Genealogics and William FitzOsbern

[Leo van de Pas]

I have the feeling some people haven't read the accompanying notes on Genealogics. I have the feeling Jim Weber thinks that Richilde was the only child of Reginar V. We know now she was only a daughter-in-law and not a daughter. However, if you look at the file of Reginar V you will see an asterix indicating I have exhausted all I can find about him is missing. In other words, there could be other children, but according to Isenburg Hermann was an only child.

I may be wrong, but I think Todd Farmerie either looked somewhere I didn't, or he could be wrong. To quote him, "I don't know where CP got the speculation that she was daughter of a Count of Egisheim, but it is correct that she was not daughter of prior Counts of Hainault. "

IN CP volume VI page 448 she is mentioned as Richilde daughter and heir of Renier, Count of Mons in Hainault. According to a footnote, she married William FitzOsbern shortly before he went into battle, "and it is stated that she was taken in the battle where her new husband was killed."
Leo van de Pas

[Todd A. Farmerie]

Leo van de Pas wrote:
> I may be wrong, but I think Todd Farmerie either looked somewhere I didn't, or he could be wrong. To quote him, "I don't know where CP got the speculation that she was daughter of a Count of Egisheim, but it is correct that she was not daughter of prior Counts of Hainault. "
>
> IN CP volume VI page 448 she is mentioned as Richilde daughter and heir of Renier, Count of Mons in Hainault. According to a footnote, she married William FitzOsbern shortly before he went into battle, "and it is stated that she was taken in the battle where her new husband was killed."

Leo, my comment was in regards to the CP correction volume (XIV),
quoted by Jim Webber.

taf

[Betty Owen]

Thank you my question is about William fitz Osbern I was not aware he
married again before he died. Richilde is his second wife? and were there
any sons and is the documentation good I what I am asking.... Yes I have
the right one....
Thanks
Betty

> Dear Betty,
> I think your question is not clear. Osbern was the father of William
> FitzOsbern and William FitzOsbern, married Richilde as his second wife at
> the most a year before going into battle, a battle in which he was killed.
> William FitzOsbern and his first wife had a daughter Emma and sons.
> Leo
>

[Betty Owen]

Thank You. I know who William fitz Osbern is.... I knew he had a wife
Adeliza I believe 2 or 3 sons.... I know about William and the younger
one... Roger. who was part of the rebellion.... I know about Emma and her
husband..and their role in the rebellion.
I was not aware of Richilde... I was not even discussing Osbern the father
of William fitz Osbern.
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Do we know for sure when he married her? I am referring to Richilde and if
there were any childern.
I cannot be much plainer then that.
Thanks.
Betty
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Leo van de Pas" <leov...@netspeed.com.au>
To: "Betty Owen" <wint...@wt.net>; <GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Genealogics and William FitzOsbern

> Dear Betty,
> I think your question is not clear. Osbern was the father of William
> FitzOsbern and William FitzOsbern, married Richilde as his second wife at
> the most a year before going into battle, a battle in which he was killed.
> William FitzOsbern and his first wife had a daughter Emma and sons.
> Leo
>

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Betty Owen" <wint...@wt.net>
> To: <GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 7:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Genealogics and William FitzOsbern
>
>
> > Pardoning me Gentleman and taf I have missed some of this .... Is this
> > True? about Richilde's daughter that Osbern took another wife just
before
> > battle?
> > Thanks
> > Betty
> > Todd is this a valid quote ?