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Betty Candy

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Nov 30, 2001, 5:46:42 PM11/30/01
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I'd say its a photo,not a painting. What is on the back?

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Betty Candy
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"Vivienne Wooster" <vwoo...@cust.caloundra.net> wrote in message
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> I have an old painting of a woman sitting at a table.
> Would anybody recognise the style of dress and be able to give an
> approximate date and perhaps a country? I have made a guess of
c1840 -1850.
>
> Painting dimensions are: W 23cm x H 28.5cm. The only colours used are
black
> and white on what appears to be a cream coloured card.
>
> View the painting at www.geocities.com/bbutterflyvee/pages/help.htm
>
> Thanking you in advance,
> Vivienne Wooster.
> vwoo...@cust.caloundra.net
>
>


Greg

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Nov 30, 2001, 8:01:18 PM11/30/01
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Vivienne Wooster wrote:

> I have an old painting of a woman sitting at a table.
> Would anybody recognise the style of dress and be able to give an
> approximate date and perhaps a country? I have made a guess of c1840 -1850.
>
> Painting dimensions are: W 23cm x H 28.5cm. The only colours used are black
> and white on what appears to be a cream coloured card.
>
> View the painting at www.geocities.com/bbutterflyvee/pages/help.htm
>
> Thanking you in advance,
> Vivienne Wooster.
> vwoo...@cust.caloundra.net

Try my dating photos pages - http://www.acay.com.au/~gsm/DatingPhotos.html
includes pictures of people in 1840s-60s on page
http://www.acay.com.au/~gsm/1850s.html

Greg


Greg

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Nov 30, 2001, 8:01:34 PM11/30/01
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Vivienne Wooster

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Dec 1, 2001, 12:12:28 AM12/1/01
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Hi Betty,
It is a painting; you can see the brushstrokes and possible pencil
markings on it. There is nothing on the back or anywhere else.

Cheers,
Vivienne
vwoo...@cust.caloundra.net


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Jenny Miners

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Dec 1, 2001, 2:35:59 AM12/1/01
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It is a photo I put it into my photo program lightened it and what you think
are brush marks are folds in the dress, and there are a lot of scratches on
the surface and other marks, I have a lot of old photos with simular marks.
Cheers Jenny

"Vivienne Wooster" <vwoo...@cust.caloundra.net> wrote in message
news:3c0763ee@plover...
> I have an old painting of a woman sitting at a table.
> Would anybody recognise the style of dress and be able to give an
> approximate date and perhaps a country? I have made a guess of
c1840 -1850.
>
> Painting dimensions are: W 23cm x H 28.5cm. The only colours used are
black
> and white on what appears to be a cream coloured card.
>
> View the painting at www.geocities.com/bbutterflyvee/pages/help.htm
>
> Thanking you in advance,
> Vivienne Wooster.
> vwoo...@cust.caloundra.net
>
>


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Shirley & Martin Mortara

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Dec 1, 2001, 4:08:52 AM12/1/01
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The painting is possibly an old photo taken I think in the mid 1800's when
they stuck photos dowm onto cards. Shirl
Greg wrote in message <3C082BDE...@acay.com.au>...

Vivienne Wooster

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Dec 1, 2001, 10:19:48 AM12/1/01
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Thanks for all the feedback. Robert suggested a little more research
and I have pored over the item since then and visited many photos
sites.

As you can see by the dimensions given it is larger than an A4 sheet.
It appears to be layers of card 1mm thick. Another thin sheet is
pasted over the top. I thought it was a photo when I was first given
it but have found a few inconsistencies. The colour of her face,
hands, background and table are the same - cream coloured. Any
variation of this colour has been achieved by crosshatching, possibly
with a pencil or perhaps a fine nib and ink. I looked closely at her
dress and that appears to be ink too but applied with a brush. The pen
or nib has been dug right in when drawing her pupils leaving noticable
indentations.

The perspective of her right arm seems wrong - too flat. The table
also appears flat. The thumb on her left hand has its fingernail
showing as well as the fingernail of her index finger. Try doing that
yourself :-)

The dado on the wall to her left does not match up with that on her
right hand side. The leg of the table is not vertical.

As to my guess of the date being c 1840 -1850, I looked at Greg's
"Dating Photos" and saw a similar dress on a lady from that period.

She certainly has me stumped.

Once again, thanks for the feedback,
Vivienne
vwoo...@cust.caloundra.net

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