Fw: Amazing facts about Greve Web Site on MyHeritage.com
Leo
I received this e-mail and I must ask "How dumb am I?" Can anyone find people with my surname at this URL ?
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia
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From: MyHeritage News
To: leov...@netspeed.com.au
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:23 AM
Subject: Amazing facts about Greve Web Site on MyHeritage.com
Hi Leo,
We've just released an interesting new feature: family tree statistics.
See your Van De Pas family statistics on Greve Web Site
We think you'll enjoy it. It's a completely free feature that analyzes your family tree and displays 45 eye-opening statistics using beautiful graphs, charts and maps, including:
• what are the most common first names or last names in your family
• where were your family members born (displayed on maps)
• what's the life expectancy for men and women in your family
• what are the most common birth months and zodiac signs
• at what age do people marry in your family
• what's the average age difference between husband and wife
• the average number of children in a family
• and more
You'll also find juicy anecdotes, like the top families where the husband or wife are much older than their spouse, the people who married youngest or oldest, had the most children, the shortest marriages that didn't make it, the oldest living people in the family, and much more.
See your Van De Pas family statistics on Greve Web Site
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Will
Leo
Amongst these I did not find any relatives. But interestingly they all are in the same province where my ancestors came from, but from two different areas.
Worrying is that I checked one (Cornelis van de Pas born 25 May 1830 in Tilburg) on the Dutch official site GenLias and could not find him as van de Pas, as GenLias is letter sensitive I had to look via his mother to find that the surname for this Cornelis is van der Pas, not van de Pas, I believe these two spellings indicate two separate families.
I think this website plays loose and fast with the spellings of surnames. Under the heading of the indicated person is van de Pas, but by the father you can find van der Pas, van de(n) Pas (paz) , van den Pass .
At first I was excited as there were a few early ones, but now I do not know how realiable this site is.
Thanks to Francisco, at least I have seen a bit of it.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
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Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Amazing facts about Greve Web Site on MyHeritage.com
Vivien
> Maybe not a dumb come on. Someone came back to me like a flash and gave a different URL and there are supposedly 639 entries. I had a look and I can only access the first 100.
>
> Amongst these I did not find any relatives. But interestingly they all are in the same province where my ancestors came from, but from two different areas.
>
> Worrying is that I checked one (Cornelis van de Pas born 25 May 1830 in Tilburg) on the Dutch official site GenLias and could not find him as van de Pas, as GenLias is letter sensitive I had to look via his mother to find that the surname for this Cornelis is van der Pas, not van de Pas, I believe these two spellings indicate two separate families.
>
> I think this website plays loose and fast with the spellings of surnames. Under the heading of the indicated person is van de Pas, but by the father you can find van der Pas, van de(n) Pas (paz) , van den Pass .
I don't think it is a dumb come on yet. Now sure where the income to
support the site is generated but I am sure we will learn eventually.
However I did find on the site a branch of my family that I had not
been able to find otherwise. So perhaps a bit like "genes reunited"
which other members of my family and other aquaintances swear by for
finding more recent relatives and "lost" friends not lost in the mists
of antiquity.
lostcopper
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I googled the site, went on it, generated a little chart with the
names of my parents (that I had just given them), at which point they
did the usual thing that such sites do - they said that if I wanted to
go much farther, it would cost me. Granted, the "premium" plan was
cheap compared to ancestry.com etc., but it's the same ploy. After you
sign up & pay for the "premium" plan, I would bet that there is a
"super-premium" plan that costs more, etc.
Best, Bronwen
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I believe that I pay annually something like 350 to 500 dollars to unlock everything ancestry has.
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But my response to them would have been along the lines:
> We think you'll enjoy it.
You may think wrong.
> It's a completely free feature
Along with lunch?
> that analyzes your family tree
GRAMPS dows a pretty good job & if I wanted something it didn't do I can
write software myself.
> and displays 45 eye-opening statistics
What's an eye-opening statistic when it's at home?
> using beautiful graphs, charts and maps, including:
Beauty is not an attribute I demand of a statistical presentation.
Clarity and accuracy are sufficient.
> • what are the most common first names
Of what possible significance can that be?
> or last names in your family
Easy one. If this were Goddard family statistics it would be Goddard.
> • where were your family members born (displayed on maps)
See above. Where I know places of birth I can plot them myself. Even
better, seeing as they're local I can drive or even walk and see the
actual places.
> • what's the life expectancy for men and women in your family
Now this is an interesting one. If you mean what was it in the past
then I can work that out for myself subject to the limitation below. If
you mean for current living members then in the absence of identified
genetic disease the only sure guide is general population statistics for
the region. If you think otherwise you haven't grasped the essence of
statistics which would be odd for a site that claims to present them.
> • what are the most common birth months
Now this is a bit of an issue. For the greater part the only data are
for baptisms not births so the date of birth is unknown. And that
impinges on any statistic which involves ages. Even worse, in this area
the earlier PRs are subject to a great deal of under-recording so that
often not even the baptism is known; marriages and burials have the same
problem.
> and zodiac signs
(a) claptrap and (b) see above.
> • at what age do people marry in your family
See above
> • what's the average age difference between husband and wife
See above
> • the average number of children in a family
You might not believe this but I'm sufficiently numerate to calculate
this where data exists. But just to tease, do you mean totals born -
including or excluding still-born - or totals surviving to some
particular age? If the latter see above and in either case how do you
deal with the under-recording?
> • and more
More junk?
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Monica Kanellis
idea I had. Mind boggling! And lots of distant cousins to swap photos and
documents with.
MK
lostcopper
> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of
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As do I, God help me. Most of the family trees are useless (except my
own of course : )) ) but access to the original documents to download
& copy has been excellent. I actually use the UK site even though I'm
in California; I have more trouble copying the original record photos
on the American site. I don't think I've ever seen anything costing as
much as $500 on ancestry.com, however. Best, Bronwen
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Bronwen, how much do you pay ancestry?
lostcopper
> Bronwen, how much do you pay ancestry?
I have the "world deluxe" membership which is, to round off, $300 a
year. It assures me that I have complete access to everything they
have in any country. The membership I would consider next, if I could
afford any more than Ancestry.com, is Scotlands People. I don't even
understand their payment options - what are "coupons", for instance? I
emailed them once to ask what a poor dumb American can do but they
never answered. Best, Bronwen