I am researching this family, I would appreciate any information, regarding descendants of John Savage, date and whereabouts of birth unknown, but died in Cowfold in 1745. Particularly interested to know if there are any living relatives in this area.
On Sunday, 9 July 2000 17:00:00 UTC+10, jennis wrote:
> I am researching this family, I would appreciate any information, regarding
> descendants of John Savage, date and whereabouts of birth unknown, but died
> in Cowfold in 1745. Particularly interested to know if there are any living
> relatives in this area.
> Jenni Savage
I have the following information - but NONE of it is verified. I also would like information on this family and confirmation of this info. These Savages were all born in Cowfold, Sussex, England (if my information is correct!).
John Savage, 1666-1745 m. Mary Gratwycke (Gratwick) 1691
they had son
John Savage b. 1702, married Mary?
they had son
John Savage b. 1735, married Hannah Brook
they had son
William Savage b. 1772, d. 1821, married Margaret Smallwood
I am amazed: I have been looking for a long time (without much success) into the *origin* of the in Holland mentioned Sergeant Hendrick Gratwijck, some 2 generations earlier:
Indeed:
in Nimwegen, Netherlands, marriage banns (annoucemens) for:
Bruidegom (bridegroom): Hendrick Gratwijck (militair)
Bruid (bride) : Merrij Gosslars
Datum document: 02/11/1623 (is 2 nov)
Opmerking (remark) Hij (he) : weduwnaar (widower), sergeant van (of) kapitein Wilhemsen. Zij (she): weduwe (widow of) van Evert Claessen. Attestatie (attest given) voor huwelijk (marriage) te (in) Gouda. Ook afroepen ( also banns in ) te Gennep. ).
In the Dutch town Gouda nothing was found..(bizarre..generally records of this period are extant), and, moreover, in the Dutch town Gennep not found either (but its church registers then were destroyed and only partially recovered later..)
Getuigen ( witnesses) Hubert Reiniers met zijn vrouw (with his wife), Dorothea Heijmans
Datum Ondertrouw (banns) 02/11/1623
Bron (source): Huwelijksregister Nederduits-Gereformeerde gemeente Nijmegen (RBS 1172/293) (Dutch reformed church in Nimwegen Netherlands).
ote this : Please bear in mind that many English and Scottish regiments were serving as auxilliary armies to the Dutch (republican) 'State' army since the 1580's (in our freedom fight against the Spanish overlord King Philip II).
I believe personnally that the name Gratwijck is only slightly possibly an English/Scottish name then, but, or rather, a malscription of the Craywinckel/ Cramwinckel surname, ... but hey, up to you to believe this ; so there you are.!
Pieter J.Cramwinckel
On 01/11/2012 12:03, daisyduckwo...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, 9 July 2000 17:00:00 UTC+10, jennis wrote:
>> I am researching this family, I would appreciate any information, regarding
>> descendants of John Savage, date and whereabouts of birth unknown, but died
>> in Cowfold in 1745. Particularly interested to know if there are any living
>> relatives in this area.
>> Jenni Savage
> I have the following information - but NONE of it is verified. I also would like information on this family and confirmation of this info. These Savages were all born in Cowfold, Sussex, England (if my information is correct!).
> John Savage, 1666-1745 m. Mary Gratwycke (Gratwick) 1691
> they had son
> John Savage b. 1702, married Mary?
> they had son
> John Savage b. 1735, married Hannah Brook
> they had son
> William Savage b. 1772, d. 1821, married Margaret Smallwood
Concerning the name Gratwycke (re : John Savage, 1666-1745 m. Mary Gratwycke (Gratwick) 1691.
It is now clear that the below mentioned Sergeant Gratwijk is no Dutchman but Englishman (in the army in Netherlands).
Indeed I found a record in the English presbyterian church in Amsterdam: Baptism record for Elisabeth Gratewick, daugter of William Gratewick, christened on 10-05 1643 (mother not mentioned, no witnesses)
Source: DTB 137, p.67, Doopregister: NL-SAA-24264502, Amsterdam Town Archive. [doop=baptism]
I suspect that Willam Gratewick is a son of the below mentioned Sergeant Hendrick [Henry] Gratwijkck
I did not find any other baptisms in this Amsterdam register
> I am amazed: I have been looking for a long time (without much success)
> into the *origin* of the in Holland mentioned Sergeant Hendrick
> Gratwijck, some 2 generations earlier:
> Indeed:
> in Nimwegen, Netherlands, marriage banns (annoucemens) for:
> Bruidegom (bridegroom): Hendrick Gratwijck (militair)
> Bruid (bride) : Merrij Gosslars
> Datum document: 02/11/1623 (is 2 nov)
> Opmerking (remark) Hij (he) : weduwnaar (widower), sergeant van (of)
> kapitein Wilhemsen. Zij (she): weduwe (widow of) van Evert Claessen.
> Attestatie (attest given) voor huwelijk (marriage) te (in) Gouda. Ook
> afroepen ( also banns in ) te Gennep. ).
> In the Dutch town Gouda nothing was found..(bizarre..generally records
> of this period are extant), and, moreover, in the Dutch town Gennep not
> found either (but its church registers then were destroyed and only
> partially recovered later..)
> Getuigen ( witnesses) Hubert Reiniers met zijn vrouw (with his wife),
> Dorothea Heijmans
> Datum Ondertrouw (banns) 02/11/1623
> Bron (source): Huwelijksregister Nederduits-Gereformeerde gemeente
> Nijmegen (RBS 1172/293) (Dutch reformed church in Nimwegen Netherlands).
> ote this : Please bear in mind that many English and Scottish regiments
> were serving as auxilliary armies to the Dutch (republican) 'State' army
> since the 1580's (in our freedom fight against the Spanish overlord
> King Philip II).
> I believe personnally that the name Gratwijck is only slightly possibly
> an English/Scottish name then, but, or rather, a malscription of the
> Craywinckel/ Cramwinckel surname, ... but hey, up to you to believe this
> ; so there you are.!
> Pieter J.Cramwinckel
> On 01/11/2012 12:03, daisyduckwo...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, 9 July 2000 17:00:00 UTC+10, jennis wrote:
>>> I am researching this family, I would appreciate any information,
>>> regarding
>>> descendants of John Savage, date and whereabouts of birth unknown,
>>> but died
>>> in Cowfold in 1745. Particularly interested to know if there are any
>>> living
>>> relatives in this area.
>>> Jenni Savage
>> I have the following information - but NONE of it is verified. I also
>> would like information on this family and confirmation of this info.
>> These Savages were all born in Cowfold, Sussex, England (if my
>> information is correct!).
>> John Savage, 1666-1745 m. Mary Gratwycke (Gratwick) 1691
>> they had son
>> John Savage b. 1702, married Mary?
>> they had son
>> John Savage b. 1735, married Hannah Brook
>> they had son
>> William Savage b. 1772, d. 1821, married Margaret Smallwood
