King Robert Bruce I of Scotland

[JeanSm]

Does anyone have the first 3 generations for his ancestry, in England? Please e
mail jea...@aol.com

[KWhi...@aol.com]

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR ROBERT I BRUCE [KINGOFSCOTLAND] 25 Sep 1998
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1st GENERATION
1 Robert I BRUCE [King of Scotland]: b 11 Jul 1274 Writtle,near
Chelmsford,Essex,England; m 1296 ; d 7 Jun
1329 Cardross,Dumbartonshire,Scotland
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2nd GENERATION
2 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
3 Margaret de CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
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3rd GENERATION
4 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m
1240 ; d Bef May 1294
5 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
6 Neil de CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
7 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]
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4th GENERATION
8 Robert the Noble BRUCE [1st Lord Annandale]: m Abt 1205 ; d
1245
9 Isabel [of Huntingdon]: b 1206 ; d 1251 Saltre
Abbey,Gloucester,England
10 Gilbert de CLARE [1st Earl Of Gloucester]: b Abt 1180 ; m 9
Oct 1214 Tewkesbury,Gloucester; d 25 Oct 1230
11 Isabel MARSHAL [of Pembroke]: b 9 Oct 1200 Castle
Pembroke,Wales; d 15 Jan 1239/1240 Berkhamsted Castle,
Hertfordshire,England
12 Duncan de CARRICK [1st Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1170 ; m 1200 ;
d 13 Jun 1250
13 Aveline FITZ-ALAN [of Carrick]
14 Walter STEWART [3rd High Stewart]: m Abt 1223 ; ,Scotland; d
1241
15 Beatrix ANGUS [Countess Of Angus]: b Bef 1200
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5th GENERATION
16 William de BRUS
17 Christina
18 David [Earl Of Huntingdon]: b Abt 1144 ; m 26 Aug 1190 ; d
17 Jun 1219 Yardley,England
19 Maud KEVELIOK [of Chester]: d 1233
20 Richard de CLARE [3rd Earl Hertford]: b Abt 1162 ; d Nov 1217
21 Amicia FITZ WILLIAM [Countess Gloucester]: b Abt 1160 ; d
1225
22 William MARSHAL [1st Earl of Pembroke]: b Abt 1146 ; m Aug
1189 London,England; d 14 May 1219 Caversham
23 Isabel de CLARE [4th of Pembroke]: b Abt 1174 ; d 1220
24 Gilbert FITZ FERGUS [of Carrick]: b Abt 1126
Carrick,Ayrshire,Scotland; d 1 Jan 1185
26 Alan FITZ WALTER [2nd High Stewart]: b Aft 1180 ; d 1204
27 Eve
28 Same as individual #26
29 Same as individual #27
30 Gilchrist ANGUS [3d Earl of Angus]: b Bef 1180
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Hope this helps you,

Regards,

Ky W. White

[U...@aol.com]

Below is the information regarding the direct lineage of Robert the Bruce,
beginning with the early 1000's A.D. Although this information can be found
through several sources, the most concise is in a book titled, Signers of the
Magna Carta.

BRUSSE, Earl of Caithness and Sunderland, died in 1031 A.D. He married Ostrida
of Gothland, and they
HAD
ROGNVALD (died in 1046 A.D.) was the General in the Army of King of Olaf in
Norway. Through his second wife, Felicia of Normandy, he
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a son, Brusi, who as far as can be found was the first to be called "Robert de
Brusse". BRUSI (Robert de Brusse) married Emma of Brittany, circa 1020 A.D. in
Normandy.
HAD
ROBERT de BRUSSE, 2nd. came with William the Conqueror from Normandy in 1066.
married Agnes St. Clair (died 1080). Robert died in 1094.
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ADAM de BRUSE, went to England in 1050 as attendant to Queen Emma, daughter of
Richard I of Normandy. He married Emma Ramsay.
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ROBERT de BRUSSE, 3rd who was born in 1078 and died in 1141. He married Agnes
Bruce (Agnes Paynell) of Annandale, a distant cousin.
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ROBERT BRUCE of Annandale married Euphemia.
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ROBERT BRUCE II (Robert le Meschin), Lord of Annandale, died in 1194. He
married Isabel of Scotland, daughter of William the Lion, King of Scotland.
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WILLIAM BRUCE, 3rd Baron of Annanadale, died in 1215. He married Christina.
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ROBERT BRUCE, 4th Baron of Annandale, died in 1245. He married Isobel of
Huntingdone who died in 1252.
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SIR ROBERT BRUCE, Lord of Annandale was born 1210, died on March 31, 1295. In
May, 1240 married Isabella de Clare who was born on Nov. 2, 1226
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SIR ROBERT BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, born in July 1243 and died before June
14, 1302. In 1271, married, first, Marjorie (Marjory) Carrick, Countess of
Carrick.
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ROBERT the BRUCE, Earl of Carrick, Lord Brus, King of Scotland. Was born on
July 11 (some records say 12th) 1274 and died on Jun 7, 1329.He married,
first, Isabel Mar, who died in 1297; second marriage to Elizabeth of Ulster.

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Always optimistic--Dave

[John Carmi Parsons]

I've never seen the earlier generations of this family, which seem to be
quite fanciful. In any event, the name Bruce is usually derived from Brix in
Normandy. _The Scots Peerage_, ii, 428f, begin the verifiable pedigree with
the Robert de Brus or Brix who is thought to have m. Emma, dau. of Alan count
of Brittany (who rarely appears in accounts of that family). They were the
parents of:

Adam de Brus d. ca 1080, lord of Skelton (Yorkshire) m. ?Emma, dau. of William
de Ramsay. With a yr son William, prior of Gisburne (d. 1155) they had:

Robert de Brus d. 1141 m. Agnes, dau of Fulk Paynel. The eldest son of
this marriage continued the Skelton line (for which see Sanders, _English
Baronies_, s.v. "Skelton"). A younger son, Payn, may have been ancestor
of a Bruce family seated at Pickering. Another yr son,

Robert Bruce d. 1194 m. Euphemia (parentage unknown) and had two sons.
The elder, Robert d.s.p. 1191 m. 1183 Isabel, natural dau of William the
Lion; she surv. him and m. 2 Robert de Ros. The younger son,

William d. 1215, m. Christiana who, as his widow, m. Patrick earl of
Dunbar. The eldest son

Robert `the Noble' d. 1245, m. Isabella of Huntingdon d. 1252 (NS), through
whom King Robert Bruce's right to the throne derived. Their son Robert d.
1294 was the original Bruce competitor for the throne, grandfather of the
king.

From this point the line is well documented.

John Parsons

[Reedpcgen]

The earliest generations are indeed fanciful, at least the connection to the
Bruces is. The Complete Peerage, v. 10, Appendix A, p. 14, explains that the
name of the wife of Ragnvald II Bruisson, Jarl of two-thirds of Orkney, b.
1011, murdered Dec. 1046, is not recorded, and that he had a son named Eilif.
There is no son who would have come to be called Robert de Brusse. Remember
that the particle "de" means "of" as in of a place.

I'm afraid you've been taken in by this one Dave, but don't dispair. Maybe
you'll get a descent from Vikings named bearing epithets like "Bloodaxe" or
"Skull-cleaver" some other way. ; )

pcr