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Frank Kalder

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Jul 30, 2006, 4:16:18 AM7/30/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>

Hi Marika,

coincidentally with your move to Roanoke (Virginia), I renewed our
multicultural blog since the precedent's got too large in a sense
that it caused frequent system breakdowns or, at least, regularly
extensive performance blockades at uploading (on my part).


[L.M.]

> he's a gentleman who is considerably younger than i/. he is
> trying to find a girlfriend, and i will be glad to
> introduce him to the daughters of many of my friends
>
I wish you & him good luck to get it achieved!

> testing hopefully this stupid thing won't crash but looks ok so far
> except for the weird spaces
>
> first day shopping and i ran across one of my
> contractors who i have had season tickets to
> theater with all this time, and my ticket has been used
> by others in my a b s e n c e
>
>
> ---- I supposed this is another reason ... without good
> reason, I've never broken any professional bridges, if
> I was allowed not to. .
>
> >
> > For about 2 weeks now, we've got an extremely high temperature (~38°C
> > / ~100F). While such is unusual in this part of Europe, we all feel
> > pretty much "down" (sort of brainless and without any power, trying
> > to keep the circulation as dampened as possible).
> >
>
>
> and your wal-mart is dampened too
>

Yeah, apparently they did not succeed in the German market and gave up
after 8½ years:
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING_Deutsch/msg/1aa99773896e4d90?&hl=en


More pertinent info (in English):
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/15148723.htm

>

You may know that the RIESLING [from the Rheingau (Rhine area)] is one
the most appreciated and internationally best known wines of Germany.
The "soul" of the Rheingau, Tatiana Princess of
Metternich-Winneburg (91) (born as a price's daughter St. Petersburg)
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING_Deutsch/msg/b3b1b824855aca9f?&hl=en
has died a few days ago. But, at this mournful occasion, you may enjoy
the pics of SCHLOSS JOHANNISBERG, though (English version available,
too).


>

CU, Frank

--
www.haplif.de & www.haplif.de/61820.html [politics & economics]
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-GOVERNANCE [global vs. regional]
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-DESIGNER-FASHION [worldwide]
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING [international]

marika

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Aug 1, 2006, 7:20:17 AM8/1/06
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google and the computer are not reliable but as it was ok today, i was
thinking of my brother in law
as he celebrates an important birthday this month
and was reminded that he used to call me a squidologist
and that i was going to go visit him when his town featured the world
largest squid\
but now, there is an even larger one

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/04/0423_030423_seamonsters.html

Frank Kalder

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Aug 2, 2006, 2:14:54 AM8/2/06
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That's really colossal, giant and tremendous :)

I've made a continuation reference
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/8dfbac57775e6fb1?&hl=en
at our meanwhile out-dated squid blog today.

marika

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Aug 2, 2006, 9:38:36 AM8/2/06
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Frank Kalder wrote:>
> That's really colossal, giant and tremendous :)
>
> I've made a continuation reference
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/8dfbac57775e6fb1?&hl=en
> at our meanwhile out-dated squid blog today.
>
>


it's easy to get addicted to squid.

perhaps this one will travel to a different city for me to visit

Frank Kalder

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Aug 3, 2006, 1:55:24 AM8/3/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > ... our meanwhile out-dated squid blog ...

> >
> >
> it's easy to get addicted to squid.
>
O yeah - let's squid again :)

> perhaps this one will travel to a different city for me to visit
>

Which city or what do you have pertinently in mind?
>
>
>

[Jessica Christie, Cape Town]

Here are some pictures of my teenage South African relative:
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-DESIGNER-FASHION/msg/d8c838c89a1448b3


As I mentioned recently, she sent me another set of very beautiful
photos by e-mail. Although she's agreed that I present them within
the Haplif.net I was, meanwhile, (technically) unable to do so. Thus,
I'm waiting for another set in a suitable format, maybe, around next
week.

marika

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Aug 3, 2006, 9:22:25 AM8/3/06
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Frank Kalder wrote:
> marika wrote:
> > Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > ... our meanwhile out-dated squid blog ...
> > >
> > >
> > it's easy to get addicted to squid.
> >
> O yeah - let's squid again :)

'let's squid again, like we did last summer'. that was a big hit by
chubby checker
squid addiction is real.

about 2000 and before, us restaurants on the east coast barely ever
carried this product. except for the occasional authentic italian
restaurant this is why my brother in law called me a squidologist,
because every time we would go out to eat i would look first if there
was squid on the menu.

then in 2001 i went to vancouver and noticed it was pretty common

i asked the waiters and they said it was very inexpensive product,
costing just pennies on the pound and a byproduct of other fishing.
consequently, restaurants there carried it without much ado.

then about 2 years later, the trend caught on easterly.
now i have plenty of it in the big cities. i doubt it will be as
common here in roanoke though


>
> > perhaps this one will travel to a different city for me to visit
> >
> Which city or what do you have pertinently in mind?

well the big guy visited ny before. the newer and better squid should
visit more inland cities who may not be blessed with aquariums and
ocean. roanoke is a good example.

places where the population meter doesn't really register very high

Never mind those affluent idiots that name a place something that there
is none o. eg Peachtree City that has no peaches, Willow Road with no
willow trees, and so on

roanoke means money in some aboriginal tongue, and there is no money
here

the wordl is full of stupidities. why not add huge squid

Frank Kalder

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Aug 4, 2006, 1:50:01 AM8/4/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > O yeah - let's squid again :)
>
> 'let's squid again, like we did last summer'. that was a big hit by
> chubby checker
> squid addiction is real.
>
http://www.chubbychecker.com/bio.asp
http://www.chubbycheckersnacks.com/index1.htm

Evidently, an excellent business idea :)

> about 2000 and before, us restaurants on the east coast barely ever
> carried this product. except for the occasional authentic italian
> restaurant this is why my brother in law called me a squidologist,
> because every time we would go out to eat i would look first if there
> was squid on the menu.
>
> then in 2001 i went to vancouver and noticed it was pretty common
>
> i asked the waiters and they said it was very inexpensive product,
> costing just pennies on the pound and a byproduct of other fishing.
> consequently, restaurants there carried it without much ado.
>
> then about 2 years later, the trend caught on easterly.
> now i have plenty of it in the big cities. i doubt it will be as
> common here in roanoke though
> >
> > > perhaps this one will travel to a different city for me to visit
> > >
> > Which city or what do you have pertinently in mind?
>
> well the big guy visited ny before. the newer and better squid should
> visit more inland cities who may not be blessed with aquariums and
> ocean. roanoke is a good example.
>
> places where the population meter doesn't really register very high
>
> Never mind those affluent idiots that name a place something that there
> is none o. eg Peachtree City that has no peaches, Willow Road with no
> willow trees, and so on
>
> roanoke means money in some aboriginal tongue, and there is no money
> here
>

> the world is full of stupidities. why not add huge squid
>
>
A very nice *squid story*! Loved it :)

In Europe, be it in Paris or Frankfurt, we have fresh seafood from the
Atlantic and the Mediterranean Sea every day. The restaurant's stuff
shows up daily in the tremendous "mart halls" early in the morning
to buy those goods which came overnight by fridge trucks ('cold
chain'). Thus, in all the 'gourmet temples' of the major cities
(with a metropolis status), we're getting fresh fish, squids and
oysters throughout Europe.

www.visitroanokeva.com/DisplayInfo.asp?Topic=104

Why is there, in your opinion, in Roanoke "no money"?

marika

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Aug 4, 2006, 12:23:44 PM8/4/06
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Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
> A very nice *squid story*! Loved it :)
>
> In Europe, be it in Paris or Frankfurt, we have fresh seafood from the
> Atlantic and the Mediterranean Sea every day. The restaurant's stuff
> shows up daily in the tremendous "mart halls" early in the morning
> to buy those goods which came overnight by fridge trucks ('cold
> chain'). Thus, in all the 'gourmet temples' of the major cities
> (with a metropolis status), we're getting fresh fish, squids and
> oysters throughout Europe.
>

lucky'

> www.visitroanokeva.com/DisplayInfo.asp?Topic=104

when i first read this link's name, i thought it was a slavic word


>
> Why is there, in your opinion, in Roanoke "no money"?
>
>

some brief history
roanoke is considered to be part of appalachia, which is considered a
very poor part of the us.

most roanokers are proud to associate themselves with the appalachian
culture and traditions which foreigners often associate with such
things as the word hillbilly and blue grass music.

roanoke used to be a trading post with the aboriginals, and thus it
took on that name, but it never kept the money there, but rather the
traders sent the trade and cash back home.

roanoke's name during this time was big lick. it was a place where the
traders let the livestock stop and consume salt. although i have never
actually seen any salt mines here

roanoke did not join 18th century progress until late in that century
when the railroad came through and established a depot.

as train usage diminished nationwide so too did it in roanoke, and the
economy went down again. in fact, there has not been a train station
for passengers in roanoke in decades, in spite of its heritage as a
very large train crossroads and in spite of having a transportation
museum with old trains in it, there is nothing but a few freight tracks
that pass through. the nearest passenger station is about an hour
away,

in the 1900s as late as the 70s or 80s, when a homeless or vagrant or
hobo was arrested in virginia, a judge would decide not to put them in
jail, but felt it would be cheaper for the government to give the
person a bus ticket to keep trouble out of their town. the destination
was inevitably roanoke. that contributed to social and welfare problems
in the city.

at one time roanoke was the beneficiary of some financial improvements,
in that it housed a few textile mills. dying and knitting mostly.
this economic activity stopped in the 80s. all the mills had gone
bankrupt and closed. some tried brief periods of resuscitation but
eventually sold off all their equipment to costa rican mills that now
produce cotton products for the us at far lower prices.

i have been at a loss to determine what fuels the current economy. for
the past 15 years, i have seen nothing really that defines the economy
of this town. the typical person works two part time jobs and has no
benefits, such as medical insurance.

my conclusion is that the major real estate development, financial
investment funds and employment are provided by the churches in the
area. primarily the baptist network. roanoke is, after all, only
about 40 minutes drive from lynchburg where the infamous Jerry Falwell
has his Liberty university. that's a different city altogether of
course.

that is the place where presidential candidate John Mccain recently
delivered a commencement speech a few years after calling jerry a
racist hatemonger.

i think you will agree that an economy that is dependent on a church
network is one that is poor. sure there's money, but if it's primarily
residing in the church coffers, there's no real economy, planning or
development. to be further negative, it is primarily exploitation.

while i am not as vehement about religious issues as you, i think you
can discern why i never will truly feel a part of this community. i
have very little in common with this culture and it has never fully
accepted me.

mk5000

42nd Street Soundtrack Lyrics - Shuffle Off To Buffalo Lyrics

Bert:
Now that we have had the rice and flowers,
The knot is tied;

Annie:
I can visu'lize such happy hours,
Close by your side.
The honeymoon in store
Is one that you'll adore,
I'm gonna take you for a ride.

Annie, Bert, Maggie and Girls:
I'll (You'll) go home and get my panties,
You (I'll) go home and get your scanties,
And away we'll go.
Mm mm mm...
Off we're gonna shuffle,
Shuffle off to Buffalo.

To Niag'ra in a sleeper,
There's no honeymoon that's cheaper,
And the train goes slow.
Ooh ooh ooh!
Off, we're gonna shuffle,
Shuffle off to Buffalo.

Someday, the stork may pay a visit
And leave a little souvenir.
Just a little cute "what is it,"
But we'll discuss that later, dear.

For a little silver quarter,
We can have the pull man porter
Turn the lights down low.
Ooh!
Off we're gonna shuffle,
Shuffle off to Buffalo.

You'll go home and get your purses,
I'll go get my niece and nurses,
And away we'll go.
Mm mm mm...
Off we're gonna shuffle,
Shuffle off to Buffalo.

To Niag'ra in a sleeper,
There's no honeymoon that's cheaper,
And the train goes slow.
Ooh ooh ooh!
Off, we're gonna shuffle,
Shuffle off to Buffalo.

Someday, the stork may pay a visit
And leave a little souvenir.
Just a little cute "what is it,"
But we'll discuss that later, dear.

For a little silver quarter,
We can have the pull man porter
Turn the lights down low.
Ooh!
Off we're gonna shuffle,
Shuffle off to Buffalo.

Matrimony is baloney
She'll be wanting alimony
In a year of so
Still they go and shuffle
Shuffle Off to Buffalo
When she knows as much as we know
She'll be on her way to Reno
While he still has dough
She'll give him the Shuffle
When they're back from Buffalo

Frank Kalder

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Aug 5, 2006, 3:37:44 AM8/5/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> > >
> > >
>
> > www.visitroanokeva.com/DisplayInfo.asp?Topic=104
>
> when i first read this link's name, i thought it was a slavic word
> >
Yeah, because of the *va :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Falwell

I read it partly and, thus, know what you mean.

>
> that is the place where presidential candidate John Mccain recently
> delivered a commencement speech a few years after calling jerry a
> racist hatemonger.
>
> i think you will agree that an economy that is dependent on a church
> network is one that is poor. sure there's money, but if it's primarily
> residing in the church coffers, there's no real economy, planning or
> development. to be further negative, it is primarily exploitation.
>
> while i am not as vehement about religious issues as you, i think you
> can discern why i never will truly feel a part of this community. i
> have very little in common with this culture and it has never fully
> accepted me.
>

Wow, thanks a lot! That's an impressive historic review. I agree to
your thoughts on the origin of the poorness (poor network).

Yet, meanwhile, I found some contradictory (official) statements.

"Roanoke County is a progressive, growing community nestled in the
heart of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Dedicated to promoting a high
quality of life, the County boasts breathtaking mountain vistas, the
friendliness and charm of a small town, and the municipal services,
cultural amenities, and recreational opportunities of a bustling
city." www.roanokecountyva.gov

"... Roanoke County -
consistently named one of the country's best places to live and
work!"

It's already been an "award-winning county" :)
with an "abundance of cultural amenities".

|| The Roanoke Valley is the largest metropolitan area in western
Virginia. A growing multinational business base including companies
from Denmark, Japan, Canada, Mexico, Greece, Italy, Germany, Scotland
and France strengthens the region's international presence and
desirability. With a Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA) population of
nearly 240,000 people, Roanoke County is small enough to call home and
large enough to meet the needs of any growing business. As a result,
the area offers:

- Specialized services and institutions capable of dealing with
international issues,
- a large and skilled workforce of more than 338,000 people within a
60-mile radius of the Roanoke Valley,
- an active international trade association and Technology Council,
- a high quality transportation system, reaching a majority of the
nation's population within one day.

The mission of the Roanoke County Department of Economic Development is
to design and implement innovative economic development programs and
services that leverage community assets, create wealth and prosperity,
and embrace the region's future. The department's commitment to
locating new technology based businesses and high tech manufacturing
operations, as well as aiding in the retention and expansion of our
existing industries, enhances the livability and vitality of an already
award-winning county.|| www.yesroanoke.com/docs/index.htm


>
> 42nd Street Soundtrack Lyrics - Shuffle Off To Buffalo Lyrics
>

[...]
>
Very nice lyrics :)
I'd guess, not particularly from Roanoke, though, as they deal with
Buffalo and Niagara? Although, buffalos are perhaps around there, too,
similarly to Kentucky (which you reported on last year)!

marika

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Aug 5, 2006, 11:23:36 AM8/5/06
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Frank, as partly illustration for why things can be misleading.
Roanoke, the city, is not in the County of Roanoke. The county can
boast all sorts of things the city cannot. Because the county is
residential and has the better schools and all the vistas

Many of the county residents drive from their lovely vista homes to
work in the city, which while small,has all the trappings of a classic
city. that is, lack of lovely vistas

I have mentioned this in the past, but there is virtually no public
transportation in the county. It is possible to travel within the city
by bus, but the coverage is slim and infrequent. Promises of economic
opportunities notwithstanding, if you can't get your workers to work,
why bother locating industry in an area. With gas prices that now
won't have the chance of offseting the low wage, lower than national
average, any business that thought of coming won't. it's only
relatively small enterprises that might do so, that might pay a
slightly better wage. eg small engineering research firms. in my 15
years there, i have seen several large companies make bids of interest
and then walk away from the deal because of the many problems i
mention.

the friendliness here is a myth by the way. it is very difficult to
meet people. if you have not grown up here, it is noted. the people
here associate primarily based on high school allegiances. natives
with different cultures, accents and appearances are treated entirely
like outsiders. lester who grew up here has had difficulties too. at
least somewhat because he thinks differently, even if he is recognized
as a native. i recently had a discussion with a roanoke expatriate
from my office who moved permanently to dc. she didn't grow up in
roanoke either, but came as i did, in hopes of gaining experience in a
smaller town and taking it to a bigger place. her only word for
roanoke was cold. can't just be my observation then.

The so called recreational opportunities include hiking and drinking
beer at night. o and drinking beer at minor league baseball games.
see the movie bull durham. our team is in the same league.

most of the cultural opportunities are hilarious. in the city, there
is a history museum, a transportation museum and an art museum. i enjoy
reading the panels under the exhibits. these are characterized by
amusing misspellings. hey i'm guilty too, but i can't see well, have a
crappy keyboard and don;t care that my usenet stuff is misspelled. but
if you are going to sell the rest of the world on your culture, do it
right,

the theater is pretty good. the opera is not the best. it's performed
in an old high school auditorium with scarily bad acoustics. the
ballet is the worst. 12-14 year olds. once in a while they get an
adult with dreams and no skills. oh my god. comedy.. my friend who
shall remain nameless was one of those adults. he played the part of
prince charming and not knowing his own strength, when required to
throw the little princess as ballet often requires this little subtle
move, hurled her clean across the stage. thank god she was only
stunned not damaged. he wasn't aloud to touch the ballerinas after
that.


r


> "... Roanoke County -
> consistently named one of the country's best places to live and
> work!"
>
> It's already been an "award-winning county" :)
> with an "abundance of cultural amenities".
>
> || The Roanoke Valley is the largest metropolitan area in western
> Virginia. A growing

i have a friend who is a professional economist whose specialty for the
last 30 years has been smsas and governmental entities. she has noted
repeatedly to me that roanoke experienes growth but very small growth.

note that the website does not tell you what the growth has been or
how they measure it

>multinational business base including companies
> from Denmark, Japan, Canada, Mexico, Greece, Italy, Germany, Scotland
> and France strengthens the region's international presence and
> desirability. With a Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA) population of
> nearly 240,000 people,

this is probably based on the 2000 census. smsa has a definition that
can include a lot more territory than is fair.

for instance, ny may have x million inhabitants, but the smsa includes
nj and connecticut.

roanoke county and city added up may equall about 100,000
or not.
depends on what has happened between the 200000 census and today.

>Roanoke County is small enough to call home and
> large enough to meet the needs of any growing business. As a result,
> the area offers:
>
> - Specialized services and institutions capable of dealing with
> international issues,
> - a large and skilled workforce of more than 338,000 people within a
> 60-mile radius of the Roanoke Valley,
> - an active international trade association and Technology Council,
> - a high quality transportation system, reaching a majority of the
> nation's population within one day.
>

starting with the falsehood of a quality transportation system, the
rest of it is advertising as well.
the bit about transportation is true if you include car rental in the
consideration.

i wonder what skills these are/
i remember writing to some teachers in this town for different work
reasons. the letters i received back from them were astonishingly
illiterate, not in standard english, never mind that they were not in
standard business english.

even the newspaper writers here have trouble with standard english.
the good ones move on to more successful papers.

when someone with no skills judges someone else with the same lack of
or fewer skills, of course the perception will be that the individual
is skilled.

if they mean carpentry and plumbing are skills, that is fine, but they
also tell you that they are trying to attract technology and
international trade.

those types of skills are not what such enterprises look for.

also, appreciation for foreign language is almost nonexistent.

if i wanted to bring an exsoviet concern here, i would nix the idea
immediately. the lack of openmindedness would make my work force
unwelcome. i could not find the support necessary to attract my
employees here.

> The mission of the Roanoke County Department of Economic Development is
> to design and implement innovative economic development programs and
> services that leverage community assets, create wealth and prosperity,
> and embrace the region's future.

yes that's their mission and i bet they are paid handsomely for it, and
i guarantee you that the boons and favors and magnets are all directed
at the church.

>The department's commitment to
> locating new technology based businesses and high tech manufacturing
> operations, as well as aiding in the retention and expansion of our
> existing industries, enhances the livability and vitality of an already
> award-winning county.|| www.yesroanoke.com/docs/index.htm
> >


tehnology hahahah
very funny. Whoops -- I'm hallucinating.

that's lester's field and he has not been able to get a decent job
even with a pile of certifications. he routinely works second jobs to
survive. which is why you don't see him posting all that often.

this is mere advertising. obviously savvy business people have not
fallen for it thus far.

they might get a few more businesses interested if they add a few
blonds in bikinis.

> > 42nd Street Soundtrack Lyrics - Shuffle Off To Buffalo Lyrics
> >
> [...]
> >
> Very nice lyrics :)
> I'd guess, not particularly from Roanoke, though, as they deal with
> Buffalo and Niagara? Although, buffalos are perhaps around there, too,
> similarly to Kentucky (which you reported on last year)!
>

another example of a city that is named after something that is not
there.

note also the railroad references which remind me of roanoke.

marika

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marika wrote:

> >
> > "Roanoke County is a progressive, growing community nestled in the
> > heart of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Dedicated to promoting a high
> > quality of life, the County boasts breathtaking mountain vistas, the
> > friendliness and charm of a small town, and the municipal services,
> > cultural amenities,


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.wash-redskins/browse_frm/thread/b8c8df161353128/70cff1db5ec9d3d1?lnk=st&q=&rnum=18&hl=en#70cff1db5ec9d3d1

this was the only one i could find right now, but if i find more in my
journal, i'll post them

here are some other characteristic posts

http://groups.google.com/group/roanoke.news-talk/browse_frm/thread/ce20b3638b374f75/82c89a1bcbdf6dc1?lnk=st&q=&rnum=4&hl=en#82c89a1bcbdf6dc1

Frank Kalder

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Aug 6, 2006, 2:49:26 AM8/6/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>
> > Wow, thanks a lot! That's an impressive historic review. I agree to
> > your thoughts on the origin of the poorness (poor network).
> >
> > Yet, meanwhile, I found some contradictory (official) statements.
> >
> > "Roanoke County is a progressive, growing community nestled in the
> > heart of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Dedicated to promoting a high
> > quality of life, the County boasts breathtaking mountain vistas, the
> > friendliness and charm of a small town, and the municipal services,
> > cultural amenities, and recreational opportunities of a bustling
> > city." www.roanokecountyva.gov
> >
>
> Frank, as partly illustration for why things can be misleading.
> Roanoke, the city, is not in the County of Roanoke. The county can
> boast all sorts of things the city cannot. Because the county is
> residential and has the better schools and all the vistas
>
> Many of the county residents drive from their lovely vista homes to
> work in the city, which while small, has all the trappings of a classic

> city. that is, lack of lovely vistas
>
Ah, yes!

> I have mentioned this in the past, but there is virtually no public
> transportation in the county. It is possible to travel within the city
> by bus, but the coverage is slim and infrequent. Promises of economic
> opportunities notwithstanding, if you can't get your workers to work,
> why bother locating industry in an area. With gas prices that now
> won't have the chance of offseting the low wage, lower than national
> average, any business that thought of coming won't. it's only
> relatively small enterprises that might do so, that might pay a
> slightly better wage. eg small engineering research firms. in my 15
> years there, i have seen several large companies make bids of interest
> and then walk away from the deal because of the many problems i
> mention.
>
> the friendliness here is a myth by the way. it is very difficult to
> meet people. if you have not grown up here, it is noted. the people
> here associate primarily based on high school allegiances. natives
> with different cultures, accents and appearances are treated entirely
> like outsiders. lester who grew up here has had difficulties too. at
> least somewhat because he thinks differently, even if he is recognized
> as a native. i recently had a discussion with a roanoke expatriate
> from my office who moved permanently to dc. she didn't grow up in
> roanoke either, but came as i did, in hopes of gaining experience in a
> smaller town and taking it to a bigger place. her only word for
> roanoke was cold. can't just be my observation then.
>

I keep faith with you both.

> The so called recreational opportunities include hiking and drinking
> beer at night. o and drinking beer at minor league baseball games.
> see the movie bull durham. our team is in the same league.
>
> most of the cultural opportunities are hilarious. in the city, there
> is a history museum, a transportation museum and an art museum. i enjoy
> reading the panels under the exhibits. these are characterized by
> amusing misspellings. hey i'm guilty too, but i can't see well, have a
> crappy keyboard and don't care that my usenet stuff is misspelled. but
> if you are going to sell the rest of the world on your culture, do it

> right.
>
O, you won't have to be "guilty" - never ever!


> the theater is pretty good. the opera is not the best. it's performed
> in an old high school auditorium with scarily bad acoustics. the
> ballet is the worst. 12-14 year olds. once in a while they get an
> adult with dreams and no skills. oh my god. comedy.. my friend who
> shall remain nameless was one of those adults. he played the part of
> prince charming and not knowing his own strength, when required to
> throw the little princess as ballet often requires this little subtle
> move, hurled her clean across the stage. thank god she was only
> stunned not damaged. he wasn't aloud to touch the ballerinas after
> that.
>

Sort of funny, though... :)


>
>
> > "... Roanoke County -
> > consistently named one of the country's best places to live and
> > work!"
> >
> > It's already been an "award-winning county" :)
> > with an "abundance of cultural amenities".
> >
> > || The Roanoke Valley is the largest metropolitan area in western
> > Virginia. A growing
>
> i have a friend who is a professional economist whose specialty for the
> last 30 years has been smsas and governmental entities. she has noted
> repeatedly to me that roanoke experienes growth but very small growth.
>

Ah!


>
> note that the website does not tell you what the growth has been or
> how they measure it
>
> >multinational business base including companies
> > from Denmark, Japan, Canada, Mexico, Greece, Italy, Germany, Scotland
> > and France strengthens the region's international presence and
> > desirability. With a Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA) population of
> > nearly 240,000 people,
>
> this is probably based on the 2000 census. smsa has a definition that
> can include a lot more territory than is fair.
>

- SMSA = Standard Metropolitan Statistical Area -


>
> for instance, ny may have x million inhabitants, but the smsa includes
> nj and connecticut.
>

> roanoke county and city added up may equal about 100,000
> or not.
> depends on what has happened between the 2000 census and today.
>

The R. County is about that large as (in Germany) Hesse's capital
Wiesbaden - with 270,000 inhabitants. Whereas its inner (traditional)
city has about half of it, the official township boundaries were
extended in recent years so that it comprises nowadays all peripheral
smaller villages as suburbs under one municipal administration and same
zip-code starting digits.

> >Roanoke County is small enough to call home and
> > large enough to meet the needs of any growing business. As a result,
> > the area offers:
> >
> > - Specialized services and institutions capable of dealing with
> > international issues,
> > - a large and skilled workforce of more than 338,000 people within a
> > 60-mile radius of the Roanoke Valley,
> > - an active international trade association and Technology Council,
> > - a high quality transportation system, reaching a majority of the
> > nation's population within one day.
> >
>
> starting with the falsehood of a quality transportation system, the
> rest of it is advertising as well.
> the bit about transportation is true if you include car rental in the
> consideration.
>

ACK.

> technology hahahah


> very funny. Whoops -- I'm hallucinating.
>

Thanks for the enjoyable articles and stuff in your second
yesterday's post!


> that's lester's field and he has not been able to get a decent job
> even with a pile of certifications. he routinely works second jobs to
> survive. which is why you don't see him posting all that often.
>

I got it - and you may say him occasionally my regards...

> this is mere advertising. obviously savvy business people have not
> fallen for it thus far.
>

>From far, it does look good (on their websites).
But, perhaps showing around and doing some analysis (like you did it
here), they will get that sort of savvy insight.

> they might get a few more businesses interested if they add a few
> blonds in bikinis.
>

It might help. Sex sells!
But the Baptists & Co. won't allow it, of course :(

> > > 42nd Street Soundtrack Lyrics - Shuffle Off To Buffalo Lyrics
> > >
> > [...]
> > >
> > Very nice lyrics :)
> > I'd guess, not particularly from Roanoke, though, as they deal with
> > Buffalo and Niagara? Although, buffalos are perhaps around there, too,
> > similarly to Kentucky (which you reported on last year)!
> >
>
> another example of a city that is named after something that is not
> there.
>
> note also the railroad references which remind me of roanoke.
>

Got the context :)

marika

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Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> >
> >From far, it does look good (on their websites).
> But, perhaps showing around and doing some analysis (like you did it
> here), they will get that sort of savvy insight.
>

you might remember that i have a degree in urban studies, so that the
precepts of such planning remain in my head even if i haven't actually
practiced. lester and others argue about this continually in that
group but i haven't seen the city become an savvier

> > they might get a few more businesses interested if they add a few
> > blonds in bikinis.
> >
> It might help. Sex sells!
> But the Baptists & Co. won't allow it, of course :(

you got it. in fact, i have watched them close down anything even
remotely sexy year after year. the code words quality of life
translates to no sex in roanoke baptist. because o my god, your kids
might find out about it. as if every record and tv show doesn't openly
show at the very least double entendres.

virginia itself is very puritanical. there is a holdover in that they
cannot own bars here. you can only own a restaurant that serves
alcohol.

ridiculous

in the meantime, here's a link to the ballet

http://www.roanokeballet.org/index.php

the blue guys are not the blue man group, but the previously mentioned
nascar autos.

and yes, when my friend lobbed the little girl across the stage, it was
funny except maybe for the little girl.
he brought his girlfriend and her two kids to the showing. they were
about 5 and 7

they were so disruptive

they kept screaming things like o my god there he is on stage or hello
hello trying to get his attention during the performance

the strangest part was that when the little boy wasn't screaming, he
would turn around in his seat. i was sitting in back of him in one of
those auditoriums with graduated seating, where the next row is higher
than the previous. every time he would turn around, he would chew on
my knees.

very strange performance, and experience and very ridiculous and
surreal as most of my roanoke experiences have been thus far

Frank Kalder

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Aug 7, 2006, 2:47:30 AM8/7/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >From far, it does look good (on their websites).
> > But, perhaps showing around and doing some analysis (like you did it
> > here), they will get that sort of savvy insight.
>
> you might remember that i have a degree in urban studies, so that the
> precepts of such planning remain in my head even if i haven't actually
> practiced. lester and others argue about this continually in that
> group but i haven't seen the city become any savvier
>
Yes, I do remember this (always!).
I meant the savvy business people (who don't come in, for big
investments, though). But, could you (maybe) assist 'them' /for
good money/ that the CITY as such will become any savvier?

> > > they might get a few more businesses interested if they add a few
> > > blonds in bikinis.
> > >
> > It might help. Sex sells!
> > But the Baptists & Co. won't allow it, of course :(
>
> you got it. in fact, i have watched them close down anything even
> remotely sexy year after year. the code words quality of life
> translates to no sex in roanoke baptist. because o my god, your kids
> might find out about it. as if every record and tv show doesn't openly
> show at the very least double entendres.
>
> virginia itself is very puritanical. there is a holdover in that they
> cannot own bars here. you can only own a restaurant that serves
> alcohol.
>
> ridiculous
>

Yeah, indeed!

> in the meantime, here's a link to the ballet
>
> http://www.roanokeballet.org/index.php
>
> the blue guys are not the blue man group, but the previously mentioned
> nascar autos.
>
> and yes, when my friend lobbed the little girl across the stage, it was
> funny except maybe for the little girl.
> he brought his girlfriend and her two kids to the showing. they were
> about 5 and 7
>
> they were so disruptive
>
> they kept screaming things like o my god there he is on stage or hello
> hello trying to get his attention during the performance
>
> the strangest part was that when the little boy wasn't screaming, he
> would turn around in his seat. i was sitting in back of him in one of
> those auditoriums with graduated seating, where the next row is higher
> than the previous. every time he would turn around, he would chew on
> my knees.
>
> very strange performance, and experience and very ridiculous and
> surreal as most of my roanoke experiences have been thus far
>

This ballet got even some Russian stuff and formerly this guest
|| Svetlana Todinova
(2005 Swan Lake Intensive Guest Artist)
A dynamic teacher with a specialty in pedagogy and repertory for
children, Svetlana Todinova, is the Moscow Ballet's children's ballet
mistress and a company soloist. In 1997, after graduating from the Ufa
Choreographic School , she was invited to join the Krasnodarsk Musical
Theater. In 1999, she joined Russia 's renowned National Academy of
Theatrical Arts-GITIS Moscow. Known for her high speed jumps and turns
and her strong accents, Ms. Todinova is known affectionately by those
in the company as "The Baby Swan" for her role in the classic Swan Lake
. Along with Swan Lake , her repertoire includes, The Nutcracker,
Giselle, Coppelia, and La Bayadere .||
http://www.roanokeballet.org/school/staff/index.html

I like the "holistic approach" on it:
|| The teaching philosophy at RBT embraces a holistic approach. Each
student is regarded as a "whole" person, not just a dancer needing
technical training. A skilled and dedicated staff implements this
approach to learning with emphasis on strengthening the student's
minds, imaginations, and bodies'. A positive attitude, good nutrition,
teamwork, creativity, and challenging oneself are important components
of instruction. By fostering the art of dance, in its various forms, we
hope to enrich students, performers, and audience members.||
http://www.roanokeballet.org/about/index.html

marika

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Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> > you might remember that i have a degree in urban studies, so that the
> > precepts of such planning remain in my head even if i haven't actually
> > practiced. lester and others argue about this continually in that
> > group but i haven't seen the city become any savvier
> >
> Yes, I do remember this (always!).
> I meant the savvy business people (who don't come in, for big
> investments, though). But, could you (maybe) assist 'them' /for
> good money/ that the CITY as such will become any savvier?

who knows what they pay for such jobs, but i have two things working
against me -- i haven't done city planning in a long time and i don't
go to church

although i certainly have been doing operational and workload analysis
for the past 6 years, not in that field. so, it might not be
transferrable, or perhaps not as easily transferable.

> www.haplif.de & www.haplif.de/61820.html [politics & economics]

one year i attended, they had a guest couple from kharkiv ukraine. it
was interesting meeting them but they didn't really speak ukrainian
although they were charmed to find someone who did.

I am trying to get back into "things." today was my first day back.
it's like being in the twilight zone

marika

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Aug 8, 2006, 1:12:29 AM8/8/06
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marika wrote:

>
> I am trying to get back into "things." today was my first day back.
> it's like being in the twilight zone

my former supervisor who is now back 'on the line' is going to europe
this month, including switzerland and moscow. for an avocation, he is
a professional volleyball referree; he;s going to bring me back some
vodka. i reallly loved seeing him again.

one weird twilight zone thing i experienced; in emails and discussions
with the new supervisor and therefore manager of the office, he kept
using the phrase 'if you stay'

i am not sure if this means i am not really welcome, or if they think i
have outgrown the place and feel that i should or am in fact looking
for other positions.

one of my staffers from dc called me to inform me of a position in
kansas that he wants me to apply for. as his opinions have been good
thus far, i think i will follow through. i don't really know much
about the place.

a couple of people when i left from dc pulled me aside to tell me of
upcoming jobs i needed to apply for. that was nice too. and the same
happened with my coworkers today, as they mentioned the same or similar
jobs.

but i wanted you to do me a favor.

a few months back probably around april, you sent me a link to a
business organization that you felt i should join. i can't seem to
find the link again but now that i am not as overwhelmed, i think i
will take the time to apply if you think that is still valid and
useful.

thanks

and if i ever calm down and get myself under emotional control post all
the strange and unpleasant things that have happened to me, not the
least of which was getting beat up, then perhaps i will get more
creative in my posting again. tho that happens when i am happy, not
when i am depressed. my memory and language skills aren't as sharp as
i want them to be when i feel this way.

ok good night

Frank Kalder

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Aug 8, 2006, 3:16:53 AM8/8/06
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marika wrote:
> marika wrote:
>
> >
> > I am trying to get back into "things." today was my first day back.
> > it's like being in the twilight zone
>
> my former supervisor who is now back 'on the line' is going to europe
> this month, including switzerland and moscow. for an avocation, he is
> a professional volleyball referree; he's going to bring me back some
> vodka. i reallly loved seeing him again.
>
> one weird twilight zone thing i experienced; in emails and discussions
> with the new supervisor and therefore manager of the office, he kept
> using the phrase 'if you stay'
>
> i am not sure if this means i am not really welcome, or if they think i
> have outgrown the place and feel that i should or am in fact looking
> for other positions.
>
Well, as I assume, they have probably in mind that you had left them
prior to going to Washington (DC) and they might know that you had gone
through the particular MANAGEMENT program as you outlined recently.
This would indicate them that you are overqualified and, thus,
evidently entitled to look around for a more suitable assignment.

> one of my staffers from dc called me to inform me of a position in
> kansas that he wants me to apply for. as his opinions have been good
> thus far, i think i will follow through. i don't really know much
> about the place.
>

Yeah, great!
Kansas /with its prairie/ is certainly very nice www.kansasheritage.org
but yet far away from the rest of "civilization" - meaning
cultural hot spots and so on?!

> a couple of people when i left from dc pulled me aside to tell me of
> upcoming jobs i needed to apply for. that was nice too. and the same
> happened with my coworkers today, as they mentioned the same or similar
> jobs.
>

That sounds good - and gives you a great deal of self-confidence, I
suppose.

> but i wanted you to do me a favor.
>
> a few months back probably around april, you sent me a link to a
> business organization that you felt i should join. i can't seem to
> find the link again but now that i am not as overwhelmed, i think i
> will take the time to apply if you think that is still valid and
> useful.
>

I guess it was pertinent to McKinsey
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/e8ee5cc3c7dc399d

Maybe I suggested to subscribe to something (which I didn't find
either at the moment).

You may enjoy reading this
http://www.mckinsey.com/aboutus/whoweare/leadership/

The closest McK office seems to be in Charlotte, NC
http://www.mckinsey.com/aboutus/locations/charlotte/

Maybe you try to meet with the stuff there and talk about possibilities
that would be suitable for you?!

[I was /once/ in Charlotte, as you may remember.]


>
> and if i ever calm down and get myself under emotional control post all
> the strange and unpleasant things that have happened to me, not the
> least of which was getting beat up, then perhaps i will get more
> creative in my posting again. tho that happens when i am happy, not
> when i am depressed. my memory and language skills aren't as sharp as
> i want them to be when i feel this way.
>

Yeah, I appreciate your reports and stories very, very much!

It was nice /reading in your other post/ that you could formerly even
meet a Ukrainian guest couple in Roanoke :)

>

CU, Frank

--

marika

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Frank Kalder wrote:


> Yeah, great!
> Kansas /with its prairie/ is certainly very nice www.kansasheritage.org
> but yet far away from the rest of "civilization" - meaning
> cultural hot spots and so on?!


I thought of one more place i would like to live -- Mobile. There is a
restaurant called the Dew Drop Inn. It is the southern cafe in your
mind's eye. probably similar to what you encountered in charlotte.
They have several specials everyday with all those vegetables and are
reknown for their Hot Dogs with chili, saurkrat, pickles, all the way
is the way to eat them. The onion rings are great too!

the Southern Gulf Coast is beautiful.

>
> > a couple of people when i left from dc pulled me aside to tell me of
> > upcoming jobs i needed to apply for. that was nice too. and the same
> > happened with my coworkers today, as they mentioned the same or similar
> > jobs.
> >
> That sounds good - and gives you a great deal of self-confidence, I
> suppose.
>
> > but i wanted you to do me a favor.
> >
> > a few months back probably around april, you sent me a link to a
> > business organization that you felt i should join. i can't seem to
> > find the link again but now that i am not as overwhelmed, i think i
> > will take the time to apply if you think that is still valid and
> > useful.
> >
> I guess it was pertinent to McKinsey
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/e8ee5cc3c7dc399d
>
> Maybe I suggested to subscribe to something (which I didn't find
> either at the moment).
>
> You may enjoy reading this
> http://www.mckinsey.com/aboutus/whoweare/leadership/
>
> The closest McK office seems to be in Charlotte, NC
> http://www.mckinsey.com/aboutus/locations/charlotte/
>

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/browse_frm/thread/5d1b6b36a66fef20/c4e4818ceb07b957?lnk=st&q=&rnum=3&hl=en#c4e4818ceb07b957

Frank Kalder

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Aug 9, 2006, 1:15:23 AM8/9/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
> > Yeah, great!
> > Kansas /with its prairie/ is certainly very nice www.kansasheritage.org
> > but yet far away from the rest of "civilization" - meaning
> > cultural hot spots and so on?!
>
>
> I thought of one more place i would like to live -- Mobile.
>
Not www.google.com/mobile this one?!
;)

Wow, you may enjoy the following vistas ...

www.cityofmobile.org/images/historichome.jpg
www.cityofmobile.org/images/mapsfacts.jpg
www.cityofmobile.org/images/dauphinstreet.jpg
www.cityofmobile.org/images/cruiseship.jpg


|| More than a quarter of a million people live in the metropolitan
area that covers 128 square miles. And though Mobile offers the
amenities and infrastructure of a major metropolitan area, it has
retained its sense of community and friendliness. The rest of the world
is taking notice: Mobile has been honored with an All-America City
designation by the National Civic League. A recent survey ranked the
city as one of the top five most "polite" cities in the nation, and
Mobile consistently ranks high in Money Magazine's "300 Best Places to
Live" issue.|| http://www.cityofmobile.org/mapsnfacts/index.php


> There is a restaurant called the Dew Drop Inn.
> It is the southern cafe in your mind's eye.

http://splendidtable.publicradio.org/whereweeat/stern_dewdrop.shtml

> probably similar to what you encountered in charlotte.
>

I don't remember any of those because I spent (on a business trip)
only one night there, had dinner somewhere in the surrounding
countryside and a meeting, the other day, outside the city (then flying
back to New York).

> They have several specials everyday with all those vegetables and are
> reknown for their Hot Dogs with chili, saurkrat, pickles, all the way
> is the way to eat them. The onion rings are great too!
>
> the Southern Gulf Coast is beautiful.
>

Yeah, see photos above :)

>From my car trip I know (only) the area between Dallas/Fort Worth and
New Orleans and back to Houston; thereafter we (my friend and I)
continued to ride /in my black Firebird/ to the West Coast.

...


> >
> > Maybe I suggested to subscribe to something (which I didn't find
> > either at the moment).
> >
> > You may enjoy reading this
> > http://www.mckinsey.com/aboutus/whoweare/leadership/
> >
> > The closest McK office seems to be in Charlotte, NC
> > http://www.mckinsey.com/aboutus/locations/charlotte/
> >
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/browse_frm/thread/5d1b6b36a66fef20/c4e4818ceb07b957?lnk=st&q=&rnum=3&hl=en#c4e4818ceb07b957
>

Ah, from 4th March. I suggested you might perhaps try to subscribe to
the 'McKinsey Quarterly'.

When I looked at the posting I presented yesterday, I was unable to
browse searchingly around in our former "squid blog" since the
system had collapsed immediately (lack of remote space or so).

marika

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Aug 9, 2006, 8:44:25 PM8/9/06
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Frank Kalder wrote:
> marika wrote:
> > Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Yeah, great!
> > > Kansas /with its prairie/ is certainly very nice www.kansasheritage.org

> > > but yet far away from the rest of "civilization" - meaning
> > > cultural hot spots and so on?!
> >

i think we are talking kansas city kansas state, which is a pretty nice
but small city

> >
> > I thought of one more place i would like to live -- Mobile.
> >
> Not www.google.com/mobile this one?!
> ;)
>

these are dark times. i have spent a lifetime
contemplating the stupidity of humanity, or at least
the facsimilie of.
i would rather live in a mobius than a mobile of that type.

this thing where i am applying for jobs is just going to further
depress me when i don't win.
and yet i am pretty sure i will be depressed if i stay doing the same
job i did so many years ago
here we go loop de loop.

i think

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley/browse_frm/thread/3756c918fbe73b98/b1af880c001f7577?lnk=st&q=&rnum=18&hl=en#b1af880c001f7577

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.nirvana/browse_frm/thread/4bd02e9e9b079441/03ce2459de5c876a?lnk=st&q=&rnum=9&hl=en#03ce2459de5c876a


> www.cityofmobile.org/images/cruiseship.jpg

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/browse_frm/thread/3ed73a060c25a2a7/395ee3fc8715c576?lnk=st&q=&rnum=4&hl=en#395ee3fc8715c576

Frank Kalder

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Aug 10, 2006, 5:04:57 AM8/10/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> > marika wrote:
> > > Frank Kalder wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah, great!
> > > > Kansas /with its prairie/ is certainly very nice www.kansasheritage.org
>
> > > > but yet far away from the rest of "civilization" - meaning
> > > > cultural hot spots and so on?!
> > >
>
> i think we are talking kansas city kansas state, which is a pretty nice
> but small city
>
You're sort of confusing me. I thought, at first, you meant Kansas
State. I know about Kansas City, MO (i.e. Missouri). Are you talking
about that one? It's pretty nice and it seems people are
internationally minded there. However, it is in the midst of the
prairie or the Great Plains
www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/govdocs/text/greatplains/text.html - Thus you
might miss the mountains and hills of Virginia (not the hillbillies,
though).

Incidentally, I found this www.kansascityswingdance.org on SWING
DANCING which may enjoy you?!


MOBILE (Alabama):

> > Not www.google.com/mobile this one?!
> > ;)
> >
>
> these are dark times. i have spent a lifetime
> contemplating the stupidity of humanity, or at least
> the facsimilie of.
> i would rather live in a mobius than a mobile of that type.
>

;)

> this thing where i am applying for jobs is just going to further
> depress me when i don't win.
> and yet i am pretty sure i will be depressed if i stay doing the same
> job i did so many years ago
> here we go loop de loop.
>

As you mentioned previously: really in a "twilight zone".

> > [...]
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.nirvana/browse_frm/thread/4bd02e9e9b079441/03ce2459de5c876a?lnk=st&q=&rnum=9&hl=en#03ce2459de5c876a
>
Yeah, WINTZELS seems to be cute :)
>
> > www.cityofmobile.org/images/cruiseship.jpg
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/browse_frm/thread/3ed73a060c25a2a7/395ee3fc8715c576?lnk=st&q=&rnum=4&hl=en#395ee3fc8715c576
> >

Very nice story :)

Yesterday, I watched the ELIZABETHTOWN movie (DVD). Very nice KENTUCKY
vistas (and insights to its people...).

marika

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Frank Kalder wrote:
> marika wrote:
> > Frank Kalder wrote:
> > > marika wrote:
> > > > Frank Kalder wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah, great!
> > > > > Kansas /with its prairie/ is certainly very nice www.kansasheritage.org
> >
> > > > > but yet far away from the rest of "civilization" - meaning
> > > > > cultural hot spots and so on?!
> > > >
> >
> > i think we are talking kansas city kansas state, which is a pretty nice
> > but small city
> >
> You're sort of confusing me.


thanks for the clarification, as i also confused myself

> I thought, at first, you meant Kansas
> State. I know about Kansas City, MO (i.e. Missouri). Are you talking
> about that one? It's pretty nice and it seems people are
> internationally minded there. However, it is in the midst of the
> prairie or the Great Plains
> www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/govdocs/text/greatplains/text.html - Thus you
> might miss the mountains and hills of Virginia (not the hillbillies,
> though).
>
> Incidentally, I found this www.kansascityswingdance.org on SWING
> DANCING which may enjoy you?!
>

no i don't like any physical dancing that requires rules and a partner,
except for the dancing that accompanies boxing

>
> MOBILE (Alabama):
>
> > > Not www.google.com/mobile this one?!
> > > ;)
> > >
> >
> > these are dark times. i have spent a lifetime
> > contemplating the stupidity of humanity, or at least
> > the facsimilie of.
> > i would rather live in a mobius than a mobile of that type.
> >
> ;)
>
> > this thing where i am applying for jobs is just going to further
> > depress me when i don't win.
> > and yet i am pretty sure i will be depressed if i stay doing the same
> > job i did so many years ago
> > here we go loop de loop.
> >
> As you mentioned previously: really in a "twilight zone".
>
> > > [...]
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.nirvana/browse_frm/thread/4bd02e9e9b079441/03ce2459de5c876a?lnk=st&q=&rnum=9&hl=en#03ce2459de5c876a
> >
> Yeah, WINTZELS seems to be cute :)

o if i lived in that city, i would eat there every day

> >
> > > www.cityofmobile.org/images/cruiseship.jpg
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/browse_frm/thread/3ed73a060c25a2a7/395ee3fc8715c576?lnk=st&q=&rnum=4&hl=en#395ee3fc8715c576
> > >
>
> Very nice story :)
>
> Yesterday, I watched the ELIZABETHTOWN movie (DVD). Very nice KENTUCKY
> vistas (and insights to its people...).
>

i will look out for it then

we here so much about the uk terrorist arrest, and now they have banned
laptops on uk flights and food and drink on us flights. how are things
there.
i will be flying out tomorrow, to phila so naturally things are
unpredictable after one day after a particularly tight clamp down in
security

i'm visiting my parents as my mother will have a birthday and then i go
for some kind of training,

marika

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Frank Kalder wrote:
> marika wrote:
> > Frank Kalder wrote:
> > > marika wrote:
> > > > Frank Kalder wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah, great!
> > > > > Kansas /with its prairie/ is certainly very nice www.kansasheritage.org
> >
> > > > > but yet far away from the rest of "civilization" - meaning
> > > > > cultural hot spots and so on?!
> > > >
> >
> > i think we are talking kansas city kansas state, which is a pretty nice
> > but small city
> >
> You're sort of confusing me.

thanks for the clarification, as i also confused myself

> I thought, at first, you meant Kansas


> State. I know about Kansas City, MO (i.e. Missouri). Are you talking
> about that one? It's pretty nice and it seems people are
> internationally minded there. However, it is in the midst of the
> prairie or the Great Plains
> www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/govdocs/text/greatplains/text.html - Thus you
> might miss the mountains and hills of Virginia (not the hillbillies,
> though).
>
> Incidentally, I found this www.kansascityswingdance.org on SWING
> DANCING which may enjoy you?!
>

no i don't like any physical dancing that requires rules and a partner,


except for the dancing that accompanies boxing

>


> MOBILE (Alabama):
>
> > > Not www.google.com/mobile this one?!
> > > ;)
> > >
> >
> > these are dark times. i have spent a lifetime
> > contemplating the stupidity of humanity, or at least
> > the facsimilie of.
> > i would rather live in a mobius than a mobile of that type.
> >
> ;)
>
> > this thing where i am applying for jobs is just going to further
> > depress me when i don't win.
> > and yet i am pretty sure i will be depressed if i stay doing the same
> > job i did so many years ago
> > here we go loop de loop.
> >
> As you mentioned previously: really in a "twilight zone".
>
> > > [...]
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.nirvana/browse_frm/thread/4bd02e9e9b079441/03ce2459de5c876a?lnk=st&q=&rnum=9&hl=en#03ce2459de5c876a
> >
> Yeah, WINTZELS seems to be cute :)

o if i lived in that city, i would eat there every day

> >


> > > www.cityofmobile.org/images/cruiseship.jpg
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/browse_frm/thread/3ed73a060c25a2a7/395ee3fc8715c576?lnk=st&q=&rnum=4&hl=en#395ee3fc8715c576
> > >
>
> Very nice story :)
>
> Yesterday, I watched the ELIZABETHTOWN movie (DVD). Very nice KENTUCKY
> vistas (and insights to its people...).
>

i will look out for it then

Frank Kalder

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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>

[Kansas City (Missouri)]


>
> thanks for the clarification, as i also confused myself
>

> > Incidentally, I found this www.kansascityswingdance.org on SWING
> > DANCING which may enjoy you?!
>
> no i don't like any physical dancing that requires rules and a partner,
> except for the dancing that accompanies boxing
>

I had perceived that you like ballet. Thus, I thought this type of
dancing is almost sort of 'in-ballet-style'.

> > MOBILE (Alabama):


> > >
> > Yeah, WINTZELS seems to be cute :)
>
> o if i lived in that city, i would eat there every day
>

That's true, I guess :)


> > >
> >
> > Yesterday, I watched the ELIZABETHTOWN movie (DVD). Very nice KENTUCKY
> > vistas (and insights to its people...).
>
> i will look out for it then
>

It reminded me of the Virginian people (around Roanoke) as you
described them recently...

> we here so much about the uk terrorist arrest, and now they have banned
> laptops on uk flights and food and drink on us flights. how are things
> there.
> i will be flying out tomorrow, to phila so naturally things are
> unpredictable after one day after a particularly tight clamp down in
> security
>


www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/15247332.htm Excerpts:
"- Rampage was just days away -
Impending bombings were thwarted, U.S. and Britain say in cautioning
that more conspirators are likely at large."
"The terrorists were allegedly planning to use drink bottles filled
with liquid explosives and simple, electronic devices - possibly
iPods or cell phones - to set off charges..."
"The target flights were to be bound from Britain to New York,
Washington, Boston, Chicago and Los Angeles..."
G. W. Bush: "It is a mistake to believe there is no threat to the
United States of America."... "And that is why we have given our
officials the tools they need to protect our people."

"Aber auch die Flüge nach Nizza, Athen, Frankfurt, Mailand und
anderen europäischen Destinationen fallen aus."
www.nzz.ch/2006/08/11/al/articleEDHZE-composite.html
It's reported from London today: But also flights to Nice, Athens,
Frankfurt, Milan and other destinations are being cancelled.

> i'm visiting my parents as my mother will have a birthday and then i go
> for some kind of training
>

Very nice family event
& enjoy your training!

marika

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> no i don't like any physical dancing that requires rules and a partner,
> except for the dancing that accompanies boxing
>
I had perceived that you like ballet. Thus, I thought this type of
dancing is almost sort of 'in-ballet-style'.

to watch yes, to participate in, no.
I would probably watch swing, but definitely not do it.

They're talking about these 3 million dollar Signmund liquid detection
machine
it's a very telling scan, that takes about 2 minutes and so slows down the
travelling trafic

> i'm visiting my parents as my mother will have a birthday and then i go
> for some kind of training
>
<<Very nice family event
& enjoy your training!>>

alls well apparently,
nothing left to do but smile,smile,smile

Frank Kalder

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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:


> > I had perceived that you like ballet. Thus, I thought this type of
> > dancing is almost sort of 'in-ballet-style'.
>
> to watch yes, to participate in, no.
> I would probably watch swing, but definitely not do it.
>

Yeah, that's what I meant: just watching :)
[if you ever went to Kansas City, MO].
Btw, your quotes didn't work. I repaired them manually.

>
> They're talking about these 3 million dollar Signmund liquid detection
> machine
> it's a very telling scan, that takes about 2 minutes and so slows down the

> travelling traffic
>
Maybe "Sigmund" (any link available)?

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Aug11/0,4670,ExplosivesTechnology,00.html

This one would cost $250,000.

Hopefully they'll have appropriate scanners asap.
>
> all's well apparently,


> nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
>

Ah?! Yeah :)
Meaning of your assessment (yet a bit twilight-cryptic)?

marika

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"Frank Kalder" <edi...@haplif.de> wrote in message
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> marika wrote:
>> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>> > I had perceived that you like ballet. Thus, I thought this type of
>> > dancing is almost sort of 'in-ballet-style'.
>>
>> to watch yes, to participate in, no.
>> I would probably watch swing, but definitely not do it.
>>
> Yeah, that's what I meant: just watching :)
> [if you ever went to Kansas City, MO].
> Btw, your quotes didn't work. I repaired them manually.

same with yours that I was replying to. They stopped working somewhere in
the middle of the page


>
>>
>> They're talking about these 3 million dollar Signmund liquid detection
>> machine
>> it's a very telling scan, that takes about 2 minutes and so slows down
>> the
>> travelling traffic
>>
> Maybe "Sigmund" (any link available)?
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Aug11/0,4670,ExplosivesTechnology,00.html
>
> This one would cost $250,000.
>
> Hopefully they'll have appropriate scanners asap.
>>
>> all's well apparently,
>> nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
>>
> Ah?! Yeah :)
> Meaning of your assessment (yet a bit twilight-cryptic)?
>
>


when something is going wrong, and there is a potential for irritation,
people say -- smile, smile, smile. i think it comes from a song.

I am not going to go deaf from the sound of the TV, which I have mentioned
before that my father watches at full blast
It's even louder than the PA music system in the Asian grocery store.
father's new favorite thing to watch now is cooking shows.

LOUD cooking shows.

in 50 point type

STIR WELL, TOP WITH CHEESE,
AND BAKE AT 350 DEGREES UNTIL
TOP IS BROWNED AND BUBBLY...
(GODAMMIT!!!)

marika

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> > >
> >
> > Yesterday, I watched the ELIZABETHTOWN movie (DVD). Very nice KENTUCKY
> > vistas (and insights to its people...).
>
> i will look out for it then
>
>It reminded me of the Virginian people (around Roanoke) as you
>described them recently...

since i am in the vibrating house with access to dvd player, I borrowed it
and found it wonderful in every way,

Didn't recognize Loudon Wainwright, who played Uncle Dale.

I like how Kirsten Dunst's character categorized people along their names.
Because my 2 best pals in DC were both Claires, which was her character's
name.

mk5000

"We knew something had happened, and we
debated about going back. We had no idea it would be
something like this. We didn't know it was something
serious." --chad cadden


marika

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>
>
>
>> we here so much about the uk terrorist arrest, and now they have banned
>> laptops on uk flights and food and drink on us flights. how are things
>> there.
>> i will be flying out tomorrow, to phila so naturally things are
>> unpredictable after one day after a particularly tight clamp down in
>> security
>>
>

For part 1 of my mother's birthday, we bought her three kinds of roses.

One red == for traditional love
Two yellow -- because that's her favorite
Three -- orange -- because that is what red and yellow equal, as well as
orange is the color of rukh, the ukrainian movement.

then to
www.jonathansamericangrille.com

we used to go here when it was called the Greenwood Grille. It's in the
Jenkintown train station itself. A really interesting setting. Here's a
picture.

http://dasarchitects.com/files/projects/projects_johnathans.shtml

as many places as I have been in DC and Arlington and Alexandria. This
place was head and shoulders better.
The food more subtle, better flavored, better prepared altogether more
interesting choice of seafood and spices.

Not to mention, that the service was superior to any DC area restaurant.

also, while home, I got to observe some of my father's bargain shopping

I saw the blob today. It is kinda cute. Anyway its name is now Pataki,
for the governor of the same name who does exactly the same thing - sits
in the bottom of a camellia pot, doing absolutely nothing. And when
springtime comes, it's getting holes poked in it and feathers put into
the holes.

That lighthouse, now THAT'S useless.

mk5000

"The expansion of the universe is a matter of astronomical FACTS
interpreted by the theory of relativity, with the help of assumptions
as to the homogeneity of space, without which any theory seems to be
impossible."--george lematire


marika

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> >

more on the bargain basement purchases during the visit home.

I'm not so sure if someone actually SOLD a defective broken
grapefruit shaped bird, so much as I am sure my father PURCHASED
a defective broken grapefruit shaped bird. It was probably in a
pile of junk in the corner of the store, labeled for trash, but
maybe it still had a $29.99 sticker on it, from before it's
unfortunate and untimely appendage fractures occured, and so
he offered them a dollar for it, convinced it was a rare bargain
find. If you owned the store, wouldn't YOU take a buck from a
crazy old Einstein/Curly Stooge look-a-like, for a broken
imitation stone-blob in the trash, too?

So it's sitting in the bottom of a camelia pot, one of Ma's pretty
indoor plants, in the living room now. There's this nice pot, and
pretty plant, and this $1 BLOB in the bottom of the pot. And my father
smiles and picks it up and cradles it when he shows it to you....
kind of like Carol Maryl from The Price is Right. Umm- dad- IT'S
A BLOB!!!


> > Yesterday, I watched the ELIZABETHTOWN movie (DVD). Very nice KENTUCKY
> > vistas (and insights to its people...).
>
> i will look out for it then
>
>It reminded me of the Virginian people (around Roanoke) as you
>described them recently...


I just watched a movie called Junebug, which turns out to be even closer in
describing the environs and people of Roanoke than even Elizabethtown.

The movie was shot in an area less than 2 hours from Roanoke. Winston Salem
and Greensboro.

The location shots look just like my neighborhood, the houses much like
those in my neighborhood. Eerie.
The story revolves around a couple, husband from that area, wife an art
dealer from Chicago thereabouts.

The artist she pursues is from that area. WHile his biography is not styled
after, his art style is certainly modeled after that of Howard Finster, who
spent some time in that area as well, (although he was originally from
Alabama).
http://www.finster.com/HFBiography.htm
The church scenes were right on target.

mk5000

"The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place
where he arose."-- (Ecclesiastes 1:5).


Frank Kalder

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marika wrote:
>
> >
>
> For part 1 of my mother's birthday, we bought her three kinds of roses.
>
> One red == for traditional love
> Two yellow -- because that's her favorite
> Three -- orange -- because that is what red and yellow equal, as well as
> orange is the color of rukh, the ukrainian movement.
>
~~ very sensitive ~~

You may enjoy this rarest Corpse Flower (in Brooklyn)
http://ilrestodelcarlino.quotidiano.net/canali/foto_del_giorno which
blossoms all 30 years for 3 to 4 days only.


> then to
> www.jonathansamericangrille.com
>
> we used to go here when it was called the Greenwood Grille. It's in the
> Jenkintown train station itself. A really interesting setting. Here's a
> picture.
>
> http://dasarchitects.com/files/projects/projects_johnathans.shtml
>
> as many places as I have been in DC and Arlington and Alexandria. This
> place was head and shoulders better.
> The food more subtle, better flavored, better prepared altogether more
> interesting choice of seafood and spices.
>
> Not to mention, that the service was superior to any DC area restaurant.
>

Yeah, a real cute place for lunch or dinner, I'd love it, too :)

> also, while home, I got to observe some of my father's bargain shopping
>
> I saw the blob today. It is kinda cute. Anyway its name is now Pataki,
> for the governor of the same name who does exactly the same thing - sits
> in the bottom of a camellia pot, doing absolutely nothing. And when
> springtime comes, it's getting holes poked in it and feathers put into
> the holes.
>
> That lighthouse, now THAT'S useless.
>

I'm also amused by the BLOB story in the other blog.
And you apparently survived the GODAMMIT-loudness-attack :)

ELIZABETHTOWN

> since i am in the vibrating house with access to dvd player, I borrowed it
> and found it wonderful in every way,
>
> Didn't recognize Loudon Wainwright, who played Uncle Dale.
>
> I like how Kirsten Dunst's character categorized people along their names.
> Because my 2 best pals in DC were both Claires, which was her character's
> name.

I'm glad you liked it, too :)
>
JUNEBUG
>
> I just watched a movie called Junebug, which turns out to be even closer in


> describing the environs and people of Roanoke than even Elizabethtown.
>
> The movie was shot in an area less than 2 hours from Roanoke. Winston Salem
> and Greensboro.
>

I'll watch out for it...

> The location shots look just like my neighborhood, the houses much like
> those in my neighborhood. Eerie.
> The story revolves around a couple, husband from that area, wife an art
> dealer from Chicago thereabouts.
>
> The artist she pursues is from that area. WHile his biography is not styled
> after, his art style is certainly modeled after that of Howard Finster, who
> spent some time in that area as well, (although he was originally from
> Alabama).
> http://www.finster.com/HFBiography.htm
> The church scenes were right on target.
>

I'll love to look into this (if available) in order to get a deeper
feeling and understanding of the environment and ambiance that
surrounds you.


>
> "The expansion of the universe is a matter of astronomical FACTS
> interpreted by the theory of relativity, with the help of assumptions
> as to the homogeneity of space, without which any theory seems to be
> impossible."--george lematire
>

YEP :)

marika

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>>
>> I just watched a movie called Junebug, which turns out to be even closer
>> in
>> describing the environs and people of Roanoke than even Elizabethtown.
>>
>> The movie was shot in an area less than 2 hours from Roanoke. Winston
>> Salem
>> and Greensboro.
>>
>
> I'll watch out for it...
>
>> The location shots look just like my neighborhood, the houses much like
>> those in my neighborhood. Eerie.
>> The story revolves around a couple, husband from that area, wife an art
>> dealer from Chicago thereabouts.
>>
>> The artist she pursues is from that area. WHile his biography is not
>> styled
>> after, his art style is certainly modeled after that of Howard Finster,
>> who
>> spent some time in that area as well, (although he was originally from
>> Alabama).
>> http://www.finster.com/HFBiography.htm
>> The church scenes were right on target.
>>
> I'll love to look into this (if available) in order to get a deeper
> feeling and understanding of the environment and ambiance that
> surrounds you.
>>

I wonder what it would be like to be exposed to the religiosity of the
Mormon part of the world as portrayed by the Napoleon Dynamite movie. Not
overtly religious movie, but very accurate they say.

I was at Target this weekend, to add to my Napoleon Dynamite memorabilia
collection. they had no Nappleon talking pens.

I feared that they were going to over-merchandise this movie and the
main characters. Kind of
like Cartman on South Park was funny at first, but got done to death and
I got sick of him. But so far I am not sick of Napoleon, but they had a
report on a tv morning news show on South Park this morning.
Now that show is interesting because it makes fun of all religions, without
any limits. I have not watched South Park regularly over the years, but the
clips they showed about the catholic church and scientology were very funny,

mk5000

"To overcome perfectionism one needs to build a healthy
self-concept and learn to accept him or herself as an
imperfect person and feel contented therein. With
commitment and hard work this can be done. "--michael josephson


marika

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.
>>
> I'm also amused by the BLOB story in the other blog.
> And you apparently survived the GODAMMIT-loudness-attack :)
>

birthday part 2

So we are at beige anc beige our favorite russian haute cuisine restaurant,
now with my sister, who is demonstrating my father's cooking show loudness
attack goddamit.

In the other corner, on the big screen tv, where men would normally watch
soccer and or football, someone has tuned in to a Cooking show, and as she
screams GRATE THE CHEESE

so too does the cooking show

mk5000

"Sail and sail, with unshut eye
Round the world for ever and aye"

-- Matthew Arnold


Frank Kalder

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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
> >>
> >>
>
> I wonder what it would be like to be exposed to the religiosity of the
> Mormon part of the world as portrayed by the Napoleon Dynamite movie. Not
> overtly religious movie, but very accurate they say.
>
> I was at Target this weekend, to add to my Napoleon Dynamite memorabilia
> collection. they had no Napoleon talking pens.
>
I've noted this movie, too, now :)

> I feared that they were going to over-merchandise this movie and the
> main characters. Kind of
> like Cartman on South Park was funny at first, but got done to death and
> I got sick of him. But so far I am not sick of Napoleon, but they had a
> report on a tv morning news show on South Park this morning.
> Now that show is interesting because it makes fun of all religions, without
> any limits. I have not watched South Park regularly over the years, but the

> clips they showed about the catholic church and scientology were very funny.
>
O yeah!

Thanks for your enjoyable story (birthday part 2) in the other post :)

Here's
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING/msg/13542faa9460bac9?&hl=en
a most remarkable 'NYC event'.

>
> "To overcome perfectionism one needs to build a healthy
> self-concept and learn to accept him or herself as an
> imperfect person and feel contented therein. With
> commitment and hard work this can be done. "--michael josephson
>

YEP & WOW ;))

marika

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Ihave actually seen that flower but I can't remember where. There's more
than one in display in the US. I suspect it was last year at the
Smithsonian. When we visited the butterfly exhibit for my mother's
birthday. Butterfiles are one of her favorite things. She and my father
are out right now, tending to their monarch butterfuly farm. Yes, they have
a sizeable one, and they also raised swallowtails.

If I scan the aullm blog i may find evidence of having spoken of it, or
perhaps still in my journal.

On the news, they said that NY and DC and LA were on the list as targeted
cities in the plot that the UK authorities uncovered tha was to occur on the
16th. So that is an interesting symbolic connection.

Of course I am a skeptic and believe that if the bombing started it was only
a small test run, and that what is really stored in those cannisters or
would have been was dirty nuclear material, though of course I am prone to
exhausting bouts of imagination.

I also noticed a news report although I was sleeping at the time, by some
military expert, who said that the Israel actions on Lebanon were just a
trial run. That this is all in preparation for an attack on Iraq, a
practice run if you will. Sounds sort of logical to me.

I have also noted the relative absence of hurricane predictions this year.
Although they certainly will occur. Some believe they will hit a more
northerly Atlantic location this time, owing to the extreme heat that has
affected ocean currents. DC and New England are expected to be affected.

Dont' know how much you may watch CNN weather and the Weather Channel, but
some years back for some odd reason, the wxcrew -- professional tv people
refer to weather as wx -- are no longer good enough to be merely
meteorologists or wxcrew.

No, now they're "Severe Weather Specialists".


I thought meteorologist sounded cooler and more sophisticated myself.


CNN bosses )they own the WX Channel) have forced the Wx Channel into being


"The Hurricane Authority"

I would NEVER look at anyone other than WxChannel as authority on severe wx
. . .


at least in tv media


but, that's just geeky me.


mk5000

Tea first. Then be ready." --from Twin Peaks

marika

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i'll be in a hotel for the week, so don't know access ability til end of
week. just fyi
since I will be in center city phila, i may do some exploring with some
stories to tell thereafter

mk5000

"But come party time, it was a different story.
We cleaned up very nicely.

We had a pretty raging little fete.
Reedfish who I met last year for the first time at New Year's and who I
introduced here as Ennui's new man, is now Ennui's fiance. "--mermaid jones

Frank Kalder

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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>

> >
> > Here's
> > http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING/msg/13542faa9460bac9?&hl=en
> > a most remarkable 'NYC event'.
> >

[Corpse Flower]
> >>
> I have actually seen that flower but I can't remember where. There's more


> than one in display in the US. I suspect it was last year at the
> Smithsonian. When we visited the butterfly exhibit for my mother's

> birthday. Butterflies are one of her favorite things. She and my father
> are out right now, tending to their monarch butterfly farm. Yes, they have


> a sizeable one, and they also raised swallowtails.
>

Nice co-incidence :)

> On the news, they said that NY and DC and LA were on the list as targeted
> cities in the plot that the UK authorities uncovered tha was to occur on the
> 16th. So that is an interesting symbolic connection.
>
> Of course I am a skeptic and believe that if the bombing started it was only

> a small test run, and that what is really stored in those canisters or


> would have been was dirty nuclear material, though of course I am prone to
> exhausting bouts of imagination.
>
> I also noticed a news report although I was sleeping at the time, by some
> military expert, who said that the Israel actions on Lebanon were just a
> trial run. That this is all in preparation for an attack on Iraq, a
> practice run if you will. Sounds sort of logical to me.
>

You mean Iran (instead of Iraq), I'd assume.

> I have also noted the relative absence of hurricane predictions this year.
> Although they certainly will occur. Some believe they will hit a more
> northerly Atlantic location this time, owing to the extreme heat that has
> affected ocean currents. DC and New England are expected to be affected.
>

We'll observe that...

> Don't know how much you may watch CNN weather and the Weather Channel, but


> some years back for some odd reason, the wxcrew -- professional tv people
> refer to weather as wx -- are no longer good enough to be merely
> meteorologists or wxcrew.
>
> No, now they're "Severe Weather Specialists".
>

I watch CNN very rarely (just for a few minute).
>
But the really relevant stuff [for Europeans] I'm getting, as far as
TV is concerned, via n-TV (Bertelsmann media group) who is closely
associated with CNN. Thus, your additional advice on the US part of
such news is very much appreciated.
>
> I thought meteorologist sounded cooler and more sophisticated, myself.
>
Yeah, me too!

> CNN bosses (they own the WX Channel) have forced the Wx Channel into being
>
Well, I won't mind. We find "cool" abbreviations allover :)


>
> "The Hurricane Authority"
>
> I would NEVER look at anyone other than WxChannel as authority on severe wx
> . . .
>
> at least in tv media
>
> but, that's just geeky me.
>

Wow, "geeky"... - Thanks for this demonstration of the term :)

> I'll be in a hotel for the week, so don't know access ability til end of


> week. just fyi
> since I will be in center city phila, i may do some exploring with some

> stories to tell thereafter.
>

Have a pleasant stay!
I'll enjoy reading your stories, then :)

marika

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"Frank Kalder" <edi...@haplif.de> wrote in message
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> marika wrote:
>> Frank Kalder wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>
>> >
>> > Here's
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING/msg/13542faa9460bac9?&hl=en
>> > a most remarkable 'NYC event'.
>> >
> [Corpse Flower]
>> >>
>> I have actually seen that flower but I can't remember where. There's
>> more
>> than one in display in the US. I suspect it was last year at the
>> Smithsonian. When we visited the butterfly exhibit for my mother's
>> birthday. Butterflies are one of her favorite things. She and my father
>> are out right now, tending to their monarch butterfly farm. Yes, they
>> have
>> a sizeable one, and they also raised swallowtails.
>>
> Nice co-incidence :)

as it turns out, it was actually an orchid show. I found the link where I
had discussed it before.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley/browse_frm/thread/ee2db49b9bcaabe3/d8880f9d058c55c7?lnk=st&q=The+Dawn+Choir+is+in+full+swing+now.+The+most+amazing+variety+&rnum=1#d8880f9d058c55c7

Further coincidence in that I was discussing terrorism then too.

>
>> On the news, they said that NY and DC and LA were on the list as targeted
>> cities in the plot that the UK authorities uncovered tha was to occur on
>> the
>> 16th. So that is an interesting symbolic connection.
>>
>> Of course I am a skeptic and believe that if the bombing started it was
>> only
>> a small test run, and that what is really stored in those canisters or
>> would have been was dirty nuclear material, though of course I am prone
>> to
>> exhausting bouts of imagination.
>>
>> I also noticed a news report although I was sleeping at the time, by some
>> military expert, who said that the Israel actions on Lebanon were just a
>> trial run. That this is all in preparation for an attack on Iraq, a
>> practice run if you will. Sounds sort of logical to me.
>>
> You mean Iran (instead of Iraq), I'd assume.

You assumed good.

I am really bothered about what I hear about the west coast. There were
very brief reports about seattle seaport closures this week, due to some odd
chemical sitings.
As soon as this news came on, it was interrupted and almost completely
eradicated by this preposterous Ramsey thing. I can't help but wonder why,
since the US government was certainly aware that this man had been trying to
confess now for several months (before Patsy Ramsey died), why did they pick
the day that the Seattle Seaport got closed to bring the man in from
Bangkok. Very weird. Especially since it is all but 100 percent clear that
he didn't do it, no matter what else he may have done.

geeky is an old term from carnival days, geeks were those that had physical
deformities or other oddities about them, and the only decent living they
could otherwise make was as carnival sideshow items. The term geek got more
and more incorporated into the US English for person who considers
themselves odd for one reason or another.

>
>> I'll be in a hotel for the week, so don't know access ability til end of
>> week. just fyi
>> since I will be in center city phila, i may do some exploring with some
>> stories to tell thereafter.
>>
>
> Have a pleasant stay!
> I'll enjoy reading your stories, then :)
>


I can't say that I have anything but typical tourist stories this time.

First, the hotel was the Sheraton in the very oldest part of town, very
historic and very lovely.
http://www.cn-turkey.com/world-wide-hotels/online-hotel-reservations.asp?HotelID=105462
The first night, we got out and about and reexplored many part sof the city
that I had seen many many times, and even lived near. Penn's Landing,
www.pennslandingcorp.com/ ,
Society Hill
http://www.aviewoncities.com/philadelphia/societyhill.htm
New Market
http://www.ushistory.org/birch/plates/plate16.htm which used to house a
large dairy

South Street were all nicely refurbished and very lovely to visit. Many
more attractions than I had ever seen in the past.

http://www.southstreet.com/

South Street was full of new eateries and shopping places. It was once
famous for the 1960's hippies
http://www.lyricsdownload.com/orlons-south-street-lyrics.html

then the next decade brought punk rockers

now it's commerce and fun

here's a link to some famous Philly food
http://www.elliottsamazing.com/phlfood.html

I filled up on some of my favorites while there, especially Tasty Kakes and
soft pretzels

South Street is also tourist heaven for getting a famous Philadelphia Philly
Cheese Steak.
Most tourists are steered to either Pat's or Jim's. But, we tried a new one
called SOS which I think stands for Steaks on South. Although my companion
had a steak sandwich, I had a just as famous meatball sandwich.

The next day the entire class attended a banquet at a restaurant called
Ploughs and Stars. I was shocked that no one out of a group of more than 30,
many with Irish backgrounds, recognized the origin of the name as an Irish
play from the early 1900s. I was fascinated to see that a movie of this
play was produced as well. http://poll.imdb.com/title/tt0028112//

I sat across from a person who I had met several years earlier and got to
know her better. She told me about a person who was "incompetent" and was
talking about satellites the entire time. Naturally they thought she was
talking about seeing aliens. Turns out she thought the aliens were
plentiful because of all the "satellite parking" signs in the area.

Definitions of Satellite Parking on the Web:

a.. Also known as Park 'n Ride, satellite parking is located on airport
property, but is not directly connected to the main terminal building, and
so offers cheaper parking rates than the parking garages
www.orlandoairports.net/goaa/glossary.htm
It's hard to judge a restaurant in a banquet atmosphere, but it was really
very observant of the Irish pub look.. The salmon dinner was quite good,
but oddly they made one of the best mojitos I have ever had.

The final night, I went seeking the Painted Bride Art Gallery, a place I had
gone many times in the past.
It moved to just around the corner from our PHila office. Unfortunately,
there did not seem to be any activity in the summer althought the rest of
the year they have excellent performances and music. The facade of the
building is http://paintedbride.org/ apparent a little from this shot on the
website, a most interesting glittery mosaic.

Then, for evening, I went alone (as mostly no one else had as far a trip as
I to Roanoke and had all gone) to a restaurant, the Amada.
http://amadarestaurant.com/
Really incredible tapas. I like that more than meals, because you can taste
so many more things. THey had REAL anchovies, not fillets, which I love. I
had my dinner at the end of the bar pictured here. Check out the menu as it
is truly worth it. Here's a list of the specialty cocktails, which have
very sexy names and also, the ones I sampled were out of this world.

SPECIALTY COCKTAILS

BAD EDUCATION / Orange Mojito w/ Fresh Mint & Lime

LABYRINTH OF PASSION / Passion Fruit & Melon Margarita

LAW OF DESIRE / Ginger Lime Martini

TALK TO HER / Spiced Pear Cognac Martini w/ White Wine

HIGH HEELS / Ruby Red / Grapefruit Mimosa

MATADOR / Pomegranate Cosmo w/ Raspberry Liqueur

TIE ME UP TIE ME DOWN / Lemon Rosemary / Martini

ALL ABOUT MY MOTHER / Lavender White grape Gimlet

WOMEN ON THE VERGE OF A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN / Mango & Coconut Colada

In case you are wondering, but maybe not, I am still angry and depressed.
This trip to Philadelphia reminded me how much I love this city, and how
much more I love it than DC/ And how much, although I love my house, how
much I despise Roanoke living.


mk5000

"A rip that heals behind, the only trace of you
Like beads upon a string, your necklace left behind
A path that blurs and slowly vanishes from sight
We hear your voice, a shriek of triumph"--polly moller, auroria


Frank Kalder

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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > Nice coincidence :)

>
> as it turns out, it was actually an orchid show. I found the link where I
> had discussed it before.
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley/browse_frm/thread/ee2db49b9bcaabe3/d8880f9d058c55c7?lnk=st&q=The+Dawn+Choir+is+in+full+swing+now.+The+most+amazing+variety+&rnum=1#d8880f9d058c55c7
>
> Further coincidence in that I was discussing terrorism then too.
>
Yes, thanks, I've checked it!

>
> I am really bothered about what I hear about the west coast. There were
> very brief reports about seattle seaport closures this week, due to some odd

> chemical sittings.


> As soon as this news came on, it was interrupted and almost completely
> eradicated by this preposterous Ramsey thing. I can't help but wonder why,
> since the US government was certainly aware that this man had been trying to
> confess now for several months (before Patsy Ramsey died), why did they pick
> the day that the Seattle Seaport got closed to bring the man in from
> Bangkok. Very weird. Especially since it is all but 100 percent clear that
> he didn't do it, no matter what else he may have done.
>

Rather mysterious.
We've got some coverage on this murder case (several years ago) in
Germany, too, currently in the TV news.


>
> >>
> > Wow, "geeky"... - Thanks for this demonstration of the term :)
>
> geeky is an old term from carnival days, geeks were those that had physical
> deformities or other oddities about them, and the only decent living they
> could otherwise make was as carnival sideshow items. The term geek got more
> and more incorporated into the US English for person who considers
> themselves odd for one reason or another.
>

But you won't be "odd".
I guess if you say "geeky", it's meant ";)" this way (with a
wink smiley)?!
> >
>
[Philadelphia (Pennsylvania)]


>
> I can't say that I have anything but typical tourist stories this time.
>
> First, the hotel was the Sheraton in the very oldest part of town, very
> historic and very lovely.
> http://www.cn-turkey.com/world-wide-hotels/online-hotel-reservations.asp?HotelID=105462
> The first night, we got out and about and reexplored many part sof the city
> that I had seen many many times, and even lived near. Penn's Landing,
> www.pennslandingcorp.com/ ,
> Society Hill
> http://www.aviewoncities.com/philadelphia/societyhill.htm
>

They've got a famous Rodin Museum
www.aviewoncities.com/philadelphia/rodinmuseum.htm

The original (which I had visited) is in Paris
http://www.musee-rodin.fr/welcome.htm


> New Market
> http://www.ushistory.org/birch/plates/plate16.htm which used to house a
> large dairy
>
> South Street were all nicely refurbished and very lovely to visit. Many
> more attractions than I had ever seen in the past.
>
> http://www.southstreet.com/
>
> South Street was full of new eateries and shopping places. It was once
> famous for the 1960's hippies
> http://www.lyricsdownload.com/orlons-south-street-lyrics.html
>
> then the next decade brought punk rockers
>
> now it's commerce and fun
>

Thanks very, very much for those great sites!
I made your lovely "guided tour" available at the Haplif.net, too
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING/msg/5a4cd71e8fe4d1ff?&hl=en


> here's a link to some famous Philly food
> http://www.elliottsamazing.com/phlfood.html
>
> I filled up on some of my favorites while there, especially Tasty Kakes and
> soft pretzels
>

I guess I'd love those special "Mustard Pretzels" :)

> South Street is also tourist heaven for getting a famous Philadelphia Philly
> Cheese Steak.
> Most tourists are steered to either Pat's or Jim's. But, we tried a new one
> called SOS which I think stands for Steaks on South. Although my companion
> had a steak sandwich, I had a just as famous meatball sandwich.
>
> The next day the entire class attended a banquet at a restaurant called
> Ploughs and Stars. I was shocked that no one out of a group of more than 30,
> many with Irish backgrounds, recognized the origin of the name as an Irish
> play from the early 1900s. I was fascinated to see that a movie of this
> play was produced as well. http://poll.imdb.com/title/tt0028112//
>
> I sat across from a person who I had met several years earlier and got to
> know her better. She told me about a person who was "incompetent" and was
> talking about satellites the entire time. Naturally they thought she was
> talking about seeing aliens. Turns out she thought the aliens were
> plentiful because of all the "satellite parking" signs in the area.
>
> Definitions of Satellite Parking on the Web:
>
> a.. Also known as Park 'n Ride, satellite parking is located on airport
> property, but is not directly connected to the main terminal building, and
> so offers cheaper parking rates than the parking garages
> www.orlandoairports.net/goaa/glossary.htm
>

Yes, also in Germany we have those Park&Ride facilities (as copied from
the American lifestyle).

> It's hard to judge a restaurant in a banquet atmosphere, but it was really
> very observant of the Irish pub look.. The salmon dinner was quite good,
> but oddly they made one of the best mojitos I have ever had.
>

Lovely!


>
> The final night, I went seeking the Painted Bride Art Gallery, a place I had
> gone many times in the past.

> It moved to just around the corner from our Phila office. Unfortunately,
> there did not seem to be any activity in the summer although the rest of


> the year they have excellent performances and music. The facade of the
> building is http://paintedbride.org/ apparent a little from this shot on the
> website, a most interesting glittery mosaic.
>

Yeah!


> Then, for evening, I went alone (as mostly no one else had as far a trip as
> I to Roanoke and had all gone) to a restaurant, the Amada.
> http://amadarestaurant.com/
> Really incredible tapas. I like that more than meals, because you can taste

> so many more things. They had REAL anchovies, not fillets, which I love. I


> had my dinner at the end of the bar pictured here.
>

Wow, very nice...

> Check out the menu as it
> is truly worth it. Here's a list of the specialty cocktails, which have
> very sexy names and also, the ones I sampled were out of this world.
>
> SPECIALTY COCKTAILS
>
> BAD EDUCATION / Orange Mojito w/ Fresh Mint & Lime
>
> LABYRINTH OF PASSION / Passion Fruit & Melon Margarita
>
> LAW OF DESIRE / Ginger Lime Martini
>
> TALK TO HER / Spiced Pear Cognac Martini w/ White Wine
>
> HIGH HEELS / Ruby Red / Grapefruit Mimosa
>
> MATADOR / Pomegranate Cosmo w/ Raspberry Liqueur
>
> TIE ME UP TIE ME DOWN / Lemon Rosemary / Martini
>
> ALL ABOUT MY MOTHER / Lavender White grape Gimlet
>
> WOMEN ON THE VERGE OF A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN / Mango & Coconut Colada
>

Cute cocktails names - indeed sort of sexy :)

> In case you are wondering, but maybe not, I am still angry and depressed.
> This trip to Philadelphia reminded me how much I love this city, and how
> much more I love it than DC/ And how much, although I love my house, how
> much I despise Roanoke living.
>

I'm feeling with you...
>

> "A rip that heals behind, the only trace of you
> Like beads upon a string, your necklace left behind
> A path that blurs and slowly vanishes from sight
> We hear your voice, a shriek of triumph"--polly moller, auroria
>

More:
http://www.silverwheel.com/lyrics_sland.html

marika

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"Frank Kalder" <edi...@haplif.de> wrote in message
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> But you won't be "odd".
> I guess if you say "geeky", it's meant ";)" this way (with a
> wink smiley)?!
>> >

actually no. I am probably, from most people's perspectives, odd. Or so I
have been told in other words. Eccentric is a word commonly used about me.
Whatever. This may be why although I do poorly at interviews, I am
nonetheless good at what I do.

>>
> [Philadelphia (Pennsylvania)]
>>
>> I can't say that I have anything but typical tourist stories this time.
>>
>> First, the hotel was the Sheraton in the very oldest part of town, very
>> historic and very lovely.
>> http://www.cn-turkey.com/world-wide-hotels/online-hotel-reservations.asp?HotelID=105462
>> The first night, we got out and about and reexplored many part sof the
>> city
>> that I had seen many many times, and even lived near. Penn's Landing,
>> www.pennslandingcorp.com/ ,
>> Society Hill
>> http://www.aviewoncities.com/philadelphia/societyhill.htm
>>
> They've got a famous Rodin Museum
> www.aviewoncities.com/philadelphia/rodinmuseum.htm

The Rodin Museum, which I have visited on more than one occasion in the
past, is on the central west side, in the same area as the Philadelphia
Museum shown often in the movie "Rocky". It wasn't truly convenient for us
to get to, and definitely not on days where we were in classes 9-5.


>
> The original (which I had visited) is in Paris
> http://www.musee-rodin.fr/welcome.htm

I would like to see it also--since i am pretty sure i will never have the
opportunity, i guess this virtual tour will have to do.
.

>
>
>> New Market
>> http://www.ushistory.org/birch/plates/plate16.htm which used to house a
>> large dairy
>>
>> South Street were all nicely refurbished and very lovely to visit. Many
>> more attractions than I had ever seen in the past.
>>
>> http://www.southstreet.com/
>>
>> South Street was full of new eateries and shopping places. It was once
>> famous for the 1960's hippies
>> http://www.lyricsdownload.com/orlons-south-street-lyrics.html
>>
>> then the next decade brought punk rockers
>>
>> now it's commerce and fun
>>
>
> Thanks very, very much for those great sites!
> I made your lovely "guided tour" available at the Haplif.net, too
> http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING/msg/5a4cd71e8fe4d1ff?&hl=en
>
>
>> here's a link to some famous Philly food
>> http://www.elliottsamazing.com/phlfood.html
>>
>> I filled up on some of my favorites while there, especially Tasty Kakes
>> and
>> soft pretzels
>>
> I guess I'd love those special "Mustard Pretzels" :)

something slightly reminiscent of Bavaria about it?

yes, but do you have any aliens from another planet using them?

or perhaps geeks such as me?

mk5000

"LOL!! Mate, I was *born* confused. "--Shaun. ~misfit~


marika

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>
> "Frank Kalder" <edi...@haplif.de> wrote in message
> news:1155284620.8...@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>
> more on the bargain basement purchases during the visit home.
>
> I'm not so sure if someone actually SOLD a defective broken
> grapefruit shaped bird, so much as I am sure my father PURCHASED
> a defective broken grapefruit shaped bird. It was probably in a
> pile of junk in the corner of the store, labeled for trash, but
> maybe it still had a $29.99 sticker on it, from before it's
> unfortunate and untimely appendage fractures occured, and so
> he offered them a dollar for it, convinced it was a rare bargain
> find. If you owned the store, wouldn't YOU take a buck from a
> crazy old Einstein/Curly Stooge look-a-like, for a broken
> imitation stone-blob in the trash, too?
>
> So it's sitting in the bottom of a camelia pot, one of Ma's pretty
> indoor plants, in the living room now. There's this nice pot, and
> pretty plant, and this $1 BLOB in the bottom of the pot. And my father
> smiles and picks it up and cradles it when he shows it to you....
> kind of like Carol Maryl from The Price is Right. Umm- dad- IT'S
> A BLOB!!!
>


The Pataki update

Pataki is also a great name for a bird, because in Ukrainian, the word for
bird is ptakh.

Anyway, my father has been collecting feathers in the backyard. He has one
from a bluejay and a whole bunch of brown ones from the catbird. He has
affixed the feathers to the bird's butt end to make a lovely tail.

For a beak, he has drilled in a screw. Looks pretty good.

I wonder if he can get about a thousand for this inventive craft at one of
the US craft shows.

I absolutely love it.

mk5000

"You also think a skink is a bad
smell, instead of a small, insect-eating lizard. "--ivan
gowtch


Frank Kalder

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Aug 20, 2006, 3:38:56 AM8/20/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> ... I am probably, from most people's perspectives, odd. Or so I

> have been told in other words. Eccentric is a word commonly used about me.
> Whatever. This may be why although I do poorly at interviews, I am
> nonetheless good at what I do.
>
Yep, (1) maybe & (2) sure.


> > [Philadelphia (Pennsylvania)]
> >>
> >> ...

> >> Society Hill
> >> http://www.aviewoncities.com/philadelphia/societyhill.htm
> >>
> > They've got a famous Rodin Museum
> > www.aviewoncities.com/philadelphia/rodinmuseum.htm
>
> The Rodin Museum, which I have visited on more than one occasion in the
> past, is on the central west side, in the same area as the Philadelphia
> Museum shown often in the movie "Rocky". It wasn't truly convenient for us
> to get to, and definitely not on days where we were in classes 9-5.
> >
> > The original (which I had visited) is in Paris
> > http://www.musee-rodin.fr/welcome.htm
>
> I would like to see it also--since i am pretty sure i will never have the
> opportunity, i guess this virtual tour will have to do.
> .

Same applies to me, vice versa: I might probably never come to Phila...
Only virtual touring (which is pretty inspiring, though)!


>
> >>
> > I guess I'd love those special "Mustard Pretzels" :)
>
> something slightly reminiscent of Bavaria about it?
>

O yeah, perhaps,
Weißwurst mit süßem Senf & Bretzel :)

> >> ... Also known as Park 'n Ride, satellite parking is located on airport


> >> property, but is not directly connected to the main terminal building,
> >> and
> >> so offers cheaper parking rates than the parking garages
> >> www.orlandoairports.net/goaa/glossary.htm
> >>
> > Yes, also in Germany we have those Park&Ride facilities (as copied from
> > the American lifestyle).
> >
>
> yes, but do you have any aliens from another planet using them?
>
> or perhaps geeks such as me?
>

Yöi-yöi-yöi ;)


>
>
> "LOL!! Mate, I was *born* confused."--Shaun. ~misfit~
>

~ Genetic deficiency ~ ;)


[mk ...]


> > So it's sitting in the bottom of a camelia pot, one of Ma's pretty
> > indoor plants, in the living room now. There's this nice pot, and
> > pretty plant, and this $1 BLOB in the bottom of the pot. And my father
> > smiles and picks it up and cradles it when he shows it to you....
> > kind of like Carol Maryl from The Price is Right. Umm- dad- IT'S
> > A BLOB!!!
>
> The Pataki update
>
> Pataki is also a great name for a bird, because in Ukrainian, the word for
> bird is ptakh.
>
> Anyway, my father has been collecting feathers in the backyard. He has one
> from a bluejay and a whole bunch of brown ones from the catbird. He has
> affixed the feathers to the bird's butt end to make a lovely tail.
>
> For a beak, he has drilled in a screw. Looks pretty good.
>

Good idea - very creative :)


>
> I wonder if he can get about a thousand for this inventive craft at one of
> the US craft shows.
>
> I absolutely love it.
>

I'll keep my fingers crossed!


>
> "You also think a skink is a bad
> smell, instead of a small, insect-eating lizard."--ivan
> gowtch
>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skink &
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacertidae

Very nice... (skinks won't "stink").

marika

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"Frank Kalder" <edi...@haplif.de> wrote in message
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> > [Philadelphia (Pennsylvania)]
> >>
> >> ...

Your quoting is busted again. You have lived in US so your desire to see
Philadelphia is not all that surprising.
I on the other hand have seen nothing of continental Europe ever, (unless
you count Vienna which to me is still East) and so, am sorry that I am not
likely to.
It's not a lack of desire. I have a genuine desire to see Paris. And the
rest of the world.


Tomorrow I start my old job in earnest. Who knows what that will be like.
I will be apprehensive.
I will travel to Roanoke today, who knows what the flights will be like what
with these new no fluid rules

mk5000

"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action." - Johann
Goethe


marika

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"Frank Kalder" <edi...@haplif.de> wrote in message
news:1156059535.9...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

>
> Pataki is also a great name for a bird, because in Ukrainian, the word for
> bird is ptakh.
>


I learned a new word this weekend.

Some time ago, with Gogu, we discussed Izbas -- the houses on stilts.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/bdb2627db0d362e8?dmode=source&hl=en
This weekend I learned that the border of some other houses are made of
mud/clay and create almost a bench or porch type structure. This is called
the pryzba.

Old people sit there and warm themselves while watching the kids or
embroider or perform similar more sedentary tasks.

In the meantime, the NY Times this weekend had a great deal of coverage on
issues Russian. One thing that surprised me -- the use of and understanding
of Russian is rapidly declining

mk5000

"The English have no respect for
their language, and will not teach their children to speak it. They spell it
so abominably that no man can teach himself what it sounds like. It is
impossible for an Englishman to open his mouth without making some other
Englishman hate or despise him. German and Spanish are accessible to
foreigners: English is not accessible even to Englishmen. "--George Bernard
Shaw


marika

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marika wrote:
>
> I have also noted the relative absence of hurricane predictions this year.
> Although they certainly will occur. Some believe they will hit a more
> northerly Atlantic location this time, owing to the extreme heat that has
> affected ocean currents. DC and New England are expected to be affected.
>
> Dont' know how much you may watch CNN weather and the Weather Channel, but
> some years back for some odd reason, the wxcrew -- professional tv people
> refer to weather as wx -- are no longer good enough to be merely
> meteorologists or wxcrew.
>
> No, now they're "Severe Weather Specialists".
>
>
> I thought meteorologist sounded cooler and more sophisticated myself.
>
>
> CNN bosses )they own the WX Channel) have forced the Wx Channel into being
>
>
> "The Hurricane Authority"
>
> I would NEVER look at anyone other than WxChannel as authority on severe wx
> . . .
>
>
> at least in tv media
>
>
> but, that's just geeky me.
>


on my way home, i picked up a copy of national geographic, hurricane
predicting science is on the cover.

did you happen to see or is any one in asia aware of the recently weird
monsoon weather affecting china.

specifically that areas that are not normally hit by such weather are,
and those that expect and need such weather are experiencing drought.

this fits in with the scenario i have been worrying about

i told my dad to lay in much fresh water, canned food and check the
generator

i still think they are hitting farther north than before, from dc to
new england.

in the meantime, trying to test what is going on with the browser
tripped over this nice song

mk5000

"When You Put Your Hands On Me"

When you put your hands on me..
When you put your hands on me..

I don't know about the travel of time
And I've never seen most of the world
I don't know
Diving out of the sky
Or living like the diamonds
of pearls

See I haven't danced to a musical tune
And I haven't noticed the flowers in bloom
I haven't smiled
When alone in my room very much
Then we touched

[Chorus:]
I just know
When you put your hands on me
I feel sexy
And my body turns to gold
I just know
When you put your hands on me
I feel ready
And I lose my self-control

When you put your hands on me..

I don't know if a doll can unwind
Or how to make a person go
I don't know how to be what you like
And simply open up the depth of my soul

So I keep my wings
And my eyes on the down
Ready for nothing
But holding my ground
I haven't used
A particular noun very much
Then we touched

[Chorus]

When you put your hands on me..
When you put your hands on me..

I won't notice
Or pay you no mind
Boy I couldn't care less
What you do with your time
Your fingertips on my hips
Just move me like one of a kind

When you put your hands on me
I feel so sexy
And my body turns to gold
I just know
When you put your hands on me
I feel ready
And I lose my self-control

Frank Kalder

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Aug 21, 2006, 3:30:16 AM8/21/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:

>
>
>

[Philadelphia (Pennsylvania)]
> > >>
> > >> ...


>
>
> Your quoting is busted again.
>

Hope it's OK this time...

> You have lived in US so your desire to see
> Philadelphia is not all that surprising.
>

After all, it's a shame that I had never visited that beautiful city
with its great history although it is indeed very close to New York. I
only came across there on a business trip /with the Amtrak train
shuttle/ to DC - without any stop over, though.

> I on the other hand have seen nothing of continental Europe ever, (unless
> you count Vienna which to me is still East) and so, am sorry that I am not
> likely to.
>

The real East begins at Austria's border to Hungary (which is not far
from Vienna). But Poland and the Czech Republic also belong to the East
although they are more westward, i.e. adjacent to Germany.

> It's not a lack of desire. I have a genuine desire to see Paris. And the
> rest of the world.
>

O yeah...


>
> Tomorrow I start my old job in earnest. Who knows what that will be like.
> I will be apprehensive.
>

Good luck for your today's start-up!


>
> I will travel to Roanoke today, who knows what the flights will be like what
> with these new no fluid rules
>

> "There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action." - Johann
> Goethe
>

Hopefully I won't appear to be ignorant ;)

I read with great interest your other post on izbas and pryzba. And I
liked the G.B.S. quote...

What do you mean with "the use of and understanding of Russian is
rapidly declining" - perhaps at the NY Times or maybe elsewhere?

"When You Put Your Hands On Me" - yeah, very beautiful lyrics in that
song :)

To the implications of Chinese weather (monsoons and droughts) I've
got no further details. We can watch occasionally some extreme wx
issues in Fareast on German TV, too.

You may enjoy the new ANASTACIA FASHION in the Haplif.net
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-DESIGNER-FASHION/msg/185df0def3a1959b?&hl=en

marika

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Aug 21, 2006, 7:16:13 PM8/21/06
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Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> > Your quoting is busted again.
> >
> Hope it's OK this time...

it's never a problem in google, just internet explorer
outlook scored more quiet negative points from me on that.

>
> > You have lived in US so your desire to see
> > Philadelphia is not all that surprising.
> >
> After all, it's a shame that I had never visited that beautiful city
> with its great history although it is indeed very close to New York. I
> only came across there on a business trip /with the Amtrak train
> shuttle/ to DC - without any stop over, though.
>


> > I on the other hand have seen nothing of continental Europe ever, (unless
> > you count Vienna which to me is still East) and so, am sorry that I am not
> > likely to.
> >
> The real East begins at Austria's border to Hungary (which is not far
> from Vienna).

I know that. but it still feels like i have missed out on something
by not having seen more

>But Poland and the Czech Republic also belong to the East
> although they are more westward, i.e. adjacent to Germany.

well then i guess vienna counts, but that is my entire exposure to
continental europe then

>
> > It's not a lack of desire. I have a genuine desire to see Paris. And the
> > rest of the world.
> >
> O yeah...
> >
> > Tomorrow I start my old job in earnest. Who knows what that will be like.
> > I will be apprehensive.
> >
> Good luck for your today's start-up!

i guess it could be worse

> >
> > I will travel to Roanoke today, who knows what the flights will be like what
> > with these new no fluid rules

>
> > "There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action." - Johann
> > Goethe
> >
> Hopefully I won't appear to be ignorant ;)

ok good luck to you on that
that's interesting coming from you and your upbringing
- - - I need to look at my own assumptions about you
then . . .

>
> I read with great interest your other post on izbas and pryzba.

---fyne.

>And I
> liked the G.B.S. quote...

it captured all the things I was trying to explain to you, so it
would make sense. I think of all the things I
repeatedly asked, or
this; or this. I was thinking it could help put my
stuff into perspective for you.

>
> What do you mean with "the use of and understanding of Russian is
> rapidly declining" - perhaps at the NY Times or maybe elsewhere?

the ny times reports that the number of russian speakers worldwide
declines. they did a count and it shows that by 2025, russian speakers
will drop significantly. the only place where there is an increase is
in the baltics, but that small increase will not affect the overall
rapid decline.
- - - Sorry you got confused, and of COURSE I no
longer have the original newspaper so I could not try to
straighten you out in more research oriented fashion
The article really put a lot in perspective.


>
> "When You Put Your Hands On Me" - yeah, very beautiful lyrics in that
> song :)
>
> To the implications of Chinese weather (monsoons and droughts) I've
> got no further details.

heard it on tv while waking up sunday. I thought that was extremely
odd i couldn't find anything on it elsewhere. I think it's way cool
to
explain this stuff to someone who truly is interested,

>We can watch occasionally some extreme wx
> issues in Fareast on German TV, too.
>
> You may enjoy the new ANASTACIA FASHION in the Haplif.net
> http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-DESIGNER-FASHION/msg/185df0def3a1959b?&hl=en
>


she's therefore third from the left and right

It's all very confusing. So complicated.

on fashion, i just read that karl lagerfeld has designed a 'finger
free' glove look, picture of lindsay lohan in a white leather version
that is said to be very impractical

he's apparently doing a spin on his catamoufle motif!!!!!

mk5000

'i got three orchids first, to represent me, my mom and my
sister'--kelis on her tattoos

marika

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marika wrote:


> > To the implications of Chinese weather (monsoons and droughts) I've
> > got no further details.
>
> heard it on tv while waking up sunday. I thought that was extremely
> odd i couldn't find anything on it elsewhere. I think it's way cool
> to
> explain this stuff to someone who truly is interested,
>

apparently someone agrees with me. but they just won't come out and
admit that dc is the expected landing site this year

>
"Worst is yet to come, US hurricane chief says"
(Source: Reuters, 8/22/06)

MIAMI, Aug 22 (Reuters) - If you thought the sight of the great
American jazz city New Orleans flooded to the eaves -- its people
trapped in attics or cowering on rooftops -- was the nightmare
hurricane scenario, think again.

Max Mayfield, director of the U.S. National Hurricane Center, says
there's plenty of potential for a storm worse than Hurricane Katrina
which killed 1,339 people along the U.S. Gulf coast and caused some
$80 billion in damage last August.

"People think we have seen the worst. We haven't," Mayfield told
Reuters in an interview at the fortress-like hurricane center in
Florida.

"I think the day is coming. I think eventually we're going to have a
very powerful hurricane in a major metropolitan area worse than what
we saw in Katrina and it's going to be a mega-disaster. With lots of
lost lives," Mayfield said.

"I don't know whether that's going to be this year or five years from
now or a hundred years from now. But as long as we continue to develop
the coastline like we are, we're setting up for disaster."

Looking back nearly a year to the costliest natural disaster in U.S.
history, and the third-worst hurricane in terms of American lives
lost, Mayfield said Katrina itself could have been a greater disaster.

By Friday night, more than two days before the storm struck the Gulf
coast on Aug. 29, the hurricane center had predicted its future track
accurately and also warned it could become a powerful Category 4 storm
on the five-step Saffir Simpson scale of hurricane intensity.

New Orleans was squarely in the danger zone, and emergency managers
and residents had plenty of time to prepare.

"One of my greatest fears is having people go to bed at night prepared
for a Category 1 and waking up to a Katrina or Andrew. One of these
days, that's going to happen," Mayfield said.

Katrina went just to the east of New Orleans, sparing the city the
worst of a massive storm surge and the strongest winds. But still the
city's protective levees failed.

VULNERABLE CITIES

The worst-case hurricane scenario? Mayfield has many in mind. A
stronger hurricane closer to New Orleans. A direct hit on the
vulnerable Galveston-Houston area, the fragile Florida Keys or heavily
populated Miami-Fort Lauderdale.

Or how about a major hurricane racing up the east coast to the New
York-New Jersey area, with its millions of people and billions of
dollars of pricey real estate?

"One of the highest storm surges possible anywhere in the country is
where Long Island juts out at nearly right angles to the New Jersey
coast. They could get 25 to 30 feet (7.6 to 9.1 metres) of storm surge
... even going up the Hudson River," Mayfield said.

"The subways are going to flood. Some people might think 'Hey, I'll go
into the subways and I'll be safe.' No, they are going to flood."

Mayfield, a silver-haired, 34-year veteran of the hurricane center who
became its public face in 2000, is a tireless campaigner for hurricane
preparation, warning the 50 million people who live in U.S. coastal
counties from Maine to Texas that they are all in the path of a future
storm.

He is mystified by a study that found 60 percent of people in
hurricane-prone U.S. coastal areas have no hurricane plan -- which to
disaster managers means up to a week's worth of food and water
squirreled away, a kit with flashlights and other gear and an
established evacuation route to higher ground.

"After Katrina and after the last two hurricane seasons you can't
understand why more people are not taking hurricanes seriously,"
Mayfield said.

Katrina, he says, killed people who stayed in their homes with
confidence because they had lived through 1969's Hurricane Camille.
Camille was a much stronger storm than Katrina when it crashed ashore
in Louisiana and Mississippi as one of only three Category 5s to hit
the United States in recorded history.

"There were a lot of people who lost their lives because they thought
that they had already lived through the worst they could possibly live
through," Mayfield said.

"Experience isn't always a good teacher."

Frank Kalder

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Aug 23, 2006, 6:17:18 AM8/23/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> > >
>
[Quotes]

> it's never a problem in google, just internet explorer
> outlook scored more quiet negative points from me on that.
>
> >
[Europe]

> > The real East begins at Austria's border to Hungary (which is not far
> > from Vienna).
>
> I know that. but it still feels like i have missed out on something
> by not having seen more
>
> >But Poland and the Czech Republic also belong to the East
> > although they are more westward, i.e. adjacent to Germany.
>
> well then i guess vienna counts, but that is my entire exposure to
> continental europe then
>
> >
>
> >And I liked the G.B.S. quote...
>
> it captured all the things I was trying to explain to you, so it
> would make sense. I think of all the things I
> repeatedly asked, or
> this; or this. I was thinking it could help put my
> stuff into perspective for you.
>

O yeah, cute idea :)


> >
> > What do you mean with "the use of and understanding of Russian is
> > rapidly declining" - perhaps at the NY Times or maybe elsewhere?
>
> the ny times reports that the number of russian speakers worldwide
> declines. they did a count and it shows that by 2025, russian speakers
> will drop significantly. the only place where there is an increase is
> in the baltics, but that small increase will not affect the overall
> rapid decline.
> - - - Sorry you got confused, and of COURSE I no
> longer have the original newspaper so I could not try to
> straighten you out in more research oriented fashion
> The article really put a lot in perspective.
>

Thanks for the supplement. It's probably quite clear that, after
socialism / communism are out-dated, there's no more need to learn
Russian outside its historic and rudimental area of influence, I
suppose.

>
> > To the implications of Chinese weather (monsoons and droughts) I've
> > got no further details.
>
> heard it on tv while waking up sunday. I thought that was extremely
> odd i couldn't find anything on it elsewhere. I think it's way cool
> to
> explain this stuff to someone who truly is interested,
>

Thanks for the additional information in the other posting. I'll
print it and read it later.

>
>
> >We can watch occasionally some extreme wx
> > issues in Fareast on German TV, too.
> >
> > You may enjoy the new ANASTACIA FASHION in the Haplif.net
> > http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-DESIGNER-FASHION/msg/185df0def3a1959b?&hl=en
> >
> she's therefore third from the left and right
>

She's third from the right and forth from the left.

> It's all very confusing. So complicated.
>
> on fashion, i just read that karl lagerfeld has designed a 'finger
> free' glove look, picture of lindsay lohan in a white leather version
> that is said to be very impractical
>
> he's apparently doing a spin on his catamoufle motif!!!!!
>

> 'i got three orchids first, to represent me, my mom and my
> sister'--kelis on her tattoos
>

Going to be out of town and my notebook being in repair, I'll be
able, unfortunately, to reply only in a couple days (don't know when,
yet).

marika

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Frank Kalder wrote:


> > on fashion, i just read that karl lagerfeld has designed a 'finger
> > free' glove look, picture of lindsay lohan in a white leather version
> > that is said to be very impractical
> >
> > he's apparently doing a spin on his catamoufle motif!!!!!
> >

the article where i saw this talked about karl and lindsay lohan's
collaboration, and other goofy glove fashion trends.

but didn't talk about goofy and his gloves
http://images.google.com/images?q=goofy&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

or

the fashion trend allegedly started by brittney spears? in about 2001

to wear a white tube sock (the white cotton kind that people wear, with
sneakers, with a dark stripe that goes around the shin, and costs $2.49
at KMart)

she was wearing a tube sock with the toe part cut open, on her arm
so all these kids were wearing socks on their arms now
ok, so whatever, who cares, no biggie, right?
i mean, Michael Jackson wore one sequined glove 20 yrs ago
fashion, entertainment, fads... who cares.... whatever

here's the part that PISSES ME OFF....
clothing stores like Urban Outfitters were selling fashion arm socks
for like 20 bucks each.... spangle socks, "charm" socks.... call them
anything and everything, just as long as you can charge 10X the regular
price and get stupid kids to buy them

either i am getting really old, or kids are getting really stupid, or
both

doesn't this make you think you could start ANY trend at all, and get
rich, if you knew a famous person? i mean, if you made coat hangers,
all you'd have to do is ask your close personal friends 'N Sync to wear
coat hangers on their heads on their next tour and you could GET
RICH!!!! by selling fashion hangers for 20 bucks a piece!!!

mk5000

'we were all like workers, with the little hairnets and mouth
protectors and boots. it was pretty wild'--richard linklater on his
upcoming film, fast food nation

Frank Kalder

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Aug 30, 2006, 4:25:42 AM8/30/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
> > > on fashion, i just read that karl lagerfeld has designed a 'finger
> > > free' glove look, picture of lindsay lohan in a white leather version
> > > that is said to be very impractical
> > >
> > > he's apparently doing a spin on his catamoufle motif!!!!!
> > >
>
> the article where i saw this talked about karl and lindsay lohan's
> collaboration, and other goofy glove fashion trends.
>
> but didn't talk about goofy and his gloves
> http://images.google.com/images?q=goofy&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images
>
> or
>
> the fashion trend allegedly started by britney spears? in about 2001

>
> to wear a white tube sock (the white cotton kind that people wear, with
> sneakers, with a dark stripe that goes around the shin, and costs $2.49
> at KMart)
>
> she was wearing a tube sock with the toe part cut open, on her arm
> so all these kids were wearing socks on their arms now
> ok, so whatever, who cares, no biggie, right?
> i mean, Michael Jackson wore one sequined glove 20 yrs ago
> fashion, entertainment, fads... who cares.... whatever
>
> here's the part that PISSES ME OFF....
> clothing stores like Urban Outfitters were selling fashion arm socks
> for like 20 bucks each.... spangle socks, "charm" socks.... call them
> anything and everything, just as long as you can charge 10X the regular
> price and get stupid kids to buy them
>
> either i am getting really old, or kids are getting really stupid, or
> both
>
> doesn't this make you think you could start ANY trend at all, and get
> rich, if you knew a famous person? i mean, if you made coat hangers,
> all you'd have to do is ask your close personal friends 'N Sync to wear
> coat hangers on their heads on their next tour and you could GET
> RICH!!!! by selling fashion hangers for 20 bucks a piece!!!
>
I won't like to be in that sort of 'crazy business'. I won't
get rich there, but rather broke :)

>
> 'we were all like workers, with the little hairnets and mouth
> protectors and boots. it was pretty wild'--richard linklater on his
> upcoming film, fast food nation
>
;)

How are you meanwhile (after a week of disruption, on my side, as
previously announced)?

marika

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Aug 30, 2006, 6:19:59 PM8/30/06
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Frank Kalder wrote:

> >
> I won't like to be in that sort of 'crazy business'. I won't
> get rich there, but rather broke :)

if anyone could make head hangers popular, i am sure it would be you

> >
> > 'we were all like workers, with the little hairnets and mouth
> > protectors and boots. it was pretty wild'--richard linklater on his
> > upcoming film, fast food nation
> >
> ;)
>
> How are you meanwhile (after a week of disruption, on my side, as
> previously announced)?
>

ok i guess. i hope it was pleasant disruption due to pleasant travel.
any reports and observations?

mk5000

'Always live your life with your biography in mind,' Dad was fond of
saying. 'Naturally, it won't be published until you have a Magnificent
Reason, but at the very least you will be living grandly.' It was
painfully obvious Dad was hoping his posthumous biography would be
reminiscent not of Kissinger: The Man (Jones, 1982) or Dr. Rhythm:
Living with Bing (Grant, 1981) but something along the lines of the New
Testament or the Qu'ran."--Gareth Van Meer to blue in 'Special Topics
in Calamity Physics'
Marisha Pessl

Frank Kalder

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Aug 31, 2006, 3:06:21 AM8/31/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> >
> ... i hope it was pleasant disruption due to pleasant travel.
> any reports and observations?
>
Well, I was traveling in the area here only, seeing some family members
and friends - talking & walking. The weather was fresh (only 60F) and
it rained frequently. Besides some reading of various documentary stuff
and watching TV news evenings, I was completely off-line, which
meanwhile was a quite unusual experience, yet good for the soul and
generally for recreation...

Tonight, the MTW awards may be watched (at least partly).

It seems that the Middle East conflict [Israel/Hezbollah] is getting
settled slowly.
|| German Navy vessels, expected to be stationed off Lebanon as part of
a beefed up United Nations force, will not be used to disarm Hezbollah
militants [...] "Their mission is not to disarm Hezbollah. They are
supposed to restrict arms smuggling," said Deputy Chancellor Franz
Muentefering at a news briefing with Chancellor Angela Merkel. [...] No
final decision has been made on German naval units for UNIFIL but media
reports suggest up to 1,200 soldiers could be involved.||
http://rawstory.com/news/2006/German_Navy_won_t_disarm_Hezbollah__08292006.html


- IRAN -
|| Iran has repeatedly said it will not give up its right for nuclear
power, but indicated last week it could negotiate on the scope of the
plans, reinforcing U.N. powers China and Russia's resistance to any
immediate punitive measures.
Major powers will begin discussing an Iran sanctions resolution at a
meeting in Europe next week if Tehran continues to defy the U.N., the
U.S. State Department said on Wednesday, but even ally Britain has
played down any quick measures.||
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlebusiness.aspx?type=tnBusinessNews&storyID=nSP20504&imageid=top-news-view-2006-08-23-132352-RTR1GA9Q_Comp%5B1%5D.jpg&cap=A%20ship%20is%20connected%20to%20the%20Basra%20Oil%20Terminal,%2012%20nautical%20miles%20off%20the%20Iraqi%20coast.%20REUTERS/Thaier%20Al-Sudani&from=business

>
> 'Always live your life with your biography in mind,' Dad was fond of
> saying. 'Naturally, it won't be published until you have a Magnificent
> Reason, but at the very least you will be living grandly.' It was
> painfully obvious Dad was hoping his posthumous biography would be
> reminiscent not of Kissinger: The Man (Jones, 1982) or Dr. Rhythm:
> Living with Bing (Grant, 1981) but something along the lines of the New
> Testament or the Qu'ran."--Gareth Van Meer to blue in 'Special Topics
> in Calamity Physics' Marisha Pessl
>

http://gawker.com/news/top/industry-standard-how-hot-are-you-195516.php


Is it her?

marika

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Frank Kalder wrote:
> marika wrote:
> > Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> > >
> > ... i hope it was pleasant disruption due to pleasant travel.
> > any reports and observations?
> >
> Well, I was traveling in the area here only, seeing some family members
> and friends - talking & walking.
>The weather was fresh (only 60F) and
> it rained frequently.

we are right now having a great deal of rain in my noncoastal city, a
side effect of hurriance ernesto. it's much needed rain, so most don't
mind, except those that may be experiencing so called flash floods, but
that's only landfall one. the news is telling me that nc which is very
close to me is under serious flooding threat there and dc. how
interesting. as i said dc wasn't able to cope with simple
thunderstorms this summer, how will they manage with this onslaught.
my own building was just beginning to dry out when i left. let's just
hope that this rain is not accompanied by major winds.
depending what happens, any one could use the gov'ts help.

>Besides some reading of various documentary stuff
> and watching TV news evenings, I was completely off-line, which
> meanwhile was a quite unusual experience, yet good for the soul and
> generally for recreation...

what a pleasant time off for you

>
> Tonight, the MTW awards may be watched (at least partly).

i didn't really know, i will try and look in on it

>
> It seems that the Middle East conflict [Israel/Hezbollah] is getting
> settled slowly.

wouldn't that be something

wow yeah. the article i was reading about her only briefly toucher on
the dispute about her looks, so that you didn't really notice the two
line mention of the issue. they reviewed the book and i found it
intriguing.
my eyes are not enjoying reading lately, but this is one fiction book
that truly intrigued me enough and it sounded very inventively
original.

http://images.google.com/images?q=+Marisha+Pessl&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

the last one with the short hair isn't her, by the way.

the book cover with the rose is also really pretty
book companies spend so much money on promoting their books, this
little pretty but can she write thing probably ended up being so much
free publicity

in honor of mtv, a scene from the king of rock watching someone do his
music

mk5000

'Without breaking stride, Elvis . . . stormed into the lounge, walked
right up onstage, hoisted his cane like he was going clobber the guy
and said, 'If you're going to do it, do it right.''--jerry schilling,
'me and a guy named elvis'

marika

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Aug 31, 2006, 8:28:46 PM8/31/06
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Frank Kalder wrote:
> > doesn't this make you think you could start ANY trend at all, and get
> > rich, if you knew a famous person? i mean, if you made coat hangers,
> > all you'd have to do is ask your close personal friends 'N Sync to wear
> > coat hangers on their heads on their next tour and you could GET
> > RICH!!!! by selling fashion hangers for 20 bucks a piece!!!
> >
> I won't like to be in that sort of 'crazy business'. I won't
> get rich there, but rather broke :)
> >
>

here is evidence that you are making a very good business decision

,,--It looks like Justin Timberlake won't be at your local Cineplex
anytime soon, as his first major big screen role was in the
straight-to-video release Edison Force. Despite the presence of Oscar
darlings Morgan Freeman, and Kevin Spacey the film according to Variety

is a "Star studded B-Movie," which will land at your local video
store...>>--national enquirer

marika

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NY DAILY NEWS/RICHARD HUFF....
--Calling all young, sexy, singer-dancer wanna-bes: The CW is looking
for a new Pussycat Doll. The group, responsible for such hits as "Don't

Cha" and "Buttons," will add to its ranks through a reality show set to

debut next season. Casting for the series, called "The Search for the
Next Pussycat Doll," will begin immediately. Pussycat Doll founder
Robin Antin will oversee the young women, who will live together and
have their singing and dancing abilities tested. As with other
competition reality shows, some elements of the "Next Pussycat Doll"
search will air live. The Pussycat Dolls, who include Ashley Roberts,
Melody Thornton, Kimberly Wyatt, Nicole Scherzinger, Carmit Bachar and
Jessica Sutta, will all be part of the show.

marika

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Aug 31, 2006, 9:27:14 PM8/31/06
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FFrank Kalder wrote:
> Tonight, the MTW awards may be watched (at least partly).
>

a couple of years ago, my friend was at work, just trying to do a
normal night's massacre of her on-air signal, when somebody stuck MTV2
in a router.

about 2:10 am, she looked up a caught a brief glimpse of something that
looked like the TV station, in Charlottesville where she once worked.
charlottesville is only a little bit north of here and is famous for
where united states 3rd president thomas jefferson, drafter of our
declaration of independence lived. i visited that famous estate
monticello a few years ago, where her dad is buried. also that
president is on one of our dollars and some of our coins, as is his
monticello. . . anyway the tv station has this distinctive blue
horizontal paneling with DATELINE NEWS across the top.

Then, she thought she saw some graying images of on-air types she used
to work with

There were about half a dozen shots from this in the video that was
accidentally piping through her console. . . then she figured out
its Dave Matthews, and maybe it IS the old tv station.

Anyway, she got on the net, and was her old station WITH almost all the
same dudes doing news since she left a couple hundred years ago

Look for it, called Everyday, on MTV2, or at your own convenience, for
confirmation purposes, and http://www.dmband.com/# Apparently, Dave
Matthews is pushing it pretty hard, because they put the video on the
web AND MTV's # so you can call and request it!

you will get a kick out of this story
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Matthews

dave matthews is from south africa, but his grandfather went to
university of virginia because he was also from charlottesville where
jefferson lived

so dave moved to charlottesville too, and that has now become his
official home
THIS was pretty wild in the middle of the night!

. . . and to think i get to see Virginia Piedmont all day long! and
charlottesville is only just up the road a piece

mk5000

'The sky was a yellowish color, the color she had only seen once, when
there was a sandstorm. The sun was blotted out, but there was still
light, diffuse golden light.'--mary ccalled magdalene, margaret george

:)

marika

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marika wrote:
> a couple of years ago, my friend was at work, just trying to do a
> normal night's massacre of her on-air signal, when somebody stuck MTV2
> in a router.

jennifer lopez mentioned that they will launch mtv tres shortly

re your comments on war settlement; some sort of strange controversy
brewing about something donald rumsfeld said today, which i haven't
quite grasped, but he's being criticized by both parties as stirring
trouble and frightening the citizens instead of calming them

and then of course the hurricane has made landfall in nc, much farther
south than the predicted florida key location

mk5000

"We were masters of nature, masters of the world. We had forgotten
everything-death, fatigue, our natural needs. Stronger than cold or
hunger, stronger than the shots and the desire to die, condemned and
wandering, mere numbers, we were the only men on earth." --elie wiesel,
night

marika

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did you see them perform and get their award/

mk5000

"awe-struck as if before something super-natural,"--lt col james
paterson

marika

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marika wrote:
> here is evidence that you are making a very good business decision
>
> ,,--It looks like Justin Timberlake won't be at your local Cineplex
> anytime soon, as his first major big screen role was in the
> straight-to-video release Edison Force. Despite the presence of Oscar
> darlings Morgan Freeman, and Kevin Spacey the film according to Variety
>
> is a "Star studded B-Movie," which will land at your local video
> store...>>--national enquirer

now WHY was justin fixing a shelf in jack black's dressing room?

mk5000

<<get up to behind closed
doors, it's not acting lessons. Because despite going out with one of
Holly wood's hottest stars, JT's movie career is off to a bad start.
His acting debut as a reporter in cop drama Edison Force is going
straight to vid. The film, which co-stars Oscar-winners Kevin Spacey
and Morgan Freeman, will never make the big screen after lousy reviews.

Let's hope JT - whose pop comeback is looking decidedly more successful

- is less sensitive about the flick than his teenage relationship with
Britney Spears. The 25-year-old has broken his silence and it seems he
is still bitter. Comparing their romance to what he has with Cam, 33,
he said: "It was so high school. When we par ted ways, I felt like she
had a couple of opportunities to stick up for me and she didn't."
Awww.>>

Frank Kalder

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Sep 1, 2006, 4:39:48 AM9/1/06
to
marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
>
> we are right now having a great deal of rain in my noncoastal city, a
> side effect of hurriance ernesto. it's much needed rain, so most don't
> mind, except those that may be experiencing so called flash floods, but
> that's only landfall one. the news is telling me that nc which is very
> close to me is under serious flooding threat there and dc. how
> interesting. as i said dc wasn't able to cope with simple
> thunderstorms this summer, how will they manage with this onslaught.
> my own building was just beginning to dry out when i left. let's just
> hope that this rain is not accompanied by major winds.
> depending what happens, any one could use the gov'ts help.
>
I read the other supplementary posts (on the WX situation), too.

> > Tonight, the MTW awards may be watched (at least partly).
>
> i didn't really know, i will try and look in on it
>

Yeah, I watched the first part (which started in Germany at 2 am).
Fascinating performances in the breathtaking scenery within the
Rockefeller Center and around Fifth Avenue! They also showed the RCA
building's 'observation deck' with its terrific vistas (day &
night).

> 'Without breaking stride, Elvis . . . stormed into the lounge, walked
> right up onstage, hoisted his cane like he was going clobber the guy
> and said, 'If you're going to do it, do it right.''--jerry schilling,
> 'me and a guy named elvis'
>

I further enjoyed reading your several other yesterday's posts, too
:)

***

The German actress, moderator and columnist ARIANE SOMMER

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1077985/ &
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0780059/fullcredits

describes here

http://specials.bunte.de/bunte/blog/flog16/index.php?action=blogsession&dclp=b4304d4b213bc6fd0b26bbb9bf17364f

her experience at the casting for "Kings of South Beach" and at the
film locations in Puerto Rico and Miami Beach.

marika

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Sep 1, 2006, 8:19:21 PM9/1/06
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Frank Kalder wrote:

> I read the other supplementary posts (on the WX situation), too.
>
> > > Tonight, the MTW awards may be watched (at least partly).
> >
> > i didn't really know, i will try and look in on it
> >
> Yeah, I watched the first part (which started in Germany at 2 am).

i am glad it was not a waste to be up that late, but you should feel
very happy that you tried your very best even through the end.

i can't wait to see it!!!

mk5000

"Why, you may take the most gallant sailor, the most intrepid airman or
the most audacious soldier, put them at a table together - what do you
get? The sum of their fears." - Winston Churchill

marika

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Sep 1, 2006, 8:31:36 PM9/1/06
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marika wrote:
> 'Without breaking stride, Elvis . . . stormed into the lounge, walked
> right up onstage, hoisted his cane like he was going clobber the guy
> and said, 'If you're going to do it, do it right.''--jerry schilling,
> 'me and a guy named elvis'

i'm watching president bush give a speech in tennessee and he's talking
about how he took the japanese prime minister to graceland.
and he's still talking about tax cuts, and tennessee crops as a source
of fuel

let's use elvis then to fuel our cars, as he's home grown

mk5000

'Stone cold crazy, you know
Walking down the street shooting people that I meet
With my rubber tommy water gun
Here come the deputy'--metallica

Frank Kalder

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Sep 2, 2006, 4:01:15 AM9/2/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
MTV Awards 2006:

> i am glad it was not a waste to be up that late, but you should feel
> very happy that you tried your very best even through the end.
>
Meanwhile, I saw a few more excerpts.

Particularly, Fergie at the opening show (on the red carpet) was a
highlight. And Beyoncé's performance with her group of dancers in
long coats was pretty much artistic.

What did you appreciate most?


["Kings of South Beach" (with Ariane Sommer)]
> > http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1077985 &
> > http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0780059/fullcredits
> > http://specials.bunte.de/bunte/blog/flog16/index.php?action=blogsession&dclp=b4304d4b213bc6fd0b26bbb9bf17364f


> >
> i can't wait to see it!!!
>

> Me too :)


>
> "Why, you may take the most gallant sailor, the most intrepid airman or
> the most audacious soldier, put them at a table together - what do you
> get? The sum of their fears." - Winston Churchill
> >

A rather strange conclusion ;)

Marika:


> > 'Without breaking stride, Elvis . . . stormed into the lounge, walked
> > right up onstage, hoisted his cane like he was going clobber the guy
> > and said, 'If you're going to do it, do it right.''--jerry schilling,
> > 'me and a guy named elvis'
>

> i'm watching president bush give a speech in tennessee and he's talking
> about how he took the japanese prime minister to graceland.
> and he's still talking about tax cuts, and tennessee crops as a source
> of fuel
>
> let's use elvis then to fuel our cars, as he's home grown
>

|| President Bush said the ethanol US scientists were exploring would
come from "wood chips, stalks, or switch grass [a tall, tough grass
mostly found in marshes]"||
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1699391,00.html

"Tennessee crops": Do you mean that "switch grass"?

>
> 'Stone cold crazy, you know
> Walking down the street shooting people that I meet
> With my rubber tommy water gun
> Here come the deputy'--metallica
>

;)


The German "Angie" is now the FIRST
of 'The World's Most Powerful Women' [FORBES].

"Angela Merkel, the first woman to become chancellor of Germany, has
displaced Condoleezza Rice as No. 1 on our list of the 100 Most
Powerful Women".
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/11/06women_The-100-Most-Powerful-Women_land.html


Here, she's entering a submarine:
http://ilrestodelcarlino.quotidiano.net/2006/08/31/cuts/img195912.jpg

I'd suppose that Hillary Clinton will get on Forbes' No. 1 as soon
she becomes US president.

marika

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Sep 2, 2006, 11:58:09 AM9/2/06
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Frank Kalder wrote:
> marika wrote:
> > Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
> MTV Awards 2006:
> > i am glad it was not a waste to be up that late, but you should feel
> > very happy that you tried your very best even through the end.
> >
> Meanwhile, I saw a few more excerpts.
>
> Particularly, Fergie at the opening show (on the red carpet) was a
> highlight. And Beyoncé's performance with her group of dancers in
> long coats was pretty much artistic.
>
> What did you appreciate most?

This is essentially all fine, and i also enjoyed pink as a presented.
i think it was jared leto who accompanied her and insisted on saying
her name every 3rd word.

i think the thing i enjoyed the most, albeit mistakenly was when lou
reed came out to present. he said 'mtv you should play more rock' or
something similar. i took him to mean that they weren't featuring
enough music at all. what with all their reality programming and other
shows, they almost never play music now.

and so why do they really need an mtv tres. more reality shows?

but later at the postshow, an interviewer asked him what he meant and
he said that there should be at least half as much rock as hip hop

the interviewer said he would mention it to 'corporate', and of course
corporate is him whether or not he chooses to acknowledge it and denies
it by wearing spiky hair

lou reed should know better --mtv is about money not music, and
concentration on hip hop will naturally yield more money for them

then my second favorite moment was when axl rose came on and just stood
there for awhile

then he said, i agreed to do this because i met these guys -- (not sure
who these guys are) and really liked them but i am a really bad
presented

and then he just stood there and proved it. and introduced the next
guest. not very hard work

then, the third thing i enjoyed was when someone started promoting
something during a presentation 'buy blah blah', almost to the end of
the show,

then when they brought the camera on to jack black, he said "i think
that qualifies as the soybomb moment of 2006. uncool'

soybomb -- if you remember it - was when some guy ran up on stage and
screamed soybomb. this wasn't planned, no one could figure out who he
was, what soybomb was, or how he had got past guards

i really enjoyed this moment because earlier in the show, jack black's
partner in tenacious d stood amongst the black eyed peas and claimed he
had become one of them, replacing fergie. jack black and his partner
in tenacious d took that opportunity to write in plenty of stuff to
shamelessly promote their own commercial product. what a phony that
guy is.

later, tangentially, in the post show, the interviewer asked the black
eyed peas what they thought of fergie's debut because everyone knows he
is a perfectionist, and he responded, the performance was perfect

>
>
> ["Kings of South Beach" (with Ariane Sommer)]
> > > http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1077985 &
> > > http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0780059/fullcredits
> > > http://specials.bunte.de/bunte/blog/flog16/index.php?action=blogsession&dclp=b4304d4b213bc6fd0b26bbb9bf17364f
> > >
> > i can't wait to see it!!!
> >
> > Me too :)
> >
> > "Why, you may take the most gallant sailor, the most intrepid airman or
> > the most audacious soldier, put them at a table together - what do you
> > get? The sum of their fears." - Winston Churchill
> > >
> A rather strange conclusion ;)

not really as we had been talking much about peace negotiations and
other politics

>
> Marika:
> > > 'Without breaking stride, Elvis . . . stormed into the lounge, walked
> > > right up onstage, hoisted his cane like he was going clobber the guy
> > > and said, 'If you're going to do it, do it right.''--jerry schilling,
> > > 'me and a guy named elvis'
> >
> > i'm watching president bush give a speech in tennessee and he's talking
> > about how he took the japanese prime minister to graceland.
> > and he's still talking about tax cuts, and tennessee crops as a source
> > of fuel
> >
> > let's use elvis then to fuel our cars, as he's home grown
> >
> || President Bush said the ethanol US scientists were exploring would
> come from "wood chips, stalks, or switch grass [a tall, tough grass
> mostly found in marshes]"||
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1699391,00.html
>
> "Tennessee crops": Do you mean that "switch grass"?

bush didn't specify

>
> >
> > 'Stone cold crazy, you know
> > Walking down the street shooting people that I meet
> > With my rubber tommy water gun
> > Here come the deputy'--metallica
> >
> ;)
>
>
> The German "Angie" is now the FIRST
> of 'The World's Most Powerful Women' [FORBES].
>

marvelous

> "Angela Merkel, the first woman to become chancellor of Germany, has
> displaced Condoleezza Rice as No. 1 on our list of the 100 Most
> Powerful Women".
> http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/11/06women_The-100-Most-Powerful-Women_land.html
>
>
> Here, she's entering a submarine:
> http://ilrestodelcarlino.quotidiano.net/2006/08/31/cuts/img195912.jpg
>
> I'd suppose that Hillary Clinton will get on Forbes' No. 1 as soon
> she becomes US president.
>
>

it;s certainly possible, but i am still voting for benazir bhuto

mk5000

'you have to be pretty good to win against me'

marika

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marika wrote:
>
> This is essentially all fine, and i also enjoyed pink as a presented.
> i think it was jared leto who accompanied her and insisted on saying
> her name every 3rd word.

<<NY POST/By DON KAPLAN
--THE first glimpse viewers will get of the gritty new telecast "NBC
Sunday Night Football" will be Pink. The Grammy-winning pop singer Pink

- best known for the single "Get the Party Started" - has recorded the
opening music for the new pigskin program. The new tune is called
"Waiting All Day for Sunday Night" and, in a sense, it could turn Pink
into the next Hank Williams Jr. Williams is responsible for the theme
song to ABC's "Monday Night Football," which was dropped by the network

last year and will now air on ESPN. Meanwhile, a separate instrumental
theme for "Sunday Night Football" has been written by famed film
composer ("Star Wars," "Superman") John Williams.

--GWEN Stefani has had it with the MTV Video Music Awards. The "No
Doubt" cutie is said to be "boycotting" tomorrow's show because of the
shoddy treatment she got last year. "She had a ton of nominations and
was under the impression she would be taking home at least one award,"
our insider said. "But every award, except that lame best-dressed
award, went to Kelly Clarkson, and every time Kelly won, the camera
went straight to Gwen. She felt set up." Stefani also thought she was
going to close the show - another honor that went to Clarkson.
Stefani's rep declined comment.>>


don't know if they showed missy's mtv performance in clips. i
considered it really boring. she came out in a little motorized car
reminiscent of little clown cars in the circus. the pace of the song
made her sound like she'd smoked some dope. really boring

<<NY DAILY NEWS/RICHARD HUFF....--COMPETITION at the MTV Video Music
Awards is growing intense - for
who can throw the best party, that is. Missy Elliott and Ciara had a
"Dripping in Diamonds" pre-party last night at New York's swanky
Cipriani restaurant. Kelis, Jessica Simpson, Pharell Williams and
Common all hosted rival bashes.
Stars attending tomorrow night's awards at Radio City Music Hall will
also be showered with TVs, DVD players and digital cameras, courtesy of

Polaroid. Then after-parties will be held by 50 Cent, LL Cool J and
Beyonce.>>

other music observations, i watched a european concert film of frank
black and the pixies today. excellent. i think it's just called 'the
pixies'

bizarre term encountered today;

'internet hunting' -- chinese pasttime of identifying bad guys on line,
trying them by mob justice and then sentencing them and inflicting the
harm voted on. very strange and dangerous sounding

Frank Kalder

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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> > marika wrote:
> > > Frank Kalder wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > MTV Awards 2006:
>
> > > i am glad it was not a waste to be up that late, but you should feel
> > > very happy that you tried your very best even through the end.
> > >
> > Meanwhile, I saw a few more excerpts.
> >
> > Particularly, Fergie at the opening show (on the red carpet) was a
> > highlight. And Beyoncé's performance with her group of dancers in
> > long coats was pretty much artistic.
> >
> > What did you appreciate most?
>
> This is essentially all fine, and i also enjoyed pink as a presenter.
I enjoyed your views, some of the scenes described I had noticed, too.

Thanks for these reports [NY POST and NY DAILY]
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/1678206afb07164e?&hl=en
Gwen's "boycotting background" makes me feel sorry.


> >
> > ["Kings of South Beach" (with Ariane Sommer)]
> > > > http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1077985 &
> > > > http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0780059/fullcredits
> > > > http://specials.bunte.de/bunte/blog/flog16/index.php?action=blogsession&dclp=b4304d4b213bc6fd0b26bbb9bf17364f
> > > >
> > > i can't wait to see it!!!
> > >
> > > Me too :)
> > >
> > > "Why, you may take the most gallant sailor, the most intrepid airman or
> > > the most audacious soldier, put them at a table together - what do you
> > > get? The sum of their fears." - Winston Churchill
> > > >
> > A rather strange conclusion ;)
>
> not really as we had been talking much about peace negotiations and
> other politics
>

OK ;)

> > I'd suppose that Hillary Clinton will get on Forbes' No. 1 as soon as


> > she becomes US president.
> >
> >
>
> it's certainly possible, but i am still voting for benazir bhuto
>

No good news about her http://www.ncpa.org/pd/pdint63.html ...

>
> 'you have to be pretty good to win against me'
>

I won't want to win...
We're just exchanging information and various views, I guess.

marika

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Frank Kalder wrote:

> >
> > it's certainly possible, but i am still voting for benazir bhuto
> >
> No good news about her http://www.ncpa.org/pd/pdint63.html ...

the link 404'd. maybe i entered it wrong but i don't think so


>
> >
> > 'you have to be pretty good to win against me'
> >
> I won't want to win...
> We're just exchanging information and various views, I guess.
>
>

THAT was funny. it was a reference to the competitions such as the mtv
video awards and particularly gwen's hard feeling. (not to you and
me. we weren't competing for anything. lol. )

i've just read though that the newest music genre is nerdcore.

mk5000

"i'm a player which is not to say i get a lot of chicks
but i've played through final fantasy 1,3,4, 5 and 6'--ham-star

marika

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marika wrote:
>
> i've just read though that the newest music genre is nerdcore.
>

moving to another entirely different music genre, i was reminising
about the times when i lived here many years ago. when i volunteered
for the opera here. it's an old journal entry, but i will add a few
things for clarity

my friend who owns the rira restaurants that i had mentioned previously
was a sponsor for madame butterfly. he brought his whole family. but
i didn't go out front. i was dressed sloppily because i was
volunteering.

Pancake makeup on sequins makes for a high drycleaning bill.

I don't have any REAL stories about the whole opera roanoke thing
except my favorite line from the supertitles. supertitles are what
they project on to the screen so that those who don't understand the
original language of the opera can better understand. usually they are
projected above the stage, on a screen, and so are called super for
above. by contrast film and tv titles with translations are subtitles.

my favorite line of the supertitles.

Intermission
3 and 1/2 years

indicating of course that that much time had passed after pinkerton
dumped cio cio san. coincidentally, that is the exact amount of time
spent in dc...

It is fascinating to help out backstage.
The chorus is all mostly locals, some music students.
They don't have to audition yearly, and some of them are a thousand
years old.

Pinkerton was having a lot of trouble due to allergies.

He was incredible during rehearsals, and it is a shame that he got hit.
A lot of people ended up having colds on the chorus. He may have
caught it.
He was really good in rehearsals as I said, but my fave was Goro. He
just mugged through that whole thing. Seth Williamson was such a geek
in his review saying that he was only serviceable. In rehearsals, he
was the best actor of all.
Madame herself was just adorable. But Suzuki, man what a gorgeous
woman. Her voice just knocked me over. She has this incredible
speaking voice, sounds like my sister's very deep, yet when she gets
on that stage, quite high.

The coolest thing about wigs and makeup was that we had three real
Japanese ladies helping us with the obis. They said the real thing
takes half an hour. But these take about five minutes because they are
costumes not full traditional wear. Their English was not great but
they explained a lot to us.
They were so lovable. They had me taking pictures of everything.
Kinuko was my favorite. She kept dragging me over to take my picture
with some of the principals. I don't know why, because we never really
get to talk to the principals. They are stars, you see, so they don't
mix with the chorus. They have professionals tending to them, not goofs
like me

Although I did get to see Uni, the star at Red Dragon. i note
parenthetically that uni means eel in japanese, but somehow i am
convinced that she was not named after that creature no matter how
tasty i may find it. simon, who threw the poor princess across the
stage in the ballet was there. simon's family were there same time,
and when I introduce Uni, Simon goes, oh are you a drag queen???
(mixing it up with M. Butterfly, the play and movie). Of course, he
almost said that, but for once kept his tongue instead of letting it
fly. fortunately he really only said it to me, thus preventing
embrrassment.

Also, a really interesting thing about Pinkerton, as nasty as he seemed
on stage, he is a sweet little geek in real life. He was one of the
principals who would actually talk to you like a fellow human. He sat
through most rehearsals reading a Science Fiction novel.

Also, Bonzo, the huge samurai? I think it is astonishing that he has
red hair and beard. The transformation is amazing. how we charcoal up
his beard and hair.

Linda, the lady who invited me and who is the prez this year, and whose
husband works with me. i found out from her that the costumers,
wardrobers and makeup artists have simultaneous contracts with the
local theater too, in addition to the ones they have with the opear.

Oh yeah, the other thing, the Friday night party was catered by Back
Stage. It rocked. They had these incredible fried wonton cups with
wasabi mayonnaise and curry shrimp and wasabi encrusted salmon, and
this huge samosa with yams and it was quite nice.

The production went on the road at the end of the week, to Covington
and then later to Lexington. I was be an opera roadie! i accompanied
them to these places and helped them with wigs, makeup and obis on the
road.

the whole opera thing was really exciting to me, and being able to
volunteer for this production particularly wonderful, because my
mother's aunt was apparently the first madame butterfly. so that was
kind of cool and my mother really enjoyed knowing that i was doing
this.

mk5000

'what's the joke about vivaldi. he wrote one piece a thousand times..i
fell in love with vivaldi'--composer david cope, who programmed a
computer aided 12 movement piece based on vivaldi

Frank Kalder

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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> > >
> > > it's certainly possible, but i am still voting for benazir bhuto
> > >
> > No good news about her www.ncpa.org/pd/pdint63.html

>
> the link 404'd. maybe i entered it wrong but i don't think so
> >

"...ncpa.org/pd/pdint63.html" is correct.


> > >
> > > 'you have to be pretty good to win against me'
> > >
> > I won't want to win...
> > We're just exchanging information and various views, I guess.
>
> THAT was funny. it was a reference to the competitions such as the mtv
> video awards and particularly gwen's hard feeling. (not to you and
> me. we weren't competing for anything. lol. )
>

~ nice joking! ~

> i've just read though that the newest music genre is nerdcore.
>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerdcore_hip_hop
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MC_Frontalot

Yeah, those are amazing descriptions.
>
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/9b6462b500791dc0?&hl=en


I love your story :) - and particularly this statement: "The whole


opera thing was really exciting to me, and being able to volunteer for
this production particularly wonderful, because my mother's aunt was

apparently the first Madame Butterfly. So that was kind of cool and my
mother really enjoyed knowing that I was doing this."

> "i'm a player which is not to say i get a lot of chicks
> but i've played through final fantasy 1,3,4, 5 and 6"--ham-star


"Hamtaro-style Hamstar" www.deviantart.com/view/14859109

- MTV Awards -

Your views on the MTV Video Music Awards 2006 in New York were made
available at the Haplif.net
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING/msg/495e60cdfef228f9?&hl=en


- GERMANY -

The restored Green Vault at Dresden's Royal Palace [Saxony] was
unveiled more than 60 years after World War II bombs reduced it to
rubble. www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2153336,00.html

The Jewels Room [das Juwelenzimmer]:
http://tagesschau.sf.tv/var/storage/images/sfdrs/sf_tagesschau/nachrichten/archiv/2006/09/01/kultur/49058/641171-3-ger-DE/historisches_gruenes_gewoelbe_feierlich_eroeffnet_na_normal.jpg


Photo dpa: www.n24.de/images/2006/09/01/zoom_2006090112322400028.jpg

marika

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this page security blocked me

these photos were amazing. something i would be sure to appreciate
even better in person

here;s some more roanoke stuff

Roanoke, where people don't know how to dress for dinner --
there is a pleasant restaurant where i would frequently take my
visitors -- the Brugh tavern which is an inn in a historical park that
they built here. It is pretty and near the Mill mountain. It is
restored and is about 200 years old. You don't have to get dressed
up. I mean, as I said it is roanoke and this is a park. They have a
nice menu, nice wines, nice everything, but if you put on a cotton sun
dress, you would fit in cos no one dresses here.

You could even get away with jeans cos no one gives a crap about how
you dress around here.

you could get away with sneaks, sandals or boots cos you will be in the
Explore park which is one of those historic parks where they do
recreations. It is not like Colonial Williamsburg because it is not a
city it is a farm with a lot of acreage.

It is both a pretty and historic location. well worth going to.

i looked it up to see if i could find a picture of it. looks as if it
was recently sold. where the food used to be just a little haute and
the wine list quite nice, now it has been southified. this may mean
they have removed the good seafood they used to have.

http://www.brtraditions.com/press_releases/pr_june7_brugh.htm

it cracks me up that this is on rutrough road. it always reminds me of
what the cartoon character scooby doo says -- rutro for oh oh, whenever
he is in trouble.

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=scooby+doo&btnG=Search

here's a link to explore park

http://www.explorepark.org/

and a link to some photos. it's no palace

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=explore+park+roanoke&btnG=Search

not jewels but as intriguing

http://www.siggraph.org/s2004/conference/etech/sound.php?=conference

Frank Kalder

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Sep 5, 2006, 1:51:02 AM9/5/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:

>
>
>
>

'Green Vault' restored at Dresden's Royal Palace in Saxony
[GERMANY]

> even better in person.
>
O yeah, me too ;)

>
ROANOKE STUFF

> and a link to some photos. it's no palace
>
> http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=explore+park+roanoke&btnG=Search
>
> not jewels but as intriguing
>

Wow, thanks!
I appreciate this report with its various websites very much. I'm
getting, step by step, a rather good feeling or at least some grasp
what Virginian life and its regional surroundings are all about :)

http://www.siggraph.org/s2004/conference/etech/sound.php?=conference

What does this, in particular, mean (in which context)?

marika

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Sep 5, 2006, 7:51:47 PM9/5/06
to
i tried to reply but the browser is doing something weird, seems as if
something takes hold and won't let me write...
so pardon me if this is a duet or a trio

I said...or said something almost like this

Frank Kalder wrote:

> >
> Wow, thanks!
> I appreciate this report with its various websites very much. I'm
> getting, step by step, a rather good feeling or at least some grasp
> what Virginian life and its regional surroundings are all about :)

i'm glad you are enjoying my stuff about the star city.

tomorrow, i have an interview for the kansas city job. i don't know
how i feel about it.

it's a good job.

i have also applied for a job in philadelphia that i don't particularly
want, but it would put me closer to home.

on the encouragement of several people, i have also applied for another
job in dc.

this one is really quite a bit less stressful, but same pay as the
other two above. it would put me closer to home, but in a city with a
much greater cost of living that i am not crazy about. but with
strategic planning, i might be able to find a place to live that gives
me more options to use the greater free time.

and yet, my current job is not so bad -- yet. it seems i am growing
reaccustomed to my house. while no juwelenzimmer, i am comfortable
here.

rutrough, here we go again

>
> http://www.siggraph.org/s2004/conference/etech/sound.php?=conference
>
> What does this, in particular, mean (in which context)?
>
>

ok browser, stick with me, stop playing games.

i love gems because of their color, and i obviously enjoy music. this
computer program seems to belend the two nicely.

apparently, the user turns on various faucets that are connected to
colors and sounds. the faucets drip flakes into water. the flakes
somehow transmit preprogrammed sounds and patterns. the user can
change the sounds and patterns by changing the flakes' moement.

it seems as if it could mesmerize for hours.

in the meantime, one of the good things about moving back to dc is a
friend i encountered there. she lived in new orleans her entire life
til she came on assignment to dc, where i met her. she returned, as i
did, only it was last summer, the week before katrina hit.

she has taken a permanent job on the same floor where i worked for 6
months.

the really good news is that she has invited me to her daughter's
wedding in new orleans, towards the end of october. this will be the
first time i will have seen the city.

mk5000

'in tokyo's bape cafe a star shaped ice cube lies buried in the crushed
ice of every cold drink"--rebecca louie

Frank Kalder

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Sep 6, 2006, 4:57:12 AM9/6/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>

_ROANOKE STUFF_

> > I appreciate this report with its various websites very much. I'm
> > getting, step by step, a rather good feeling or at least some grasp
> > what Virginian life and its regional surroundings are all about :)
>
> i'm glad you are enjoying my stuff about the star city.
>

O yeah :)

_JOBS_

> tomorrow, i have an interview for the kansas city job. i don't know
> how i feel about it.
>
> it's a good job.
>
> i have also applied for a job in philadelphia that i don't particularly
> want, but it would put me closer to home.
>
> on the encouragement of several people, i have also applied for another
> job in dc.
>
> this one is really quite a bit less stressful, but same pay as the
> other two above. it would put me closer to home, but in a city with a
> much greater cost of living that i am not crazy about. but with
> strategic planning, i might be able to find a place to live that gives
> me more options to use the greater free time.
>

I wish you great luck to find or, subsequently, "pick" the best
suited opportunity.


> and yet, my current job is not so bad -- yet. it seems i am growing

> re-accustomed to my house. while no juwelenzimmer, i am comfortable
> here.
>
Sounds rather comfortable...


> rutrough, here we go again
>
> >
> > http://www.siggraph.org/s2004/conference/etech/sound.php?=conference
> >
> > What does this, in particular, mean (in which context)?
>
> ok browser, stick with me, stop playing games.
>
> i love gems because of their color, and i obviously enjoy music. this
> computer program seems to belend the two nicely.
>
> apparently, the user turns on various faucets that are connected to
> colors and sounds. the faucets drip flakes into water. the flakes
> somehow transmit preprogrammed sounds and patterns. the user can
> change the sounds and patterns by changing the flakes' moement.
>
> it seems as if it could mesmerize for hours.
>
> in the meantime, one of the good things about moving back to dc is a
> friend i encountered there. she lived in new orleans her entire life
> til she came on assignment to dc, where i met her. she returned, as i
> did, only it was last summer, the week before katrina hit.
>
> she has taken a permanent job on the same floor where i worked for 6
> months.
>
> the really good news is that she has invited me to her daughter's
> wedding in new orleans, towards the end of october. this will be the
> first time i will have seen the city.
>

Wow, very nice!
While the famous French Quarter was not really hit or destroyed by
Katrina, other parts of the city still appear disastrous (as recently
TV seen).


>
> 'in tokyo's bape cafe a star shaped ice cube lies buried in the crushed
> ice of every cold drink"--rebecca louie
>

;)

marika

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Sep 6, 2006, 6:28:39 PM9/6/06
to

Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> I wish you great luck to find or, subsequently, "pick" the best
> suited opportunity.
>

or subsequently, i will have no choices at all. recall the statement i
made about my eccentricities. i probably won't have an offer extended
for any of these.

incidentally, the dc one has absolutely no management duties


>
> > and yet, my current job is not so bad -- yet. it seems i am growing
> > re-accustomed to my house. while no juwelenzimmer, i am comfortable
> > here.


for the last few years i have wondered why jewel and jubilee sound so
much alike.

i know bijouterie and jewelry must also be from the same original place

or are they

do you remember the expression "whatever you are doing on the new
year's eve, you will be doing the rest of the year"?

>From my perspective, this is not true. my life now resembles

was going to go out with lester tonight but he said his head has been
hurting for the last two days.
he suffered something of a career disappointment as well this week

how are things there in germany? hard hard work i bet

mk5000

'Because, yo, I never ever call and ask, you to play somethin right?
Yeah
You know what I wanna hear right?
Whatchu wanna hear?'--protect ya neck, wu-tang clan

marika

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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> > >
> > I wish you great luck to find or, subsequently, "pick" the best
> > suited opportunity.
> >
>
> or subsequently, i will have no choices at all. recall the statement i
> made about my eccentricities.


another dumb question, since you were a catholic, do you remember all
the prayers to the virgin they had and all the saints for every season.

do you think they have an 'our lady of gravity' or a patron saint of
gravity?

i am no longer sure if i heard this right, but is this 'fashion week'

there was another band on mtv, gnarles barkley, that i am really
enjoying

mk5000

'Anywhere you sit you can see the sun
Unfortunately on this island I'm the only one
Same rules apply on a rainy day
And it's not such a pretty place to be
It just rains, and rains, and rains on me
Send a simple side, I can understand
Then a flower grew out that sand
Before you knew it, I was back out on that sea
Now I don't mind it so much
Because as long as I'm not there
Anywhere is St. Elsewhere'--gb

Frank Kalder

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Sep 7, 2006, 4:39:27 AM9/7/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> > >
> > I wish you great luck to find or, subsequently, "pick" the best
> > suited opportunity.
> >
>
> or subsequently, i will have no choices at all. recall the statement i
> made about my eccentricities. i probably won't have an offer extended
> for any of these.
>
> incidentally, the dc one has absolutely no management duties
> >
Well, we'll see what's showing up and coming through ...

> > > and yet, my current job is not so bad -- yet. it seems i am growing
> > > re-accustomed to my house. while no juwelenzimmer, i am comfortable
> > > here.
>
>
> for the last few years i have wondered why jewel and jubilee sound so
> much alike.
>
> i know bijouterie and jewelry must also be from the same original place
>
> or are they
>
> do you remember the expression "whatever you are doing on the new
> year's eve, you will be doing the rest of the year"?
>

Did not yet know that particular saying!

> >From my perspective, this is not true. my life now resembles
>
> was going to go out with lester tonight but he said his head has been
> hurting for the last two days.
> he suffered something of a career disappointment as well this week
>

C'est vraiment domage :(

> how are things there in germany? hard hard work i bet
>

The Grand Coalition in Germany gets, meanwhile, only a small acceptance
rate of ~30%.

The new WORLD EMPRESS PARIS (of the US Hilton dynasty) has proudly
announced her visit to the Munich Oktoberfest :)

- - -

I did, not even as a child, neither have a belief in 'Maria' nor
any 'Saints' and other such 'catholic stuff' (replying to your
other post's question).

marika

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Sep 7, 2006, 8:16:02 PM9/7/06
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Frank Kalder wrote:

>
> > how are things there in germany? hard hard work i bet
> >
> The Grand Coalition in Germany gets, meanwhile, only a small acceptance
> rate of ~30%.

yes but how are you doing?

>
> The new WORLD EMPRESS PARIS (of the US Hilton dynasty) has proudly
> announced her visit to the Munich Oktoberfest :)
>


i heard she got arrested

mk5000

New York Fashion Week Opens Friday

By SAMANTHA CRITCHELL
The Associated Press
Thursday, September 7, 2006; 3:21 PM

NEW YORK -- The news flash from New York Fashion Week may be the more
things change,
the more they stay the same.

Designers took fashion in a new direction for fall _ full tops and
skinny bottoms
versus the slim tops and wide bottoms that had dominated runways for
years _ so
they're likely to do more of the same for spring, allowing shoppers
time to
figure out how to wear the new look.

More than 80 designers will preview their styles for next season over
eight days
at Fashion Week, which was set to open Friday with menswear designer
John Bartlett
at the tents in Bryant Park in midtown Manhattan.

Other designers slated to present their collections on opening day
included BCBG
Max Azria, Nicole Miller and Baby Phat by Kimora Lee Simmons.

The new styles for spring are likely to be more of an evolution than a
revolution,
said David Wolfe, creative director at The Doneger Group, a New
York-based company
that forecasts trends for retailers.

"The big deal for men and women for spring is all about the shape of
things
and the length of things. The look seems to be pretty much status quo _
pretty knitwear,
bare delicate tops, printed and screened T-shirts for the guys," Wolfe
told
The Associated Press.

He added: "It makes sense. When a big silhouette change comes, it takes
a few
seasons to kick in."

So far, Wolfe said he hasn't heard of any item that will spark a
shopping frenzy
like leggings seem to have done for fall.

There is, however, a lot of buzz about natural and ecologically
friendly clothes,
said Wolfe, who expects to see more bamboo-, coconut- and soy-based
fabrics.

Zac Posen, who will present his show Thursday, said he'll continue with
tailored
suits but will use draped and fluid tops to update the look and play
into the layering
trend, which he said will still be a factor for spring.

"It's my first time mixing it all together. I'm excited. ... I like
bright pops, unexpected crisp pops," Posen told the AP. "I love women
in suits, and I like it better when suiting elements are incorporated
into softer
silhouettes."

Other designers to present their spring 2007 collections at the Bryant
Park tents
and other venues throughout Manhattan included Donna Karan, Ralph
Lauren, Michael
Kors and Bill Blass, and newcomers Verrier, Brian Reyes, Sari Gueron
and Vena Cava.

Frank Kalder

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Sep 8, 2006, 5:30:23 AM9/8/06
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marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> >
>
> yes but how are you doing?
>
Due to various negotiations and, moreover, technical software problems,
I'll probably be able to reply later on, maybe, tomorrow...

marika

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Sep 8, 2006, 6:30:30 PM9/8/06
to

Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> Due to various negotiations and, moreover, technical software problems,
> I'll probably be able to reply later on, maybe, tomorrow...
>
>

well good luck with whatever it is

Since it's friday, and the gossipin' is slow, I thought it might be
okay
to share lwith everyone this story about paris hilton becoming a
jailbird with everyone:

from ap

Updated: 8:29 a.m. ET Sept 8, 2006

LOS ANGELES - For once, Paris Hilton wasn’t happy to be the center of
attention.

Hours after paparazzi swarmed the Hollywood police station where the
celebutante was booked for investigation of drunk driving, she told
radio host Ryan Seacrest people were making too big a deal out of her
arrest.

“Everything I do is blown out of proportion and it really hurts my
feelings,” said Hilton, who called the incident “nothing.”
Story continues below ↓
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Los Angeles police officers stopped the 25-year-old socialite early
Thursday morning after she was seen driving erratically, said Officer
Marjan Mobasser.

The singer, actress, handbag designer and heiress to the Hilton hotel
fortune told KIIS-FM’s Seacrest she was on an early morning hamburger
run when she was stopped.

She hadn’t eaten all day and was “starving,” Hilton explained. So
the one-time pitchwoman for Carl’s Jr. said she decided to visit a
neighborhood In-N-Out burger stand.

"So maybe I was speeding a little bit and I got pulled over,” she
said, denying that she was driving recklessly.

“I was just really hungry and I wanted to have an In-N-Out burger,”
she said.

Police said she had a blood-alcohol level of .08 percent, the minimum
to warrant an arrest.

Hilton had spent Wednesday filming a music video and going out for
dinner with her sister Nicky and some friends. Later they headed to a
charity event, where Hilton said she had one margarita.

According to a national research study, a 137-pound woman would need to
consume three drinks in one hour on an empty stomach to reach a .08
blood-alcohol level. The 5-foot-8-inch fashionably lithe Hilton likely
weighs much less than that.

Police turned over the misdemeanor case to the Los Angeles city
attorney’s office, which will decide whether to file charges. If
Hilton is charged she likely will be arraigned on Sept. 28, said city
attorney spokesman Nick Velasquez.

If convicted, Hilton could be sentenced to six months in jail and fined
$1,000. As a first-time offender, however, she is more likely to
receive a fine, probation and license suspension and be ordered to
perform community service and attend an alcohol-rehabilitation program.

mk5000

"I was thrown in with gangsters and people who do drugs, those guys who
are
all going mad ... It was scary...I felt empty until I got my first two
lovebirds."--johan stoffel gillespie

Frank Kalder

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Sep 9, 2006, 3:01:10 AM9/9/06
to
marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> >
>
> yes but how are you doing?
>
Supplement to my yesterday's interim blog:
A few weeks ago, I had upgraded my Internet Explorer to "7.0 Beta".
Now, upgrading my Norton Internet Security, the Symantec technical
stuff advised that only IE 6.0 is compatible with their antivirus
software. So, I had to re-install IE, Symantec refunded me on the
download already paid for, and will send a CD (instead) with a separate
invoice.

Thus, while IE 7.0 was running, there was apparently no appropriate
safety available on my system.

> > The new WORLD EMPRESS PARIS (of the US Hilton dynasty) has proudly
> > announced her visit to the Munich Oktoberfest :)
>
> i heard she got arrested
>

Wow, this
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/fcf65d28bf2d011d
is a real cute & funny report :)

I appreciate this report very much :)

The new book of EVA HERMAN
www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2165092,00.html is heavily attacked
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING_Deutsch/msg/4d19950a3c237bf5?&hl=en
in Germany, also by Nova Meierhenrich (whom you already know from my
previous mentions).

The fate of Natascha Kampusch (18), Austria, who was kidnapped 8 years
ago, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5323366.stm shocked and,
simultaneously, fascinated the whole world these days.

marika

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Sep 9, 2006, 9:48:31 AM9/9/06
to


if her proposal includes maids, travel, educational opportunities and
other similar luxuries to be consumed by me at my own pace, well who
wouldn't want an income and to be pampered

last week I had this dream where a bird flew in and it had butterfly
wings, but they were made of iron latice black metal, really pretty

maybe it was a jailbird

mk5000

'it's about revolution and has a hint of civil war. think of glory
and the first black regiment'-ryan glover and kenny burns, fashion
designers

Frank Kalder

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Sep 12, 2006, 5:32:41 AM9/12/06
to
marika wrote on Sept. 09, 2006
>

Unfortunately, during my extended weekend at another location my second
notebook collapsed entirely on Saturday.

Just writing this someplace else. Maybe will reply tomorrow or perhaps
only next week.

marika

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Sep 12, 2006, 7:13:48 PM9/12/06
to

Frank Kalder wrote:
> marika wrote on Sept. 09, 2006
> >
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, during my extended weekend at another location my second
> notebook collapsed entirely on Saturday.

i hope it was aruba or someplace nice like a tea party

and especially if so why the heck worry about the internet during an
extended weekend

but thanks for peeking in on us

i didn't get the kansas job btw

lester and i had a nice lunch on saturday, and he's real busy, but i
tried to pick up all the girls in the restaurant for him.

he and I are conniving to go back or do other damage, as it were

mk5000

'let's pretend that we're both counting sheep.
Close your eyes.
Music play,
something dreamy for dancing,'--
:Queen Latifah

marika

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Sep 13, 2006, 9:17:44 PM9/13/06
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marika wrote:
>
> another dumb question, since you were a catholic, do you remember all
> the prayers to the virgin they had and all the saints for every season.
>
> do you think they have an 'our lady of gravity' or a patron saint of
> gravity?


JOHN MAYER LYRICS

"Gravity"

Gravity is working against me
And gravity wants to bring me down

Oh I'll never know what makes this man
With all the love that his heart can stand
Dream of ways to throw it all away

Oh Gravity is working against me
And gravity wants to bring me down

Oh twice as much aint twice as good
And can't sustain like a one half could
It's wanting more
That's gonna send me to my knees
[repeat]

Oh gravity, stay the hell away from me
And gravity has taken better men than me (Now how can that be?)

Just keep me where the light is
Just keep me where the light is
Keep you all where the light is
Just keep us where the light is
Ohh.. where the light is! [repeat]

Frank Kalder

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Sep 14, 2006, 2:26:59 AM9/14/06
to
marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>
> > The new book of EVA HERMAN
> > www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2165092,00.html is heavily attacked
> > http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING_Deutsch/msg/4d19950a3c237bf5?&hl=en
>
>
> if her proposal includes maids, travel, educational opportunities and
> other similar luxuries to be consumed by me at my own pace, well who
> wouldn't want an income and to be pampered
>
;)

>
> last week I had this dream where a bird flew in and it had butterfly
> wings, but they were made of iron latice black metal, really pretty
>
> maybe it was a jailbird
>
Cute connotation :)
>
The Pope Benedict XVI, at his visit to Bavaria (Germany), gave an
address "We Must Become One" during the ecumenical celebration of
Vespers in the gothic cathedral of Regensburg. The meeting was attended
by representatives of the various churches and ecclesial communities of
Bavaria, in particular, representatives of the Lutheran and Orthodox
churches. - More:
http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=94811

"On Tuesday, in a riveting and provocative university lecture, the
Pope explored the philosophical and historical differences between
Islam and Christianity - a speech that would become the surprise
centerpiece of a five-day visit that many had expected would be mostly
just a walk down memory lane. There is little doubt left that Benedict
is indeed highly attuned to the risks of fundamentalist terrorism. In
fact, it is testament to where this problem stands on his list of
priorities that he used the occasion of his triumphant return to
Regensburg University, where he taught theology in the 1970s, to
deliver a lecture that explored how Christians and Muslims may have
historically viewed the relationship between violence and faith, based
on the two religions' conceptions of the divinity." - Excerpt from
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1534640,00.html

Furthermore, the Pope blessed the new 'Benedict organ' at
Regensburg's Alte Kapelle (Old Chapel)
http://www.salzburg.com/diashow/chronik/200609131558_1.html which is
about 1,000 years old, and is said to be the mother of churches. It has
got, in later times, a splendid rokoko interior (its dominating colors
are white and gold).

Venice (Italy) - In the annals of filmmaking, the romance between
Scarlett Johansson and her "Black Dahlia" co-star Josh Hartnett has
none of the scandal associated with two beautiful people falling in
love. - More:
http://theedge.bostonherald.com/movieNews/view.bg?articleid=157378

Chancellor Angela Merkel said yesterday the German government had
approved sending frigates and fast patrol boats with up to 2,400 navy
troops to secure Lebanon's coast as part of a United Nations
peacekeeping force for the country. The mission will have a "robust"
but _not_ an "offensive" mandate. -
http://www.expatica.com/actual/article.asp?subchannel_id=52&story_id=33037


I noticed your Kansas statement in the other post ;(

Did Lester succeed with anyone of the many girls at that restaurant?
What did you mean with "he and I are conniving to go back or do other
damage, as it were"? To go back to where and damage what?

I liked the poem on "gravity" ...

marika

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Sep 14, 2006, 8:42:19 PM9/14/06
to

Frank Kalder wrote:

> >
> The Pope Benedict XVI, at his visit to Bavaria (Germany), gave an
> address "We Must Become One" during the ecumenical celebration of
> Vespers in the gothic cathedral of Regensburg. The meeting was attended
> by representatives of the various churches and ecclesial communities of
> Bavaria, in particular, representatives of the Lutheran and Orthodox
> churches. - More:
> http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=94811

oh how exciting for a lapsed catholic. was he wearing that sun hat


>
> "On Tuesday, in a riveting and provocative university lecture, the
> Pope explored the philosophical and historical differences between
> Islam and Christianity - a speech that would become the surprise
> centerpiece of a five-day visit that many had expected would be mostly
> just a walk down memory lane. There is little doubt left that Benedict
> is indeed highly attuned to the risks of fundamentalist terrorism. In
> fact, it is testament to where this problem stands on his list of
> priorities that he used the occasion of his triumphant return to
> Regensburg University, where he taught theology in the 1970s, to
> deliver a lecture that explored how Christians and Muslims may have
> historically viewed the relationship between violence and faith, based
> on the two religions' conceptions of the divinity." - Excerpt from
> http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1534640,00.html

i think i probably told you this before - my mother finished her
gymansium level education in regensburg

>
> Furthermore, the Pope blessed the new 'Benedict organ' at
> Regensburg's Alte Kapelle (Old Chapel)
> http://www.salzburg.com/diashow/chronik/200609131558_1.html which is
> about 1,000 years old, and is said to be the mother of churches. It has
> got, in later times, a splendid rokoko interior (its dominating colors
> are white and gold).
>
> Venice (Italy) - In the annals of filmmaking, the romance between
> Scarlett Johansson and her "Black Dahlia" co-star Josh Hartnett has
> none of the scandal associated with two beautiful people falling in
> love. - More:
> http://theedge.bostonherald.com/movieNews/view.bg?articleid=157378

i just saw her in a wonderful movie, 'the love song of bobby long'
that i discussed in aullm a few days ago


http://groups.google.com/group/az.general/msg/f0dd878084641d9f?dmode=source&hl=en

it;s about an alcoholic literature professor who walks around quoting
literature and is set in new orleans. a really wonderful little story
http://imdb.com/title/tt0369672/

yesterday i met this interesting woman who used to be a flight
attendant for an airline but for some reason she felt stressed out.
her doctor said she had hypertension and that she should look for other
work. part of the stress included constant fear of a 3rd bankruptcy
for her employer.

she said she was too old and had no skills

he said, but what do you enjoy doing

she said, shopping in italy

so she opened this business where she goes to italy once or twice a
month, buys whatever is the coolest fashionable stuff and then sells it
in her shop in roanoke.

she carries italian handbags and jewelry as well as all sorts of other
goodies

most recently, she came bacck from venice.

i will have to see if she saw scarlett

>
> Chancellor Angela Merkel said yesterday the German government had
> approved sending frigates and fast patrol boats with up to 2,400 navy
> troops to secure Lebanon's coast as part of a United Nations
> peacekeeping force for the country. The mission will have a "robust"
> but _not_ an "offensive" mandate. -
> http://www.expatica.com/actual/article.asp?subchannel_id=52&story_id=33037
>
>
> I noticed your Kansas statement in the other post ;(
>
> Did Lester succeed with anyone of the many girls at that restaurant?
> What did you mean with "he and I are conniving to go back or do other
> damage, as it were"? To go back to where and damage what?

that's just american slang.

go back to other restaurants and similar recreations.

when you ask for the bill in a u.s. restaurant, you might say 'what's
the damage'

as in damage to your purse

so we are going back to some restaurants and other things, in order to
do damage to our purses.

>
> I liked the poem on "gravity" ...
>


it was neat because i was musing on gravity earlier, and then i heard
that song while watching something or other and just fell in love with
the song.

you have probably seen jon mayer the artist on mtv. he had a really
popular song out a few years ago, played very often on mtv and such

http://www.sing365.com/music/Lyric.nsf/Your-Body-Is-A-Wonderland-lyrics-John-Mayer/6CDC339B077252EE48256BA000311855

it got so mucy play that it got on my nerves and i didn't have any
interest in this artist.

then i saw an interview with him and he was so funny and sweet and
eccentric that he really won me over and i started enjoying him again.

in the meantime you will find this bit of fashion news interesting

http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourview/2006/09/spanish_fashion_show_bans_unde.html
Spanish fashion show bans underweight models
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 | 11:40 AM ET

Organizers of a top fashion show in Spain say they will reject overly
thin models who protesters say encourage eating disorders in girls.

The Association of Fashion Designers of Spain said it wanted to project
"an image of beauty and health" for the Madrid show, which runs Sept.
18-22, rather than rail-thin looks.

Medical associations and women's advocacy groups protested last year's
show, saying some models were too thin.

The show is using the body mass index or BMI, a calculation of weight
in relation to height, to measure the models. About 30 per cent of
would-be participants at a previous event failed the test.

Frank Kalder

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Sep 15, 2006, 3:01:17 AM9/15/06
to
marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> > >
> >
> > ... in particular, representatives of the Lutheran and Orthodox

> > churches. - More:
> > http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=94811
>
> oh how exciting for a lapsed catholic.
>
Well, I see that from a historic point of view. He knows particularly
those Orthodox representatives personally very well, and they do have
an appreciation for the Pope which they say and show (e.g. hugging each
other).

> was he wearing that sun hat
>

Not at this time, at least, I didn't see it.
I'm amazed by Benedict's physical condition (at 79) and his
rhetoric capabilities in contemporary and historic dimensions (although
he's weird in what he _theologically_ 'believes' and
'communicates').

> > ...

> i think i probably told you this before - my mother finished her
> gymansium level education in regensburg
>

Oh, how interesting! Formerly you mentioned the Bavarian stay of your
parents, in particular, your father's in Bad Reichenhall.


> >
> > Venice (Italy) - In the annals of filmmaking, the romance between
> > Scarlett Johansson and her "Black Dahlia" co-star Josh Hartnett has
> > none of the scandal associated with two beautiful people falling in
> > love. - More:
> > http://theedge.bostonherald.com/movieNews/view.bg?articleid=157378
>
> i just saw her in a wonderful movie, 'the love song of bobby long'
> that i discussed in aullm a few days ago
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/az.general/msg/f0dd878084641d9f?dmode=source&hl=en
>
> it's about an alcoholic literature professor who walks around quoting
> literature and is set in new orleans. a really wonderful little story
> http://imdb.com/title/tt0369672
>

Thanks! That's very interesting. I'll watch out for it.


> yesterday i met this interesting woman who used to be a flight
> attendant for an airline but for some reason she felt stressed out.
> her doctor said she had hypertension and that she should look for other
> work. part of the stress included constant fear of a 3rd bankruptcy
> for her employer.
>
> she said she was too old and had no skills
>
> he said, but what do you enjoy doing
>
> she said, shopping in italy
>
> so she opened this business where she goes to italy once or twice a
> month, buys whatever is the coolest fashionable stuff and then sells it
> in her shop in roanoke.
>
> she carries italian handbags and jewelry as well as all sorts of other
> goodies
>

> most recently, she came back from venice.


>
> i will have to see if she saw scarlett
>

Wow, that's a cute career...


> >
> > Did Lester succeed with anyone of the many girls at that restaurant?
> > What did you mean with "he and I are conniving to go back or do other
> > damage, as it were"? To go back to where and damage what?
>
> that's just american slang.
>
> go back to other restaurants and similar recreations.
>
> when you ask for the bill in a u.s. restaurant, you might say 'what's
> the damage'
>
> as in damage to your purse
>
> so we are going back to some restaurants and other things, in order to
> do damage to our purses.
>

Thanks for the explanation :)


> >
> > I liked the poem on "gravity" ...
>
> it was neat because i was musing on gravity earlier, and then i heard
> that song while watching something or other and just fell in love with
> the song.
>

O yeah!

> you have probably seen jon mayer the artist on mtv. he had a really
> popular song out a few years ago, played very often on mtv and such
>
> http://www.sing365.com/music/Lyric.nsf/Your-Body-Is-A-Wonderland-lyrics-John-Mayer/6CDC339B077252EE48256BA000311855
>
> it got so mucy play that it got on my nerves and i didn't have any
> interest in this artist.
>

What's mucy?

> then i saw an interview with him and he was so funny and sweet and
> eccentric that he really won me over and i started enjoying him again.
>

That's great!

> in the meantime you will find this bit of fashion news interesting
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourview/2006/09/spanish_fashion_show_bans_unde.html
> Spanish fashion show bans underweight models
> Wednesday, September 13, 2006 | 11:40 AM ET
>
> Organizers of a top fashion show in Spain say they will reject overly
> thin models who protesters say encourage eating disorders in girls.
>
> The Association of Fashion Designers of Spain said it wanted to project
> "an image of beauty and health" for the Madrid show, which runs Sept.
> 18-22, rather than rail-thin looks.
>
> Medical associations and women's advocacy groups protested last year's
> show, saying some models were too thin.
>
> The show is using the body mass index or BMI, a calculation of weight
> in relation to height, to measure the models. About 30 per cent of
> would-be participants at a previous event failed the test.
>

Yes, they're doing right!

'History repeating': Beyoncé Knowles dancing
http://ilrestodelcarlino.quotidiano.net/2006/09/08/canali/foto_del_giorno
like Josephine Baker in a banana miniskirt.

The article on the New York Fashion Week which you provided
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-DESIGNER-FASHION/msg/85d9a285801321e5?&hl=en
is referenced in the Haplif.net.

marika

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Sep 15, 2006, 8:46:03 PM9/15/06
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Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> Well, I see that from a historic point of view. He knows particularly
> those Orthodox representatives personally very well, and they do have
> an appreciation for the Pope which they say and show (e.g. hugging each
> other)

>


> > was he wearing that sun hat
> >
> Not at this time, at least, I didn't see it.
> I'm amazed by Benedict's physical condition (at 79) and his
> rhetoric capabilities in contemporary and historic dimensions (although
> he's weird in what he _theologically_ 'believes' and
> 'communicates').
>


i'm sure you have read about the most recent pope controversy

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/15/AR2006091500800.html

Muslim Leaders Blast Pope's Comments

By Bill Brubaker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, September 15, 2006; 4:50 PM


Muslim leaders today strongly denounced comments Pope Benedict XVI made
this week about Islam, calling them ignorant and divisive. In the Gaza
Strip, several thousand Palestinians marched in protest, calling on
Benedict to apologize.

Vatican officials said the pope did not intend to offend Muslims during
his lecture Tuesday at a German university.

> > > ...
>
> > i think i probably told you this before - my mother finished her
> > gymansium level education in regensburg
> >
> Oh, how interesting! Formerly you mentioned the Bavarian stay of your
> parents, in particular, your father's in Bad Reichenhall.

just as clarification, my parents met in philadelphia. they probably
weren't even in bavaria in the same year.

my mother also lived in berlin for a time, when she was perhaps 14.
this is a story for another time


a misspelling because i failed to put my computer glasses on.

much, not mucy

>
> > then i saw an interview with him and he was so funny and sweet and
> > eccentric that he really won me over and i started enjoying him again.
> >
> That's great!
>
> > in the meantime you will find this bit of fashion news interesting
> >
> > http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourview/2006/09/spanish_fashion_show_bans_unde.html
> > Spanish fashion show bans underweight models
> > Wednesday, September 13, 2006 | 11:40 AM ET
> >
> > Organizers of a top fashion show in Spain say they will reject overly
> > thin models who protesters say encourage eating disorders in girls.
> >
> > The Association of Fashion Designers of Spain said it wanted to project
> > "an image of beauty and health" for the Madrid show, which runs Sept.
> > 18-22, rather than rail-thin looks.
> >
> > Medical associations and women's advocacy groups protested last year's
> > show, saying some models were too thin.
> >
> > The show is using the body mass index or BMI, a calculation of weight
> > in relation to height, to measure the models. About 30 per cent of
> > would-be participants at a previous event failed the test.
> >
> Yes, they're doing right!
>
> 'History repeating': Beyoncé Knowles dancing
> http://ilrestodelcarlino.quotidiano.net/2006/09/08/canali/foto_del_giorno
> like Josephine Baker in a banana miniskirt.

wow
she should also be a bond girl

You know what I think -- all those movies with all those superevil
guys, like in Austin Powers, and James Bond and Flint... they are
telling us something

there really are secret islands where gorgeous women are enslaved and a
guy on a pneumatic dentist chair that is three stories high really does
drive up the shaft of a volcano to look out in a periscope to see how
his weather machine is going to take over the world.

I think that the spies of the world have captured these evil geniuses
and they are behind bars, and that these movies are all true. And
especially all the women in bikinis and tutus di banane,,,they are all
now in the USA and cannot get jobs other than to be playboy bunnies and
therefor Hugh Hefner is really being subsidized by the government so
there are lots of these unenslaved women

I mean, who would sleep with Hefner. It has to be government plot

>mk5000

'clothes are tne natural path of a young person who doesn't have money.
the first thing they want to do is define themselves, and clothes are
easier, more accessible, cheaper. when you have that under control,
you get interested in the room where you live'--nigo.

Frank Kalder

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Sep 16, 2006, 3:08:43 AM9/16/06
to
marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> > >
>
>
_Pope_

>
> i'm sure you have read about the most recent pope controversy
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/15/AR2006091500800.html
>
> Muslim Leaders Blast Pope's Comments
>
> By Bill Brubaker
> Washington Post Staff Writer
> [...]
>
That's an unfortunate development. I'm curious how he'll get out
of this unforeseen 'public damage'.
> > >

_Bavarian vs. German stay_


>
> just as clarification, my parents met in philadelphia. they probably
> weren't even in bavaria in the same year.
>

Ah!

> my mother also lived in berlin for a time, when she was perhaps 14.
> this is a story for another time
>

Yeah, I'd appreciate reading that story...
> > > >
> >
_Miscellaneous_

> > 'History repeating': Beyoncé Knowles dancing
> > http://ilrestodelcarlino.quotidiano.net/2006/09/08/canali/foto_del_giorno
> > like Josephine Baker in a banana miniskirt.
>
> wow
> she should also be a bond girl
>

My intended gag was to put this photo in a connotation with Shirley
Bassey's "History Repeating". I guess it was a great excitement
when Josephine Baker performed that meanwhile historic 'banana
dance'. Beyoncé with that tutu of artificial bananas appears to me
rather strange...

> You know what I think -- all those movies with all those superevil
> guys, like in Austin Powers, and James Bond and Flint... they are
> telling us something
>

You won't mean Larry Flynt, the Hustler publisher?
http://www.answers.com/topic/larry-flynt

> there really are secret islands where gorgeous women are enslaved and a
> guy on a pneumatic dentist chair that is three stories high really does
> drive up the shaft of a volcano to look out in a periscope to see how
> his weather machine is going to take over the world.
>
> I think that the spies of the world have captured these evil geniuses
> and they are behind bars, and that these movies are all true. And
> especially all the women in bikinis and tutus di banane,,,they are all
> now in the USA and cannot get jobs other than to be playboy bunnies and
> therefor Hugh Hefner is really being subsidized by the government so
> there are lots of these unenslaved women
>
> I mean, who would sleep with Hefner. It has to be government plot
>

Oups!

I recently noticed in TV a blonde ex-bunny who wrote a book describing
the ridiculous, almost disgusting and utterly boring service she and
his entire 'bed staff' had to fulfill.
>
> 'clothes are the natural path of a young person who doesn't have money.


> the first thing they want to do is define themselves, and clothes are
> easier, more accessible, cheaper. when you have that under control,
> you get interested in the room where you live'--nigo.
>

OK :)

marika

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Sep 16, 2006, 10:11:07 AM9/16/06
to

Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> > my mother also lived in berlin for a time, when she was perhaps 14.
> > this is a story for another time
> >
> Yeah, I'd appreciate reading that story...

one time i was in alexandria at the supermarket. a man was ahead of me
paying and i thought i recognized the face and voice but couldn't
figure out why. but i decided to do nothing about it.

then, i paid and when i went out to the parking lot, he was just
loading his things into the trunk. i thought i had taken a long time
in the supermarket so i was surprised i caught up with him.

i looked at his car, and unmistakably, he was a ukrainian.

i asked him about the license plate and the ukrainian sticker that gave
away his identity.

and he conceded he was ukrainian. and that he had worked for radio
free america or something like that. and that he was a ukrainian
election watcher and now that he is retired, spends a lot of time there
dealing with their voting affairs.

on greater discussion -- and this is absolutely unbelievable -- it
turned out that his older brother was my uncle's best friend. that's
the uncle that died in las vegas last fall.
i had never met this man before but i guess he resembled his brother
enough that i found his face familiar.

as we continued to talk, he told me he was in the same class as my
mother when they were in their first few classes of school in ukraine.
he remarked that she was always very pretty and that he enjoyed yanking
her very black braids.

he then said that he lost track of her after she ended up in berlin.

i said -- huh when did my mother ever live in berlin.

i had never heard her mention berlin before, just regensburg.

i knew my mother and family left ukraine because the bolsheviks were
occupying their territory. i knew that they got on a train and left,
but ended up in some labor camp. they never talked about this when i
was growing up. my grandparents both died before i knew anything about
this fact. and my mother is notorious for having the worst memory
ever. she remembers absolutely nothing of this time of her life. so
there is nothing for her to talk about.

when i next came home to visit, i told my mother the story of having
encountered her schoolmate. she was astonished of course. then i
asked her when in heck did she ever live in berlin. she sort of
searched her brain with her eyes.

she then remember a small part of this event and said that her cousin
lived in berlin on student visa, and had bribed someone to get her
parents and her out of the labor camp. that was all she was able to
remember. but then i asked my dad and he said that basically she and
her parents sort of lived underground and covertly in berlin til the
war ended and they ended up in regensburg. that was all the light they
were able to shed on this event. at this point in time, my father ended
up in berchtesgaten. i think. these stories confuse the heck out of
me and as parents age, their memories prevent them from providing much
more. my father is better at remembering stuff. my mother never
remembers anything not even when she was younger.


> > > > >
> > >
> _Miscellaneous_
>
> > > 'History repeating': Beyoncé Knowles dancing
> > > http://ilrestodelcarlino.quotidiano.net/2006/09/08/canali/foto_del_giorno
> > > like Josephine Baker in a banana miniskirt.
> >

i bet it was homage

> > wow
> > she should also be a bond girl
> >
> My intended gag was to put this photo in a connotation with Shirley
> Bassey's "History Repeating". I guess it was a great excitement
> when Josephine Baker performed that meanwhile historic 'banana
> dance'.

did you ever see the hbo made movie of her biography. very good

>Beyoncé with that tutu of artificial bananas appears to me
> rather strange...
>

o that would be good

those aren't bananas then, but goldfingers, a web of goldfingers.
entirely too funny, frank.

Goldfinger
He's the man, the man with the Midas touch
A spider's touch
Such a cold finger
Beckons you to enter his web of sin
But don't go in

Golden words he will pour in your ear
But his lies can't disguise what you fear
For a golden girl knows when he's kissed her
It's the kiss of death ...

>From Mister Goldfinger
Pretty girl, beware of his heart of gold
This heart is cold

Golden words he will pour in your ear
But his lies can't disguise what you fear
For a golden girl knows when he's kissed her
It's the kiss of death ...

>From Mister Goldfinger
Pretty girl, beware of his heart of gold
This heart is cold
He loves only gold
Only gold
He loves gold
He loves only gold
Only gold
He loves gold


> > You know what I think -- all those movies with all those superevil
> > guys, like in Austin Powers, and James Bond and Flint... they are
> > telling us something
> >
> You won't mean Larry Flynt, the Hustler publisher?

noooooo

my favorite of all time spy, fell in love with him when i was a little
girl, better than any bond flick
http://imdb.com/title/tt0059557/
http://imdb.com/title/tt0061810/

> http://www.answers.com/topic/larry-flynt
>
> > there really are secret islands where gorgeous women are enslaved and a
> > guy on a pneumatic dentist chair that is three stories high really does
> > drive up the shaft of a volcano to look out in a periscope to see how
> > his weather machine is going to take over the world.
> >
> > I think that the spies of the world have captured these evil geniuses
> > and they are behind bars, and that these movies are all true. And
> > especially all the women in bikinis and tutus di banane,,,they are all
> > now in the USA and cannot get jobs other than to be playboy bunnies and
> > therefor Hugh Hefner is really being subsidized by the government so
> > there are lots of these unenslaved women
> >
> > I mean, who would sleep with Hefner. It has to be government plot
> >
> Oups!
>
> I recently noticed in TV a blonde ex-bunny who wrote a book describing
> the ridiculous, almost disgusting and utterly boring service she and
> his entire 'bed staff' had to fulfill.
> >

heheh

> > 'clothes are the natural path of a young person who doesn't have money.
> > the first thing they want to do is define themselves, and clothes are
> > easier, more accessible, cheaper. when you have that under control,
> > you get interested in the room where you live'--nigo.
> >
> OK :)
>

an expert I laugh


dum kids huh, if they believe that you stop caring about clothes that
fast. i keep trying to lose weight. i so terribly want to wear cool
clothes again.

mk5000

"the unseen hand that holds trouble" --Black Thought on the roots,
Game Theory album

marika

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marika wrote:
>
> lester and i had a nice lunch on saturday, and he's real busy, but i
> tried to pick up all the girls in the restaurant for him.
>


so we did more damage today. lester wanted help with writing his resume
and job application so we stopped at a somewhat new restaurant in
downtown roanoke.

trio

http://www.roanoke.com/entertainment/food/wb/wb/xp-52793
btw to see my past rant -- one of them -- you can see this link. he
isn't the very swishy one, just the laidback one.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.drugs.pot.cultivation/browse_frm/thread/98fcbc66be3ab214/96ec2bacb68b9497?lnk=st&q=marika+appalachian&rnum=1&hl=en#96ec2bacb68b9497

when i complained about roanoke, did i mention their restaurant
problems. i have never failed to go in a roanoke restaurant where half
the ingredients were off the menu for some bizarre reason.

they didn't have x ingredient at sam;s club, the bulk seller branch of
walmart. i didn't feel like going out to buy it, and so on.

the place is cute, it used to a specialty angus beef steak house.
there is nothing special about angus beef, it's just a cow. or so i
thought til today.

they have a great layout, appealing to even my generally nonobserving
eyes.
they have several brass colored 'tree' type shelves full of wine, very
attractive display. i wish i enjoyed wine more, because virginia has
some mighty nice wineries.

but first, it is too trendy to like wine here now, because of the movie
sideways.

second, because people think there is a status symbol attached, and in
spite of their disdain for the french, they really want to be either
french or british, and sometimes russian

anybody but little virginians in a little virginia city

geoffrey nunberg, who wrote 'talking right' discusses how wine is
always given in a list of things about liberals, in a negative way

'take your volvo driving, brie eating, wine drinking ass outta here'

http://www.amazon.com/Talking-Right-Latte-Drinking-Volvo-Driving-Hollywood-Loving/dp/1586483862

he points out that the only french word that bush will say is
entrepreneurs.


first thing of course -- they informed us that there was no spinach
salad available and that no spinach would be served.

of course, that wasn't their fault.

http://www.statesmanjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060916/NEWS/609160313/1001

<<By Friday, the outbreak had grown to include at least 20 states:
California, Connecticut, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, Michigan,
Minnesota, New Mexico, Nevada, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania,
Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming, according
to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
...
"It is possible that the recall and the information will extend beyond
Natural Selection Foods and involve other brands and other companies,
at other dates," said Dr. David Acheson, the chief medical officer with
the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition.>>

in an abundance of caution, all restaurants are ceasing serving
spinach.

so lester ordered the ribs and i ordered the mussels.

just as i should expect, the waitress came out and told us there were
no ribs available.

lester asked whether they had got into the spinach.

so he ordered mussels just as i had

then, she sent her manager out, who told us that there were no mussels
because all the poor little guys died in spite of refrigeration.

lester asked if they had crabcakes. this wasn't on the menu, but they
made them specially for him.

they were pretty good.

then, i ordered smoked fish. i asked the manager if the smoked fish
might be similar to the white fish you get in a typical jewish deli.
he never heard of white fish and never had been in a ny style jewish
style deli.

ooooo frank this is where i live

anyway, i asked them not to put the stuff on bread -- some wacky panini
or other ridiculous bread i couldn't be bothered with

they replaced all that with a nice bed of greens, and so i had a decent
meal

the surprise was the creme brulee, orange cream flavor. quite good,
even if desserts are not my thing. lester had some sort of banana
chocolate thing that i didn't even want to look at.

i will keep looking for good restaurants here. maybe i will find one

mk5000

"We have a firm commitment to
NATO, we are a part of NATO. We
have
a firm commitment to Europe. We
are a part of Europe."
...Governor George W.
Bush, Jr.

marika

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Frank Kalder wrote:
> marika wrote:
> > Frank Kalder wrote:
> > > >
> >
> >
> _Pope_
> >
> > i'm sure you have read about the most recent pope controversy
> >
> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/15/AR2006091500800.html
> >
> > Muslim Leaders Blast Pope's Comments
> >
> > By Bill Brubaker
> > Washington Post Staff Writer
> > [...]
> >
> That's an unfortunate development. I'm curious how he'll get out
> of this unforeseen 'public damage'.
> > > >
>

lester said something at lunch that really cracked me up
he was describing a dilapidated building but said it was decapitated.

that made me laugh, as that could mean that they took the head out --
sailor talk for the toilet

or perhaps some sort of endless loop of defenestration and decapitation

most recent ap pope story
http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/09/16/ap3022055.html

Pope Stops Short of Apology to Muslims
By FRANCES D'EMILIO , 09.16.2006, 03:31 PM
Most Popular Stories


Pope Benedict XVI "sincerely regrets" offending Muslims with his
reference to an obscure medieval text that characterizes some of the
teachings of Islam's founder as "evil and inhuman," the Vatican said
Saturday.

But the statement stopped short of the apology demanded by Islamic
leaders around the globe, and anger among Muslims remained intense.
Palestinians attacked five churches in the West Bank and Gaza over the
pope's remarks Tuesday in a speech to university professors in his
native Germany.

In a broader talk rejecting any religious motivation for violence,
Benedict cited the words of a Byzantine emperor who characterized some
of the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad as "evil and inhuman,"
particularly "his command to spread by the sword the faith."

The pontiff didn't endorse that description, but he didn't question it,
and his words set off a firestorm of protests across the Muslim world.

Bertone's statement, released Saturday by the Vatican press office,
failed to satisfy critics, although British Muslim leaders said it was
a welcome step.

Mohammed Bishr, a senior Muslim Brotherhood member in Egypt, said the
statement "was not an apology" but a "pretext that the pope was quoting
somebody else as saying so and so."

"We need the pope to admit the big mistake he has committed and then
agree on apologizing, because we will not accept others to apologize on
his behalf," Bishr said.

There was no indication whether the pope would do so. His first public
appearance since his return from Germany was set for Sunday, when
Benedict planned to greet the faithful at Castel Gandolfo, the papal
summer residence in the Alban Hills near Rome.

Morocco recalled its ambassador to the Vatican on Saturday to protest
the pope's "offensive" remarks, and Afghanistan's parliament and
Foreign Ministry demanded the pope apologize.

Turkey cast some doubt on whether Benedict could proceed with a planned
visit in November in what would be the pontiff's first trip to a Muslim
nation.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan insisted the pope apologize
to the Muslim world, saying he had spoken "not like a man of religion
but like a usual politician."

Asked if Muslim anger would affect the pope's trip to Istanbul, where
he hopes to meet with Orthodox leaders headquartered there, Erdogan
replied, "I wouldn't know."

Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I, spiritual leader of the world's 200
million Orthodox Christians, issued a statement saying he was "deeply"
saddened by the tensions sparked by the pope's comments.

"We have to show the determination and care not to hurt one another and
avoid situations where we may hurt each others' beliefs," the
Istanbul-based Patriarchate said.

The new Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, said the
pope's position on Islam is unmistakably in line with Vatican teaching
that says the church "esteems" Muslims.

Benedict "thus sincerely regrets that certain passages of his address
could have sounded offensive to the sensitivities of the Muslim
faithful and should have been interpreted in a manner that in no way
corresponds to his intentions," Bertone said in a statement.

He noted that earlier during his German trip, Benedict warned
"secularized Western culture" against holding contempt for any religion
or believers.

Bertone said the pontiff sought in his university speech to condemn all
religious motivation for violence, "from whatever side it may come."
But the pope's words only seemed to fan rage.

In West Bank attacks on four churches, Palestinians used guns,
firebombs and lighter fluid, leaving church doors charred and walls
scorched by flames and pocked with bullet holes. Nobody was reported
injured. Two Catholic churches, an Anglican one and a Greek Orthodox
one were hit. A Greek Orthodox church was also attacked in Gaza City.

A group calling itself "Lions of Monotheism" told The Associated Press
by phone that the attacks were a protest of the pope's remarks on
Islam.

During his speech, Benedict stressed that he was quoting words of a
Byzantine emperor and did not comment directly on the "evil and
inhuman" assessment. On Saturday, Bertone said that "the Holy Father
did not mean, nor does he mean, to make that opinion his own in any
way."

Benedict quoted from a book recounting a conversation between 14th
century Byzantine Christian Emperor Manuel Paleologos II and an
educated Persian on the truths of Christianity and Islam.

"The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," the
pope said. "He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Muhammad brought that
was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as
his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.'"

The grand sheik of Cairo's Al-Azhar Mosque, the Sunni Arab world's most
powerful institution, condemned the pope's remarks as "reflecting
ignorance."

Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, whose Southeast Asian
nation has a large Muslim population, demanded that Benedict retract
his remarks and not "take lightly the spread of outrage that has been
created."

In a first reaction from a top Christian leader, the head of Egypt's
Coptic Orthodox Church criticized the pope. "Any remarks which offend
Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ," Coptic Pope
Shenouda III was quoted as telling the pro-government newspaper
Al-Ahram.

The Shiite Muslim militant group Hezbollah and Lebanon's top Sunni
Muslim religious authority also denounced the pope's comments.

British Muslims sought to calm the situation, praising the Vatican
statement on behalf of the pope.

"We welcome his apology and we hope now we can work together and build
bridges. At the same time we would condemn all forms of violent
demonstration," Muhammad Umar, chairman of Britain's Ramadhan
Foundation, a youth organization, told Sky News.

But Muhammad Abdul Bari, general-secretary of the Muslim Council of
Britain, said the pontiff needed to repudiate the emperor's views he
quoted to restore relations between Muslims and the Roman Catholic
Church.

In India, Cardinal Telesphore Toppo, who is president of the Indian
Catholic Bishops Conference, said the Christian community in that
country must face Muslim protests over the pope's speech "with
Christian courage and prayer because truth needs no other defense,"
according to AsiaNews, a Vatican-affiliated news agency.

Frank Kalder

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to
marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
>
_Berlin story_
Cute! What a small world :)
>

> he then said that he lost track of her after she ended up in berlin.
>
> i said -- huh when did my mother ever live in berlin.
>
> i had never heard her mention berlin before, just regensburg.
>
> i knew my mother and family left ukraine because the bolsheviks were
> occupying their territory. i knew that they got on a train and left,
> but ended up in some labor camp. they never talked about this when i
> was growing up. my grandparents both died before i knew anything about
> this fact. and my mother is notorious for having the worst memory
> ever. she remembers absolutely nothing of this time of her life. so
> there is nothing for her to talk about.
>
> when i next came home to visit, i told my mother the story of having
> encountered her schoolmate. she was astonished of course. then i
> asked her when in heck did she ever live in berlin. she sort of
> searched her brain with her eyes.
>
> she then remember a small part of this event and said that her cousin
> lived in berlin on student visa, and had bribed someone to get her
> parents and her out of the labor camp. that was all she was able to
> remember. but then i asked my dad and he said that basically she and
> her parents sort of lived underground and covertly in berlin til the
> war ended and they ended up in regensburg. that was all the light they
> were able to shed on this event. at this point in time, my father ended

> up in berchtesgaden. i think. these stories confuse the heck out of


> me and as parents age, their memories prevent them from providing much
> more. my father is better at remembering stuff. my mother never
> remembers anything not even when she was younger.
>

Well, having lived covertly in the underground explains it all.

_Pope_

Most Islamic leaders, meanwhile, are trying to calm down the emotions
evoked. Yet, the radicals won't listen and intellectually consider
the stuff brought into the discussion, but rather continue to stir
things up.

_Virginian restaurants_

Nice stories (in your other post) around the spinach debacle and the
failures in those restaurants. Hope you'll find any appropriate one
in the near future...

>
> > > >
_Miscellaneous_


> >
> > >
> > My intended gag was to put this photo in a connotation with Shirley
> > Bassey's "History Repeating". I guess it was a great excitement
> > when Josephine Baker performed that meanwhile historic 'banana
> > dance'.
>
> did you ever see the hbo made movie of her biography. very good
>

Some years ago, I saw a J.B. biographical movie which impressed me very
much, but I don't know whether it was that of HBO.

> my favorite of all time spy, fell in love with him when i was a little
> girl, better than any bond flick
> http://imdb.com/title/tt0059557/
> http://imdb.com/title/tt0061810/
>

Oh, I did not yet know that type of Flint stuff...
>

> > > there really are secret islands where gorgeous women are enslaved and a
> > > guy on a pneumatic dentist chair that is three stories high really does
> > > drive up the shaft of a volcano to look out in a periscope to see how
> > > his weather machine is going to take over the world.
> > >
> > > I think that the spies of the world have captured these evil geniuses
> > > and they are behind bars, and that these movies are all true. And
> > > especially all the women in bikinis and tutus di banane,,,they are all
> > > now in the USA and cannot get jobs other than to be playboy bunnies and
> > > therefor Hugh Hefner is really being subsidized by the government so
> > > there are lots of these unenslaved women
> > >
> > > I mean, who would sleep with Hefner. It has to be government plot
> > >

> > ...


>
> > > 'clothes are the natural path of a young person who doesn't have money.
> > > the first thing they want to do is define themselves, and clothes are
> > > easier, more accessible, cheaper. when you have that under control,
> > > you get interested in the room where you live'--nigo.
> > >
> > OK :)
> >
> an expert I laugh
>
> dum kids huh, if they believe that you stop caring about clothes that
> fast. i keep trying to lose weight. i so terribly want to wear cool
> clothes again.
>

;)

marika

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Sep 17, 2006, 10:49:28 AM9/17/06
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Frank Kalder wrote:
> _Pope_
>

THE POPE IS INFALLIBLE
SO HE CAN'T APOLOGIZE

> Most Islamic leaders, meanwhile, are trying to calm down the emotions
> evoked. Yet, the radicals won't listen and intellectually consider
> the stuff brought into the discussion, but rather continue to stir
> things up.
>

In each religion and each culture there are the average and then the
extremists.
Who you gonna believe.


I noticed one article said that the coptic christian patriarch found
the statements offensive, and criticised.
i found that interesting, because apparently he may be taking this as
a cultural insult, not a political or religious one.
there is good guys and bad guys everywhere. Til everyone listens to
the other side's view, no solution

here's the josephine baker movie, although i could be wrong about it
being made by hbo

http://imdb.com/title/tt0102167/

mk5000

'This is not a political
discussion group, it's a
FOR SALE group. Thank You!'--Jim Smith

Frank Kalder

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marika wrote:
Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>


_Pope_
> >
>
> THE POPE IS INFALLIBLE
> SO HE CAN'T APOLOGIZE
>

The infallibility applies only to formal documents (e.g. encyclicals,
etc). He already regretted publicly that a part of his lecture at the
Regensburg University was misconceived. He is open for a dialog with
the leaders of all religions on the basis of "rationality".

> > Most Islamic leaders, meanwhile, are trying to calm down the emotions
> > evoked. Yet, the radicals won't listen and intellectually consider
> > the stuff brought into the discussion, but rather continue to stir
> > things up.
> >
>
> In each religion and each culture there are the average and then the
> extremists.
> Who you gonna believe.
>

I don't believe in any irrationality.


>
> I noticed one article said that the coptic christian patriarch found

> the statements offensive, and criticized.


> i found that interesting, because apparently he may be taking this as
> a cultural insult, not a political or religious one.
> there is good guys and bad guys everywhere. Til everyone listens to

> the other side's view, no solution.
>
I think that the Pope was mislead and did not envisage /in a diplomatic
context/ what the quote he used would perpetrate in the Islamic world.
That's a pity. But, perhaps, while everyone is alert now around the
world, the further steps in an attempt of spreading peace among the
cultures and their various religions might get more weight in the
future.

_Movies_

> here's the josephine baker movie, although i could be wrong about it
> being made by hbo
>
> http://imdb.com/title/tt0102167/
>

Yeah, thanks!


_Miscellaneous_


>
> 'This is not a political
> discussion group, it's a
> FOR SALE group. Thank You!'--Jim Smith
>

My new notebook still needs a lot of /time consuming/ adaptation
work...

marika

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Sep 19, 2006, 7:16:54 PM9/19/06
to

Frank Kalder wrote:
> marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> _Pope_
> > >
> >
> > THE POPE IS INFALLIBLE
> > SO HE CAN'T APOLOGIZE

that was a joke

> >
> The infallibility applies only to formal documents (e.g. encyclicals,
> etc). He already regretted publicly that a part of his lecture at the
> Regensburg University was misconceived. He is open for a dialog with
> the leaders of all religions on the basis of "rationality".
>
> > > Most Islamic leaders, meanwhile, are trying to calm down the emotions
> > > evoked. Yet, the radicals won't listen and intellectually consider
> > > the stuff brought into the discussion, but rather continue to stir
> > > things up.
> > >
> >
> > In each religion and each culture there are the average and then the
> > extremists.
> > Who you gonna believe.
> >
> I don't believe in any irrationality.

You know my take on this. even moderates can be irrational. most
religion is. but in the context of trying to explain what appears to
irrational and then later as centuries go by may be better explained
with something rational. .

i like the irrational because it gave us much poetry, art, songs and so
on

> >
> > I noticed one article said that the coptic christian patriarch found
> > the statements offensive, and criticized.
> > i found that interesting, because apparently he may be taking this as
> > a cultural insult, not a political or religious one.
> > there is good guys and bad guys everywhere. Til everyone listens to
> > the other side's view, no solution.
> >
> I think that the Pope was mislead and did not envisage /in a diplomatic
> context/ what the quote he used would perpetrate in the Islamic world.
> That's a pity. But, perhaps, while everyone is alert now around the
> world, the further steps in an attempt of spreading peace among the
> cultures and their various religions might get more weight in the
> future.


spreading peace is not always a profitable endeavor, take john lennon
for example

i guess i am not very good at discussing politics and religion. i tend
to see a middle ground and wonder why folks don't. that's not to say
that i don't become rabid about something i believe in rabidly. but
that's a rare occurrence. i think i could argue either side though, if
some one paid me money to argue one side or the other.


>
> _Movies_
>
> > here's the josephine baker movie, although i could be wrong about it
> > being made by hbo
> >
> > http://imdb.com/title/tt0102167/
> >
> Yeah, thanks!
>
>
> _Miscellaneous_
> >
> > 'This is not a political
> > discussion group, it's a
> > FOR SALE group. Thank You!'--Jim Smith
> >
>
> My new notebook still needs a lot of /time consuming/ adaptation
> work...
>

take your time, we know you have a life beyond this blog

unlike dc though, now i have to rebuild my social contacts here, as
most have moved on, i no longer have a life beyond business and blog

mk5000

"Anything that makes anyone question the foundation of anything is
dangerous," he said. "My music does that, and it disturbs people, but
sometimes it's pleasant. Honestly, there's a sense of humor to my
music, but people don't realize that.

Now take a fragment of sound from all those records and combine them
with abstract lyrics and spoken-word pieces.

I call this method 'sonic tagging.i And that's what Riddim Warfare
is: a wall of musical graffiti based on the idea of sampling and
building bridges between cultures.

Music today is at a crossroads, on one end it is open, and on the other
end it is conservative.

Pop music seems to be sad, because it isn't open anymore. It's a
recycle of what was once open. In the end, the state of music is just
chaos." --dj spooky, innovator of the illbient sound
"

marika

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Frank Kalder wrote:
> marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> _Pope_
> > >
> >
> > THE POPE IS INFALLIBLE
> > SO HE CAN'T APOLOGIZE

that was a joke

> >
> The infallibility applies only to formal documents (e.g. encyclicals,
> etc). He already regretted publicly that a part of his lecture at the
> Regensburg University was misconceived. He is open for a dialog with
> the leaders of all religions on the basis of "rationality".
>
> > > Most Islamic leaders, meanwhile, are trying to calm down the emotions
> > > evoked. Yet, the radicals won't listen and intellectually consider
> > > the stuff brought into the discussion, but rather continue to stir
> > > things up.
> > >
> >
> > In each religion and each culture there are the average and then the
> > extremists.
> > Who you gonna believe.
> >
> I don't believe in any irrationality.

You know my take on this. even moderates can be irrational. most


religion is. but in the context of trying to explain what appears to
irrational and then later as centuries go by may be better explained
with something rational. .

i like the irrational because it gave us much poetry, art, songs and so
on

> >


> > I noticed one article said that the coptic christian patriarch found
> > the statements offensive, and criticized.
> > i found that interesting, because apparently he may be taking this as
> > a cultural insult, not a political or religious one.
> > there is good guys and bad guys everywhere. Til everyone listens to
> > the other side's view, no solution.
> >
> I think that the Pope was mislead and did not envisage /in a diplomatic
> context/ what the quote he used would perpetrate in the Islamic world.
> That's a pity. But, perhaps, while everyone is alert now around the
> world, the further steps in an attempt of spreading peace among the
> cultures and their various religions might get more weight in the
> future.

spreading peace is not always a profitable endeavor, take john lennon
for example

i guess i am not very good at discussing politics and religion. i tend
to see a middle ground and wonder why folks don't. that's not to say
that i don't become rabid about something i believe in rabidly. but
that's a rare occurrence. i think i could argue either side though, if
some one paid me money to argue one side or the other.


>


> _Movies_
>
> > here's the josephine baker movie, although i could be wrong about it
> > being made by hbo
> >
> > http://imdb.com/title/tt0102167/
> >
> Yeah, thanks!
>
>
> _Miscellaneous_
> >
> > 'This is not a political
> > discussion group, it's a
> > FOR SALE group. Thank You!'--Jim Smith
> >
>
> My new notebook still needs a lot of /time consuming/ adaptation
> work...
>

take your time, we know you have a life beyond this blog

Frank Kalder

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Sep 20, 2006, 3:36:23 AM9/20/06
to
marika wrote:
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> >
_Pope_
>
> > >
> > > In each religion and each culture there are the average and then the
> > > extremists.
> > > Who you gonna believe.
> > >
> > I don't believe in any irrationality.
>
> You know my take on this. even moderates can be irrational. most
> religion is. but in the context of trying to explain what appears to
> irrational and then later as centuries go by may be better explained
> with something rational. .
>
> i like the irrational because it gave us much poetry, art, songs and so
> on
>
Well, from that point of view I agree ;)

>
> > >
> > > I noticed one article said that the coptic christian patriarch found
> > > the statements offensive, and criticized.
> > > i found that interesting, because apparently he may be taking this as
> > > a cultural insult, not a political or religious one.
> > > there is good guys and bad guys everywhere. Til everyone listens to
> > > the other side's view, no solution.
> > >
> > I think that the Pope was mislead and did not envisage /in a diplomatic
> > context/ what the quote he used would perpetrate in the Islamic world.
> > That's a pity. But, perhaps, while everyone is alert now around the
> > world, the further steps in an attempt of spreading peace among the
> > cultures and their various religions might get more weight in the
> > future.
>
>
> spreading peace is not always a profitable endeavor, take john lennon
> for example
>
Anyway, it's encouraging that outstanding leaders (in politics,
religions, business, science, society) boost the idea of a peaceful
life on this planet.

> i guess i am not very good at discussing politics and religion. i tend
> to see a middle ground and wonder why folks don't. that's not to say
> that i don't become rabid about something i believe in rabidly. but
> that's a rare occurrence.
>

As a young guy I liked that sort of arguing for hours and hours...

> i think i could argue either side though, if
> some one paid me money to argue one side or the other.
>

Yep ;)))

_Roanoke_


>
> unlike dc though, now i have to rebuild my social contacts here, as
> most have moved on, i no longer have a life beyond business and blog
>

I guess, as you explained, it may be difficult because of the 'church
domination' in that area.
>
_Miscellaneous_

>
> "Anything that makes anyone question the foundation of anything is
> dangerous," he said. "My music does that, and it disturbs people, but
> sometimes it's pleasant. Honestly, there's a sense of humor to my
> music, but people don't realize that.
>
> Now take a fragment of sound from all those records and combine them
> with abstract lyrics and spoken-word pieces.
>

> I call this method 'sonic tagging. i and that's what Riddim Warfare


> is: a wall of musical graffiti based on the idea of sampling and
> building bridges between cultures.
>
> Music today is at a crossroads, on one end it is open, and on the other
> end it is conservative.
>
> Pop music seems to be sad, because it isn't open anymore. It's a
> recycle of what was once open. In the end, the state of music is just
> chaos." --dj spooky, innovator of the illbient sound
>

It seems to be the way it goes and may be perceived...

marika

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Sep 20, 2006, 7:58:31 PM9/20/06
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Frank Kalder wrote:

> >
> > > >
> > > > I noticed one article said that the coptic christian patriarch found
> > > > the statements offensive, and criticized.
> > > > i found that interesting, because apparently he may be taking this as
> > > > a cultural insult, not a political or religious one.
> > > > there is good guys and bad guys everywhere. Til everyone listens to
> > > > the other side's view, no solution.
> > > >
> > > I think that the Pope was mislead and did not envisage /in a diplomatic
> > > context/ what the quote he used would perpetrate in the Islamic world.
> > > That's a pity. But, perhaps, while everyone is alert now around the
> > > world, the further steps in an attempt of spreading peace among the
> > > cultures and their various religions might get more weight in the
> > > future.
> >
> >
> > spreading peace is not always a profitable endeavor, take john lennon
> > for example
> >
> Anyway, it's encouraging that outstanding leaders (in politics,
> religions, business, science, society) boost the idea of a peaceful
> life on this planet.
>
> > i guess i am not very good at discussing politics and religion. i tend
> > to see a middle ground and wonder why folks don't. that's not to say
> > that i don't become rabid about something i believe in rabidly. but
> > that's a rare occurrence.
> >
> As a young guy I liked that sort of arguing for hours and hours...

i bet you are not old! and i bet you still like arguing this sort of
thing for hours and hours.

but i like to inject irrationality and rewrite scripture, especially
since oil is now a worlwide religion.

Genesis 15:7: "God said
unto Abraham, I am the LORD who brought you out of the land of Urban
and Suburban of
the Chaldees to give this SUV to you to inherit it. And Abraham said,
Lord God, how shall I know that I will inherit it?

did you watch the un speeches, especially chavez' comments about bush.

the silly american news commentators did not understand the reference
to the smell of sulfur i think. chavez had just finished referring to
bush as satan.

any bit of literature you read mentions satan and the smell of sulfur
in the same paragraph.

these silly guys thought chavez was referring to flatus. how well read
could these guys be?

speaking of hell fire, last night i was baking something in the oven
and the smoke alarm went off. there really wasn't very much smoke and
certainly not so that the alarm should have gone off, but it seems to
do that anytime i cook even when i don't burn anything.

which i didn't do yesterday.
i suspect maybe a trapped crumb got burned or something

anway, i grabbed a towel to help wave the smoke away and dissipate to
make the alarm go off

and my shoulder went karunch.

so i have reinjured the shoulder where i got mugged. it's on fire.

more on hell and fire. where there's smoke there's fire. where
there's fire, there's smoke.

i went shopping for food today. to the smoked fishes. they have very
little and they have a very little creamed herring. but it's not like
i am used to, with tons of sour cream. this is more of a thick cream
sauce.

the vendor said he had never had smoked chubb til the previous week and
was so delighted with it. he then asked me how you are supposed to eat
these smoked fishes. i said try it with a side of rye bread or a
bagel. how strange for me to live in a city that doesn't understand
smoked fishes.

but the good news, my friend just brought back some astrakhan caviar
from moscow!!!

so Frank please feel free to provide more comments on politics and
religion. i will continue to learn from them. but i will also
probably continue to respond irrationally!! sorry!!!

i had to translate this, but now that i have i really like it

mk5000

'Fabrico recuerdos que atas con nostalgia a mi canción
Jamás podre dejarla
Mi vida es una canción
Soy escultor del alma'--Hasta Que El Cuerpo Aguante
Artist: Mago De Oz

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