Descendants of King John's alleged illegitimate daughter, Isabel, wife of Sir Richard Fitz Ives
Douglas Richardson
I've posted below an account of the descendants of King John's alleged
illegitimate daughter, Isabel Fitz Roy, wife of Sir Richard Fitz Ives,
of Degembris (in Newlyn East) and Trenoweth-with-Trewithgy (in
Probus), Cornwall.
For interest's sake, I've listed below the various 17th Century New
World immigrants who descend from Isabel Fitz Roy and her husband, Sir
Richard Fitz Ives. The list includes Richard More, a passenger on the
ship, Mayflower.
1. Thomas Booth.
2. Frances, Jane & Katherine Deighton.
3. Obadiah Bruen.
4. Richard More.
Comments are invited.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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JOHN, King of England, by an unknown mistress, _____.
1. ISABEL FITZ ROY, alleged illegitimate daughter. She married
RICHARD FITZ IVES, Knt., of Degembris (in Newlyn East) and Trenoweth-
with-Trewithgy (in Probus), Cornwall. They had two sons, William Fitz
Richard, Knt., and Richard Fitz Richard (clerk), and one daughter,
Isabel (wife of Bartholomew de Chaumont and Belyn Hellegan, Knt.). He
gave tithes in Gruguth (in St. Keverne), Cornwall. In 1202 he
rendered account of 100s. for a fine he made with William Briwerre
involving one half knight's fee in Cornwall. He occurs in subsequent
Pipe Rolls for Cornwall during the reign of King John for the years,
1203-1205, being assessed for a half-knight's fee. He may possibly be
the Richard Fitz Ives who made a false claim in Northamptonshire in
1208. SIR RICHARD FITZ IVES died before Michaelmas 1211, when his
heirs were charged 2 marks by the king for scutage for Wales. His
heirs were subsequently charged scutage for Poitou on one knight's fee
in Cornwall in 1214 (part of which was paid in 1222), and for scutage
for the siege of Byham in 1224.
References:
Polsue, Complete Parochial Hist. of Cornwall, 4 (1872): 76. Herald &
Genealogist, 7 (1873): 229-231 (list of Fitz Ives family obits:
"Obitus d'ni Ric'i fits yva militis Ao 1207," "Obitus d'ne Isabelle
uxoris sue filie Regis Joh'is."). Maclean, Hist. of the Deanery of
Trigg Minor, 1 (1876): 317. Vivian, Vis. of Cornwall (1887): 30.
Hall, Red Book of the Exchequer, 1 (Rolls Ser. 99) (1896): 162-163.
Stawell, A Quantock Fam. (1910): 44-45, 278-280 (Fitzive arms: Gules,
a bend between 6 lozenges [or fusils] or). Rowe & Tapley-Soper,
Cornwall Feet of Fines 1 (Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc. 1914a) (1914):
17, 49, 54-55, 58-59, 91-92, 171, 438-440. Reg. of Edward the Black
Prince 2 (1931): 113, 120. Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe for the
4th Year of the Reign of King John Michaelmas 1202 (Pipe Roll Soc.
n.s. 15) (1937): 170. Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe for the 5th
Year of the Reign of King John Michaelmas 1203 (Pipe Roll Soc. n.s.
16) (1938): 83. Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe for the 6th Year of
the Reign of King John Michaelmas 1204 (Pipe Roll Soc. n.s. 18)
(1940): 41. Smith, Great Roll of the Pipe for the 7th Year of the
Reign of King John Michaelmas 1205 (Pipe Roll Soc. n.s. 19) (1941):
4. Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe for the 10th Year of the Reign of
King John Michaelmas 1208 (Pipe Roll Soc. n.s. 23) (1947): 179.
Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe for the 13th Year of the Reign of King
John Michaelmas 1211 (Pipe Roll Soc. n.s. 28) (1953): 161. Barnes,
Great Roll of the Pipe for the 16th Year of the Reign of King John
Michaelmas 1214 (Pipe Roll Soc. n.s. 35) (1962): 63. NEHGR, 119
(1965): 94-102. Knight & Crook, Great Roll of the Pipe for the 6th
Year of the Reign of King Henry III Michaelmas 1222 (Pipe Roll Soc.
n.s. 51) (1999): 129. Amt, Great Roll of the Pipe for the 8th Year of
the Reign of King Henry III Michaelmas 1224 (Pipe Roll Soc. n.s. 54)
(2005): 244. Harleian MS. 4031: ff.76b, 81.
2. WILLIAM FITZ RICHARD, Knt., of Lanisley [in Gulival], Trenoweth-
with-Trewithgy (in Probus), Trenoweth-Chammon and Rosneython (in St.
Keverne), Degembris and Penhallow (both in Newlyn East), and Pelynt,
Cornwall, son and heir, born say 1205 (evidently still a minor in
1224). He married ROSE BEVYLE, daughter of Ralph Bevyle, Knt., of
Tredaule (in Altarnum), Cornwall. They had one daughter, Isabel. He
granted the manor of Trenoweth-Chammon (in St. Keverne) in free
marriage to his sister, Isabel, wife of Bartholomew de Chaumont. SIR
WILLIAM FITZ RICHARD died 26 May 1265. His widow, Rose, died 4 April
1291.
Herald & Genealogist, 7 (1873): 229-231 (list of Fitz Ives family
obits: "Obitus d'ni Will'mi fitz yva militis de Lanuestby et Penhalyn
in die S'ti Augustini xxvjo die mensis Maij Ao d'ni 1265," "Obitus
Rosee uxoris sui filie d'ni Rad'i Beauville militis quarto die mensis
Aprilis Ao d'ni 1291."). Book of Fees, 1 (1920): 394, 437. Curia
Regis Rolls, 11 (1955): 473; 12 (1957): 189; 18 (1999): 362-363.
Hull, Caption of Seisin of Duchy of Cornwall (Devon & Cornwall Rec.
Soc. n.s. 17) (1971): xvii-xviii, 6.
3. ISABEL FITZ WILLIAM, daughter and heiress. She married STEPHEN DE
BEAUPRÉ, Knt., of Kelynack (in St. Just), and, in right of his wife,
of Trenoweth-with-Trewithgy (in Probus), Cornwall, presumably son of
John de Beaupré, Steward and Sheriff of Cornwall. They had one son,
Ralph, Knt., and one daughter, Joan (wife of John de Trevegnon,
Knt.). He witnessed a charter for Edmund of Almain, Earl of Cornwall,
in 1291, and an agreement between Herbert de Pyn, lord of Milton, and
Richard, Prior of Launceston, in 1302. In 1309 he presented Richard
de Beaupré to the church of St. Just in Penwith, Cornwall. SIR
STEPHEN DE BEAUPRÉ died 17 March 1309. His widow, Isabel, died 7 Nov.
1325.
References:
Herald & Genealogist 7 (1873): 229-231 (list of Fitz Ives family
obits: "Obitus d'ni Stephani de bello prato milit' xvijo die mensis
Martij in vigillia S'ti Edwardi Regis et martiris Ao d'ni 1307,"
"Obitus Isabelle uxoris sue filie et heredis d'ci d'ni Will'mi fitz
yva militis in crastino S'ti Leonardi confessoris et Abb'is vijo die
mensis Novembris Ao 1325."). C.F.R. 2 (1912): 39. Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 8 (1915): 160. Hull, Cartulary of Launceston Priory
(Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc. n.s. 30) (1987): 12-13, 98, 145.
4. RALPH DE BEAUPRÉ, Knt., of Trenoweth-with-Trewithgy (in Probus),
Carveth (in Mabe), Degembris (in Newlyn East), Kelynack (in St. Just),
Lanisley [in Gulival], Penhallam (in Jacobstow), and Tremough,
Cornwall, and Northcote, Devon, son and heir. He married MARGARET DE
FURNEAUX, daughter of Matthew de Furneaux, Knt., of Ashington, Kilve,
and Shurton, Somerset, Sheriff of Dorset and Somerset, by Maud,
daughter of Warin de Raleigh, Knt. They had one son, John, Knt., and
one daughter, Isabel. In 1329 he released to his mother-in-law, Maud
de Furneaux, his claim to land which he had of her gift in Shurton,
Stening, and Stoke Curci, Somerset. SIR RALPH DE BEAUPRÉ died 29 June
1329. On 25 June 1330 the Queen granted custody of two parts of his
lands held in chief of the queen as of Launceston Castle during the
minority of the heir to Otes de Botryngham, together with the marriage
of John, minor son and heir of the said Ralph. In 1331 his widow,
Margaret, released her right to dower to land in Shurton, Stening, and
Stoke Curci, Somerset to her mother. Margaret married (2nd) before
Trinity 1331 (date of settlement) (as his 2nd wife) Hugh de Longland
(or Langelonde), Knt., of South Brent, Axbridge, Burnham, Cheddar,
Edington, etc., Somerset, Knight of the Shire of Somerset, 1327,
Sheriff of Somerset and Dorset, 1330-1331, son and heir of Nicholas de
Longland, Knt., of South Brent, Somerset, Sheriff of Somerset and
Dorset, 1306. He was born in 1287. They had one son, Hugh, and one
daughter, Margaret (wife of John Saint Barbe, Knt., and Richard de
Acton, Knt.). In Trinity 1331 Hugh and his wife, Margaret, made a
settlement of his lands in South Brent, Axbridge, Burnham, Cheddar,
etc., Somerset. In 1333 Hugh complained that William son of Robert de
Leye, John de Kyligrew, and others broke his park at Penhallam (in
Jacobstow), Cornwall, hunted there, carried away deer, and assaulted
his servant. Sir Hugh de Longland died testate shortly before 11 June
1334. In 1335 his widow, Margaret, complained that Thomas Chaunterel,
John de Say, and others assaulted and imprisoned her at South Brent,
Somerset, mowed her crops, and carried them away with other goods. In
1340 she complained that John de Langelond, John Barbe, parson of the
church of Cossington, broke her coffers at Compton by Axbridge,
Somerset, and carried away her goods with charters, writings, and
other muniments. In 1343 she complained that Robert de Brente, John
Barbe, parson of the church of Cossington, and others broke her houses
at South Brent, Somerset, assaulted her, and carried away her goods.
Margaret died 8 August 1349.
References:
Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 243-248 ["Also the 4th daughter of Mathew
de Furneaux, Margarete, was maried to John [recte Ralph] Beaupre, kt.,
which had issue John Beaupre, kt. and the said John [recte Ralph] the
father died, after whose decease the said Margarete was maried to
Heugh Longland, kt. which had Hugh Longland, kt. and Margaret; which
Hugh died without isseu, and Margaret suster to the said Hugh, and
Margarete wife of Hugh Longland the father, had for their parte 50li.
of lands, Astynton [Ashington], Warmester [Warminster], and divers
other lands in Somersetshire."). Herald & Genealogist 7 (1873): 229-
231 (list of Fitz Ives family obits: "Obitus d'ni Ran'di de bello
prato militis filii et hered' d'ci d'ni Steph'i et Isabelle uxoris in
festo S'coru' Petri et Pauli Ao d'ni 1329," "Obitus Margarete uxoris
sue filie d'ni Simonis Sergeauxe [recte Furneaux] milit' viijo die
mensis Augusti Ao d'ni 1349."). Benolte Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573 &
1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux pedigree: "Margerett [Furneux] 4 d. [1] =
Sr. John Bewpre Knt. 1 husband, [2] = Sr. Hugh Longland, Knt.").
C.P.R. 1327-1330 (1891): 539. C.P.R. 1330-1334 (1893): 450-451.
C.P.R. 1334-1338 (1895): 215. Shrewsbury, Reg. of Ralph of Shrewsbury
Bp. of Bath & Wells 1329-1363 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 9) (1896): 211-212,
229. C.C.R. 1330-1333 (1898): 364. C.P.R. 1338-1340 (1898): 481.
Green, Feet of Fines for Somerset 2 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 12) (1898):
154-155. List of Sheriffs for England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes
9) (1898): 123. Gerard, The Particular Description of the County of
Somerset (Somerset Rec. Soc. 15) (1900): 180 (Longland arms: Arg[ent]
a wiverne volant sab[le]; Furneaux arms: Gules betw[een] 6 crosslets
or). Misc. Gen. et Heraldica, 3rd ser. 3 (1900): 272-276 (Furneaux
pedigree dated 1421: "Aceciam predicta Margareta quarta filia predicti
Mathei marritata fuit Johanni Beaupre militem, et habuerunt exitum
Johannem Beaupre militem et Isabellam. Et predictus Johannes Beaupre
pater obit, post cuius mortem predicta Margareta uxor predicti
Johannis marritata fuit Hugoni Langelond militi, et habuerunt exitum
Hugonem, et Margaretam, qui dictus Hugo obiit sine herede et predicta
Margarata soror predicti Hugonis marritata fuit Johanni Barbe, et
habuerunt exitum Ricardum Barbe, post cuius mortem predicta Margareta
uxor predicti Johannis Barbe fuit marritata Ricardo de Acton militi,
et nullum habuerunt exitum."). C.P.R. 1343-1345 (1902): 83-84.
Weaver, Feodary of Glastonbury Abbey (Somerset Rec. Soc. 26) (1910):
105-106. C.F.R. 4 (1913): 142, 159-160, 178, 245, 283. Somerset &
Dorset N&Q, 16 (1920): 281-285 (Furneaux pedigree). Lyte, Hist. Notes
of Some Somerset Manors (Somerset Rec. Soc. Extra Ser. 1) (1931): 298-
300, 310-312, 347. Procs. of Somersetshire Arch. & Nat. Hist. Soc. 79
(1933): Appendix, 28-29 (biog. of Hugh de Langlond). VCH Wiltshire, 8
(1965): 96-103. Hull, Caption of Seisin of Duchy of Cornwall (Devon &
Cornwall Rec. Soc. n.s. 17) (1971): xvii-xviii, xxxi, 6, 12, 95. VCH
Somerset, 8 (1992): 145-146.
Children of Ralph de Beaupré, Knt., by Margaret de Furneaux:
i. JOHN DE BEAUPRÉ, Knt., of Lanisley [in Gulival], Penhallam (in
Jacobstow), and Trenoweth-with-Trewithgy (in Probus), Cornwall,
bachelor of Edward the Black Prince, son and heir, born 4 Oct. 1327
(aged 2 in 1329, minor in 1337). He married MARGARET DE CARMINOW,
daughter of John de Carminow, Knt., by Joan, daughter of John Glyn,
Knt. They had no issue. In 1334 Sir Richard de Champernoun presented
to the church of St. Just in Penwith, Cornwall by reason of the
minority of John, son and heir of Ralph de Beaupre, Knt. In 1337 the
tenants of [John] heir of Ralph de Beaupré were required "to make
distraint" ... "and to grind at the mill." In 1349 John presented to
the church of St. Just in Penwirth, Cornwall. In 1355 he and his
wife, Margaret, conveyed the advowson of St. Just in Penwith, Cornwall
to the Provost and Chapter of St. Thomas at Glasneyth, Cornwall. SIR
JOHN DE BEAUPRÉ died 23 August 1356, and was buried in the Friars
Minor in Castelros in Berry, France. His widow, Margaret, died in
1359. Coll. Top. et Gen., 1 (1834): 243-248 (Furneaux pedigree).
Maclean, Hist. of the Deanery of Trigg Minor 1 (1876): 189; 3 (1879):
158-159 (Carminow pedigree). Herald & Genealogist, 7 (1873): 229-231
(list of Fitz Ives family obits: "Obitus domini Joh'is Beaupre milit'
filii et heredis d'ci d'ni Ran'di de bello pratro in vigillia S'ci
Bartho'i apostoli apud Chatelros in com Berry," "Obitus Margarete
vxoris sue filie d'ni Joh'is Carmenowe militis Ao d'ni 1359).
Benolte, Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux
pedigree: "Sr. John Bewpre, Knt., ob. s.p."). C.F.R. 4 (1913): 159-
160, 178. Somerset & Dorset N&Q, 16 (1920): 281-285 (Furneaux
pedigree dated 1421: "Johannes Beaupre, filius predicti Johannis
Beaupre, obiit sine herede de corpore suo exeunte."). Hull, Caption
of Seisin of Duchy of Cornwall (Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc. n.s. 17)
(1971): xvii-xviii, xxxi, 6, 12, 95. Online resource: http:// west-
penwith.org.uk/justvic.htm.
ii. ISABEL DE BEAUPRÉ [see next].
5. ISABEL DE BEAUPRÉ, married before Trinity 1343 (date of settlement)
JOHN DE LONGLAND (or LANGELONDE), Esq., of Grove (in South Brent),
Axbridge, Burnham, Cheddar, Compton by Axbridge, Edington, etc.,
Somerset, and, in right of his wife, Trenoweth-with-Trewithgy (in
Probus), Carveth (in Mabe), Degembris (in Newlyn East), Kelynack (in
St. Just), Lanisley [in Gulival], Penhallam (in Jacobstow), and
Tremough, Cornwall, and Northcote, Devon, Knight of the Shire for
Somerset, 1363, Sheriff of Somerset and Dorset, 1365-1368, son and
heir of Hugh de Longland, Knt., of South Brent, Axbridge, Burnham,
Cheddar, Edington, etc., Somerset, Knight of the Shire of Somerset,
1327, Sheriff of Somerset and Dorset, 1330-1331, by his unknown 1st
wife. They had three daughters, Margaret, Joan, and Agnes. In
Trinity 1343 he and his wife, Isabel, made a settlement of his lands
in Compton by Axbridge, Burnham, Edington, South Brent, etc., in
Somerset. In 1351 he witnessed various charters of Ralph of
Shrewsbury, Bishop of Bath and Wells. In 1353 he and his wife,
Isabel, made a settlement of his lands in South Brent, East Brent,
Burnham, Axbridge, Cheddar, Edington, etc., Somerset. His wife,
Isabel, was heiress in 1356 to her brother, John de Beaupré, Knt. In
1359 he and his wife, Isabel, sold her manor of Northcote, Devon to
Henry Percehay for 100 marks of silver. His wife, Isabel, was living
13 Oct. 1359. JOHN DE LONGLAND, Esq., died shortly before 19 June
1380. His wife, Isabel, predeceased him.
References:
Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 243-248 (Furneaux pedigree: "The forseid
Isabell, suster of John Beaupre, maryed John Longland sone and heire
of Hugh Longland, knt. borne and begotten of his first wife, which
John and Ysabell had 3 doughters, Margarete, Jane, and Annes. The
furst doughter Margaret maried Leonard Hakeluet, kt. of whom commyth
Stepulton of Shroppeshier, and had for his parte lands besides
Warmester, and in divers places. The 2nd Jane maried Robt. Yevelton,
kt. and Robt. died without isseu, and Jone maryed with Richard Rynyon,
grandfather to Wm. Ryvyon (sic), now alyve, and had for his parte
lands besides Yevell or Yevelchester, and in other places, as well as
in Somersetshier. The 3rd Anne maryed John Farwaye, and had bytwixte
them 2 doughters, the one maryed with Stowell, the other with Berkley
Lord of Tekenam and Stowell. And Berkeley as one heyre had for hir
parte the lands at Warmester, and afterwards Stowell and Berkley made
exchaunge, that Barkley shuld have Warmester hole for his parte to hym
and his heyres; and Stowell to have as mych land therfor in
Cornewaile, that was Barkles before that exchange made."). Herald &
Genealogist, 7 (1873): 229-231 (list of Fitz Ives family obits:
"Obitus Joh'is Langlond ar' filii et heredis d'ni Hugonis Langlond
militis Ao 1300 [recte 1380]," "Obitus Isabelle uxoris sue filii d'ni
Rad'i de bello prato et heres (sic), eo q'd p'd'cus d'nus Joh'es
Beaupre frater ejus obiit sine herede."). Benolte, Vis. of Somerset
1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux pedigree: "Issabell, sister
and heire of Sr. John Bewpre. = Sr. John Longland."). Margerett
[Furneux] 4 d. [1] = Sr. John Bewpre Knt. 1 husband, [2] = Sr. Hugh
Longland, Knt."). Ralph of Shrewsbury, Reg. of Ralph of Shrewsbury
Bishop of Bath & Wells 1329-1363 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 10) (1896): 665-
666, 679-681. Green, Feet of Fines for Somerset 2 (Somerset Rec. Soc.
12) (1898): 217-218; 3 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 17) (1902): 24. List of
Sheriffs for England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898): 123.
Somerset & Dorset N&Q, 11 (1909): 193-195 (Longland arms: Gules a
saltier ermine between four fleurs-de-lis or). Weaver, Cartulary of
Buckland Priory (Somerset Rec. Soc. 25) (1909): 116. Somerset &
Dorset N&Q, 16 (1920): 281-285 (Furneaux pedigree dated 1421). C.F.R.
9 (1926): 206, 214-215, 258. Procs. of Somersetshire Arch. & Nat.
Hist. Soc. 80 (1934): Appendix, 53 (biog. of John de Langlond).
Reichel, Devon Feet of Fines 2 (Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc. 1939)
(1939): 406. VCH Wiltshire, 8 (1965): 96-103. Cornwall Record
Office: Arundell of Lanherne and Trerice, AR/1/415 (declaration dated
c.1357 x 1380 mentions John Langelond as lord of Laneskele [Lanisley],
Cornwall by right of Isabel his wife) (abstract of document available
online at http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp).
Children of Isabel de Beaupré, by John de Longland:
i. MARGARET LONGLAND [see next].
ii. JOAN LONGLAND. She married (1st) before 1380 JOHN ROYNON (or
RUYNON, REYNON), of Bickfold, Somerset. They had one son, John, and
one daughter, Joan. John Roynon died testate. His widow, Joan,
married (2nd) before 11 June 1396 (date of fine) ROBERT YEVELTON ,
Knt., of Wiltshire, and, Rugges (in North Langley), Somerset, and in
right of his wife, of Axbridge, Somerset, and Kelynack (in St. Just)
and Trenoweth (in Probus), Cornwall. They had no issue. In the
period, 1386-1411, he sued Ralph Trenewith regarding rights of common,
estover, etc. in the manor of Trenewith and Trewishannes, Cornwall;
assaults, etc. In 1394 he witnessed an agreement between the Dean and
Chapter of Wells and the Abbot and Convent of Athelney. In 1396 he
and his wife, Joan, sold to William Hankeford, Knt. the manor of
Kelynack (in St. Just), Cornwall, together with 25s. of rent from the
manor of Lanisley (in Gulval), Cornwall, and three chantries in
Penryn, Cornwall for £100 sterling. He was cited in 1398 for not
appearing in court to answer John Bonyngton touching a debt of 108s.
6d. in Bristol. The same year he was pardoned by the king for his
outlawry in the Husting court of London for not appearing before the
justices to render 12l. 1s. to Richard Pecock and another, executors
of Peter Pecock, citizen and barber of London. In 1404 John Leythorn
was cited for not appearing when sued before the justices of the Bench
to answer Robet Yevelton, Knt. and Joan his wife touching a trespass
in Cornwall. In 1412 the king took into his hand Robert's lands in
Rugges (in North Langley), Somerset, on account of the outlawry
promulgated against him in the city of London at the suit of Robert
Polhill in a plea of debt. His wife, Joan, was a legatee in the 1414
will of her sister, Margaret Hakluyt, who bequeathed her a silver cup
with a cover. Joan died before 1421. In 1423 Thomas Duke and John
Wodecok, administrators of Nicholas Loude, of Somerset, sued Robert
Yevelton, Knt. SIR ROBERT YEVELTON died in 1428-1429. Coll. Top. et
Gen., 1 (1834): 243-248 (Furneaux pedigree: "The 2nd [daughter] Jane
[Longland] married Robt. Yevelton, kt. and Robt. died without isseu,
and Jone maryed with Richard Rynyon, grandfather to Wm. Ryvyon (sic),
now alive, and had for his parte lands besides Yevell or Yevelchester
[Ilchester], and in other places, as well as in Somersetshier.").
Scrope, Hist. of Castle Combe (1852): 248-129 ("Memdum, that ... Roger
Young, junior, dwelt in Castel Combe [Wiltshire] as a clothier in the
time of King Edward III. and a certain knight, Sir Robert Yevelton, in
the time of Richard II. came by force of arms to beat Roger Young,
then dwelling in Castel Combe; and the said knight fled into the
church of that lace for safety of his body."). Benolte Vis. of
Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux pedigree: "Joane
[Longland], 1 ux. Robert Penelton, 2 to John Ronyon [Roynon].").
Bates, Two Cartularies of the Benedictine Abbeys of Mulchelney &
Athelney (Somerset Rec. Soc. 14) (1899): 168-169. C.P.R. 1422-1429
(1901): 30. Weaver, Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 16)
(1901): 66-67. C.P.R. 1401-1405 (1905): 339. C.P.R. 1396-1399
(1909): 302, 591. Somerset & Dorset N&Q 16 (1920): 281-285 (Furneaux
pedigree dated 1421: "Et predicta Johanna [Longland] secunda filia
predicti Johannis [de Longland] et Isabelle marritata fuit Johanni
Roynon, et habuerunt exitum Johannem Roynon."). C.F.R. 9 (1926): 214-
215; 11 (1929): 305; 13 (1933): 239. Cornwall Feet of Fines, 2
(1950): 56. Chancery Proceeding, C 1/3/116 (Robert Yevelton, Knt. v.
Ralph Trenewith) (abstract of document available online at
http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp). Berkeley
Castle Muniments, BCM/H/3/7/1 (petition dated 1399-c.1412 from Robert
Yevelton, knight, lord of the manor of Trenewith and Trewishawnes, to
the king and privy council complaining that Ralph Trenewyth, who has
common of pasture in the manor, has trespassed on Robert's lands with
a number of followers, and has caused damage; he asks for redress)
(abstract of document available online at http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp).
Children of Joan Longland, by John Roynon:
a. JOHN ROYNON. He married _____. They had one son, William. In
1414 John was co-heir to his Furneaux cousin, Alice Blount (wife
successively of Richard Stafford and Richard Stury, Knt.), by which he
inherited the manor of Steyning, Somerset at the division of her
estates in 1421. VCH Somerset, 8 (1992): 145-146.
b. JOAN ROYNON, married HUGH MALET, Esq., of Enmore, Somerset, son
and heir of Baldwin Malet, Knt., of Enmore and Currypool (in
Charlinch), Somerset, by his 2nd wife, Amice, daughter and co-heiress
of Richard Lyffe (or Lyf), of Currypool (in Charlinch), Somerset.
They had one son, Thomas, Esq. HUGH MALET, Esq., died in 1465. His
widow, Joan, was living in 1467. Benolte, Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573
& 1591 (1885): 44-46 (Malet pedigree: "Hugh [Malet]. = Joan, d. John
Roynon."). Malet, Notices of an English Branch of the Malet Fam.
(1885): pedigree chart facing vii, 124-125. VCH Somerset, 6 (1992):
92-94.
iii. AGNES LONGLAND, minor in 1380. She married after 1380 JOHN
FARWAY (or FAREWAY), of Penhallam (in Jacobstow), Cornwall. They had
one son, John, and two daughters, Margaret and Joan. His wife, Agnes,
was a legatee in the 1414 will of her sister, Margaret Hakluyt, who
bequeathed her a silver cup with a cover. Agnes died before 1421.
Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 243-248 (Furneaux pedigree: "The 3rd Anne
[Longland] maryed John Farwaye, and had bytwixte them 2 doughters, the
one maryed with Stowell, the other with Berkley Lord of Tekenam and
Stowell. And Berkeley as one heyre had for hir parte the lands at
Warmester, and afterwards Stowell and Berkley made exchaunge, that
Barkley shuld have Warmester hole for his parte to hym and his heyres;
and Stowell to have as mych land therfor in Cornewaile, that was
Barkles before that exchange made."). Benolte, Vis. of Somerset 1531,
1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux pedigree: "Agnes [Longland], ux.
John ffareway."). Weaver, Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (Somerset Rec.
Soc. 16) (1901): 66-67. Somerset & Dorset N&Q, 11 (1909): 193-195
(Farway arms: Sable a chevron between three escallops argent); 16
(1920): 281-285 (Furneaux pedigree dated 1421: "Et predicta Annes
[Longland] tercia filia predicti Johannis [de Longland] et Isabelle
marritata fuit Johanni Fareway et habuerunt exitum Margaretam et
Johannam."). C.F.R. 9 (1926): 214-215. VCH Wiltshire, 8 (1965): 96-
103.
Children of Agnes Longland, by John Farway:
a. MARGARET FARWAY, married THOMAS SEYMOUR. They had one daughter,
_____ (wife of Thomas Berkeley). His wife, Margaret, died before
1421. Benolte, Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108
(Furneaux pedigree: "Margerett [Fareway], ux. John, sonn and heire of
Sr. Henery Semore."). Somerset & Dorset N&Q, 16 (1920): 281-285
(Furneaux pedigree dated 1421: "Et predicta Margareta prima filia
predicti Johannis [Fareway] et Agnetis marritata fuit Johanni Seymour,
filio et heredi Edmundi Seymour militis, et habuerunt exitum unam
filiam vocatam _____ que marritata fuit Johanni de Bercley."). VCH
Wiltshire, 8 (1965): 96-103.
Child of Margaret Farway, by Thomas Seymour:
1) _____ SEYMOUR, married THOMAS BERKELEY, of Tickenham,
Somerset. They had one son, John, and one daughter, Cecily (wife of
_____ Ashe [or Ayshe]). Benolte, Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591
(1885): 108 (Furneaux pedigree: "_____ [Seymour], ux. ... ux. Berkley of
Tykenham."). VCH Wiltshire, 8 (1965): 96-103.
b. JOAN FARWAY, married WALTER STAWELL. They had one son. His
wife, Joan, died before 1421. Benolte Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573 &
1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux pedigree: "Joane [Fareway], ux. Walter
Stowell."). Somerset & Dorset N&Q, 16 (1920): 281-285 (Furneaux
pedigree dated 1421: "Et predicta Johanna secunda filia predicti
Johannis [Fareway] et Agnetis marritata fuit Waltero Stowell et
habuerunt exitum unum filium vocatum _____ qui non est in plena
etate.").
6. MARGARET LONGLAND, daughter and co-heiress, born say 1350. She
married (1st) JOHN DEVIOCK (or DEVYOK, DEVIOKE). They had one
daughter, Margaret. JOHN DEVIOCK died before 16 Aug. 1380. She
married (2nd) before 1394 LEONARD HAKLUYT (or HAKELUYT), Knt., of
Stoke Edith, Herefordshire, and, in right of his wife, of Grove (in
South Brent), Somerset, and Degembris (in Newlyn East), Tremough, and
Carveth (in Mabe), Cornwall, Knight of the Shire for Herefordshire,
1385, 1388, 1394, Escheator of Herefordshire, 1401-1402, Sheriff of
Herefordshire, 1402, 1408-1409, Knight of the Shire for Somerset,
1404, 1406, son of Edmund Hakluyt, Knt., of Longland, Herefordshire,
by his wife, Emme. He was born about 1352. They had no issue. In
1394 and again in 1411, he and his wife, Margaret, made a settlement
of her lands. In 1404 he was granted the keeping of Mawardyn and Much
Marcle, Herefordshire as long as the manors remain in the king's
hand. He was a legatee in the 1410 will of Thomas Clanvowe, Knt. His
wife, Margaret, claimed the right to dig turves in the manor of
Edington, Somerset by a grant dated c.1269-1289 made by John Fitz
Geoffrey, lord of Edington, to her ancestor, Hugh de Langlonde and
Eleanor his wife. SIR LEONARD HAKLUYT left a will dated 3 August
1413, proved 17 August 1413. His widow, Margaret, took a vow of
perpetual chastity 2 Oct. 1413. In Jan. 1413/4 she was dispensed from
a vow she voluntarily made for life to fast every Saturday, which she
was unable to do owing to the infirmity of her body. In 1414 she was
co-heiress to her Furneaux cousin, Alice Blount (wife successively of
Richard Stafford and Richard Stury, Knt.). Margaret left a will dated
29 July 1414, proved 11 August 1414, requesting burial in the church
of the Friars Minor at Bridgwater, Somerset by her late husband, Sir
Leonard Hakluyt.
References:
Coll. Top. et Gen., 1 (1834): 243-248 (Furneaux pedigree: "The furst
doughter Margaret [Longland] maried Leonard Hakeluet, kt. of whom
commyth Stepulton of Shroppeshier, and had for his parte lands besides
Warmester, and in divers places."). Benolte, Vis. of Somerset 1531,
1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux pedigree: "Margerett [Longland], ux.
Leonard hackluit."). Antiquary, 14 (1886): 115 (Deviock arms: Party
per saltier argent and sable). Weaver Somerset Medieval Wills 1
(Somerset Rec. Soc. 16) (1901): 61-62, 66-67. Bubwith, Reg,. of
Nicholas Bubwith Bp. of Bath & Wells 1407-1424 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc.
29) (1914): 148, 167. Somerset & Dorset N&Q, 16 (1920): 281-285
(Furneaux pedigree dated 1421: "Et predicta Margareta [de Longland]
prima filia predictorum Johannis [de Longland] et Isabelle marritata
fuit Johanni Devyok et habuerunt exitum Margaretam [Devyok] que fuit
marritata Johanni Stepulton et habuerunt exitum Leonardum
Stepulton."). C.F.R. 9 (1926): 214-215; 12 (1931): 279-280. Rowe &
Tapley-Soper, Cornwall Feet of Fines 2 (Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc.
1950) (1950): 75, 109. Dunning, Hylle Cartulary (Somerset Rec. Soc.
68) (1968): 62. Roskell, House of Commons 1386-1421 3 (1992): 265-267
(biog. of Leonard Hakluyt). VCH Wiltshire, 8 (1965): 96-103.
Chancery Misc., 3 (List & Index Soc. 26) (1967): 255.
7. MARGARET DEVIOCK, daughter and heiress, evidently born before
1380. She married before 1400 (as his 1st wife) JOHN STAPLETON (or
STEPULTON), Esq., of Stapleton, Shropshire, Dormington, Herefordshire,
etc., Knight of the Shire for Shropshire, 1421, 2nd son of John
Stapleton, of Stapleton and Oaks (in Pontesbury), Shropshire, by
Katherine, 2nd daughter and co-heiress of Edward Burnell, of Langley,
Shropshire. They had one son, Leonard, Esq., and two daughters,
Margaret and Elizabeth. He married (2nd) MARGERY _____. They had
three daughters, Joyce (wife of Thomas Horde), Joan (wife of Thomas
Walwyn), and [Mary?] (wife of Walter Acton). In 1421 his 1st wife
Margaret's son, Leonard Stapleton, was her representative as one of
the co-heirs named in the division that year of the estates of her
Furneaux cousin, Alice (Blount) (Stafford) Stury. In 1438 there was a
fire at his moated manor house at Stapleton, Shropshire. In 1443 he
made a settlement of his manor, advowson, and various lands in
Stapleton, Shropshire, and as well as of one message and lands, also
in Stapleton. JOHN STAPLETON, Esq., was living in 1446, but died
before 1450.
References:
Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 243-248. Benolte Vis. of Somerset 1531,
1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux pedigree: "Margerett, ux. John
Stepleton."). Somerset & Dorset N&Q 16 (1920): 281-285 (Furneaux
pedigree dated 1421: "Et predicta Margareta [de Beaupre] prima filia
predictorum Johannis et Isabelle marritata fuit Johanni Devyok et
habuerunt exitum Margaretam [Devyok] que fuit marritata Johanni
Stepulton et habuerunt exitum Leonardum Stepulton."). Wedgwood, Hist.
of Parliament 1 (1936): 534-535 (biog. of John Leighton), 469 (biog.
of Thomas Horde). Roskell, House of Commons 1386-1421 3 (1992): 265-
267 (biog. of Leonard Hakluyt); 4 (1992): 461-462 (biog. of John
Stapleton). VCH Wiltshire, 8 (1965): 96-103. VCH Shropshire, 8
(1968): 164, 266.
Children of Margaret Deviock by John Stapleton, Esq.:
i. LEONARD STAPLETON, Esq., of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset,
and, in right of his 2nd wife, of Sezincote, Gloucestershire and
Milcote, Warwickshire, son and heir by his father's 1st marriage, born
in or before 1400 (of age in 1421). He was a legatee in the 1413 will
of his step-grandfather, Leonard Hakluyt, Knt., who bequeathed him
100s. He was a legatee in the 1414 will of his grandmother, Margaret
Hakluyt, who bequeathed him 10 marks. In the period, 1426-1432, he
sued Hugh Stapleton, Gent., and Hugh his son in Chancery for killing
his horses and cattle at Stapleton, Shropshire, and lying in wait to
kill him. He served as one of the feoffees for Edward Benstede, Knt.
in 1429. In 1435 he, John Greville, and others were pardoned for
acquiring the manor of Braunton Gorges, Devon without license from
Theobald Gorges alias Russell. He married (1st) before Trinity 1441
MARY _____. In 1441 he and his wife, Mary, sold the manor of Walton
in Gordano, Somerset to Thomas Hethe for 200 marks of silver. In
1442 he and his wife, Mary, settled his manor of Grove (in South
Brent), Somerset on themselves and their issue, with reversion to the
right heirs of Leonard. He married (2nd) before 1448 JOYCE COKESEY,
widow of John Greville, Esq. (died 1444), of Sezincote and Lasborough
(in Westonbirt), Gloucestershire, and daughter of Walter Cokesey.
Joyce was heiress in 1446 to her brother, Hugh Cokesey, Knt., by which
she inherited the manors of Tetbury, Gloucestershire, Bramley and
Little Cookham, Surrey, Bidlington (in Bramber), Sussex, and Great
Cooksey (in Upton Warren), Worcestershire. He was granted an
exemption for life from being put on assizes, juries, recognitions,
etc. in 1448. LEONARD STAPLETON, Esq., died before 1450. His widow,
Joyce, married (3rd) before c.1456 WALTER BEAUCHAMP, Knt. She founded
the chantry of St. Catherine in Kidderminster, Worcestershire in
1469. Joyce died in 1473, and was buried in Kidderminster,
Worcestershire. Lysons & Lysons, Magna Britannia 5 (1817): 129-142.
Benolte, Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573 & 1591 (1885): 108 (Furneaux
pedigree: "Leonard Stepleton."). C.P.R. 1422-1429 (1901): 539.
Weaver, Somerset Medieval Wills, 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 16) (1901): 61-
62, 66-67. Green, Feet of Fines for Somerset 4 (Somerset Rec. Soc.
22) (1906): 100, 103. C.P.R. 1429-1436 (1907): 456. C.P.R. 1446-1452
(1909): 154. VCH Surrey, 3 (1911): 80-86, 335-338. VCH Worcester, `3
(1913): 173-179, 231-234. VCH Sussex, 6(1) (1960): 200-214. VCH
Gloucester 6 (1965): 100; 11 (1976): 264-269, 285-288. VCH Wiltshire,
8 (1965): 96-103. VCH Shropshire, 8 (1968): 164. Chancery
Proceedings, C 1/7/159 (Date: 1426-1432: Leonard Stepilton, Esq. v.
Hugh Stepilton, Gent. and Hugh his son); C 1/17/64 (Date:1407-1456:
Joice, widow of Sir Walter Beauchamp, Knt., and late the wife of
Leonard ? (Lethonarde) Stepulton, esq. v. William Bastard, William
Arthoure, and John Hawkesby, feoffees of the said Leonard re. manor of
Grove (in South Brent), Somerset and lands, &c. in Warminster,
Wiltshire) (abstract of documents available online at
http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp).
ii. MARGARET STAPLETON. She was a legatee in the 1414 will of her
grandmother, Margaret Hakluyt, who bequeathed her 10 marks. She
married after 1414 _____ (possibly JOHN STAPLETON). They had two
daughters, Mary and Christian. Margaret died before 1455. Weaver,
Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 16) (1901): 66-67. VCH
Wiltshire, 8 (1965): 96-103.
Children of Margaret Stapleton, by unknown husband, _____ (possibly
John Stapleton):
a. MARY STAPLETON, married ROBERT MONTFORT, Esq., of Church
Bickenhall, Warwickshire [see BOOTH 12].
b. CHRISTIAN STAPLETON, daughter and co-heiress. She married
(1st) before 1455 ROBERT CRESSETT, of Upton Cressett, Shropshire,
Sheriff of Shropshire, 1468-1469, son and heir of Hugh Cressett,
Sheriff of Shropshire, 1435. They had one son, Thomas, Esq. In 1455
Robert and his wife, Mary, and her fellow Stapleton co-heirs presented
to the Free Chapel of St. John the Baptist at Stapleton, Shropshire.
In 1483 her cousin, William Roynon, quitclaimed all his land he had in
Warminster, Wiltshire which he had by feoffment of Leonard Stapleton
to George Booth and his wife, Katherine, John Leighton, and Robert
Cressett and his wife, Christian. ROBERT CRESSETT left a will proved
in 1490. His widow, Christian, married (2nd) _____ EYTON, and (3rd)
_____ BURTON. Eyton, Antiqs. of Shropshire 6 (1858): 118. Tresswell
& Vincent, Vis. of Shropshire 1623, 1569 & 1584 1 (H.S.P. 28) (1889):
157-158 (Cressett pedigree: "Robertus Cressett de Uton Cresset in com.
Salop [Sheriff 1469].= Xpiana fil. et hær. Joh'es Stepleton de
Stepleton mil. 2 nupta .... Eyton et 3 [postea] .... Byrton Burton.").
List of Sheriffs for England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898):
118. VCH Wiltshire, 8 (1965): 96-103.
Child of Christian Stapleton, by Robert Cressett:
1). THOMAS CRESSETT, Esq., of Upton Cressett, Shropshire
married JANE CORBET [see MORE 14].
iii. ELIZABETH STAPLETON, married EDWARD LEIGHTON. They had one
son, John, Esq. EDWARD LEIGHTON died in 1455. His wife, Elizabeth,
predeceased him. Wedgwood, Hist. of Parliament 1 (1936): 534-535
(biog. of John Leighton). VCH Shropshire, 8 (1968): 164.
Child of Elizabeth Stapleton, by Edward Leighton:
a. JOHN LEIGHTON, Esq., of Stretton en le Dale, Shropshire,
Knight of the Shire for Shropshire, 1460-1461, (?1463-1465), 1467-
1468, 1472-1475, 1478, Steward of Bishop's Castle, 1463, Sheriff of
Shropshire, 1467-1468, 1473-1474, 1481-1482, Escheator of Shropshire,
1488-1489, Steward of Pontesbury, Shropshire, 1474, Constable of
Oswestry Castle, 1476, 2nd son, born in 1430. He married before 1453
ANKARET BURGH, daughter and co-heiress of John Burgh, Knt., of
Wattlesborough. They had one son, Thomas, Knt. His wife, Ankaret,
died in or before 1471. In 1481 the Bishop of Hereford allowed him as
a "discrete man" to have a chapel at Stretton, Shropshire. In 1480-
1483 he was sued by the Abbot of Buildwas who accused him and his son,
William, of breaking into a chapel and tearing up the hedges on the
abbey pastures. JOHN LEIGHTON, Esq., died shortly before 4 Feb.
1496. Wedgwood, Hist. of Parliament 1 (1936): 534-535 (biog. of John
Leighton). VCH Shropshire, 8 (1968): 164.
Robert O'Connor
"Douglas Richardson" <royala...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1186957574.0...@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
Dear Newsgroup ~
<snip
b. JOAN ROYNON, married HUGH MALET, Esq., of Enmore, Somerset, son
and heir of Baldwin Malet, Knt., of Enmore and Currypool (in
Charlinch), Somerset, by his 2nd wife, Amice, daughter and co-heiress
of Richard Lyffe (or Lyf), of Currypool (in Charlinch), Somerset.
They had one son, Thomas, Esq. HUGH MALET, Esq., died in 1465. His
widow, Joan, was living in 1467. Benolte, Vis. of Somerset 1531, 1573
& 1591 (1885): 44-46 (Malet pedigree: "Hugh [Malet]. = Joan, d. John
Roynon."). Malet, Notices of an English Branch of the Malet Fam.
(1885): pedigree chart facing vii, 124-125. VCH Somerset, 6 (1992):
92-94.
<snip
I am interested in the references to the Malet family of Enmore & Currypool.
Can DR or anyone else tell me if any of the above references given for this
family refer to an "Eleanor Malet, daughter of Baldwin Malet of Currypool"
who was wife of Sir William Hody, MP, of Pilsdon, Dorset, Chief Baron of the
Excehquer who died in 1524.
Sir William Hody appears to have been born circa 1440, which suggests that
his wife may have been the daughter of the Sir Baldwin Malet to whom DR
refers to above.
Many thanks
Robert O'Connor
John Higgins
include Eleanor, wife of Sir William Hody, as a daughter of Baldwin Malet of
Enmore by either of his two wives. But the text of the book says that she
was his daughter, but by his first wife Elizabeth, dau. of Sir Thomas
Trivet.
However, this seems chronologically unlikely, given what is known about the
dates of Sir William Hody, who d. in 1524 and may have been born ca. 1440.
Baldwin Malet's second wife Amice or Amicia is mentioned as his widow in
1426 and was married to him at least by 1402. If Eleanor was indeed by his
first marriage she would have been far too old to to be the wife of Sir
William Hody, and even assigning her to the second marriage seems a bit of a
stretch chronologically, since she would have to have been born at least 15
years before the suggested birth date of her husband.
I suspect that Eleanor may be mis-identified as a daughter of Baldwin and
may in fact be a daughter of his son Hugh. [Baldwin also had a son John by
his first marriage who had a daughter named Eleanor, but she is said to have
been married to John Hull.] But this is simply a guess at this
point....Eleanor's parentage should probably be considered unknown at
present.
The visitation pedigree cited by DR does not mention Eleanor as a daughter
of Baldwin by either marriage, nor does Collinson's Somerset.
BTW, the original message in this thread was posted to SGM (and cross-posted
to SHM) but has not yet made it through the gateway to Gen-Med. Perhaps it
was too long? Is there a size limit on messages going through the gateway -
in either direction?
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> BTW, the original message in this thread was posted to SGM (and cross-posted
> to SHM) but has not yet made it through the gateway to Gen-Med. Perhaps it
> was too long? Is there a size limit on messages going through the gateway -
> in either direction?
Dear Robert and John ~
Thank you both for your useful posts. Much appreciated.
I don't have the answer to Robert's question regarding Eleanor Malet,
wife of Sir William Hody. However, with a bit of luck, it should be
possible to correctly place Eleanor Malet in the Malet family tree.
Regarding John's comment that the original has not made it through the
gateway to Gen-Med due to excessive length, I believe he is right
about that. When I have time this week, I'll repost the message in
two parts and see if that solves the problem.
robinwi...@talktalk.net
I have read a number of your posts with great interest but in this case, wonder if you would care to comment on the descent of Isabel FitzRoy/la Blanche shown in J L Vivian's 1887 version of the Visitations of Cornwall, specifically pages 30 & 31 Bevil of Gwarnacke pedigree and pages 494 & 495 Trevethan pedigree. The former has Elizabeth daughter of Isabel la Blanche and, by deduction, Simon FitzIve marrying into the Petit family. The latter has isabell la Blanche marrying Robert FitzIva with son Richard (d. 1281?) producing daughter Isabell (d. 4 April 1313) who married Sir Belym Heligan.
Isabel la Blanche's ggggg grandson John Petit marries her gg granddaughter Isabella Heligan.
Is there a factual basis to any of this?
(I notice that there are five generations of Petit alive in the 35 year reign of Edward I.presumably some of the Johns should be amalgamated - and possibly the the two Michaels also).
Yours
Robin Wilmington