LEO VI- Emperor of Byzantium
l. akershoek
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal/royal00.htm
> Have a look and let me know what you think. It is not fully finished as
yet.
and listed:
>> ............
>> Michael III, Emperor (8423-867)
>> Leo VI "The Wise" (886-912)
>> Anna
>> .........
According to the Dutch encyclopaedia "Winkler Prins" (which, of course, can
be wrong), the father of Leo was Basilius I.
As Basilius was the latest ancestor I had in my Byzantine listing, the
descendants(?) from Xerxes (521-465) to LEO VI (866-May 11, 912 at
Constantinople) e-mailed by Leo van de Pas are for me very interesting.
However, I would like to know if other persons have read also elsewhere of
Basilius being Leo's father, and if so who the ancestors of Basilius were.
According to Winkler OPrins, Leo VI was the father of Constantine VII.
Any comments, please.
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Leo Akershoek
l.ake...@hccnet.nl
John Yohalem
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Basil I was the favorite of Michael III. In 867, he secured Michael's murder
and ascended the throne himself, reigning till 888 and founding one of
Byzantium's greatest dynasties. Like any other usurper, he spent much of his
time blackening the reputation of his predecessor, in order to make his
usurpation (and ingratitude) seem patriotic and just.
However, it appears that Basil's wife had indeed been Michael's mistress at
some point, and that for this reason Basil regarded his second son, Leo, as
not necessarily his. What this might have led to we do not know, but Basil's
eldest son, Constantine, died young, to his father's great grief, and the
youngest, Alexander, was far too young to be chosen successor. So Basil was
obliged to recognize Leo as his son and heir. So far as we know, this was
accurate, but there were stories that Leo was Michael's son, and for
purposes of genealogical speculation this theory is much beloved. Whether
Leo has any living descendants is also problematic -- his only son was
Constantine VII, whose descendants became extinct in 1056 with the death of
Empress Theodora, last of the dynasty.
Many doubt that Leo's daughter lived to reach adulthood, much less marry an
obscure prince in Western Europe (the only marriage link between an imperial
princess and a Westerner in all the many centuries before the 12th, when it
suddenly becomes politically necessary and, hence, common). Just as many
(especially genealogists) like to believe Leo's daughter DID marry Louis the
Blind and bear his son, Charles Constantine, which gives us the only
genealogical descent between the pre-Crusade Byzantine emperors and modern
Western Europe. This matter has been thrashed out again and again on this
(and other) ngs, and the only conclusion is that: those who think it's true,
think it's true, and those who do not, do not. The evidence is not
conclusive either way.
I'm very suspicious of the descent from Xerxes to Michael III, but I'd love
to have a peek at it.
Jean Coeur de Lapin
John Yohalem
ench...@herodotus.com
"Opera depends on the happy fiction that feeling can be sustained over
impossibly long stretches of time." -- Joseph Kerman
DavidBotts
>Just as many (especially genealogists) like to believe Leo's daughter DID
marry Louis the Blind and bear his son, Charles Constantine, which gives us the
only genealogical descent between the pre-Crusade Byzantine emperors and modern
Western Europe.
OK, based on this statement, one of these links is amiss. Who can spot it?
Thanks,
Dave Botts
1 Basileos I 'of the Byzantine Empire' b: 812 Adrianople, (now Turkey)
*2nd Wife of Basileos I 'of the Byzantine Empire':
.... +Eudoxia Ingerina 'of the Byzantine Empire' b: Abt. 835 Constantinople,
(now Turkey)
2 Leon VI 'of the Byzantine Empire' b: September 19, 866 Constantinople,
(now Turkey)
..... +Zoe Karbonopsina b: Abt. 885 Constantinople, (now Turkey)
. 3 Konstantinos VII 'of the Byzantine Empire' b: Bef. November 905
Constantinople, (now Turkey)
....... +Eleni Lekapene 'of the Byzantine Empire' b: Abt. 906 Constantinople,
(now Turkey)
... 4 Romanos II 'of the Byzantine Empire' b: 940 Constantinople, (now
Turkey)
......... +Theophano 'of the Byzantine Empire' b: Abt. 936 Constantinople,
(now Turkey)
..... 5 Theophano 'of the Byzantine Empire' b: Abt. 956 Constantinople, (now
Turkey)
........... +Otto II 'of Germany' b: 955 (now Germany)
....... 6 Mathilde 'of Saxony' b: Abt. 979 Saxony (now Germany)
............. +Ezzo 'of Lorraine' b: Abt. 955 Lorraine (now France)
......... 7 Richeza 'of Lorraine' b: Abt. 994 Lorraine (now France)
............... +Mieszko II Lambert 'of Poland' b: 990 Poznan (now Poland)
........... 8 Casimir I 'of Poland' b: 1016 area now Poland
................. +Dobronega 'van Kiev' b: Bet. 999 - 1011 of Kiev (area now
Russia)
............ 9 Swatawa 'of Poland' b: WFT Est. 1035-1045 of area now Poland
.................. +Vratislav II 'of Bohemia' b: 1032 of Bohemia (now Germany)
.............. 10 [45] Judith 'of Bohemia' b: 1065
.................... +[31] Vladislav I 'of Poland' b: 1043 area now Poland
................ 11 Boleslas III 'of Poland' b: 1085 of Poland
...................... +Zbyslava 'van Kiëv' b: Bet. 1052 - 1100
.................. 12 Ladislas II 'of Karkow and Silesia' b: 1105
........................ +Agnes Babenberg b: 1111
.................... 13 *Rixa b: Bet. 1130 - 1140
.......................... +[32] Alfonso VII 'of Castile and Galicia' b: Abt.
1104 Castile, (now Spain)
...................... +Salomé 'van Berg' b: WFT Est. 1085-1100
.................. 12 Mieszko III 'of Poland' b: Abt. 1126 of Poland
........................ +Elisabeth b: Bet. 1099 - 1118
.................... 13 Otto b: WFT Est. 1040-1074
.......................... +Wyszeslawa 'van Galicië' b: WFT Est. 1045-1074
...................... 14 Ladislas Odonic 'of Poland' b: 1190
............................ +Hedwig 'van Pommerellen' b: WFT Est. 1190-1204
........................ 15 Boleslas 'of Poland' b: WFT Est. 1218-1238
.............................. +Helene 'of Hungary' b: 1244
.......................... 16 [14] Hedwig b: 1266
................................ +[13] Ladislas IV 'of Poland' b: 1260
........................... 17 Kunigunde b: WFT Est. 1293-1313
................................. +Rudolf I 'zu Saksen-Wittenburg'
............................. 18 Sophia 'van Brandenburg' b: WFT Est.
1298-1314
................................... +Magnus I 'zu Braunschweig' b: 1304
............................... 19 [8] Magnus II 'zu Braunschweig' b: 1328
..................................... +[7] Catharina 'van Anhalt' b: WFT Est.
1328-1338
................................. 20 Hendrik II 'zu Braunschweig' b: WFT Est.
1356-1366
....................................... +Sophia 'van Pommern' b: WFT Est.
1363-1389
................................... 21 [26] Catharina 'van
Braunschweig-Lübeck' b: WFT Est. 1370-1395
......................................... +[25] Frederik I 'von Wettin' b:
April 11, 1370
..................................... 22 [12] Frederik II 'von Wettin' b:
August 22, 1412
........................................... +[11] Margarethe 'von Habsburg' b:
1416
....................................... 23 Albrecht III 'von Wettin' b: July
31, 1443 Grimma
............................................. +Sidonia 'van Bohemen' b:
November 11, 1449
........................................ 24 Georg 'von Wettin' b: August 27,
1471 Meissen
.............................................. +Barbara 'van Polen' b: WFT
Est. 1471-1491
.......................................... 25 [2] Christina 'von Wettin' b:
December 25, 1505
................................................ +[1] Filips I 'van Hessen' b:
November 13, 1504 Marburg
............................................ 26 Willem IV 'van Hessen' b:
June 24, 1532 Kassel
.................................................. +Elisabeth Wallenstein b:
Abt. 1552
.............................................. 27 Philipp Wilhelm von Hessen
b: June 24, 1553 Kassel
.................................................... +Anna Christina von
Falken b: August 30, 1563
................................................ 28 Anna Maria von Cornberg
b: 1596 Richelsdorf
...................................................... +Ernst Christoph von
Buttlar b: 1590
.................................................. 29 Hans Heinrich von
Buttlar b: 1620
........................................................ +Christine von
Boineburg b: 1636
.................................................... 30 Christoph Wilhelm von
Buttlar b: January 25, 1659/60 Willershausen
.......................................................... +Maria Anna
Dorothea von Goldacker b: 1670
...................................................... 31 Christiane Juliane
Treusch von Buttlar b: June 20, 1699 Willershausen
............................................................ +Johann Wilhelm
von Linsingen b: October 24, 1695 Birkenfelde
....................................................... 32 Anna Juliane von
Linsingen b: April 10, 1722 Birkenfelde
............................................................. +Werner Ludwig
von Hanstein b: September 22, 1693 Unterstein
......................................................... 33 Anna Johanna
Dorothea von Hanstein b: December 24, 1747 Unterstein
............................................................... +Johannes
Heinrich Christian von Selchow b: July 26, 1732 Kindelbruck
........................................................... 34 Friedrich
Wilhelm von Selchow b: June 04, 1769 Gottingen
................................................................. +Friederike
Ludowika Amalie von Kummer b: January 31, 1783 Wtelno
............................................................. 35 Alexandrine
Francisca Friederieke von Selchow b: February 15, 1814 Rettkewitz
................................................................... +Carl
Ludwig Gustav Adolf von Tiedemann b: July 17, 1804 Russoschin
............................................................... 36 Albrecht
Gerhard Erdmann von Tiedemann b: March 15, 1839 Russoschin
..................................................................... +Johanna
Frederika Baumgarten b: June 10, 1850 Djokjakarta
................................................................. 37
Alexandrine Johanna Erdmuthe von Tiedemann b: December 03, 1873
Djokjakarta>more to present.
..................................... 22 [22] Anna 'von Wettin' b: June 05,
1420
........................................... +[21] Lodewijk 'de Vreedzame' b:
February 06, 1401/02 Spangenberg
....................................... 23 [16] Lodewijk II 'van Hessen' b:
September 07, 1438
............................................. +[15] Mechtild 'van Württemberg'
b: WFT Est. 1438-1440
........................................ 24 [4] Willem II 'van Hessen' b:
April 29, 1469
.............................................. +[3] Anna 'van Mecklenburg' b:
September 14, 1485 Plau
.......................................... 25 [1] Filips I 'van Hessen' b:
November 13, 1504 Marburg
.......................................... *2nd Wife of [1] Filips I 'van
Hessen':
................................................ +[2] Christina 'von Wettin'
b: December 25, 1505
................................. 20 Sophia 'van Braunschweig' b: 1358
....................................... +Erik IV 'zu Saksen-Lauenburg' b: 1354
................................... 21 Catharina 'an Saksen-Lauenburg' b:
Bet. 1373 - 1400
......................................... +Johan IV 'zu Mecklenburg' b: WFT
Est. 1362-1382
..................................... 22 [24] Hendrik IV 'zu Mecklenburg' b:
1417
........................................... +[23] Dorothea 'von Hohenzollern'
b: February 09, 1419/20
....................................... 23 [6] Magnus II 'zu Mecklenburg' b:
1441
............................................. +[5] Sophia 'van Pommern' b: WFT
Est. 1451-1464
........................................ 24 [3] Anna 'van Mecklenburg' b:
September 14, 1485 Plau
.............................................. +[4] Willem II 'van Hessen' b:
April 29, 1469
................................... 21 Sophia 'van Saksen-Lauenburg' b: Bet.
1373 - 1400
......................................... +Wartislaw IX 'van Pommern' b: Bet.
1367 - 1405
..................................... 22 [10] Erik II 'van Pommern' b: WFT
Est. 1400-1443
........................................... +[9] Sophia 'van Pommern' b: WFT
Est. 1433-1443
....................................... 23 [5] Sophia 'van Pommern' b: WFT
Est. 1451-1464
............................................. +[6] Magnus II 'zu Mecklenburg'
b: 1441
............................. 18 Agnes 'van Saksen-Wittenburg' b: WFT Est.
1288-1314
................................... +Bernhard III 'zu Anhalt' b: WFT Est.
1283-1312
............................... 19 [7] Catharina 'van Anhalt' b: WFT Est.
1328-1338
..................................... +[8] Magnus II 'zu Braunschweig' b: 1328
.................. 12 Casimir II 'of Poland' b: 1138 of Poland
........................ +Wife of Casimir II b: WFT Est. 1138-1171
.................... 13 Koenraad I 'van Kujavië' b: 1187
.......................... +Wife of Koenraad I b: Abt. 1187
...................... 14 Sjemowit I b: WFT Est. 1211-1221
............................ +Wife of Sjemowit I b: WFT Est. 1194-1241
........................ 15 Boleslaw II 'of Masowia' b: WFT Est. 1234-1262
.............................. +Wife of Boleslaw II b: WFT Est. 1244-1270
.......................... 16 Troiden 'of Masowia' b: 1284
................................ +Maria 'van Halicz' b: WFT Est. 1284-1305
........................... 17 Ziemowit III 'of Masowia' b: 1320
................................. +Euphemia 'van Troppau' b: 1319
............................. 18 Zimowit IV 'of Masowia' b: 1366
................................... +Alexandra 'van Litauwen' b: WFT Est.
1350-1373
............................... 19 Maria 'of Masowia' b: WFT Est. 1398-1417
..................................... +Bogislaw IX 'zu Pommern' b: WFT Est.
1398-1417
................................. 20 [9] Sophia 'van Pommern' b: WFT Est.
1433-1443
....................................... +[10] Erik II 'van Pommern' b: WFT
Est. 1400-1443
............................... 19 Cymburge 'of Masowia' b: 1394
..................................... +Ernst I de IJzere von Habsburg b: 1377
................................. 20 [11] Margarethe 'von Habsburg' b: 1416
....................................... +[12] Frederik II 'von Wettin' b:
August 22, 1412
...................... 14 Casimir I 'of Kujavia' b: 1211
............................ +Wife of Casimir I b: WFT Est. 1211-1245
........................ 15 [13] Ladislas IV 'of Poland' b: 1260
.............................. +[14] Hedwig b: 1266
.............. 10 Vladislav I 'of Bohemia' b: 1066
.................... +Rixa 'van Berg' b: WFT Est. 1085-1100
................ 11 Vladislav I 'of Bohemia' b: Bet. 1082 - 1125
...................... +Gertrude Babenberg b: 1120
.................. 12 Frederik 'of Bohemia' b: Bet. 1139 - 1161
........................ +Elisabeth 'of Hungary' b: Bet. 1149 - 1161
.................... 13 Ludmilla 'of Bohemia' b: 1170 Olmütz
.......................... +Lodewijk I 'von Wittelsbach' b: December 23, 1174
Kelheim
...................... 14 Otto II 'von Wittelsbach' b: April 07, 1206 Kelheim
............................ +Ines b: 1201
........................ 15 Elisabeth 'of Bavaria' b: WFT Est. 1222-1283
.............................. +Husband of Elisabeth 'of Bavaria' b: WFT Est.
1200-1283
.......................... 16 Otto II 'of Kaernten' b: WFT Est. 1242-1297
................................ +Wife of Otto II 'of Kaernten' b: WFT Est.
1252-1297
........................... 17 [36] Elisabeth 'von Kaernten' b: WFT Est.
1297-1311
................................. +[35] Peter II 'of Sicily' b: WFT Est.
1287-1311
............................. 18 [18] Beatrix 'van Aragon' b: 1326
................................... +[17] Ruprecht II 'von Wittelsbach' b: May
12, 1325 Amberg
............................... 19 [20] Ruprecht III 'von Wittelsbach' b: May
05, 1352 Amberg
..................................... +[19] Elisabeth 'von Hohenzollern' b:
November 15, 1358
................................. 20 Lodewijk III 'von Wittelsbach' b:
January 23, 1377/78
....................................... +Mathilde 'van Savoyen' b: WFT Est.
1380-1402
................................... 21 [30] Machtild 'von Wittelsbach' b:
March 07, 1418/19 Heidelberg (now Germany)
......................................... +[29] Lodewijk I 'zu Württemberg' b:
1412 Urach
..................................... 22 [15] Mechtild 'van Württemberg' b:
WFT Est. 1438-1440
........................................... +[16] Lodewijk II 'van Hessen' b:
September 07, 1438
........................ 15 Ludwig II 'von Bayern' b: 1229
.............................. +Mathilde 'von Habsburg' b: Abt. 1251
Rheinfelden
.......................... 16 Rudolf I de Stamelaar 'von Wittelsbach' b:
October 04, 1274 Basel of in de Elsas
................................ +Mathilde 'van Nassau' b: 1280
........................... 17 Adolf 'von Wittelsbach' b: September 27, 1300
Wolfratshausen
................................. +Irmengard 'van Oettingen' b: WFT Est.
1300-1310
............................. 18 [17] Ruprecht II 'von Wittelsbach' b: May
12, 1325 Amberg
................................... +[18] Beatrix 'van Aragon' b: 1326
.......................... 16 [38] Lodewijk IV 'von Wittelsbach' b: April 01,
1283 München
................................ +Beatrix 'van Glogau' b: WFT Est. 1283-1295
........................... 17 Mechtild 'von Wittelsbach' b: 1310
................................. +Frederik II 'von Wettin' b: November 30,
1310 Gotha
............................. 18 Elisabeth 'von Wettin' b: November 22, 1329
Wartburg
................................... +Frederik V 'von Hohenzollern' b: March
03, 1332/33
............................... 19 [19] Elisabeth 'von Hohenzollern' b:
November 15, 1358
..................................... +[20] Ruprecht III 'von Wittelsbach' b:
May 05, 1352 Amberg
............................... 19 Margarethe 'von Hohenzollern' b: 1363
..................................... +Hermann II 'de Geleerde' b: 1340
................................. 20 [21] Lodewijk 'de Vreedzame' b: February
06, 1401/02 Spangenberg
....................................... +[22] Anna 'von Wettin' b: June 05,
1420
............................... 19 [28] Frederik I 'von Hohenzollern' b:
August 06, 1371
..................................... +[27] Elisabeth 'von Wittelsbach' b:
1383 Trausnitz
................................. 20 [23] Dorothea 'von Hohenzollern' b:
February 09, 1419/20
....................................... +[24] Hendrik IV 'zu Mecklenburg' b:
1417
............................. 18 Frederik III 'von Wettin' b: October 14,
1332 Dresden
................................... +Catharina 'van Henneberg-Schleusingen' b:
WFT Est. 1317-1342
............................... 19 [25] Frederik I 'von Wettin' b: April 11,
1370
..................................... +[26] Catharina 'van
Braunschweig-Lübeck' b: WFT Est. 1370-1395
........................... 17 [34] Stefanus II met de Gespen von Wittelsbach
b: 1317
................................. +[33] Elisabeth 'van Aragon' b: 1309
............................. 18 Frederik 'von Wittelsbach' b: 1339
................................... +Magdalena Visconti b: Abt. 1366
............................... 19 [27] Elisabeth 'von Wittelsbach' b: 1383
Trausnitz
..................................... +[28] Frederik I 'von Hohenzollern' b:
August 06, 1371
................................ +[37] Margarethe 'van Henegouwen' b: 1293
........................... 17 Elisabeth 'von Wittelsbach' b: 1329
................................. +Ulrich 'zu Württemberg' b: 1342
............................. 18 Eberhard IV 'zu Württemberg' b: WFT Est.
1348-1372
................................... +Antonia Visconti b: WFT Est. 1350-1372
............................... 19 Eberhard V 'zu Württemberg' b: August 23,
1388
..................................... +Henriette 'von Mömpelgard' b: WFT Est.
1388-1398
................................. 20 [29] Lodewijk I 'zu Württemberg' b: 1412
Urach
....................................... +[30] Machtild 'von Wittelsbach' b:
March 07, 1418/19 Heidelberg (now Germany)
............ 9 [31] Vladislav I 'of Poland' b: 1043 area now Poland
.................. +Sophia 'of Germany' b: Abt. 1043
.............. 10 *Rixa 'of Poland' b: Abt. 1107
.................... +[32] Alfonso VII 'of Castile and Galicia' b: Abt. 1104
Castile, (now Spain)
................ 11 Sanchia 'of Castile' b: September 21, 1154 Castile (now
Spain)
...................... +Alfonso II 'of Aragon' b: May 1152 Barcelona (now
Spain)
.................. 12 Pedro II 'of Aragon' b: 1174 Aragon (now Spain)
........................ +Mary 'of Montpelier' b: WFT Est. 1174-1184
Montpelier
.................... 13 James I 'of Aragon' b: WFT Est. 1182-1213 Aragon (now
Spain)
.................... *2nd Wife of James I 'of Aragon':
.......................... +Yolande 'of Hungary' b: WFT Est. 1200-1221
...................... 14 Peter III Koning 'van Aragon' b: 1236
............................ +Constance b: 1249
........................ 15 [44] Frederik II van Aragon b: 1271
.............................. +[43] Eleonore 'van Anjou' b: August 1289
.......................... 16 [33] Elisabeth 'van Aragon' b: 1309
................................ +[34] Stefanus II met de Gespen von
Wittelsbach b: 1317
.......................... 16 [35] Peter II 'of Sicily' b: WFT Est. 1287-1311
................................ +[36] Elisabeth 'von Kaernten' b: WFT Est.
1297-1311
...................... 14 [40] Isabella 'of Aragon' b: Abt. 1245 Aragon,
France
............................ +[39] Philip III 'of France' b: April 03, 1245
Poissy, Yvelines, France
........................ 15 [42] Charles 'of Valois' b: 1270 likely area now
France
.............................. +[41] Margaretha 'van Anjou' b: WFT Est.
1279-1299
.......................... 16 Jeanne 'de Valois' b: Bet. 1294 - 1295 of
Fontainebleau, Seine-et-Marne, France
................................ +William 'of Hainault' b: 1280
........................... 17 [37] Margarethe 'van Henegouwen' b: 1293
................................. +[38] Lodewijk IV 'von Wittelsbach' b: April
01, 1283 München
.................. 12 Alfonso II 'of Provence' b: Bef. 1178 Aragon (now
Spain)
........................ +Gersinde II 'of Forcalquier' b: Bef. 1178 Sabran
(now Spain)
.................... 13 Raymond Berengar 'of Provence and Forcalquier' b: WFT
Est. 1183-1200 Aix-En-Provence, Bouches-Du-Rhone (now France)
.......................... +Beatrice 'of Savoy' b: Abt. 1201 Ghamberg, Savoie
(now France)
...................... 14 Margaret Berengar b: Abt. 1216 Provence, (now
France)
............................ +Louis IX 'St. Louis of France' b: April 25, 1214
Poissy
........................ 15 [39] Philip III 'of France' b: April 03, 1245
Poissy, Yvelines, France
.............................. +[40] Isabella 'of Aragon' b: Abt. 1245 Aragon,
France
...................... 14 Beatrice 'of Provence' b: 1234 of Aix-en-Provence,
Bouches-du-Rhone, (now France)
............................ +Charles I 'of Anjou-Naples-Sicily' b: March 21,
1226/27 Paris, Seine, (now France)
........................ 15 Charles II 'of Anjou-Naples-Sicily' b: Abt. 1254
.............................. +Maria 'of Hungary' b: Abt. 1257
.......................... 16 [41] Margaretha 'van Anjou' b: WFT Est.
1279-1299
................................ +[42] Charles 'of Valois' b: 1270 likely area
now France
.......................... 16 [43] Eleonore 'van Anjou' b: August 1289
................................ +[44] Frederik II van Aragon b: 1271
.................. +[45] Judith 'of Bohemia' b: 1065
John Yohalem
Well, this one is off, because the Theophano who married Otto II was NOT the
daughter of Emperor Romanos II but one Theophano Sklerena, belonging to a
noble family distantly connected to Romanos's successor and brother-in-law,
John I Tzimiskes. I believe her father's name was Bardas Skleros, but I
could be wrong....
So none of Otto II's descendants are, in fact, descended from Byzantine
Emperors, or not this way.
Woulda been nice, though, huh?
Francisco Antonio Doria
>So none of Otto II's descendants are, in fact, descended from Byzantine
>Emperors, or not this way.
>
>Woulda been nice, though, huh?
>
>Jean Coeur de Lapin
I've tried that one, too. If you are really interested at the Armenia
connection, one alternate route is the one I suggested through the
presores of Coimbra. I'll try to make it as reliable as possible.
chico
Francisco Antonio Doria
Jon Meltzer
<ench...@herodotus.com> wrote:
>Well, this one is off, because the Theophano who married Otto II was NOT the
>daughter of Emperor Romanos II but one Theophano Sklerena, belonging to a
>noble family distantly connected to Romanos's successor and brother-in-law,
>John I Tzimiskes. I believe her father's name was Bardas Skleros, but I
>could be wrong....
>
Partially right. Theophano's parentage is unknown; the Skleros descent
is a hypothesis.
netgazer
the
> >daughter of Emperor Romanos II but one Theophano Sklerena, belonging to a
> >noble family distantly connected to Romanos's successor and
brother-in-law,
> >John I Tzimiskes. I believe her father's name was Bardas Skleros, but I
> >could be wrong....
> >
>
> Partially right. Theophano's parentage is unknown; the Skleros descent
> is a hypothesis.
RUBISH:
Theophano Scleros.
born 956,
married OTTO II 14th April 972. (he was 17)
Died 15 June 991
She was not born in the "purple" being the daughter of Constantine Scleros,
however she was the niece of Tzimiscis
It was one of the most successful mariages of the time.
>
>
Chris Bennett
netgazer <om...@thoroughbreds.com.au> wrote in message
news:B0yt3.6$uT3...@vic.nntp.telstra.net...
No, Jon is right, her parentage is unknown. I haven't researched the
literature in detail, but the two hypotheses I have seen discussed are (a)
daughter of Romanos II (b) daughter of Constantine Scleros. Under both
hypotheses she would be a niece of John Tzimisces, which IIRC is the only
datum we have from the sources. Under hypothesis (a) she would be
porphyrogenita, but not to the imperial family resident in 972. My
impression is that (b) is more widely favoured today, but remains unproven.
Chris
D. Spencer Hines
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> My impression is that (b) is more widely favoured
> today, but remains unproven.
>
> Chris
"More widely favored today." Do tell. Now, there is a precise phrase
for the serious genealogist.
D. Spencer Hines
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