S.A. Shipping
Barbara J.Kolle
Can anyone in South Australia tell me if there's any possibility of
finding shipping records into Adelaide in 1913, please? If so, how
would one go about acquiring same?
Have a safe and peaceful Easter....Barbara
Barbara Kolle
E-mail bee...@optusnet.com.au
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~dkolle
Tony Moore
Since you are in Melbourne, the following CD / database is available
in the State Library Of Victoria. It will give you the details of how
and when your ancestor first touched land in Australia. Armed with
that information you can then narrow down your search to a particular
ship's manifest. Presumably the ship dropped people at each
Australian capital city.
see
http://www.sro.wa.gov.au/collection/passenger.html
Passenger Arrivals into Western Australia, 1898-1925 [CD-ROM]
This index was compiled by the Western Australian Genealogical
Society (WAGS) from Immigration Department records held by the
National Archives (WA Branch) and from passenger lists held by the
SRO. It records over 430, 000 passengers into Western Australia
arriving frome overseas as well as other Australian ports.
Cheers,
Tony Moore
(Balgo, Western Australia)
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Lynette Begg
>Presumably the ship dropped people at each Australian capital city.
Is this what happened when the ships docked in WA because my experience is
that they came to only one port and sometimes two. Assisted Immigrants
didn't even get a look anywhere along the way in case they got off the ship
and the English government lost their labour in the Colony.
Just wondering.....
Lynette Begg
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From: Tony Moore [mailto:tony-...@bigpond.com]
Sent: Thursday, 13 April 2006 11:20 PM
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: S.A. Shipping
Dear Barbara,
Since you are in Melbourne, the following CD / database is available
in the State Library Of Victoria. It will give you the details of how
and when your ancestor first touched land in Australia. Armed with
that information you can then narrow down your search to a particular
ship's manifest.
see
Tony Moore
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Tony Moore
It is certainly a big presumption on my part, but if some of my
ancestors who disembarked in Sydney turned up on the Vic records then
one might expect SA ones to just possibly be mentioned on the
W.A.records. Perhaps the authorities of the time may have demanded a
full passenger list. Who knows? I certainly don't
If the ship was not fully chartered with bounty immigrants for SA
then it's highly likely the ship stopped in WA (Fremantle?). The
captain COULD prevent bounty passengers from going ashore, although
he might have a near rebellion.
I had one of mine (1839) where the ship was not mentioned in the "Log
of Logs" books, yet was on microfilm with Bounty records complete. I
think some things may have been mis-filed over the years and when it
came to photographing records, it was just done box by box.
How many times have you found all sorts of things in an office in the
wrong filing cabinet or in the wrong drawer around your home ?
I'm always misplacing my keys, and often when I try to backtrack I
still can't find them. They're always one more step back from where I
had already triple checked..... so I had to lift and move EVERY item
not just give a cursory glance while in panic mode !
My personal policy is "always look in the wrong place for the right
answer" and "never discount a possible source until you've checked it
thoroughly"
I sincerely hope that this explains my assumptions
Cheers,
Tony Moore
(Balgo, Western Australia)
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On 14 Apr 2006 at 9:05, Lynette Begg wrote:
> Tony, you said
>
> >Presumably the ship dropped people at each Australian capital
city.
>
> Is this what happened when the ships docked in WA because my
> experience is that they came to only one port and sometimes two.
> Assisted Immigrants didn't even get a look anywhere along the way
in
> case they got off the ship and the English government lost their
> labour in the Colony.
>
> Just wondering.....
>
> Lynette Begg
<<snipped>>
> > Can anyone in South Australia tell me if there's any possibility
of
> > finding shipping records into Adelaide in 1913, please? If so,
how
> > would one go about acquiring same?
<<snipped>>
Barbara J.Kolle
Unfortunately I've already checked this CD but didn't find the family
my friend is seeking so guess I'll/she'll just keep on trying in the
hope of finding them one day.
Kind regards....Barbara
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:20:56 +0000 (UTC), tony-...@bigpond.com
("Tony Moore") wrote:
>Dear Barbara,
>
>Since you are in Melbourne, the following CD / database is available
>in the State Library Of Victoria. It will give you the details of how
>and when your ancestor first touched land in Australia. Armed with
>that information you can then narrow down your search to a particular
>ship's manifest. Presumably the ship dropped people at each
>Australian capital city.
>
>see
>http://www.sro.wa.gov.au/collection/passenger.html
......snip...........
Lynette Begg
some years ago for the shipping for my SA families and was successful. I
had to pay a small fee for the info to be posted to me ($5 per ship I
think), but that could be changed by now.
The 1913 time frame is outside the 19th Century migration records though, so
this would not be a state immigration matter but a Commonwealth one. Ask
the National Archives in Canberra. They may then refer you back to the
State Archives for SA, depending on how they were kept etc. I've enquired
at the National Archives after one of my family who are 'recent' immigrants,
only arriving in 1906 and those records are unindexed and in NSW State
Archives on microfilm so I have to make a visit to them next time I go to
Sydney to find my family's migration records.
Hope this helps.
Lynette
Barbara J.Kolle
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:21:03 +0000 (UTC), dand...@optusnet.com.au
("Lynette Begg") wrote:
>I'm not an expert, or from SA, but I enquired at the Maritime Museum in SA
>some years ago for the shipping for my SA families and was successful. I
>had to pay a small fee for the info to be posted to me ($5 per ship I
>think), but that could be changed by now.
Good idea, and will pass on your comments to the friend I've been
trying to help so that she can follow up further. I've not done just
S.A. work myself so its great to acquire helpful suggestions such as
yours.
>
>The 1913 time frame is outside the 19th Century migration records though, so
>this would not be a state immigration matter but a Commonwealth one. Ask
>the National Archives in Canberra. They may then refer you back to the
>State Archives for SA, depending on how they were kept etc. I've enquired
>at the National Archives after one of my family who are 'recent' immigrants,
>only arriving in 1906 and those records are unindexed and in NSW State
Thank you again.....Barbara
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