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Montague of Boveney

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1999-07-03 03:00:001999-07-03
kam:
 [Barb wrote:]
Descendants of John Montacute
 
1  John Montacute,  d: 1396,  s/o William Montacute and Katherine
Grandison
. +Margaret Monthermer, d/o Thomas Monthermer.   
.... 2  Richard Montacute   
.... 2  Thomas Montacute   
.... 2  Sybil Montacute   
.... 2  Catherine Montacute   
.... 2  Margaret Montacute   
.... 2  John Montacute b: 1357  d: 1400
........  +Maud Francis  m: Abt. 1387, d/o Adam Francis
........... 3  Richard Montague   

The line BREAKS here. This Richard Montagu, chivaler, died without issue in
1429, holding lands and manors in Wiltshire, Dorset, Somerset and Kent [see
Caley and Bayley, Calendarium IPM, 4:127; VCH Wilts. 15:30].

................. 4  Edward Montague   
........................ 5  Robert Montague b: 1455 Boveney, Berkshire,
England  d: 1520 Boveney, Berkshire, England
.............................. 6  Robert Montague   
.............................. 6  John Montague   

There is no evidence I've seen for the existence of Edward (above). I have
also not seen any evidence for the genealogical connections given for the names
in generations 5 and 6 (above). _Certificate of Musters for Buckinghamshire,
1522_ [Buck. RS 17:246-8], lists William, William Sr., William, John, Agnes,
John, and Robert Montague at Boveney, etc., but relationships are not stated.
The _Subsidy Roll for the County of Buckinghamshire, Anno 1524_ [BucksRS 8:14]
only lists Robert and John Montague. No wills were listed for this family for
this period in the PCC, and I believe the Archdeaconry of Buckingham is also
nil.

.............................. 6  William Montague b: 1480 Boveney,
Berkshire, England  d: March 21, 1549/50 Boveney, Berkshire, England
..................................  +Jone Grow   

This William Montague was not father of Robert (below). He was a "Fyssherman,"
and when he wrote his will 16 March 1550/1, though he named a son Robert, THAT
Robert was then a minor (born after 1529/30), and hence not old enough to be
your Robert. "Robt'e Mountagewe of Bovney" was an overseer of William's will,
with Thomas Grow, so William might have been brother of your Robert. So the
EARLIEST proven generation begins at your generation 7:

..................................... 7  Robert Montague b: 1505
Boveney, Berkshire, England  d: January 10, 1574/75 Boveney, Berkshire,
England
.........................................  +Margaret Cotton b:
Wardville, Berkshire, England  d: Boveney, Berkshire, England,  d/o
Roger Cotton
............................................ 8  William Montague b: 1536
Boveney, Berkshire, England  d: March 20, 1593/94 Boveney,
Berkshire, England
................................................  +Margaret M. Malthouse
b: Binfield, Berkshire, England m: 1557,  d/o John Malthouse and
Margaret Bullock 
.........

There had been a royal descent claimed through the Malthouse ancestry, but it
is false, in this instance. William Montague married Margaret in 1560. She
had married (1) 3 July 1552, Thomas Grove, yeoman, who died leaving a will in
1558. They had one daughter, Anne Grove, bp. at Binfield 13 Nov. 1554. Though
the Visitation pedigree states she was daughter of John Malthouse, she is NOT
the Margaret who was daughter of the John Malthouse who married Margaret
Bullock, as that Margaret was bp. at Binfield 15 Feb. 1558.

So there is no known earlier ancestry than is presented above, at this point.
There was a large group of Montagues at Winkfield, Berkshire, not far away--so
many, in fact, that they must have resided there for many generations before
the reign of Elizabeth I. But no Montague or Cotton/Calton/Catton was listed
in "Gentry of Berkshire, 1434" [Elias Ashmole, _The Antiquities of Berkshire_
(1719)]. Also note that the arms born by the Montague family of Boveny are
unique, and could have been a grant. Finally, the article by Myrtle, which
presents much detail on the proven descent, was not in TAG, but in NEHGR
142(1988):149-64.

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