http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24632990/
Olbermann: Mr. President, the war isn't about you
Olbermann: Bush's claim he gave up game to honor dead GIs is ludicrous
SPECIAL COMMENT
By Keith Olbermann
Anchor, 'Countdown'
updated 9:00 p.m. CT, Wed., May. 14, 2008
President Bush has resorted anew to the sleaziest fear-mongering and
mass manipulation of an administration and public life dedicated to
realizing the lowest of our expectations. And he has now applied these
poisons to the 2008 presidential election, on behalf of the party at
whose center he and John McCain lurk.
Mr. Bush has predicted that the election of a Democratic president
could "eventually lead to another attack on the United States." This
ludicrous, infuriating, holier-than-thou and most importantly bone-
headedly wrong statement came during a May 13 interview with
Politico.com and online users of Yahoo.
The question was phrased as follows: "If we were to pull out of Iraq
next year, what's the worst that could happen, what's the doomsday
scenario?"
The president replied: "Doomsday scenario of course is that extremists
throughout the Middle East would be emboldened, which would eventually
lead to another attack on the United States. The biggest issue we face
is, it's bigger than Iraq, it's this ideological struggle against cold-
blooded killers who will kill people to achieve their political
objectives."
Mr. Bush, at long last, has it not dawned on you that the America you
have now created, includes "cold-blooded killers who will kill people
to achieve their political objectives?" They are those in — or
formerly in — your employ, who may yet be charged some day with war
crimes.
Through your haze of self-congratulation and self-pity, do you still
have no earthly clue that this nation has laid waste to Iraq to
achieve your political objectives? "This ideological struggle," Mr.
Bush, is taking place within this country.
It is a struggle between Americans who cherish freedom, ours and
everybody else's, and Americans like you, sir, to whom freedom is just
a brand name, just like "Patriot Act" is a brand name or "Protect
America" is a brand name.
But wait, there's more: You also said "Iraq is the place where al-
Qaida and other extremists have made their stand and they will be
defeated." They made no "stand" in Iraq, sir, you allowed them to
assemble there!
As certainly as if that were the plan, the borders were left wide open
by your government's farcical post-invasion strategy of "they'll greet
us as liberators." And as certainly as if that were the plan, the
inspiration for another generation of terrorists in another country
was provided by your government's farcical post-invasion strategy of
letting the societal infra-structure of Iraq dissolve, to be replaced
by an American viceroy, enforced by merciless mercenaries who shoot
unarmed Iraqis and then evade prosecution in any country by hiding
behind your skirts, sir.
Terrorism inside Iraq is your creation, Mr. Bush!
***
It was a Yahoo user who brought up the second topic upon whose
introduction Mr. Bush should have passed, or punted, or gotten up and
left the room claiming he heard Dick Cheney calling him.
"Do you feel," asked an ordinary American, "that you were misled on
Iraq?"
"I feel like — I felt like, there were weapons of mass destruction,"
the president said. "You know, 'mislead' is a strong word, it almost
connotes some kind of intentional — I don't think so, I think there
was a — not only our intelligence community, but intelligence
communities all across the world shared the same assessment. And so I
was disappointed to see how flawed our intelligence was."
Flawed.
You, Mr. Bush, and your tragically know-it-all minions, threw out
every piece of intelligence that suggested there were no such weapons.
You, Mr. Bush, threw out every person who suggested that the sober,
contradictory, reality-based intelligence needed to be listened to,
and fast.
You, Mr. Bush, are responsible for how "intelligence communities all
across the world shared the same assessment."
You and the sycophants you dredged up and put behind the most
important steering wheel in the world propagated palpable nonsense and
shoved it down the throat of every intelligence community across the
world and punished anybody who didn't agree it was really chicken
salad.
And you, Mr. Bush, threw under the bus, all of the subsequent critics
who bravely stepped forward later to point out just how much of a self-
fulfilling prophecy you had embraced, and adopted as this country's
policy in lieu of, say, common sense.
The fiasco of pre-war intelligence, sir, is your fiasco.
You should build a great statue of yourself turning a deaf ear to the
warnings of realists, while you are shown embracing the three-card
monte dealers like Richard Perle and Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney.
That would be a far more fitting tribute to your legacy, Mr. Bush,
than this presidential library you are constructing as a giant fable
about your presidency, an edifice you might as well claim was built
from "Iraqi weapons of mass destruction" because there will be just as
many of those inside your presidential library as there were inside
Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
***
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Keith Olbermann, Dr. King sinh dde? o+? dda^'t My~ ne^n nguye^n qua'n
la` My~ Quo^'c co`n ca'c con la` thu+' a(n nho+`
o+? dda^.u ne^n co' pha.m pha'p lua^.t My~ thi` CP My~ co' quye^`n
tra? ve^` nguye^n qua'n ma^'y tha(`ng anti-US government activists la`
pha?i ro^`i !
Nguye^n qua'n cu?a con o+? dda^u va^.y ? con ddu+o+.c dde? ra o+? nu+o
+'c na`o va^.y? Cho ve^` nguye^n qua'n la` dde^? con co' tu+. do ngo^n
lua^.n 100%!
Sa'ng ra, ca'c con cu+' ngo^`i va'ch ddo^'c tru+o+'c nha` tha ho^` ma`
chu+?i My~!
Chu+' o+? My~ la`m gi` cho ma^'t "tu+. do", ro^`i la.i "nghe`o ddo'i"
nu+~a !
Hay la` ca'c con muo^'n qua thie^n dda`ng Co^.ng Sa?n Trung
Quo^'c ??? ;-)))
QTTT
ca'c
> Nguye^n qua'n cu?a con o+? dda^u va^.y ? con ddu+o+.c dde? ra o+? nu+o
> +'c na`o va^.y? Cho ve^` nguye^n qua'n la` dde^? con co' tu+. do ngo^n
> lua^.n 100%!
>
Tu*. xu*ng la` co' ba(`ng Lua^.t ma` kho^ng bie^'t lua^.t ve^` INS
deportation. Kho^ng le~ pha?i da.y TQ Thie^n ve^` vu. US vs John
Lennon (co^ng da^n Anh). Nu*o*c My~ co' lua^.t le^. ha(?n hoi, kho^ng
the^? tru.c xua^'t khi John Lennon qua My~ cho^'ng la.i cha'nh phu?
Nixon. Ve^` nha` kie^'m sa'ch lua^.t tra la.i ve^` vu. na`y. Hoa(.c
cu`ng la('m la` va`o Amazon.com mua sa'ch hay DVD US vs John Lennon
dde^? ho.c vu. nay`. Ngay ca? TT Nixon du` co^' ga('ng the^' na`o ddi
nu*~a cu~ng kho^ng tru.c xua^'t ddu*o*.c John Lennon la` co^ng da^n
Anh vi` toa` a'n My~ kho^ng cho phe'p tru.c xua^'t.
TT Thi'ch Nha^'t Ha.nh cu~ng thu*o*`ng xuye^n tu*` Pha'p sang My~
die^~n thuye^'t va` cu~ng hay chi? tri'ch cha'nh sa'ch chie^'n tranh
cu?a cha'nh phu? My~, nhu*ng ro^`i My~ cu~ng kho^ng ca^'m ddu*o*.c
o^ng qua My~. O^?ng co' ca'i la`ng thie^`n o*? Vermont lo*'n la('m.
DDa^y la` ca'i cao ca? cu?a ne^`n da^n chu? tu*. do cu?a nu*o*'c My~,
chi? co' nhu*~ng ke? qua' khi'ch cuo^`ng ti'n va` ngu do^'t mo*'i
kho^ng bie^'t ca'i cao ca? cu?a tu*. do.
Cha na`y ho.c lua^.t ma` kho^ng bie^'t gi` he^'t ve^ lua^.t
deportation thi` du'ng la`
ho.c ha`nh thi gian la^.n hay ho.c on line. O*? ca'i xu*' ma`
"Non ba^'t cao thuy? ba^'t tha^m" thi` nam dda tra'.
Old man! Tell me how this country was founded? Didn't the Brits
consider this country's founders terrorists, anti-British government?
Go back to school, old man! :o)
Da. ddu'ng ro^`i Mr. Lo^ng Be.n!
Ddo' mo+'i la` ta^.p 1 ve^` John Lennon tho^i.
Co`n ta^.p 2 thi` nga`i Lo^ng Be.n chu+a bie^'t to+'i! ;-)))))))'
Sa(~n dda^y no'i luo^n cho nga`i Lo^ng Be.n bie^'t the^m ta^.p 2 dde^?
mo+? mang the^m tri' o'c.
Trong ta^.p 2: ki.ch ba?n "la.nh lu`ng" nhu+ sau:
Ddoa`ng....ddoa`ng....ddoa`ng....dddoa`ng....ddoa`ng!
5 pha't dda.n tu+` ca^y .38 revolver thi` 4 pha't tru'ng va`o te^n
"anti-US government activist" John Lennon.
The^' la` banh toe xa'c pha'o !
Dda^'y!
Ro^`i ddo+`i hay toe mo~m la` nhu+ the^' dda^'y!
Tha'ng ro^`i, to^i co' to+'i cho^? John Lennon nga~ gu.c xuo^'ng. Ddo'
la` Dakota apartment. No' na(`m ngay go'c ddu+o+`ng Broadway Street
va` Central Park cu?a New York.
QTTT
Chi? khi na`o la`m nhu*~ng chuye^.n pha.m pha'p nhu* tro^.m ca('p,
gie^'t ngu*o*`i. Co`n chuye^.n pha't bie^?u y' kie^'n dda^u co' bi.
lua^.t ca^'m dda^u? Ho.c lua^.t ca'i tru*o*`ng na`o te^. qua' dde^?
TQT kho^ng bie^'t pha^n bie^.t to^.i pha.m va` tu*. do thua ca? tre?
con lo*'p 10.
Nu*o*'c My~ co' ca? nga`n sinh vie^n du ho.c tu*` VN, Saudis,
Pakistan, Iran, Egypt, va^n va^n pha^`n ddo^ng kho^ng hai` lo`ng
vo*'i cha'nh sa'ch My~ ma` kho^ng ai bi. tru.c xua^'t. Ngay ca? VN
cu~ng kho^ng tru.c xua^'t ca'c ky' gia? RFA da(ng ba`i pho?ng va^'n TT
Qua?ng DDo^., Huye^`n Quang, va` Hu*~u Loan. O*? My~ the^' ki? 21 ma`
tu* tu*o*?ng la.c ha^.u ngu do^'t nhu* the^' ki? 19 du*o*'i tho*`i vua
Tu*. Du*'c.
Ca'i case cu?a US vs John Lennon la` case no^?i tie^'ng sinh vie^n
lua^.t na`o cu~ng bie^'t. John Lennon quo^'c ti.ch Anh qua My~ ba(ng
visa cho^'ng cha'nh phu? Nixon ma` cha'nh phu? My~ kho^ng deport
du*o*.c vi` toa` kho^ng cho, kha'ng ca'o toa` tre^n da^y du*a ma^'y
na(m. Sau cha'nh phu? My~ thua. Va^.y ma` y kho^ng bie^'t.
Olbermann chi? tri'ch TT Bush thi` kho^ng sao he^'t.
Co`n em Connie Chung cu~ng chi? tri'ch TT Bill Clinton (vo+. cho^`ng
TT Bill Clinton) thi` bi.
banh toe xa'c pha'o!
Ddi to+'i dda^u xin job "news anchor"/"TV show" cu~ng bi. ngu+o+`i ta
la('c dda^`u he^'t!
Tro+`i quo+i!
La^u nay, nho+' em Connie Chung qua' chu+`ng! ;-)))))
Nghe tin em tha^'t nghie^.p tu+` tho+`i Clinton a' ...! ;-((((((
Ve^` Freedom of Speech thi` Olbermann va` Connie Chung kha'c xa 1 tro
+`i 1 vu+.c!
The^'t thi` ca'c em co' bie^'t su+. kha'c nhau giu+~a Olbermann va`
Connie Chung ho^ng?
QTTT
Dumb Thie^'n Heo co' pha?i.
Connie Chung bi. out of job vi` violated the code of ethics of press.
Thi` ra Lang Ben muo^'n la`m Nguye^~n Tha'i Bi`nh thu+' 2 tre^n dda^'t
My~!
O^i! thi` dda^u ca^`n ra toa` chi cho ra('c ro^'i!
Chi? ca^`n to^'n co' 25 cents mua ke.o ddo^`ng tho^i ma`!
A(n co+m ngu+o+`i ta ma` la`m tro` pha?n phu'c nhu+ Nguye^~n Tha'i
Bi`nh thi` bi. ngu+o+`i ta cho a(n ke.o ddo^`ng chu+' co' sao dda^u !
Chuye^.n na`y thie^.t 100%!
Vie^.t Nam ta ai cu~ng ne^n bie^'t ! ;-))))
Nhie^`u te^n tre^n dda^y gia? bo^. nga^y tho+ cu. .... !
Khi nghe tin "Nguye^~n Tha'i Bi`nh bi. toe mo~m" thi` ca'c te^n
ddo^`ng bo.n na(`m vu`ng cu`ng ba(ng vo+'i NTB to^ng cu+?a bo?
cha.y.... tuo^'t luo^'t qua Canada, hay Mexico ngay trong
dde^m ! ;-))))
QTTT
Oh! man
You want to be another Nguyen Thai Binh ?
Do you know Nguyen Thai Binh ?
Thi` ra Braveheart 06 aka ww aka "te^n nha` que^ le^n ti?nh Toilet"
Thi` ra dumbass Thie^'n Heo La'c Ddien muo^'n la`m Nguye^~n Tha'i
> Chi? ca^`n to^'n co' 25 cents mua ke.o ddo^`ng tho^i ma`!
>
> A(n co+m ngu+o+`i ta ma` la`m tro` pha?n phu'c nhu+ Nguye^~n Tha'i
> Bi`nh thi` bi. ngu+o+`i ta cho a(n ke.o ddo^`ng chu+' co' sao dda^u !
>
> Chuye^.n na`y thie^.t 100%!
>
> Vie^.t Nam ta ai cu~ng ne^n bie^'t ! ;-))))
>
> Nhie^`u te^n tre^n dda^y gia? bo^. nga^y tho+ cu. .... !
>
> Khi nghe tin "Nguye^~n Tha'i Bi`nh bi. toe mo~m" thi` ca'c te^n
> ddo^`ng bo.n na(`m vu`ng cu`ng ba(ng vo+'i NTB to^ng cu+?a bo?
> cha.y.... tuo^'t luo^'t qua Canada, hay Mexico ngay trong
> dde^m ! ;-))))
>
> QTTT
Are you threatening me, old man?
Who's acting like a terrorist now?
Frankly, people should report you to the FBI and Homeland Security for
making terrorist threat! :o)
btw, old man, why don't you be brave and be a man!
> Thi` ra Lang Ben muo^'n la`m Nguye^~n Tha'i Bi`nh thu+' 2 tre^n dda^'t
> My~!
>
> O^i! thi` dda^u ca^`n ra toa` chi cho ra('c ro^'i!
>
> Chi? ca^`n to^'n co' 25 cents mua ke.o ddo^`ng tho^i ma`!
>
> A(n co+m ngu+o+`i ta ma` la`m tro` pha?n phu'c nhu+ Nguye^~n Tha'i
> Bi`nh thi` bi. ngu+o+`i ta cho a(n ke.o ddo^`ng chu+' co' sao dda^u !
>
> Chuye^.n na`y thie^.t 100%!
>
> Vie^.t Nam ta ai cu~ng ne^n bie^'t ! ;-))))
>
> Nhie^`u te^n tre^n dda^y gia? bo^. nga^y tho+ cu. .... !
>
> Khi nghe tin "Nguye^~n Tha'i Bi`nh bi. toe mo~m" thi` ca'c te^n
> ddo^`ng bo.n na(`m vu`ng cu`ng ba(ng vo+'i NTB to^ng cu+?a bo?
> cha.y.... tuo^'t luo^'t qua Canada, hay Mexico ngay trong
> dde^m ! ;-))))
>
> QTTT-
hehe...ca'i ngu cu?a chu' paralegal la` chu' cu*' ni.nh bo*. ma^'y
o^ng My~ tra('ng republicans ma` chu' o/ hie^?u la` ho. ra^'t coi
thu*o*`ng ca'i -da'm ambulance chasers/litigators...
hehe...che^' ngu*o*`i kha'c tha^'t nghie^.p ma` posted multiple
messages trong gio*` la`m. Bo^. o/ co' business ha? cu*ng?
Be your own man, dude! -Du*`ng co' du*.a ho*i ngu*o*`i khac'!
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No, report Mr. QTTT to the NAACP for practicing Terrorist Laws without
a license. :-))))
Pooh
Khu*'a na^`y o/ pha?i lawyer -da^u! He has no concept of U.S. history
and/or the legal system. Ne^'u co' ba(`ng mua thi` ba?o -da?m chu*a
co' worked a real case (beside traffic, insurance, dui cases. hehe).
LB se~ report him to the FBI and Homeland Security! :o)
Are you a terrorist to the US? ;-))))
ho ho ho!
I think that you want to destroy the US, man! ;-)))))))))))))))
Am I a terrorist to US?
Ho ho ho...
QTTT
> Are you threatening me, old man?
>
> Who's acting like a terrorist now?
>
> Frankly, people should report you to the FBI and Homeland Security for
> making terrorist threat! :o)
>
> btw, old man, why don't you be brave and be a man!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Freedom of Choice, man!
To+' guarantee vo+'i ma^'y chu' la` to+' sa(~n 24/24 va` 7 nga`y/
tua^`n va^~n post dde^`u dde^`u tre^n SCV ! ;-)))))))))))))))))))
Co' da'm le^n dda^y 24/24 va` 7 nga`y/tua^`n kho^ng?
Coi chu+`ng ddu+'t che^'n dda^'y nha'!
Chi? co' ma^'y chu' la` tha^n culi, gu.c ma(.t ma`
tho^i! ;-))))))))))))))))))))))))
QTTT
> hehe...ca'i ngu cu?a chu' paralegal la` chu' cu*' ni.nh bo*. ma^'y
> o^ng My~ tra('ng republicans ma` chu' o/ hie^?u la` ho. ra^'t coi
> thu*o*`ng ca'i -da'm ambulance chasers/litigators...
>
> hehe...che^' ngu*o*`i kha'c tha^'t nghie^.p ma` posted multiple
> messages trong gio*` la`m. Bo^. o/ co' business ha? cu*ng?
>
> Be your own man, dude! -Du*`ng co' du*.a ho*i ngu*o*`i khac'!- Hide quoted text -
Ra ddi vo+'i to+'i FBI, HomeLand Security ! ;-)))
Co' da'm ra dda^y kho^ng na`o ? ;-))))))))
Co' bie^'t ca'i gi` US history ? legal system?
Ddo^` no'i do'c !
Dda^u no'i thu+? ve^` US history coi ? ;-))))))))))))
hay la.i tro^'n ca^`u tie^u, toilet nu+~a
ro^`i! ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Dda^u no'i thu+? ve^` Legal System coi ? -)))))))))))
Ddo^` no'i do'c !
Chi? la`m culi to^'i nga`y!
Cho+` chu? ddi va('ng, mo+'i le'n lu't vo^ Internet! ;-))))))))))))))
Co' ngon mo+? internet 24/24 le^n SCV cho+i to^'i nga`y sa'ng dde^m nhu
+ tao dda^y!
Oh! Man!
Thanks God!
I have a real good job! ;-)))))))))))))))))))
QTTT
> Khu*'a na^`y o/ pha?i lawyer -da^u! He has no concept of U.S. history
> and/or the legal system. Ne^'u co' ba(`ng mua thi` ba?o -da?m chu*a
> co' worked a real case (beside traffic, insurance, dui cases. hehe).
>
> LB se~ report him to the FBI and Homeland Security! :o)- Hide quoted text -
> Co' ngon mo+? internet 24/24 le^n SCV cho+i to^'i nga`y sa'ng dde^m nhu
> + tao dda^y!
U'i! Ca'i job ngon la`nh woa' pha?i la`m 24/24! hehe
Nghe no'i lu'c o^ng thie^.u -di ca'i vali nghe leng keng! Cha('c o^?ng
tha^?y cho 1-2 cu.c! hihi
Vietnamese at home does not have the Rights to free speech so
saying something in public contrary to the official line will expose
the culprit to prison or at the very least to harassment.
Un Vietnam, It is unheard of to hear any Vietnamese taking side with
the Government , demanding expulsion from Vietnam of the dissenting
Culprit as Ben claimed because it is not in the culture of Vietnam
to expel any Vietnamese for any crimes they might have committed.
Asking for Prison term or execution is more probable.
To a Vietnamese American in Vietnam it is different. For expressing
hostile opinion to the VCP in public Expulsion is the norm because
holding them prisoners would be contrary to the interest of the state
as understood by the VCP.
The National Interest of Vietnam is not to offend too much the
countries which granted Economical and Political support to Vietnam
and which bestowed citizenship to the Oversea Vietnamese . So when
the latter committed crimes in Vietnam, except for crimes that were
condemned by all countries concerned such as Terrorism with intend to
destroy lives and treasures, an oversea Vietnamese is generally
expelled for expressing hostile opinion regarding the VCP.
Printing and distributing leaflets will incur light prison terms.
In contrast a Boat People resident of Free Countries like the USA had
his Second Constitution Amendment rights protected almost absolutely.
A few celebrities like Charlie Chaplin a green card holder get
expelled during the Mc Carty Persecution era of the Fifties for
suspected Pro Communist sympathy. But this is now very rare although
not impossible,
In the SCV World, the only people who threatened to expel dissenter
are rabid Anti Communist like Ly Thanh Binh (Uncle Beng) Viettthot
and about a dozen persons still active SCVers . They had ceased to
threaten to expel or to inform O^ng Kovan (Mr Pidgeon or O^ng Bo^`
Ca^u) of the culpability and hence of the desirability of expelling
these dissenter . Instead they asked rhetorical question: If you
are unhappy about the USA why don’t you go back to Vietnam.
These cowards knew full well they have no power whatsoever of
expelling anybody so what their action amounted to was nothing more
than Collective Masturbation.
I strongly believe that most Vietnamese has no need for freedom like
a fish has no need for a bicycle. If the fish were to need a bicycle
the Good Lord would give it a pair of legs, If the Vietnamese were to
need Freedom, the Good Lord would give Him a working brain to
differentiate between his own freedom and the freedom of others
because they are mutually inclusive.
On May 15, 7:14 pm, Ben5511 <pb5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I strongly believe that most Vietnamese has no need for freedom like
> a fish has no need for a bicycle. If the fish were to need a bicycle
> the Good Lord would give it a pair of legs, If the Vietnamese were to
> need Freedom, the Good Lord would give Him a working brain to
> differentiate between his own freedom and the freedom of others
> because they are mutually inclusive.
>
Not that I hadn't heard this from you before... But it is still
hilarious as hell :-)
n.t.
Tha(`ng Thie^'n Heo kho^ng xong ca'i AA o+? co^.ng ddo^`ng la`m sao
ma` no'i dde^'n chuye^.n law school ddu+o+.c?
May ma` co' paralegal online ne^n no' mo+'i "ha`m thu." ma gia'o va^.y
tho^i. Co`n muo^'n ca'i ba(`ng LS thi` to^'n tu+` $500 dde^'n $1000
tu`y cho^~ la` co' quye^`n ddo'ng khung treo tu+o+`ng.
Nghi~ ho^`i xu+a VN mo^~i na(m xong HS khoa?ng va`i tra(m nga`n.
Trong so^' ddo' va`i chu.c nga`n bon chen va`o dda.i ho.c. Thi va`o
ca'c pha^n khoa ddu+o+.c va`i nga`n, co`n la.i va`i chu.c nga`n thi`
o^i tho^i ai cu~ng la` lua^.t ca?. Ha`m thu. lua^.t thi` so^' mo^.t.
Mo^~i na(m co' va`i nga`n o^ng cu+? nha^n lua^.t (ta dda^y la` lua^.t
su+) ra tru+o+`ng. Co^ng vie^.c tu+` lu+o+.m lon, tha^u ra'c, dde^'n
you name it. Thu+.c ta`i dda^u kho^ng tha^'y ma` tha^'y toa`n khoa'c
la'c kho^ng. Ta dda^y co' "cu+? nha^n lua^.t".
Two personal injury lawyers met at a cocktail party.
“How’s business?” asked the first.
“Rotten,” replied the other. “Yesterday, I chased an ambulance for
twenty miles. When I finally caught up to it, there was already
another lawyer hanging on to the bumper.”
1 ngu*o*`i co' a(n ho.c, la`m lua^.t su* -da`ng hoa`ng, kho^ng ai
argues nhu* cha?! In fact, they thrive/enjoy debates/arguments.
That's what they do for a living.
Khu*'a na^`y khi o/ -do^`ng y' vo*'i posts cu?a ngu*o*`i kha'c,
actually posts that described subjects that have nothing to do with
him personally, la.i personally attacked ngu*o*`i posters, instead of
tackling the subjects being debated, like a professional lawyer would.
This is what I'd meant by this guy is not a lawyer (beside the facts
that he does not have any knowledge of u.s. history or laws :o).
Ne^'u la` lua^.t su* tha^.t ma` a(n no'i nhu* va^.y vo*'i lawyers
kha'c hay judges o*? trong court thi` cha('c -da~ bi. bailiff ba('t
vo^ tu` na(`m va` -da~ bi. disbarred tu*` la^u ro^`i. Name one
legitimate case you'd worked on or have lead!
Khu*'a na^`y du*.a ho*i da^n held power tru*o*'c '75. Hung out vo*'i
loa.i corrupted officials. Du`ng lu*.c/connections -de^? -de` & -
da`ng a'p da^n chu'ng va` ni.nh bo*. nhu*~ng te^n corrupted officials
cao ho*n. Trong khi li'nh che^'t ngoa`i tra^.n thi` chu'ng lo a(n
cho*i! Co' tv hay reporters tru*o*'c ma(.c thi` no'i chu'ng to^i ye^u
nu*o*'c, se~ -da'nh to*'i cu`ng...!
Tha^'y ca'ch -do^'i xu*? cu?a him tre^n scv gio^'ng y he^.t nhu* bo.n
na^`y. Hu`a theo da^n hold power. Chu'ng no' corrupted thi` ke^.
ba^y vi` nga`y xu*a bo.n tao cu~ng va^.y. Li'nh nghe`o cu?a tao
che^'t ngoa`i tra^.n, tru*o*'c '75 va` Iraq& Afghanistan hie^.n ta.i,
tao o/ care, mie^~n sao tu.i mi`nh hold power va` co' tie^`n thi` who
cares. Tha(`ng na`o dissents thi` -da^.p cho no' che^'t, ba('t chu'ng
va`o tu`, deport chu'ng... cho -da`ng em -de^'n -da'nh -da^.p (nhu*
khi xu*a o*? vn vi` bie^'t tu*. mi`nh -da'nh o/ la.i) hay a'm sa't (25
cents, hehe...).
Da^n CC, ho.c lua^.t, ngu*o*`i ti. na.n chi'nh tri. ma` o/ hie^?u, o/
coi tro.ng quye^`n tu*. do cu?a ngu*o*`i kha'c va` act like ma^'y
tha(`ng thugs... va^.y ma` co`n -do`i -da.i die^.n co^.ng -do^`ng...
what a joke! Hung du*~ vo*'i ngu*o*`i vn, nhu*ng ra ngoa`i -du*o*`ng
ga(.p o^ng My~ tra('ng republican thi` la.i lu'm khu'm.
Co`n ma('ng ngu*o*`i -di la`m la` da^n culi, nhu*ng o/ bie^'t mi`nh
co' a(n ho.c ho*n ho. hay la` wealthy ho*n ho. hay kho^ng (not an
important point). Nhie^`u ngu*o*`i co' the^? nghi~ la`m, nhu*ng ho.
vi` bored va` muo^'n productive, la`m giu'p g/d, ngu*o*`i
nghe`o...good causes... -da^u co' pha?i ai cu~ng gi`a a(n ba'm, o/ co'
vie^.c la`m/business ro^`i le^n scv khoe khoang no^? vo*'i ma^'y o^ng
gi`a kha'c to^'i nga`y..hehe
-Di ngu? -di! Nho*' tha'o ca'i ha`m ra(ng gi?a/bo? va`o ly nu*o*'c,
nghe counsel! :o)
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On May 22, 10:52 am, "lacd...@yahoo.com" <lacd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Tha(`ng Thie^'n Heo kho^ng xong ca'i AA o+? co^.ng ddo^`ng la`m sao
> ma` no'i dde^'n chuye^.n law school ddu+o+.c?
> May ma` co' paralegal online ne^n no' mo+'i "ha`m thu." ma gia'o va^.y
> tho^i. Co`n muo^'n ca'i ba(`ng LS thi` to^'n tu+` $500 dde^'n $1000
> tu`y cho^~ la` co' quye^`n ddo'ng khung treo tu+o+`ng.
>
> Nghi~ ho^`i xu+a VN mo^~i na(m xong HS khoa?ng va`i tra(m nga`n.
> Trong so^' ddo' va`i chu.c nga`n bon chen va`o dda.i ho.c. Thi va`o
> ca'c pha^n khoa ddu+o+.c va`i nga`n, co`n la.i va`i chu.c nga`n thi`
> o^i tho^i ai cu~ng la` lua^.t ca?. Ha`m thu. lua^.t thi` so^' mo^.t.
> Mo^~i na(m co' va`i nga`n o^ng cu+? nha^n lua^.t (ta dda^y la` lua^.t
> su+) ra tru+o+`ng. Co^ng vie^.c tu+` lu+o+.m lon, tha^u ra'c, dde^'n
> you name it. Thu+.c ta`i dda^u kho^ng tha^'y ma` tha^'y toa`n khoa'c
> la'c kho^ng. Ta dda^y co' "cu+? nha^n lua^.t".-
Sao ma`y ho?i ngu the^' ?
Ma`y ho^?ng ddo.c SCV a`? kho^ng ddo.c ba'o Vie^.t Nam a`?
kho^ng bie^'t Gu go^ so+.t a` ? ;-))))
Va`o SCV dda^y ma` search vo+'i ca'c tu+` "Mai Dao Ly Tong 2007"
Bo^' ma`y o+? dda^y la`m lead attorney cho ligitimate case cu?a Ly'
To^'ng. Case na`y lu+`ng danh thie^n ha..
Lua^.t su+ Vie^.t-My~ dde^`u ddo`i tie^`n 150-200 nga`n ddo^ la va`
sau ddo' ddo.c ho^` so+ xong la` bo? cha.y! ;-))))))))))))))))).
Bo? cha.y la`ng vi` lie^n quan dde^'n lua^.t le^. anti-terrorism,
deportation cu?a ca? 3 nu+o+'c My~, Tha'i Lan, Vie^.t Nam.
Nho+` co' bo^' ma`y "lie^`u li~nh" la`m lead attorney ma` anh hu`ng
Ly' To^'ng dda`ng hoa`ng bu+o+'c ra kho?i co^?ng tra.i tu` Tha'i Lan.
Chuye^.n na`y ha^`u nhu+ ai cu~ng bie^'t. O+? My~ chi? co' the^m 1
lua^.t su+ can dda?m kha'c ma` tho^i. Ddo' la` L/S Hoa`ng Duy Hu`ng.
Sao lu'c ddo' nga`i toilet ww + Lang Ben + Ho Chi Manh kho^ng nha?y ra
can thie^.p giu`m ??????? ;-)))))
Nghe no'i ra`nh ve^` "Legal System" ma` ?
Can you name one legitimate case that you've worked on? ;-)))))
Here is my proof. My name is on the number 13.
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To: - The Honorable Minister of Justice
- The Honorable Attorney General
- The Honorable Judges of the Appellate Court of Thailand
cc: - President George W. Bush
- Secretary of State Dr. Condoleezza Rice
Subject : Confirmation of Ly Tong’s Political Offense .
Black case no. OR. PHOR. 4/2549
Red case no. OR. PHOR. 6/2549
Your Honor,
We, the undersigned, are Judges, Prosecutors, Lawyers have submitted
this testimony to confirm that Freedom Fighter Ly Tong’s mission on
17
Nov. 2000 was a political action with evidence as follows :
I. Extradition Case:
Thai Extradition Act BE 2472 (1929)
1. Article 17 : “…The Appeal Court is authorized to consider evidence
and protestation in the following matters : Nationality of the
accused, such alleged offense is not extraditable, such offense
is political or the genuine intention of extradition request is to
punish the accused in other political offense, or There is
insufficient evidence to show the lower court to grant order.”
a. Nationality: The accused’s former nationality was the citizen of
The Republic of Vietnam (The South), not of the Socialist Republic of
Vietnam (The Communist North) . The accused’s current nationality is
an American citizen.
b. Not Extraditable Offense:
Article 4 of The Extradition (Aviation Security) Order 1991,
paragraph
(2) stipulates that: “In the case contemplated in subparagraphs(a)
[To
act violently], (b) [To destroy], (c) [ To place device or substance]
and (d) [To communicate false information to endanger the safety of
an
aircraft in flight] of paragraph 1 of Article 1, this Convention and
Protocol shall apply, irrespective of whether the aircraft is engaged
in an international or domestic flight, only if: (a) The place of
take-
off or landing, actual or intended; of the aircraft is situated
outside the territory of the state of registration of that aircraft;
or (b) The offense is committed in the territory of a state other
than
the state of registration of the aircraft.”
Ly Tong did not take off or land outside Thailand and his offense was
committed in the Thai aircraft, the extended territory of Thailand,
the state of registration of the aircraft. Even a person who acts
violently and destroys the aircraft cannot be extradited pursuant to
Article 4, so how an innocent, who used no threat, no force, only
begging for help and offering a reward worth 2-year salary of the
instructor to win his voluntary cooperation in the mission, can be
extradited by Thai Court?
For more evidence and details, please read Ly Tong’s Testimony :
“Counter-Arguments Against the Request for and the Acceptance of Ly
Tong’s Extradition to Vietnam before Thailand’s Appellate Court.”
c. Political Offense:
Dropping leaflets is a political action, the right of expression,
recognized by Article 69 of Communist Vietnam’s Constitution and
Article 19 of The International Covenant on Civil and Political
Rights
(ICCPR). That’s why the Thai Government and the Thai Court have
rejected Communist Vietnam’s charge of Anti-State Propaganda based on
VN’s Article 88.
d. Insufficient Evidence: Communist Vietnam charged Ly Tong with
Infringing on Vietnam’s Territorial Security. This Article 81 has two
parts:
(1) Changing national border: Ly Tong’s mission did not change
Vietnam’s border.
(2) Harming Vietnam’s Territorial Security : Ly Tong’s leaflet-
dropping did not harm Vietnam but meant to save Vietnam from the
totalitarian yoke .It only tried to harm the Communist regime which
oppresses and exploits Vietnam’s people. Therefore, Ly Tong cannot be
charged with Article 81 of 1999 Criminal Code of Communist Vietnam.
Article 8 of Communist Vietnam’s Criminal Code is equivalent to Thai
Article 28 of the Aviation Act AD 1954 and Article 11 of Thai
Immigration Act AD 1979.
2. Article 5: Double Jeopardy: “Extradition will not be granted if
the
person claimed has already been tried and discharged or punished in
any Country for the crime for which his extradition is requested.”
Rayong Court already did charge Ly Tong by Article 11 of the
Immigration Act AD 1979 for 4 months in prison. Therefore, the Court
Verdict violated Article 5 of Thai Extradition Treaty 1929 and
committed double Jeopardy.
3. Article 7: Double Criminality: (b)...“by such evidence as would
justify the commitment for trial of the accused if the crime had been
committed in Siam.” Ly Tong flew in and out of Thai airspace the same
way he did in Vietnam but the Rayong Court did not charge him by
Article 28 of the Aviation Act AD 1954. Why Communist Vietnam did?
Because he did not drop leaflets in Thailand, but in Vietnam to
appeal
people to overthrow the Communist regime. That meant, the genuine
intention of extradition is to punish him for leaflet-dropping, a
political offense, already rejected by Thai Government and Thai
Court . The Court Verdict therefore violated the principle of Double
Criminality of Article 7 and other Article 10, Article 11, Article 13
and Article 17 of Thai Extradition Act 1929 as well for political
offense and political intention of extradition.
4. Article 4: Jurisdiction: Communist Vietnam’s Jurisdiction :
Thai Aviation Act BE 2497 about Dual Jurisdiction: “The commission of
an offense in any Thai vessel or aircraft shall be deemed as being
committed within the kingdom, irrespective of the place in which
where
such Thai vessel or aircraft may be.” And Article 5 of The
Extradition
(Aviation Security) Order 1991 No.1699 stipulates: (1) “Each
contracting state shall take such measures as may be necessary to
establish its jurisdiction over the offenses in the following cases.
(a) When the offense is committed in the territory of that state; (b)
When the offense is committed against or on board an aircraft
registered in that state; (c) When the aircraft on board which the
offense is committed lands in its territory with the alleged offender
still on board; and (d) When the offense is committed against or on
board an aircraft leased without crew to a lessee who has principal
place of business or, if the lessee has no such place of business,
his
permanent residence, in that state.”
Ly Tong committed the offense on board the Thai aircraft, the
extended
territory of Thailand, not of Vietnam. He did not land in Vietnam,
and
he leased the aircraft with crew, instructor Teera and he has no
business nor residence in Vietnam, but in the United States of
America. So, Communist Vietnam could not establish its jurisdiction
over Ly Tong’s offense.
II. Hijack Case:
Condition II (Mens Rea): Article 3(3) of the Hague Convention on
Hijacking 1970 stipulates that: “This Convention shall only apply if
the place of take-off or the place of landing on which the offense is
committed is situated outside the territory of the state other than
the state of registration of that aircraft. It shall be immaterial
whether the aircraft is engaged on an international or domestic
flight.” Ly Tong took-off and landed inside Thai territory and did
not
land anywhere outside Thailand during his flying mission. Therefore,
pursuant to this Article 3(3), he could not be charged with hijack.
If
he were to hijack, he would have landed at any remote runway in
Cambodia and escaped, not to come back to Thailand and landed openly
at such a big base as Utapao to be arrested, charged and imprisoned.
He used this arguments many times before Rayong Court with the
witness
of US Consul Jeffrey Schwenk, his lawyer Somsak Samret, his
supporters, about hundreds of them during the 3-year trial, even in
his testimony submitted to Rayong Court and Instructor Teera did
mention this issue before Prachuap Court by confirming that : “The
accused could control the aircraft to land anywhere he wanted.” Ly
Tong did appeal his case, but there was a conspiracy to reject his
appeal as detailed in “Ly Tong’s Testimony To Unmask The Conspiracy
For A False Hijack Charge.”
III. The Interpretation And Application: Article 14 of the
Extradition
(Aviation Security) Order 1991 stipulates:
“Any dispute between two or more contracting states concerning the
interpretation and application of this Convention which cannot be
settled through negotiation, shall, at the request of one of them, be
submitted to arbitration. If within 6 months from the date of request
for arbitration the parties are unable to agree on the organization
of
the arbitration, any of those parties may refer the dispute to the
International Court of Justice by request in conformity with the
statute of the Court.”
Your Honor,
If Ly Tong’s Extradition Case will not be acquitted in due time so
that he can get back to the United States of America with vindication
and Justice we have no other choice but to apply Article 14 as the
last resort to save the world-renowned Freedom Fighter and a
resistance icon not only of people in Vietnam but also of the
oppressed and exploited all over the world.
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Order Name Profession and
office Present
address
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1.
Aloysius Duy Hung Hoang Attorney and Counselors Hoang &
Associates
At Law
1900 N. Loop West #500
2. Teresa Ngoc Hoang id
Houston, TX 77018 –
USA
3. Dean Huckabee
id Tel: 713-600-3700
4. Jo Nelson
id Fax: 713-600-3705
5. Robert Fuentes id
E-mail:
Law500...@yahoo.com
6. Nguyen Van Dai Lawyer, Thien An Law Office 10 Doan
Tran Nghiep
Ha
Noi, Vietnam
Tel: 844-213-2220
E-mail:
lawyerda...@gmail.com
7. Sam Nguyen Attorney and Counselors at Law
Australia
E-mail:
sn.barris...@optusnet.com.au
8. Le Trong Quat id
France
E-
mail:vr_foundat...@yahoo.com
9. Nguyen Ba Dai
id Australia
E-mail:
adn...@bigpond.net.au
10. Nguyen Suu
id England
E-mail:
nguyensu...@yahoo.co.uk
11. Dao Tang Duc Solicitor of the Supreme Court
Australia
of New South Wales, Australia
E-mail: thanh...@optusnet.com.au
12. Vu Khanh Toan Trainee Solicitor, London
32
Woodberry Grove
London N4 1SN.
E-
mail: anvie...@aol.com
13. Trinh Quoc Thien Attorney and Counselors at Law
Washington
D.C. -
USA
E-mail: q...@yahoo.com
14. Le T.A. Ngọc Administrator
Maastricht - Nederland
E-
mail: n...@hetnet.nl
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San Jose, March 9, 2007
Ngoan Le
Committee to Suport Ly Tong’s Fighting Spirit
(Đã được Notary)
Ai no'i no' la` lo'do+ ?
L/S co' nghi~a la` lu.c su+.
L/S co' nghi~a la` lu.c sie^.t
L/S co' nghi~a la` lie^'m so`
L/S co' nghi~a la` l... sa(n
L/S co' nghi~a la` lick so`
L/S co' nghi~a la` lie^'m sie^.t
L/S co' nghi~a la` ...
....
Prove it man!
Con co' bie^'t ca'i gi` dda^u ma` noi' leo, no'i la'o ! ;-)))
Dda^y la` ddi.nh nghi~a ve^` nghe^` Solicitor aka. Lawyer o+? Anh,
U'c, Hong Kong.
Co`n muo^'n tro+? tha`nh Solicitor Trainee thi` pha?i la` Solicitor
aka. Lawyer (co' law degree).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solicitor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trainee_solicitor
QTTT
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prostitute solicitor
Tru*o*'c he^'t o^ng cu~ng bie^'t o^ng la` ngu*o*`i gia` ma` o^ng go.i
to^i ba(`ng Bo^' thi` cu~ng ho*i ky` vi` tui cu~ng co`n che? la('m!
Mi`nh no'i chuye^.n li.ch su*. nhu* gentlemen thi` to^'t ho*n, co`n
o^ng nghi~ o^ng la` da^n lua^.t su* du -da?ng thi` tui -da~ no'i you
know what to do!
Thu*' 2, o^ng no'i mi`nh la` lead attorney thi` o^ng cho case # cho
thie^n ha. (tui tha^'y co' va`i ngu*o*`i ho?i) -de^? ho. du`ng pacer
search ca'i case. Ne^'u o^ng o/ bie^'t pacer la` gi` thi` ho?i o*? -
da^y se? co' ngu*o*`i chi?. Tui muo^'n bie^'t o^ng -da~ "la`m/
contributed" nhu*~ng gi` cho ca'i case na^`y (mu*o*'n ngu*o*`i kha'c
researched case materials giu`m hay vie^'t tie^'ng Anh giu`m do not
count!)
Co`n o^ng ngon nu*~a thi` scan le^n nhu*~ng gi` o^ng -da~ vie^'t
(recorded in court) cho ca'i case na^`y (giu'p cho $50-$100 tie^`n tem
+ recording cost, bie^n te^n tre^n ca'i list o/ co' ti'nh; nghe no'i
#13 cu~ng xui la('m ma` lead sao la.i na(`m tuo^'t luo^'t o*?
du*o*'i :o).
Co`n o^ng no'i o^ng la` ngu*o*`i lua^.t su* vo^ -di.ch specialized
ve^` anti-terrorism/deportation, hay ho*n ca? bao nhie^u nga`n lua^.t
su* My~, o^ng co' the^? cho bie^'t the^m ve^` nhu*~ng samples
(writing), cases in which you have served as an expert witness on the
topic, or transcripts of speeches you have given, as a guest speaker
at law universities, or on American radio or TV programs?
Co`n va^'n -de^` lua^.t su* can -da?m nha^'t nhi` tre^n nu*o*'c My~
thi` thie^.t ti`nh ma` no'i, tre^n nu*o*'c My~ na^`y nga`y -de^m
kho^ng bie^'t co' bao nhie^u ngu*o*`i lua^.t su*. la`m vie^.c tu*`
thie^.n giu'p -do*? victims, human trafficking, political prosecution,
child labor.... va^.y ma` o^ng la` ngu*o*`i lua^.t su* can -da?m
nha^'t nhi` thi` o^ng co' the^? share vo*'i scvers nhu*~ng ca'i awards
gi` gi`...o^ng -da~ tu*`ng nha^.n... vi` to^i chu*a bao gio*` tha^'y
te^n/hi`nh cu?a o^ng trong ba'o hay tv My~ va` nhu*~ng ngu*o*`i -
du*o*.c regconized thi` tui co' tha^'y hi`nh cu?a ho.
Va` co`n va^'n -de^` can -da?m tre^n scv thi` tui ba?o -da?m o^ng o/
co' trong top ten! hehe...
* Believing that you're better than others
* Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
* Exaggerating your achievements or talents
* Expecting constant praise and admiration
* Believing that you're special
* Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
* Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
* Taking advantage of others
* Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
* Being jealous of others
* Believing that others are jealous of you
* Trouble keeping healthy relationships
* Setting unrealistic goals
* Being easily hurt and rejected
* Having a fragile self-esteem
* Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
Xin cho bie^'t te^n, ddi.a chi?, so^' phone, thu+ ky' cu?a to^i se~ go
+?i ta`i lie^.u dde^'n.
QTTT
Ke^u co^ thu* ky' scans he^'t docs ro^`i upload vo^ -da^y "http://www.
4shared.com/login.jsp" -de^? cho nhu*~ng ngu*o*`i o/ co' access to
(paid) legal search system -de^? ho. -do.c. Post case # cu~ng -
du*o*.c. -Da^y la` public forum; -dang discuss public issue. Ne^'u
make claims thi` pha?i provide proof for verification!
Thanks!
>On May 26, 9:05 am, TrinhQuocTh...@gmail.com wrote:
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Va(n pho`ng cu?a QTTT la` ca'i P.O. Box ddo' ma` !
Thu* ki' la` ba` Mi~ dden ma^.p mailwoman
:)))
Thanks ! :)