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Correct mother of Bridget RALEGH or RALEIGH, wife of Sir William KINGSMILL (also GODDARD, and ERNLE or ERNELEY)

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Richard Carruthers a.k.a. Carruthers-Zurowski

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Dec 29, 2009, 4:00:27 AM12/29/09
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Leo van de Pas's excellent website includes Bridget RALEGH wife of Sir William KINGSMILL, of Sidmanton, Hants., as one of the lines of the Prince of Wales's ancestry, quoting The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. P
Sendrince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: M 7098, as the source.

Her parents are given as George RALEGH (will dated 2 Apr. 1546), of Thornburgh, Warws., and his wife Jane CONINGSBY.

In the Visitation of Warwickshire (1619), however, pp. 76-77 (pedigree of RALEIGH), George RALEIGH is said to have married three times.

http://www.archive.org/stream/visitationcount01britgoog

His first wife was Jane daughter of William CONNYSBY, of Aldenha' Kt, by whom he had numerous progeny, but not BRIDGET.

It was by his second wife who is described as "widow of Fitz Gerrard", by whom he had issue, one child, "Bridget ux. William KINGMILL."

Finally, George RALEIGH's third wife was Anne, daughter of ...ERNELEY. (this is where my interest first arose because I am tracing all references to ERNELEY or ERNLE and vars.)

In an article for which I have only seen quoted material on the NEHGS website: "RALEGH of Farnborough: vol. 145, 1991, pp. 3-21, by Danny D. Smith, George RALEGH's 2nd wife is described as the widow of Sir Thomas FITZGARETHE.

http://www.newenglandancestors.org/research/services/articles_fiennes_collection1.asp


This led me to the Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, vo. 10, p. 122, which contains a letter (dated 19 Feb. 1535/6) from George RALEGH to Thomas CROMWELL, regarding some income from lands he had in Ireland through this 2nd wife whom he describes as lately dead, naming her first husband as Sir Thomas FITZGARETHE, viz.:

"19 Feb. R. O.323.
323. George Ralegh to Cromwell.
I have lately lost my wife, by whom I had 60l. land in cos. Warw. and
Glouc., besides 40l. yearly, payable to her out of Ireland of the gift of her
first husband, Sir Thos. Fitzgarethe. These have now descended to Sir
Jas. Fitzgarethe, brother and heir to Sir Thos. Geffrey. Please write to
Sir Jas. that I may have the farm, during his life and mine, of these his
lands in Gloucester and Warwick, of the yearly value of 60l. 4s. 3�d.
Farnborough, 19 Feb. Signed.

P. 1. Add.: Secretary. Endd."

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=75416

The index to this work (available via British History Online) includes FITZGARETHE and FEISGERROT under the heading FITZGERALD, from which I take it that Sir Thomas FITZGARETHE would be known under the form, Sir Thomas FITZGERALD.

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=75447

Trawling through materials contained on various websites has led me to the possibility that George RALEGH's third wife Anne ERNELEY was connected with Ogbourne St George, Wilts., where there was an Anne ERNELEY, who married Thomas GODDARD, Esq., of Ogbourne St George.

This Thomas GODDARD's will dated 10 Apr. 1538, and proved 1 Apr. 1538 (PCC) is apparently abstracted in F.A. Crisp's "Fragmenta Genealogica", vol. 7, p. 77, bearing the unlikely publication date (via google books) of 1996.

>From what I can glimpse of it (via snippet view), Thomas GODDARD names his will's overseer as John ERNLE, his father-in-law. The will itself was proved by John RALEIGH and Anne the relict (of the testator).

This certainly is suggestive of a connexion between the three families of GODDARD, ERNLE, and RALEIGH, but it is not quite explicit on this point.

The 1618 Vis. Warws. for RALEIGH makes George RALEIGH the father by his third and last wife, Anne ERNELEY, of "Johannes RALEIGHE" living in 1563 (another Visitation year, at least in Wilts.). Clearly this person would not be the right age to have been the John RALEIGH who proved Thomas GODDARD's will in 1538, if Anne ERNELEY married George RALEIGH sometime after George wrote to Cromwell in Feb. 1535/36.

So I wonder who this John RALEIGH is, and whether I am correct in my hypothesis that Anne ERNELEY, third wife of George RALEGH or RALEIGH (d. 1546) is identical with the Anne ERNELEY who married Thomas GODDARD (d. between 1536 and 1538) of Ogbourne St George, Wilts.?

If the same, then her father was John ERNLE, fl. 1536, and presumably one of the Wiltshire ERNLEs.

Any assistance in discovering more about this connexion would be welcome.

All the best in 2010.

Richard

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On Dec 29, 1:00 am, "Richard Carruthers a.k.a. Carruthers-Zurowski"

<leliw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Leo van de Pas's excellent website includes Bridget RALEGH wife of Sir William KINGSMILL, of Sidmanton, Hants., as one of the lines of the Prince of Wales's ancestry, quoting The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. P
>     Sendrince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: M 7098, as the source.
>
> Her parents are given as George RALEGH (will dated 2 Apr. 1546), of Thornburgh, Warws., and his wife Jane CONINGSBY.
>
> In the Visitation of Warwickshire (1619), however, pp. 76-77 (pedigree of RALEIGH), George RALEIGH is said to have married three times.


As long as we are talking about Raleigh scions, does anyone know the
origin of the 17th/18th century Rawleigh of Foscott family? Their
descendants claimed descent from Sir Walter, but we all know what such
claims are worth.

taf

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