Brautigam , Bakers from Kassel / Hesse
chaingan...@gmail.com
Great to find this group !
I live in England, & have just found that one of my wife's ancestors ,
one Heinrich Brautigam , a baker ( we think a pastry baker) of Kassel,
Hesse, was an immigrant to north London in (approximately) 1860-70.
Obviously it would be interesting to find more detail on Heinrich
himself , but I have more hope of discovering *why* he would have
found it beneficial to emigrate.
Another German baker who enters the family tree ( one Jacob Moussauer,
exact place of origin in Germany not known ) arrived in London at
about the same time, and I have found many other German bakers in
London at that time.
Any sociological info very welcome. Many thanks in advance
Paul Seaton
Joe Pessarra
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Only 3 Brautigam listings in the Germany telephone directory at
http://www.dastelefonbuch.de/
No Moussauer listings, but 32 Mussauer listings in the directory.
Joe in Texas
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> > Hi,
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> > Great to find this group !
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> > I live in England, & have just found that one of my wife's ancestors ,
> > one Heinrich Brautigam , a baker ( we think a pastry baker) of Kassel,
> > Hesse, was an immigrant to north London in (approximately) 1860-70.
> > Obviously it would be interesting to find more detail on Heinrich
> > himself , but I have more hope of discovering *why* he would have
> > found it beneficial to emigrate.
> > Another German baker who enters the family tree ( one Jacob Moussauer,
> > exact place of origin in Germany not known ) arrived in London at
> > about the same time, and I have found many other German bakers in
> > London at that time.
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> > Any sociological info very welcome. Many thanks in advance
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> > Paul Seaton
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> No Moussauer listings, but 32 Mussauer listings in the directory.
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Hi Joe,
Thx for the reply.
Looking here =>
http://genforum.genealogy.com/brautigam/
.. I find plenty of German Brautigams circa 1850, so the current lack
is a bit puzzling - although there are many many variants of the
spelling.
I wondered if they were possibly Jewish ? ( I suppose I don't have to
explain how that would explain things..)
Mossauer seems to have even more spellings, ( Mosher / Mossower /
Moser ) . Since my wife's ancestor was called Jacob Mosher ( sometimes
Mossauer ) ... well, that sounds possibly Jewish to, but maybe that's
just me. ?
And - does anyone know if / why there was so much emigration from
Germany ( particularly Hesse..) at that time ?
paul s
Joe Pessarra
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.. I find plenty of German Brautigams circa 1850, so the current lack
is a bit puzzling - although there are many many variants of the
spelling.
I wondered if they were possibly Jewish ? ( I suppose I don't have to
explain how that would explain things..)
Mossauer seems to have even more spellings, ( Mosher / Mossower /
Moser ) . Since my wife's ancestor was called Jacob Mosher ( sometimes
Mossauer ) ... well, that sounds possibly Jewish to, but maybe that's
just me. ?
And - does anyone know if / why there was so much emigration from
Germany ( particularly Hesse..) at that time ?
paul s
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If you do an Internet search for "German immigration from Hesse" you will
get some hits. One of them is at
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061102054510AA7Bhsn
"German immigration began in the 17th century and continued into the late
19th century at a rate exceeding that of any other country. Working with
William Penn, Franz Daniel Pastorius established "Germantown" near
Philadelphia in 1683. German immigrants in this early period came from the
states of Pfalz, Baden, Wuerttemberg, Hesse, and the bishoprics of Cologne,
Osnabruck, Muenster, and Mainz."
"Nearly one million German immigrants entered the United States in the
1850s; this included thousands of refugees from the 1848 revolutions in
Europe."
Joe in Texas
Daria Wieczorek
> On Jul 15, 3:20 am, "Joe Pessarra" <joepessa...@suddenlink.net> wrote:
>> <chaingangchar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:7a7f9a28-59c4-417b...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> http://genforum.genealogy.com/brautigam/
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> .. I find plenty of German Brautigams circa 1850, so the current lack
> is a bit puzzling - although there are many many variants of the
> spelling.
My guess would be that the original surname was Bräutigam (=groom in
German) and that the families who emigrated dropped the dots of the
Umlaut somewhere on the way to the new country while the families who
stayed in Germany kept the a-Umlaut.
Daria
Ineke Smit
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Also the Brautigum's von Immenhausen who came to Amsterdam lost the Umlaut.
I have Johan Georg Brautigum [about 1740 Imenhausen] married in 1773 in
Amsterdam.
And Johannes Brautigum his brother/son? [born 1764 Immenhausen] married
1791 in Amsterdam.
Ineke