Franch|English Messages
Promise29
Dick, I understood it the same as you. I also would appreciate english
translations. Maria
R.L. Boisjolie wrote:
>
> Hi All--
>
> I may be wrong but it was my understanding that this list was intended
> for those who speak English only but have ancestors who are were French
> particularly French Canadian. As I understand it, the other French list
> is for French speaking people only.
> There seems to be an awful lot of messages in French on this list. I read
> French laboriously with a dictionary and it sure makes it difficult
> sometimes. So, even thoough some of the messages appear interesting I end
> up deleting because of the language hassle. Sometimes I know I am missing
> some good data because of this.
> I, for one, would appreciate those who want to send a message in French
> on this list to also include an English translation just below it. That
> way they would reach everyone and everyone would be happy.
> I suppose I will get some reaction to this but I feel it had to be said.
>
> Best to all--
>
> Dick Boisjolie
> bois...@ncn.net
R.L. Boisjolie
Hi All--
I not only do not speak French I do not type very well either!
In my prior message the subject should have been "French/English
Messages" and thoough should be "though".
Regards,
Dick Boisjolie
bois...@ncn.net
Raymond Duquette
R.L. Boisjolie wrote:
> Hi All--
> I may be wrong but it was my understanding that this list was intended
> for those who speak English only but have ancestors who are were
>French particularly French Canadian. As I understand it, the other
>French list is for French speaking people only.
> There seems to be an awful lot of messages in French on this list. I
>read French laboriously with a dictionary and it sure makes it
>difficult sometimes. So, even thoough some of the messages appear
>interesting I end up deleting because of the language hassle. Sometimes
>I know I am missing some good data because of this.
> I, for one, would appreciate those who want to send a message in
>French on this list to also include an English translation just below
>it. That way they would reach everyone and everyone would be happy. I
>suppose I will get some reaction to this but I feel it had to be said.
> Best to all-- Dick Boisjolie > bois...@ncn.net>>
Dick -- Many understand your plight, however, we don't want to exclude
those who cannot write in English, do we? Perhaps you could ask for an
English translation of an interesting topic. Many French Canadians and
Frenchmen/women/persons do read & write in both languages. Bet many
would do what they can to make it possible for people like you to get at
least the gist of a message. We are all pursuing genealogy as a hobby
and enjoy this dialogue, so don't hesitate to ask. The question that
you posed will help many who are reluctant to do so themselves.
All best -- Ray in California
Dolores Ojala
DITTO
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> From: Aline Bergemann <aber...@HQ.TCFARM.COM>
> To: GEN-...@MAIL.EWORLD.COM
> Subject: Re: Franch|English Messages
> Date: Sunday, June 01, 1997 6:15 PM
>
> Hi Dick,
>
> I have found if there was something interesting that was written in
French
> that all I had to do was request someone from this list to translate it
for
> me. There is usually someone out there who will do it. So don't be
afraid
> to ask! But remember to Thank them!
>
> Aline
> >Hi All--
> >
> >I may be wrong but it was my understanding that this list was intended
> >for those who speak English only but have ancestors who are were French
> >particularly French Canadian. As I understand it, the other French list
> >is for French speaking people only.
> >There seems to be an awful lot of messages in French on this list. I
read
> >French laboriously with a dictionary and it sure makes it difficult
> >sometimes. So, even thoough some of the messages appear interesting I
end
> >up deleting because of the language hassle. Sometimes I know I am
missing
> >some good data because of this.
> >I, for one, would appreciate those who want to send a message in French
> >on this list to also include an English translation just below it. That
> >way they would reach everyone and everyone would be happy.
> >I suppose I will get some reaction to this but I feel it had to be said.
> >
> >Best to all--
> >
> >Dick Boisjolie
> >bois...@ncn.net
> >
> >
>
> Cliff & Aline Bergemann *
> Woodburn, Oregon USA *
> aber...@hq.tcfarm.com *
Cd Hart
In a message dated 6/1/97 11:53:20 AM, you wrote:
<<Hi All--
I may be wrong but it was my understanding that this list was intended
for those who speak English only but have ancestors who are were French
particularly French Canadian. As I understand it, the other French list
is for French speaking people only.
There seems to be an awful lot of messages in French on this list. I read
French laboriously with a dictionary and it sure makes it difficult
sometimes. So, even thoough some of the messages appear interesting I end
up deleting because of the language hassle. Sometimes I know I am missing
some good data because of this.
I, for one, would appreciate those who want to send a message in French
on this list to also include an English translation just below it. That
way they would reach everyone and everyone would be happy.
I suppose I will get some reaction to this but I feel it had to be said.
Best to all--
Dick Boisjolie
bois...@ncn.net>>
I was very surprised to read that you think this newsgroup is particularly
for those with French-Canadian ancestors. I thought those of us whose
ancestors who came directly to America without making a detour to Canada
first were just as worthy. And I know that many people in this newsgroup who
live in France have been tremendously helpful and kind in assisting me, even
though I do not know French. Particularly Denis Cheyrouz, who not only has
sent me information he found in France about my ancestors there, but has also
taken the time to translate it in English for me. I certainly can have no
quarrel about the French not writing in English, when I cannot write in
French.
C.D. Hart
philippe obert
C'est toujours la meme chose.....Pourtant c'est tres clair....Genealogie
francaise! Et pourtant il y n'y a que 10% de messages en francais! Et
c'est encore trop pour certain! Fiou,...il serait peut etre temps qu'on se
reveille non?.Je regrette, mais que ceux qui ne comprennent pas le
francais, fassent comme des milliers de francophones font....ils apprennent
l'anglais sans demander que soit traduit les tesxtes anglais.....
> De : Paul Dupuy <PDu...@concentric.net>
> A : GEN-...@MAIL.EWORLD.COM
> Objet : Re: Franch|English Messages
> Date : 1 juin, 1997 21:06
>
> Raymond Duquette wrote:
> >
> > R.L. Boisjolie wrote:
> > > Hi All--
> > > I may be wrong but it was my understanding that this list was
intended
> > > for those who speak English only but have ancestors who are were
> > >French particularly French Canadian. As I understand it, the other
> > >French list is for French speaking people only.
> >
> > Dick -- Many understand your plight, however, we don't want to exclude
> > those who cannot write in English, do we? Perhaps you could ask for an
> > English translation of an interesting topic. Many French Canadians and
> > Frenchmen/women/persons do read & write in both languages. Bet many
> > would do what they can to make it possible for people like you to get
at
> > least the gist of a message. We are all pursuing genealogy as a hobby
> > and enjoy this dialogue, so don't hesitate to ask. The question that
> > you posed will help many who are reluctant to do so themselves.
> >
> > All best -- Ray in California
>
> skills a bit by reading postings in french when I had the time, and
> deleting when I didn't. I have had occasion to post to the
> french-speaking mailing list in English, and no one there told me to go
> away if I couldn't write in the list's main language. I think we should
> welcome french in the Francophone genealogy list. With all due respect,
> the delete key is a mouse-click away.
>
> Paul in California
jack Langlois
Bonjour
This subject probably does not deserve an answer but with respect
to all here is my solution.When I and the Larousse French-English
pocket dictionary are not able to translate,I do the following.
1. Hit the reply button
2. type in" traduction vous".
3. Type in Merci-Beaucoup.
Works for me 99% of the time as I find the people on this forum
are more than willing to extend themselves. Lets put this one to bed.
a Bientot Jack Langlois
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P.O. Box 63 do...@freeway.net
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Francine Morasse
Fiou!,,,Bien envoyer =E7a!.....
Je me d=E9brouille pour comprendre , pis je ne demande JAMAIS de traducti=
on.
Suis bien r=E9veill=E9, MOI.! Sourires!
Bonsoir!, Buenas Noches, Good night!
p.s. Larouse, Robert & Collins, ....C'est la solution!
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> From: philippe obert <obe...@VIDEOTRON.CA>
> To: GEN-...@MAIL.EWORLD.COM
> Subject: Re: Franch|English Messages
> Date: Sunday, June 01, 1997 8:37 PM
>
> C'est toujours la meme chose.....Pourtant c'est tres clair....Genealogi=
e
> francaise! Et pourtant il y n'y a que 10% de messages en francais! Et
> c'est encore trop pour certain! Fiou,...il serait peut etre temps qu'on
se
> reveille non?.Je regrette, mais que ceux qui ne comprennent pas le
> francais, fassent comme des milliers de francophones font....ils
apprennent
> l'anglais sans demander que soit traduit les tesxtes anglais.....
> > De : Paul Dupuy <PDu...@concentric.net>
> > A : GEN-...@MAIL.EWORLD.COM
> > Objet : Re: Franch|English Messages
> > Date : 1 juin, 1997 21:06
> >
> > Raymond Duquette wrote:
> > >
> > > R.L. Boisjolie wrote:
> > > > Hi All--
> > > > I may be wrong but it was my understanding that this list was
> intended
> > > > for those who speak English only but have ancestors who are were
> > > >French particularly French Canadian. As I understand it, the other
> > > >French list is for French speaking people only.
> > snip
> > >
> > > Dick -- Many understand your plight, however, we don't want to
exclude
> > > those who cannot write in English, do we? Perhaps you could ask fo=
r
an
> > > English translation of an interesting topic. Many French Canadians
and
> > > Frenchmen/women/persons do read & write in both languages. Bet man=
y
> > > would do what they can to make it possible for people like you to g=
et
> at
> > > least the gist of a message. We are all pursuing genealogy as a
hobby
> > > and enjoy this dialogue, so don't hesitate to ask. The question th=
at
> > > you posed will help many who are reluctant to do so themselves.
> > >
> > > All best -- Ray in California
> >
> > I read a little French, but can't write it. I have sharpened my fren=
ch
> > skills a bit by reading postings in french when I had the time, and
> > deleting when I didn't. I have had occasion to post to the
> > french-speaking mailing list in English, and no one there told me to =
R.L. Boisjolie
Hi All--
I may be wrong but it was my understanding that this list was intended
for those who speak English only but have ancestors who are were French
particularly French Canadian. As I understand it, the other French list
is for French speaking people only.
Paul Dupuy
Raymond Duquette wrote:
>
> R.L. Boisjolie wrote:
> > I may be wrong but it was my understanding that this list was intended
> > for those who speak English only but have ancestors who are were
> >French particularly French Canadian. As I understand it, the other
> >French list is for French speaking people only.
>
> Dick -- Many understand your plight, however, we don't want to exclude
> English translation of an interesting topic. Many French Canadians and
> would do what they can to make it possible for people like you to get at
> least the gist of a message. We are all pursuing genealogy as a hobby
> you posed will help many who are reluctant to do so themselves.
>
> All best -- Ray in California
I read a little French, but can't write it. I have sharpened my french
skills a bit by reading postings in french when I had the time, and
deleting when I didn't. I have had occasion to post to the
french-speaking mailing list in English, and no one there told me to go
George Grenier
I admit I would like the messages in English since I do not read
French even laborously. Wish I did. BUT if I see a letter in French
with surnames of interest I will get the letter translated somehow if
I can't figure it out. I think I am starting to pick up a few
pertinent French words in the several weeks aboard. I 'll have to
get a good French dictionary. Any suggestions?
Barbara
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997 13:55:48 -0400, Promise29
<Prom...@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:
>Dick, I understood it the same as you. I also would appreciate english
>translations. Maria
>
>
>
>R.L. Boisjolie wrote:
>>
>> Hi All--
>>
>> I may be wrong but it was my understanding that this list was intended
>> for those who speak English only but have ancestors who are were French
>> particularly French Canadian. As I understand it, the other French list
>> is for French speaking people only.
REPAGE
>I may be wrong but it was my understanding that this list was intended
>for those who speak English only but have ancestors who are were French
>particularly French Canadian. As I understand it, the other French list
>is for French speaking people only.
Dick,
That is correct, you are wrong. ;-) I don't think that restriction
has been
put on this list. I, for one, am glad to have anybody with information I
might
possibly use contribute to the list. I also do not speak French. I have
learned
to recognize French genealogical abbreviations. Does that mean I speak an
abbreviated version of French? :-) I have ordered a translation program
which
has been highly recommended to me called "French Assistant" but it has not
arrived yet so I cannot personally vouch for it. The price was $59. and
can be
ordered from www.softwarecenter.com. They also had some more high-powered
higher priced programs.
- Bob Page -
Evelyn F. Lehman
I think that everyone should remember that the SURNAME is the same in
both English and French. And that is what we are looking for when we
scan these messages.
Even if you replied in English to a French e-mail that contained a name that
was of interest, I am sure that person would find someway to reply. And
vice versa.
Evelyn
Pascale Charette
REPAGE (rep...@aol.com) writes:
>>I may be wrong but it was my understanding that this list was intended
>>for those who speak English only but have ancestors who are were French
>>particularly French Canadian. As I understand it, the other French list
>>is for French speaking people only.
>
Hi all,
I am a French Canadian who appreciate this newsgroup and I did ask
my questions in French. I seem to be getting a better response here
than in the other newsgroup which is totally French. I have just started
my family tree and have not researched my French ancestors yet but my
French-Canadian ones.
I will try and remember that my French questions would be interesting
for English speaking people also and to translate them.
Thanks for your comments,
Pascale
Researching: Dumont, Tourangeau, Charette, Sauvé
Denis Beauregard
>R.L. Boisjolie wrote:
>>
>> Hi All--
>>
>> for those who speak English only but have ancestors who are were French
>> particularly French Canadian. As I understand it, the other French list
You are right to be wrong...
As the proponent of that list I can say it was NEVER intended to
be limited to those who speak English.
>> is for French speaking people only.
>> There seems to be an awful lot of messages in French on this list. I read
>> French laboriously with a dictionary and it sure makes it difficult
Many messages in French are directed to those who live in French.
While some of them may be of secondary interest for those who don't
speak French, I think the author don't always have the time to
translate all of them and giving the permission to some voluntary
to translate them should be the more you should expect.
Also, many persons who post in French can't repeat the same message
in English without corruption the actual meaning of the original
message (since they are not fluent in English).
>> sometimes. So, even thoough some of the messages appear interesting I end
>> up deleting because of the language hassle. Sometimes I know I am missing
>> some good data because of this.
>> I, for one, would appreciate those who want to send a message in French
>> on this list to also include an English translation just below it. That
>> way they would reach everyone and everyone would be happy.
>> I suppose I will get some reaction to this but I feel it had to be said.
I was already said and it will probably be repeated in a few months.
Please take Internet for what it is: an international forum where
not everybody is limited to one language. While it maybe not what
you want, it is what is there. Also, there are people that will just
stop posting if they find there are "forced" to translate anything
interesting they write. For myself, I decided to stop cross-posting
to soc.genealogy.french what I send to fr.rec.genealogie. (I presume
this message followed my recent message "Une autoroute dans la mare").
Denis
Denis Beauregard, genealogiste amateur
Internet: be...@cam.org
Francais: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/index.html
Anglais: http://www.cam.org/~beaur/gen/welcome.html
Eric E Metzger
In article <1997060122...@gate.tcfarm.com>, Aline Bergemann
<aber...@HQ.TCFARM.COM> wrote:
> Hi Dick,
>
> I have found if there was something interesting that was written in French
> that all I had to do was request someone from this list to translate it for
> me. There is usually someone out there who will do it. So don't be afraid
> to ask! But remember to Thank them!
>
> Aline
>
> Cliff & Aline Bergemann *
> Woodburn, Oregon USA *
> aber...@hq.tcfarm.com *
I agree. All I ask is that the subject line refer to the names or subject
properly. If that is of interest, I'll take care of the rest, including
any required translations or replies.
As long as it uses a western alphabet.
-eric-
Robert Hudon
Paul Dupuy (PDu...@CONCENTRIC.NET) writes:
> Raymond Duquette wrote:
>>
>> R.L. Boisjolie wrote:
>> > Hi All--
>> > I may be wrong but it was my understanding that this list was intended
>> > for those who speak English...
<SNIP>
>> Dick -- Many understand your plight, however, we don't want to exclude
>> those who cannot...
<SNIP>
> With all due respect, the delete key is a mouse-click away.
>
> Paul in California
Thank you Paul for expressing my thoughts so well.
Robert in Florida
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