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Kaye Payne

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Oct 22, 2009, 8:56:17 PM10/22/09
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Hi,

Does anyone know a good calendar software program where you can enter the
data in without going to each individual date cell and entering the data in
a calendar - something like FTM where the calendar comes up with everyone's
birthday on the right day in the correct cell.

I would like to set up a calendar with information on each day, not
birthdays, but too complicated to go to each cell and enter the data.

Kaye Payne


Paul Blair

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Oct 23, 2009, 12:42:15 AM10/23/09
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Um - so how would you enter data?

Paul

john

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Oct 23, 2009, 4:00:55 AM10/23/09
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For birthdays I use the free Birthday from http://jebirthday.cjb.net/
With a modification of the entered text you can use it for other reminders.

For a general calendar I use Lightning, an add-on for Thunderbird. That
also allows you to enter tasks and events directly into a screen rather
than going to the day in the calendar. Since you use Outlook Express,
moving to Thunderbird would be easy as there is an import.

Ian Goddard

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Oct 23, 2009, 6:49:10 AM10/23/09
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Paul Blair wrote:
> Kaye Payne wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anyone know a good calendar software program where you can enter
>> the data in without going to each individual date cell and entering
>> the data in a calendar - something like FTM where the calendar comes
>> up with everyone's birthday on the right day in the correct cell.
>>
>> I would like to set up a calendar with information on each day, not
>> birthdays, but too complicated to go to each cell and enter the data.
>
> Um - so how would you enter data?

I also was puzzled about this at first. I think what Kaye's looking for
is something which would enable data to be typed in as text - date &
event - through a form or a list, maybe a spreadsheet, and then
presented on a calendar display.

Would that be right Kaye? It's possible there could be a spreadsheet
add-in to do that.

--
Ian

Hotmail is for spammers. Real mail address is igoddard
at nildram co uk

singhals

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Oct 23, 2009, 3:48:33 PM10/23/09
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Since several of the genealogy programs will do this, one
COULD simply create a database in there with the events one
wanted. One would /still/ be obliged to key in/type in
every event, though...

[For those who don't follow my logic: set the program to
use Mixed Case for names; then for the Name, it's League of
Nations, and for the birthdate it's the date it was created
(say, off the top of my head, 14 June 1919). The calendar
program would put Leageof Nations on the calendar slot for
14 June (and hen tell how old it is today).

For Anniversary events, say of the US' War Between the
States...Enter The Union and The Confederacy, and give them
a marriage date of (whatever the Ft Sumter date is). On the
correct day, the names will appear with the anniversay year
following.

But, again, one is obliged to type stuff in ...

Cheryl

Paul Blair

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Oct 23, 2009, 6:32:34 PM10/23/09
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<snip>

>
> But, again, one is obliged to type stuff in ...
>
> Cheryl
>

OK, I just use MS Outlook. All that stuff gets entered into the Contacts
list, and it reminds me a couple of days (or whatever I ask for) in
advance....so one entry does it. I also use Outlook for mail, so it all
works together.

Paul

Ian Goddard

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Oct 23, 2009, 7:45:26 PM10/23/09
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singhals wrote:
> Ian Goddard wrote:
>> Paul Blair wrote:
>>
>>> Kaye Payne wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know a good calendar software program where you can
>>>> enter the data in without going to each individual date cell and
>>>> entering the data in a calendar - something like FTM where the
>>>> calendar comes up with everyone's birthday on the right day in the
>>>> correct cell.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to set up a calendar with information on each day, not
>>>> birthdays, but too complicated to go to each cell and enter the data.
>>>
>>> Um - so how would you enter data?
>>
>>
>> I also was puzzled about this at first. I think what Kaye's looking
>> for is something which would enable data to be typed in as text - date
>> & event - through a form or a list, maybe a spreadsheet, and then
>> presented on a calendar display.
>>
>> Would that be right Kaye? It's possible there could be a spreadsheet
>> add-in to do that.
>>
>
<snip>

>
> But, again, one is obliged to type stuff in ...

Naturally. But as I read the OP she wanted to get the data in there
without the faff of navigating the calendar which is fair enough,
especially if there's lots to enter or if it already exists in another
format.

So it's a matter of one mechanism for getting the data in & another out.
She didn't say she wanted to use a genealogy program but just gave one
as an example. So I assume she wants simply a workflow along the lines of

Non-calendric data entry -> Stored data -> Calendric display

without all the additional functionality of a genealogy program. At
least that's how I read the specification.

Googling for "perpetual calendar" or "spreadsheet calendar" might turn
up suitable alternatives.

singhals

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Oct 24, 2009, 8:45:24 PM10/24/09
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Paul Blair wrote:

Still, it kinda depends on what she wants ON the calendar --

Standard holidays for this country or that one are built
into calendar software IN this country or that; and whether
she imports it and from what if she's using software
from and in Country A but wants to include standard holidays
from Country M ... goto 003 above. For a truly personalized
calendar such as one with the date one's grandson got his
first tooth or one's daughter graduated College or one's
son-in-law crashed their new car on the way home from the
dealership, one needs to provide the data one wants on the
calendar. Which means, goto 003 above.

Even in UFT, to create customiz(s)ed timelines, you had to
create the list for it. Which, as I recall, involved a fair
amount of typing and formatting.

It all SOUNDS so easy ... ;)

Cheryl

singhals

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Oct 24, 2009, 8:47:17 PM10/24/09
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Ian Goddard wrote:


In the interests of being difficult (you can have your turn
at it Monday) the fact that my genie program will let me do
(play Dixie when I pull up a Confederate Soldier, or flag
all deceased children, or whatever) does not require me to
do so. I ignore many frills in my genie programs (g).

And, you're right about the Google results.

Cheryl

Ian Goddard

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Oct 25, 2009, 12:05:57 PM10/25/09
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I think most people ignore many frills in most programs (assuming the
program is frilly!). OTOH there's a lot to be said for not using some
behemoth simply to use one of its frills. The behemoth takes time to
load, occupies memory and/or swap space whilst loaded, may not do quite
what's wanted, may be less responsive and, in extreme cases, such use
may have side effects on its own data.

> And, you're right about the Google results.

Of course.

singhals

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Oct 26, 2009, 11:35:51 AM10/26/09
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I'm not sure I see your point here, Ian. I mean, it's not
as if xcel is one of those anorexic programs that leaves
room for a herd of pregnant elephants, and most of the
Googled add-ons were for xcel. I don't see much difference
between a bloated genie program and a bloated non-genie
program ... but maybe I'm just jaded, and it /is/ your day
to be difficult after all ...

>
>>And, you're right about the Google results.
>
>
> Of course.

Modest to a fault (rolls eyes). ;)

Cheryl


Ian Goddard

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Oct 26, 2009, 3:31:46 PM10/26/09
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singhals wrote:
> I'm not sure I see your point here, Ian. I mean, it's not as if xcel is
> one of those anorexic programs that leaves room for a herd of pregnant
> elephants, and most of the Googled add-ons were for xcel. I don't see
> much difference between a bloated genie program and a bloated non-genie
> program ... but maybe I'm just jaded, and it /is/ your day to be
> difficult after all ...

I expected you might say that.

There's probably a couple of reasons for that finding. One is that a
lot of people have data in spreadsheets that they wish to display on a
calendar. It would be very odd if such add-ons didn't exist - and also
odd if human nature didn't lead to that wheel being reinvented many times.

The other is that people who want to have a go at programming will pick
out the platform they're most familiar with and Excel/VB is just that
for most people; they're not going to start from scratch with C or
anything else, especially if it would to cost them a bundle to buy
Visual Studio or Delphi to get started (in the Linux world, of course,
things are different).

>>
>>> And, you're right about the Google results.
>>
>>
>> Of course.
>
> Modest to a fault (rolls eyes). ;)

Fault? Fault? What do you mean?

But didn't you realise I'd already seen what Google had before I posted?

herman...@invalid.be

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Oct 27, 2009, 4:50:22 AM10/27/09
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Kaye Payne wrote:

Gramps can export to a calendar, but I never tried it myself. If you're
using another program to store your data, you might have to export the data
first to a gedcom, although Gramps can import different formats. Gramps has
both Linux and Windows versions.

Herman Viaene

--
Veel mensen danken hun goed geweten aan hun slecht geheugen. (G. Bomans)

Lots of people owe their good conscience to their bad memory (G. Bomans)

singhals

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Oct 27, 2009, 11:09:01 AM10/27/09
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Ian Goddard wrote:
> singhals wrote:
>
>>I'm not sure I see your point here, Ian. I mean, it's not as if xcel is
>>one of those anorexic programs that leaves room for a herd of pregnant
>>elephants, and most of the Googled add-ons were for xcel. I don't see
>>much difference between a bloated genie program and a bloated non-genie
>>program ... but maybe I'm just jaded, and it /is/ your day to be
>>difficult after all ...
>
>
> I expected you might say that.
>
> There's probably a couple of reasons for that finding. One is that a
> lot of people have data in spreadsheets that they wish to display on a
> calendar. It would be very odd if such add-ons didn't exist - and also
> odd if human nature didn't lead to that wheel being reinvented many times.
>

I /hear/ that. Every programmer thinks her own program
draws a rounder wheel.

> The other is that people who want to have a go at programming will pick
> out the platform they're most familiar with and Excel/VB is just that
> for most people; they're not going to start from scratch with C or
> anything else, especially if it would to cost them a bundle to buy
> Visual Studio or Delphi to get started (in the Linux world, of course,
> things are different).
>

Indeed; one doesn't write in languages one doesn't speak
...unless one is either naive or masochistic.

>>>>And, you're right about the Google results.
>>>
>>>
>>>Of course.
>>
>>Modest to a fault (rolls eyes). ;)
>
>
> Fault? Fault? What do you mean?
>

Permit me to rephrase -- no modesty in your family, you got
it all. (g)

> But didn't you realise I'd already seen what Google had before I posted?

I _assumed_ it, based on your past record, but nothing more.
(g) "Realising" it would have required information not on
the table?

Cheryl


cecilia

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Oct 27, 2009, 6:13:11 PM10/27/09
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:09:01 -0400, in soc.genealogy.computing you
wrote:

>[...]


>Indeed; one doesn't write in languages one doesn't speak
>...unless one is either naive or masochistic.

Masochistic is how I thought of myself this summer when I spent 4
weeks delving into Amharic. Though I was only prepared to type it -
writing was a step too far.

[Reason: I was visiting an immigration detainee for a few weeks in
June/July - it seemed to me we could increase our very limited common
vocabulary faster if I learnt a few words in his language while
encouraging him to learn more in mine.

I can still count to 20 - in either language <grin> !!]

cecilia

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Oct 28, 2009, 5:24:53 AM10/28/09
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:13:11 GMT, my...@ic24.net (cecilia) wrote:

a message that was not intended for the list/group.

Sorry about that; I should be more observant of what is in the To:
box when replying.

singhals

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Oct 28, 2009, 10:57:05 AM10/28/09
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cecilia wrote:

(G) I just did the same thing! I was trying to send myself
a note for the record and ended up sending it to the "boss"
instead. Didn't actually /matter/ that she sees it, but
it's just something else for her to delete.

Cheryl

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