Beware Windows XP update
Steve Hayes
Be very careful of installing it, and make sure you have Ststem Restore
enabled (I was only able to send this after doing a System Restore)
http://methodius.blogspot.com/2008/07/does-windows-update-block-internet.html
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Gene Y.
> I installed a Windows XP update today and in blocked Internet access.
>
> Be very careful of installing it, and make sure you have Ststem Restore
> enabled (I was only able to send this after doing a System Restore)
>
> http://methodius.blogspot.com/2008/07/does-windows-update-block-internet.html
>
settings are on the highest level it will block internet access. If you lower the setting one level
it will work. I preferred to uninstall the update and take back control of my computer. The
specific patch that caused this was the one to fix a DNS flaw that would allow someone to compromise
a DNS server.
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Charani
> This is a known problem with this update and zone alarm firewall.
> If your internet security settings are on the highest level it
> will block internet access. If you lower the setting one level it
> will work. I preferred to uninstall the update and take back
> control of my computer. The specific patch that caused this was
> the one to fix a DNS flaw that would allow someone to compromise a
> DNS server.
Even better is to download and install the Zone Alarm update which
fixes the problem.
It's ridiculous that ZA have had to issue a fix to a problem caused by
M$ who should have tested their patch against ZA to make sure it
worked properly in the first place - but that would require thought on
the part of M$!
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Charani who's thankfully she has ZA on her ME machine and Comodo on
her XP machine.
Ian Goddard
>
> It's ridiculous that ZA have had to issue a fix to a problem caused by
> M$ who should have tested their patch against ZA to make sure it
> worked properly in the first place - but that would require thought on
> the part of M$!
>
Or a change in attitude? NIH!
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Gene Y.
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:43:16 -0400, Gene Y. wrote:
>
>> This is a known problem with this update and zone alarm firewall.
>> If your internet security settings are on the highest level it
>> will block internet access. If you lower the setting one level it
>> will work. I preferred to uninstall the update and take back
>> control of my computer. The specific patch that caused this was
>> the one to fix a DNS flaw that would allow someone to compromise a
>> DNS server.
>
> Even better is to download and install the Zone Alarm update which
> fixes the problem.
>
> It's ridiculous that ZA have had to issue a fix to a problem caused by
> M$ who should have tested their patch against ZA to make sure it
> worked properly in the first place - but that would require thought on
> the part of M$!
>
It is not a matter of thought but of concern. When was the last time you heard of M$ CARING about
any other software manufacturer, or even of an end user?
cecilia
>[...] When was the last time you heard of M$ CARING about
>[...] an end user?
In Microsoft Knowledge Base (Article ID : 953230 at
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/953230) they state there is a problem,
and direct the reader to the Zone Alarm update that deals with it.
Charani
> It is not a matter of thought but of concern. When was the last
> time you heard of M$ CARING about any other software manufacturer,
> or even of an end user?
Quite! They do rather expect everyone to fall in with them, rather
than them working with everyone else. They only actually admit there
are problems when they are forced into it and then usually only
reluctantly. Their usual way is to deny there are any problems for
months on end, then reluctantly admit there *may* be a problem,
followed (about a year later) with a fix for a problem that they've
never admitted actually exists.
M$ themselves haven't do anything themselves about the problem
they've caused thousands of ZA users other than tell people that *ZA*
have fixed the M$ problem - but what use is that if people can't get
online to find out about it?
Charani
> Or a change in attitude? NIH!
*That* would be much better but there's a snowflake in hell's chance
of that ever happening, as you say!!
Paul Blair
Why are you surprised? These sorts of problems have been going on for
yonks, and if MS decide to amend a product of theirs, why should they be
obliged to certify all other products to work as before, especially as
many third-party software houses ignore or try to work outside the pale?
Read the EULA...
However, when alerted they do take note, and usually (to their credit)
publish fixes or work-arounds.
There were early warnings of this 5 months ago
(http://www.crn.com/software/206801221) when Vista ran into snags. As XP
trails Vista by some months, it was highly likely that the problem would
propagate downwards.
Paul
us...@domain.invalid
>
> Why are you surprised?
I'm not ... Microsoft is a big nasty company.
> These sorts of problems have been going on for
> yonks, and if MS decide to amend a product of theirs, why should they be
> obliged to certify all other products to work as before, especially as
> many third-party software houses ignore or try to work outside the pale?
Normal programs should "just work". I've NEVER had a Microsoft update
break one of my programs, except when Windows stopped perfectly
emulating direct writing to registers of extended VGA cards. And I've
written lots of strange programs.
> Read the EULA...
>
> However, when alerted they do take note, and usually (to their credit)
> publish fixes or work-arounds.
>
> There were early warnings of this 5 months ago
> (http://www.crn.com/software/206801221) when Vista ran into snags. As XP
> trails Vista by some months, it was highly likely that the problem would
> propagate downwards.
>
HOWEVER, Zone Alarm and various virus scanners are not normal
programs. Microsoft knows this ... and not only that, they specifically
recommend that people use virus protection products. Therefore, they should make
damn sure that these sorts of things continue to work.
Doug McDonald
Rich256
Really MS can't be expected to test against every possible program.
It is sort of the responsibility of the individual programs to verify
that they work with all operating systems. As I see it that is the
purpose of the Beta versions.
If you don't like MS switch to Linux. Support is the best.
Robert Melson
Rich256 <hrli...@yahoo.com> writes:
<snip>
> It is sort of the responsibility of the individual programs to verify
> that they work with all operating systems. As I see it that is the
> purpose of the Beta versions.
The problem is that M$ does not publish - and has never - a complete
and accurate API for Gates Universal Computer Virus. This makes it
difficult for 3d party developers to craft softward that's able to
accomodate to whatever changes M$ incorporates in its so-called
operating systems. Been there, done that, felt the pain.
>
> If you don't like MS switch to Linux. Support is the best.
Depends on which Linux distribution you're talking of. Me, I
use FreeBSD, which, if not perfect, is miles ahead of anything
M$ gouges for and, IMNSHO, better than most Linux distros, as well.
Senescent Ol' Bob
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