth, allegedly a younger
brother of Sir John of Darnley, was the nephew of the noted Sir John
Turnbull ‘out wyth swerd’, laird of Minto, from whom he received a
grant of the lands of Minto.
Interestingly, documentation provided by Andrew Stuart clearly
shows that Sir John Stewart was the son of Alexander Stewart’s
marriage to Janet Keith. Janet Keith, in her widowhood, granted
lands in Galston to her son Andrew Hamilton (a younger son by her
first marriage) in a charter dated 11 Dec 1406. The witnesses
included ' Willielmus de Hamyltoun, filius meus, Miles; et Joannes
Senescallus, filius meus, dominus de Cruickston ' [4]. It evidently
escaped the SP author, as John Stewart was laird of Crookston [or
Cruickston] before receiving livery of the lands of Darnley:
Crookston was one of the several holdings of the Darnley family, and
is to be found in their holdings in subsequent generations.
There is in fact no evidence for a marriage of Alexander Stewart
of Darnley to a wife other than Janet Keith; this connection was
unfortunately created in order to support the alleged junior position
of Sir William Stewart of Jedworth (an adult in 1385, and a combatant
at the Battle of Otterburn in 1388) to Sir John Stewart of Darnley
(evidently born say 1381-1390). While the Stewarts of Jedworth (and
Minto) descend in the male line from the Sir William of Jedworth who
was the nephew of Sir John Turnbull of Minto, their male-line
ancestry does in fact trace back to one John le Seneschal of
Jedworth, a signatory to the Ragman Roll of 1296, who was distinct
from the Darnley ancestor Sir John le Stewart of Bonkil [5].
I will post a corrected pedigree for the Stewarts of Darnley,
and of Castlemilk, in the near future. Meanwhile, any relevant
commentary, criticism or further documentation is welcome, as
always.
Cheers,
John *
NOTES
[1] SP IV:145 et seq. [Stewart, Earl of Galloway].
[2] Andrew Stuart, Genealogical History of the Stewarts, from the
earliest period of their authentic history to the present times
[London: Printed for A. Strahan, and T. Cadell Jun. and W. Davies,
in the Strand, 1798].
[3] SP IV:145.
[4] Stuart, p. 102.
[5] SP IV:146, citing Stuart. The signatories of the Ragman Roll of
1296 can be studied on line, at www.rampantscotland.com/ragman
and the "Electric Scotland" site,
www.electricscotland.com/history/articles/ragman_rolls.htm
The relevant entries, found at
http://www.rampantscotland.com/ragman/blragman_s.htm
‘ Senefcalli, Dominus Johannes (Domini Jacobi Senefcalli Scocie
germanus, miles) ; (Johan Senefechal frere Mon fire James
Senefchal Defcoce).
Senefcallus Scocie, Dominus Jacobus dictus (miles), (James
Senefchal Defcoce).
Senefchal de Jeddeworth, Johan le (del counte de Rokefburgh).
* John P. Ravilious
WJho...@aol.com
writes:
<< The SP account states in part,
" Sir Alexander Stewart of Darnley, grandson of the above Sir
Alan, married, first, _____ Turnbull, sister of Sir John
Turnbull ’out wyth swerd’; and secondly, after 1381, Janet Keith,
daughter of Sir William Keith of Galston, and widow of Sir David
Hamilton. By his first marriage he had: -
1. Sir John (afterwards of Darnley), Constable of the Scots
Army in France 1420-29. <3>
2. Sir William, ancestor of the Earls of Galloway.
3. Alexander.
4. Robert.
5. James.
6. Janet. <4>
7. William, probably the issue of the second marriage, as
he was apparently a very young man who had only reached
the rank of ‘escuyer’, or esquire, when he was killed
at Orleans in 1429. <5>
NOTES <SP> :
<3> Andrew Stuart’s History of the Stewarts, 83, and Riddell’s
Reply to Anderson’s Memoirs of the Hamiltons, 45.
<4> Andrew Stuart, 96.
<5> Ibid., 146 et seq., and Riddell’s Peerage Law, ii. 810
note."[3] >>
This last child is quite interesting. At what age does one becomes an
escuyer ? This Alexander Stewart is supposed to have dvp 1401 so William Stewart
the youngest child had to be at least 27 at his death at Orleans.
Will Johnson
Leo van de Pas
Many thanks for this. Do I understand correctly that you want to remove NN
Turnbull as a wife of Sir Alexander Stewart of Darnley? Are then all the
children (at least 6) by the marriage to Janet Keith?
I do not know how fastidious people were in those times but could Janet
Keith in 1406 have recorded a stepson as son?
I have access only to secondary sources and those two do give NN Turnbull as
a first wife and mother of all 6 children, only William killed in 1429 is
shown as son of Janet Keith.
Burke's Extince Peerage, 1866 edition page 511
Gerald Paget's huge book on ancestors and relatives of Prince Charles Volume
I page 213.
The Stewarts are one of my favourite families but I would like to have
details correct. Look forward to hearing more.
Leo
The...@aol.com
Dear Leo,
Indeed, the Turnbull connection (as held in SP to be a
marriage into the Darnley family) is spurious, and only
directly relates to the Jedworth family. There are 4
children of Alexander Stewart and Janet Keith (see below)
- I believe based on chronology that Janet Stewart (wife of
Thomas Somerville of Cambusnethan) must be a daughter of the
elder Sir Alexander Stewart and his wife Johanna. Whether
the alleged '2nd' Sir William Stewart (who d. in 1429) is a
son of Alexander Stewart and Janet Keith, I am not certain
at present.
The partial pedigree below gives generations from Sir
Alan Stewart of Darnley (k. 1333) to Alan Stewart of Darnley
[NOT a knight] (k. 1438), with the Genealogics ID numbers
for each. My suggestions, in addition to the sequence given
below:
1. Currently Genealogics shows Janet Keith one
generation too early; the wife of that Sir
Alexander (as indicated) was Joan, or Johanna.
2. The '2nd' Alexander Stewart [NOT a knight] is
given a 2nd wife 'Johanna Keith', which tallies
with the SP account. This is a mirror image, as
Janet Keith is the correct wife at this generation.
~ Note too, Genealogics has two Sir William Keiths
of Galston (I 00338599 and I 00056983) as a
result.
In addition to the suggested changes, there is the issue
of Sir William Stewart of Jedworth (I 00006259, son of NN
Turnbull, I 00006257). I would recommend creating another
Stewart of Jedworth ("NN" as of yet), without filiation, as
husband of NN Turnbull. The subsequent marriage by Sir
William's son into the Stewarts of Garlies is correct, and
provides the one know connection into the descendants of Sir
John Stewart of Bonkil.
For a current online reference which agrees with this
presentation, see Neil Thompson and Col. Hansen's Ancestry
of Charles II, now on the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
website:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/CharlesII/
Cheers,
John
1.3 Sir Alan Stewart
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Death: 19 Jul 1333, Battle of Halidon Hill[1]
Occ: laird of Dreghorn
Genealogics I00006214 [23]
Children: Sir John (->1362)
Walter (-ca1377)
Sir Alexander (->1401)
1.3.1 Sir John Stewart
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Death: aft 1362, d.s.p.s.[11]
Occ: laird of Darnley
knt., of Darnley
Genealogics I00006251 [23]
Children: Robert (->1362)
1.3.1.1 Robert Stewart
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Death: aft 1362, d.s.p., d.v.p.
Genealogics I00006253 [23]
1.3.2 Walter Stewart
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Death: ca 1377, d.s.p.[11]
laird of Darnley
Genealogics I00006248 [23]
1.3.3 Sir Alexander Stewart
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Death: aft 1401[11]
Occ: laird of Darnley
laird of Darnley
Genealogics I00006254 [23]
succeeded to Darnley after death of his brother Walter,
1377[11]
resigned barony of Cambusnethan to daughter Janet and Thomas
Somerville, 1392 [1]
Spouse: Joanna[12]
Children: Sir John
Alexander (-ca1402)
William
Janet, m. Thomas Somerville of Carnwath
1.3.3.1 Sir John Stewart
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1.3.3.2 Alexander Stewart
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Death: ca 1402, d.v.p.[13],[12]
Occ: laird of Galston
Genealogics I00006256 [23]
heir of his father (d.v.p.[11])
acquired Galston de jure uxoris[13]
cf. Scots Peerage (Stewart, Earl of Lennox)[1]
Thompson and Hansen 12(1):83 #1024[13]
Spouse: Janet Keith Genealogics I00006255 [23]
Death: aft 11 Dec 1406[8]
Father: Sir William Keith Genealogics I00338599 [23]
duplicate: I00056983 [23]
Children: Sir John (-1428)
Alexander
Robert
James
1.3.3.2.1 Sir John Stewart
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Death: 12 Feb 1428, battle of Orleans, France[13]
Occ: sieur d'Aubigny
Genealogics I00006261 [23]
laird of Darnley
succeeded his grandfather, 1402 or afterwards [12]
dispensation for marriage to Elizabeth of Lennox, 23 Sept
1406[1]
' Joannes Senescallus, filius meus, dominus de Cruickston ',
witness (together with his half-brother William Hamilton) to
charter of his mother Janet Keith, in her widowhood, granted
lands in Galston to her son Andrew Hamilton in a charter
dated 11 Dec 1406 [Stuart, p. 102[8]]
fought in France; leader of the Scots forces defeating the
English at Beauge, 22 March 1421/22; captured Thomas
Beaufort, 'brother of the Earl of Somerset' [Stuart
pp. 121-2[8]]
'Jean Stuart, sieur de Derneley ' , created sieur d'Aubigny,
by letters patent dated at Bourges, 22 March 1421/22
(granted by King Charles VII of France)[13], [Stuart p.
117[8]]
fought at the battle of Beauge, 1420/21
2nd husband of Elizabeth of Lennox [SP V:341[1]]
cf. SP V:341 (Earl of Lennox)
SP V:346-7 (Stewart, Earl of Lennox)[1]
Thompson and Hansen 6(1):100 #512[13]
Spouse: Elizabeth of Lennox
Father: Duncan of Lennox (ca1345-1425)
Mother: Helen Campbell
Marr: bef 23 Sep 1406[1],[8]
Children: Alan (-1438)
Alexander
John
1.3.3.2.1.1 Alan Stewart
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Death: 20 Sep 1438, Linlithgow (murdered)[13],[8]
Occ: laird of Darnley
laird of Darnley
'Allan Stuart lord of Darnlee', together with his cousin
David Stuart of Finnard, a member of a jury hearing a
dispute between the burghs of Renfrew and Dumbarton at
Glasgow, 22 Nov 1429 [Stuart p. 162[8]]
' 1. Charter by Alan Stewart, Lord of Dernle, in favour of
Robert of Dalzelle of Le Bracanrig, for his service rendered
and to be rendered during his lifetime to the granter, of
the lands of Brownsyde, in the barony of Strathavane and
shire of Lanark: To be held by the said Robert, and his
heirs and assignees, of the granter and his heirs, in feu
and heritage for ever, for rendering yearly three suits of
court at the granter's three head pleas held at Elamtoun.
Dated at Cruxtoun, 5th December 1429. Witnesses, John
Sympile, Lord of Elzotstoun, Robert Stewart of Cragynfeach,
William of Maxwele of Akynhede, etc.' [Fraser p. 309[14]]
' 3. Notarial Instrument on the ratification by Catrine of
Setovn, Lady of Dernle, of the Charter No. 1, supra, granted
by the said Alan Stewart, her husband, to the said Robert of
Dalzel, and his heirs and assignees, of the lands of
Brownside. Dated at the Castle of Crukystoun, 27th August
1430. [Seal Attached].' [Fraser p. 309[14]]
sieur d'Aubigny (France)[13]
cf. Scots Peerage (Stewart, Earl of Lennox)[1]
Thompson and Hansen 4(2):145 #256[13]
Spouse: Katherine Seton
Death: bef 1478[13]
Father: Sir John Seton (-<1434)
Mother: Catherine Sinclair (-ca1450)
Marr: bef 27 Aug 1430[14]
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