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On Thursday, May 10, 2012 5:15:20 AM UTC-7, Dave D. wrote:
> Dear List,
>=20
> In the Visitations of Suffolk, an impressive pedigree is given for the
> Hovell (alias Smith) family of Ashfield or Haughley. Among other
> things, an Edward I descent is claimed via Gawdy and Bassigbourne, and
> as Douglas Richardson mentioned in an earlier post in 2009, there is a
> marriage asserted between a daughter of Sir Arthur Hopton of Cockfield
> Hall (b abt 1488, of Westwood). From this link there is a descent from
> Davy Tudor, bastard of Owen (father of Henry VII),  and other
> interesting medieval families. A link is also made to the Thorpe
> family of Ashwell, Norfolk, via a daughter Beatrix of Sir John Thorpe,
> third baron.
>=20
> http://archive.org/stream/visitationsofsuf00harvuoft#page/194/mode/2up
>=20
> Trouble is, there are huge problems with this pedigree, especially in
> chronology. The Gawdy link is certainly impossible as presented, but
> whether it is an echo of a true link or s simple faleshood, I don't
> know.
>=20
> Does anyone know of a reliable Hovell pedigree? In my diggings around
> the web, I have seen many sources repeat the Visitation, some
> critically, most not.
>=20
> I would point out that one interest is that this family (as well as
> Woodgates, Chapman alias Barker and Vesey, all of Suffolk) are
> ancestral to the 17th century immigrant Daniel Goodwin, of Kittery,
> Maine.
>=20
> Dave

Dave,

An article by W.W. Fiske (TAG 80(2005):104) explains that this is another c=
ase of "the name's the same." Fiske identifies the source for the assertion=
 that Daniel was the son of Daniel & Dorothy (Barker) Goodwin but notes tha=
t no evidence is provided for the assertion. The English origins of Daniel =
Goodwin of Kittery, Maine remain unproven AFAIK, unless something more rece=
nt has come to light.

Hal Bradley