Deborah Sharavi's disgraceful behavior on behalf of the Israeli right wing and the Israel Lobby

coaste...@yahoo.com

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Mar 28, 2010, 4:07:20 PM3/28/10

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On Mar 25, 2:39 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 24, 9:25 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I've just posted the Israel-US Memorandum of Understanding
>
> Which one? There are several.
>
> Deborah

Readers, please note Deborah Sharavi's disgraceful method of operation
on behalf of Israel and the Lobby. What I actually wrote about the
Memorandum of Understanding was as follows:

"I've just posted the Israel-US Memorandum of Understanding providing
for these welfare contributions. I've added some observations as to
what I think it means."

Deborah Sharavi wanted to keep you from reading the Memorandum---and
most importantly the comments on its legal status---for political
reasons, i.e., because she doesn't want you to know that the apparent
gift of $30 Billion in weapons over ten years is NOT BINDING ON THE
UNITED STATES. THE MEMORANDUM, OR ANY PART OF IT, MAY BE TERMINATED AT
WILL AT ANY TIME. So she clipped it after the word
"Understanding" (see about six lines above) in order to be able to
introduce a false impression of ambiguity which she then used to
interject, "Which one? There are several." That was an act of pure
deceit which is characteristic of her here in the role of champion of
the Israeli Lunatic Right and the Israel Lobby.

WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT TO ISRAEL AND THE LOBBY? The American people
generally don't know that the arms grant of $30 Billion over 10 years
is not a binding bi-lateral treaty ratified by the Senate. It is a
mere MOU, a mere declaration of the *present* intention of the U.S.
Accordingly they don't know that It can be cancelled or simply not
complied with at any time at the direction of the President with or
without an explanation. The most particular reason she doesn't want
you to know this is that currently there is a stand-off between
Netanyahu and President Obama which looks as though it is going to
escalate with America putting more and more pressure on the Israelis
to settle in good faith with the Palestinians. The endless pipeline of
weapons which flows to Israel constantly year after year, decade after
decade, can simply stop at any moment. Such is the power in the
relationship held by the President of the United States.

drahcir

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Mar 28, 2010, 4:36:10 PM3/28/10

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http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.israel/msg/7603588266296075

You fled from that one.

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/c10cee18c6ee1f05

You'll flee from that one.

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.israel/msg/70e59d04b030ede3

You fled from that one.

It figures that unprincipled, lying scum like you would be an
antisemite - goes with the territory.

DoD

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Mar 28, 2010, 4:39:53 PM3/28/10

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He is on his way of becoming a kook of Alex Serendin status.....What a
waste that POS is. I think one
could make a wit and wisdom of hhw file....

Bolt Upright

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Mar 28, 2010, 5:14:36 PM3/28/10

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Unlike Doodoo, who lacks both wit and wisdom, but certainly qualifies
for the POS label.

Stewart

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Mar 28, 2010, 5:56:47 PM3/28/10

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"Bolt Upright" <Nob...@home.com> wrote in message
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Hahaha...looks who's talking, the biggest cocksucking nazi coward POS
going.

DoD

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Mar 28, 2010, 6:08:57 PM3/28/10

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On Mar 28, 4:56 pm, "Stewart" <gorta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Bolt Upright" <Nobo...@home.com> wrote in message

> going.-

Most peopel ignore the brillo headed fuck. This is the only way he can
pester other
humans and be mouthy without getting in extreme trouble. I have
pretty much learned
to ignore him like most everybody else. Ever notice how he follows
people around like
a mosquito? I own this fat ass. He is my puppet.

Bolt Upright

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Mar 28, 2010, 6:16:55 PM3/28/10

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Well Stewie, if I was inclined that way such as yourself, it'd only be
big ones so you wouldn't have a chance.

Bolt Upright

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Mar 28, 2010, 6:19:18 PM3/28/10

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You're pretending to be human now? Give it a rest!

> and be mouthy without getting in extreme trouble. I have
> pretty much learned
> to ignore him like most everybody else. Ever notice how he follows
> people around like
> a mosquito? I own this fat ass. He is my puppet.
>

You *wish*, you pathetic little cretin!
ROTFLMAO!

coaste...@yahoo.com

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Mar 29, 2010, 4:09:39 PM3/29/10

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On Mar 28, 2:36 pm, drahcir <justrichardsmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.israel/msg/7603588266296075
>
> You fled from that one.

Clip

It figures that unprincipled, lying scum like you would be an
antisemite - goes with the territory.

Clip

Here's an answer to your first url which you say I fled:

On Mar 25, 9:12 am, drahcir <justrichardsmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 24, 10:41 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 24, 3:52 pm, drahcir <justrichardsmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 24, 3:16 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > U.S.-Israel rift undermining some long-standing taboos
> > > > BY GLENN GREENWALD

Clip for brevity

> > Here it is again, from the end of "Update Two":
>
> > "American Jews determine their
> > political beliefs based on what is best for Israel rather than the
> > U.S. -- exactly the "dual loyalty" assumption that, when made by
> > others, this very same faction brands as anti-Semitic."

(Clip foul ad homs)

Note, readers, that the header for this thread, which Ratner initially
thought I had written, was taken directly from Glenn Greenwald's
article, word for word. I did not write it. I often prefer to use an
author's words or his meaning to introduce an article of substance. I
should have put it into quotation marks but it doesn't matter because
Ratner finally found it at the end of Greenwald's "update two". When
he wrote this absolutely filthy post he already knew that my header
was pure Greenwald but continued his charade to the effect that it was
mine.

Now, Glenn Greenwald is a very prominent Jewish American critic of the
Lobby and of Israeli policy. He has very good credentials. He's a
truth teller, a rebel. He's a prominent and very well informed public
intellectual with a wide readership. I admire his guts. He is quoted
all over the web.

What Ratner hates is what Greenwald PROVES about conflict of interest
on the Israel question among American Jews, a subject I have often
raised only to be accused of antisemitsm. What he hates even more is
that Greenwald points out the hypocrisy of the accusation of
antisemitism in the same context. Here is Greenwald's penetrating
comment again:

> > "American Jews determine their
> > political beliefs based on what is best for Israel rather than the
> > U.S. -- exactly the "dual loyalty" assumption that, when made by
> > others, this very same faction brands as anti-Semitic."

Refusal to ADMIT to conflict of interest, i.e., a knowing
determination to forge ahead despite compromised allegiance, is at the
root of the problem. Sometimes it's called dual loyalty though it's
often in reality single loyalty, loyalty to Israel irrespective of the
impact on the United States.

It's not that this pattern is inexplicable. It must be a difficult
situation for those afflicted by it. Everyone faces conflict of
interest in one form or another sooner or later. But the rule is
clear. When you do have a conflict you must disclose it and step
aside. For example, Judges *must* recuse themselves, lawyers *must*
withdraw from all contact with the issues in question. It's formally
required by the codes of legal ethics. Richard, the principle applies
not only to professional life, but to life in general and certainly to
politics and professional level work in the making of foreign policy
in government. If you can't be objective you must step aside.

Our problem is that the immensely powerful Israel Lobby is filled with
people who are profoundly afflicted by it, people who won't even admit
that American interests bear little resemblance to those of Israel in
the Middle East, people with immense financial clout. What permitting
this to continue without pushing back openly and hard over all these
years has cost America is beyond calculation. I've been your personal
messenger to the effect that it is ending in both the interests of
America and, incidentally, of Israel. Were it not for *your* conflict
you would be welcoming it.

> HERE IS THE CONTEXT:

Wasn't the article the context? After all you attack me personally
for posting it.

> "The neoconservative Right has been making similar predictions for
> years
> with complete futility, but think about it: what is the core
> assumption of such a claim? That American Jews determine their
> political beliefs based on what is best for Israel rather than the
> U.S. -- exactly the "dual loyalty" assumption that, when made by
> others, this very same faction brands as anti-Semitic."

So, it's "a core assumption" which you think Greenwald indulges which
has you in such a state? It hadn't occurred to me but continue,
please.

> So the statement is the BASIS of the FUTILE and FALSE claim that
> American Jews will abandon the Democratic party. It is NOT A STATEMENT
> OF FACT, but rather a statement that is PROVEN FALSE by the fact that
> the predicted outcome DID NOT AND HAS NOT OCCURRED.

First you say the offence lies in a "core assumption" made by
Greenwald. Now you've escalated to a statement which Greenwald doesn't
seem to make either.

You're hyperventilating, Richard. I've always believed that Jewish
support of the Democratic Party was principled. My Dad pointed that
out to me as yet another reason why antisemitism was irrational and
evil. Perhaps I also believe it to be principled because I agreed with
them most of the time over the years. But for me, what really capped
it was watching the Jews of America rise to the top in most every
endeavor, becoming our most wealthy minority by far, and they STILL
did not waiver in their liberalism. I see that as proof of principled
politics.

I have predictions for you. The Democratic President, Barak Obama,
will follow through and there will be a settlement with a Palestinian
capital in East Jerusalem. He will be re-elected with the principled
support of most Jewish Americans who will realize the truth of what
I'm going to tell you below.

> H, you are lying scum, pure, unalduterated scum, and the stupidest of
> anyone here. The lowest of the low. A maggot is an unattainable
> aspiration for you. Now go wallow in your shame, if you have any
> ability to do so.

As I see it Israel's choices are quite stark:

1. Continuing present policy on the path to an unsustainable, formally
segregated South African style state cum bantustans with endless and
increasingly dangerous regional wars which we Americans are going to
have to disassociate ourselves from;

2. Completion of the ethnic cleansing of all Palestine from the Jordan
west, which will turn Israel into a defensive garrison state with the
Resistance revitalized, over-recruited and even more determined on her
periphery---and with Iran absolutely determined to solve her Israel
Problem;

3. A single state solution with equal rights for all which will be the
end of the Jewish State, a solution too logical to be adopted;

4. A single state solution with first and second class citizens which
will be the end of the Jewish State and lead to civil war;

5. Or a viable two state solution which will preserve the Jewish
State, provide a homeland for the Palestinians, provide amnesty for
all involved and be supported by the entire Muslim world. And which
will include the first ever formal defensive treaty with the United
States and the other western great powers.

Face it, Richard. The present policies of Israel's right wing are
leading her to a dead end. Functionally you are anti-Israel.

coaste...@yahoo.com

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Mar 29, 2010, 4:12:03 PM3/29/10

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One certainly could and I've been compiling it.

drahcir

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Mar 29, 2010, 4:40:01 PM3/29/10

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On Mar 29, 4:09 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>

That is just another lie - I clearly cited the context of that header.

> was taken directly from Glenn Greenwald's
> article, word for word. I did not write it.

No one said you wrote it. Here's exactly, word for word, what I said,
what you tried your best in this "reply" to slash apart so it wouldn't
be comprehensible anymore:
*********
HERE IS THE CONTEXT:

"The neoconservative Right has been making similar predictions for
years with complete futility, but think about it: what is the core
assumption of such a claim? That American Jews determine their
political beliefs based on what is best for Israel rather than the
U.S. -- exactly the "dual loyalty" assumption that, when made by
others, this very same faction brands as anti-Semitic."

So the statement [your header] is the BASIS of the FUTILE and FALSE

claim that
American Jews will abandon the Democratic party. It is NOT A STATEMENT
OF FACT, but rather a statement that is PROVEN FALSE by the fact that
the predicted outcome DID NOT AND HAS NOT OCCURRED.

********

To make sure that every single solitary reader understands, the line
you quoted in your header, namely

"American Jews determine their
political beliefs based on what is best for Israel rather than the
U.S. -- exactly the "dual loyalty" assumption that, when made by
others, this very same faction brands as anti-Semitic."

was cited by the author as the FALSE assumption about American Jews
made by the neoconservative right. YOU tried to make it seem that the
author made this observation about American Jews. YOU ARE A LIAR. It's
really much too simple, blatant, and obvious a lie for you to try to
obfuscate, but hey, give it your best shot.

Regarding the below, it is simply mounds of pathetic bullshit posted
for one reason: to try to distract from what you did. You lied, it's
such a blatant lie that it will escape no one, and the below will only
be seen as more lies to try to escape from having been caught in the
original lie.

Understand something, H. As much as you try to squirm and twist and
turn to inundate the group with your ridiculous attempts at escape by
inundation and lies, I will bring us back to the obvious, simple fact
of your attempt to deceive. Every time you do so, you will have to
resort to more lies, as you did above when you wrote

> Note, readers, that the header for this thread, which Ratner initially
> thought I had written,

and that will simply give me more ammunition against you. The below
diatribe might serve entertainment purposes for some, but I've got
much better things to do. Adios, senor el cazado.

tdny

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Mar 29, 2010, 5:18:37 PM3/29/10

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http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/capitalism-love-story/

drahcir

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Mar 29, 2010, 6:32:30 PM3/29/10

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On Mar 29, 5:18 pm, "tdny" <t...@live.com> wrote:
> http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/capitalism-love-story/

Does the term "relevant" have any meaning for you, bigot?

tdny

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Mar 29, 2010, 6:34:57 PM3/29/10

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http://www.documentarywire.com/monopoly-men#menu

The Federal Reserve, or the Fed as it is lovingly called,
may be one of the most mysterious entities in modern American government.

Created during Wilson's presidency to protect the
economy in times of financial turmoil, its real business
remains to be discovered. During the Wilson presidency,
the U.S. government sanctions the creation of the Federal Reserve.

Thought by many to be a government organization maintained
to provide financial accountability in the event of a domestic
depression, the actual business of the Fed is shrouded in secrecy.

Many Americans will be shocked to discover that
the principle business of the Fed is to print money
from nothing, lend it to the U.S. government and
charge interest on these loans.

Who keeps the interest?

Good question.

Find out as the connective tissue between this and
other top-secret international organizations is
explored and exposed.

drahcir

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Mar 29, 2010, 7:40:55 PM3/29/10

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You are really a dimwit in addition to being a bigot, aren't you?
Whatsimatta, all the jews you know much smarter than you are, so you
want to get even?

drahcir

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Mar 29, 2010, 7:52:01 PM3/29/10

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On Mar 29, 6:34 pm, "tdny" <t...@live.com> wrote:
> http://www.documentarywire.com/monopoly-men#menu
<snip>

>
> Who keeps the interest?
>
> Good question.

Sorry to put a wet blanket on all of your conspiracy fun. Now you'll
have to find some other way to occupy yourself. Try some high-fat
snacks.

From wikipedia:

"the US Government does not own shares in the Federal Reserve System
nor its component banks, but does take all of its profits after
salaries are paid to employees, a dividend is paid to member banks
that is 6% of their capital investment, and surplus is put in a
capital account. "

Sheesh, check out td's profile. 1179 worthless posts from this cretin-
bigot this month. That's an average of 40 per day. Now consider the
fact that this cretin-bigot writes none of her stuff, but has to spend
time searching it out. Tell me, td, do you still live with mommy and
daddy?

tdny

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Mar 29, 2010, 8:56:22 PM3/29/10

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"drahcir" <justrich...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 29, 6:34 pm, "tdny" <t...@live.com> wrote:
>> http://www.documentarywire.com/monopoly-men#menu
> <snip>
>>
>> Who keeps the interest?
>>
>> Good question.
>
> Sorry to put a wet blanket on all of your conspiracy fun. Now you'll
> have to find some other way to occupy yourself. Try some high-fat
> snacks.

Well you will send the Palestinian children clothing, shoes, crayons and
pasta,
all blocked by the Jewish State and I will enjoy low calorie snacks.

Last update - 17:38 29/03/2010
Israel allows clothes, shoes into blockaded Gaza for first time
By Reuters
Tags: Israel news, Gaza, Hamas

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1159929.html

Israel will allow a shipment of clothes and shoes to be
delivered to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip for the first
time in its almost three-year-old tight blockade of the enclave,
Palestinian officials said on Monday.

They said the first 10 truckloads would be arriving
via the Israeli-controlled Gaza border point on Thursday.

Israel is under international pressure to relax its blockade,
which the United Nations says punishes Gaza's 1.5 million
people over their leaders -

the Islamist group Hamas, considered by
Israel and others a terrorist organization.

Israel prohibits shipments of cement and steel to
Gaza on the grounds that Hamas could use them
for military purposes.

Its long list of controlled goods also includes items
that critics say have no apparent military value,
such as children's crayons and books.

Gaza has been getting most of its consumer goods via
tunnels from neighboring Egypt, operated by smugglers
who add on hefty surcharges.

Gaza merchants said 10 truckloads would not fill
their stocks and demanded that Israel release goods
long held in its sea ports.

Egypt is building an underground wall to block the tunnels,
which have been frequently bombed by the Israeli air forces
since Israel's offensive against Hamas 14 months ago in
which some 1,400 Palestinians and 13 Israelis were killed.
PROMOTION: Mamilla Hotel

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On Mar 29, 5:52 pm, drahcir <justrichardsmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 29, 6:34 pm, "tdny" <t...@live.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.documentarywire.com/monopoly-men#menu
> <snip>
>
> > Who keeps the interest?
>
> > Good question.
>
> Sorry to put a wet blanket on all of your conspiracy fun. Now you'll
> have to find some other way to occupy yourself. Try some high-fat
> snacks.
>
> From wikipedia:
>
> "the US Government does not own shares in the Federal Reserve System
> nor its component banks, but does take all of its profits after
> salaries are paid to employees, a dividend is paid to member banks
> that is 6% of their capital investment, and surplus is put in a
> capital account. "
>
> Sheesh, check out td's profile. 1179 worthless posts from this cretin-
> bigot this month. That's an average of 40 per day. Now consider the
> fact that this cretin-bigot writes none of her stuff, but has to spend
> time searching it out. Tell me, td, do you still live with mommy and
> daddy?

Actually, Miss Ratner, td has exquisite taste in the choice of
material she presents us. That's precisely why you defame her. As a
matter of fact you always display levels of defamatory frenzy in
direct proportion to the damage a given person does your neo-fascist
cause. She does you a lot of damage. I know. I read them all. And
she's getting this material from reputable sources too. It's down hill
for you, Ratner, just as is the case with Bibi.

drahcir

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Mar 30, 2010, 1:05:13 PM3/30/10

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On Mar 30, 12:31 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Any neutral observer of this particular thread would say that you have
other things to worry about besides td, H.

coaste...@yahoo.com

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Mar 30, 2010, 1:35:24 PM3/30/10

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On Mar 29, 6:56 pm, "tdny" <t...@live.com> wrote:
> "drahcir" <justrichardsmu...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:2890bab0-33ec-4699...@j21g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Mar 29, 6:34 pm, "tdny" <t...@live.com> wrote:
> >>http://www.documentarywire.com/monopoly-men#menu
> > <snip>
>
> >> Who keeps the interest?
>
> >> Good question.
>
> > Sorry to put a wet blanket on all of your conspiracy fun. Now you'll
> > have to find some other way to occupy yourself. Try some high-fat
> > snacks.
>
> Well you will send the Palestinian children clothing, shoes, crayons and
> pasta,
> all blocked by the Jewish State and I will enjoy low calorie snacks.

Can you believe Ratner's state of mind? An absolute frenzy. When he
reads your carefully chosen articles he sees that the painstakingly
amassed influence in the mainstream media is superfluous. In fact that
the mainstream media is itself a superfluous dinosaur, not even a very
smart investment and it's ridiculed to boot. When he morphs into a
rage you're read even more. When he looks at the stiff, dual-
citizenship dude with the comb-over whom he thought was so brilliant
that he would roll over President Obama, he now sees that the guy's
arrogant, all neo-fascist coalition is a no-exit affair, that the
Primeministership was a hollow prize and that the charming Tzippi
waits patiently in the wings to save Israel by working WITH Obama.

>
> Last update - 17:38 29/03/2010
> Israel allows clothes, shoes into blockaded Gaza for first time
> By Reuters
> Tags: Israel news, Gaza, Hamas
>
> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1159929.html

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Mar 30, 2010, 8:40:15 PM3/30/10

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Indeed! Ms Torres has more than her fair share of stalkers.

Stewart

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Mar 30, 2010, 9:31:13 PM3/30/10

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"DoD" <danski...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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A sock puppet, at that.

Stewart

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Mar 30, 2010, 9:33:18 PM3/30/10

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"Bolt Upright" <Nob...@home.com> wrote in message

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> Well Stewie, I am inclined that way, only big ones.
>

So, you admittedly like big weenie. I am glad you have found your
calling......

coaste...@yahoo.com

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On Mar 30, 7:33 pm, "Stewart" <gorta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Bolt Upright" <Nobo...@home.com> wrote in message

>
> news:c915e$4bafd55c$cf701d2a$89...@PRIMUS.CA...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 3/28/2010 5:56 PM, Stewart wrote:

> >> "Bolt Upright"<Nobo...@home.com> wrote in message

> >>news:29949$4bafc6bb$cf701d2a$77...@PRIMUS.CA...
>
> >>> On 3/28/2010 4:39 PM, DoD wrote:
>
> >>>> On Mar 28, 3:36 pm, drahcir<justrichardsmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.israel/msg/7603588266296075
>
> >>>>> You fled from that one.
>
> >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/c10cee18c6ee1f05
>
> >>>>> You'll flee from that one.
>
> >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.israel/msg/70e59d04b030ede3
>
> >>>>> You fled from that one.
>
> >>>>> It figures that unprincipled, lying scum like you would be an
> >>>>> antisemite - goes with the territory.
>
> >>>> He is on his way of becoming a kook of Alex Serendin
> >>>> status.....What a
> >>>> waste that POS is. I think one
> >>>> could make a wit and wisdom of hhw file....
>
> >>> Unlike Doodoo, who lacks both wit and wisdom, but certainly
> >>> qualifies for the POS label.
>
> >> Hahaha...looks who's talking, the biggest cocksucking nazi coward
> >> POS
> >> going.
>
> > Well Stewie, I am inclined that way, only big ones.
>
> So, you admittedly like big weenie. I am glad you have found your
> calling......

You're a class act, Stewie. A real Mensch.

DoD

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On Mar 30, 8:38 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Maybe, but he certainly isn't a bitter old antisemite preaching lies
and bullshit to other trolls on
Jewish newsgroups.

coaste...@yahoo.com

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Mar 30, 2010, 11:59:04 PM3/30/10

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These aren't "Jewish" newsgroups, David. You've never understood that.
They belong to the fittest. That's why you were driven out. Even your
final strategy of covering yourself in filth in hopes that it might
rub off on your enemies has been a failure.

DoD

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"mirjam" <mir...@actcom.co.il> wrote in message
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>>
>> Nothing is hidden anymore, no one can control the images.
>
> And anyone can Fabricate Images as well !!!!!! Like the Dura Case ,,,
> mirjam

You think these kids are acting, that they are not genuine, Mirjam?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ2fe1U-YnY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGMe2s_KJB0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNVGxJ14XfI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4L7R8JEU6k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaKekAIIOUE

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Whatever is done in one corner of the world,
is instantly seen by anyone with a laptop,
or even just a mobile cellphone, whether they
live in a hut in a 3rd world country or on Park
Avenue, in the USA.

Nothing is hidden anymore, no one can control the images.

coaste...@yahoo.com

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On Mar 30, 10:14 pm, DoD <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 10:59 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>

> Clip

>
> > These aren't "Jewish" newsgroups, David. You've never understood that.
> > They belong to the fittest. That's why you were driven out. Even your
> > final strategy of covering yourself in filth in hopes that it might
> > rub off on your enemies has been a failure
>
> That is funny troll.... But you already know how ridiculous you look
> as the broken down
> piece of shit that you are.
>
> That is why I don't bother....You are quite simply a dunce preaching
> to the underbelly of
> society.... You clown.

You're closer to that underbelly than you think. I've been saving this
for you, David. As a devout Roman Catholic you have far more important
things with which to occupy your mind. I'll take care of matters of
war and peace. You take care of this:

The Pope Is Not Above the Law

The crimes within the Catholic Church demand justice.

By Christopher Hitchens

Posted Monday, March 29, 2010, at 1:53 PM ET

Pope Benedict XVI
One by one, as I predicted, the pathetic excuses of Joseph Ratzinger's
apologists evaporate before our eyes. It was said until recently that
when the Rev. Peter Hullermann was found to be a vicious pederast in
1980, the man who is now pope had no personal involvement in his
subsequent transfer to his own diocese or in his later unimpeded
career as a rapist and a molester. But now we find that the
psychiatrist to whom the church turned for "therapy" was adamant that
Hullermann never be allowed to go near children ever again. We also
find that Ratzinger was one of those to whom the memo about
Hullermann's transfer was actually addressed. All attempts to place
the blame on a loyal subordinate, Ratzinger's vicar general, the Rev.
Gerhard Gruber, have predictably failed. According to a recent report,
"the transfer of Father Hullermann from Essen would not have been a
routine matter, experts said." Either that—damning enough in itself—or
it perhaps would have been a routine matter, which is even worse.
Certainly the pattern—of finding another parish with fresh children
for the priest to assault—is the one that has become horribly
"routine" ever since and became standard practice when Ratzinger
became a cardinal and was placed in charge of the church's global
response to clerical pederasty.

So now a new defense has had to be hastily improvised. It is argued
that, during his time as archbishop of Munich and Freising, Germany,
Ratzinger was more preoccupied with doctrinal questions than with mere
disciplinary ones. Of course, of course: The future pope had his eyes
fixed on ethereal and divine matters and could not be expected to
concern himself with parish-level atrocities. This cobbled-up apologia
actually repays a little bit of study. What exactly were these
doctrinal issues? Well, apart from punishing a priest who celebrated a
Mass at an anti-war demonstration—which incidentally does seem to
argue for a "hands-on" approach to individual clergymen—Ratzinger's
chief concern appears to have been that of first communion and first
confession. Over the previous decade, it had become customary in
Bavaria to subject small children to their first communion at a tender
age but to wait a year until they made their first confession. It was
a matter of whether they were old enough to understand. Enough of this
liberalism, said Ratzinger, the first confession should come in the
same year as the first communion. One priest, the Rev. Wilfried
Sussbauer, reports that he wrote to Ratzinger expressing misgivings
about this and received "an extremely biting letter" in response.
So it seems that 1) Ratzinger was quite ready to take on individual
priests who gave him any trouble, and 2) he was very firm on one
crucial point of doctrine: Get them young. Tell them in their infancy
that it is they who are the sinners. Instill in them the necessary
sense of guilt. This is not at all without relevance to the disgusting
scandal into which the pope has now irretrievably plunged the church
he leads. Almost every episode in this horror show has involved small
children being seduced and molested in the confessional itself. To
take the most heart-rending cases to have emerged recently, namely the
torment of deaf children in the church-run schools in Wisconsin and
Verona, Italy, it is impossible to miss the calculated manner in which
the predators used the authority of the confessional in order to get
their way. And again the identical pattern repeats itself: Compassion
is to be shown only to the criminals. Ratzinger's own fellow clergy in
Wisconsin wrote to him urgently—by this time he was a cardinal in
Rome, supervising the global Catholic cover-up of rape and torture—
beseeching him to remove the Rev. Lawrence C. Murphy, who had
comprehensively wrecked the lives of as many as 200 children who could
not communicate their misery except in sign language. And no response
was forthcoming until Father Murphy himself appealed to Ratzinger for
mercy—and was granted it.

For Ratzinger, the sole test of a good priest is this: Is he obedient
and discreet and loyal to the traditionalist wing of the church? We
have seen this in his other actions as pope, notably in the lifting of
the excommunication of four bishops who were members of the so-called
Society of St. Pius X, that group of extreme-right-wing schismatics
founded by Father Marcel Lefebvre and including the Holocaust-denying
Richard Williamson. We saw it when he was a cardinal, defending the
cultish and creepy Legion of Christ, whose fanatical leader managed to
father some children as well as to shield the molestation of many
more. And we see it today, when countless rapists and pederasts are
being unmasked. One of those accused in the Verona deaf-school case is
the late archbishop of the city, Giuseppe Carraro. Next up, if our
courts can find time, will be the Rev. Donald McGuire, a serial
offender against boys who was also the confessor and "spiritual
director" for Mother Teresa. (He, too, found the confessional to be a
fine and private place and made extensive use of it.)

This is what makes the scandal an institutional one and not a matter
of delinquency here and there. The church needs and wants control of
the very young and asks their parents to entrust their children to
certain "confessors," who until recently enjoyed enormous prestige and
immunity. It cannot afford to admit that many of these confessors, and
their superiors, are calcified sadists who cannot believe their luck.
Nor can it afford to admit that the church regularly abandoned the
children and did its best to protect and sometimes even promote their
tormentors. So instead it is whiningly and falsely asserting that all
charges against the pope—none of them surfacing except from within the
Catholic community—are part of a plan to embarrass him.

This hasn't been true so far, but it ought to be true from now on.
This grisly little man is not above or outside the law. He is the
titular head of a small state. We know more and more of the names of
the children who were victims and of the pederasts who were his pets.
This is a crime under any law (as well as a sin), and crime demands
not sickly private ceremonies of "repentance," or faux compensation by
means of church-financed payoffs, but justice and punishment. The
secular authorities have been feeble for too long but now some lawyers
and prosecutors are starting to bestir themselves. I know some serious
men of law who are discussing what to do if Benedict tries to make his
proposed visit to Britain in the fall. It's enough. There has to be a
reckoning, and it should start now.

Honest truth

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On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:46:14 -0400, tdny wrote:

> http://www.ny1.com/6-bronx-news-content/top_stories/116091/top-state-court-rules-attempted-synagogue-bomber-committed-hate-crime

Since when does a hate crime require a victim that is a person?

--
ļæ½I will insist the Hebrews have [contributed] more to civilize men than any
other nation. If I was an atheist and believed in blind eternal fate, I
should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most
essential instrument for civilizing the nations ... They are the most
glorious nation that ever inhabited this Earth. The Romans and their empire
were but a bubble in comparison to the Jews. They have given religion to
three-quarters of the globe and have influenced the affairs of mankind more
and more happily than any other nation, ancient or modern.ļæ½

- John Adams, Second President of the United States

Honest truth

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On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:43:28 -0400, tdny wrote:

> Nothing is hidden anymore, no one can control the images.

We know the palestinians tried to stop these images too.

http://www.gamla.org.il/english/feature/lynch2a.htm

Jewdas

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Mar 31, 2010, 5:33:52 AM3/31/10

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Honest truth wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:46:14 -0400, tdny wrote:
>
>> http://www.ny1.com/6-bronx-news-content/top_stories/116091/top-state-court-rules-attempted-synagogue-bomber-committed-hate-crime
>
> Since when does a hate crime require a victim that is a person?

There is no such thing as a hate crime. A crime is a crime is a crime.
That hate crime bullshit is the lipstick put on the pig by the damned
Jews. If a Jew commits a crime...Which they seem to do on a very regular
basis. It is just a simple misunderstanding. When one upsets a Jew in
anyway ..that is their version of a hate crime.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Jewdas

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Mar 31, 2010, 5:46:49 AM3/31/10

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You have to understand that David along with his Drug, alcohol and
gambling addictions has a propensities for small boys also. Maybe
someday David will even get a job and our welfare system won't have to
feed the Yugowoggie any longer. He is in Kansas because he is in trouble
in other states. Tends also to make one wonder why you bother posting to
this AntiAmerican slimebag? I find it laughable that you think he is a
devout Catholic. Thats about the last place he wants to be.

> routine matter, experts said." Either thatï¿½damning enough in itselfï¿½or

> it perhaps would have been a routine matter, which is even worse.

> Certainly the patternï¿½of finding another parish with fresh children
> for the priest to assaultï¿½is the one that has become horribly

> "routine" ever since and became standard practice when Ratzinger
> became a cardinal and was placed in charge of the church's global
> response to clerical pederasty.
>
> So now a new defense has had to be hastily improvised. It is argued
> that, during his time as archbishop of Munich and Freising, Germany,
> Ratzinger was more preoccupied with doctrinal questions than with mere
> disciplinary ones. Of course, of course: The future pope had his eyes
> fixed on ethereal and divine matters and could not be expected to
> concern himself with parish-level atrocities. This cobbled-up apologia
> actually repays a little bit of study. What exactly were these
> doctrinal issues? Well, apart from punishing a priest who celebrated a

> Mass at an anti-war demonstrationï¿½which incidentally does seem to
> argue for a "hands-on" approach to individual clergymenï¿½Ratzinger's

> chief concern appears to have been that of first communion and first
> confession. Over the previous decade, it had become customary in
> Bavaria to subject small children to their first communion at a tender
> age but to wait a year until they made their first confession. It was
> a matter of whether they were old enough to understand. Enough of this
> liberalism, said Ratzinger, the first confession should come in the
> same year as the first communion. One priest, the Rev. Wilfried
> Sussbauer, reports that he wrote to Ratzinger expressing misgivings
> about this and received "an extremely biting letter" in response.
> So it seems that 1) Ratzinger was quite ready to take on individual
> priests who gave him any trouble, and 2) he was very firm on one
> crucial point of doctrine: Get them young. Tell them in their infancy
> that it is they who are the sinners. Instill in them the necessary
> sense of guilt. This is not at all without relevance to the disgusting
> scandal into which the pope has now irretrievably plunged the church
> he leads. Almost every episode in this horror show has involved small
> children being seduced and molested in the confessional itself. To
> take the most heart-rending cases to have emerged recently, namely the
> torment of deaf children in the church-run schools in Wisconsin and
> Verona, Italy, it is impossible to miss the calculated manner in which
> the predators used the authority of the confessional in order to get
> their way. And again the identical pattern repeats itself: Compassion
> is to be shown only to the criminals. Ratzinger's own fellow clergy in

> Wisconsin wrote to him urgentlyï¿½by this time he was a cardinal in
> Rome, supervising the global Catholic cover-up of rape and tortureï¿½

> beseeching him to remove the Rev. Lawrence C. Murphy, who had
> comprehensively wrecked the lives of as many as 200 children who could
> not communicate their misery except in sign language. And no response
> was forthcoming until Father Murphy himself appealed to Ratzinger for

> mercyï¿½and was granted it.

> charges against the popeï¿½none of them surfacing except from within the
> Catholic communityï¿½are part of a plan to embarrass him.

American Eagle

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Mar 31, 2010, 5:58:44 AM3/31/10

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Lying Sack of Shit wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:43:28 -0400, tdny wrote:
>
>> Nothing is hidden anymore, no one can control the images.
>
> We know the palestinians tried to stop these images too.
>
> http://www.gamla.org.il/english/feature/lynch2a.htm

Maybe you should post pictures of the Isreali running down Rachel Corie
with a bulldozer or better yet.. The Israeli premeditated slaughter of
the Americans aboard the USS Liberty in International waters off the
coast of Egypt(a Friendly nation).
>
>
>
>
>
>

Zulu

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Mar 31, 2010, 6:08:42 AM3/31/10

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You know well who "Fabricates images" since long time ago, huh
Mirjam?...

Some fakes were used at Nuremberg
An example:

http://www.heretical.com/walendy/p3steps.html

Do Photographs Prove the NS Extermination of the Jews?

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndgcffor.html

Simon Wiesenthal: A specialist of holokostic frauds

Simon Wiesenthal have used such fraud on his site to make photos more
"impressive"
at Auschwitz. The fake smoke story.

"IN 1999 the Simon Wiesenthal Center published on its website a
photograph (below
right) with this caption: "As these prisoners were being processed for
slave labor,
many of their friends and families were being gassed and burned in the
ovens in the
crematoria. The smoke can be seen in the background. June 1944"."

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/fake/SWCsmokeFake.html

NOBODY is accusing Simon Wiesenthal (right) of being mendacious, a
forger, or a
fraudster. Nobody blames him for leasing his name for $50,000 a year
(the last time
the figure was revealed) to the Simon Wiesenthal Center, or that the
SWC sells
concessions to that name around the world. It is a money-making
business like any other.

It is his reputation for integrity and honesty which concerns us here.
In 1946 he
published memoirs, "KZ Mauthausen". In that book he reproduced a
sketch which he
claimed to have made from memory in 1945, of bestial executions
carried out by the
Nazi guards.

Alas, many of his readers had file copies of Life magazine, and his
sketch -- which
he also used on the cover of his book -- jogged memories: memories of
three young
German soldiers, whom their commanders had sent across the lines in
captured US
uniforms on sabotage missions, during the famous Ardennes offensive of
December 1944.
Sentenced to death by a US court martial under the laws of war, they
asked only one
last favour: to hear the Christmas Carol Silent Night sung one last
time, before they
were shot.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/fake/SWC_firing_squad_Fake.html

A lie needs always lies to be sustained.

Concerning children at Gaza, numbers can't be changed. Face the
reality. Jews are acting like monsters there.

Last Gaza's war: 1314 including 412 children [4]

A- Nazi Occupation in France (1940-1945) : Total 5200 victims (shot
and murdered no details concerning children and women) [1]

B- Israeli Occupation (from 1987 to 2010): Total 8699 victims
including 304 of less than 18 y.o, 1153 children and 581 women
(minimum).*

[*] Palestinian victims before 9-12- 1987 are not counted.

Sources

Antifada 1 9-12-1987-28-8-2000 : 1491 including 304 under 18 y.o [2]
Antifada 2 + Gaza, 28.9.2000-27.01.2010 : 7208 including 1153
children and 581 women[3]
with last Gaza's war: 1314 including 412 children [4]

[2] http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/sourcefiles/deathsbtselem1.pdf
[3] http://www.miftah.org/report.cfm
voir aussi pour 2000-2008 http://www.btselem.org/english/statistics/Casualties.asp
[4] ONU. "So the latest figures for casualties are: Palestinian
deaths -- 1,314 of whom 412 were children and a hundred were women,
and then injured 5,300 -- 1,855 of whom were children and 795 were
women."
http://www.unmultimedia.org/radio/english/detail/67863.html

RJ11

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Mar 31, 2010, 6:09:47 AM3/31/10

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In article <9ccf8d27-b99f-46d8...@v20g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>,
Zulu <zu...@volcanomail.com> wrote:

(snip "Holocaust revisionism" drivel)

Deal with the facts, nazi kook.

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//bergen-belsen/images/belsen01.jpg
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//bergen-belsen/images/belsen02.jpg
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//ohrdruf/images/ohrdruf-02.jpg
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//nordhausen/images/nordhausen-01.jpg
http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/dachau-corpses.GIF
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//buchenwald/images/buchenwald01.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1673471.stm

Mass graves found at Nazi camp
Researchers have discovered seven mass graves at the Sobibor Nazi
death camp in north-eastern Poland.

The research team, which began its government-sponsored investigation
in the summer, said the graves -- the largest of which is about half
the size of a football pitch -- contain charred remains.

</quote>

RJ.

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drahcir

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Mar 31, 2010, 12:03:09 PM3/31/10

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Ever hear of photoshop, cretin-bigot?

coaste...@yahoo.com

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Mar 31, 2010, 12:50:30 PM3/31/10

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On Mar 30, 10:37 pm, "tdny" <t...@live.com> wrote:
> "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

A perfect summary, TD. At the end of the day it's nothing but a matter
of simple decency. The moral compass shows the way.

coaste...@yahoo.com

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On Mar 31, 2:53 am, Honest truth <Honest_tr...@Wisdom.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:46:14 -0400, tdny wrote:

> >http://www.ny1.com/6-bronx-news-content/top_stories/116091/top-state-...

>
> Since when does a hate crime require a victim that is a person?

It doesn't. If there is a question here it's about disparity in
punishment.

coaste...@yahoo.com

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Mar 31, 2010, 1:27:24 PM3/31/10

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On Mar 31, 7:48 am, Bolt Upright <Nobo...@home.com> wrote:

I've never been able to understand why people like these are permitted
to represent Jewish causes in public.

coaste...@yahoo.com

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Mar 31, 2010, 1:32:52 PM3/31/10

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On Mar 31, 7:54 am, Bolt Upright <Nobo...@home.com> wrote:

Feel free at any time.

> SCJM *is* a Jewish group, but certainly not so the others.

As is evidenced by the fact that I was blackballed within a week of
arrival.

coaste...@yahoo.com

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On Mar 31, 3:46 am, Jewdas <Jew...@circumcision.com> wrote:
> You have to understand that David along with his Drug, alcohol and
> gambling addictions has a propensities for small boys also. Maybe
> someday David will even get a job and our welfare system won't have to
> feed the Yugowoggie any longer. He is in Kansas because he is in trouble
> in other states. Tends also to make one wonder why you bother posting to
> this AntiAmerican slimebag? I find it laughable that you think he is a
> devout Catholic. Thats about the last place he wants to be.

He is a Catholic. He described that condition quite convincingly right
down to Sunday dinner with Mama after mass.

Without question he is objectively anti-American. It follows from his
toadying for everything Israel does as surely as day follows night.
The question there is whether he actually believes American and
Israeli interests are identical. THAT requires stupidity of a special
order.

coaste...@yahoo.com

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Talking with Jews (or not)

Kevin MacDonald

February 10, 2009

A topic that is not discussed enough is the screaming, in-your-face,
hostile aggression that people must withstand when they dare to
trample on Jewish sensibilities. We are not talking about the
sophisticated rationalizations one sees in the op-ed pages of the
mainstream media, or even the smear techniques of organizations like
the ADL or the SPLC. We are talking about interpersonal aggression.
There is something absolutely primal about it.

Now comes a refreshingly frank blog post by Karin Friedemann, an
ethnically Jewish anti-Zionist. She notes the “violent intolerance”
that defenders of Israel show towards people with different
opinions.

American Jews are actually being trained since childhood to interact
with non-Jews in a deceitful and arrogant manner, in coordination with
each other, to emotionally destroy Gentiles and Israel critics in
addition to wrecking their careers and interfering with their social
relationships. This is actually deliberate, wicked, planned behavior
motivated by a narcissistic self-righteous fury….

The problem is that Gentiles are taught through emotional pressure and
violence via the media and the school system to be very sensitive to
Jewish suffering so when a Zionist becomes outraged at them for
challenging their world view, the Gentile really has to fight against
his own inner self in a huge battle against his "inner Jew" making him
feel inadequate and intimidated. But the Jew doesn’t care how much he
or she hurts others. Jews only care about what's good for the Jews. …

I once reduced a 50 year old man to hysterical sobbing tears because I
told him gently and lovingly that Jews were not that unique. I just
told him the Jews, like everyone else, have had good times and bad
times. Times when they were slaughtered and other times when they
slaughtered others. Just like everyone else. Guess what he did next.
He emotionally abused me in an insulting way and then cut off all
further communication. Jewish behavior is so predictable that it's
truly scary. …

If you mention cutting off the money or if you mention the possible
compromise of living with Palestinians as equals in one state they
become very angry and start using bullying tactics, unless they have
some reason to fear you, in which case they shun you and complain
about you to the authorities, try to get you arrested or try and
destroy your career or social status through character assassination.
…

Zionists all believe in the myth of "1000 years of Jewish suffering"
and feel that the world owes them compensation for their ancestors'
"unique" suffering. It's a criminally insane viewpoint. They cope with
the contradictions between their belief that they are the good guys
and what Jews are actually doing to their neighbors, both in the
Middle East and in the US, by developing mental health issues. Most
Zionists are functional schizophrenics.

My take:

· These tactics are not restricted to critics of Zionism. As one
who has experienced a barrage of hostile email from my faculty
colleagues, I can certainly attest to this. One quickly notices that
assertions of the legitimacy of white identity and interests will also
result in a barrage of hostility. This despite the fact that support
for racial Zionism is strong throughout the entire Jewish political
spectrum (see below). A correspondent sent me the following recently:

I have encountered many liberal, politically correct Jews who react
vociferously (almost violently) to the most innocuous comments about
any topic related to Israel or Jews. One Jew upon my mentioning that
my wife and I had been to Russia spent several minutes virtually
frothing at the mouth about Russians. Another upon hearing me say I
was sympathetic to the problems of the Palestinians demanded to know
who I was and how dare I say such a thing. Often zero tolerance for
any difference in opinion.

· The media constantly present images of Jewish suffering—most
recently the endless glut of Holocaust movies. But the media ignore
instances, such as the early decades of the USSR and now in Greater
Israel, where Jews have inflicted horrible suffering. Right now I am
reading E. Michael Jones’ The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and Its
Effect on History. It is striking to read his account of Jewish
violence against non-Jews in the ancient world, particularly the
persecution of Christians whenever Jews had the power to do so. Long
before Christians had any influence on Roman policy, Christians’
complaints about Jews were not stereotypes based on historical memory
but resulted from direct experience with Jews: “Origen understood that
Jewish calumny helped to cause Christian persecution, and that Jewish
hatred was a fact of life for the Christians, continuing unabated
after the repeated defeats of Messianic politics” (i.e., the defeats
of Jewish rebels at the hands of the Romans in 70 and 135 ad) (p. 69).
This is the basis of my concern on what will happen to whites when
Jews become part of a hostile elite in white-minority America.

· Non-Jews absorb these media images and as a result feel
inadequate and emotionally intimidated. Eventually they identify with
the aggressor, much like a browbeaten hostage or, as Friedemann
suggests, an abused spouse. Or they maintain their friendships but
studiously avoid talking about anything related to Israel. Non-Jews do
the bidding of their “inner Jew” because they have internalized images
of Jewish suffering. They therefore aid and abet Jewish brutality and
aggression.

· Non-Jews who persist in criticizing the organized Jewish
community are threatened with loss of livelihood and social ostracism.
As I noted in a previous article the organized Jewish community does
not believe in free speech. It is important to keep in mind that when
Jews were dominant in the first decades of the Soviet Union, the
government controlled the media, anti-Semitism was outlawed, and there
was mass murder of Christians and the destruction of Christian
churches and religious institutions.

As Friedemann notes, the situation is nothing less than a sign of
serious mental health issues for the mainstream Jewish community:
“Most Zionists are functional schizophrenics.”

I think this is what happens when people who deal with Jewish issues
finally realize that there is no hope for dialogue and begin to think
of what to do next. Honest people finally realize that when it comes
to critical issues like Israel and multicultural America, the
divisions among Jews are an illusion. (Friedemann herself has
renounced her Jewish identity.) As Friedemann’s husband, Joachim
Martillo, notes, “Jews, who want to be decent human beings, have no
choice but to renounce being Jewish and serve the anti-Zionist
struggle (right now).”

Exhibit A for this right now is the murderous Israeli invasion of
Gaza. We know (see, for example, John Mearsheimer’s article in The
American Conservative) that this invasion occurred after a prolonged
period when Israel restricted supplies into Gaza and then attacked
tunnels between Gaza and Egypt. We know that the invasion was designed
to “to inflict massive pain on the Palestinians so that they come to
accept the fact that they are a defeated people and that Israel will
be largely responsible for controlling their future.”

The tone of Mearsheimer’s article suggests a dramatic shift in
attitude where the usual inhibitions on public discourse are finally
beginning to fall, even for a respected academic:

There is … little chance that people around the world who follow the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict will soon forget the appalling punishment
that Israel is meting out in Gaza. … [D]iscourse about this
longstanding conflict has undergone a sea change in the West in recent
years, and many of us who were once wholly sympathetic to Israel now
see that the Israelis are the victimizers and the Palestinians are the
victims.

The gloves are coming off. This is what happens when smart and honest
people who work hard to get the scholarship right are nevertheless
smeared as anti-Semites guilty of the vilest misdeeds. Not
surprisingly, Abe Foxman — a premier defender of the racial Zionist
status quo in Israel — devoted an entire book to smearing Mearsheimer
and Walt. Quite simply, there is no point to talking to such people or
taking seriously what they say about us.

We know that the government of Israel is firmly in the hands of the
racial Zionists — followers of Vladimir Jabotinsky and his view of the
racial distinctiveness and superiority of the Jewish people. Indeed,
the only question in the Israeli election is which brand of racial
Zionism will form the next government. One knows that racial Zionism
has completely won the day in Israel when Kadima — the party of Ariel
Sharon, Ehud Olmert, Tzipi Livni and the Gaza invasion — is now
described by Benjamin Netanyahu as the party of the left. (The LA
Times dutifully calls it “centrist” but, as Israeli peace activist Uri
Avnery writes, Livni “cries to high heaven against any dialogue with
Hamas. She objects to a mutually agreed cease-fire. She tries to
compete with Netanyahu and [Avignor] Liberman with unbridled
nationalist messages.”) Indeed, Netanyahu’s only worry is that the
openly racist Liberman — a disciple of the notorious Meir Kehane —
will take away too many votes from Likud.

The situation is analogous to a US election where Pat Buchanan is the
candidate of the far left. (I can dream.)

Avnery analogizes the election to a joke where a sergeant tells his
men: “I have some good news and some bad news. The good news is that
you are going to change your dirty socks. The bad news is that you are
going to exchange them among yourselves.”

Once again we see at work the general principle that within the Jewish
community, the most extreme elements carry the day and pull the rest
of the Jewish community with them. As I noted in "Zionism and the
Internal Dynamics of Judaism," "over time, the more militant,
expansionist Zionists (the Jabotinskyists, the Likud Party,
fundamentalists, and West Bank settlers) have won the day and have
continued to push for territorial expansion within Israel. This has
led to conflicts with Palestinians and a widespread belief among Jews
that Israel itself is threatened. The result has been a heightened
group consciousness among Jews and ultimately support for Zionist
extremism among the entire organized American Jewish community."

The fanatics keep pushing the envelop, forcing other Jews to either go
along with their agenda or cease being part of the Jewish community.
Ominously, if elected, Netanyahu promises that a top priority will be
"harnessing the U.S. administration to stop the threat" of Iran's
nuclear program.

Incidentally, E. Michael Jones (The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and
Its Effect on History, p. 42ff) has expanded this argument to the
ancient world. He shows how the Jewish community was pulled in the
direction of fanaticism by the Zealots who expelled the followers of
Jesus from the synagogue and adopted a disastrous path of revolution
against Rome, leading ultimately to the defeats of 70 and 135 a.d.

A good example of the schizophrenia described by Friedemann comes from
the fact that around 80% of American Jews voted for Obama but around
the same percentage blames Hamas for the escalation of violence and
believes that the Israeli response was “appropriate.” These results of
the poll on the Gaza invasion were proudly announced by Abraham Foxman
of the ADL, an organization that is one of the principal forces in
promoting a post-European America. The Jewish left is a pillar of
multi-cultural America but strongly supports racial Zionism in
Israel.

This same schizophrenia was on display at a recent presentation at the
Hammer Museum in Los Angeles by Chris Hedges and Mark Potok — he of
the Southern Poverty Law Center. The program dealt with the usual
bogey-men of the organized Jewish community: Christian
fundamentalists, skinheads, David Duke, and (I am gratified to report)
The Occidental Quarterly. In a comment on the alliance between
Christian conservatives and Zionists, an audience member mentioned (to
stifled applause) that “There are Jewish fascists.” But the moderator,
Ian Masters, saved the day when he stated that “the vast majority of
American Jews are secular and liberal” — a comment that brought much
applause, presumably because it reassured the many Jews in the
audience that they weren’t like THOSE Jews. For his part, Potok, that
stalwart warrior against White America, expressed his support for what
he sees as a beleaguered Israel on the verge of apocalypse at the
hands of the Arabs. Schizophrenia indeed.

The politicians who are running Israel are, if anything, more
racialist and nationalist than anything even remotely on the horizon
in American or European politics. As Avnery notes:

In every other country, Liberman’s program would be called fascist,
without quotation marks. Nowhere in the Western world is there a large
party that would dare to advance such a demand [to annul the
citizenship of Arabs]. The neo-fascists in Switzerland and Holland
want to expel foreigners, not to annul the citizenship of the native-
born. …

When Joerg Haider was taken into the Austrian cabinet, Israel recalled
its ambassador from Vienna in protest. But compared to Liberman,
Haider was a raving liberal, and so is Jean-Marie le Pen. Now
Netanyahu has announced that Liberman will be “an important minister”
in his government, Livni has hinted that he will be in her government,
too, and Barak has not excluded that possibility.

The optimistic version says that Liberman will prove to be a passing
curiosity. … There is also a pessimistic version: Fascism has become a
serious player in the Israeli public domain. The three main parties
have now legitimized it. This phenomenon must be stopped before it is
too late.

So I have a suggestion for the Foxmans, the Potoks, the
neoconservatives, and the secular Jewish liberals of the world: If you
want to fight racism and ethnic nationalism, start in your own
backyard. And my suggestion for the rest of us is to get rid of what
Friedemann calls the “inner Jew.” I know it’s hard to do. But once you
tune out the screaming hostility (and assuming you don’t fear losing
your job), it’s easy. Just don’t expect a pleasant or rational
conversation.

Kevin MacDonald is editor of The Occidental Observer and a professor
of psychology at California State University–Long Beach. Email him.

drahcir

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Mar 31, 2010, 5:05:58 PM3/31/10

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On Mar 31, 3:56 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> On Mar 31, 10:02 am, drahcir <justrichardsmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 30, 11:59 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > LOL! The only reason you still show your face here is because you have
> > no shame. Shame is reserved for people with principles - that lets you
> > out.

Well, at least you didn't argue my obvious point about you lacking
principles.

> men: “I have some good news and some ...
>
> read more »

DoD

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Mar 31, 2010, 11:16:01 PM3/31/10

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On Mar 31, 12:53 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> On Mar 31, 3:46 am, Jewdas <Jew...@circumcision.com> wrote:
>
> > You have to understand that David along with his Drug, alcohol and
> > gambling addictions has a propensities for small boys also. Maybe
> > someday David will even get a job and our welfare system won't have to
> > feed the Yugowoggie any longer. He is in Kansas because he is in trouble
> > in other states. Tends also to make one wonder why you bother posting to
> > this AntiAmerican slimebag? I find it laughable that you think he is a
> > devout Catholic. Thats about the last place he wants to be.
>
> He is a Catholic. He described that condition quite convincingly right
> down to Sunday dinner with Mama after mass.

LOL.... is that alzheimers, dementia or another hhw lie?

> Without question he is objectively anti-American.

I am a hell of a lot better American than a bigoted prick like you and
your
cadre of trolls, ya stupid racist old goat.

DoD

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Mar 31, 2010, 11:18:03 PM3/31/10

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On Mar 31, 12:32 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>

That is what is so funny. You are the reason why there are moderated
groups
for Blacks and Jews and various other groups... The funny thing is,
you and
your fellow pricks pride yourselves on it. That is what makes you such
a laughable
loser.

Stewart

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Apr 1, 2010, 1:25:25 AM4/1/10

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"icono...@yahoo.com" <coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You're a class act, Stewie. A real Mensch.

What, you don't like your own crap thrown back in your direction?

Stewart

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Apr 1, 2010, 1:30:57 AM4/1/10

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"Bolt Upright" <Nob...@home.com> wrote in message
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Funny that a nazi scum like you would talk to another's reputation.
And as for "far and wide" across usenet...what is that, exactly? An
audience of about 20 to 30 people, tops? Not very far or wide. What
the fuck is wrong with you?

DoD

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Apr 1, 2010, 1:47:24 AM4/1/10

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On Apr 1, 12:30 am, "Stewart" <gorta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Bolt Upright" <Nobo...@home.com> wrote in message
>

> Funny that a nazi scum like you would talk to another's reputation.

> And as for "far and wide" across usenet...what is that, exactly? An
> audience of about 20 to 30 people, tops?

He is talking about himself and maybe two or three of his antisemitic
troll friends.
Big fuckin deal about that. He is a lying sack of shit also...He
claims that he came up
with a name which he actually stole from the Rev.... The Rev was using
that name
long before that ignorant wop was even around.

> Not very far or wide. What
> the fuck is wrong with you?

Nobody likes him, so he follows everyone around expecting a
conversation...You notice
how he follows everyone around like a troll, but nobody follows him
around? He is a creepy
bastard.

Bolt Upright

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Apr 1, 2010, 9:19:24 AM4/1/10

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On 4/1/2010 1:47 AM, DoD wrote:
> On Apr 1, 12:30 am, "Stewart"<gorta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Bolt Upright"<Nobo...@home.com> wrote in message
>>
>>
>
>> Funny that a nazi scum like you would talk to another's reputation.
>> And as for "far and wide" across usenet...what is that, exactly? An
>> audience of about 20 to 30 people, tops?
>>
> He is talking about himself and maybe two or three of his antisemitic
> troll friends.
> Big fuckin deal about that. He is a lying sack of shit also...He
> claims that he came up
> with a name which he actually stole from the Rev.... The Rev was using
> that name
> long before that ignorant wop was even around.
>
>

*If* that's true, we came to a fairly obvious (and appropriate) nym for
you independently. I'm not above using a name coined by someone else,
but in your case, it wasn't necessary.

A cretinous yugowoggie calling me an "ignorant wop"...now that's a hoot!
"Oh the irony, the irony!". :-D

>> Not very far or wide. What
>> the fuck is wrong with you?
>>
> Nobody likes him, so he follows everyone

:Everyone"? I doan theenk so!

unread,

Tell it like it is.

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Apr 1, 2010, 5:34:11 PM4/1/10

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On Mar 28, 3:07 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mar 25, 2:39 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 24, 9:25 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I've just posted the Israel-US Memorandum of Understanding

Which one? There are several.

Deborah

Readers,
please note Deborah Sharavi's disgraceful method of operation
on behalf of Israel and the Lobby. What I actually wrote about the

Memorandum of Understanding was as follows:

"I've just posted the Israel-US Memorandum of Understanding providing
for these welfare contributions. I've added some observations as to
what I think it means."

Deborah Sharavi
wanted to keep you from reading the Memorandum---and
most importantly the comments on its legal status---for political
reasons, i.e., because she doesn't want you to know that the apparent
gift of $30 Billion in weapons over ten years is NOT BINDING ON THE
UNITED STATES. THE MEMORANDUM, OR ANY PART OF IT, MAY BE TERMINATED
AT
WILL AT ANY TIME.
So she clipped it after the word
"Understanding"
(see about six lines above) in order to be able to
introduce a false impression of ambiguity which she then used to
interject, "Which one? There are several." That was an act of pure
deceit which is characteristic of her here in the role of champion of
the Israeli Lunatic Right and the Israel Lobby.

WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT TO ISRAEL AND THE LOBBY? The American people
generally don't know that the arms grant of $30 Billion over 10 years
is not a binding bi-lateral treaty ratified by the Senate. It is a
mere MOU, a mere declaration of the *present* intention of the U.S.
Accordingly they don't know that It can be cancelled or simply not
complied with at any time at the direction of the President with or
without an explanation.
The most particular reason she doesn't want
you to know this is that currently there is a stand-off between
Netanyahu and President Obama which looks as though it is going to
escalate with America putting more and more pressure on the Israelis
to settle in good faith with the Palestinians. The endless pipeline
of
weapons which flows to Israel constantly year after year, decade
after
decade, can simply stop at any moment. Such is the power in the
relationship held by the President of the United States.

Tell it like it is.

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Apr 1, 2010, 5:42:37 PM4/1/10

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On Mar 28, 3:36 pm, drahcir <justrichardsmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.israel/msg/7603588266296075
>
> You fled from that one.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/c10cee18c6ee1f05
>
> You'll flee from that one.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.israel/msg/70e59d04b030ede3
>
> You fled from that one.
>

It figures unprincipled, lying scum like you and I would be
disgraceful antisemites - goes with the territory.

I'm reading about an ex-rabbi named Drach. He became a
Roman Catholic. He had his mother's blessing.
Disgraceful.

Stewart

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Apr 1, 2010, 10:00:37 PM4/1/10

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"DoD" <danski...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:586e7ab0-ad91-4d24...@z35g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 30, 10:59 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
> <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> On Mar 30, 9:31 pm, DoD <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Mar 30, 8:38 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
>> > <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:

>>
>> > > On Mar 30, 7:33 pm, "Stewart" <gorta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > "Bolt Upright" <Nobo...@home.com> wrote in message
>>

>> > > >news:c915e$4bafd55c$cf701d2a$89...@PRIMUS.CA...

>>
>> > > > > On 3/28/2010 5:56 PM, Stewart wrote:
>> > > > >> "Bolt Upright"<Nobo...@home.com> wrote in message

>> > > > >>news:29949$4bafc6bb$cf701d2a$77...@PRIMUS.CA...
>>
>> > > > >>> On 3/28/2010 4:39 PM, DoD wrote:
>>

>> > > > >>>> On Mar 28, 3:36 pm, drahcir<justrichardsmu...@gmail.com>
>> > > > >>>> wrote:
>>
>> > > > >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.israel/msg/7603588266296075
>>
>> > > > >>>>> You fled from that one.
>>
>> > > > >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/c10cee18c6ee1f05
>>
>> > > > >>>>> You'll flee from that one.
>>
>> > > > >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.israel/msg/70e59d04b030ede3
>>
>> > > > >>>>> You fled from that one.
>>

>> > > > >>>>> It figures that unprincipled, lying scum like you would
>> > > > >>>>> be an

That was quite an understatement.

Stewart

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Apr 1, 2010, 10:01:34 PM4/1/10

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"DoD" <danski...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Typical for his kind.

Stewart

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Apr 1, 2010, 10:03:50 PM4/1/10

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"Bolt Upright" <Nob...@home.com> wrote in message

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I see you prefer to wallow in the muddy waters of mediocrity.

Stewart

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Apr 1, 2010, 10:08:20 PM4/1/10

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"icono...@yahoo.com" <coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Sounds like you need a life.

>

It varies a lot but the
> trend is up. There are now nearly a thousand subscribers to scj on
> Google Groups alone. Were this not the case the efforts here to shut
> down discussion of issues so sensitive to the gentlemen with
> conflicts
> of interest like Abe Foxman wouldn't be worth it. I hope the vast
> bulk
> of them are Jewish and of a much higher intellectual quality than
> you.
> They need to take control of their own lives as individuals and in
> doing so to protect Israel from herself. At the same time they will
> be
> protecting America from Israel's radicals.

Even if all read every post of every thread, the audience is meager,
at best. Since only a loon would actually do so, I'm sure that the
readership of any one particular poster is minimal, at best.

IOW, nobody is listening to you.

Stewart

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Apr 1, 2010, 10:08:56 PM4/1/10

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"icono...@yahoo.com" <coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Let's go there, asshole.

DoD

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Apr 1, 2010, 10:25:56 PM4/1/10

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On Apr 1, 12:06 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> On Mar 31, 9:16 pm, DoD <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > LOL.... is that alzheimers, dementia or another hhw lie?
>
> Were the above true you would have to remember the conversation,
> David. I remember it vividly.

Dementia then? Or it could be a lie, cause you are a known lying sack
of shit.

> > >> Without question he is objectively anti-American.
> >I am a hell of a lot better American than a bigoted prick like you and your cadre of trolls, ya stupid racist old goat.
>
> I say that you are OBJECTIVELY negligent about---and hostile to---the
> best interests of your homeland. "Objectively" means that you are this
> way whether you realize it or not and it is proved by your behavior.
> There are many aspects of reality which obsessives such as you don't
> understand.

Who gives a fuck what a senile old anti-semite thinks? Your opinions
are
worthless, which is why you peddle them here to a group of Jew hating
trolls.

> You knee-jerkedly support the interests of a foreign power over those
> of your mother country. You actually THINK that American and Israeli
> interests must be the same because you THINK you love Israel and
> therefore can't imagine why other Americans criticize her. You adopt
> the pillaging attitude of an objectively hostile foreign power and
> think it is perfectly normal behavior for an American. You confuse
> what you THINK with reality and haven't the intellectual horsepower to
> sort it out at even the most elementary level.

You don't even get that right. You choose the interests, (and they are
really
not their best interests) of a group of murderous bastards that would
slit
your throat and that of most Americans (not that anyone would lose
sleep over
yours). You certainly are a piss poor American and terrorist symp.

> And then you have the disabling problem of being uneducated and
> totally without intellectual curiosity to boot. You haven't the tools
> to sort out your problems. That reduces you to this in every
> encounter:

I would be careful in calling someone else uneducated. You make an
ass of yourself all the time. Just because you say alot of shit,
doesn't
mean that you say shit worth listening to.

> "I am a hell of a lot better American than a bigoted prick like you
> and your cadre of trolls, ya stupid racist old goat."
>
> But then don't forget that your colleague here, Ratner, who has no
> respect for you at all, less than zero respect, is reduced to the same

> thing. That means that you have absolutely nowhere to go.-

Yeah, yeah, you have everyone and everything figured out. Is that
why your career as a lawyer was fucked up? Did you go into trial
and make shit up as you went along? That is all you do here. FFS
you are miserable peice of dogshit.

DoD

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Apr 1, 2010, 10:27:11 PM4/1/10

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On Apr 1, 9:03 pm, "Stewart" <gorta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Bolt Upright" <Nobo...@home.com> wrote in message
>

> I see you prefer to wallow in the muddy waters of mediocrity.

And I still own him. Notice how I make brillo head bark on command?

DoD

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Apr 1, 2010, 10:28:47 PM4/1/10

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On Apr 1, 1:34 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Yeah, I am a handsome young man. Not a worthless 70 something wasting
his
last years peddling anti-semitism on usenet to a couple of trolls and
claiming
readership like you are Time or Newsweek. Did I ever tell you that you
are
a stupid fuck?

DoD

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Apr 1, 2010, 10:37:57 PM4/1/10

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On Apr 1, 1:01 pm, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> On Mar 31, 9:18 pm, DoD <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> American foreign policy is a public issue, indeed, an international,
> global issue, something thinking Americans *must* evaluate and discuss
> objectively if they are to perform their democratic duties and
> participate in the decision-making process. American foreign policy
> must not be hidden away in limited access environments or arrogated
> to special interests. That's the road to hell for a democracy. Matters
> as fundamental as war, peace and national bankruptcy are at stake

You are always so full of dogshit.... Ok... lets buy into the
arguement for a second....
Post your crap to newsgroups that deal with American foreign policy or
even talk
politics.mideast....You instead decided to take your shit on Jewish
culture groups and
now your filthy revisionist newsgroup. Why? Cause these are the
places anti-semites
hangout. Here they can massage your ego. You fool noone. You are a
class A smelly dogshit log.

Stewart

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Apr 1, 2010, 11:15:36 PM4/1/10

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"DoD" <danski...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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What will you have him do next? Roll over and play dead sounds pretty
good.....

Tell it like it is.

Considering you can't seem to stop yourself from responding to him....

DoD

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Apr 3, 2010, 1:02:17 AM4/3/10

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On Apr 2, 11:49 pm, "Stewart" <gorta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Tell it like it is." <DanielAlbertDesfos...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> messagenews:efb5e653-b638-4083...@z3g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...

> You sound like a shmuck. So fucking what.-

Daniel Albert Dewhosits is a schmuck....I think he has issues with
talking to himself.

DoD

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Apr 3, 2010, 1:03:06 AM4/3/10

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On Apr 2, 11:51 pm, "Stewart" <gorta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Bolt Upright" <Nobo...@home.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6654e$4bb60b37$d8fe9dc8$18...@PRIMUS.CA...
>
> > On 4/1/2010 10:27 PM, DoD wrote:
> >> On Apr 1, 9:03 pm, "Stewart"<gorta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> "Bolt Upright"<Nobo...@home.com> wrote in message
>
> >>> I see you prefer to wallow in the muddy waters of mediocrity.
>
> >> And I still own him. Notice how I make brillo head bark on command?
>
> > Ya *think*, cretin?
>
> Considering you can't seem to stop yourself from responding to him....

He has no self control.... I really do own these freaks.

benjie

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Apr 3, 2010, 5:05:33 AM4/3/10

to

You are a hateful little twerp, doodoo. And as thick as pig shit. That
much hasn't changed.

What beats me is why you want to continue sucking up to these yids -
the same yids who destroyed your pension/retirement fund.

Bolt Upright

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Apr 3, 2010, 2:16:01 PM4/3/10

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Cute. IIRC, you used to accuse me of being unable to stop myself from
responding to you...
Yet another tactic that's long past its "best before" date, this one no
longer flies.
Thanks for playing.

Bolt Upright

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Apr 3, 2010, 2:16:55 PM4/3/10

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I doubt if you own the hairs in the palm of your hand.

Stewart

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Apr 3, 2010, 7:09:46 PM4/3/10

to

"Bolt Upright" <Nob...@home.com> wrote in message

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> On 4/3/2010 12:51 AM, Stewart wrote:
>> "Bolt Upright"<Nob...@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:6654e$4bb60b37$d8fe9dc8$18...@PRIMUS.CA...
>>
>>> On 4/1/2010 10:27 PM, DoD wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Apr 1, 9:03 pm, "Stewart"<gorta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Bolt Upright"<Nobo...@home.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I see you prefer to wallow in the muddy waters of mediocrity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> And I still own him. Notice how I make brillo head bark on
>>>> command?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Ya *think*, cretin?
>>>
>> Considering you can't seem to stop yourself from responding to
>> him....
>>
>>
>>
> Cute. IIRC, you used to accuse me of being unable to stop myself
> from responding to you...

You can't......a complete lack of will power.

> Yet another tactic that's long past its "best before" date, this one
> no longer flies.

Why? Because you can't help yourself, and continually respond when you
haves nothing to say? If the gestapo boot fits, wear it.
> Thanks for playing.