Bassaraba [Iain Moncrieffe, ha-ha...]

[sellatho...@yahoo.com]

Good morning,

I ' d be most grateful if someone could give me some details about sir
Iain Moncrieffe of That Ilk, author of "Royal Highness". When was this
book published ?

" There seems no reason to doubt that Thochomerius, father of Basarab
the Great, Prince of Valachia, 1310-1328 [1310-1352 - n.n.], was one of
the two contemporary Tartar princes both named Toktemir in that area
[which area ?], both great-grandsons of prince Juchi, first khan of the
Golden Horde (died 1224), predeceasing eldest son of Genghis Khan".

!?!?!!!!... This is a sample of the famous superficiality and
ignorance that characterises the "armchair historians".
As it happens, the "single", "unique" and "insignificant" "reason to
doubt" concerns just the archives of four countries (Roumania, Hungary,
Serbia, Bulgaria), heraldry, mediaeval sigillias, linguistics, factual
history, toponymy, geography.
But of course, thinking about such reasons, making more research and
THEN writing is really toooooooo difficult for sensationalist,
"Discovery"-like, armchair historians....

Radu-Bogdan

[Leo van de Pas]

The book was published when Lady Diana Spencer was pregnant and before
Prince William was born. The book shows copyright 1982.

Hope this helps?
Leo van de Pas

[sellatho...@yahoo.com]

Thank you so much. It does help, but it amazes me even more ! in 1982
there was so much information available about the Bassaraba that I
wonder now if the author did not do that on purpose : to "give" just a
little bit of Mongol blood to the Windsors... Pointless. The origins of
the Bassaraba (Basarab) are Transylvanian (Roumanian), 13th century.

Thank you again.

Radu Bogdan

"Leo van de Pas" a scris:

[Todd A. Farmerie]

sellatho...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Thank you so much. It does help, but it amazes me even more ! in 1982
> there was so much information available about the Bassaraba that I
> wonder now if the author did not do that on purpose : to "give" just a
> little bit of Mongol blood to the Windsors... Pointless. The origins of
> the Bassaraba (Basarab) are Transylvanian (Roumanian), 13th century.

Perhaps you could provide some further details for those of us,
apparently like Moncrieffe, who are unfamiliar with the information to
which you refer.

taf

[David Rorer]

<sellatho...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Good morning,
>
> I ' d be most grateful if someone could give me some details about sir
> Iain Moncrieffe of That Ilk,

Sir Iain Moncreiffe, 24th of that Ilk, Albany Herald, was educated at Stoe,
Heidelberg, Oxford University and Edinburgh University (LL.B., Ph.D.) and is
a fellow of the Society of Antiquaries both in England and Scotland.
Chairman of the Scottish Genealogy Society, he is also a member of the
Committee of the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs, the Council of the
Harleian Society, and is on the Advisory Committee of the Scottish national
Portrait Gallery.
He has broadcast on radio and television; has been lecturer on Highland
castles for the National Trust for Scotland; and author of numerous articles
and several books, including Simple Heraldry, Simple Custom, Blood Royal,
The Robertsons; Clannachaidh of Atholl, and the 'Map of Scotland of old."

The above was taken from the dust jacket of "The Highland Clans" by Sir Ian
Moncreiffe of that Ilk, published in 1967. I believe that he has been
deceased for some years.

[Peter Stewart]

"David Rorer" <dro...@fuse.net> wrote in message
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>
> <sellatho...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1124778143.3...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I ' d be most grateful if someone could give me some details about sir
>> Iain Moncrieffe of That Ilk,
>
> Sir Iain Moncreiffe, 24th of that Ilk, Albany Herald, was educated at
> Stoe, Heidelberg, Oxford University and Edinburgh University (LL.B.,
> Ph.D.) and is a fellow of the Society of Antiquaries both in England and
> Scotland. Chairman of the Scottish Genealogy Society, he is also a member
> of the Committee of the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs, the Council
> of the Harleian Society, and is on the Advisory Committee of the Scottish
> national Portrait Gallery.

He WAS all of these, but not any more. He has been dead for many years.

Peter Stewart