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Peter  
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 More options Aug 29 2007, 9:26 am
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From: Peter <beetl...@optusnet.com.au>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:26:14 +1000
Local: Wed, Aug 29 2007 9:26 am
Subject: PETERS / DAWS
PETERS / DAWS

I have a letter from two spinster sisters (Agnes and Elizabeth PETERS)
written in 1922 in which they state they had moved to live with their
cousin (a retired Schoolmaster, due to ill health) and his wife. The
address used was 364 Hanworth Road, Hounslow.

The sisters died in 1930 (February and November) aged 83 and 74
respectively and both certificates show the informant to be –“ F. W.
DAWS, cousin, in attendance, 61 Whitton Road, Hounslow.”

Having researched their mother's line (WELLS) I can't find any evidence
of an F. W. DAWS connection. Perhaps their father (Daniel PETERS) had a
sister though I haven't been able to trace either his parents or
siblings, so this DAWS may be a breakthrough needed to continue the search.

Are there registers of School Masters or Teachers prior to 1922 ? this
could give me his full name and maybe a clue to his age.

Any suggestions on other sources to try would be appreciated.

Peter Arnold

Melbourne

Australia


 
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Graeme Wall  
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 More options Aug 29 2007, 10:45 am
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From: Graeme Wall <Gra...@greywall.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:45:03 +0100
Local: Wed, Aug 29 2007 10:45 am
Subject: Re: PETERS / DAWS
In message <mailman.1482.1188395516.7287.genb...@rootsweb.com>
          Peter <beetl...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

A possibility:

FreeBMD has a Frederick William Daws marrying in Brentford in the December
quarter of 1892, 3a 178.  Spouse either Sarah Benham or Ellen Amelia Clark

There's another (or possibly the same) Frederick William Daws marrying in
Brentford in the September quarter of 1908, 3a 268.  No information on
spouse unfortunately.

--
Graeme Wall

My genealogy website:  
<http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/index.html>


 
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Don Moody  
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 More options Aug 29 2007, 12:06 pm
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From: "Don Moody" <dpmo...@btinternet.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:06:27 +0100
Local: Wed, Aug 29 2007 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: PETERS / DAWS

"Peter" <beetl...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message

news:mailman.1482.1188395516.7287.genbrit@rootsweb.com...

Schoolmasters came in great variety in the era of DAWS but if he was a
graduate there were relatively few places he could have come from, and
in Hounslow relatively few schools at which he could have taught. In
that era people did not have cars and commute miles to work. They
walked or went by bike or bus.

Information about the subject(s) taught would limit the choice
further. Some subjects were taught in one kind of school but not in
others.

The WELLS and DAWS were sufficiently old to be found in the 1901 and
earlier Censuses and you might find they are parts of a local family.
Hanworth Road and Whitton Road are but a stroll apart. there might be
others in the neighbourhood.

Don


 
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Hugh Watkins  
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 More options Aug 29 2007, 4:50 pm
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From: Hugh Watkins <hugh.watk...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:50:30 +0100
Local: Wed, Aug 29 2007 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: PETERS / DAWS

Peter wrote:
> PETERS / DAWS

> I have a letter from two spinster sisters (Agnes and Elizabeth PETERS)
> written in 1922 in which they state they had moved to live with their
> cousin (a retired Schoolmaster, due to ill health) and his wife. The
> address used was 364 Hanworth Road, Hounslow.

> The sisters died in 1930 (February and November) aged 83 and 74
> respectively and both certificates show the informant to be –“ F. W.
> DAWS, cousin, in attendance, 61 Whitton Road, Hounslow.

get into the electoral rol to get the full names

Hugh W

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A. Jones  
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 More options Aug 29 2007, 5:38 pm
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From: "A. Jones" <a...@clara.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:38:53 +0100
Local: Wed, Aug 29 2007 5:38 pm
Subject: Re: PETERS / DAWS

"Peter" <beetl...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message

news:mailman.1482.1188395516.7287.genbrit@rootsweb.com...

> Are there registers of School Masters or Teachers prior to 1922 ? this
> could give me his full name and maybe a clue to his age.

> Any suggestions on other sources to try would be appreciated.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID...

 
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Just a visitor  
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 More options Aug 29 2007, 7:46 pm
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From: "Just a visitor" <visi...@sgb.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:46:18 +0100
Local: Wed, Aug 29 2007 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: PETERS / DAWS

"Peter" <beetl...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:mailman.1482.1188395516.7287.genbrit@rootsweb.com...
> PETERS / DAWS

> I have a letter from two spinster sisters (Agnes and Elizabeth PETERS) written in 1922 in which they state they had
> moved to live with their cousin (a retired Schoolmaster, due to ill health) and his wife. The address used was 364
> Hanworth Road, Hounslow.

> The sisters died in 1930 (February and November) aged 83 and 74 respectively and both certificates show the informant
> to be -" F. W. DAWS, cousin, in attendance, 61 Whitton Road, Hounslow."

> Having researched their mother's line (WELLS) I can't find any evidence of an F. W. DAWS connection. Perhaps their
> father (Daniel PETERS) had a sister though I haven't been able to trace either his parents or siblings, so this DAWS
> may be a breakthrough needed to continue the search.

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveSearch.asp?WebType=0
Gazette Issue 32817 published on the 24 April 1923. Page 43

WILLIAM FUNGE, Deceased.
Pursuant to the Law of Property Amendment Act,
1858 (22 & 23 Viet., c. 35).
NOTICE is hereby given, that all creditors and
persons having any claims or demands upon or
Against the estate of William Funge, late of No. 61,
Whitton-road, Hounslow, in the county of Middlesex,
Coal Merchant, deceased (who died on the llth
day of February, 1921, and whose will was proved by
Frederick William Daws, of No. 40, Whitton-road,
Hounslow aforesaid, 'Clerk, the executor therein
named, on the 24th day of May, 1921, in the Principal
Probate Registry), are hereby required to send
in the particulars of their claims and demands to the
undersigned, the Solicitors of the said executor, on
or (before the 19th day of May, 1923; and notice is
hereby also given, that after that day the said
executor will proceed to distribute the assets of the
deceased among the parties entitled thereto, having
regard only to the claims of which the said executor
shall then have notice; and that he will not be liable
for the assets, or any part thereof, so distributed, to
any person of whose debt or claim he shall not then
have had notice.-Dated this 16th day of April, 1923.
GARNER and SONS, Hounslow, Solicitors for
026 the Executor.
Re JESSIE LILIAS McLEAN

poss still alive 1947
Gazette Issue 38041 published on the 8 August 1947. Page 39


 
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Malvary in Ottawa  
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 More options Aug 30 2007, 12:38 am
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From: "Malvary in Ottawa" <malva...@sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:38:37 -0400
Local: Thurs, Aug 30 2007 12:38 am
Subject: Re: PETERS / DAWS

"Just a visitor" <visi...@sgb.net> wrote in message
news:486dnXs-v_TNmEvb4p2dnAA@bt.com...

In 1901 the two sisters (born in Lambeth) were living on High Street, Esher,
Surrey.  Agnes (b. 1847) and Elizabeth (b.1856) were 'Living on Means'.

There is a Frederick W. Daws (born in Hounslow) age 19 living with his
parents and a whole slew of siblings at 47 Holloway Street, Hounslow, North.

1881 census shows the two sisters living with their parents on High Street,
Esher.

1871 census has the family including 2 sons still living on High Street.
1861 same except there is a third son.
1851 living at Vauxhall Row, Lambeth only 3 children born at this stage.
1841 might be them Daniel Peters and Charlotte Wells, working at Eaton
Place, Belgrave (married Jun qtr of 1843)

I kept checking hoping that I might find a sister, or parent living with
them, but no luck.

Malvary in Ottawa


 
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Graham Hoult  
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 More options Aug 30 2007, 5:04 am
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From: Graham Hoult <g.ho...@igrin.co.nz>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:04:11 +1200
Local: Thurs, Aug 30 2007 5:04 am
Subject: Re: PETERS / DAWS
On  Wed, 29 Aug 2007 Peter <beetl...@optusnet.com.au> wondered

Hi Peter

I think my very first move would be to search the probate indexes to
see if Agnes and Elizabeth PETERS left a will or an estate to be
administered.  Being spinsters they may well have named a number of
relatives.

I would expect any half-decent Mormon Family History Library to have
the Probate Indexes, also  the Victorian State Library and possibly
the Genealogical Society of Victoria.

This would seem to be the family in the 1881 census:

  Daniel PETERS          Head    M       Male    67      Twickenham,
Middlesex, England       Retired Grocer Parish Clerk      
  Charlotte PETERS       Wife    M       Female          65  
         Denham, Buckingham, England              
  Agnes PETERS   Daur    U       Female          33      Lambeth,
Surrey, England                  
  Elizabeth PETERS       Daur    U       Female          25  
         Lambeth, Surrey, England        Dressmaker      
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source Information:
        Census Place    Esher, Surrey, England
        Family History Library Film     1341198
        Public Records Office Reference         RG11
        Piece / Folio   0839 / 28
        Page Number     50

I would also have a look to see if Daniel PETERS left a will. It will
probably entail a few years search but you should be able to
recognise his entry if you see it by his occupation.

Have you seen the other census entries for Daniel's household
(looking for siblings, also aunts, uncles etc)?

I presume that this is the marriage of Agnes and Elizabeth's parents

   Marriages Jun 1843
   PETERS        Daniel          St George Han Sqr       1      10
   WELLS         Charlotte       St Geo Han Sq   1      10

The marriage certificate should give the name of Daniel's father and
his occupation to help you look for Daniel's parents' family in other
censuses - and hopefully find any of Daniel's siblings.

Back to Agnes and Elizabeth's death certificates. How clear is the
name of the informant? Is there any possibility that the name of the
cousin may have been F.W.  DAVIS?

Hope this helps
Graham Hoult
Kirwee, Canterbury, NZ


 
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C Rihan  
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 More options Sep 2 2007, 5:51 am
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From: "C Rihan" <csrihan.no.s...@thank.you.btopenworld.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:51:09 +0100
Local: Sun, Sep 2 2007 5:51 am
Subject: Re: PETERS / DAWS

"Peter" <beetl...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message

news:mailman.1482.1188395516.7287.genbrit@rootsweb.com...

> PETERS / DAWS

> I have a letter from two spinster sisters (Agnes and Elizabeth PETERS)
> written in 1922 in which they state they had moved to live with their
> cousin (a retired Schoolmaster, due to ill health) and his wife. The
> address used was 364 Hanworth Road, Hounslow.

Had he just retired, or had he been retired for years?
Have you tried looking in a street directory to see who they were with ?

> The sisters died in 1930 (February and November) aged 83 and 74
> respectively and both certificates show the informant to be -" F. W. DAWS,
> cousin, in attendance, 61 Whitton Road, Hounslow."

Have you tried looking for him in the 1901 census?

> Having researched their mother's line (WELLS) I can't find any evidence of
> an F. W. DAWS connection. Perhaps their father (Daniel PETERS) had a
> sister though I haven't been able to trace either his parents or siblings,
> so this DAWS may be a breakthrough needed to continue the search.

I found FreeBMD has some male DAWS marrying in the same year/quarters as
female WELLS. (may be more in different year/quarters)

Dec qtr 1841 James DAWS, Ann WELLS, registered Guildford.
Dec qtr 1851 William DAWS , Mary Ann Sarah WELLS, registered N.Aylesford

Best wishes
C.Rihan


 
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Ron Bass writ backwards  
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From: Ron Bass writ backwards <ten....@ssab.nor>
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:26:49 GMT
Local: Sun, Sep 2 2007 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: PETERS / DAWS
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:51:09 +0100, "C Rihan"

The Q4 1851 marriage was celebrated on Dec 7, 1851 at St. Helen's
Parish Church, Church Street, Cliffe-at-Hoo, Kent.  The Groom was a
Tailor, aged 21, son of William Daws, also a Tailor .  The Bride, aged
20, was the daughter of William Wells, Bailiff for the Earl of
Darnley.  Witnesses were William Wells Junr. and Mary Ann Wells, who
made her mark.

The entry from the parish register is available at
<http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark...>.

  -Ron


 
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