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M.Sjostrom

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Nov 8, 2009, 1:27:08 PM11/8/09
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this is interesting and useful data.

so, Peter is reporting that Adam's those daughters would have been legitimate and born of his (protestant-era) wife, Janet Ruthven.
That Janet Ruthven, I gather, was daughter of this William Ruthven, of Ballindean, meaning this sort of roots:
http://genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00275760&tree=LEO&parentset=0&display=standard&generations=5

For the sake of having it precise:
is the baptismal record of 1561 (at Perth) positively reporting that Janet Ruthven was the mother ? or, does it only mention the name of the father?
Is the testamentary document of Janet Ruthven mentioning that Marie and/or Barbara were her daughters?

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it is intriguing to see that Barbara Stewart (and possibly also that Marie Stewart too) would been daughters of Janet Ruthven.
Because, then the Sinclair men in swedish service since 1630s, would have been cousins of the prominently-Sweden-serving general 'Pater Rotwein'.
Namely, the famously alcoholic, Patrick Ruthven, 1st earl of Forth and Brentford,
served Gustav II Adolf in Germanies, was a general or otherwise high officer in command in Swedish troops, and for his alcoholic conduct known as 'Patrik redwine' and the Father of Redwine (rotwein= red wine) rather than a pale 'Ruthven'.
Outline of this Ruthven kinship:

William Ruthven, laird of Ballindean
children included:

1 William Ruthven, laird of Ballindean.
One of sons:

1.2 Patrick Ruthven, general in swedish service, 1st earl of Forth and Brentford

2 Janet Ruthven; married Adam Stewart
daughters:

2.1 Barbara Stewart; married (c1580) H.Halcro, in Orkney
children included:

2.1.1 Barbara Halcro - the first wife of William/Viljalm Sinkler, laird of Brabister and Tolhobe, acquired also Seabay in or bef 1621
sons in SWEDISH service:

2.1.1.1 Jon Sinkler

2.1.1.2 David Sinkler, owner of Finnekumla

2.2 Marie Stewart; married (in about May 1580) Jon Sinkler, laird of Tolhobe and Skaill
children included:

2.2.1 Viljalm/William, mentioned above

2.2.2 James Sinkler, in Rendale in Orkney
2.2.2.1 Jon Sinkler, in Brugh
his son Andrew/Anders also found to Swedish service


John...@compuserve.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:21:59 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:27:08 -0800 (PST), "M.Sjostrom" <qs...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

This Swedish Sinkler genealogy is wrong
The William Sinclair of Toab who married Patrick Irving's widow,Jean
Gordon by 1615 could not have been married to Barbara Halcrow as she
was alive in 1648.This William was the son of John Sinclair and Mary
Stewart,Earl Robert's niece

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