Gov. Thomas Dudley and the Sutton-Dudleys?
EcollierD
I am attempting to research my ancestor Thomas Dudley, born 1576 at Yardley
Hastings, who became colonial governor of Massachusetts. I would like to
verify his descent from the Sutton/Dudleys, and am particularly intrigued by
his possible connection to Sir Edmund Dudley, executed by Henry VIII in 1510.
Any tips or information from Dudley researchers would be greatly appreciated
by this novice. Thanks very much.
Eliza
Nathaniel Taylor
In article <19971004134...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
ecol...@aol.com (EcollierD) wrote:
> Any tips or information from Dudley researchers would be greatly appreciated.
On March 13, 1997, in response to an identical query, I posted the
following on this group:
Mr. Marshall Kirk, of the New England Historic Genealogical Society, has
conducted a thorough review (as yet unpublished) of the *SIX*
previously-published theories of descent of Gov. Thomas Dudley's father
from baronial Sutton-Dudleys (which include the one you have mentioned).
Mr. Kirk offers a seventh choice, which (like the others) has not been
proven by recovery of definitive documentary evidence of paternity, but
which (unlike the others) appears to corroborate all the known
circumstantial evidence for these Dudleys' connections with the baronial
stem. This line also appears in the most recent edition of Gary Boyd
Roberts' _Ancestors of American Presidents_ (1st authoritative ed.,
Baltimore, 1993), pp. 200-201. Briefly, Marshall's theory of the
governor's descent
is as follows:
Sir John Sutton, alias Dudley, 1st Baron Dudley, d. 1487, m. Elizabeth Berkeley
Edmund Sutton, alias Dudley, d. v. p. 1483/7, m. Joice Tibetot
Edward Sutton, alias Dudley, 2d Baron Dudley, d. 1532, m. Cecily Willoughby
John Sutton alias Dudley, 3d Baron Dudley, d. 15 Sep 1553, d. Cecily Grey
<lord John was a half-wit and died penniless, so there is no will or ipm,
but he had at least five sons, including:>
Capt. Sir Henry Dudley, d. 1568/70 (who has been at times confused with
two other contemporary Sir Henry Dudleys), m. __, dau. or stepdau. of
Christopher Ashton
<Capt. Sir Henry was exiled for treason and later restored, but d. deep in
debt, leaving no will or ipm. His issue unproven but (for var. reasons
argued by Marshall) prob. included:>
Capt. Roger Dudley, m. Susanna Thorne
Gov. Thomas Dudley
These findings are presented in typescripts entitled 'The Filiation of
Capt. Roger Dudley: a Terse Summary of Points Made in Marshall K. Kirk's
Talk, 20 Nov. 1993' and 'Sutton-Dudley, 1380-1649: a (Partially) Corrected
Pedigree by Marshall K. Kirk (updated 14 December 1995)'. Serious
researchers who share an interest in this question may wish to contact Mr.
Kirk through the New England Historic Genealogical Society in Boston. I
cannot presume to say whether copies of these MSS are distributed freely
by the Society.
Nat Taylor
Nat Taylor
EWSwan
In article <ntaylor-0410...@ntaylor.student.harvard.edu>,
nta...@fas.harvard.edu (Nathaniel Taylor) writes:
>Mr. Kirk offers a seventh choice, which (like the others) has not been
>proven by recovery of definitive documentary evidence of paternity, but
>which (unlike the others) appears to corroborate all the known
>circumstantial evidence for these Dudleys' connections with the baronial
>stem. This line also appears in the most recent edition of Gary Boyd
>Roberts' _Ancestors of American Presidents_ (1st authoritative ed.,
>Baltimore, 1993), pp. 200-201. Briefly, Marshall's theory of the
>governor's descent
This seventh choice also appears in David Faris' _Plantagenet Ancestry of
Seventeenth-Century Colonists_ 1st ed. 1996 Genealogical Publishing Co. P.91-94.