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From: "Tony Moore" <tony-mo...@bigpond.com>
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Subject: Re: SHIP ENQUIRY
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:19:53 +1100
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Dear Dianne,

The exact difference in the two vessels is 86 tons (deadweight).

ELPHINSTONE
BARQUE OF LONDON , HENRY TILMAN, MASTER, BURTHEN 425 TONS,
FROM THE PORT OF FALMOUTH TO PORT JACKSON, 
NEW SOUTH WALES, 7TH JULY 1848
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1848/07/013elp.htm


MOUNT STUART ELPHINSTONE
BARQUE OF LONDON, WILLIAM DALE, MASTER, BURTHEN 511 TONS
FROM THE PORT OF MELBOURNE TO PORT JACKSON, NEW SOUTH WALES
31ST JULY 1852
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1852/07/057mou.htm

see also:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/8919898

Barque: (definition):
1. a sailing ship of three or more masts having the foremasts rigged square and 
the aftermast rigged fore-and-aft
2. 1. A sailing ship with from three to five masts, all of them square-rigged 
except the after mast, which is fore-and-aft rigged.
3.  http://img.tfd.com/wn/EF/6207F-barque.png
4.  http://tinyurl.com/8zfxhtu

General Answer: very close barques (woof !)


Cheers,

Tony Moore
(Castle Hill, NSW)

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On 9 Oct 2012 at 16:13, Dianne wrote:

From:           	"Dianne" <d...@bigpond.com>
Subject:        	SHIP ENQUIRY
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Date sent:      	Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:13:42 +1000
To:             	gen...@rootsweb.com
Send reply to:  	Dianne <optio...@lists2.rootsweb.com>

> Hi all, I have a family who travelled on the ship Elphinstone arriving at 
> Port Jackson NSW on 7.7.1848. Left Plymouth on 8/3/1848.  Trying to find an 
> image of this barque - there is a ship called the mountstewart Elphinstone.
> WOULD ANYONE KNOW IF THIS MAY BE THE SAME SHIP.
> 
> MANY THANKS, REGARDS, DIANNE