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GENANZ-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 314

Today's Topics:
#1 Daphne Jean VALLANCE ["David and Mary Cannon" <dcannon@b]
#2 RE: AHERN: anywhere; anytime; [py...@ceres.dti.ne.jp (p.w.mcentyre]
#3 AVOCA CEMETERY [der...@castlemaine.net.au (Derek ]
#4 Re: AH TONG/TONG [der...@castlemaine.net.au (Derek ]
#5 Re: Platelayer [Mike Lillington <mi...@rallymap.dem]
#6 Re: Platelayer [pea...@voyager.co.nz (Pearl Wilson]
#7 Free Submission to 620 Search Engi [3256...@14078.com]
#8 MWI [hu...@xtra.co.nz (Hugh Winters)]
#9 La Perouse Name Origin? [Murf <farr...@netlink.com.au>]
#10 The History of Forbes [Kerry Highley <ke...@arawang.com.a]
#11 Re: La Perouse Name Origin? [pj...@interact.net.au (John Blue)]
#12 Adoption address? [sto...@crt.net.au (Barbara)]
#13 Free Christian Church [David_C...@tnt.com.au]
#14 Re: Accident in Sydney Harbour [notn...@intercoast.com.au]
#15 Re: Adoption address? [gro...@ozemail.com.au (Pat Rossi)]
#16 Re: Platelayer [Whistler <ajke...@mail.atcon.com>]
#17 Re: Free Christian Church [Scott & Bronwyn Farber <farbers5@h]
#18 David Olley [a...@melbpc.org.au (arnild holderne]
#19 D MODE [bo...@goulburn.net.au (Bob Breen)]
#20 Re: David Olley [lis...@outeast.cyberspace.net.au ]
#21 Hunnisett Family History ["DODD" <do...@iinet.net.au>]

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Date: 18 Sep 1997 13:59:48 GMT
From: "David and Mary Cannon" <dca...@bigfoot.com>
Message-ID: <01bcc43b$7de7f780$351815cb@cannon-jung>
Subject: Daphne Jean VALLANCE

I am looking for information on the whereabouts of Daphne Jean Vallance,
who was living in or somewhere near Paraparaumu (Kapiti Coast), New
Zealand, in November 1965. I don't know whether she has changed her name
(by marriage or other means) or not.

I hesitate to put this advertisement here, but I do think adoption
inquiries are somewhat related to genealogy, in some sense. If you find
this message inappropriate, please let me know, and I'll respect that.

If you know the whereabouts, or the current name, of Daphne Jean Vallance,
please hit "reply to author" (or the address in my signature below), and
let me know.

THANKS!!!
--
David Cannon
<dca...@bigfoot.com>

Please visit my *recently updated* HOMEPAGE at
<http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/DJ_Cannon/homepage.htm>

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Date: 18 Sep 1997 07:38:59 -0700
From: py...@ceres.dti.ne.jp (p.w.mcentyre)
Message-ID: <01BCC48B...@ppp10.matsudo.dti.ne.jp>
Subject: RE: AHERN: anywhere; anytime;

Try this guy out. He is one of the best>. )

ah...@WORLD.STD.COM

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He is one of the best.

From Peter In Japan.

Helping for a change.

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 18 Sep 1997 08:48:16 -0700
From: der...@castlemaine.net.au (Derek & Di Reid)
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G'day
Could some kind soul with access to the Avoca Cemetery records see if an
Alfred AH TONG or could have been Alfred TONG is buried there in 1864. He
would have only been about 4 or 5 years old
Thanks
Di Reid

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Date: 18 Sep 1997 08:56:07 -0700
From: der...@castlemaine.net.au (Derek & Di Reid)
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G'day
Would be very interested in hearing from anyone researching the family of
James AH TONG and Catherine PRICE. When some of the children married
they used the family name of TONG.
Thanks
Di Reid

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:45:12 +0100
From: Mike Lillington <mi...@rallymap.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <E5eP6LAo...@rallymap.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Platelayer

In article <1997091811...@coastal.intercoast.com.au>, Ronda
Harford <ron...@intercoast.com.au> writes
>Does anyone know what occupation a Platelayer is?
>

Ronda,

In the UK, a platelayer worked on the railway laying and maintaining the
track ! (Thats my definition)

The Missus tells me officially it is:

"A Surfaceman or track maintenance worker, inspecting and laying
permanent way. From the laying of cast iron angle plate rails on
plateways"

The term is apparently obsolete !

They have machines to do it today :-(

--
Mike Lillington (The Ordnance Survey Mapping Specialist)
RALLYMAPS of WEST WELLOW, PO BOX 11, ROMSEY, HAMPSHIRE, SO51 8XX. U.K.
Tel/FAX: 01794 515444 International +44 1794 515444
e-mail: mi...@rallymap.demon.co.uk www.rallymap.demon.co.uk

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 18 Sep 1997 11:30:18 -0700
From: pea...@voyager.co.nz (Pearl Wilson)
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Subject: Re: Platelayer
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At 04:33 AM 18/9/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Does anyone know what occupation a Platelayer is?
>
>Cheers
>Ronda
=======

A Mother at Breakfast time??? Before Father leaves for his
work with the Railways, laying the tracks.

Cheers,
Pearl.

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X-Message: #8
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Date: 18 Sep 1997 13:54:43 -0700
From: hu...@xtra.co.nz (Hugh Winters)
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The Marriage Witness Indexes

Indexes of witnesses to marriages that took place in the United Kingdom, Australia, and
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marriage as well as the name and address of the genealogist to whose family the couple belong.

The Indexes are proving to be a very useful finding aid for genealogists and searches of
the index for specific surnames can be requested from :-

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X-Message: #9
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 11:18:01 -0700
From: Murf <farr...@netlink.com.au>
Message-ID: <341C2A...@netlink.com.au>
Subject: La Perouse Name Origin?
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Hi all,

Does anyone know the Origin of the place name 'La Perouse' in Sydney NSW?

If so, let me in on the secret.

Thanks,

Murf

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X-Message: #10
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:12:19 +1000
From: Kerry Highley <ke...@arawang.com.au>
Message-ID: <3421B5...@arawang.com.au>
Subject: The History of Forbes
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Those of you with relatives/an interest in Forbes, NSW may like to know
that our company has edited The History of Forbes. It is presently being
typeset and is due to be launched by Bob Carr on 21 November 1997. It
will be a goldmine for genealogy buffs!
Kerry

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X-Message: #11
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 18 Sep 1997 16:27:29 -0700
From: pj...@interact.net.au (John Blue)
Message-ID: <1997091823...@grey.interact.net.au>
Subject: Re: La Perouse Name Origin?
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Hi Murf,

> Does anyone know the Origin of the place name 'La Perouse' in Sydney NSW?
>
> If so, let me in on the secret.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Murf
The Sydney suburb of La Perouse was named after the renowned French
Navigator, Jean Francois de Galaup, Comte de La Perouse (1741-88).

This is of historic significance in that in 1788 ships of two great
nations were sailing towards Botany Bay, in the Great South Land. One
group was from Britain under Captain Arthur Phillip (1783-1814) bringing
the First Fleet of Convicts to establish a colony. The other was a French
exploration fleet led by the Comte de La Perouse! He was seeking shelter
in a peaceful bay after his men had been attacked by Samoans. The french
fleet entered the bay on 26 January 1788 and saw, to their surprise
British ships riding at anchor.

The french camped on the northern shore (La Perouse) where the wounded
crew members received attention. A scientist with the expedition, Father
Receveur, died in February and was buried at what has since been called la
Perouse!

When the french ships sailed out of Botany Bay they vanished completely
and it was not until 1826 that the mystery was solved whentheir wrecks
were found on an island in the Santa Cruz group.

Frenchman today often make a pilgrimage to La Perouse, there are two
memorials there, the grave of Father Receveur, and the large La Perouse
monument erected in 1825 by the French commemorating the explorer.

At the time Governor Brisbane proposed that the land where these two
memorials stand should be made over to France, but this was never done and
so the land remains the property of Australia.

A more detailed account is given in the book "The Book of Sydney Suburbs"
ISBN 0 207 19007 0 First published by Angus and Robertson in 1988,
republished by Cornstalk in 1996. The information above is from the
Cornstalk edition which was compiled and edited by Frances Pollon.

I hope this helps.

John

John A.L. Blue, PO Box 542 Mawson ACT 2607 Australia
Fax:+61 2 6291 1119
email: jb...@interact.net.au

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X-Message: #12
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 18 Sep 1997 18:07:11 -0700
From: sto...@crt.net.au (Barbara)
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.1997091...@crt.net.au>
Subject: Adoption address?
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Hi,
I am trying to find an address to write to, to find out if there are any
records of my grandmother's adoption. I was on the state library of
Victoria web site and they made reference to Health and Community Services,
but I can't find their address on whitepages.com.au. The records I am
looking for are the children's register in Victoria. Can anyone help me?
TIA
Barbara

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X-Message: #13
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 18 Sep 1997 18:11:42 -0700
From: David_C...@tnt.com.au
Message-ID: <305448E1@MHS>
Subject: Free Christian Church
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Hi All,

I have a marriage cert for 1902. It has the place of marriage as Church
Office, Cromwell Building performing "Free Christian Church" rites. The
location was Cromwell Building op GPO Melbourne.

As I'm not a Melbournian, does anyone know:
1) Is/was there a church there (does the Cromwell Building still exist)?
2) What was the Free Christian Church - just a small protestant group?
3) Do/Did they have an actual church building as I'm wondering if this
was a quicky marriage?

Thanks
David Christian, Thirroul, NSW
David_C...@tnt.com.au

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X-Message: #14
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 00:15:18 GMT
From: notn...@intercoast.com.au
Message-ID: <3421c410...@newsnews.acay.com.au>
Subject: Re: Accident in Sydney Harbour

hu...@xtra.co.nz (Hugh Winters) wrote:

>I am trying to find out if there was a boating accident in Sydney harbour
>around 1900.

Just checked "Australia through time" for 1898 to 1902, and no such
accident is mentioned.

Bruce Rabbidge, in Sydney Australia.
Remove the "not" from my email address for reply.
<ne...@intercoast.com.au>

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X-Message: #15
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 18 Sep 1997 18:28:18 -0700
From: gro...@ozemail.com.au (Pat Rossi)
Message-ID: <3421D4...@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: Re: Adoption address?
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Barbara wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I am trying to find an address to write to, to find out if there are any
> records of my grandmother's adoption. I was on the state library of
> Victoria web site and they made reference to Health and Community Services,
> but I can't find their address on whitepages.com.au. The records I am
> looking for are the children's register in Victoria. Can anyone help me?
> TIA
>

Hi Barbara,

Like all Govt Departments - why make it easy when you can make it
difficult!!! It appears that they have changed their name to:-

Dept of Human Services, (as distinct from Humane Services)
555 Collins Street,
Melbourne. Vic. 3000

Regards,

PAT ROSSI,
Melbourne, Australia.

Using her son's internet account <gro...@ozemail.com.au, and LOVING it!!

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X-Message: #16
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 22:52:06 -0700
From: Whistler <ajke...@mail.atcon.com>
Message-ID: <342213...@mail.atcon.com>
Subject: Re: Platelayer
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Ronda Harford wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what occupation a Platelayer is?
>
> CheersRonda

A platelayer was employed by a railroad company in the construction of
railroads. Th following is a direct quote from The Guiness Book of Rail
Facts and feats:-

Cast iron bars on the tops of wooden rails were first recorded in use at
Coalbrookdale, Shropshire, in 1767. They served a double function: to
protect the rails from wear: and to act as a store for stocks of pig-iron
during a period of low prices and at the same time to enable the furnaces
to remain in operation. They were 5'(1.524m) long, 4"(10.2cm) wide and
1.25"(32mm) thick. The men who layed these were known as 'platelayers', a
term still in use today(1971) for permanent-way men.

Tony Kettle

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Tony Kettle, } Occupation
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Newfoundland } Papermaking - Secondary Fibre Procurement

Hobbies } Philately/Woodworking/Genealogy/Gardening/Hiking/Railroads
Researching family names KETTLE/SHATTOCK/FARNILL/HUNT/GAWLER
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X-Message: #17
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 11:32:06 +0800
From: Scott & Bronwyn Farber <farb...@hkstar.com>
Message-ID: <3421F2...@hkstar.com>
Subject: Re: Free Christian Church
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>
> As I'm not a Melbournian, does anyone know:
> 1) Is/was there a church there (does the Cromwell Building still exist)?

The Cromwell Building is an office building in Bourke Street, just up
the street from the GPO.

Bronwyn

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X-Message: #18
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:50:38 GMT
From: a...@melbpc.org.au (arnild holderness)
Message-ID: <5vt44d$c0n$1...@wombat.melbpc.org.au>
Subject: David Olley

Hi all,
I am looking for a David Olley born 1856 in Australia. Sorry no
further information at this stage.
Arnold a...@melbpc.org.au

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X-Message: #19
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 18 Sep 1997 23:19:41 -0700
From: bo...@goulburn.net.au (Bob Breen)
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Subject: D MODE
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From: "Bob Breen" <bo...@goulburn.net.au>
To: "GENANZ" <GENA...@rootsweb.com>,
"GENBRIT" <GENB...@rootsweb.com>,
"GENIRE" <GENI...@rootsweb.com>,
"YORKSGEN" <YORKS...@rootsweb.com>
Subject: D MODE
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With 'rootsweb' handling most GEN groups the following is occurring:
1. L messages reach my Inbox perfectly,
2. My preference, D mode, DOES NOT reach the Inbox,
3. GENBRIT-NMD (non mime digest) reaches Inbox perfectly.

Would you advise me about this D digest problem? Is it me, you or
somewhere in between? What is the solution?

In the meantime, with great interest, I am subscribed to
GENBRIT-NMD,YORKSGEN-L and use the newsgroups soc.genealogy ireland and
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Bob Breen.
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X-Message: #20
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 18 Sep 1997 23:29:32 -0700
From: lis...@outeast.cyberspace.net.au (Lisa Schreurs)
Message-ID: <199709190636.QAA30047@outeast>
Subject: Re: David Olley
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Arnold,
David Olley was born in 1857 in Prahran, Melbourne to Christina Milne and
Robert Olley, reg. no 1102. David's parents were married in 1849 (no. 29042
Fiche no. 419) at St Peter's Church of England, Melbourne.
Other children were John b. 1852 no. 11900, fiche 250
James Milne b. 1859 in South Yarra no. 6779
Maryanne b. 1850 reg no. 293 and died 1853, aged 3, reg. no. 1405
Sophia Deborah b. Prahran in 1861, no. 12491
John (other John must have died) 1864 no. 11648
Robert b. 1853 no. 919

Christina Milne's name is spelled "Millen" on some entries.

Lisa
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> From: arnild holderness <a...@melbpc.org.au>
> To: NOT-A-REA...@bl-12.rootsweb.com
> Subject: David Olley
> Date: Friday, September 19, 1997 2:50 PM
>
>
> Hi all,
> I am looking for a David Olley born 1856 in Australia. Sorry no
> further information at this stage.
> Arnold a...@melbpc.org.au

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GENANZ-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 316

Today's Topics:
#1 New discussion lists for Australia [Randall Haight <hai...@listserv.no]
#2 NEW discussion lists for New Zeala [Randall Haight <hai...@listserv.no]
#3 HENDERSON/COULSON, SYDNEY, 1914 [Jan.G...@hawkerc.act.edu.au (Jan]
#4 MCCA ? [gr...@es.co.nz (Jan Paterson)]
#5 Ballarat History Fair [cl...@lin.cbl.com.au (Clare Gervas]
#6 Re: Indexes for arrivals to Qld ?? ["SUE OSBORNE" <OSBORNE@onaustralia]
#7 SMITH, NSW Birth. [lionel....@ancest.com.au (Lio]
#8 MIDDLETON ["James K. Tauber" <jtauber@jtauber]
#9 PRINCE ["James K. Tauber" <jtauber@jtauber]
#10 Vic: BARRY, JONES or fisherman of [tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au (Pa]
#11 Christian name DURLEY [tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au (Pa]
#12 HILL Family Christchurch, New Zeal [les.b...@xtra.co.nz (Les Beeche]
#13 Re: NEW discussion lists for New Z ["Dave Joll" <jol...@es.co.nz>]
#14 Re: NSW Lookup-Harris/Rooney [audrey green <aud...@southcom.com]
#15 NSW birth lookup [audrey green <aud...@southcom.com]
#16 Re: AVOCA CEMETERY [der...@castlemaine.net.au (Derek ]
#17 Van Wijck/Van Wyck/van Wijk/ etc. [Tony Van Wijck <Tony.Vanwyck@ping.]
#18 HTMLGenie Version 1.2 Now Availabl ["Bryan Duchesne" <cre...@nbnet.nb]
#19 "SWIFTSURE" ["MARGIE" <mb...@cyberalink.com.au>]
#20 BIRTH LOOK UP NSW [auss...@ix.netcom.com (David Anth]
#21 List Your Homepage [Webmaster <leg...@polaris.net>]
#22 Maranui W? NZ. Where is it? [pars...@isnet.is.bgsm.edu (Helen ]
#23 West Indies Surname List [vro...@sprynet.com (Vaughn W. Roya]
#24 Re: "SWIFTSURE" [David J Grimshaw <grim...@ihug.co]

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 20:37:47 -0700
From: Randall Haight <hai...@listserv.northwest.com>
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Hi
I have setup lists for all the counties in Australia. They are for
genealogy and history discussion you can join one or all. When
you join you will be added to a list called australia this list
is for general discussion for all of Australia. This way you will
not have to post multiple message to the county list for all to see.

Coming soon will be Norway,denmark,sweden and Finland. I also will start
on the U.S
with New York, Massachusetts and Michigan by counties.

You can join in digest or reg mail mode pick the list name.

Send a message to: majo...@listserv.northwest.com
Put subscribe <listname> as in subscribe western-australia
Put the in the body of the message and send

australia by regions

western-australia
northern-territory
south-australia
queensland
new-south-wales
victoria
tasmania
western-australia-digest
northern-territory-digest
south-australia-digest
queensland-digest
new-south-wales-digest
victoria-digest
tasmania-digest

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 20:31:29 -0700
From: Randall Haight <hai...@listserv.northwest.com>
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Subject: NEW discussion lists for New Zealand
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Hi
I have setup lists for all the counties in New Zealand. They are for
genealogy and history discussion you can join one or all. When
you join you will be added to a list called new-zealand this list
is for general discussion for all of New Zealand. This way you will
not have to post multiple message to the county list for all to see.

Coming soon will be Norway,denmark,sweden and Finland. I also will start
on the U.S
with New York, Massachusetts and Michigan by counties.

You can join in digest or reg mail mode pick the list name.

Send a message to: majo...@listserv.northwest.com
Put subscribe <listname> as in subscribe northland-nz
Put the in the body of the message and send

New Zealand by regions

northland-nz
auckland-nz
waikato-nz
bay-of-plenty-nz
gisborne-nz
hawkes-bay-nz
taranaki-nz
manawatu-wanganui-nz
wellington-nz
tasman-nz
nelson-nz
marlborough-nz
west-coast-nz
canterbury-nz
otago-nz
southland-nz
northland-nz-digest
auckland-nz-digest
waikato-nz-digest
bay-of-plenty-nz-digest
gisborne-nz-digest
hawkes-bay-nz-digest
taranaki-nz-digest
manawatu-wanganui-nz-digest
wellington-nz-digest
tasman-nz-digest
nelson-nz-digest
marlborough-nz-digest
west-coast-nz-digest
canterbury-nz-digest
ctago-nz-digest
southland-nz-digest

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 00:04:31 -0700
From: Jan.G...@hawkerc.act.edu.au (Jan Glasby)
Message-ID: <v01530503b0492121e5f0@[192.168.40.1]>
Subject: HENDERSON/COULSON, SYDNEY, 1914
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Hi all,

I am looking for information about my grandparents.

David Moncur HENDERSON born 15 Oct 1887 Dundee, died May 1927 in Sydney.
His parents were John HENDERSON, a baker, and Jane LAMONT.

David married Elizabeth Tweedle COULSON on 16 May 1914 in Drummoyne,
Sydney. Elizabeth was born 24 August 1883 in Glasgow, died 26 June 1939 in
Sydney. Her parents were Thomas Tweedle COULSON, an ironturner/journeyman,
and Jane BENNIE.

Any information would be appreciated.

Regards,
Jan Glasby

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X-Message: #4
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 00:14:34 -0700
From: gr...@es.co.nz (Jan Paterson)
Message-ID: <1997092006...@Zeus.es.co.nz>
Subject: MCCA ?
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What place does the abbreviation MCCA apply to for the birth of
Margaret Jane PURVIS,born 1862,15578,Victoria Birth Index ?

Also a look up please for a 1860 Victoria marriage of
Richard Thomas WHEELER to Julia Rosina FAUL.

Anyone researching;
William HUTCHINSON, b abt 1848,LND,ENG.
married Janet MARTIN, b Jun 1855,Linlithgow,WLN,SCT.
Looking for Janets parents,IGI shows mothers name Margaret.
Nothing else known about Janets parents.
HUTCHINSON's arrived NZ,1860.
TIA;Graham

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X-Message: #5
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 06:12:42 GMT
From: cl...@lin.cbl.com.au (Clare Gervasoni)
Message-ID: <5vvt99$8jj$2...@loomi.telstra.net>
Subject: Ballarat History Fair
MIME-Version: 1.0

Each year the Central Highlands Historical Society (CHHA) presents an
History Fair in Ballarat, Victoria. (See exhibitors below).

The Fair includes displays, Records, Photographs and Research Advice
from Regional Historical Societies and invited specialists.
Entertainment, Devenshire Teas and the reknowned Homemade Pasties.

This years theme is LAW and ORDER.

VENUE: The Army Ranger Barracks, Curtis St, Ballarat.

DATE: Saturday 11th October and Sunday 12th October 1997

TIME: 10.00am to 4.00pm

COSTS: $2.00 (children free.)

WEEKEND SPECIAL: Special deals for entry to the Ballarat Art Gallery,
Gold Museum and the History Fair. (email for further

details) example - a family ticket (2 Adults, 4 children)
to all 3 venues
$20.00. All tickets can be used over the two days.

CHHA PARTICIPANTS:
* Avoca Historical Society
* Bacchus Marsh Historical Society
* Ballan Shire Historical Society
* Ballarat Engine and Machinery
* Ballarat Genealogical Society
* Ballarat Historical Society
* Ballarat Tramways
* Bungaree Historical Society
* Buninyong Historical Society
* Carisbrook Historical Society
* Clunes Museum
* Creswick Historical Museum
* Daylesford and District Historical Society
* Gold Museum
* Hepburn Springs Swiss/Italian Festa
* Learmonth Historical Society
* Montrose Cottage
* Public Record Office (Ballarat)
* Ranger Museum
* Skipton Historical Society
* Snake Valley Historical Society
* Woady Yallock Historical Society

PARTICIPATING INVITED GUESTS
* 40th Regiment
* Bendigo Chinese Museum
* Creswick Light Horse
* Police
* Public Record Office Deeming Exhibition
* Drummer Boy (Eureka) Display
* Pollywoodside
* J-Ward Ararat
* Old Melbourne Gaol
* Police Historical Unit
* Church of Latter Day Saints
* Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages
* Sovereign Hill Education Unit
* Williamstown Museum
* Ballarat Cornish Association
* Australian Institute of Genealogical Studies
* Genealogical Society of Victoria
* Royal Historical Society of Victoria
* Ballarat Municipal Library
* Scottish Group
* Geelong Family History Group
* Bendigo Historical Group
* Eureka Flag Video
* Maps/Plans
* Ballarat Tourism
* Police History
* Friends of Sovereign Hill

For further information email cl...@cbl.com.au

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X-Message: #6
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 97 09:01:35 GMT
From: "SUE OSBORNE" <OSB...@onaustralia.com.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc59b$f77e8d00$e92a868b@remote>
Subject: Re: Indexes for arrivals to Qld ??
MIME-Version: 1.0

Yes indeed the indexes are published by the Central Queensland Family
History Association Inc, PO Box 6000, Rockhampton Mail Centre, Qld 4702.
When I bought mine a year ago, the prices were: 1860-9 $27.50; 1870-9 (2
books) $47; 1880-99 $87 (4 books). All included postage. They were in the
process of reprinting 1848-59.
Hope this helps
Sue Osborne

Margaret Morters <mmor...@acay.com.au> wrote in article
<34204012...@news.acay.com.au>...
>
>
>
> While up in Qld recently I came across some F/cap sized books with
> yellow covers in which were listed arrivals to Qld from abt 1855ish to
> 1900 and something . does anyone know if these are still available
> ?
>
>
> TIA
>
>
> Margaret <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<from>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Berkeley Vale
>
> Beautiful Central Coast of
>
> NSW
> Australia
>
> mmo...@acay.com.au
>

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X-Message: #7
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 00:28:25 GMT
From: lionel....@ancest.com.au (Lionel Benstead)
Message-ID: <8747...@ancest.com.au>
Subject: SMITH, NSW Birth.
MIME-Version: 1.0

-=> Quoting Mi...@nor.com.au to All <=-

Mi> Could some kind soul do a lookup in the NSW births for me please.
Mi> I'm looking for a Mary Anne SMITH about 1848 in Sydney, Mother Mary,
Mi> Father ?. Many thanks in advance.
Mi> Mike R.

Try
SMITH Mary A 1847 f/m John/Mary A,Roman Catholic,Sydney St James',
V18472669 64
or
SMITH Mary A 1848 f/m Thomas/Mary A,Presbyterian, Sydney,St Andrew's Scots
Church V18481294 49
and few others but not Sydney ie Richmond, Windsor,Cowra/Orange,
Campbelltown, Yass, Queanbeyan, Camden/Picton.
Regards
Lionel

... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR]

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X-Message: #8
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 08:27:34 GMT
From: "James K. Tauber" <jta...@jtauber.com>
Message-ID: <01bcc61d$85300800$a76118cb@caleb>
Subject: MIDDLETON
MIME-Version: 1.0

Looking for ancestors of

Wesley Jonathan MIDDLETON
b. ?1880
m. 1908 Betsy Agnes THACKER

son of Ann CUMMINS

--
James K. Tauber / jta...@jtauber.com
Perth, Western Australia
XML Pages: http://www.jtauber.com/xml/

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X-Message: #9
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 08:26:21 GMT
From: "James K. Tauber" <jta...@jtauber.com>
Message-ID: <01bcc61d$5983eaa0$a76118cb@caleb>
Subject: PRINCE
MIME-Version: 1.0

Looking for ancestors of

Alfred Edward PRINCE
b. 1865 Marrickville, NSW
m. Minnie LOCK

son of Thomas Maysey PRINCE and Angela PROWLES

--
James K. Tauber / jta...@jtauber.com
Perth, Western Australia
XML Pages: http://www.jtauber.com/xml/

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X-Message: #10
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 02:22:33 -0700
From: tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au (Patricia Jungwirth)
Message-ID: <199709200921.TAA29386@aardvark>
Subject: Vic: BARRY, JONES or fisherman of Westernport Bay.
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Hello folks, Hello Dolly, Hello Bob

and who do we have tonight Dolly

well Bob,

I got a Barry and a Jones!

Well thankyou Dolly - and are we ready for Pick a Box?

Anybody researching this lot - I swiped the info from Vicgold - its still up
and running - saves me doing the typing - would they please call -

I'm after info about a fisherman Evan Jones - an American?? or American born
Welshman? I believe Evan was a fisherman at Westernport bay for a while -
there is no evidence? that he had any siblings around at the time but I
believe his wife - Mary BARRY may have had siblings-family in Gippsland
quite early.

JONES, Evan born 1831 NEW PROVIDENCE, USA
married 1859 MELB, VIC to
BARRY, Mary born 1841 CO CAVAN, IRELAND

Children (9)
JONES, Louisa born 1860 MT ELIZA, VIC
JONES, Evan Gilbert born 1864 FRANKSTON, VIC
JONES, Ann Durley born 1865 FRANKSTON, VIC died 1866
JONES, John Henry Newton born 1867 SCHNAPPER PT, Vic
JONES, James Melvin born 1869 TYABB, VIC
JONES, William born 1871 TYABB, VIC
JONES, Mary Ann Eliz born 1873 TYABB, VIC
JONES, Isabella Victoria born 1875 TYABB, VIC
JONES, Harriet Eliza born 1877 TYABB, VIC

thankyou Dolly

regards
Bob.
p.s. Dolly have you seen my big game fishing rod?? and my eukele.

take care,

Tricia

-------------------"I wish I was on some Australian mountain range
I got no reason to be there but
I imagine it would be some kinda change... "
-----------------------------------------------Bob Dylan, 'Outlaw Blues'
------------------------------------------------------------January 1965

***tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au
**snail mail:

Patricia Jungwirth
PO Box 205
Ferny Creek
Victoria
Australia 3786

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X-Message: #11
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 02:29:54 -0700
From: tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au (Patricia Jungwirth)
Message-ID: <199709200928.TAA29711@aardvark>
Subject: Christian name DURLEY
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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Hi,

Has anybody any comments on the name Durley as a christian name - would
somebody please tell me - where is Durley?

Has anybody noticed that sometimes a person ends up with a christian name in
honour of their birthplace - like I've got a Bellarine - born near Geelong
no less.

I don't suppose there's a Charles Spotwsood Brown or a Jane Yarraville Smith
out there?

thanking you
{:>-
take care,

Tricia

***tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au
**snail mail:

Patricia Jungwirth
PO Box 205
Ferny Creek
Victoria
Australia 3786

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X-Message: #12
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 02:45:39 -0700
From: les.b...@xtra.co.nz (Les Beecher)
Message-ID: <1997092009...@MajorD.xtra.co.nz>
Subject: HILL Family Christchurch, New Zealand.
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Greetings all

I am trying to find any decendants of a Leicester Edwin HILL late of
Christchurch.

He was born in Kaitaia, 1900 and passed away in Christchurch in 1990 at
the grand old age of 90.

His first marriage was to Florence Hilda Nellie McMURRAY in 1923, who passed
away in 1929 in Christchurch, issue unknown. She was a sister of
Frederick Percival McMURRAY, Killed WW I. and daughter of Blanche and
Frederick McMURRAY (nee Lindsay)

His second marriage, in 1938, was to an Elsie Maud GOLDING b. ? died
1956 at Christchurch. Again issue unknown.

Blanche McMURRAY's second marriage was into my family but we dont have
her photo and little information on her or the above familiy.

Hopefully the HILL decendants can help?

Please contact me by Email.

Regards
--
Les Beecher <les.b...@xtra.co.nz>
Nelson, Sunshine Capital of New Zealand.

Researching my family from;
Addlestone,Chertsey ->N.Z. + USA
"Little Loughborough", Tiverton Devon ->N.Z. + USA
Isle of Sheppey, Sheerness -> N.Z.

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X-Message: #13
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 11:59:58 GMT
From: "Dave Joll" <jol...@es.co.nz>
Message-ID: <01bcc5bd$0871d560$04654cd1@gis-engin-53>
Subject: Re: NEW discussion lists for New Zealand
MIME-Version: 1.0

Randall Haight <hai...@listserv.northwest.com> wrote in article
<34234390...@listserv.northwest.com>...
> Hi
> I have setup lists for all the counties in New Zealand.

While this does seem a good idea, these subdivisions
of New Zealand are *not* counties. A "county" was a
(normally rural) administrative unit. Cities, boroughs
etc. were independent from the counties. For example:

> otago-nz

Lake, Vincent, Maniototo, Waitaki, Tuapeka, Waihemo,
Waikouaiti, Taieri, Silverpeaks, Peninsula, Bruce and
Clutha Counties (and possibly a couple I have missed)
all existing at some point between 1875 and 1989.

> southland-nz

Southland, Wallace, Fiord and Stewart Island Counties.

> They are for
> genealogy and history discussion

This is also a good idea. I am more interested in
history as a whole than just genealogy.

> New Zealand by regions

A bit closer - although "region" is the word
applied to a particular (current) administrative
division - the Regional Councils took over from
the Catchment Boards (and other like organizations).
>
> tasman-nz
> nelson-nz
> marlborough-nz

Surely at least one of these three is redundant?

Regards

Dave Joll

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 23:24:14 +1000
From: audrey green <aud...@southcom.com.au>
Message-ID: <3423CE...@southcom.com.au>
Subject: Re: NSW Lookup-Harris/Rooney
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Frank Elliot wrote:
>
> Would some kind soul do a BDM lookup in NSW for a
> William Harris married to Margaret Rooney and any
> children they may have had in that State,please.
>
> I have them as parents of my GG Grandmother who was
> born 1852 in Bruthen ,Victoria, but can find no other
> reference to them in this State. Given that Bruthen
> is so close to the border they may have moved across
> at some stage.
>
> Thank you in anticipation
>
> Frank Elliot
I checked the NSW Cd for you today. I could find no Harris /Rooney
marriage.
There are many William Harris but no one of knowing who's who in the
deaths.
There were children born to a william Harris and Margaret in 1856 and
1858 at Inverell and Ipswich.
Harris (male) #7635 in 1858 to William and Margaret
Harris William J #5053 in 1856 he died #2229 in 1856 son of William and
Margaret.
Sorry I could not find anything more useful to you.

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 23:33:20 +1000
From: audrey green <aud...@southcom.com.au>
Message-ID: <3423D0...@southcom.com.au>
Subject: NSW birth lookup
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BAILEY George H to William & Jane at Hartley in 1878 # 14125
BAILEY George H to George & Elizabeth at Armidale in 1879 # 8529
BAILEY George Alexander to Henry & Elizabeth at Queanbeyan in 1879
# 22027
BAILEY George Herbert to Francis & Winifred at Bathurst in 1880
#10083

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 07:13:44 -0700

From: der...@castlemaine.net.au (Derek & Di Reid)

Message-ID: <3424C9...@castlemaine.net.au>
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Lindsay Swadling wrote:

>
> On 18 Sep 97, Derek & Di Reid wrote:
>
> > Could some kind soul with access to the Avoca Cemetery records see if an
> > Alfred AH TONG or could have been Alfred TONG is buried there in 1864. He
> > would have only been about 4 or 5 years old
>

> Which particular Avoca would you be talking about? My Book of the
> Road list 5 places with that name, and I know there are more....
>
> best wishes from
> Lindsay Swadling in Mittagong, NSW, Australia
> lin...@hinet.net.au
>
> visit me at http://www.hinet.net.au/~linswad/

Avoca in Victoria
Do

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X-Message: #17
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 17:42:55 +0200
From: Tony Van Wijck <Tony.V...@ping.be>
Message-ID: <3423EE...@ping.be>
Subject: Van Wijck/Van Wyck/van Wijk/ etc.
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Hoping to discover distant relatives or remote ancestors I have put a
simplified version of my family tree on the Internet. The family name is
Van Wijck, Van Wijk, van Wyck, etc.
My URL is http://www.ping.be/~ping2855
Anuone who can add corrections or give additional information is welcome
to do so. Many thanks in advance.
Tony.V...@ping.be

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X-Message: #18
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 15:11:44 GMT
From: "Bryan Duchesne" <cre...@nbnet.nb.ca>
Message-ID: <01bcc5d7$b75b8480$69c9...@CREWSYS.nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject: HTMLGenie Version 1.2 Now Available
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HTMLGenie is now available for download at

http://www.deltastar.nb.ca/GeneaWare

In case you are wondering what HTMLGenie is, it is a program that reads
your GEDCOM into a database and can convert it to HTML in one of four
formats. You can choose images for banners and backgrounds as well as
colors for key areas in the HTML code. Minimum or no HTML editing is
required to publish your genealogy on the web.

The site above has some excellent examples of the type of output that the
software produces. The product is quite reasonably priced as well.

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 97 11:21:25 GMT
From: "MARGIE" <mb...@cyberalink.com.au>
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Subject: "SWIFTSURE"
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Where can I find info on the ship "Swiftsure" ?
Arrived Melbourne 1850"s. My G Grandfather was a seaman on board. Came from
England.

Thanks
MARGIE mb...@cyberalink.com.au

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X-Message: #20
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 10:09:37 -0700
From: auss...@ix.netcom.com (David Anthony Cain)
Message-ID: <1997092017...@dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com>
Subject: BIRTH LOOK UP NSW
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Would someone be kind enough to help me with this record:

BIRTH: BLOOMFIELD JANE M N
INDEX YEAR: 1830
FATHER: WILLIAM
MOTHER: JANE
DENOMINATION: CHURCH OF ENGLAND
PARISH: SYDNEY, ST PHILLIP'S
VOLUME REFERENCE: V1830469 22
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 0

I have, with help, tried to find this church record at the local
library without luck. This is in the USA. I was wondering if anyone in
Australia who may have access to the church records, could check the
details. I am particularly interested in the mother's surname, and the
father's occupation.

Sincere thanks in anticipation,
Carol Cain,
auss...@ix.netcom.com

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X-Message: #21
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 14:04:46 -0700
From: Webmaster <leg...@polaris.net>
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Subject: List Your Homepage
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Free self-listing service of the listing website reviewed by
Heritage Books News:

http://www.polaris.net/~legend/listings/listings.html

Over 1500 others have added their's, where is yours?

Genealogy Gateway(TM) To The Web
http://www.polaris.net/~legend/bookmark.htm
"Where substance takes precedence over style - 25,000 listings"

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X-Message: #22
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 14:35:41 -0400
From: pars...@isnet.is.bgsm.edu (Helen Parsonage)
Message-ID: <parsonag-200...@slip166-72-106-167.nc.us.ibm.net>
Subject: Maranui W? NZ. Where is it?
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A kind soul sent me this entry from the 1914 Wises directory for New Zealand:
"Alfred Morton Carpenter Maranui W (dont know where this is)"
Can anyone help me identify this - or tell me what the W stands for?
Thanks in advance,
Helen

--
The Look-Up Exchange: County-by-County Genealogical Resources for the Whole of England.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/8555/lookup.html
Mirrored at:
http://freespace.virgin.net/m.harbach/lookup.html

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 19:08:22 GMT
From: vro...@sprynet.com (Vaughn W. Royal)
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Subject: West Indies Surname List
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WEST INDIES SURNAME INTERESTS LIST
September 20, 1997

INVITATION TO SUBMIT SURNAMES FOR ISSUE NO. 10. You are
invited to make surname submissions for publication in the tenth
issue of the West Indies Surname Interests List. Surnames are
welcome for any West Indian country, including Anguilla, Antigua,
Aruba, The Bahamas, Barbados, Barbuda, Belize, Bermuda, Bonaire,
British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Cuba, Curacao, Dominica,
Dominican Republic (Santo Domingo), French Guiana, Grenada,
Guadeloupe, Guyana, Haiti (St. Domingue), Jamaica, Martinique,
Montserrat, Nevis, Panama, Providencia and Santa Catalina Islands,
Puerto Rico, Saba, St. Barthelemy, St. Eustatius, St. Kitts, St.
Lucia, St. Maarten, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Suriname,
Trinidad and Tobago, Turks and Caicos Islands, and U.S. Virgin
Islands.

WHAT IT IS . . . The West Indies Surname Interests List is a
list of West Indian surnames of interest to researchers with e-mail
capabilities. The List is organized by West Indian country. There
is no charge for submitting or subscribing. The Surname List is
distributed to subscribers by e-mail and is available on my web
page. The last issue contained 3,548 surnames entries from 655
researchers covering 39 West Indian countries. The last issue can
be downloaded from my Web page:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vroyal.

SUBSCRIBE BY E-MAIL OR WEB PAGE . . . Since the West Indies
Surname Interests List is a big document to receive by e-mail (more
than 150 printed pages), you also have the option to retrieve or
view it from my web page
(http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vroyal). If you choose
the web page option, you will still receive e-mail messages from me
telling you when new issues of the Surname List are available on
the web page. If you want to receive the Surname List by e-mail,
send me a message saying "subscribe e-mail". If you prefer web
page subscription, send me an e-mail message saying "subscribe web
page".

HOW TO SUBMIT SURNAMES FOR PUBLICATION . . . Send me a message
(Vaughn Royal, vro...@compuserve.com) including:

1. Your name;
2. Your e-mail address (one only, please);
3. Your location (city, state/province/parish and country); and
4. For each surname you are researching:
a. Surname (including spelling variations);
b. West Indian country (if not known, you may use "West
Indies");
c. Locality in which surname is of interest, if known (e.g.,
parish, county, department, region, etc.); and
d. The time frame for which you have information (limited to
12 characters; please be concise).
5. Subscription method: Either "Subscribe E-Mail" (meaning you
want to automatically receive issues of the Surname List by e-
mail) or "Subscribe Web Page" (meaning you will retrieve
issues of the Surname List from my web page). If you do not
specify, I will assume you want an e-mail subscription.

ISSUE NO. 10 SUBMISSION DEADLINE: Please e-mail your surname
submissions to me so that they are received not later than
September 24, 1997. Issue No. 10 will be sent to e-mail
subscribers and available on my web page on or about September 27,
1997.

Vaughn Royal
Alexandria, Virginia
vro...@compuserve.com

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 09:02:52 +1200
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MARGIE wrote:
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> Where can I find info on the ship "Swiftsure" ?
> Arrived Melbourne 1850"s. My G Grandfather was a seaman on board. Came =
from
> England.
>=20
> Thanks
> MARGIE mb...@cyberalink.com.au
Try _White Wings_ any library worth its salt will have it.
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GENANZ-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 317

Today's Topics:
#1 See Attachment [bo...@goulburn.net.au (Bob Breen)]
#2 Re: New discussion lists for Austr [pj...@interact.net.au (John Blue)]
#3 Macorna [ocon...@iaccess.com.au (Greg & An]
#4 Button Indexes [slon...@taunet.net.au (Sue O'Neil]
#5 D'ALESSIO name [da...@pandoras.gen.nz (Dawn Scottin]
#6 DRAFFINS in Australia [te...@clear.net.nz (termon)]
#7 Re: DRAFFINS in Australia [gh...@deakin.edu.au (Geoff Humble)]
#8 "Master Mariner" [ju...@edison.dialix.com.au (Judie)]
#9 Emily Day [ji...@ecn.net.au (Jill Ritchie)]
#10 Follows name change to Lansall [sp...@islandnet.com (Donna Cino)]
#11 Dernancourt [k...@pleiades.demon.co.uk (kaz)]
#12 Bruce ["B&M ELLIOTT" <bell...@pcug.org.a]
#13 London-L [hu...@xtra.co.nz (Hugh Winters)]
#14 Re: SOUTH AUSTRALIA CEMETERY [Carlen...@bbs.st.net.au (Carle]
#15 TINDRESSER [john.t...@ancest.com.au (John T]
#16 Arrival in Fremantle c 1905 [Sam van der wijngaart <samvanderw@]
#17 Online DPS Chat Room [peter...@bbs.st.net.au (Peter Du]
#18 New MLM to Explode Soon!! [wc...@aol.com (WCas)]
#19 Isaacs family ["Mel" <M...@plateau-of-leng.demon.c]
#20 CROSS family in New Zealand [croy...@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA (L.D]
#21 New Zealand -- Church / CROYDEN qu [croy...@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA (L.D]
#22 LONG/ORD, Tasmania -- ALLEN, Austr [croy...@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA (L.D]

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X-Message: #1
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 15:50:27 -0700
From: bo...@goulburn.net.au (Bob Breen)
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From: "Bob Breen" <bo...@goulburn.net.au>
To: "GENANZ" <GENA...@rootsweb.com>,
"GENBRIT" <GENB...@rootsweb.com>,
"GENIRE" <GENI...@rootsweb.com>,
"YORKSGEN" <YORKS...@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Does D Mode need Pegasus?
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 08:13:41 +1000
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Up to a month or so ago I received D digests perfectly. Since then,
with one exception, I cannot. The exception is the special digest
GENBRIT-NMD (non mime digest).

Firstly, no changes have been made at my end to cause this. Can
someone explain how this disappointing event occurred?

Secondly, installing Pegasus has been suggested. Can someone give
the details of this programme, including the costs and the whys?

Bob Breen.
bo...@goulburn.net.au
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X-Message: #2
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 16:23:00 -0700
From: pj...@interact.net.au (John Blue)
Message-ID: <1997092023...@grey.interact.net.au>
Subject: Re: New discussion lists for Australia
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Randall,
Is this really necessary?

You appear to have very little knowledge, if any of Australia and it's
geography. We do not have counties, the divisions you have set up are
States and Territories, and you have omitted the Australian Capital
Territory.

In reality, the lists GENANZ-L and GENANZ-D serve the genealogy
community very well. An anlysis of the messages posted there give a clear
indication of the volume of Australian messages, and their origin. There
would not be too many Australians who want to receive six or seven digests
when they can now get all they want in one!

I would be interested to know why you are creating the lists?

> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 20:37:47 -0700
> From: Randall Haight <hai...@listserv.northwest.com>

> Subject: New discussion lists for Australia

> australia by regions
>
> western-australia
> northern-territory
> south-australia
> queensland
> new-south-wales
> victoria
> tasmania
> western-australia-digest
> northern-territory-digest
> south-australia-digest
> queensland-digest
> new-south-wales-digest
> victoria-digest
> tasmania-digest

I was also surprised to see that you were suggesting even more lists for
New Zealand!!

A little research goes a long way.

Regards,

John
John A.L. Blue, PO Box 542 Mawson ACT 2607

Fax: 02 6291 1119
email: jb...@interact.net.au

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X-Message: #3
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 16:28:47 -0700
From: ocon...@iaccess.com.au (Greg & Anne O'Connell)
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.1997092...@iaccess.com.au>
Subject: Macorna
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Hello,

Would anybody be able to tell me anything about the town of Macorna
(Victoria)?

With thanks, Anne O'Connell.

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X-Message: #4
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 18:34:02 -0700
From: slon...@taunet.net.au (Sue O'Neill)
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.1997092...@taunet.net.au>
Subject: Button Indexes
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Hi All

I have just received my "care package" from Marion Button. I have purchased
the Button Indexes and I am just freaking out over the mammoth job that
Marion has done. The CDrom contains Marions personal index which has not
been for sale before. A lot of people researching in Victoria Australia may
have come across parts of Marions work before and even purchased her
indexes. These are also duplicated on the disc, but instead of having to go
through the alpha index fiche, these are in a dbf form and can be searched
by ANY field.

The button index is an index of all Marions other indexes, so you can
search that one and then know which actual index to look at to find the
full reference.

I just had to let everyone know about this great research tool, I have no
financial interest in Marion's work, but I don't intend to let her hide her
brilliance under a bush.

Seeya
Sue O'Neill
Nguiu, Bathurst Island, NT 0822

Rowland Family Reunion, Easter, 1998, Ohau, New Zealand.
Descendants of David Rowland, born Pirton, WOR, 1843

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X-Message: #5
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 97 13:24:30 +1200
From: da...@pandoras.gen.nz (Dawn Scotting)
Message-ID: <JBsDDe...@pandoras.gen.nz>
Subject: D'ALESSIO name

If there is anyone out there researching the name of D'ALESSIO in either
New Zealand or the UK please contact me, I found a book in a second hand
shop that I think would be of interest to you.

.-.
{\('v')/}
_____`( )'______________________________________
| ^" "^ |
| Cheers....Dawn - da...@pandoras.gen.nz |
| http://www.kcbbs.gen.nz/users/pandora/index.html |
|__________________________________________________|

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X-Message: #6
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 19:24:41 -0700
From: te...@clear.net.nz (termon)
Message-ID: <1997092102...@fep2-orange.clear.net.nz>
Subject: DRAFFINS in Australia

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My G-grandfather was Samuel DRAFFIN
married to Bridget DOWLING
came to NZ.

His brother went to Australia. I don't know what his name was,
but there was a Eugene DRAFFIN, and I think that was his son.

Their mother was Mary TAIT, married name Mary DRAFFIN, daughter of Samuel
TAITE. She was born in Girvan, Scotland, c.1811, died in Victoria in 1860.

Anyone related to these?

Can anyone tell me where I write for death certificates in
Victoria, the cost, and what information there is on them in
1860?

Are births, deaths, marriages in Australia online? and where?

Terry.

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X-Message: #7
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 19:45:54 -0700
From: gh...@deakin.edu.au (Geoff Humble)
Message-ID: <v03007803b04a39e4bca7@[128.184.110.105]>
Subject: Re: DRAFFINS in Australia
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

G'day Terry,

>Can anyone tell me where I write for death certificates in
>Victoria, the cost, and what information there is on them in
>1860?

Write to:
The Registrar,
Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages,
PO Box 4332,
Melbourne 3001,
Victoria,
Australia.

>Are births, deaths, marriages in Australia online? and where?

No, they aren't, but a good page for you to visit is
http://www.cohsoft.com.au/afhc/vic.html, Genealogy Addresses for the State
of Victoria. There you will find costs, etc.

Cheers

Geoff

__________________

Email Address: gh...@deakin.edu.au

"Seek 'til you find, and you'll not lose your labour"
(Old English Proverb)

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X-Message: #8
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 23:17:52 -0700
From: ju...@edison.dialix.com.au (Judie)
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.1997092...@edison.dialix.com.au>
Subject: "Master Mariner"
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I have a Great Uncle who's occupation was stated by his wife as a 'Master
Mariner'. Would this be a ship's Captain, does anyone know? Would anyone
know how I could find out which ship's he sailed on? He was born in 1904
in England, married in 1930 in England and then came to Australia. I don't
know if he was working on ships before he came to Australia or not. He
died some time between 1945 and 1955. I am waiting for a death
certificate, hopefully he died in Australia and not on his travels. Any
help much appreciated.

Judie

http://www.geocities.com/~judie_moore

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X-Message: #9
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 20 Sep 1997 23:50:43 -0700
From: ji...@ecn.net.au (Jill Ritchie)
Message-ID: <1997092106...@bl-4.rootsweb.com>
Subject: Emily Day

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HELP!
Would like help tracing EMILY DAY, her daughter EVELYN BEATRICE DAY b.2 Oct
1884, Redgrave, Hartismere,Suffolk. Married GEORGE HENRY PORTER 27 Jul
1905, Greenwich. Migrated Aust Nov 1915.
Any help greatly appreciated.

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X-Message: #10
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 00:15:52 -0700
From: sp...@islandnet.com (Donna Cino)
Message-ID: <3424C9...@islandnet.com>
Subject: Follows name change to Lansall

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My grandfather was born in the Melbourne area. He left and went to
England and joined the Royal Artillary. While in service he change his
name from Frederick Follows to Edric Lansall. I have only seen the
Lansall name metioned on the Vic Gold book, and only in Australia. I'm
trying, of course, to figure out why he changed to this name and wonder
if anyone has information on the Lansall family. There seemed to be a
few of them during the gold rush period. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.Aside from not saying why he did this, he did say that he
left Aust. on a ship to England as a cabin boy when he was 8. That would
be about 1888. Could anyone searching ship records about that time, who
comes across the name Frederick Follows please, please get in touch with
me. Thanks in advance for any help....Donna in Canada

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 00:55:25 -0700
From: k...@pleiades.demon.co.uk (kaz)
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Subject: Dernancourt
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Hi,
I have just joined this list and have got relatives currently living in =
Australia who I know nothing about. They are descendants down another =
line of my family tree:
I have a Lucy Ada Martin who was born on April 20th 1888 and died in =
1980 in Australia. She was born in Kent, England. Her husband was Ernest =
Tyler and their son was Jack (born in 1917) and he had two children, =
Russell and Judith Tyler. I would like to try and trace Russell and =
Judith and their associated family. I don't know where abouts in =
Australia they are though. If anybody can offer and useful suggestions I =
would appreciate it.
I have also got a Stewart Martin who was born on 21st January 1944 in =
Dernancourt and he married Janet Pickles who was born in 1945 in =
Dernancourt. I don't know which Australian state this is in; Dernancourt =
isn't on my atlas.=20
They had three children: Nicola (born 5/12/1972), Julianne (born =
18/6/1975) and Christopher (born 16/7/1982), all in Dernancourt.
Regards,
Karen

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I have =
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know=20
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in 1917) and he had two children, Russell and Judith Tyler. I would like =
to try=20
and trace Russell and Judith and their associated family. I don't know =
where=20
abouts in Australia they are though. If anybody can offer and useful =
suggestions=20
I would appreciate it.

I have also got a Stewart Martin who was =
born on 21st=20
January 1944 in Dernancourt and he married Janet Pickles who was born in =
1945 in=20
Dernancourt. I don't know which Australian state this is in; Dernancourt =
isn't=20
on my atlas.

They had three children: Nicola (born =
5/12/1972),=20
Julianne (born 18/6/1975) and Christopher (born 16/7/1982), all in=20
Dernancourt.

Regards,

Karen

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Date: 21 Sep 97 08:18:53 GMT
From: "B&M ELLIOTT" <bell...@pcug.org.au>
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Subject: Bruce

Would anyone have a death for Mary Jane Bruce and William Bruce in the
Berrima area
please.Mary was the daughter of Charles Hayes/Jane Wilson.
Thank you
Maree

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Date: 21 Sep 97 11:07:00
From: Carlen...@bbs.st.net.au (Carlene Smelt)
Message-ID: <350_970...@softtech.st.net.au>
Subject: Re: SOUTH AUSTRALIA CEMETERY

-=> Quoting bl...@wave.co.nz to All <=-

bl> From: Wendy Sveistrup <bl...@wave.co.nz>
bl> Subject: SOUTH AUSTRALIA CEMETERY
bl> Organization: Wave Internet Services

Hi Wendy,

bl> I am trying to find out where I can find records of burials at ST
bl> JUDES Cemetery, Brighton and NORTH BRIGHTON Cemetery in S.A. I am
bl> looking for my husbands ancestors who are buried there.
bl> Jane,Adelaide,John and another Jane HUXLEY. Any ideas where I can

I hold the above records,a Jane Huxley was buried at Brighton
St,Judes 29.6.1863 9months residence at time Mitcham, and Adelaide
buried same grave 8/9/1868 17 months residence Glenelg only two.
also researched Brighton, Cheltenham, Dudley Park, Hindmarsh, Mitcham,
Paynham and Cheltenham. If I can be of further help let me know.

Regards.

Carlene Smelt
Gold Coast.
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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 03:14:14 GMT
From: john.t...@ancest.com.au (John Tankard)
Message-ID: <8748...@ancest.com.au>
Subject: TINDRESSER

Ta> Does anyone know? I have an elderly person in Cornwall who's
Ta> occupation was listed as 'tindresser'. Presumably it was to do with
Ta> tin mining. Can anyone tell me just what a 'tindresser' was or did?

Hi Betty
Tin is recovered from the mined ore by smelting in a furnace. The ore as mined
contains a proportion of waste rock and deleterious metal minerals, and tin
dressing is the process of removing as much of this waste material before
smelting so that heat is not wasted melting the rock, or to prevent the
undesirable metals being melted with the tin. If the mined ore is coarse ie
fist sized lumps and larger and the tin mineral in these lumps say about
walnut size, the dressing process may have only consisted of breaking the
lumps with a hammer and picking out the tin minerals by hand. If the tin
minerals were too fine to be separated by hand, the ore might be ground to
sand size, and various processes used to prepare a concentrate of the tin
mineral. This concentrate could be further dressed or "purified" by various
very tedious methods, which are often still used today, especially in small
mines or when mining tin occuring in alluvial deposits. Both the above
applications would have been used in the Cornish tin mines.
Hope this helps
Regards John
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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 21:17:54 +0930
From: Sam van der wijngaart <samva...@picknowl.com.au>
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Subject: Arrival in Fremantle c 1905

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What records are available for arrivals in Fremantle, and how are they
indexed? My GGFather arr. Freo somewhere between 1903 and 1917, having
emigrated from Wales. That is not to say they dept. wales, about all I
am certain of is the port and their names, Harry & Lucy Tate-Jones and 2
sons, Walter Bryan and Ernest. Any suggestions?

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 97 21:44:16
From: peter...@bbs.st.net.au (Peter Dunn)
Message-ID: <389_970...@softtech.st.net.au>
Subject: Online DPS Chat Room

Gidday ALL,

Make sure you visit the Brisbane DPS Online Chat Room at the following
address:-

http://www.st.net.au/~dps/dpschat.htm

To improve your chances of having an online chat with a fellow
genealogist, visit the DPS Chat Room at:-

- 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time (Australia) on any day of the week or

- 3 p.m. on Saturday or Sunday or any Public Holiday.

Regards Peter
peter...@bbs.st.net.au
http://www.st.net.au/~dunn/research.htm

... Jeremiah DUNN, at Bishops Nympton, Devon in the 1881 Census

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 15:17:46 GMT
From: "Mel" <M...@plateau-of-leng.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <01bcc6a1$02984860$3860...@plateau-of-leng.demon.co.uk>
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Looking for descendents of Nathaniel John Isaacs (b.Sydney 1847, d.
Wellington 1888) - had 6 children, two were Captain David Nathan
Isaacs (b.1882 Wellington, d. 1978 Eastbourne), Miss Daisy Isaacs (b.
1886 d. 1986 Eastbourne). Liz

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 09:18:06 -0700
From: croy...@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA (L.D. Croyden)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.97091...@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA>
Subject: CROSS family in New Zealand
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Hi from Canada,

Would appreciate any information about a family who emigrated to New
Zealand, probably in the first half to middle of the 1800's. The husband
was Samuel CROSS. His wife, b. 03 April 1801, was Sarah CROYDEN. Sarah
supposedly died in New Zealand, either 03 January 1873 or 1875.

I do not know if they had children, and if they did, whether they were
born in New Zealand or England.

Any information about this family would be appreciated. I do have
information to share about the CROYDEN families in England and Australia.

Thank you in advance.

Louise Croyden
Burlington, Ontario, Canada

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 09:22:12 -0700
From: croy...@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA (L.D. Croyden)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970921...@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA>
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Hello again from Canada,

Would anyone have any information about a Minister, who emigrated from
England to New Zealand about December, 1873. His Christian name was
Edward and the surname was probably CROYDEN. In a letter dated 8 July
1874, from my husband's g-grandaunt, Mary Ann CROYDEN to my husband's
g-grandfather, James CROYDEN, in Australia, she said:

"Cousin Edward and his wife and children are gone out to New Zealand. He
has an appointment as Clergyman over two churches. They went about
Christmas last so suppose are there by this time".

Since she only mentioned his first name, there is the possibility that he
was still a cousin but with a different surname. He was probably Church
of England. However, I am not sure about that either.

If there is anyone still in New Zealand or Australia who are descendants
of this family or anyone who could locate some information about them, I
would appreciate hearing from you. I have information I can share about
the CROYDEN families in Australia and England.

Thanking you in advance.

Louise Croyden
Burlington, Ontario, Canada

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X-Message: #22
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 11:15:52 -0700
From: croy...@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA (L.D. Croyden)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.97092...@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA>
Subject: LONG/ORD, Tasmania -- ALLEN, Australia
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Hi again,

I am really on a roll today but I really should be reading for my history
course at the university!! Oh well, this is part of history too.

I was wondering if anyone on the list have information about Elizabeth LONG,
m. to Henry ORD, Hobart, Tasmania, 21 February 1846? She is my husband's
g-grandmother. Her parents were George LONG and ? HICKEY. I was
told that her death reg at Saint Arnaud, 1882, indicates she was 62 years
of age. Could this have been a convict family sent from England, or in Tasmania
for other reasons? Any information about George and ? (HICKEY) LONG would
be appreciated, i.e., death reg's for George and wife, birth information
for Elizabeth in Tasmania, other siblings, reason they were in Tasmania,
etc.

Elizabeth and Henry ORD had at least three children: Walt (1856), Luisa
(1858), and John Powell (1862). Also interested in death reg. for Henry
ORD., before 1866, since Elizabeth was remarried that year to George
ALLEN, in the St. Arnaud area, Victoria, Australia.

This is one of those strange situations. According to our family lore,
George ALLEN was born, Inverness, Scotland and was educated at Edinburgh.
He was supposedly a schoolteacher around St. Arnaud, Victoria, Australia.
On my husband's grandmother, Eva ALLEN's, birth certificate George was
listed as 45 years of age, born in London, England, was a boundary rider
on the Swan Water North Station, Cope Cope, Victoria Australia. (I gather
that is not far from St. Arnaud). On Eva's marriage certificate her
father's occupation was farmer. Could he have been a schoolteacher in the
St. Arnaud area at some time? Since George was 45 at the time of birth
of his and Elizabeth (LONG / ORD) ALLEN'S first child, he may have had a
different life/occupation prior to that time. It's a stretch to think
that he changed from Scottish to English, though!! :-) There was also
talk that he was married twice. Although family stories may have mixed up
he and his wife.

I would appreciate any help/suggestions.

Thanks in advance.

Louise Croyden
Burlington, Ontario, Canada

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GENANZ-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 318

Today's Topics:
#1 Sth Eng MAIL LIST WESSEX-PLUS [rdr...@enterprise.net (R0MA DRAPE]
#2 1881 CENSUS -LYONS [zfr...@ozemail.com.au (r french)]
#3 SMH RSVP column 20 Sep 1997 [lin...@netspace.hinet.net.au (Lin]
#4 Hertfordshire Surnames List [hu...@xtra.co.nz (Hugh Winters)]
#5 Re: Dernancourt ["Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>]
#6 Re: Dernancourt ["Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>]
#7 Your family name... [Cees Maas <cees...@zeelandnet.nl>]
#8 Re: New discussion lists for Austr [vm...@trump.net.au (Rice Witzerman]
#9 AUS: WATERS [David_C...@tnt.com.au]
#10 Williams' and Bonnors', Bathurst. ["Boss" <kie...@goulburn.net.au>]
#11 Update - new Victorian BDM indexes [billin...@slim.agvic.gov.au (An]
#12 Re: AVOCA CEMETERY [Scott & Bronwyn Farber <farbers5@h]
#13 Re: GOSPEL CAR MISSION [jar...@pcug.org.au (Sahun and Jame]
#14 PORTER/WINEPRESS, Auckland, NZ ["Neville Price" <pri...@clear.net]
#15 NSW: WHITELAW,c1850 [David_C...@tnt.com.au]
#16 NSW: PEAD c 1850 [David_C...@tnt.com.au]
#17 Attachments [Tall_...@bigpond.com (Carolyn Ha]
#18 Re: New discussion lists for Austr [gro...@ozemail.com.au (Pat Rossi)]
#19 HARDY-ROBINSON [mi...@nor.com.au (mike richards)]
#20 MADDISON [jat...@alphalink.com.au (Joan Smi]
#21 John Whittington Williams - Molong ["Boss" <kie...@goulburn.net.au>]
#22 Appropriate Reg'n MAIL LIST(S) [rdr...@enterprise.net (R0MA DRAPE]
#23 Margaret O'Brien mid 1800, Limeric ["motley" <mol...@es.co.nz>]
#24 Re: Button Indexes [lin...@netspace.hinet.net.au (Lin]
#25 BDM's for Australia [and...@melbpc.org.au (Andrea Johns]
#26 Coroner's Inquest File Index [rdu...@ozemail.com.au (Rob Durie)]
#27 Jericho - where is it? [rdu...@ozemail.com.au (Rob Durie)]
#28 Re: Jericho - where is it? [gro...@ozemail.com.au (Pat Rossi)]

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Date: 21 Sep 1997 12:43:16 -0700
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Subject: Sth Eng MAIL LIST WESSEX-PLUS

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WESSEX-PLUS. A long established mailing list for anyone who has an
interest in genealogy or general and local history related to & incorporating
the counties of Berkshire, Bristol, Devon, Dorset, Gloucestershire,
Isle of Wight, Hampshire, Oxfordshire, Somerset, and Wiltshire, England.

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X-Message: #2
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 14:37:30 -0700
From: zfr...@ozemail.com.au (r french)
Message-ID: <342682...@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: 1881 CENSUS -LYONS

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Could comeone please look at the 1881 census and see if there is a
Nathan & Annie LYONS at 269 Camberwell Rd Camberwell Surrey
Many Thanks
R French

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 15:19:21 -0700
From: lin...@netspace.hinet.net.au (Lindsay Swadling)
Message-ID: <1997092122...@netspace.hinet.net.au>
Subject: SMH RSVP column 20 Sep 1997

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Sydney Morning Herald RSVP column 20 Sep 1997

St Ursula's College: Kingsgrove, 40th anniversary school reunion and
BYO picnic at school. For all ex students and teachers, Oct 19.
Contact convent 02 9502 1826.

RUTLEDGE: James (b.1817 Irl) and Lucy Ann FIELD (b.1826 Castlereagh,
NSW). Seeking info and descendants for reunion, Castlereagh, Oct 5.
Contact Graham Wilcox, 8/4 Walton Cres, Abbotsford 2046.

SMITH: John (1787-1853) m. Frances JACKSON (1792-1881). Left UK 1816,
settled Launceston. Seeking descendants for reunion in Tasmania,
1998.
Contact Jo Manger, 17 Stanhope Grove, Camberwell, Vic, 3124.

Sydney Morning Herald RSVP
GPO Box 3771, Sydney 2001
fax 02 9282 3492
let...@smh.fairfax.com.au

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X-Message: #4
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 15:21:44 -0700
From: hu...@xtra.co.nz (Hugh Winters)
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Subject: Hertfordshire Surnames List

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Hertfordshire Surname List

I am calling for interested parties to put forward their names they are researching in
Hertfordshire.

I need

Names researched
Time frame e.g 1800-1878
Town
Email Address
Postal Address

Email me at

hu...@xtra.co.nz

This county is important to me in the search for my fathers
ancestors, so I thought I would start here.

New update for list is at:

http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/genuki/SurnamesList/HRT.html

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X-Message: #5
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 22:32:32 GMT
From: "Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc6df$27aa2540$4f943ecb@default>
Subject: Re: Dernancourt

Dernancourt is in South Australia, a suburb of Adelaide. It is NE of the
city of Adelaide.

Regards
Kathryn

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X-Message: #6
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 22:54:14 GMT
From: "Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc6e2$2f75f760$4f943ecb@default>
Subject: Re: Dernancourt

Dernancourt is a suburb of Adelaide, in South Australia.

I looked up the whitepages telephone directory and found there were many
listings for
S Martin, however there was only one listing for S & J Martin
28 Cowan Drive
Pooraka S.A. 5095 (Pooraka is not far from Dernancourt)

phone (08) 8262 1932

Tyler is more difficult because you don't know which state they are living
in.
There are 6 states and one territory in Australia. BDM records are kept by
individual states and would have to be searched separately as would the
telephone directories.
Is Steve Martin related to Lucy Ada Martin ? If so, you could assume that
the Tylers were also from South Australia.
The Australian whitepages telephone directory can be found at
http://www.whitepages.com.au

Best wishes,
Kathryn

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X-Message: #7
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 15:55:44 -0700
From: Cees Maas <cees...@zeelandnet.nl>
Message-ID: <6048lg$5...@bl-5.rootsweb.com>
Subject: Your family name...

may be found in The Zeeland Site
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/ceesmaas/

Cees Maas

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X-Message: #8
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 16:34:00 -0700
From: vm...@trump.net.au (Rice Witzerman Associates)
Message-ID: <3424DF...@trump.net.au>

Subject: Re: New discussion lists for Australia

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> From: Randall Haight <hai...@listserv.northwest.com>
> To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
>
> Hi

> I have setup lists for all the counties in Australia. They are for..(snip)

Confucius says: "Before setting up mailing list, acquire basic knowledge of
subject".

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X-Message: #9
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 18:05:27 -0700
From: David_C...@tnt.com.au
Message-ID: <7FE4F856@MHS>
Subject: AUS: WATERS
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Hi All,

I had success on the weekend with the NSW IGI on CD ROM and found:

Charles WATERS m 1866 Mary ROBINSON at Wellingrove NSW (near Glenn Innes)

They had:
Elizabeth 1867 Wee Waa
Alice 1870 Walgett
Charles 1871 Walgett
Matilda 1873 Walgett
Emily 1875 Walgett
Frederick 1878 Walgett
Ethel 1881 Walgett
John 1883 Walgett
Walter 1885 Walgett

Matilda m 1893 Arthur Adams of the USA in Collarenerbri, NSW

Does anyone know these WATERS and where Charles was born (or Mary)?

Thanks
David Christian, Thirroul, NSW
David_C...@tnt.com.au

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X-Message: #10
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 02:41:38 GMT
From: "Boss" <kie...@goulburn.net.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc701$1b0d9160$650b1ccb@default>
Subject: Williams' and Bonnors', Bathurst. NSW

Is anyone out there researching an Edward Williams, who was the first baker
at Kelso, near Bathurst and
also a family by the name of Bonnor who were at Bathurst in the 1800's.
Let me know. Any help would be much appreciated.

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X-Message: #11
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 19:47:05 -0700
From: billin...@slim.agvic.gov.au (Andrew Billinghurst)
Message-ID: <376BF...@slim.agvic.gov.au>
Subject: Update - new Victorian BDM indexes

Hi all,

According to an absolutely excellent source here is the latest news
on the imminent release of the next installment of Victorian BDM
indexes that have been compiled by the Vic Registry of BDMs and the
committed volunteers of the Genealogical Society of Victoria and the
Australian Institute of Genealogists.

Rehash of situation
BDMs for 1889-1920 are being release in three sets
* Federation
* Edwardian
* WWI
or names to that affect (brain failure on my part). Anyway...

The three sets of MICROFICHE have been produced and are sitting at
the Registry waiting to go into their little envelopes. No idea of
price or who will distribute but I will get back as soon as I know.

The three sets of CD-ROMs have a little technical problem that is
being sorted out at the moment. The contract has not gone to
INFORMIT, so we will be seeing different software in operation.
There will NOT be a single consolidated CD until after the contract
for the VPI has expired.

The good news for those Victorian members of the Victorian societies
is seems that the Registry is going to do a special single CD for the
these societies for the whole period 1889 onwards as a thanks for
doing the project. Yippee! [Library volunteers watch out for the
stampede I would think.]

More info as it comes to hand.

Regards Andrew
--
Andrew Billinghurst mailto:billin...@slim.agvic.gov.au
mailto:billin...@usa.net
mailto:GENANZ-L...@rootsweb.com
Listowner, GENANZ-L & GENANZ-D at RootsWeb / soc.genealogy.australia+nz
GENANZ at RootsWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~billingh/
I can spell, I just cannot tipe. :-)

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X-Message: #12
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 10:53:11 +0800

From: Scott & Bronwyn Farber <farb...@hkstar.com>

Message-ID: <3425DD...@hkstar.com>
Subject: Re: AVOCA CEMETERY

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Derek & Di Reid wrote:

>
> Lindsay Swadling wrote:
> >
> > On 18 Sep 97, Derek & Di Reid wrote:
> >
> > > Could some kind soul with access to the Avoca Cemetery records see if an
> > > Alfred AH TONG or could have been Alfred TONG is buried there in 1864. He
> > > would have only been about 4 or 5 years old
>

Di, If you are looking for Ah Tong's (and I don't know how common that
name was) but there is an article in The Genealogist, the Sept 1997
publication of the Aust Institute of Gen. Studies, that discusses
divorce records in the PRO and cites the case of the Ah Tong's. If you
are interested, contact me.

Bronwyn
farb...@hkstar.com

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X-Message: #13
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 20:45:21 -0700
From: jar...@pcug.org.au (Sahun and James DASH)
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.1997092...@pcug.org.au>
Subject: Re: GOSPEL CAR MISSION
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>From: "Andrew Billinghurst" <billin...@slim.agvic.gov.au>
>Organization: NRE
>To: Sahun and James DASH <jar...@pcug.org.au>
>Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:30:52 +11:00
>Subject: Re: GOSPEL CAR MISSION
>Reply-to: billin...@slim.agvic.gov.au
>Priority: normal
>X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54)
>
>[This is a semiautomated reply]
>
>Hi
>
>Mail for distribution by the mailing list is meant to be sent
>to the address
>GENA...@rootsweb.com
>
>The ...-request... address that you used for administrative matters
>such as subscription and contacting me, the listowner.
>
>I suggest that you send the mail again this time to the list address.
>
>Regards Andrew
>
>On 20 Sep 97 at 1:16, Sahun and James DASH <jar...@pcug.org.au>
>wrote:
>
>> in the late 19th century, in the south-west of new south wales, many
>> marriages, etc were conducted by the above church, the registers of which
>> have appeared on lists of microfilmed archives and in the official bdm
>> cd-roms, some including [so-far] unlinked distant relatives
>>
>> does anyone know anthing about it? is the *car* an abbreviation? [it's
>> never followed by a full-stop, and it always appears exactly the same way
>>
>> regards ...
>> ... *canberra james*
>>
>>
>--
>Andrew Billinghurst mailto:billin...@slim.agvic.gov.au
> mailto:billin...@usa.net
> mailto:GENANZ-L...@rootsweb.com
>Listowner, GENANZ-L & GENANZ-D at RootsWeb / soc.genealogy.australia+nz
>GENANZ at RootsWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~billingh/
>I can spell, I just cannot tipe. :-)
>
>
i can reed, but i don't always absorb wot i need

regards ...
... *canberra james*

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X-Message: #14
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 04:31:03 GMT
From: "Neville Price" <pri...@clear.net.nz>
Message-ID: <01bcc6ed$d3fc3000$LocalHost@default>
Subject: PORTER/WINEPRESS, Auckland, NZ

I am seeking information on Henry PORTER and Catherine WINEPRESS,
who married 17 Sept 1862, St Patrick's Cathedral, Auckland.

For Catherine (nee GALLERY), aged 21, this was her second marriage.
Did she have three children - Matthew, Nellie, and Jane - from her first
marriage on 10 Jan 1855 to Matthew WINEPRESS, policeman, at the
Roman Cathoplic Church, Onehunga, Auckland.

I have found marriages for Nellie and Jane WINEPRESS in Victoria,
Australia, 1883-1884 - but names of their parents are not recorded on
the microfiche.

Any information or suggestions please to
Neville Price <pri...@clear.net.nz>

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X-Message: #15
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 21:56:26 -0700
From: David_C...@tnt.com.au
Message-ID: <FCB34E25@MHS>
Subject: NSW: WHITELAW,c1850
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Hi all,

I have Robert H WHITELAW & Elizabeth having children:
John J b 1856 Maitland d 1884 Wallsend
Jane b 1858 Maitland
Margaret b 1860 Maitland
Andrew J b 1862 Patricks Plains
Elizabeth b 1864 Maitland m 1883 James Pead
William b 1866 Newcastle
James H b 1869 Newcastle d 1870 Newcastle
Arthur R b 1872 Newcastle

Is anybody researching these WHITELAWs ?
I can't find a marriage record in Aust for Robert & Elizabeth, I'll try
the IGI.

Thanks
David Christian, Thirroul, NSW
David_C...@tnt.com.au

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X-Message: #16
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 22:03:09 -0700
From: David_C...@tnt.com.au
Message-ID: <0CC2C66D@MHS>
Subject: NSW: PEAD c 1850
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Hi all,

I have Alexander PEAD & Emma with children:

Frederick b 1849 Maitland m 1877 Emily ELLIOT @ Macleay River
James b 1853 Maitland
Eliza A b 1856 Maitland
Henry b 1858 Manning River
Elizabeth b 1860 Wingham d 1862
William J b 1862 Manning River
Alfred b 1865 Pt Macquarie
Edward b 1872 Pt Macquarie

Is anyone Researching these PEADs and know of Alexander & Emma?
I still need a cert to prove my connection to Frederick.

Thanks
David Christian, Thirroul, NSW
David_C...@tnt.com.au

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X-Message: #17
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 22:29:07 -0700
From: Tall_...@bigpond.com (Carolyn Harris)
Message-ID: <0528571...@onaustralia.com.au>
Subject: Attachments

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Please don't put attachments on to mail to this newsgroup. If you want to
send something to someone, send it direct to them. This morning I had a
lot of trouble downloading my email and it kept on cutting out on me. When
ringing Teltra to find out what was wrong it appeared to be an attachment
file to this group that was corrupt and causing the problem.

I had them delete it without reading it.

:-)

Carolyn Harris - Australia
Tall Trees Family History
Tall_...@Bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/Tall_Trees/

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X-Message: #18
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 22:31:30 -0700
From: gro...@ozemail.com.au (Pat Rossi)
Message-ID: <1997092205...@ozemail.com.au>

Subject: Re: New discussion lists for Australia
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>> From: Randall Haight <hai...@listserv.northwest.com>
>> To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
>>
>> Hi

>> I have setup lists for all the counties in Australia. They are for..(snip)
>
>Confucius says: "Before setting up mailing list, acquire basic knowledge of
>subject".

Confucius was velly wise person - regrettably, some other persons not so
velly wise!!!

PAT ROSSI.
Melbourne, Australia.

Using her sons internet account <gro...@ozemail.com.au>, and LOVING IT!!!

Listowner - ARIA - Australasians Researching their Italian (and
Swiss/Italian) Ancestry

Listowner - SUFFOLK County Mailing List

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X-Message: #19
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 21 Sep 1997 22:56:11 -0700
From: mi...@nor.com.au (mike richards)
Message-ID: <1997092205...@nornet.nor.com.au>
Subject: HARDY-ROBINSON
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Could someone do a marriage lookup for me please, NSW abt 1889 John Hardy &
Jessie ROBINSON the place could have been Balmain.
Thanks in advance.
Mike R.

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X-Message: #20
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 00:33:16 -0700
From: jat...@alphalink.com.au (Joan Smith)
Message-ID: <342612...@alphalink.com.au>
Subject: MADDISON

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I am looking for people who are researching the name of
MADDISON anywhere, to be put into a One Name Research Directory.

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X-Message: #21
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 07:42:28 GMT
From: "Boss" <kie...@goulburn.net.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc72b$209ccf40$6d0b1ccb@default>
Subject: John Whittington Williams - Molong NSW

Is anyone researching a man by the name of John Whittington Williams, who
lived at Molong, N.S.W.
and died in 1921?
Thanks,

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X-Message: #22
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 01:04:35 -0700
From: rdr...@enterprise.net (R0MA DRAPER)
Message-ID: <01BCC736...@ppp50.enterprise.net>
Subject: Appropriate Reg'n MAIL LIST(S)

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For those seeking Mailing List(s) appropriate to the Country/County your research interests apply to.

BOOKMARK:

< http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ >

SEE:

REGIONAL LISTS

eg AUS/NZ - Sth America, etc

AND

EUROPE: eg Counties for England, (Channel Island's), Ireland, Scotland, Wales, etc.

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X-Message: #23
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 08:17:41 GMT
From: "motley" <mol...@es.co.nz>
Message-ID: <01bcc730$76b71980$3b804dd1@default>
Subject: Margaret O'Brien mid 1800, Limerick, Ireland

I am seeking any information at all about Margaret O'Brien born in
Limerick, Ireland who emigrated to Australia and married John Lincoln on
February 11th, 1857 in Melbourne, Victoria. Margaret's parents were Daniel
O'Brien and Catherine Hennessey.

I would also like to find out anything about John Lincoln who may have had
a brother in Melbourne at the time of his marriage. John's father was
Thomas Lincoln, a bootmaker of Norfolk, England and his mother was Mary
Garrett.

mol...@es.co.nz

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X-Message: #24
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 04:32:44 -0700
From: lin...@netspace.hinet.net.au (Lindsay Swadling)
Message-ID: <1997092211...@netspace.hinet.net.au>
Subject: Re: Button Indexes

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On 20 Sep 97, Sue O'Neill wrote:

> I just had to let everyone know about this great research tool, I have no
> financial interest in Marion's work, but I don't intend to let her hide her
> brilliance under a bush.

Sue, perhaps you could tell us just what records have been indexed?

Lindsay Swadling lin...@hinet.net.au

member of the Berrima District Historical
and Family History Society in Mittagong, NSW
http://www.hinet.net.au/~linswad/bdhs.htm

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X-Message: #25
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 05:21:49 -0700
From: and...@melbpc.org.au (Andrea Johnson)
Message-ID: <34264A...@melbpc.org.au>
Subject: BDM's for Australia

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Subject: DRAFFINS in Australia

Date: 20 Sep 1997 19:24:41 -0700
From: te...@clear.net.nz (termon)

> Can anyone tell me where I write for death certificates in

> Victoria, the cost, and what information there is on them in
> 1860?
> Are births, deaths, marriages in Australia online? and where?

G'Day Terry,

For information on birth, death & marriage certificates for the State of
Victoria, Australia have a look at our Research Help in Victoria page at
:-
http://www.vicnet.net.au/~dpsoc/guide.htm

For details of what you are likely to find on certificates for the other
states in Australia, see Graham Jaunay's page at:-
http://www.users.on.net/proformat/bdm.html

The VicGold Genealogy Database is an on-line (searchable) database of
some of the births, deaths and marriages during the goldrush period in
Victoria, and can be found at :-
http://www.ke.com.au/cgi-bin/texhtml?form=VicGold

Regards from Andrea.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
,-._|\ Greetings from Diamond Creek, Victoria, Australia
/ Oz \ Andrea Johnson <and...@melbpc.org.au>
\_,--.x/ My homepage at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7031/
v Webmistress of Melbourne DPS Home Page at
http://www.vicnet.net.au/~dpsoc/
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X-Message: #26
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 05:50:47 -0700
From: rdu...@ozemail.com.au (Rob Durie)
Message-ID: <v01540b01b04c17e2f83e@[210.8.5.29]>
Subject: Coroner's Inquest File Index
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Hello

I've been advised to search for a difficult missing person on the Coroner's
Inquest File Index.

If anyone has access to this index, would they be kind enough to look up
Ann JOYCE, died 27 July 1854 in Melbourne. (I can't find her death
registered at all, although it was reported in the Argus).

Thanks very much.

Robynne Durie

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X-Message: #27
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 05:50:52 -0700
From: rdu...@ozemail.com.au (Rob Durie)
Message-ID: <v01540b02b04c19965ebc@[210.8.5.29]>
Subject: Jericho - where is it?
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Hello

Does anyone know where Jericho is/was in Victoria? I have a hunch it may
have been around the Wood's Point area.

Thanks in advance.

Robynne Durie

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X-Message: #28
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 07:01:47 -0700
From: gro...@ozemail.com.au (Pat Rossi)
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Subject: Re: Jericho - where is it?

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Rob Durie wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> Does anyone know where Jericho is/was in Victoria? I have a hunch it may
> have been around the Wood's Point area.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
Hi Robynne,

You are right - Jerico was a mining township about half way between
Woods Point and Aberfeldy on the Marysville to Moe Road. For approximate
co-ordinates, draw a line due north of Mount Baw Baw and due west of
Healesville.

Regards,

PAT ROSSI,
Melbourne, Australia.

Using her son's internet account <gro...@ozemail.com.au, and LOVING it!!

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GENANZ-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 319

Today's Topics:
#1 How [jasnkerr <jasn...@kos.net>]
#2 Do you know Ray PURVIS? [Steven John Knowles <sknowles@vian]
#3 Re: Update - new Victorian BDM ind [der...@castlemaine.net.au (Derek ]
#4 Search for English Probate Post 18 [Jules <thr...@ucl.ac.uk>]
#5 Free Search for English Wills Post [Jules <thr...@ucl.ac.uk>]
#6 NICHOLSON Mailing List [10244...@compuserve.com (Bill Ni]
#7 The History of Forbes [jenny.m...@ancest.com.au (Jenn]
#8 Surname - Hyphus? [neil....@clara.net (Neil Forde)]
#9 Looking for Cock Luyting ["pfranken" <pfranken@worldonline.n]
#10 Date Sydney Harbour bridge built? [barb...@voyager.co.nz (King & Pat]
#11 Worker's Unions/records NSW 1921-1 [barb...@voyager.co.nz (King & Pat]
#12 Electoral roll searches. [barb...@voyager.co.nz (King & Pat]
#13 Re: Date Sydney Harbour bridge bui [pj...@interact.net.au (John Blue)]
#14 Re: Looking for Cock Luyting ["Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>]
#15 Re: Date Sydney Harbour bridge bui ["Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>]
#16 Re: Date Sydney Harbour bridge bui [sto...@crt.net.au (Barbara)]
#17 Re: Update - new Victorian BDM ind [billin...@slim.agvic.gov.au (An]
#18 Re: How to post messages to GENANZ [gro...@ozemail.com.au (Pat Rossi)]
#19 cemetary Records/gt western etc [neville riddock <riddockn@ozramp.n]
#20 Re: See Attachment [David J Grimshaw <grim...@ihug.co]
#21 Prentice [Shirley <Shi...@onaustralia.com.a]
#22 Colquhoun [pkmt...@midcoast.com.au (Kevin P]
#23 801 ton Barque 'Ann' ["P Pakes" <ppa...@ihug.co.nz>]
#24 Betteridge Henry (Harry) ["P Pakes" <ppa...@ihug.co.nz>]
#25 Re: 1881 CENSUS -LYONS [audrey green <aud...@southcom.com]
#26 Re: Looking for Cock Luyting ["Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>]
#27 Any PAYNES out there orig. from Sc [laur...@aol.com (Laurentia)]
#28 NZ; PUKEKOHE OPEN DAY 27TH Sept [verh...@ihug.co.nz (Verheyen)]
#29 AUST; Benevolent Asylum, Sydney [verh...@ihug.co.nz (Verheyen)]

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 10:29:43 -0400
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Subject: How

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Hi, Please help. How do I post to this newsgroup or where can I go to
find out?
Jim Kerr jasn...@kos.net

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X-Message: #2
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 00:47:30 +1000
From: Steven John Knowles <skno...@vianet.net.au>
Message-ID: <342684...@vianet.net.au>
Subject: Do you know Ray PURVIS?

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Not strictly genealogy realted....please forgive me.....but does anyone
know of a Ray PURVIS, previously employed by a company called Blackwood
Hodge (?) now known as Marubeni.

Ray apparently worked for Blackwood Hodge in Port Hedland, WA, before
working for them in Queensland.

An old friend of Ray's (Clive) is trying to get in touch.

Many thanks!

Steven Knowles

07 3842 1416
015 384630

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X-Message: #3
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 07:49:27 -0700

From: der...@castlemaine.net.au (Derek & Di Reid)

Message-ID: <342774...@castlemaine.net.au>
Subject: Re: Update - new Victorian BDM indexes

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Andrew Billinghurst wrote:
G'day all
The new Victorian CD's will be released in about 4 weeks going by McBeth
who are the distributors and they have a price list for the CD's and
fiche on their website. The first 2 CD's will be about $190 and the 3rd
is about $210
Di

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X-Message: #4
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:44:59 GMT
From: Jules <thr...@ucl.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3426A0...@ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: Search for English Probate Post 1858

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Hi all,

Later this week I shall be spending so time down at the Somerset House
Probate Registry and would be happy to search for post 1858 wills while
I'm down there.

I shall need

1. Name of the Testator
2. Approx Date of Death
3. Place of Abode

please e-mail your requests and I shall see what I can find.Here is no
fee for this search just a matter of my maximinising the use of my time
down there

best wishes

Jules
Thr...@ucl.ac.uk

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X-Message: #5
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:40:45 GMT
From: Jules <thr...@ucl.ac.uk>
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Subject: Free Search for English Wills Post 1858

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Hi all

I shall be able to carry out a few searches for ENGLISH WILLS post 1858
when I go down to the Probate registry on Wednesday and Friday of this
coming week.

I shall need

1. Name of the Testator
2. Approx Date of Death
3. Place of Abode

Please e-mail at Thr...@ucl.ac.uk and I shall try and fit in as many as
poss

NO FEE for a search

Jules
Thr...@ucl.ac.uk

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X-Message: #6
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 11:18:08 -0700
From: 10244...@compuserve.com (Bill Nicholson)
Message-ID: <199709221417...@compuserve.com>
Subject: NICHOLSON Mailing List

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Hi,

I recently set up a mailing list for Nic(h)olson genealogy
inquiries. To subscribe send just the word "subscribe" in
the body of the message to:

NICHOLSON...@rootsweb.com

If you decide to subscribe please be patient as there are
very few members as of yet. Please let me know if you have
any problems with the list. Thanks.

Bill Nicholson 10244...@compuserve.com
Natick, Mass. USA

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X-Message: #7
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:52:39 GMT
From: jenny.m...@ancest.com.au (Jenny Mccarthy)
Message-ID: <8749...@ancest.com.au>

Subject: The History of Forbes

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-=> Quoting Ke...@arawang.com.au to All <=-

Ke> Those of you with relatives/an interest in Forbes, NSW may like to
Ke> know that our company has edited The History of Forbes. It is presently
Ke> being typeset and is due to be launched by Bob Carr on 21 November
Ke> 1997. It will be a goldmine for genealogy buffs!
Ke> Kerry

Hi Kerry
Please tell me more. Where will the book be available. Am interested in
William Yeo.
Jenny

... ...Any ancestors you can dig up would be appreciated.

___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR]

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X-Message: #8
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 18:01:28 GMT
From: neil....@clara.net (Neil Forde)
Message-ID: <3426b1d...@news.clara.net>
Subject: Surname - Hyphus?

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I am trying to find the origin of my wife's surname - Hyphus.
Roots New Zealand and probably England.
I have not found anyone else with this name and have feeling it could
be derived from a misspelling - maybe Hughes.

Neil
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Neil Forde neil....@clara.net
Hampshire, UK neil....@x400.icl.co.uk
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X-Message: #9
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 21:15:32 GMT
From: "pfranken" <pfra...@worldonline.nl>
Message-ID: <01bcc79c$5a96f740$ed81f1c3@default>
Subject: Looking for Cock Luyting
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We are looking for Cock Luyting, a Dutch man emigrated from Holland to
Australia, almost 45 years ago. He used to be employed by the Australian
Railways in Sydney.
An old friend ( Gerrit van Delden ) wants to make contact with him.

Thanks for your help !

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X-Message: #10
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:23:49 GMT
From: barb...@voyager.co.nz (King & Patterson)
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Subject: Date Sydney Harbour bridge built?

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Any one know the date the Sydney Harbour bridge was
being planned and built?. Approximate year will do.
Thank you
Barb
barb...@voyager.co.nz

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:23:57 GMT
From: barb...@voyager.co.nz (King & Patterson)
Message-ID: <342fdaf7...@news.voyager.co.nz>
Subject: Worker's Unions/records NSW 1921-1939

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Suggestions please for where and what records
may be available for me to search when I visit Oz in October.
Worker's Unions/records NSW 1921-1939, in particular
employment related to drafting/mechanical engineering trades.
Thank you
Barb
barb...@voyager.co.nz

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:24:00 GMT
From: barb...@voyager.co.nz (King & Patterson)
Message-ID: <3430dbe1...@news.voyager.co.nz>
Subject: Electoral roll searches.

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Wanting earliest dates Electoral Rolls can be searched
for Victoria, NSW and SA please.
Thank you
Barb
barb...@voyager.co.nz

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 16:01:20 -0700
From: pj...@interact.net.au (John Blue)
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Hi Barb,
The Sydney Harbour Bridge, according to "The Daily Telegraph" of Sat
March 19, 1932 was opened on that day by the NSW State Premier Mr. J. T.
Lang. Ceremonies were to commence at 9:30 am and proceed throughout the
day, Pedestrians were to be allowed to cross the bridge after 1:30pm but
it was not to be opened to vehicular traffic until after midnight.

The bridge had been dreamed off and spoken of for the best part of a
century, however I do not have details of when the design and planning
began in earnest. The cost was stated as nearly ten million pounds
($20million).

I hope this helps.

John

> Any one know the date the Sydney Harbour bridge was
> being planned and built?. Approximate year will do.
> Thank you
> Barb
> barb...@voyager.co.nz

>
>
John A.L. Blue, PO Box 542 Mawson ACT 2607 Australia
Fax:+61 2 6291 1119
email: jb...@interact.net.au

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X-Message: #14
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 22:51:55 GMT
From: "Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>
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Subject: Re: Looking for Cock Luyting
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I checked the whitepages (telephone directory) for NSW VIC & QLD and there
were no listings for Luyting at all.

Perhaps the Railways can help with employee records. Does anyone else know
how to go about this?

Regards
Kathryn

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 23:11:17 GMT
From: "Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>
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Subject: Re: Date Sydney Harbour bridge built?
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Work was commenced on 28 April 1923 and the bridge was opened on 19 March
1932.

"In 1888 a Royal Commission was appointed to study eight different schemes,
all of which were rejected, but a high level bridge, preferably in one
span, was recommended. Between 1896 and 1903 there were more than 40
proposals.
In 1911, Acting Premier Holman announced that the Cabinet had decided on a
bridge for tramway, vehicular and pedestrian traffic, and a tunnel for
trains. Dr.J.J.C. Bradfield advised against the tunnel, and instead
recommended that a cantilever be built. The Public Works Committee adopted
this proposal in July 1913, but the enabling bill was not passed by both
Houses of Parliament until 1916. Work on the project finally began on 28
April 1923." Reader's Digest Book of Australian Facts.

Some facts:
Original Plan: by Dr J.J.C.Bradfield, modified by Sir Ralph Freeman.
Builder: Dorman Long and Company
Deaths during construction: 16
Paint required (3 coats): 164,000 litres

Regards
Kathryn

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X-Message: #16
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 17:01:30 -0700
From: sto...@crt.net.au (Barbara)
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.1997092...@crt.net.au>
Subject: Re: Date Sydney Harbour bridge built?

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If anyone is interested here are two web sites :

http://www.ozemail.com.au/~stewil/harbour.html on Sydney Harbour
Bridge..good picture

http://sydney.simplenet.com/harbourbr.htm Good site lots of info and pics

http://www.meetoz.com.au/syd_info.html past and present....some interesting
info..not necessarily on the bridge....
regards,

Barbara

At 04:01 PM 9/22/97 -0700, John Blue wrote:
>Hi Barb,
>The Sydney Harbour Bridge, according to "The Daily Telegraph" of Sat
>March 19, 1932 was opened on that day by the NSW State Premier Mr. J. T.
>Lang. Ceremonies were to commence at 9:30 am and proceed throughout the
>day, Pedestrians were to be allowed to cross the bridge after 1:30pm but
>it was not to be opened to vehicular traffic until after midnight.
>
>The bridge had been dreamed off and spoken of for the best part of a
>century, however I do not have details of when the design and planning
>began in earnest. The cost was stated as nearly ten million pounds
>($20million).

>
>I hope this helps.
>
>John
>

>> Any one know the date the Sydney Harbour bridge was
>> being planned and built?. Approximate year will do.
>> Thank you
>> Barb
>> barb...@voyager.co.nz

>>
>>
>John A.L. Blue, PO Box 542 Mawson ACT 2607 Australia
>Fax:+61 2 6291 1119
>email: jb...@interact.net.au
>
>

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X-Message: #17
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 18:42:53 -0700
From: billin...@slim.agvic.gov.au (Andrew Billinghurst)
Message-ID: <38DAB...@slim.agvic.gov.au>
Subject: Re: Update - new Victorian BDM indexes
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On 22 Sep 97 at 7:49, Derek & Di Reid <der...@castlemaine.net.au>
wrote:

> Andrew Billinghurst wrote:
> G'day all
> The new Victorian CD's will be released in about 4 weeks going by McBeth
> who are the distributors and they have a price list for the CD's and
> fiche on their website. The first 2 CD's will be about $190 and the 3rd
> is about $210
> Di
>

From what I am told, the indexes (fiche and CD) will only be
available for purchase directly from the Registry. If anyone hears
and know differently then I would love to hear from them.

Regards Andrew
--
Andrew Billinghurst

billin...@slim.agvic.gov.au

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X-Message: #18
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 1997 19:36:40 -0700
From: gro...@ozemail.com.au (Pat Rossi)
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Subject: Re: How to post messages to GENANZ Mailing List/soc.genealogy.australia+nz

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jasnkerr wrote:
>
> Hi, Please help. How do I post to this newsgroup or where can I go to
> find out?
> Jim Kerr jasn...@kos.net

Hi Jim,

To post messages to both the GENANZ Mailing List and
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PAT ROSSI,
Melbourne, Australia.

Using her son's internet account <gro...@ozemail.com.au, and LOVING it!!

Listowner - ARIA - Australasians Researching their Italian Ancestry.

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X-Message: #19
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 13:08:37 +1000
From: neville riddock <ridd...@ozramp.net.au>
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Subject: cemetary Records/gt western etc

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Information required where records for the following cemetaries are held

Gt Western, Victoria, Australia
Moysten " "
Hopetoun " "
Beulah " "

Many thanks

Neville

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 17:44:36 +1200

From: David J Grimshaw <grim...@ihug.co.nz>

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Bob Breen wrote:
>=20

> Subject: Does D Mode need Pegasus?
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> Up to a month or so ago I received D digests perfectly. Since then,
> with one exception, I cannot. The exception is the special digest
> GENBRIT-NMD (non mime digest).

>=20

> Firstly, no changes have been made at my end to cause this. Can
> someone explain how this disappointing event occurred?

>=20

> Secondly, installing Pegasus has been suggested. Can someone give
> the details of this programme, including the costs and the whys?

>=20
> Bob Breen.
> bo...@goulburn.net.au
Hi Bob,
first up pegasus is free and can be downloaded off the internet it is a
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X-Message: #21
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 97 06:53:27 GMT
From: Shirley <Shi...@onaustralia.com.au>
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Subject: Prentice
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I am a beginning with this and I do not really know what I am doing

I am researching Thomas Prentice arrive Minerva 1800. Descendants settled in
in the Maitland area.

Would like to hear from any one connected to this line.

Shirley Prentice

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X-Message: #22
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 05:00:25 GMT
From: pkmt...@midcoast.com.au (Kevin Pinel)
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Subject: Colquhoun
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I am trying to trace the line of Colquhouns who emigrated to Australia
during the 1850's. At this stage all I know is my ancestor came to
Melbourne and his bride to be followed some time later when some sort
of business was set up. Any responses would be greatly appreciated.

Kevin Pinel
pmta...@midcoast.com.au

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X-Message: #23
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 06:02:32 GMT
From: "P Pakes" <ppa...@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <01bcc7e6$514f7aa0$b5674cd1@pakes>
Subject: 801 ton Barque 'Ann'
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The barque 'Ann' left London Oct 1847 via Ireland leaving there Dec 1847
and arriving in NZ May 1848. Does any one have information where to find
the Log Books, Surgeons Reports or a drawing of the ship.

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Date: 23 Sep 1997 06:06:10 GMT
From: "P Pakes" <ppa...@ihug.co.nz>
Message-ID: <01bcc7e6$d368d680$b5674cd1@pakes>
Subject: Betteridge Henry (Harry)
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Born in Australia 1896 came to NZ when young, lived in Helensville, no
trace after that. Any one help please.

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 16:17:44 +1000
From: audrey green <aud...@southcom.com.au>
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r french wrote:
>
> Could comeone please look at the 1881 census and see if there is a
> Nathan & Annie LYONS at 269 Camberwell Rd Camberwell Surrey
> Many Thanks
> R French

273 Camberwell Road Camberwell Surrey 0671 38 10
LYONS Nathan head 21yrs Bookmaker? (E* b. Middlesex Shoreditch
Ann wife 21 Machinist (Re* b. iddlesex Hoxton

The Chester family live at 269.
There is also a
21 Fentiman Rd Lambeth Surrey 0602 38 10
LYONS Nathaniel J head 61 yrs Dealer in Wo* B. Camberwell Newmarket
Hannah wife 56 b. Middlesex London
Kate dau 27 b. " "
Laurence son 23 merchants clerk b. " "
Isaac son 21 traveller b. " "

Took note of the second family "just in case"

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X-Message: #26
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 06:29:44 GMT
From: "Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc7eb$01cebfe0$41943ecb@default>
Subject: Re: Looking for Cock Luyting
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I phoned the Railways Archives and they advised that due to reasons of
privacy protection they cannot release information on employees if that
person is still living.

Regards
Kathryn

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X-Message: #27
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 06:49:47 GMT
From: laur...@aol.com (Laurentia)
Message-ID: <19970923064...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Subject: Any PAYNES out there orig. from Scotland?
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Hi Everyone,

I am researching PAYNEs in Scotland, and have extracted all the PAYNEs
born, married, died in Scotland from 1855 to 1949. Contact me by E-mail to
exchange info.

Also, I invite all PAYNE researchers to join the worldwide PAYNE mailing
list. To subscribe:

************************************************************************
Subscribe to the PAYNE listserver: msg to PAYNE-L...@rootsweb.com
In body of msg type "subscribe" (without quotes, signature OFF)
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Thanks,
Camille in CA
Laur...@aol.com

Searching: Scotland/Ireland: AGNEW, ALL, BOWMAN, BRUCE, D'ALL, DAVIDSON,
DEVLIN, DUNBAR, DUNCAN, FAIRWEATHER, GOODWIN, GRAINGER, HERON,
LEADEN/LEDEN, LINDSAY, MCCONNEL/MCCONNELL, MCGREGOR, MCQUEEN, MILLAR,
OGILVIE, O'HARE, PAINE/PAYNE, PARKS, REID, SCOTT, WARD.
U.S.: O'HARE
Montana: DUNBAR, PAYNE
Ohio: MCGREGOR

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X-Message: #28
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Date: 23 Sep 1997 00:26:35 -0700
From: verh...@ihug.co.nz (Verheyen)
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Subject: NZ; PUKEKOHE OPEN DAY 27TH Sept

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Hello Everyone,

Just thought I would let everyone know that the Pukekohe Branch NZSG are
having an open day on Saturday 27th September, 10am - 4pm at the Pukekohe
High School Hall, Harris Street, Pukekohe.

A wide range of research resources will be available, including the material
from the Scottish Interest Group, Greater London Group, Dr Hill's Indexes,
plus cemetary transcriptions for the greater Franklin area and much more.

We would love to see you there.

Regards
Noeline

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X-Message: #29
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 02:31:37 -0700
From: verh...@ihug.co.nz (Verheyen)
Message-ID: <1997092309...@nickkean.ihug.co.nz>
Subject: AUST; Benevolent Asylum, Sydney

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Hi everyone,

Not so long ago I recall someone putting a request out for information
regarding the Benevolant Asylum in Sydney.

Could that someone, or anyone that knows anything about it or its records

please get in touch with me.

Also, c 1893, was it attached to a hospital?

Any help appreciated.

Regards
Noeline
verh...@ihug.co.nz

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GENANZ-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 320

Today's Topics:
#1 NSW; Divorce records c 1894 [verh...@ihug.co.nz (Verheyen)]
#2 EMPSON anywhere, anytime. [warw...@intercoast.com.au (Warwic]
#3 TYABB fisherman of Westernport Bay [tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au (Pa]
#4 VicGold [and...@melbpc.org.au (Andrea Johns]
#5 Re: cemetary Records/gt western et [gro...@ozemail.com.au (Pat Rossi)]
#6 RE: Kathryn, Cock Luyting ["pfranken" <pfranken@worldonline.n]
#7 Euphemia LIVINGSTONE, 1829 - Mark ["E M Muir" <emmuir.ochils@easynet.]
#8 Re: New discussion lists for Austr [Lloyd Mitchell <lloyd.mitchell@mcm]
#9 Re: Date Sydney Harbour bridge bui [Lloyd Mitchell <lloyd.mitchell@mcm]
#10 Re: Update - new Victorian BDM ind [sh...@fastlink.com.au (alan shaw)]
#11 Re: Australian Geographic Place N [ken...@pcug.org.au (Ken Meadows)]
#12 NATURALISATION PAPERS [tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au (Pa]
#13 Jackie BROWN TAS are you out there [Jem...@wn.com.au (John MELLORS)]
#14 My web page [hu...@xtra.co.nz (Hugh Winters)]
#15 Sth Australia [yvo...@st.net.au (Yvonne Bean)]
#16 Allan Veitch [bul...@one.net.au (Julie Pickerin]
#17 www address [pat...@ibm.net (Patsy McMillan)]
#18 Benevolent Asylum, Sydney [mcr...@aus.compassnet.com.au (Maur]
#19 REDKNAP/ Captain Henry HART/ TETLE [and...@melbpc.org.au (Andrea Johns]
#20 Ribbon Cutter [David_C...@tnt.com.au]
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Date: 23 Sep 1997 02:33:50 -0700

From: verh...@ihug.co.nz (Verheyen)
Message-ID: <1997092309...@nickkean.ihug.co.nz>

Subject: NSW; Divorce records c 1894
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Hello everyone,

Can someone please advise me of the procedure for checking out early divorces
(c1894) in the Sydney area.

Your help always appreciated.

Regards
Noeline
verh...@ihug.co.nz

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:16:43 GMT
From: warw...@intercoast.com.au (Warwick J.Empson)
Message-ID: <342796f3...@news.acay.com.au>
Subject: EMPSON anywhere, anytime.

I wish to correspond with anybody concerned with the name EMPSON.

Reply to:- warw...@intercoast.com.au

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 04:42:26 -0700
From: tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au (Patricia Jungwirth)
Message-ID: <1997092311...@aardvark.apana.org.au>
Subject: TYABB fisherman of Westernport Bay.
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Hello -

I'm after info about a fisherman Evan Jones - an American?? or American born

Welshman? I believe Evan was a fisherman at Westernport bay, Victoria. for a

while - there is no evidence? that he had any siblings around at the time
but I believe his wife - Mary BARRY may have had siblings-family in
Gippsland quite early.

JONES, Evan born 1831 NEW PROVIDENCE, USA
married 1859 MELB, VIC to
BARRY, Mary born 1841 CO CAVAN, IRELAND

Children (9)
JONES, Louisa born 1860 MT ELIZA, VIC
JONES, Evan Gilbert born 1864 FRANKSTON, VIC
JONES, Ann Durley born 1865 FRANKSTON, VIC died 1866
JONES, John Henry Newton born 1867 SCHNAPPER PT, Vic
JONES, James Melvin born 1869 TYABB, VIC
JONES, William born 1871 TYABB, VIC
JONES, Mary Ann Eliz born 1873 TYABB, VIC
JONES, Isabella Victoria born 1875 TYABB, VIC
JONES, Harriet Eliza born 1877 TYABB, VIC

regards

Robert.

take care,

Tricia

***tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au
**snail mail:

Patricia Jungwirth
PO Box 205
Ferny Creek
Victoria
Australia 3786

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 05:05:02 -0700
From: and...@melbpc.org.au (Andrea Johnson)
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Subject: VicGold

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The url for VicGold is case sensitive and should read

http://www.ke.com.au/cgi-bin/texhtml?form=VicGold
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,-._|\ Greetings from Diamond Creek, Victoria, Australia
/ Oz \ Andrea Johnson <and...@melbpc.org.au>
\_,--.x/ My homepage at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7031/
v Webmistress of Melbourne DPS Home Page at
http://www.vicnet.net.au/~dpsoc/
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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 06:21:09 -0700
From: gro...@ozemail.com.au (Pat Rossi)
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Neville Riddock <ridd...@ozramp.net.au> wrote:

> Information required where records for the following cemetaries are held
>
> Gt Western, Victoria, Australia
> Moysten " "
> Hopetoun " "
> Beulah " "

Hi Neville,

The names and addresses of the current Cemetery Trust Secretaries are:-

Mrs Yvonne Cochrane,
Secretary,
GREAT WESTERN CEMETERY TRUST,
Great Western. Vic. 3377

Mr. N Wilde,
Secretary,
MOYSTON CEMETERY TRUST,
Greenacres Road,
Moyston. Vic. 3377

Mrs S Mellington,
Secretary,
HOPETOUN CEMETERY TRUST,
123 Lascalles Street,
Hopetoun. Vic. 3396

Mr. J. Howie,
Secretary,
BEULAH CEMETERY TRUST,
42 Phillips Street,
Beulah. Vic. 3395.

BTW, the early Moyston Cemetery Register was lost in a bushfire c1920.
If I remember rightly, the Ararat Historical Society is attempting to
recreate as much of the register as they can by asking that anyone who
obtains a death registration containing details of a person who was
buried at Moyston to send them a copy of the registration.

I don't have the address on hand, but those of you who can contribute to
this effort could write to:-

Ararat Historical Society,
C/- Ararat Public Library,
ARARAT. Vic. 3377

BTW, what is the name of the person/family you are looking for at
Moyston - could it be POLA or ANDERSON by any faint chance.

Regards,

PAT ROSSI,
Melbourne, Australia.

Using her son's internet account <gro...@ozemail.com.au, and LOVING it!!

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 13:00:32 GMT
From: "pfranken" <pfra...@worldonline.nl>
Message-ID: <01bcc820$700dea00$3381f1c3@default>
Subject: RE: Kathryn, Cock Luyting

Thanks for your help. Maybe is the name not correctly. It could be Cok
Luiting
Maybe you want to check this out ?

Thanks
Wendy

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 14:21:30 GMT
From: "E M Muir" <emmuir...@easynet.co.uk>
Message-ID: <01bcc82c$27579a20$c3e728c3@emuir>
Subject: Euphemia LIVINGSTONE, 1829 - Mark WALKER 1990's

A few years ago, Mark Walker made contact with his MILLER relatives in
Scotland. Unfortunately, after the death of my father, WILLIAM MILLER,
many documents were lost.
I would be so pleased to resume the contact, and with that in mind, give
the following 'tree'.

Euphemia m. James Miller in 1829.
Granddaughter, also Euphemia m. Wm. Robinson, prior to, or after,
emigration to NZ.
Her daughter, Velma, m. Alf. Walker.
Son Mark m. Dyan Christieson.
Son Stefan, daughter Larissa. (If my memory serves me well!).

Any information would be gratefully received.

Regards from E.M.Muir. emmuir...@easynet.co.uk

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 12:50:28 +0100
From: Lloyd Mitchell <lloyd.m...@mcmail.com>
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Well, to be fair, perhaps he really *does* mean counties; Aus has a
county or shire layer of rural local administration above the town and
below the state levels, in much the same way that the US does.

But I doubt it!

Lloyd Mitchell

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 12:55:54 +0100
From: Lloyd Mitchell <lloyd.m...@mcmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Date Sydney Harbour bridge built?

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Mind you it looks like the official version of events has somewhat
revised what really happened at the opening: as the Premier was about to
cut the ribbon, a disgruntled ex-cavalry officer of somewhat right-wing
leanings rode up in full uniform and cut it with his sabre.
I'm not at home, so can't check the reference, and forget both his name
(something like Lefevre?) and the cause he was publicizing: perhaps
someone else can help?

Lloyd Mitchell

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:16:00 GMT
From: sh...@fastlink.com.au (alan shaw)
Message-ID: <60887j$t...@inferno.mpx.com.au>

Subject: Re: Update - new Victorian BDM indexes

Go to the McBeth WWW site to see the latest on these 3 CDs and the
price list.

Alan Shaw,Mariner Research.

billin...@slim.agvic.gov.au (Andrew Billinghurst) wrote:

>On 22 Sep 97 at 7:49, Derek & Di Reid <der...@castlemaine.net.au>
>wrote:

>> Andrew Billinghurst wrote:
>> G'day all
>> The new Victorian CD's will be released in about 4 weeks going by McBeth
>> who are the distributors and they have a price list for the CD's and
>> fiche on their website. The first 2 CD's will be about $190 and the 3rd
>> is about $210
>> Di
>>

>From what I am told, the indexes (fiche and CD) will only be
>available for purchase directly from the Registry. If anyone hears
>and know differently then I would love to hear from them.

>Regards Andrew
>--
>Andrew Billinghurst
>billin...@slim.agvic.gov.au

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X-Message: #11
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 20:05:21 GMT
From: ken...@pcug.org.au (Ken Meadows)
Message-ID: <34288f6...@newshost.pcug.org.au>
Subject: Re: Australian Geographic Place Names (was Re: Location of Bendoc?)

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On 15 Sep 1997 19:29:37 -0700, billin...@slim.agvic.gov.au (Andrew
Billinghurst) wrote:

>On 15 Sep 97 at 22:17, GENA...@rootsweb.com wrote:
>
>> My Atlas does not have Bendoc in it.
>> Can SKS tell me which State it is in.
>> Thank you
>> Barb
>> barb...@voyager.co.nz
>>
>
>Bendoc is
>Bendoc
> VIC
> Locality (bounded), Town, Village (LOCB)
> 37 08'54"S 148 52'50"E (-37.14829 , 148.88048)
> 8623
> SJ55-08
>Victorian highplains, near the border with NSW. I believe that is/was a logging
>town. If I'm wrong you'll hear about it. ;-)
>Map at this reference:
>http://www.erin.gov.au/cgi-bin/MAN210R.sh?152222+148.88048+-37.14829+8623+SJ55-
>08+Bendoc+(VIC)
>
>For any geographic place name query the place to look is
>Australian Geographic Place Names database
>http://www.erin.gov.au/database/MAN200R.html
>(it may be case sensitive)
>
>The sort of info contained is
> Place Name
> State/ Territory
> Place Type
> Latitude/ Longitude in Degrees Minutes Seconds and Decimal Degrees
> 1:100,000 Map Sheet Code
> 1:250,000 Map Sheet Code
>
>and best of all MAP.
>
>Regards Andrew
>PS. I have been meaning to add it to the GENANZ homepage. I will do it, maybe
>tomorrow.

Bendock was the station of BARBER and WILLIAMS , in the district of
Lachlan, NSW. (Wells, 1848)

Ken.

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 15:08:58 -0700
From: tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au (Patricia Jungwirth)
Message-ID: <1997092322...@aardvark.apana.org.au>
Subject: NATURALISATION PAPERS
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Good morning all,

Perhaps somebody would care to comment -

For an ancestor - I have the marriage certificate, a birth certificate for
one of his children and his death certficicate - what information am I
likely to find in any of his Naturalisation papers from the 1860's??

and -

in the 1860's - why did people become 'naturalised'? - did they become
British citizens? - were there economic advantages? - did it enable a person
to purchase property? did it provide voting rights? - I'm a little
suspicious of the ancestor's motives - I believe he may have always intended
to return to Europe - once he'd made his fortune or when problems at 'home'
had settled.

regards
Robert

p.s. I've had a dreadful time with email lately - is it the equinox? Or do I
need some hot milk bottles?
take care,

Tricia

***tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au
**snail mail:

Patricia Jungwirth
PO Box 205
Ferny Creek
Victoria
Australia 3786

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X-Message: #13
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 11:00:25 GMT
From: Jem...@wn.com.au (John MELLORS)
Message-ID: <6098f3$2j6$1...@loomi.telstra.net>
Subject: Jackie BROWN TAS are you out there

Have lost your email address. Can you give me a call

John M (jem...@wn.com.au)

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X-Message: #14
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 16:23:49 -0700
From: hu...@xtra.co.nz (Hugh Winters)
Message-ID: <01BCC8D8.68...@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: My web page

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Please note my page has had to move from http://www.home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/hugh

The new location is in the signature...

Hugh Winters http://skysurf.co.nz/~hugh/
31 Park Ave, Auckland, New Zealand, 1701 hu...@xtra.co.nz
Listowner Marriage Witness Indexes
Nottsgen-l
Warwick-l
Bedford-l
london-l

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X-Message: #15
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 17:33:14 -0700
From: yvo...@st.net.au (Yvonne Bean)
Message-ID: <621_970...@softtech.st.net.au>
Subject: Sth Australia

Hi All,

Have just found that my husband's great grandmother, Amelia CAVANAGH,
was the recognised illigitimate daughter of William YOUNGHUSBAND. She
was born c1855 - we have never been able to find her birth certificate.

Amelia was supposed to be the daughter of the a maid - but she was
educated, as her signature appears on her marriage certificate in a very
legitable & sure hand.

His name is on her marriage certificate & have just found that she is
also mentioned in his Will - which established the proof needed.

Apparently this William was quite well known in Sth Australia in
politics etc. Would be very grateful if anyone can find any information
on this gentleman for me.

Thanking you ........ Yvonne [Bonnie] B. E-Mail: yvo...@st.net.au

... HEYLEN*HAYLEN*HEYLAN - NSW, SA (AUST) & MDX (ENG)
--- Blue Wave/386 v2.30

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X-Message: #16
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 17:44:24 -0700
From: bul...@one.net.au (Julie Pickering)
Message-ID: <342860D3...@one.net.au>
Subject: Allan Veitch

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Hi,

I'm trying to trace the whereabouts of Allan Thomas VEITCH (whether dead
or alive is unknown). Allan was born 22nd October 1922 at Adelong, NSW
to George Thomas VEITCH - known as Tom, and Phoebe Veitch (nee HUGHES).
Allan was married to Wilga Wilson. He was the youngest of six children,
his eldest sister Leah is now the only living relative. Leah's last
contact with Allan was in Jan 1968 in Melbourne Vic.

If anyone should know the whereabouts of Allan, or if someone could
suggest how to trace him - either alive or dead, please email me.
Regards Julie Pickering
bul...@one.net.au

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X-Message: #17
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 19:50:27 GMT
From: pat...@ibm.net (Patsy McMillan)
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Subject: www address

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Have those of you with Irish interests tried the following

http://names.local.ie/cgi-bin/index.cgi

a great placeto leave your research names

cheers
Patsy
______________________________________________________________________________________
Patsy McMillan
51 Wainoni Road
Christchurch 8006
NEW ZEALAND
***********

e-mail ... pat...@ibm.net

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 18:52:02 -0700
From: mcr...@aus.compassnet.com.au (Maureen)
Message-ID: <34287134...@compassnet.com.au>
Subject: Benevolent Asylum, Sydney
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Noeline in New Zealand asked for information on the Benevolent Asylum.

The Benevolent Society is Australia's oldest charity. It began on 8th
May 1813 as the "New South Wales Society for Promoting Christian
Knowledge and Benevolence in these Territories and Neighbouring Islands"
its objective being to 'relieve the distressed and to enforce the sacred
duties of religion and virtue in New South Wales'. In the following five
years the Society provided outdoor relief, including food, clothing and
blankets and in a few instances, small advances for rent and lodging,
for some 400 persons.

During 1817 another organisation, "The Colonial Auxilliary Bible
Society" was formed. Two of its prominent members were also members of
the original Society. At the Annual Meeting of the Bible Society in
1818, with Governor Macquarie in the Chair, it was resolved that the two
Societies be amalgamated into an 'Association for the relief of the
poor, aged and distressed persons and others requiring such aid'. On 5th
June, 1818, the new Association was formed, taking the name of "The
Benevolent Society of New South Wales". Governor Macquarie agreed to be
the Society's Patron and Edward Smith Hall its first Honorary Secretary.

In 1821 the first Asylum building, with accommodation for 50 to 60
"Poor, Blind, Aged & Infirm Persons" was opened on the site which is now
Central Railway Station.

In 1866 the north wing was remodelled an used exclusively as the
Lying-in Hospital of NSW. In 1901 the site was resumed by the
Government. In 1904 the Benevolent Society opened the Royal Hospital for
Women in Paddington. These buildings have recently closed and a brand
new 'Royal' has been built in Randwick in the Prince of Wales Hospital
complex. (Yes, it's not part of POW, but autonomous).

The great news for genealogists is, that, most of the manuscripts books
relating to the daily running of the Asylum have survived. They are
housed in the Dixson Library. Most of these precious books have now been
copied onto microfilm which can be viewed in the Mitchell Library,
Sydney. They contain wonderful information. Many babies were born there
to unmarried mothers. When the mothers were admitted to the hospital
they were asked for much information, including the putative father's
name. If given, this is recorded. Abandoned babies were taken there. It
is recorded the names given to these babies, and why that name was
given.

Great stuff. To my knowledge no one has, as yet, indexed these books. It
will be a big task. The records start in 1823. The books are the General
Committee Minutes, Minutes of Board Meetings, Acting Committee Minutes,
House Committee Minutes, Inmates Journals, Index to Admissions &
Discharges and Admissions & Discharges.

Noeline mentioned c1893. The Inmates Journal for 1892-1894, the Index to
Admissions & Discharges 1891-1892 & 1894-1899 and the Admission &
Discharges 1891-1894 have all been microfilmed. There is also the House
Committee Minutes for 1891-1893 & 1893-1895 which had not been
microfilmed the last time I was in the Mitchell. You need a Reader's
Ticket to look at the original manuscript books.

The last time I wrote about the Benevolent Asylum records was in the
Cape Banks FHS journal about ten years ago. The records were all in the
Dixson then and the staff were overwhelmed by researchers.

May I invite you to visit the Cape Banks FHS web site -
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~hazelb/capebank/

Regards, Maureen

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 19:08:54 -0700
From: and...@melbpc.org.au (Andrea Johnson)
Message-ID: <342875...@melbpc.org.au>
Subject: REDKNAP/ Captain Henry HART/ TETLEY

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Anyone researching this family ? We could be cousins !

Elizabeth Jane REDKNAP. Married first, 30 Jul 1844, St
Lawrences, Sydney, NSW, Australia, Henry HART CAPTAIN (21),
died
28 Jan 1845, , Parramatta, NSW, AUS. Married second, 23 Apr
1847, St Philips, Sydney, NSW, AUS, William Matthew Leach
TETLEY
(284).

Children of Elizabeth Jane REDKNAP and Henry HART CAPTAIN:

1 Frederick William HART (17), born 28 Mar 1845, Sydney, ,
NSW, Australia, died 7 Jan 1900, Marlowe, , NSW,
Australia.
Married first, 29 Dec 1881, Braidwood, , NSW, Australia,
Lucy Elizabeth HUSH (18), born 26 Jul 1858, Braidwood,
daughter of John Thomas HUSH (19) and Hannah Anne WEBB
(20).
Married second, 26 Mar 1866, Braidwood, , NSW, Australia,
Julinda Thitchenor ANDERSON (173), born Mar 1849,
Julinder,
, , At sea, died 29 May 1873, Little River, Braidwood,
NSW,
AUS.

Elizabeth Jane REDKNAP and William Matthew Leach TETLEY had no
children.

Regards from Andrea.
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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 23 Sep 1997 19:22:26 -0700
From: David_C...@tnt.com.au
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Hi All,
The ribbon cutter at Bridge openning was De Groot of the New Guard - a
right wing organisation of ex-soldiers looking to protect Australia
from communism and the Northern hordes. They would be right at home
with Pauline Hanson.

I'm sure you could find something about them at a good library but if
you want a different perspective try reading D H Lawerence's Kangaroo.
This was originally thought to be an allegory for what was happening in
Europe but recent research by Joe Davis and others has shown that the
book should be read more as a diary.

Lawerence called the town he stayed in Mullumbimby as it was more
exotic than Thirroul. You can still catch the train to Thirroul, with
book in hand and follow the path he described to the cottage he rented
from my wife's family (the CALLCOTTs, a name which he used for one of
the main characters in the book).

Regards

David Christian, Thirroul, NSW
David_C...@tnt.com.au

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 04:50:06 GMT
From: "Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>
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Subject: Re: Date Sydney Harbour bridge built?

It was Captain Francis De Groot who slashed the ribbon.
He was a member of the extreme right-wing political group, The New Guard.
They were opposed to Lang's socialistic policies aimed at combating the
Depression.

Regards
Kathryn

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GENANZ-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 321

Today's Topics:
#1 Re: NSW; Divorce records c 1894 [rls...@ozemail.com.au (Robyn Smit]
#2 ATTACHMENT NIGHTMARE [nbur...@powerup.com.au (nburgess)]
#3 CAREY, Bristol area late 1800's ["jim carey" <+jca...@pginet.com.au]
#4 Help in Tasmania search please [sp...@islandnet.com (Donna Cino)]
#5 Census [sp...@islandnet.com (Donna Cino)]
#6 JOHNSON [ron...@intercoast.com.au (Ronda Ha]
#7 Re: Ian's Genealogy Pages [pycr...@cyberxpress.co.nz (Barry ]
#8 NEW SCOTTISH CLAN HISTORY SITE [John Wright <J....@btinternet.com>]
#9 settlers at Bathurst, 1827 [lin...@netspace.hinet.net.au (Lin]
#10 kathryn - nsw ["The Branes" <br...@quantum.net.au]
#11 Re: kathryn - nsw ["Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>]
#12 HOPPING [Jim Low <tra...@pnc.net.au>]
#13 Vic shipping records available in [ama...@zeta.org.au (Phil & Amanda ]
#14 S A family [audrey green <aud...@southcom.com]
#15 Australian Family history Web Page [Scott Brown <scot...@iname.com>]
#16 FREE ENGLISH WILL LOOK UPs FRIDAY [Jules <thr...@ucl.ac.uk>]
#17 Looking for cousins names Di Credi [dla...@mo-net.com (dlayton)]
#18 Missing death record [Murray...@bbs.st.net.au (Murra]
#19 Re: AHERN: anywhere; anytime; [Jane.P...@bbs.st.net.au (Jane P]
#20 Duff [norman....@ancest.com.au (Norm]
#21 Re: Accident in Sydney Ha [phil....@ancest.com.au (Phil You]
#22 Re: NATURALISATION PAPERS [tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au (Pa]
#23 WELLS FAMILY [der...@castlemaine.net.au (Derek ]
#24 Re: Sydney Harbour Bridge opening [jbar...@vianet.net.au (Judy Barne]
#25 COWAN & RUPRECHT FAMILIES [cat...@shoalhaven.net.au (Cathy Du]
#26 Re: Margaret O'Brien mid 1800, Lim [ah...@world.std.com ( )]
#27 Re: Date Sydney Harbour bridge bui [Diane Jarvie <di...@accessin.com..]
#28 DUFFY, Patrick (1786-1854) [Robyn Costley <costley@geocities.c]
#29 Re: Date Sydney Harbour bridge bui ["Doug Johnson" <djoh...@melbpc.or]

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 01:49:46 -0700
From: rls...@ozemail.com.au (Robyn Smith)
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Noeline,

I managed to get access to the divorce records of my great great grandmother
and her first husband.

I firstly used the State Govt Gazette to get information about the parties
to the divorce - dates, reference numbers etc. I then wrote to the Family
Law section of the Supreme court in Sydney stating that I was a direct
descendant of one of the parties to the divorce, that both parties were dead
and that I did not want the information to do any harm to anyone, just
family history research. I was then granted access to the actual court
documents. It cost - I forget how much. They also happily photocopied some
of the documents - this also cost and wasn't cheap so you have to be
discriminating.

Cheers
Robyn Smith

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X-Message: #2
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 01:50:58 -0700
From: nbur...@powerup.com.au (nburgess)
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Subject: ATTACHMENT NIGHTMARE
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Could I please make a request to the senders of attachment files? PLEASE
DONT!!!! I have spent the better part of two days trying to get my mail
from my server. After many hours of phone calls and online help the problem
was found to be an attachment file. I understand that if there is an error
in it my mailnews program goes ballistic.In the end the bad file was
located and deleted and it was sent via this newsgroup.
So I ask again.PLEASE DONT SEND ATTACHMENTS.
Thankyou
Diana Burgess
RESEARCHING : HAYWARD, GREAVES, GRUBB, CROW\E, WOCKNER.

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X-Message: #3
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 09:05:57 GMT
From: "jim carey" <+jca...@pginet.com.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc8c8$4697d020$0100...@oboy.pginet.com.au>
Subject: CAREY, Bristol area late 1800's
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If anyone has any info on Carey in the Bristol area 1800 - 1890 it would
really make my day :)

Jim Carey

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X-Message: #4
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 02:06:36 -0700
From: sp...@islandnet.com (Donna Cino)
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Subject: Help in Tasmania search please

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Would anyone be so kind and able to do a marriage search for me of the
following marriage in Tasmaina?
William EWIN
Mary Ann HOMER or Mary Ann Hammond
in Launceston Tasmania about 1850

Also I have a picture that I belive is my Grampa brother. On the back it
says it was taken at Bowinemouth and printed by Wardoura Motion
Pictures.
I belive this would be in the Melbourne area. has anyone heard of such a
place?
Help is greatly appreciated. Thanks again Donna in Canada

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X-Message: #5
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 02:18:58 -0700
From: sp...@islandnet.com (Donna Cino)
Message-ID: <3428DA...@islandnet.com>
Subject: Census

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I ahve one more query. Were there Census taken in the 1800 in Australia?
I'm sure it has been asked and answered before, so if you can bear with
me, I'd appreciate any info. and also how to search them form Canada, if
at all possible. tahnks again...Donna in canada

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X-Message: #6
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 03:03:42 -0700
From: ron...@intercoast.com.au (Ronda Harford)
Message-ID: <1997092410...@coastal.intercoast.com.au>
Subject: JOHNSON

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Looking for descendants of Ingval Jack JOHNSON and Annie Susan BARRETT
who married 1918 in Sydney.

Cheers
Ronda

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X-Message: #7
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 09:53:36 GMT
From: pycr...@cyberxpress.co.nz (Barry PYCROFT)
Message-ID: <87509834...@venus.plain.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Ian's Genealogy Pages
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Chris,
You might try my site at
http://www.voyager.co.nz/~pycroftb/index.html
for a link to Ian Claphams" Genealogy New Zealand"

and Ian is at
http://www.voyager.co.nz/~ianclap/

Regards, Barry P.
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chr...@rocknet.net.au (Chris) wrote:

>:|Hi All!

>:|Does anyone know where Ian's Genealogy Pages are? At present, the homepage,
>:|which was
>:|http://members.tripod.com/~moldy is blank with just an 'Under Construction'
>:|sign.

>:|Thanks
>:|Regards
>:|Chris

>:|http://www.rocknet.net.au/~chrisw

---
Barry P. pycr...@voyager.co.nz
NZSG 8530 http://www.voyager.co.nz/~pycroftb/index.html

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X-Message: #8
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 11:52:26 +0000
From: John Wright <J....@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <3428FE...@btinternet.com>
Subject: NEW SCOTTISH CLAN HISTORY SITE

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Please visit

http://www.impressions.uk.com

for general history of over 100 scottish families with search engine

John

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X-Message: #9
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 04:24:07 -0700
From: lin...@netspace.hinet.net.au (Lindsay Swadling)
Message-ID: <1997092411...@netspace.hinet.net.au>
Subject: settlers at Bathurst, 1827

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I have just finished reading "In Old Australia", the reminiscences of
Rev James S. HASSALL, originally published in 1902, two years before
his death. He was born in Parramatta in 1823, the grandson of the
Rev. Samuel MARSDEN. He mentions a testimonial given his father, the
Rev Thomas HASSALL, when he left Bathurst for Camden. The signatories
to the testimonial, in February 1827, were:

John STREET
Thomas KITE
R. LEWIS
Thos. WEST
Wm. JOHNSON
Thos. ASPENALL
Antonia RODWICK
Joseph WEST, Jnr
Geo. RANKEN
James PROCTOR
Henry BURNS
John WEST, snr
John BROWN
-- MULLHEAD
Joseph BATCHE
John WEST, jnr
R.V. DULHUNTY
Wm. BAYTES
Wm. PARKER
Joseph WEST, snr
Geo. CHESHIRE
John WEBB
-- CACHDEN
Wm. LEE
J.W. STURGEON
Hugh GEEHAM
Wm. WRIGHT
Wm. CHRISTIE
Thos. MILLER
G.G. GAFT
J. JONES
James VINCENT
Thos. EVERDEN
W. KABLE

best wishes from
Lindsay Swadling in Mittagong, NSW, Australia
lin...@hinet.net.au

visit me at http://www.hinet.net.au/~linswad/

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X-Message: #10
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 11:25:52 GMT
From: "The Branes" <br...@quantum.net.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc8dc$b83e9240$d25f3fcb@default>
Subject: kathryn - nsw
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kathryn, its joan brane here. We had to format our hard drive and I didn't
jot down your email address, can you reply. The Franklin Reunion went
well, I will write to you when I get your address

Joan Brane

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X-Message: #11
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 11:36:33 GMT
From: "Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc8df$0dbec6c0$04943ecb@default>
Subject: Re: kathryn - nsw
MIME-Version: 1.0

I have sent my address to Joan via email

Kathryn

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X-Message: #12
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 21:57:20 +1000
From: Jim Low <tra...@pnc.net.au>
Message-ID: <342900...@pnc.net.au>
Subject: HOPPING

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Hi all

Does anyone have any information on the HOPPING family?
I am particularly interested in Benjamin Jacob HOPPING who was born in
Bedfont, Chelsea,Middlesex, England. He was the 4th son of Hanna
RACKLIFF and Daniel HOPPING (son of Edward HOPPING and Jane FAIRFAX)

It is thought that the family was based in DEVON in the Exeter District.
During the war I believe Exeter was badly bombed and a headstone was
uncovered as a result. It was that of Charles HOPPING, a clothworker,
and was dated 1575.=20

The family is originally from England but a "mass" emigration seems to
have occurred in the mid 1850s.
The first HOPPING to emigrate went to CANADA.
In the 1850s there was a family emigration. They went three ways:
=95 America (also called HOPPIN in USA)
=95 New Zealand
=95 Australia
Three of the sons of Daniel and Hanna HOPPING of CAMDEN TOWN, England,
emigrated to Australia.

William Hopping and his wife, Lavinia, left Southampton on 24th August
1853. They sailed on the Hertfordshire as assisted immigrants and
arrived in Sydney on 10th December 1853. William was a 33 yer old
brickmaker and Lavinia was 34.

Charles Hopping and his wife Charlotte left Newcastle on 10th March
1855. They sailed on the Libertas as assisted immigrants and arrived in
Sydney on 28th June, 1855. Charles was a 32 year old brickmaker and
Charlotte ws 37.

Benjamin Hopping and his wife Sarah left Southampton on 16th December
1855. They sailed on the Maitland as assisted immigrants and arrived in
Sydney on 24th Aril 1856. Benjamin was a 23 year old brickmaker and
Sarah was 20.=20

I would be thrilled to make contact with other HOPPING researchers.

regards
Valda Low
tra...@fl.net.au

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X-Message: #13
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 06:01:02 -0700
From: ama...@zeta.org.au (Phil & Amanda Carkagis)
Message-ID: <3.0.3.16.1997092...@zeta.org.au>
Subject: Vic shipping records available in Sydney?

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Could some kind person please help me with some 'basic' information?
I know very little about the ships my relatives arrived in Australia on.
Most were in Victoria during the 1850's onwards. I need to spend some time
at a resource center to 'research'.
Does anyone know of any in Sydney/NSW that would have Victorian shipping
records?

Amanda Carkagis
Blue Mts, NSW
ama...@zeta.org.au

Searching in Australia, OLIVE in Tas, SA & Vic; SPEARMAN in SA & Vic;
MEWETT in SA & Vic; MCLURE, MCCRACKEN, CUMMINGS, CECIL, ROACH, DOWNER,
LLOYD, WEBB, GREY in Vic; BAILEY in NSW & WA;
Then most of the names settled in WA and NSW!

Searching in UK,
London, ASLING, MORGAN, FEDDIMAN, BAILEY, DOWNER; Essex/ Northhampton, OLIVE ;
Durham, SPEARMAN,CUMMINGS; Sussex, MEWETT; Shropshire, LLOYD; Suffolk, WEBB;
Berkshire, CECIL; Warwickshire, COLES; Scotland, MCLURE, MCCRACKEN;

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X-Message: #14
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 00:16:59 +1000
From: audrey green <aud...@southcom.com.au>
Message-ID: <342920...@southcom.com.au>
Subject: S A family

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I'm sorry to post this to the group but I sent it direct to Yvonne and
it came back undeliverable.
In reading a book I received week about S A families I noticed the
names you are interested in . You may already know o fthis contact but I
thought I would send it to you just in case.
G R Heylen
616 Regency Rd
Broadview S A 5083

Listed is .........
HEYLEN Joseph marr 20 June 1877 in Adelaide
to
CAVANAUGH Amelia
dau of YOUNGHUSBAND William and CAVANAGH Elizabeth
I hope I am not sending you irrelevant information.

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X-Message: #15
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:30:24 +1000
From: Scott Brown <scot...@iname.com>
Message-ID: <3429320F...@iname.com>
Subject: Australian Family history Web Page

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Covering the Albury, NSW and Adelong, NSW areas in particular but also
tracing some lines back to early 1600' IoM. Names Brown, Morton,
Moughtin, Matthews, Manning, Smith, Schintler, Walters, Heckner.
Convict, Characters and Cads at
http://www.powerup.com.au/~fsbrown/family/index.html

This site also has a bulletin board for you to paste those questions
that you can't seem to get answers for.

Come and have a look at these award winning pages for yourself. Over 500
people have since 30 July 1997

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X-Message: #16
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 17:04:57 GMT
From: Jules <thr...@ucl.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <342948...@ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: FREE ENGLISH WILL LOOK UPs FRIDAY 26th.SEPT

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Dear All,

I shall be down at the Probate registry on FRIDAY and will be able to
handle a few will look up requests for English Wills and Admons POST 1858

I shall need

1. Name of the Testator

2, Date of Death
3, Place of Abode

I shall not be able to deal with requests such as
"SEND ME ALL ENTRIES FOR SMITH 1858>Present"

but will tackle as many as possible
Please e-mail at address below
best wishes

Jules
thr...@ucl.ac.uk

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X-Message: #17
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 10:47:00 -0700
From: dla...@mo-net.com (dlayton)
Message-ID: <34296F...@mo-net.com>
Subject: Looking for cousins names Di Credico's and Pietrocola's and Tacconelli's
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Hello,

I am looking to find any of the telephone listings of cousins by names
of Di Credico, Pietrocola, and Tacconelli. I have been searching for
5 long years. write me lisa decredico@ dla...@mo-net.com

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!

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X-Message: #18
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 97 11:52:04
From: Murray...@bbs.st.net.au (Murray Wilson)
Message-ID: <6ad_970...@softtech.st.net.au>
Subject: Missing death record
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Hi Rob

rd> I can't figure out why the death of Ann JOYCE was reported in the
rd> Argus as 27 June 1854 but is not in the Victorian Deaths Index.
Why not check the NSW index, just in case

Cheers, Muzz

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X-Message: #19
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 22 Sep 97 08:05:05
From: Jane.P...@bbs.st.net.au (Jane Poulton)
Message-ID: <6ae_970...@softtech.st.net.au>
Subject: Re: AHERN: anywhere; anytime;
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-=> Quoting mur...@euphoria.apana.org.au to All <=-

Hi Terence,
Subject: AHERN: anywhere; anytime;
Just thought you might like to try the Ahern Families in Pakenham. Sorry
I have not got the phone book at present, but there are alot there and
I'm sure someone would help you out
Cheers, Jane

... ** Melbourne - Where there is always something worth talking about.

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X-Message: #20
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 06:10:37 GMT
From: norman....@ancest.com.au (Norman Mcmahon)
Message-ID: <8750...@ancest.com.au>
Subject: Duff
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Hi, Dorothy,

I saw Duff on your research list, and wondered if your Duffs
are related to the Kanimbla Valley Duffs? If so, I have a friend
researching this particular branch of the Duffs, who has an extensive file
on them.

regards, Norman

... Looking for Starrs, Dungans & Blackborough in Melbourne.

___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR]

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X-Message: #21
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 12:49:25 GMT
From: phil....@ancest.com.au (Phil Young)
Message-ID: <8751...@ancest.com.au>

Subject: Re: Accident in Sydney Ha

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-=> Quoting Notn...@intercoast.com.a to All <=-

>I am trying to find out if there was a boating accident in Sydney harbour
>around 1900.

Was it the ferry "Greycliffe" which was hit by the "Tahiti" in 1927
with the loss of 38 lives?

Phil.

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X-Message: #22
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 14:44:28 -0700
From: tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au (Patricia Jungwirth)
Message-ID: <1997092421...@aardvark.apana.org.au>
Subject: Re: NATURALISATION PAPERS
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Hi,

To the people that responded to this query - thankyou - looks like I better
get hold of those NATURALISATION PAPERS - the ancestor concerned is a little
elusive - perhaps the documents will yield a few more clues.

Anybody know how do I get copies of the documents? Do you know if there is a
place where I can view the documents rather than buy copies? - my budget is
pretty tight.

regards

Robert
using tricia's email address

take care,

Tricia

***tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au
**snail mail:

Patricia Jungwirth
PO Box 205
Ferny Creek
Victoria
Australia 3786

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X-Message: #23
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 15:39:23 -0700

From: der...@castlemaine.net.au (Derek & Di Reid)

Message-ID: <342A86...@castlemaine.net.au>
Subject: WELLS FAMILY

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Hi
I'll looking for decendants of Edwin WELLS and his wife Mary Ann WHITE
who seemed to have settled in Victoria and from Warwickshire Eng. They
had 7 children and the first 4 were not born in Vic.
Louisa b 1841 m. William Taylor
Sarah b. 1844
Matilda b. 1850 m. Francis Luke SMART
Thomas b. 1852
ellen b. 1855 Geelong
Emma b. 1857 Geelong m. Wm. Fredk. Thorsel Page
william b. 1860 Linton

Any info greatly appreciated.
Di Reid

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X-Message: #24
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 16:26:51 -0700
From: jbar...@vianet.net.au (Judy Barnett)
Message-ID: <v01540b01b04f45f05312@[203.26.237.238]>
Subject: Re: Sydney Harbour Bridge opening

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Lloyd Mitchell <lloyd.m...@mcmail.com> wrote in Genanz Digest 23/9/97:

>Mind you it looks like the official version of events has somewhat
>revised what really happened at the opening: as the Premier was about to
>cut the ribbon, a disgruntled ex-cavalry officer of somewhat right-wing
>leanings rode up in full uniform and cut it with his sabre.
>I'm not at home, so can't check the reference, and forget both his name
>(something like Lefevre?) and the cause he was publicizing: perhaps
>someone else can help?

Hi Lloyd,

Glad to be of help. "The Australian Almanac", Angus & Robertson 1985,
ISBN 0 207 15108 3 says:-

1932 March 19 - Sydney Harvour Bridge,designed by Sir Ralph Freeman, was
opened. The opening ceremony was delayed when a New Guard member, F. de
Groot, spurred his horse up to the ribbon and slashed it before Premier
Lang was able to do so. De Groot was charged with damaging public
property, to whit one ribbon, found guilty and fined five pounds. He
received 2,500 congratulary letters and telegrams.

"The Penguin Macquarie Dictionary of People and Places" 1987, ISBN 0 14 051209 8
says:-

de Groot, Francis Edward, 1888-1969, born in Ireland, antique dealer and
member of the New Guard; known for his disruption of the official opening
of the Sydney Harbour Bridge in 1932 as a public protest against Premier
J.T.Lang.

This book also has a reference to:

New Guard, a private organisation formed in Sydney, NSW, in 1931,
established along military lines, with the aims of serving the throne and
suppressing signs of communism.

If anyone is interested, I also found a lengthy description with much
detail of the New Guard in "Australia, A Cultural History" by John Rickard,
1988, under the heading 'Political institutions". I can copy it to anyone
interested.

One snippet: 'There is evidence that a section of the Guard may have
planned to kidnap Lang, but for whatever reasons such a coup was not
attempted.' Also, : 'There was always a strong element of military
nostalgia and boy scouts' high-jinks in the Depression esapades of what
Campbell termed 'that rather unique and happy fellowship called the New
Guard.'

There is also an eye-witness account of the occasion of 'The opening of the
Harbour Bridge' in "The First Two Hundred Years", Helen Palmer and Jessie
MacLeod, 1981. I quote this, with apologies for length, as it gives
detail:-

When the Governor-General's Lancer escort entered the grounds of Government
House, an officer in British service uniform rode up from a sidestreet and
kept circling round the grass plot outside the gates. I had descended into
the street from a flat opposite, and had noticed him because he was in
British uniform with a flat cap, and I asked an official marshalling the
pageant in the street what the man was doing. The official
replied,'Suppose he is part of the show'. which everybody else supposed...

As soon as Sir Isaac Isaacs, with his escort, came out, this officer joined
up, and riding a slight distance behind accompanied the procession to the
bridge. Nobody assumed he had no business there.

The procession having arrived at the bridge, the unknown officer posted
himself on the flank of the escort nearest the bridgeway. As the
proceedings developed, he edged nearer the ribbon which was to be cut by
Mr. Lang... Assuming him to be an officer, the escort requested him to
return nearer his men. Instead of obeying, he galloped on to the bridge
and attempted to break the ribbon with his horse. Having failed to do
this, he drew his sword and slashed the ribbon, at the same time shouting
melodramatically, "In the name of common decency and the people of New
South Wales, I declare this bridge open!"

Immediately he was pulled off his horse by the police and arrested. He
proved to be a Captain de Groot, of the British Reserve of Officers, late
of the 15th Hussars and Tank Corps. He keeps a curiosity shop in Sydney,
and is zone commander of the New Guard... The ribbon was re-knotted and
Mr, Lang finally cut it with scissors.

I sometimes haunt second hand bookshops, and go to the annual Perth Library
sales and have picked up some wonderful bargains in history books!! ;}

Regards,

Judy Barnett
Perth, Western Australia
jbar...@vianet.net.au

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X-Message: #25
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 00:41:49 GMT
From: cat...@shoalhaven.net.au (Cathy Dunn)
Message-ID: <3429b2db...@loomi.telstra.net>
Subject: COWAN & RUPRECHT FAMILIES
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Researching the Cowan and Ruprecht families of the Manning River
district. Both families settled therte in the mid 1850's. Lived on
Mitchell and Oxley Island.

Cathy Dunn
cat...@shoalhaven.net.au
Visit me at http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~cathyd

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To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 00:18:57 GMT
From: ah...@world.std.com ( )
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Subject: Re: Margaret O'Brien mid 1800, Limerick, Ireland
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motley (mol...@es.co.nz) wrote:
: I am seeking any information at all about Margaret O'Brien born in

: Limerick, Ireland who emigrated to Australia and married John Lincoln on
: February 11th, 1857 in Melbourne, Victoria. Margaret's parents were Daniel
: O'Brien and Catherine Hennessey.

See: http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/Limerick.htm
Limerick Family Heritage Centre computerizing parish records
Provides search service for a fee

http://www.bess.tcd.ie/roots/prototyp/limerick.html
Limerick sources for genealogy

http://www.mindspring.com/~cc003636/obrien.html
O'Brien Clan

http://www.users.on.net/proformat/auspass.html
Australian and New Zealand Passenger Lists

http://www.kst.dit.ie/nat-arch/index.html
Convicts transported from Ireland to Australia

These, and other useful links, can be reached from the TIARA web site.

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X-Message: #27
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 97 01:51:17 GMT
From: Diane Jarvie <di...@accessin.com..au>
Message-ID: <3429c395.0@cactus>

Subject: Re: Date Sydney Harbour bridge built?

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"Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au> writes: > It was Captain Francis De Groot who slashed the ribbon.

> He was a member of the extreme right-wing political group, The New Guard.
> They were opposed to Lang's socialistic policies aimed at combating the
> Depression.
>
> Regards
> Kathryn

There was a programme on ABC t.v. a while back that implied a young woman "Rosie" someone cut the
ribbon - not De Groot. One of Rosie's descendants allegedly has the pair of scissors! Rosie
was apparently something of a feminist in her day. Can't remember details - sorry.

Diane, Western Australia.

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X-Message: #28
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 12:45:25 -0700
From: Robyn Costley <cos...@geocities.com>
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Subject: DUFFY, Patrick (1786-1854)

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Is anyone researching the family of Patrick Duffy (1786-1854)from Calry,
co. Sligo, Ireland, then of Parramatta, then of Pennant Hills, the DUFFY
of DUFFYS FOREST) ?? I am trying to establish the issue of his son,
William Duffy (1811-1885) by his first wife Margaret Stanton
(b.c.1820-d.bef.1870. I believe my ancestor, Mary Ann Duffy (born 1837
Pennant Hills) was a daughter, but have so far been unable to prove a
connection. Can anyone help ?? Thanks!

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Robyn Costley
Campbelltown, New South Wales, Australia
"The Home of Fisher's Ghost"
... Researching Costley's and Brial's worldwide ...
Visit Me At my Aussie site: http:/www.mania.com.au/~robync/
OR
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/4134
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X-Message: #29
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 03:00:26 GMT
From: "Doug Johnson" <djoh...@melbpc.org.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc95f$90e60100$1c9d0ccb@vucqprlj>

Subject: Re: Date Sydney Harbour bridge built?

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I remember that particular program.

It was actually a small movie that someone had made. Using our wonderful
modern technology they had inserted "Rosie" into the appropriate places in
an old news reel/s.

Doug Johnson

Diane Jarvie <di...@accessin.com..au> wrote in article
<3429c395.0@cactus>...

> There was a programme on ABC t.v. a while back that implied a young woman
"Rosie" someone cut the
> ribbon - not De Groot. One of Rosie's descendants allegedly has the pair
of scissors! Rosie
> was apparently something of a feminist in her day. Can't remember
details - sorry.
>
> Diane, Western Australia.
>
>

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GENANZ-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 322

Today's Topics:
#1 Herald Tribune 140 Years [Jack Cammell <xtr1...@xtra.co.nz]
#2 Re: NATURALISATION PAPERS [gro...@ozemail.com.au (Pat Rossi)]
#3 Re: Missing death record, Ann JOYC [lin...@netspace.hinet.net.au (Lin]
#4 Arthur James NOONE [te...@clear.net.nz (termon)]
#5 DEATH LOOKUP PLEASE ["Valerie Wotton" <wottons@intercoa]
#6 Re: kathryn - nsw ["Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>]
#7 William HAYES & Jane McCLURE [rayh...@ozemail.com.au (Ray Hayes]
#8 Henry BUDD & Sarah Connor [rayh...@ozemail.com.au (Ray Hayes]
#9 Mary Lavinia (May) NORTON & James [rayh...@ozemail.com.au (Ray Hayes]
#10 Re: S A family [Malcolm Frost <ma...@twpo.com.au>]
#11 New book "The Internet, Computers [m.go...@qut.edu.au (User915)]
#12 Transcription agents for S.A+VIC? [barb...@voyager.co.nz (King & Pat]
#13 First Fleet [cu...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Denis F]
#14 EMMIGRATION VOYAGE DESCRIPTIONS 18 [N & D Bergman <nber...@gil.com.au]
#15 Re: Kathryn, Cock Luyting ["Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>]
#16 Re: Looking for Cock Luyting ["Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>]
#17 Re: First Fleet [Malcolm Frost <ma...@twpo.com.au>]
#18 Re: La Perouse Name Origin? [Graham Oliver <gol...@melbpc.org.]
#19 ROBINSON - Ireland/Scotland/Melbou ["Michael Robinson" <mro...@pcug.or]
#20 Collinsville Stud ["Bradley & Nicole Collins" <branic]
#21 Cubit [ran...@winshop.com.au (Randell Su]
#22 Re: Ian's Genealogy Pages [Diane Jarvie <di...@accessin.com..]
#23 Re: EMMIGRATION VOYAGE DESCRIPTION [gro...@ozemail.com.au (Pat Rossi)]
#24 Ellison/Lenehan [CSTA...@MAIL.STATE.WI.US]
#25 HUBBLE/WALKER/DUFFIN/CUTHBERT [castl...@aol.com (Castlebrom)]
#26 Re: NEW discussion lists for New Z [anpi...@igrin.co.nz (Anne Pickett]
#27 Free English Will POst 1858 look u [Jules <thr...@ucl.ac.uk>]
#28 Re: First Fleet [phof...@bis.net.au (hoffy)]
#29 Re: First Fleet [ae...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (A.W. Mu]
#30 Re: NATURALISATION PAPERS [pea...@voyager.co.nz (Pearl Wilson]
#31 NSW ASSOC of FAMILY HISTORY SOC - [west...@aljan.com.au (Windows95)]

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X-Message: #1
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 15:43:56 +1200
From: Jack Cammell <xtr1...@xtra.co.nz>
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Subject: Herald Tribune 140 Years

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The Hawke's Bay Herald Tribune has just celebrated it's 140th year in
business, and have printed a special edition. Contained therein are many
old photographs and stories of bygone days. If anyone is interested I'll
try and scan photos and copy the text.
Jack Cammell
E-Mail j.ca...@xtra.co.nz

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X-Message: #2
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 21:19:45 -0700
From: gro...@ozemail.com.au (Pat Rossi)
Message-ID: <3429E6...@ozemail.com.au>

Subject: Re: NATURALISATION PAPERS
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Robert (disguised as Patricia) Jungwirth
<tric...@aardvark.apana.org.au> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> To the people that responded to this query - thankyou - looks like I better
> get hold of those NATURALISATION PAPERS - the ancestor concerned is a little
> elusive - perhaps the documents will yield a few more clues.
>
> Anybody know how do I get copies of the documents? Do you know if there is a
> place where I can view the documents rather than buy copies? - my budget is
> pretty tight.
>
> regards
>
> Robert
> using tricia's email address
>

Hi Robert,

Naturalisation Papers are great records to get your hand on. Depending
on the timeframe, they give you key information like actual birthplace,
actual birthdate, ship of arrival, parents names, spouse details, etc.

These records are held by the Australian Archives in Canberra, see:-

http://www.aa.gov.au/

If your budget wont stretch to a trip to Canberra, they have Public
Search Rooms in each State. You can put your skates on and high-tail it
into the city (the weather is perfect for a trip to town) to:-

VICTORIAN OFFICE
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Public Search Room
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
2nd Floor Casselden Place
2 Lonsdale Street
Melbourne VIC 3000

GPO Box 4325PP
Melbourne VIC 3001 Australia

Phone: +61 3 9285 7999
Facsimile: +61 3 9285 7979
E-mail: ref...@aa.gov.au

Repository
^^^^^^^^^^
31 Vision Drive
East Burwood VIC 3000

Addresses for other State and Territory Offices can be found at:-

http://www.aa.gov.au/AA_WWW/AA_Addresses/AA_Addresses.html

BTW - W-H-E-R-E-S M-Y P-A-V-L-O-V-A??? I can't live on love ya
know!!!

PAT ROSSI,
Melbourne, Australia.

Using her son's internet account <gro...@ozemail.com.au, and LOVING it!!

Listowner - ARIA - Australasians Researching their Italian Ancestry.

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X-Message: #3
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 24 Sep 1997 22:54:48 -0700
From: lin...@netspace.hinet.net.au (Lindsay Swadling)
Message-ID: <1997092505...@netspace.hinet.net.au>
Subject: Re: Missing death record, Ann JOYCE

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On 24 Sep 97, Murray Wilson wrote:

> rd> I can't figure out why the death of Ann JOYCE was reported in the
> rd> Argus as 27 June 1854 but is not in the Victorian Deaths Index.
> Why not check the NSW index, just in case

the NSWPI gives this death:

SURNAME JOICE
GIVEN NAME(S) ANN
INDEX YEAR 1855
FATHER AGE 26
DENOMINAION CHURCH OF ENGLAND
PARISH CAMPERDOWN; NEWTOWN
VOLUME REFERENCE V1855247 43A
REGISTRATION YEAR 1855

best wishes from
Lindsay Swadling in Mittagong, NSW, Australia
lin...@hinet.net.au

visit me at http://www.hinet.net.au/~linswad/

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X-Message: #4
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 00:32:58 -0700
From: te...@clear.net.nz (termon)
Message-ID: <1997092507...@fep1-orange.clear.net.nz>
Subject: Arthur James NOONE

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Arthur James NOONE, born 1922 in NZ disappeared in 1953. The family have
always thought he went to Australia, but have never heard from him since.

Any ideas where to go to next?

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X-Message: #5
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 97 07:36:49 GMT
From: "Valerie Wotton" <wot...@intercoast.com.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc984$c7f63a00$197116cb@default>
Subject: DEATH LOOKUP PLEASE

I have lost the reference to the death of an Edward Banon/Bannen/Bannon who
died about 1903 in Queensland or Victoria. Would some kind person give me
the reference & any known details as I now want to apply for the
certificate. Many thanks.
Valerie Wotton

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X-Message: #6
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com

Date: 24 Sep 1997 11:36:33 GMT
From: "Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>

Message-ID: <01bcc8CANCELLEDc0$04943ecb@default>

Subject: Re: kathryn - nsw

I have sent my address to Joan via email

Kathryn

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X-Message: #7
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 01:18:46 -0700
From: rayh...@ozemail.com.au (Ray Hayes)
Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.1997092...@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: William HAYES & Jane McCLURE
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Seeking information on this couple and their ancestors.

William and Jane were married at Hadspen, Longford district, Tasmania,
Australia
in 1861.

They had three children
Henry born 1863, later christened Jacob Henry
Edmund born 1865
Samuel born 1868, later baptised Theophilus Adair

William apparently deserted the family and Jane eventually placed the boys
in the
Queens Orphanage in Hobart in 1872.

On the application for the boys to be placed in the orphanage, William is
shown
as having arrived as a convict on the "Anson", but no William Hayes is
listed in
the convicts on that ship.

There was a William Hayes on the "Asiatic" with some coincidental events
and places
but they may be just that.

Jane arrived in Tasmania with her mother Sarah and siblings William, Edmund
and Mary
aboard the "Black Swan" in January 1859, after sailing from Liverpool to
Melbourne
on the "Champion of the Seas" in 1858, from native place Ireland. There is
no mention
of Jane's father William McClure senior on the vessels, did he come
separately, or was
he born in Launceston and had a family in Ireland then returned later ?

I am interested in contacting any researchers following this or related lines.
Ray Hayes
Hobart, Tasmania, Australia

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X-Message: #8
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 01:22:57 -0700
From: rayh...@ozemail.com.au (Ray Hayes)
Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.1997092...@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: Henry BUDD & Sarah Connor
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Henry and Sarah married in Hobart, Tasmania in 1850.

Henry was a convict from the "Moffatt" and Sarah a convict from the "John
Calvin".

Henry's parents were William and Anne from Collumpton, Devon, England.

I would like contact with researchers looking at this or related families.

Ray Hayes
Hobart, Tasmania, Australia

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X-Message: #9
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 01:21:27 -0700
From: rayh...@ozemail.com.au (Ray Hayes)
Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.1997092...@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: Mary Lavinia (May) NORTON & James CLAY
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Seeking any information on this "Family".

Mary had four ? children in Queenstown, Tasmania

Myrtle Lavinia Maude 1903
James Edward Clarence 1904
Female ?
Cecil Ronald 1910

Myrtle, James and Cecil were registered as Norton, mother unmarried, but
James was
baptised in 1905 as Clay, father James.

It appears from the electoral rolls that Mary and James lived together for
some years,
and then separated. Mary moved to Hobart in about 1912, and married Thomas
Henry Budd
in 1913.

I would like to hear from any researchers following this or related families.

Ray Hayes
Hobart, Tasmania, Australia

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X-Message: #10
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:50:50 +1030
From: Malcolm Frost <ma...@twpo.com.au>
Message-ID: <342A10...@twpo.com.au>
Subject: Re: S A family
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audrey green wrote:
> I'm sorry to post this to the group but I sent it direct to Yvonne and
> it came back undeliverable.

Yes Audrey - my message below to Yvonne also bounced.

G'day Yvonne,
Regarding your query to GENANZ newsgroup - the following
is offered.
From the Index to SA Births 1842-1906:

YOUNGHUSBAND (not recorded) (M) 8 Feb
1852 North Adelaide dist Ade par William
YOUNGHUSBAND & Louisa (not recorded)
sym M b3 p331

(for some unknown reason the above entry is
repeated in the index making only two these entries
recorded for the period)

YOUNGHUSBAND Louisa (F) 27 Jul 1845
Adelaide dist Ade par William
YOUNGHUSBAND & Louisa Cecilia
THOMAS b1 p138

There are two columns of CAVANAGHs listed but no Amelia.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Malcolm.

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X-Message: #11
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 97 22:35:00 GMT
From: m.go...@qut.edu.au (User915)
Message-ID: <60d7om$q...@dove.qut.edu.au>
Subject: New book "The Internet, Computers & Genealogy"
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New book "The Internet, Computers & Genealogy"
By Malcolm Goddard and Janet Reakes

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which is written for beginners through to experienced users
of the NET. Please send $15.00 post included (in Australia)
to Janet Reakes, Australia's only full time professional
genealogist at the postal address below.

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Phone/FAX +61-71-28-4458

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X-Message: #12
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 07:55:30 GMT

From: barb...@voyager.co.nz (King & Patterson)

Message-ID: <342af401...@news.voyager.co.nz>
Subject: Transcription agents for S.A+VIC?

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If any one knows of transcription agents for the states of VIC
and SA, could you please forward contact address/e-mail to me.
Thankyou
Barb
barb...@voyager.co.nz

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X-Message: #13
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 09:34:28 GMT
From: cu...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Denis F. Lawless)
Message-ID: <60db74$g...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>
Subject: First Fleet

Would someone down under explain exactly what is meant by a
First Fleet Descendant. Seems self explanitory at first
reading but when did this fleet arrive in Australia? where did
it come from and who were the principal people involved.

Denis Lawless, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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X-Message: #14
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 20:05:28 -0700
From: N & D Bergman <nber...@gil.com.au>
Message-ID: <342B26...@gil.com.au>
Subject: EMMIGRATION VOYAGE DESCRIPTIONS 1800's

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Hallo
I read recently that during the time of the great emmigrations ( forced
mostly) of Scottish folk from Scotland to Australia and Canada, around
the 1840 to 1860 time period, somtimes "Gentlemen" who had paid for
passage on these emmigrant ships, would publish accounts of their
voyages for the 'amusement' of their peers as well as for the education
of their family.

It has occured to me that there may also be some surviving descriptions
around of the conditions in which the lowly poor emmigrants had to
travel on these ships., especially those unfortunates who travelled
'Steerage"

My ancestors from Scotland were MURCHISONs on board the ship"EDWARD
JOHNSON" in 1854 from Skye and MCGILLIVRAY's on board the ship
"HERCULES" in 1853, both ships arriving in Melbourne.

Does anyone out there know of any such voyage descriptions, even if they
don't come from these particular ships. I would be very interested to
read some.

Thanks in advance

Noel Bergman Email: nber...@gil.com.au

Brisbane

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X-Message: #15
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 10:21:31 GMT
From: "Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc99d$c036da40$05943ecb@default>
Subject: Re: Kathryn, Cock Luyting

I have made contact with someone named Luiting and hopefully will be able
to put them in touch with your friend in Holland.

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X-Message: #16
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 10:23:11 GMT
From: "Kathryn" <je...@zip.com.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc99d$fbbc4780$05943ecb@default>

Subject: Re: Looking for Cock Luyting

I have contacted someone named Luiting and hopefully will be able to put
them in touch with your friend in Holland.
Kathryn

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X-Message: #17
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 20:30:54 +1030
From: Malcolm Frost <ma...@twpo.com.au>
Message-ID: <342A36...@twpo.com.au>
Subject: Re: First Fleet

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Denis F. Lawless wrote:
> Would someone down under explain exactly what is meant by a
> First Fleet Descendant. Seems self explanitory at first
> reading but when did this fleet arrive in Australia? where did
> it come from and who were the principal people involved.
> Denis Lawless, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

G'day Dennis,
If you check:

http://www.users.on.net/proformat/auspass1.html

you'll find references urls to the First, Second and Third
Fleets. These fleets brought the first Europeans, 'whites'
basically of English origin, to settle in Australia.
This was many (over 40) thousands of years after our indigenous
people had possessed our island continent and islands such as
that of Tasmania. We do not have passenger lists available
for these original settlers - that is - as far as I know!
Regards,
Malcolm.

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X-Message: #18
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 21:21:53 -0700
From: Graham Oliver <gol...@melbpc.org.au>
Message-ID: <342B38...@melbpc.org.au>

Subject: Re: La Perouse Name Origin?

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Named after the comte de la Perouse who commanded a French scientific
expedition to the South Pacific which arrived in Botany Bay on 24th
January 1788 just a few days after the arrival of the First Fleet.

la Perouse's 2 ships sailed on the 10th March and were never seen
again. It was later found that they were wrecked with all lives lost in
Vanuatu.
--
,-._|\ Graham Oliver
/ Oz \ gol...@melbpc.org.au
\_,--.x/ Melbourne Australia
v

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X-Message: #19
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 97 11:13:44 GMT
From: "Michael Robinson" <mro...@pcug.org.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc9a4$1deb2320$6c4c...@supreme.pcug.org.au>
Subject: ROBINSON - Ireland/Scotland/Melbourne

Greetings all

Looking for information on my gggg-grandparents William Robinson, born 1815
in Sunderland, Ireland and Elizabeth (McCallum) Robinson, born 1816 in
Londonderry, Ireland. They were married in 1835 in Paisley, Scotland and
emigrated to Australia in 1841 (possibly aboard "The England" to Port
Phillip).

They had 11 children -
William (1836 Glasgow, Scotland) - my ggg-grandfather who married Catherine
McDonald (1834 Invernefsshire ?) in Melbourne in 1854 and died in 1918 in
Narrandera,NSW.

James (1839)
Elizabeth (1841)
Alexander (1843)
Elizabeth (1845)
Sarah (1847)
Jane (1850)
Mary (1855 Flemington, Vic)
Matilda (1857 Albion, Vic)
James (1860)
Emma (1865 Pyreete, Vic)

Any information people have on any of these relatives would be greatly
appreciated.

Michael Robinson

mro...@pcug.org.au

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X-Message: #20
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 11:46:22 GMT
From: "Bradley & Nicole Collins" <bra...@atinet.com.au>
Message-ID: <01bcc9a8$337ab620$766e23cb@branic>
Subject: Collinsville Stud

I am trying to locate the history of the Collinsville stud, in particular
the founding family and their history (Family Tree) if you can help please
write to bra...@atinet.com.au
Thanks.

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X-Message: #21
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 12:32:36 GMT
From: ran...@winshop.com.au (Randell Summerville)
Message-ID: <342a4349...@news.winshop.com.au>
Subject: Cubit

Who was looking for this family in the newsgroup?
I was talking to my neighbour and she was a Cubit from Tasmania.
Randell

email :- ran...@winshop.com.au
location :- Mermaid Beach, Queensland, Australia
http://surfcam.winshop.com.au/default.htm

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X-Message: #22
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 97 13:24:20 GMT
From: Diane Jarvie <di...@accessin.com..au>
Message-ID: <342a6604.0@cactus>

Subject: Re: Ian's Genealogy Pages

pycr...@cyberxpress.co.nz (Barry PYCROFT) writes: > Chris,

> You might try my site at
> http://www.voyager.co.nz/~pycroftb/index.html
> for a link to Ian Claphams" Genealogy New Zealand"
>
> and Ian is at
> http://www.voyager.co.nz/~ianclap/
>
> Regards, Barry P.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> chr...@rocknet.net.au (Chris) wrote:
>
> >:|Hi All!
>
> >:|Does anyone know where Ian's Genealogy Pages are? At present, the homepage,
> >:|which was
> >:|http://members.tripod.com/~moldy is blank with just an 'Under Construction'
> >:|sign.
>
> >:|Thanks
> >:|Regards
> >:|Chris
>
> >:|http://www.rocknet.net.au/~chrisw
>
>
> ---
> Barry P. pycr...@voyager.co.nz
> NZSG 8530 http://www.voyager.co.nz/~pycroftb/index.html
>

I have just found Ian at http://members.tripod.com/~surnames/

Diane Jarvie

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X-Message: #23
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 07:13:44 -0700
From: gro...@ozemail.com.au (Pat Rossi)
Message-ID: <1997092514...@server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net>
Subject: Re: EMMIGRATION VOYAGE DESCRIPTIONS 1800's
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>Hallo
>I read recently that during the time of the great emmigrations ( forced
>mostly) of Scottish folk from Scotland to Australia and Canada, around
>the 1840 to 1860 time period, somtimes "Gentlemen" who had paid for
>passage on these emmigrant ships, would publish accounts of their
>voyages for the 'amusement' of their peers as well as for the education
>of their family.
>
>It has occured to me that there may also be some surviving descriptions
>around of the conditions in which the lowly poor emmigrants had to
>travel on these ships., especially those unfortunates who travelled
>'Steerage"
>
>My ancestors from Scotland were MURCHISONs on board the ship"EDWARD
>JOHNSON" in 1854 from Skye and MCGILLIVRAY's on board the ship
>"HERCULES" in 1853, both ships arriving in Melbourne.
>
>Does anyone out there know of any such voyage descriptions, even if they
>don't come from these particular ships. I would be very interested to
>read some.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
Hi Noel,

I suggest you obtain a copy of a recently released book by Michael Cannon
entitled:-

Perilous Voyages to the New Land"

ISBN 0 646 24018 8

Published: 1997

Michael Cannon is a prolific writer of Victorian history. This book is
an insight into the conditions of the bounty emigrant ships to Australia
over the period 1840 to 1850. I doubt that things changed dramatically
for the better in the four years to 1854.

Its a bit pricy at $ 69.95, but well worth it if you have a particular
interest in emigration into Victoria at that time.

I got my copy from Readings Books here in Melbourne. I know they have a
web page - just a sec and I will do a search - here it is:-

http://www.readings.com.au/aa.htm

Regards,

PAT ROSSI.
Melbourne, Australia.

Using her sons internet account <gro...@ozemail.com.au>, and LOVING IT!!!

Listowner - ARIA - Australasians Researching their Italian (and
Swiss/Italian) Ancestry

Listowner - SUFFOLK County Mailing List

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X-Message: #24
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 08:03:02 -0700
From: CSTA...@MAIL.STATE.WI.US
Message-ID: <0003800001656563000002L032*@MHS>
Subject: Ellison/Lenehan
Content-Type: text/plain

I am working on the Ellison family (John, Third Fleet and Sarah Watkins)
based mainly in the Parramatta and Emu Plains areas. I am having trouble
with a Lenehan branch. John's daughter Jane married Michael Lenehan in
Sydney in 1845. Family moved to Bathurst and there Michael died (1854).
Apparently two children Michael (b 1845) and Anne (b 1853). Jane remarried
Joseph Wrigley (1855 at Kelso). My problems;

1) son Michael Andrew moved to Kempsie area married and had children. I
have found these births but then nothing on those children. Can someone in
the Kempsie area give me some clues? These children should be turning up in
the Electoral Rolls around 1910 or 1920, but where are they!!

2) daughter Anne (b 1853) I can find no marriage or death!!! Hints or
advice would be welcome.

Also I have just about every refenence to Ellisons in NSW, because most of
them are us. So if people are working on this name I would be glad to swap
info.

Clare

Ellison Family First Three Generations Connections: Souter, Lenehan, Hunter,
King, Coogan, Russell, Patter, Clarke, Southwell, Bates, Keepence,
Stapleton.

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X-Message: #25
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 16:29:12 GMT
From: castl...@aol.com (Castlebrom)
Message-ID: <19970925162...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Subject: HUBBLE/WALKER/DUFFIN/CUTHBERT

Am searching all of the families linked to the HUBBLEs of New Zealand, ca.
1800-1890. In particular, FRANCIS (FRANK) HUBBLE died in a mine accident
at Kalgoorlie, WA, ca 1901. Frank may have been known as THOMAS HENRY
HUBBLE in Wellington, before he went to WA. No trace of THOMAS has been
found. FRANK/THOMAS was married to Theresa Deverall. If you know any of
these names please contact Doug Poulter, Castl...@aol.com

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X-Message: #26
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 15:36:34 GMT
From: anpi...@igrin.co.nz (Anne Picketts)
Message-ID: <60e41p$3...@nova.igrin.co.nz>

Subject: Re: NEW discussion lists for New Zealand

Randall Haight <hai...@listserv.northwest.com> wrote:

> I have setup lists for all the counties in New Zealand. They are for
>genealogy and history discussion you can join one or all.

Is that really such a good idea? It would be much more convenient and
logical to have one overall list.

Waipu, NZ; phone/fax 64 9 432-0045 or 432-0225
Fidonet: 3:772/270.1
Researching: WILSON/ST JOHN/DUGGAN/RYAN/LEPPER
ICQ: 3277902 http://www.igrin.co.nz/~nancy/pick/index.html

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X-Message: #27
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 18:06:41 GMT
From: Jules <thr...@ucl.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <342AA8...@ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: Free English Will POst 1858 look ups

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Dear All

I shall be down at the PROBATE REGISTRY on Friday and will able to deal
with a limited number of will look up requests

I shall need

1. Name of the Testator

2. Date of Death
3. Place of Abode

Look forward to hearing from you all
Please e-mail me at the address below

Jules
Thr...@ucl.ac.uk

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X-Message: #28
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 18:24:17 GMT
From: phof...@bis.net.au (hoffy)
Message-ID: <342aab38...@news.bis.net.au>
Subject: Re: First Fleet

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Hi Denis

The first Fleet was a group of ships that bought convicts and marines
to Australia in 1788. I am a decendant of one of those convicts. John
Nichols.
My wife is a decendent of 1 First Fleet convict, Jane Langley and a
marine,Thomas Chipp. My wife is also a decendent from a John Lawless
that came to Australia from Ireland.
I hope this info helps.

phof...@bis.net.au

On 25 Sep 1997 09:34:28 GMT, cu...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Denis F.
Lawless) wrote:

>
>Would someone down under explain exactly what is meant by a
>First Fleet Descendant. Seems self explanitory at first
>reading but when did this fleet arrive in Australia? where did
>it come from and who were the principal people involved.
>
>Denis Lawless, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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X-Message: #29
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 19:59:51 GMT
From: ae...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (A.W. Muir)
Message-ID: <60efrn$i...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: First Fleet

Denis F. Lawless (cu...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> Would someone down under explain exactly what is meant by a
> First Fleet Descendant. Seems self explanitory at first
> reading but when did this fleet arrive in Australia? where did
> it come from and who were the principal people involved.
>
> Denis Lawless, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

When?...January 1788
Where from?...England
Who were involved?...Carried about 750 convicts of all ages and both sexes
as well as about 350 sailors, marines and officers. It was under the
command of Captain Arthur Phillip.
A list of First Fleeters can be found at:
http://www.pcug.org.au/~pdownes/dps/1stflt.htm
--
A. W. "BILL" MUIR

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X-Message: #30
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 13:51:58 -0700
From: pea...@voyager.co.nz (Pearl Wilson)
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.1997092...@voyager.co.nz>

Subject: Re: NATURALISATION PAPERS
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The Pat wrote to....
>Robert (disguised as Patricia) Jungwirth

>Hi Robert,

Bits snipped on account of the children and possible censorship.....

>If your budget wont stretch to a trip to Canberra, they have Public
>Search Rooms in each State. You can put your skates on and high-tail it
>into the city (the weather is perfect for a trip to town) to:-

>BTW - W-H-E-R-E-S M-Y P-A-V-L-O-V-A??? I can't live on love ya
>know!!!

I consider that the above is very slightly off-Topic and should
NOT be encouraged.

My advice to Robert aka Patricia is, gutzit yerself! That'll teacher!

Pearl.

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X-Message: #31
To: GENA...@rootsweb.com
Date: 25 Sep 1997 14:26:57 -0700
From: west...@aljan.com.au (Windows95)
Message-ID: <01BCC9B6...@c3modem5.aljan.com.au>
Subject: NSW ASSOC of FAMILY HISTORY SOC - CONFERENCE
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With just 4 weeks to go for this Conference being held in Newcastle this year on 24th, 25th & 26th October there are still a few vacancies. Registrations will be accepted up to closing mail 10th October.

Features Include:
Bookstalls, Displays & Demonstrations
The hunter Photo Bank - Collection of 60,000 images of the Hunter Region.
Photograph Copying Service

Speakers Topics include:
Family Research of the Irish who came to Australia
Koori Research
Genetics in Family History
Australian War Graves in France & Belgium
Discovering Records in the Australian Archives
Vigneron Families of the Hunter Valley
Naming & Social Structures in Celtic Lands

Full Conference Fee $55.00
Saturday Only $40.00
Optional - Saturday Night Dinner $30.00
- Sunday Hunter Photo Bank $ 4.00

To secure your Registration Form please send a Business size Stamped Addressed Envelope to: Conference Registrar, Newcastle Family History Soc Inc, P O Box 189, ADAMSTOWN NSW 2289.

Hope to see you there
Margaret Kenning
Conference Publicity Officer

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