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Arindam Banerjee
Nov 26, 2012, 5:21:20 PM11/26/12
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On Nov 25, 11:25 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> There is no Escape!
> By David Duke
>
> There is no escape from the terror of the future.
> You can run away for a while.
> But the terror will catch up to you.
> It will destroy you and everything you love.
>
> No, I am not talking about a new Hollywood horror movie. I am talking
> about America. America is changing from the land of our forefathers to
> a place where we are no longer at home in spirit, and where our
> families are no longer safe in their own homes.
>
> New Orleans has become increasingly like Haiti since the 1960's Civil
> Rights movement integrated the schools. Since then, White civil rights
> have steadily disappeared.
>
> First the schools deteriorated into cesspools of violence, drugs,
> ignorance, barbarity and venereal disease. Blacks always had access to
> public schools, but now, almost all Whites were driven from them. They
> went from a majority, to less than four percent today. Whites were
> driven from the buses and streetcars. In the buses where Blacks once
> rode in the back, now Whites dare not ride at all! To do so is just
> too dangerous. Friendly and tidy White neighborhoods discovered the
> true joys of forced racial integration: junk cars, prostitutes and
> drug dealers on the streets. The only Whites remaining in many
> neighborhoods fearfully live now behind bars in homes that have become
> reverse jails meant to keep the criminals out.
>
> Black political power transformed New Orleans into a corrupt Black
> banana republic. Taxes went up, services went down. The condition of
> the streets wrecks the cars. Housing projects are so strewn with trash
> they look as though they belong in a Third World Country. Rape, murder
> and robbery are daily occurrences in the same city where I could once
> walk anywhere as a child. Of course, traditional American values and
> culture are gone now also. America founding fathers names such as
> George Washington's are removed from schools by the Black school board
> because he is, "an immoral example for the children." Kwanzaa, a Black
> pagan celebration, has replaced Christmas celebrations in schools.
>
> For the last forty years, Whites have steadily fled the city of New
> Orleans. They left thousands of the beautiful and stately homes; many
> of the beautiful, oak-lined boulevards; and the intangible history and
> charm of what was once America's most romantic city. Now its old charm
> can only be found in a few heavily policed areas that the tourists
> visit or where the very richest live. Yet, frequently a tourist will
> veer from the protected areas and find themselves robbed, raped, or
> murdered by denizens that would be more at home in the most primitive
> tribes of Africa.
>
> The White refugees first fled mostly to Jefferson Parish, a White
> redoubt where they could regain the semblance of a normal life. But,
> then, Jefferson began its demographic darkening, so the Whites again
> packed up their belongings once more and moved even further away. Some
> ended up across Lake Ponchartrain, willing to drive three hours a day
> to get to and from work, all so their families would be safe.
>
> Some even pretended that they came to North Shore for the trees. But
> they certainly didn't move to the now Black areas in New Orleans where
> flourish live oaks, some of the most magnificent and beautiful trees
> in the world. Most of the new North Shore residents knew, at least
> somewhere deep inside, why they fled and why they came to the area
> where I now live. I was candid about my choice of Mandeville. I like
> the demographics. I like being among my own kind, living in the kind
> of clean and beautiful environment our people create. In the last
> election for U.S. Congress, I warned my neighbors on the North Shore.
> I told them that conditions of New Orleans would eventually come to
> them unless a great political change happened in America. A week ago,
> a graphic example of what I had warned them about, occurred.
>
> Just a mile from where I live and work, in a subdivision called
> Woodridge, a beautiful 25-year-old mother of four, Samantha Jaume, was
> brutally murdered in her home by a Black intruder who had followed her
> home from a shopping center. He apparently wanted to steal her new
> vehicle. The quick thinking of her seven-year-old son, Jason, almost
> saved his mother and probably prevented the murder of his sisters and
> himself. He hid himself under a desk and called the police.
>
> Samantha lost all of her civil rights including her right to live. Her
> husband's civil rights were also violated, and her four children
> suffered loss of their Civil Rights more than any Black person in the
> 1960's who had to use separate water fountains. This family lost wife
> and mother for the rest of their lives. If you want to know the true
> cost of integration, it is White lives. If Mandeville were truly the
> White area so many seek, Samantha would still be alive. Do we dare to
> discuss the other hundreds of victims who have suffered a similar fate
> over the years on the North Shore? Or the millions of White victims of
> Black crime across America. And, it can only get worse. When the North
> Shore population goes the way of New Orleans, Jefferson, and of the
> new America of the 21st century, the loss of Samantha will be replayed
> so many times that Whites will become refugees once more. But, where
> will they go? Massive non-white immigration, differential birthrates,
> and intermarriage will make our people a rapidly shrinking minority.
> Our racial enemies will not stop their darkening of America until
> there is no refuge for our people, only annihilation.
>
> This is no movie. This is real life. There is no escape from the
> coming terror. It is time we turn around and fight. We must wrest
> control of our political system from those who would obliterate our
> people. It is too late for Mrs. Samantha Jaume, but not too late for
> her children, and for our children if we begin our road back today. My
> life is consecrated to that task. How about yours?
> Visit our website atwww.whitecivilrights.com
>
> http://www.ihr.org/ http://heretical.com/
>
> http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
Looks like karma is working full time here. Revenge at last for those
who were brought in chains and sold for money in New Orleans! But,
this is a very isolated case. Most US is run by white males,
including the Jews who are as white as the rest!
As for fighting back, that is not possible for the cowardly
degenerates, who can only run away or accommodate, never try to
understand for self-improvements. The zero US reaction (including
those of racist whites) to my book "The Son of Hiranyaksh" shows them
up!
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Author of "The Son of Hiranyaksh"
For US readers:
https://www.createspace.com/3861686
For international readers:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/147528599X
For European readers:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.de/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.es/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.fr/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.it/dp/147528599X
> There is no Escape!
> By David Duke
>
> There is no escape from the terror of the future.
> You can run away for a while.
> But the terror will catch up to you.
> It will destroy you and everything you love.
>
> No, I am not talking about a new Hollywood horror movie. I am talking
> about America. America is changing from the land of our forefathers to
> a place where we are no longer at home in spirit, and where our
> families are no longer safe in their own homes.
>
> New Orleans has become increasingly like Haiti since the 1960's Civil
> Rights movement integrated the schools. Since then, White civil rights
> have steadily disappeared.
>
> First the schools deteriorated into cesspools of violence, drugs,
> ignorance, barbarity and venereal disease. Blacks always had access to
> public schools, but now, almost all Whites were driven from them. They
> went from a majority, to less than four percent today. Whites were
> driven from the buses and streetcars. In the buses where Blacks once
> rode in the back, now Whites dare not ride at all! To do so is just
> too dangerous. Friendly and tidy White neighborhoods discovered the
> true joys of forced racial integration: junk cars, prostitutes and
> drug dealers on the streets. The only Whites remaining in many
> neighborhoods fearfully live now behind bars in homes that have become
> reverse jails meant to keep the criminals out.
>
> Black political power transformed New Orleans into a corrupt Black
> banana republic. Taxes went up, services went down. The condition of
> the streets wrecks the cars. Housing projects are so strewn with trash
> they look as though they belong in a Third World Country. Rape, murder
> and robbery are daily occurrences in the same city where I could once
> walk anywhere as a child. Of course, traditional American values and
> culture are gone now also. America founding fathers names such as
> George Washington's are removed from schools by the Black school board
> because he is, "an immoral example for the children." Kwanzaa, a Black
> pagan celebration, has replaced Christmas celebrations in schools.
>
> For the last forty years, Whites have steadily fled the city of New
> Orleans. They left thousands of the beautiful and stately homes; many
> of the beautiful, oak-lined boulevards; and the intangible history and
> charm of what was once America's most romantic city. Now its old charm
> can only be found in a few heavily policed areas that the tourists
> visit or where the very richest live. Yet, frequently a tourist will
> veer from the protected areas and find themselves robbed, raped, or
> murdered by denizens that would be more at home in the most primitive
> tribes of Africa.
>
> The White refugees first fled mostly to Jefferson Parish, a White
> redoubt where they could regain the semblance of a normal life. But,
> then, Jefferson began its demographic darkening, so the Whites again
> packed up their belongings once more and moved even further away. Some
> ended up across Lake Ponchartrain, willing to drive three hours a day
> to get to and from work, all so their families would be safe.
>
> Some even pretended that they came to North Shore for the trees. But
> they certainly didn't move to the now Black areas in New Orleans where
> flourish live oaks, some of the most magnificent and beautiful trees
> in the world. Most of the new North Shore residents knew, at least
> somewhere deep inside, why they fled and why they came to the area
> where I now live. I was candid about my choice of Mandeville. I like
> the demographics. I like being among my own kind, living in the kind
> of clean and beautiful environment our people create. In the last
> election for U.S. Congress, I warned my neighbors on the North Shore.
> I told them that conditions of New Orleans would eventually come to
> them unless a great political change happened in America. A week ago,
> a graphic example of what I had warned them about, occurred.
>
> Just a mile from where I live and work, in a subdivision called
> Woodridge, a beautiful 25-year-old mother of four, Samantha Jaume, was
> brutally murdered in her home by a Black intruder who had followed her
> home from a shopping center. He apparently wanted to steal her new
> vehicle. The quick thinking of her seven-year-old son, Jason, almost
> saved his mother and probably prevented the murder of his sisters and
> himself. He hid himself under a desk and called the police.
>
> Samantha lost all of her civil rights including her right to live. Her
> husband's civil rights were also violated, and her four children
> suffered loss of their Civil Rights more than any Black person in the
> 1960's who had to use separate water fountains. This family lost wife
> and mother for the rest of their lives. If you want to know the true
> cost of integration, it is White lives. If Mandeville were truly the
> White area so many seek, Samantha would still be alive. Do we dare to
> discuss the other hundreds of victims who have suffered a similar fate
> over the years on the North Shore? Or the millions of White victims of
> Black crime across America. And, it can only get worse. When the North
> Shore population goes the way of New Orleans, Jefferson, and of the
> new America of the 21st century, the loss of Samantha will be replayed
> so many times that Whites will become refugees once more. But, where
> will they go? Massive non-white immigration, differential birthrates,
> and intermarriage will make our people a rapidly shrinking minority.
> Our racial enemies will not stop their darkening of America until
> there is no refuge for our people, only annihilation.
>
> This is no movie. This is real life. There is no escape from the
> coming terror. It is time we turn around and fight. We must wrest
> control of our political system from those who would obliterate our
> people. It is too late for Mrs. Samantha Jaume, but not too late for
> her children, and for our children if we begin our road back today. My
> life is consecrated to that task. How about yours?
> Visit our website atwww.whitecivilrights.com
>
> http://www.ihr.org/ http://heretical.com/
>
> http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
Looks like karma is working full time here. Revenge at last for those
who were brought in chains and sold for money in New Orleans! But,
this is a very isolated case. Most US is run by white males,
including the Jews who are as white as the rest!
As for fighting back, that is not possible for the cowardly
degenerates, who can only run away or accommodate, never try to
understand for self-improvements. The zero US reaction (including
those of racist whites) to my book "The Son of Hiranyaksh" shows them
up!
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Author of "The Son of Hiranyaksh"
For US readers:
https://www.createspace.com/3861686
For international readers:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/147528599X
For European readers:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.de/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.es/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.fr/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.it/dp/147528599X
Topaz
Nov 27, 2012, 5:29:49 AM11/27/12
to
Blacks and Jews Newspage
http://www.blacksandjews.com/
The following Jews were known dealers, owners, shippers or supporters
of the slave trade and of the enslavement of Black African citizens
in early New York history.
Issack Asher
Jacob Barsimson
Joseph Bueno
Solomon Myers Cohen
Jacob Fonseca
Aberham Franckfort
Jacob Franks
Daniel Gomez
David Gomez
Isaac Gomez
Lewis Gomez
Mordecai Gomez
Rebekah Gomez
Ephraim Hart
Judah Hays
Harmon Hendricks
Uriah Hendricks
Uriah Hyam
Abraham Isaacs
Joshua Isaacs
Samuel Jacobs
Benjamin S. Judah
Cary Judah
Elizabeth Judah
Arthur Levy
Eleazar Levy
Hayman Levy
Isaac H. Levy
Jacob Levy
Joseph Israel Levy
Joshua Levy
Moses Levy
Uriah Phillips Levy
Isaac R. Marques
Moses Michaels
(E)Manuel Myers
Seixas Nathan
Simon Nathan
Rodrigo Pacheco
David Pardo
Isaac Pinheiro
Rachel Pinto
Morris Jacob Raphall
Abraham Sarzedas
Moses Seixas
Solomon Simpson
Nathan Simson
Simja De Torres
Benjamin Wolf
Alexander Zuntz
Jewish Role in Slavery: Quotes from Jewish historians
Moshe Kahan stated bluntly that in 1653-1658, "Jewish-Marrano
merchants were in control of the Spanish and Portuguese [slave] trade,
were almost in control of the Levantine trade...were interested in the
Dutch East and West Indian companies, were heavily involved in
shipping; and, most important, had at their disposal large amounts of
capital."
Lee M. Friedman, a one-time president of the American Jewish
Historical Society, wrote that in Brazil, where most of the Africans
actually went, "the bulk of the slave trade was in the hands of Jewish
settlers."
Herbert I. Bloom wrote that "the slave trade was one of the most
important Jewish activities here (in Surinam) as elsewhere in the
colonies." He even published a 1707 list of Jewish buyers by name with
the number of Black humans they purchased.
Cecil Roth, writer of 30 books and hundreds of articles on Jewish
history, wrote that the slave revolts in parts of South America "were
largely directed against [Jews] as being the greatest slave-holders of
the region."
Seymour B. Liebman in his New World Jewry, made it clear that "[t]he
ships were not only owned by Jews, but were manned by Jewish crews and
sailed under the command of Jewish captains."
In Brazil, where most black slaves were sent, Jewish scholar Arnold
Wiznitzer is most explicit about Jewish involvement:
"Besides their important position in the sugar industry and in tax
farming, [Jews] dominated the slave trade. From 1636 to 1645 a total
of 23,163 Negro slaves arrived from Africa and were sold for 6,714,423
florins. The West India Company, which monopolized imports of slaves
from Africa, sold slaves at public auctions against cash payment. It
happened that cash was mostly in the hands of Jews. The buyers who
appeared at the auctions were almost always Jews, and because of this
lack of competitors they could buy slaves at low prices. On the other
hand, there also was no competition in the selling of the slaves to
the plantation owners and other buyers, and most of them purchased on
credit payable at the next harvest in sugar. Profits up to 300 percent
of the purchase value were often realized with high interest
rates....If it happened that the date of such an auction fell on a
Jewish holiday the auction had to be postponed. This occurred on
Friday, October 21, 1644."
Arindam Banerjee
Nov 27, 2012, 5:09:10 PM11/27/12
to
Jews immensely. Those slavers should be the equivalent of the rock
stars of our time!
DMJoshi
Nov 28, 2012, 9:11:48 AM11/28/12
to
seller to New York Jews?
Arindam Banerjee
Nov 28, 2012, 5:26:16 PM11/28/12
to
On Nov 29, 8:46 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:49:08 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > A few odd issues and examples do not judge whether one race is
> >superior to the other.
>
> Whites are on average much more intelligent than Blacks.
No. Black intelligence is found in their love for life, their music
and dance, their joy in being just what they are, their ability to
live without so much artifice, their adaptablity to nature, the
balance they have shown with respect to continuous living without
degradation to the environment (now that is very clever indeed!).
> Thank White people for:
>
> - that computer you're typing on
> - the software that drives it
> - recorded music
> - motion pictures
> - tv
> - radio
> - camera
> - telephone
> - light bulb
> - the automobile
> - rocketry
> - satellites
> - spacecraft
> - airplanes
> - skyscrapers
> - metallurgy (most discoveries)
> - materials science (plastics, compounds, & most other synthetics)
> - 95% of medical advancements
> - 95% of life saving pharmaceutical drugs
> - most scientific breakthroughs over the past 1000 years
> - the bulk of mathematics, physics, chemistry, and biology
> - discovery of DNA
> - laser technology and it's myriad of uses
> - harnessing electricity
> - nuclear energy
> - wireless technology
> - air conditioning devices
> - refrigeration
> - modern agricultural techniques
The whites are very good at stealing from non-whites without due
acknowledgment - quite the reverse! For instance, the white Romans
learnt how to build ships, how to fight, how to write, etc. from the
brown Carthagians and as guru-dakhshina wiped them out totally.
> Where would the world be without White people? Stuck in the stone
> age, that's where.
No, we would be much better off, a Egypt/China/India++ taking off
positively from where it was 2500 years ago. We pagan non-whites
would not have to listen to the most ridiculous metaphysics,
einsteinian physics, notions of racism justifying slavery and
genocide, etc. etc.
> So the next time you get in your car, pick up your cell phone, fly a
> plane, etc. thank White people.
Not necessary. The whites never did anything good for non-whites -
anything positive from them is a matter of inevitable induction
resulting from white greed, not any loving conduction.
> jimj
>
> > Every race is made up of individuals. What
> >such individuals want, is that they must not be personally
> >discriminated against because of one's race.
>
> We should have a nation for White people and preserve the White race.
Oh yes. But you whites already have Europe, most of North America and
Asia, Australia... The white race is very well preserved in over half
the world, no problem at all for them! In countries like India, they
are grovelling reverse-racists happy to follow a mediocre white woman
leader. True, China, Japan, Korea, much of Middle East is out of
direct white control but they too are indirectly ruled by the whites.
> >When such individuals are
> >in a powerless or minority position in the larger society.
>
> America is ruled by the Jews and they hate the White race.
Jews are white mostly and they are presently the very crown of the
white race. They are the leaders in every white field, bag all the
prizes, too bad for you Hitler-types feeling left out - you lost the
last world war, don't you know? Jews have done wonders for the whites
recently, using slavery of non-whites as you say among other measures;
for the lot of the whites was not very good in comparison with non-
whites only a few centuries ago. Nietzsche acknowledged their
contribution for Europeans, but he added that they were after all only
second-rate. Still, it is the second-raters who make the most money,
have the most power. First-raters meet the fate of the first-rate
Carthagians!
Cheers,
Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all
time, sole god among lotsa devils, King of the Qs.
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:49:08 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > A few odd issues and examples do not judge whether one race is
> >superior to the other.
>
> Whites are on average much more intelligent than Blacks.
No. Black intelligence is found in their love for life, their music
and dance, their joy in being just what they are, their ability to
live without so much artifice, their adaptablity to nature, the
balance they have shown with respect to continuous living without
degradation to the environment (now that is very clever indeed!).
> Thank White people for:
>
> - that computer you're typing on
> - the software that drives it
> - recorded music
> - motion pictures
> - tv
> - radio
> - camera
> - telephone
> - light bulb
> - the automobile
> - rocketry
> - satellites
> - spacecraft
> - airplanes
> - skyscrapers
> - metallurgy (most discoveries)
> - materials science (plastics, compounds, & most other synthetics)
> - 95% of medical advancements
> - 95% of life saving pharmaceutical drugs
> - most scientific breakthroughs over the past 1000 years
> - the bulk of mathematics, physics, chemistry, and biology
> - discovery of DNA
> - laser technology and it's myriad of uses
> - harnessing electricity
> - nuclear energy
> - wireless technology
> - air conditioning devices
> - refrigeration
> - modern agricultural techniques
The whites are very good at stealing from non-whites without due
acknowledgment - quite the reverse! For instance, the white Romans
learnt how to build ships, how to fight, how to write, etc. from the
brown Carthagians and as guru-dakhshina wiped them out totally.
> Where would the world be without White people? Stuck in the stone
> age, that's where.
No, we would be much better off, a Egypt/China/India++ taking off
positively from where it was 2500 years ago. We pagan non-whites
would not have to listen to the most ridiculous metaphysics,
einsteinian physics, notions of racism justifying slavery and
genocide, etc. etc.
> So the next time you get in your car, pick up your cell phone, fly a
> plane, etc. thank White people.
Not necessary. The whites never did anything good for non-whites -
anything positive from them is a matter of inevitable induction
resulting from white greed, not any loving conduction.
> jimj
>
> > Every race is made up of individuals. What
> >such individuals want, is that they must not be personally
> >discriminated against because of one's race.
>
> We should have a nation for White people and preserve the White race.
Oh yes. But you whites already have Europe, most of North America and
Asia, Australia... The white race is very well preserved in over half
the world, no problem at all for them! In countries like India, they
are grovelling reverse-racists happy to follow a mediocre white woman
leader. True, China, Japan, Korea, much of Middle East is out of
direct white control but they too are indirectly ruled by the whites.
> >When such individuals are
> >in a powerless or minority position in the larger society.
>
> America is ruled by the Jews and they hate the White race.
Jews are white mostly and they are presently the very crown of the
white race. They are the leaders in every white field, bag all the
prizes, too bad for you Hitler-types feeling left out - you lost the
last world war, don't you know? Jews have done wonders for the whites
recently, using slavery of non-whites as you say among other measures;
for the lot of the whites was not very good in comparison with non-
whites only a few centuries ago. Nietzsche acknowledged their
contribution for Europeans, but he added that they were after all only
second-rate. Still, it is the second-raters who make the most money,
have the most power. First-raters meet the fate of the first-rate
Carthagians!
Cheers,
Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all
time, sole god among lotsa devils, King of the Qs.
Author of "The Son of Hiranyaksh"
For US readers:
https://www.createspace.com/3861686
For international readers:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/147528599X
For European readers:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.de/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.es/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.fr/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.it/dp/147528599X
>
For US readers:
https://www.createspace.com/3861686
For international readers:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/147528599X
For European readers:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.de/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.es/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.fr/dp/147528599X
http://www.amazon.it/dp/147528599X
>
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Nov 28, 2012, 9:42:34 PM11/28/12
to
In article
<347bad3b-9545-4214...@g7g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
> > Where would the world be =A0without White people?
> > =A0Stuck in the stone age, that's where.
> >
> > http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
<347bad3b-9545-4214...@g7g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
> > =A0Stuck in the stone age, that's where.
>
> No, we would be much better off, a Egypt/China/India++
> taking off positively from where it was 2500 years ago.
> We pagan non-whites would not have to listen to the most
> ridiculous metaphysics, einsteinian physics, notions of
> racism justifying slavery and genocide, etc. etc.
>
> > So the next time you get in your car, pick up your cell
> > phone, fly a plane, etc. thank White people.
>
> Not necessary. The whites never did anything good for
> non-whites -anything positive from them is a matter of
> No, we would be much better off, a Egypt/China/India++
> taking off positively from where it was 2500 years ago.
> We pagan non-whites would not have to listen to the most
> ridiculous metaphysics, einsteinian physics, notions of
> racism justifying slavery and genocide, etc. etc.
>
> > So the next time you get in your car, pick up your cell
> > phone, fly a plane, etc. thank White people.
>
> Not necessary. The whites never did anything good for
> inevitable induction resulting from white greed, not any
> loving conduction.
>
> > jimj
> >
> > > Every race is made up of individuals. =A0What such
> loving conduction.
>
> > jimj
> >
> > > individuals want, is that they must not be personally
> > > discriminated against because of one's race.
> >
> > We should have a nation for White people and preserve the
> > White race.
>
> Oh yes. But you whites already have Europe, most of
> North America and Asia, Australia... The white race is
> very well preserved in over half the world, no problem at
> all for them! In countries like India, they are
> grovelling reverse-racists happy to follow a mediocre
> white woman leader. True, China, Japan, Korea, much of
> Middle East is out of direct white control but they too
> are indirectly ruled by the whites.
>
> > When such individuals are in =A0a powerless or minority
> > > discriminated against because of one's race.
> >
> > We should have a nation for White people and preserve the
> > White race.
>
> Oh yes. But you whites already have Europe, most of
> North America and Asia, Australia... The white race is
> very well preserved in over half the world, no problem at
> all for them! In countries like India, they are
> grovelling reverse-racists happy to follow a mediocre
> white woman leader. True, China, Japan, Korea, much of
> Middle East is out of direct white control but they too
> are indirectly ruled by the whites.
>
> > position in the larger society.
> >
> > America is ruled by the Jews and they hate the White race.
> >
> > http://www.ihr.org/=A0 =A0http://heretical.com/
> >
> > America is ruled by the Jews and they hate the White race.
> >
> >
> > http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
>
> Jews are white mostly and they are presently the very
> crown of the white race. They are the leaders in every
> white field, bag all the prizes, too bad for you Hitler-
> types feeling left out - you lost the last world war,
> don't you know? Jews have done wonders for the whites
> recently, using slavery of non-whites as you say among
> other measures; for the lot of the whites was not very
> good in comparison with non-whites only a few centuries
> Jews are white mostly and they are presently the very
> crown of the white race. They are the leaders in every
> white field, bag all the prizes, too bad for you Hitler-
> types feeling left out - you lost the last world war,
> don't you know? Jews have done wonders for the whites
> recently, using slavery of non-whites as you say among
> other measures; for the lot of the whites was not very
> ago. Nietzsche acknowledged their contribution for
> Europeans, but he added that they were after all only
> second-rate. Still, it is the second-raters who make the
> most money, have the most power. First-raters meet the
> fate of the first-rate Carthagians!
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest
> genius of all time, sole god among lotsa devils, King of
> the Qs.
> Author of "The Son of Hiranyaksh"
> For US readers:
> https://www.createspace.com/3861686
>
> For international readers:
> http://www.amazon.com/dp/147528599X
>
> For European readers:
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/147528599X
> http://www.amazon.de/dp/147528599X
> http://www.amazon.es/dp/147528599X
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Whites looted Bharat and stole our treasures.
> Europeans, but he added that they were after all only
> second-rate. Still, it is the second-raters who make the
> most money, have the most power. First-raters meet the
> fate of the first-rate Carthagians!
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest
> genius of all time, sole god among lotsa devils, King of
> the Qs.
> Author of "The Son of Hiranyaksh"
> For US readers:
> https://www.createspace.com/3861686
>
> For international readers:
> http://www.amazon.com/dp/147528599X
>
> For European readers:
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/147528599X
> http://www.amazon.de/dp/147528599X
> http://www.amazon.es/dp/147528599X
> http://www.amazon.fr/dp/147528599X
> http://www.amazon.it/dp/147528599X
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
Topaz
Nov 29, 2012, 4:18:34 PM11/29/12
to
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:26:16 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>No. Black intelligence is found in their love for life, their music
>and dance, their joy in being just what they are, their ability to
>live without so much artifice, their adaptablity to nature, the
>balance they have shown with respect to continuous living without
>degradation to the environment (now that is very clever indeed!).
For one thing the noble savage story is a complete myth. For another
<banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>No. Black intelligence is found in their love for life, their music
>and dance, their joy in being just what they are, their ability to
>live without so much artifice, their adaptablity to nature, the
>balance they have shown with respect to continuous living without
>degradation to the environment (now that is very clever indeed!).
thing Whites are on average much more intelligent than Blacks. And
your comment a misuse of the English language.
>The whites are very good at stealing from non-whites without due
>acknowledgment - quite the reverse! For instance, the white Romans
>learnt how to build ships, how to fight, how to write, etc. from the
>brown Carthagians and as guru-dakhshina wiped them out totally.
>No, we would be much better off, a Egypt/China/India++ taking off
>positively from where it was 2500 years ago. We pagan non-whites
>would not have to listen to the most ridiculous metaphysics,
>einsteinian physics, notions of racism justifying slavery and
>genocide, etc. etc.
the builder of the great pyramid, is shown in the colored bas reliefs
of her tomb to have been a distinct blonde. Her hair is painted a
bright yellow stippled with little red horizontal lines, and her skin
is white."
Coon, Carleton Stevens. The Races of Europe. New York City, Macmillan.
1939, p.98
The tomb of the wife of Zoser, the builder of the first pyramid in
Egypt, has a painting of her showing her with reddish-blond hair.
Heyerdahl, Thor, The Ra Expeditions, Garden City, Doubleday, 1971,
p.249
The mummy of Rameses II has yellow hair.
Egypt: Land of the Pharaohs, Time-Life books, Alexandria, VA 1992 p.8
"A funerary mask with the attributes of the goddess Isis shows a
vivid blue-green color of eyes.
A General Introduction to the Egyptian Collections in the the British
Museam. London, Harrison and Sons, 1930, p.49
The mummy of the wife of King Tutankhamen has auburn hair.
Carter, Michael, Tutankhamun, The Golden Monarch, N.Y. 1972 p.68
Red-haired mummies were found in the crocodile-caverns of Aboufaida.
Tomkins, Henry George, Remarks on Mr. Flinders Petries Collection of
Ethnographic Types from the Monuments of Egypt, Journal of the
Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland Vol. XVIIII,
1889, p.216
The mummy of Rameses II has fine silky yellow hair.
Smith, G. Elliot and Dawson, Warren R. Egyptian Mummies, London,
George Allen and Unwin Ltd., 1924 p.99
A blond mummy was found at Kawamil along with many chestnut-colored
ones.
De Lapouge, G. Vacher, L'Aryen, Sa Vie Sociale. Paris, Pichat, 1899,
p.26
Amenhotep III's tomb painting shows him as having light red
hair.
National Geographic Society, Ancient Egypt, Discovering its
Splendors,1978 p.103
An Egyptian scribe named Sakkarah around 2500 B.C. has blue eyes.
Strouhal, Eugen, Life of the Ancient Egyptians, Norman, Oklahoma,
University of Oklahoma Press, 1992, p.53
A common good luck charm was the eye of Horus, the so-called
Wedjat Eye. The eye is always blue, and the word "wedjat" means "blue"
in Egyptian.
Queen Thi is painted as having a rosy complexion, blue eyes and
blond hair.
Hamy, E.T., "Races Humaines de la Vallee du Nil" Bulletin de la
Societe d'Anthropologie de Paris, 1886, p.739
Paintings from the Third Dynasty show native Egyptians with red
hair and blue eyes.
Pijoan, Jose, Historia del Arte Vol III, Madrid, Espasa-Calpe, 1932,
plate XI
The god Nuit was painted as white and blond.
Champollion, H., Le Nil et la Societe Egyptienne, Marseille, Musee
Boreby, 1973 p.94
A painting from Iteti's tomb at Saqqara shows a very Nordic-looking
man with blond hair.
Westendorf, Wolfhart, Painting, Sculpture and Architecture of Ancient
Egypt. New York, Harry N. Abrams, Inc. 1968 p.65
Time-Life books recently put out a volume called Rameses II The
Great. It has a good picture of the blond mummy of Rameses II. Another
picture can be found in the book X-Raying the Pharaohs, especially the
picture on the jacket cover. It shows his yellow hair.
A book called Chronicle of the Pharaohs was recently published
showing paintings,scuptures and mummies of 189 pharaohs and leading
personalities of Ancient Egypt. Of these, 102 appear European, 13 look
black and the rest are hard to classify. All nine mummies look
European.
The very first pharaoh, Narmer, also known as Menes, looks very
European, The same can be said for Khufu's cousin Hemon, who designed
the Great Pyramid of Giza. A computer-generated reconstruction of the
face of the Sphinx shows a European-looking face.
Egypt: Land of the Pharaohs, Time-Life books Alexandria, VA 1992 p.67
It was once painted sunburned red.
Silverberg, Robert, Before the Sphinx; Early Egypt N.Y., N.Y., T.
Nelson 1971 p.168
The Egyptians often painted upper class men as red and upper
class women as white; this because the men became sunburned or tanned
while outside under the burning Egyptian sun.
The information above is part of the information compiled by
Phillip Bonner and was printed in The Barnes Review, 130 Third Street,
SE, Washington, D.C. 20003
>Not necessary. The whites never did anything good for non-whites -
>anything positive from them is a matter of inevitable induction
>resulting from white greed, not any loving conduction.
A White Man's Apologies.
Along with the other South African Whites who are apologizing for
Apartheid, we Whites who are not part of that liberal select group
would like to apologize to the Black people for the following heinous
crimes:
We apologize for bringing clothing to a land where the Black people
were naked or only had animal skin loincloths to cover themselves
before our arrival;
We apologize for bringing doctors and free medical care, as a result
of which the Black people have been able to survive plagues and
catastrophes and grow in numbers;
We apologize for teaching Black people to read and write;
We apologize for providing the money to build schools and universities
for the Black people, always rebuilding them when they were burned
down or vandalized;
We apologize for bringing vehicles and roads to a land, which did not
have the wheel, before we arrived here 350 years ago;
We apologize for building dams which stored water for times of
drought, and we apologize for bringing running water systems to the
houses we built;
We also apologize for bringing electricity to this country;
We apologize for building factories, highways, and buildings that gave
Black people employment and money;
We apologize for developing commercial farms which to this day feed
the bulk of Africa, the like of which the Black people never had
before;
We apologize for taking minerals from the earth, which the Black
people neither used, nor wanted, nor even knew were there;
We apologize for those among us who have established welfare
organizations and have devoted their entire lives towards making life
richer and better for the Black people;
We apologize for paying the lion's share of taxation while spending
less on ourselves than on the Black people;
For all these sins we humbly beg forgiveness, and if they will only
accept our apology we will be happy to take back all of the above evil
and horrible things we have done to you and return to Europe.
F Rundle
>Oh yes. But you whites already have Europe, most of North America and
>Asia, Australia...
main goal of these governments is to destroy the White race.
>The white race is very well preserved in over half
>the world, no problem at all for them! In countries like India, they
>are grovelling reverse-racists happy to follow a mediocre white woman
>leader. True, China, Japan, Korea, much of Middle East is out of
>direct white control but they too are indirectly ruled by the whites.
>Jews are white mostly and they are presently the very crown of the
>white race. They are the leaders in every white field,
becomes a Christian or an atheist he still says he is a Jew. Most of
the Jews in the Jew country are atheist. They say that a Jew is anyone
that has a Jewish mother. Therefore it is a hereditary thing.
We are for having a nation of White people. Jews would be White enough
to join us if it weren't for other important factors. One factor is
that they don't want our race to live. They want to be the only
Caucasians to survive on the earth.
The Jews have their own Jew country, but they demand multi-culture and
pluralism for us. Their leaders agree with something Hitler wrote:
"A State which, in an epoch of racial adulteration, devotes itself to
the duty of preserving the best elements of its racial stock must one
day become ruler of the Earth."
Jews are enemies of White civilization. Here are some quotes
from a very pro-Jewish book that was first published in 1925. The book
is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis Browne.
"But save for such exceptions, the Jews who led or participated
in the heroic efforts to remold the world of the last century, were
neither Reform or Orthodox. Indeed, they were often not professing
Jews at all.
"For instance, there was Heinrich Heine and Ludwig Borne, both
unfaltering champions of freedom. And even more conspicuously, there
was Karl Marx, one of the great prophetic geniuses of modern times.
"Jewish historians rarely mention the name of this man, Karl
Marx, though in his life and spirit he was far truer to the mission of
Israel than most of those who were forever talking of it. He was born
in Germany in 1818, and belonged to an old rabbinic family. He was not
himself reared as a Jew, however, but while still a child was baptized
a Christian by his father. Yet the rebel soul of the Jew flamed in him
throughout his days, for he was always a 'troubler' in Europe."
"Then, of course, there are Ludwig Borne and Heinrich Heine, two
men who by their merciless wit and sarcasm became leaders among the
revolutionary writers. Karl Marx, Ferdinand Lassalle, Johann Jacoby,
Gabriel Riesser, Adolphe Cremieux, Signora Nathan- all these of Jewish
lineage played important roles in the struggle that went throughout
Europe in this period. Wherever the war for human liberty was being
waged, whether in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, or Italy, there
the Jew was to be found. It was little wonder that the enemies of
social progress, the monarchists and the Churchmen, came to speak of
the whole liberal movement as nothing but a Jewish plot."
"The Jews had become the money lenders of Europe for quite
evident reasons. The Church sternly forbade all Christians to engage
in the pursuit...
"So the Jews became the money lenders of Europe. They developed
a great shrewdness and cunning in the one and only field of
opportunity left open to them. And with their shrewdness and cunning
they developed a certain cruelty and greed. That was natural. The
world was cruel to them, so when the chance was theirs, they were
cruel in return..."
Who Is a Jew? DNA Can Hold the Key
The Telegraph (Britain)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/7346496/View-from-the-Lab-Who-is-a-Jew-DNA-can-hold-the-key.html
.. .. Even 20 years later the thought of a genetic test for Jewish
descent would have been treated with horror. Now, one has emerged and
is not despised but hailed by many Jews themselves. A scan of half a
million variable sites across the genomes of several hundred Europeans
and Americans, each aware from their family history of having had a
recent Jewish or a non-Jewish ancestry, gave an absolute separation
between Jews and others: even a single Jewish grandparent was enough
to provide an unambiguous identity, written in DNA.
> bag all the
>prizes, too bad for you Hitler-types feeling left out - you lost the
>last world war, don't you know? Jews have done wonders for the whites
>recently, using slavery of non-whites as you say among other measures;
Southerners that if they knew all this was going to happen, they would
have picked their own damn cotton.
>for the lot of the whites was not very good in comparison with non-
>whites only a few centuries ago. Nietzsche acknowledged their
>contribution for Europeans, but he added that they were after all only
>second-rate. Still, it is the second-raters who make the most money,
>have the most power. First-raters meet the fate of the first-rate
>Carthagians!
>
Arindam Banerjee
Nov 29, 2012, 5:14:49 PM11/29/12
to
On Nov 30, 8:18 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:26:16 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:26:16 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >No. Black intelligence is found in their love for life, their music
> >and dance, their joy in being just what they are, their ability to
> >live without so much artifice, their adaptablity to nature, the
> >balance they have shown with respect to continuous living without
> >degradation to the environment (now that is very clever indeed!).
>
> For one thing the noble savage story is a complete myth. For another
> thing Whites are on average much more intelligent than Blacks. And
> your comment a misuse of the English language.
>
> >The whites are very good at stealing from non-whites without due
> >acknowledgment - quite the reverse! For instance, the white Romans
> >learnt how to build ships, how to fight, how to write, etc. from the
> >brown Carthagians and as guru-dakhshina wiped them out totally.
>
> bs
>
Interesting response, from a representative of the superior race!
> >No. Black intelligence is found in their love for life, their music
> >and dance, their joy in being just what they are, their ability to
> >live without so much artifice, their adaptablity to nature, the
> >balance they have shown with respect to continuous living without
> >degradation to the environment (now that is very clever indeed!).
>
> For one thing the noble savage story is a complete myth. For another
> thing Whites are on average much more intelligent than Blacks. And
> your comment a misuse of the English language.
>
> >The whites are very good at stealing from non-whites without due
> >acknowledgment - quite the reverse! For instance, the white Romans
> >learnt how to build ships, how to fight, how to write, etc. from the
> >brown Carthagians and as guru-dakhshina wiped them out totally.
>
> bs
>
> >No, we would be much better off, a Egypt/China/India++ taking off
> >positively from where it was 2500 years ago. We pagan non-whites
> >would not have to listen to the most ridiculous metaphysics,
> >einsteinian physics, notions of racism justifying slavery and
> >genocide, etc. etc.
>
> "Queen Hetop-Heres II, of the Fourth Dynasty, the daughter of Cheops,
> the builder of the great pyramid, is shown in the colored bas reliefs
> of her tomb to have been a distinct blonde. Her hair is painted a
> bright yellow stippled with little red horizontal lines, and her skin
> is white."
Middle Easterners and Carthagians. That is to say, they were not
like the Egyptians and Indians have their top authority figures (Gods
and Goddesses) in various colours, various sizes, and even in human
and non-human forms. In short, the elites of past civilised nations
never had the slightest use for the 19th notions eurocentric notions
of white male supremacy.
whites never asked whites to come to their lands to rob and demean
them, and push their goods material and non-material upon them.
> >Oh yes. But you whites already have Europe, most of North America and
> >Asia, Australia...
>
> We had most of that at one time. But we lost World War Two. Now the
> main goal of these governments is to destroy the White race.
the elites of the non-white races beautifully, or marginalised them
with bombs or whatever.
> >The white race is very well preserved in over half
> >the world, no problem at all for them! In countries like India, they
> >are grovelling reverse-racists happy to follow a mediocre white woman
> >leader. True, China, Japan, Korea, much of Middle East is out of
> >direct white control but they too are indirectly ruled by the whites.
>
> Whites are ruled by Jews who hate the White race.
consider them the Chosen People, follow some version of their
worldview, derive their culture accordingly, and out of love for them
won the last world war for them, happily suffering and inflicting
terrific violence and casualties. Jews have done wonders for the white
race that esteems them so highly, by raising the whites to such a
terrific position of total domination in the world. Why should Jews
hate the White race, when the White race gives them so much?
>
> >Jews are white mostly and they are presently the very crown of the
> >white race. They are the leaders in every white field,
>
> Jews are an ethnic group. They are not just a religion. If a Jew
> becomes a Christian or an atheist he still says he is a Jew. Most of
> the Jews in the Jew country are atheist. They say that a Jew is anyone
> that has a Jewish mother. Therefore it is a hereditary thing.
That may be. So long as the other top whites who are but wannabe-Jews
> >Jews are white mostly and they are presently the very crown of the
> >white race. They are the leaders in every white field,
>
> Jews are an ethnic group. They are not just a religion. If a Jew
> becomes a Christian or an atheist he still says he is a Jew. Most of
> the Jews in the Jew country are atheist. They say that a Jew is anyone
> that has a Jewish mother. Therefore it is a hereditary thing.
wishing to enter the heaven containing the Jewish God consider them
their bosses and Chosen People, etc. they will retain their
ascendancy. Such seems to be the will of their one true God! On the
other hand, if we hold that the universe runs on morality, non-
exclusiveness, and balance, then in due course more Hitlers will rise
to power to depose the Jews from the cosy positions they do not
deserve to possess.
the Chosen People implicitly confers such a responsibility.
Well, Hitler lost and the Jews won. Hitler lost as he did not get
enough support from the Eastern Europeans he liberated from Stalin.
However, they found after their initial elation that Nazism with its
racism was worse than Stalinism, so they changed their allegiance.
> Who Is a Jew? DNA Can Hold the Key
>
> .. .. Even 20 years later the thought of a genetic test for Jewish
> descent would have been treated with horror. Now, one has emerged and
> is not despised but hailed by many Jews themselves. A scan of half a
> million variable sites across the genomes of several hundred Europeans
> and Americans, each aware from their family history of having had a
> recent Jewish or a non-Jewish ancestry, gave an absolute separation
> between Jews and others: even a single Jewish grandparent was enough
> to provide an unambiguous identity, written in DNA.
As far as non-whites such as I go, Jews are the leaders of the English-
> .. .. Even 20 years later the thought of a genetic test for Jewish
> descent would have been treated with horror. Now, one has emerged and
> is not despised but hailed by many Jews themselves. A scan of half a
> million variable sites across the genomes of several hundred Europeans
> and Americans, each aware from their family history of having had a
> recent Jewish or a non-Jewish ancestry, gave an absolute separation
> between Jews and others: even a single Jewish grandparent was enough
> to provide an unambiguous identity, written in DNA.
speaking whites who have total domination these days. So, Jews have
to be treated with due respect, if one is wise. I must add, that I am
not wise at all, that way. The Jews of Usenet hate me thoroughly, for
good reason. I have said long and loud that Einstein was a huge
bungler, that e=mcc is nonsense, and they don't like it one little
bit, for Einstein is their human god and the Jews with their power in
media and academia they have made him the human god for all mankind,
you Nazis included. Still, they have not harmed me, only seen to it
that I do not get employment to make enough money to prove my theories
with experiment. Which is very nice of them; I think you Nazis would
have treated me a lot worse if I spoke up against your god Hitler when
he was in power.
If the ancient Egyptians were white as they had blonde hair and blue
eyes, then the Jews are also white going by such physical
characteristics. They are not a race, but a caste as they inter-
married among themselves, plus their women would attract top males
from outside their caste. Hitler the bungler confused between race
and caste.
>
> > bag all the
> >prizes, too bad for you Hitler-types feeling left out - you lost the
> >last world war, don't you know? Jews have done wonders for the whites
> >recently, using slavery of non-whites as you say among other measures;
>
> That didn't do the White race any good. There was a saying among
> Southerners that if they knew all this was going to happen, they would
> have picked their own damn cotton.
Of course slavery did the racist whites a lot of good. The African
> > bag all the
> >prizes, too bad for you Hitler-types feeling left out - you lost the
> >last world war, don't you know? Jews have done wonders for the whites
> >recently, using slavery of non-whites as you say among other measures;
>
> That didn't do the White race any good. There was a saying among
> Southerners that if they knew all this was going to happen, they would
> have picked their own damn cotton.
slave was used as a beast to do all the hard labour, so that the
Ashley Wilkes etc. could lead cosy frenchified lives. USA could never
have attained its present dominance without that initial back-breaking
labour done with slavery. When the North industrialised, slavery
became uneconomical and it should have died a natural death. However,
racist arrogance prevailed, and so there had to be a Civil War the
effects of which are very much present to this day.
Cheers,
Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, King of the Qs
Arindam Banerjee
Nov 29, 2012, 5:37:46 PM11/29/12
to
On Nov 30, 8:18 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:26:16 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
>
> <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >No. Black intelligence is found in their love for life, their music
> >and dance, their joy in being just what they are, their ability to
> >live without so much artifice, their adaptablity to nature, the
> >balance they have shown with respect to continuous living without
> >degradation to the environment (now that is very clever indeed!).
>
> For one thing the noble savage story is a complete myth.
But it was started by a white. Obviously racist whites will have
> >No. Black intelligence is found in their love for life, their music
> >and dance, their joy in being just what they are, their ability to
> >live without so much artifice, their adaptablity to nature, the
> >balance they have shown with respect to continuous living without
> >degradation to the environment (now that is very clever indeed!).
>
> For one thing the noble savage story is a complete myth.
closed minds. Some savages are noble, some civilised men are noble;
some whites are noble, some non-whites are noble. The theistic sort
will pray to belong to the right noble company regardless of skin
pigmentation. Those with more, have more scope for nobility. Those
with less, have less. Circumstances matter, for nobility; skin colour
does not.
For another
> thing Whites are on average much more intelligent than Blacks.
themselves, why not. If intelligence means what it takes to lead a
constantly happy and melodious life, without apprehending a pineapple
permanently stuck up in the nether regions, then blacks are hands-down
winners.
And
> your comment a misuse of the English language.
use for the English language! If only to annoy both Nazis and Jews,
impartially.
Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all
time, sole god among lotsa devils, King of the Qs.
Author of "The Son of Hiranyaksh"
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Topaz
Nov 30, 2012, 5:33:37 PM11/30/12
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<adda...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> bs
>>
>Interesting response, from a representative of the superior race!
>
<adda...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> bs
>>
>Interesting response, from a representative of the superior race!
>
>Most Egyptians including their rulers were brown, like most Indians,
>Middle Easterners and Carthagians. That is to say, they were not
>white.
"Queen Hetop-Heres II, of the Fourth Dynasty, the daughter of Cheops,
the builder of the great pyramid, is shown in the colored bas reliefs
of her tomb to have been a distinct blonde. Her hair is painted a
bright yellow stippled with little red horizontal lines, and her skin
is white."
Coon, Carleton Stevens. The Races of Europe. New York City, Macmillan.
1939, p.98
The tomb of the wife of Zoser, the builder of the first pyramid in
Egypt, has a painting of her showing her with reddish-blond hair.
Heyerdahl, Thor, The Ra Expeditions, Garden City, Doubleday, 1971,
p.249
The mummy of Rameses II has yellow hair.
Egypt: Land of the Pharaohs, Time-Life books, Alexandria, VA 1992 p.8
"A funerary mask with the attributes of the goddess Isis shows a
vivid blue-green color of eyes.
A General Introduction to the Egyptian Collections in the British
>Middle Easterners and Carthagians. That is to say, they were not
>white.
"Queen Hetop-Heres II, of the Fourth Dynasty, the daughter of Cheops,
the builder of the great pyramid, is shown in the colored bas reliefs
of her tomb to have been a distinct blonde. Her hair is painted a
bright yellow stippled with little red horizontal lines, and her skin
is white."
Coon, Carleton Stevens. The Races of Europe. New York City, Macmillan.
1939, p.98
The tomb of the wife of Zoser, the builder of the first pyramid in
Egypt, has a painting of her showing her with reddish-blond hair.
Heyerdahl, Thor, The Ra Expeditions, Garden City, Doubleday, 1971,
p.249
The mummy of Rameses II has yellow hair.
Egypt: Land of the Pharaohs, Time-Life books, Alexandria, VA 1992 p.8
"A funerary mask with the attributes of the goddess Isis shows a
vivid blue-green color of eyes.
Museum. London, Harrison and Sons, 1930, p.49
was an attempt to preserve the White race. It didn't work.
>Go tell Mr Rundle that no one cares for his fake apologies. Non-
>whites never asked whites to come to their lands to rob and demean
>them, and push their goods material and non-material upon them.
former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
countries are the third world. Leftist blame all the problems in the
world on the Whites. The real reason Black countries are the third
world is that Blacks are on average much less intelligent than Whites
as all IQ tests have proven.
In the past White people built colonies in Africa and brought
civilization there. The Blacks were much better off with schools and
hospitals and a lot of food. They were exporting food. But the
liberals didn't like White people being in charge so they put a stop
to the colonies. And they brought the starvation and misery back to
Africa.
The liberal plan of just giving food to the Blacks also causes more
suffering. It always causes them to greatly increase their population
and then there are a lot more people starving and needing even more
food.
Since the Liberals didn't like the colonies because Whites were
running them, I propose that American Blacks be sent there. Many
American Blacks are not very dark and have a lot of White blood in
them and they are more intelligent than the African Blacks. They could
teach the Africans how to farm and educate them in many other ways.
With the proper leadership the starvation in Africa could be stopped.
>Hardly. The White race is more dominant than ever, having corrupted
>the elites of the non-white races beautifully, or marginalised them
>with bombs or whatever.
fast.
>Jews are the mostest whitest people around, actually. The top whites
>consider them the Chosen People, follow some version of their
>worldview, derive their culture accordingly, and out of love for them
>won the last world war for them, happily suffering and inflicting
>terrific violence and casualties. Jews have done wonders for the white
>race that esteems them so highly, by raising the whites to such a
>terrific position of total domination in the world. Why should Jews
>hate the White race, when the White race gives them so much?
White citizens if it were not for the fact that movement was created
and steered by Jews, not by Blacks. Indeed, the NAACP was founded by
and run for many years by Jews, such as the Spingarn brothers. Other
key Jews in the NAACP included Henry Moskowitz, Lillian Wald, Jack
Greenberg and Kivie Kaplan.
The ground breaking Brown v. Board of Education court ruling in 1954
resulted almost entirely from the work of Jewish lawyers connected
with the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, for example Jack Greenberg. Indeed,
the legal brief for the Brown case was signed almost exclusively by
Jews. Jewish activist Esther Swirk Brown was also a prime player in
the Brown case. In fact, Swirk Brown actually launched the Brown case
herself [3].
Furthermore, the constitutionally questionable U.S. Civil Rights Act
of 1964 came from a Jew, i.e., Congressman Celler's House bill H.R.
7152. That act created, among other things, affirmative action. It
ended the practice of business owners deciding for themselves whom to
hire and fire. In fact, the destruction of White rights in America was
caused largely by the Jewish-created/led civil-rights movement.
The civil-rights movement also transformed the attitudes of American
Blacks: before the civil-rights movement Blacks were largely
respectful of Whites. Today Blacks openly denigrate White culture and
challenge White authority. They demand that 'whitey' now show them
respect which they may or may not have earned...
Jews have also led the movement in the U.S. Congress to open America
to non-European immigration. The best example of that is the 1965
Immigration Act, aka the Hart-Celler Act, which resulted in a
revolutionary change in U.S. immigration rules. Congressman Emanuel
Celler was the point man for that law, even though he is listed
second, after Hart, in the title 'Hart-Celler.' Indeed, President
Johnson mentioned Celler twice at the signing of the bill - H.R. 2580
into law on Oct. 3, 1965 but did not mention Hart. Other Jews in
Congress also spearheaded the movement to allow more non-Europeans
into America, such as Jacob Javits and Herbert Lehman. And an
influential Jewish immigration lawyer named Edward Dubroff regularly
advised Congressman Celler about immigration issues.
Additionally, powerful Jewish organizations carried out intense,
ongoing campaigns in order to pressure individual Congressmen to vote
for the loosening of U.S. immigration laws. At nearly every step of
the campaign to alter U.S. immigration laws, Jews were at the
forefront....
The controversial 1951 UN/UNESCO 'Statement on the Nature of Race and
Race Differences,' which denied many human racial differences, was
largely the invention of infamous Jewish anthropologist Ashley
Montagu. Here we see the doggedness of the Jewish agenda on race, for
as far back as 1935, Franz Boas - the Jewish godfather of race-denial
who inspired Montagu's efforts - approached two top scientists and
asked them to create an anti-racism/race-denial statement, which would
be signed by many other scientists and then publicized. Both of the
scientists that Boas approached - anthropologist and psychologist
Livingston Farrand and biologist Raymond Pearl - turned Boas down. Not
one to give up easily, Boas then approached yet another race expert,
anthropologist Earnest Hooton. Hooton agreed to create such a race
statement (he sent it to seven top scientists but only one signed
it)...
Other top experts who created race-denying/race-downplaying material
for the UN or UNESCO were also Jewish, including Melville Herskovits,
Otto Klineberg and Harry Shapiro. In fact, Jews virtually pioneered
the questionable-but-now-common 'official' theory that racial
differences between Whites and non-Whites do not really exist. The
teachings of the Jews mentioned above were used to drastically alter
Western culture, e.g. in arguing for the enactment of civil-rights
legislation...
The American political Left was built largely by Jews. For example,
Jewish Frankfurt School icon Herbert Marcuse laid the foundation for
the American 'hippie' counterculture via his popular book
"One-Dimensional Man" (1964). Other famous Jews who led the 1960s
hippie movement included Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin and Paul Krassner.
Lesser Jews drove the counterculture movement behind-the-scenes by
publishing, writing for or editing leftist newspapers and magazines.
Anti-war and college activism groups were disproportionately filled
with Jews, for example Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), whose
top leaders were Jewish, e.g. Todd Gitlin, Mike Spiegel, Al Haber, and
Mike Klonsky.
Most of the leaders of the feminist movement were Jews as well, for
example Betty Friedan, Letty Cottin Pogrebin, Lucy Komisar and Gloria
Steinem. Most of the leaders of the homosexual-rights movement have
been Jewish, too, such as Larry Kramer, Alan Klein and Arnie
Kantrowitz. Gun-control actions in the U.S. Congress have also been
dominated by Jews, such as Charles Schumer, Diane Feinstein and Howard
Metzenbaum. Jews created two landmark anti-gun laws in the 1990s: the
Brady law, which came from Howard Metzenbaum and Charles Schumer, and
the assault-rifle-ban law, which came from Dianne Feinstein and
Schumer. In fact, America's first significant anti-gun legislation,
the Gun Control Act of 1968, came from Congressman Emanuel Celler's
House bill H.R. 17735.
Even the famous Woodstock rock-and-roll concert in 1969 - which was a
noteworthy counterculture event - was created by Jews: Michael Lang,
Artie Kornfeld, Joel Rosenman and John Roberts.
Jews guided almost every step of the American counterculture movement.
THE GROWTH OF HOLLYWOOD/THE U.S. MEDIA
Of major importance to America's culture is that the Hollywood film
community and the American media as well are dominated by Jews.
Indeed, Jews founded the major Hollywood movie studios, e.g. Carl
Laemmle (Universal Pictures), William Fox (Fox Film Corp.), Louis B.
Mayer (Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer) and Adolph Zukor (Paramount Pictures).
Some of the more well-known Jews in modern Hollywood and the media
include film directors Steven Spielberg and Woody Allen, the Disney
Co.'s Michael Eisner, actors Dustin Hoffman and Kirk Douglas,
comedians Milton Berle and Don Rickles and news journalists Mike
Wallace, Barbara Walters and Ted Koppel (more information about Jews,
Hollywood and the media can be found in the essay "Who Rules America?"
by National Vanguard Books, available on the web or in their book
catalogue).
As the 1960s hippie revolution was occurring, another revolution of
sorts was happening in Hollywood. Jewish network executives began to
churn out movies and TV shows featuring Black actors in leading roles.
Hollywood also produced a notorious movie - starring well-known actors
- that featured an interracial relationship. It seemed that the Jews
in Hollywood, believing that the pro-White attitudes of America's
Founders would never return, became much bolder during the 1960s.
(Regarding America's Founders, a law created in the Founders' era,
'Act of March 26, 1790 (1 Stat 103-104),' stated that only Whites
could become American citizens. In fact, non-Whites had no significant
rights in America until the XV Amendment was created in 1870).
As America entered the 1970s it became common for Americans to see
Blacks, Jews and even Asians in prominent vocations on TV shows and in
movies. Those minorities were now seen portraying judges, police
detectives and attorneys across large and small screens all over the
U.S.
Non-Hollywood media also flourished in America from the 1960s onward.
The news departments at most broadcasting companies were run by, or
heavily staffed by, Jews. Major U.S. newspapers also came under Jewish
control as small newspapers were bought out by big media conglomerates
which were dominated by Jews. Furthermore, as American culture was
being socially 'Jewified,' so were the cultures of other Western
countries being similarly Jewified via American movies and TV shows,
which became popular in many countries. America served as a base of
sorts for the exporting of Jewish-created movies and TV shows which
featured leftist and politically-correct messages, which served
various Jewish social objectives...
SUMMARY
The information above shows that the impact that Jews have had upon
the world and especially upon the West since 1776 is remarkable.
Important questions arise from the impact of the Jews: without their
actions, would WWII have occurred? Would America have had a 50-year
Cold War with the Soviet Union? Would the Soviet Union have even
existed in the first place? Would the Vietnam War have occurred? Would
America be as politically liberal as it is today? Those are questions
for Westerners to ponder at length.
Even more remarkable is how the Western public never hears about the
influence of the Jews upon their cultures. Words such as 'leftist'..
in the West but never the word 'Jew.' We suggest that the lack of
mention of the Jews in Western societies is itself mute testimony to
the tremendous power of the Jews. By using a) frequent mentions of the
Holocaust; b) the media; c) Hollywood; d) large amounts of money; and
e) significant political influence, Jews have rebuilt the West to
their ends. Gentiles who complain about that Jewish rebuilding - and
their own dispossession as a result - are labeled 'anti-Semitic' and
marginalized into ineffectiveness. Such Jewish behavior as outlined
above is, again, not a plot by Jews but is instead inborn, proactive
behavior which supposedly helps to offset the chance that Jews will be
oppressed again, or be expelled from Western countries (Jews have been
expelled from most Western countries at one time or another)...."
LIGHT FOR NATIONS:
A Short History of the Jews in the Modern World
>That may be. So long as the other top whites who are but wannabe-Jews
>wishing to enter the heaven containing the Jewish God consider them
>their bosses and Chosen People, etc. they will retain their
>ascendancy. Such seems to be the will of their one true God! On the
>other hand, if we hold that the universe runs on morality, non-
>exclusiveness, and balance, then in due course more Hitlers will rise
>to power to depose the Jews from the cosy positions they do not
>deserve to possess.
>
>Practising or not, the Jew had to show leadership as being a member of
>the Chosen People implicitly confers such a responsibility.
>
>Well, Hitler lost and the Jews won. Hitler lost as he did not get
>enough support from the Eastern Europeans he liberated from Stalin.
>However, they found after their initial elation that Nazism with its
>racism was worse than Stalinism, so they changed their allegiance.
Here is a quote from Goebbels Diary, which is in the movie "the
>the Chosen People implicitly confers such a responsibility.
>
>Well, Hitler lost and the Jews won. Hitler lost as he did not get
>enough support from the Eastern Europeans he liberated from Stalin.
>However, they found after their initial elation that Nazism with its
>racism was worse than Stalinism, so they changed their allegiance.
Goebbels Experiment".
June the 27, 1941
Statements from Russian prisoners of war reveal truly dreadful
ignorance. That is the product of the Bolshevik education system. No
sign of any training or discipline. Many soldiers are shooting
themselves rather than being taken prisoner, because people have put
the fear of God into them about our men. Our broadcast propaganda
isn't getting through, so we need to drop leaflets in order to set
them straight.
>As far as non-whites such as I go, Jews are the leaders of the English-
>speaking whites who have total domination these days. So, Jews have
>to be treated with due respect, if one is wise. I must add, that I am
>not wise at all, that way. The Jews of Usenet hate me thoroughly, for
>good reason. I have said long and loud that Einstein was a huge
>bungler, that e=mcc is nonsense, and they don't like it one little
>bit, for Einstein is their human god and the Jews with their power in
>media and academia they have made him the human god for all mankind,
>you Nazis included.
> Still, they have not harmed me, only seen to it
>that I do not get employment to make enough money to prove my theories
>with experiment. Which is very nice of them; I think you Nazis would
>have treated me a lot worse if I spoke up against your god Hitler when
>he was in power.
>
>If the ancient Egyptians were white as they had blonde hair and blue
>eyes, then the Jews are also white going by such physical
>characteristics. They are not a race, but a caste as they inter-
>married among themselves, plus their women would attract top males
>from outside their caste. Hitler the bungler confused between race
>and caste.
they are enemies. Hitler knew that. Obsessing over words doesn't
change that.
>Of course slavery did the racist whites a lot of good. The African
>slave was used as a beast to do all the hard labour, so that the
>Ashley Wilkes etc. could lead cosy frenchified lives. USA could never
>have attained its present dominance without that initial back-breaking
>labour done with slavery. When the North industrialised, slavery
>became uneconomical and it should have died a natural death. However,
>racist arrogance prevailed, and so there had to be a Civil War the
>effects of which are very much present to this day.
Arindam Banerjee
Nov 30, 2012, 8:52:58 PM11/30/12
to
On Dec 1, 9:33 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:14:49 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:14:49 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >> bs
>
> >Interesting response, from a representative of the superior race!
>
> >Most Egyptians including their rulers were brown, like most Indians,
> >Middle Easterners and Carthagians. That is to say, they were not
> >white.
They recently had an incredible display of the glories of ancient
> >> bs
>
> >Interesting response, from a representative of the superior race!
>
> >Most Egyptians including their rulers were brown, like most Indians,
> >Middle Easterners and Carthagians. That is to say, they were not
> >white.
Egypt in the Melbourne Museum, bringing out artefacts from the time of
Tutankhamen. One of the exhibits was the mummy of Ramesese. After
seeing the mummy of perhaps Egypt's greatest pharoah, I wondered, what
was Dadu (my mother's late father) doing in ancient Egypt???? Nature
and genuine art not lie, o racist Topaz.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Satish
Nov 30, 2012, 9:19:27 PM11/30/12
to
> On Nov 29, 8:46 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:49:08 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> > <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > A few odd issues and examples do not judge whether one race is
> > >superior to the other.
>
> > Whites are on average much more intelligent than Blacks.
> > Thank White people for:
>
> > On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:49:08 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> > <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > A few odd issues and examples do not judge whether one race is
> > >superior to the other.
>
> > Whites are on average much more intelligent than Blacks.
>
[Overall, pupils of Indian and Chinese origin tend to do very well,
out-performing both the average and the scores of white pupils]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2002/race/educational_achievement.stm
Educational achievement
By Mike Baker
BBC education correspondent
The achievement of ethnic minority pupils in British schools is a
complex and sensitive issue.
Highlighting the performance of any particular group of students can
exacerbate their problems by encouraging prejudice and damaging self-
esteem. Equally, to adopt a 'colour blind' approach risks allowing
inequalities to remain unchallenged.
In every ethnic group in Britain there are high achievers. So, when
highlighting overall patterns of achievement, there is a danger of
appearing to suggest that all ethnic minority pupils have problems or
are victims of a school system that is failing them. This would be
unfair to many students and teachers.
However, to ignore patterns of achievement would be to put political
correctness ahead of the need to know what is happening to ethnic
minority pupils.
It is also clear that within the overall picture there is a patchwork
of different experiences within and between schools. In some schools
there is no difference in achievement between ethnic minority groups.
In others the gap is very wide.
Most patterns of ethnic minority achievement are also strongly
associated with differences of social class or poverty. The use of
English as a first language in homes is another important factor in
determining success at school.
Differences among groups
Overall then, pupils of Indian and Chinese origin tend to do very
well, out-performing both the average and the scores of white pupils.
By contrast, pupils of Pakistani origin show a very varied pattern of
achievement with some doing very well and others relatively poorly.
Pupils of Bangladeshi origin, who tend to experience higher levels of
poverty, mostly under-perform compared to other groups, although in
one London borough they are the highest achieving of all ethnic
groups.
Probably the greatest concern is over pupils, especially boys, of
African and Caribbean origin. This concern extends beyond examination
performance to issues of discipline and motivation.
The proportion of African-Caribbean students achieving 5 good GCSE
grades is well below the national average. Yet in Birmingham, where
there has been extensive testing of pupils at the school starting age
of 5African-Caribbean pupils were doing better than the average.
However, recent trends suggest ethnic minority students are mostly
closing the gap or, in some cases, pulling further ahead.
The proportion of African-Caribbean pupils getting 5 good GCSEs jumped
from 23% to 37% between 1996 and 2000. Over the same period the figure
for white students rose from 45% to 50%.
Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin students showed a more modest
improvement, rising from 23% to 30% and 25% to 30% respectively.
Students of Indian origin have pulled further ahead with 62% achieving
5 good passes, up from 48% four years earlier.
"Other Asian" students, a category that excludes Indian, Pakistani and
Bangladeshi students but includes children of Chinese origin, have the
highest score at 70%.
Major inquiry
The issue of ethnic minority achievement in schools is bound up with
discussion of racial discrimination and the arguments over integration
in the school system. These are issues which, since the 1970s at
least, have occasionally come to the boil.
In 1979, a major inquiry was set up in response to widespread concerns
about the achievement of 'West Indian' pupils. The resulting Swann
report focused attention on the relative achievement of different
ethnic minority groups and on the effects of racial discrimination in
the education system.
A lack of clear data, and the difficulties of separating out other
factors such as social class and poverty, meant the issue slipped from
the headlines. However, the Macpherson inquiry into the death of
Stephen Lawrence has renewed interest in the issue of "institutional
racism" and black achievement relative to others.
The Macpherson report recommended that schools should record all
racist incidents and record and publish an ethnic minority breakdown
of permanently excluded pupils.
Exclusion problems
There has been a growing focus on exclusion figures since analysis by
ethnic background has revealed that pupils of African-Caribbean origin
are several times more likely to be expelled as whites of the same
gender.
In 2000/01, 38 in every 10,000 Black Caribbean pupils in England were
permanently excluded. This was the highest rate for any ethnic
minority group. Indian pupils had the lowest rate, at just three in
10,000 pupils. White pupils were expelled at the rate of 13 in every
10,000.
As with academic achievement, African Caribbean pupils are starting to
close the gap as the numbers being excluded have fallen from a high of
60 per 10,000 in 1998/99.
Nevertheless there are serious concerns over the causes of this
relatively high exclusion rate, particularly as evidence suggests that
two out of every three pupils permanently excluded from school fail to
return to full-time mainstream education.
Recent research has show an unusually high degree of tension and
conflict between white teachers and African-Caribbean pupils. There is
also evidence that teachers are more likely to have a more negative
view of African-Caribbean pupils than those from other ethnic minority
groups.
Such findings have fuelled the calls for more black teachers and, from
some quarters, for separate schools for black pupils, either on a full-
time basis or as 'booster' Saturday morning schools.
There has also been a growing trend for families of Caribbean origin
to send their children to the West Indies for a period of schooling
there. Many parents believe discipline is better handled in Caribbean
schools and that African-Caribbean teachers will have a better
understanding of how to deal with their children's needs.
The presence of role models in schools is clearly important as a
motivating factor for children however it's estimated only around 3%
of teachers in Britain are from ethnic minorities, only around half
the proportion in the population as a whole.
However, once again, recent trends suggest an improvement: the most
recent figures showed that between 7 and 8% of new teacher recruits
came from ethnic minorities.
Arindam Banerjee
Dec 1, 2012, 5:31:45 AM12/1/12
to
On Dec 1, 9:33 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:14:49 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
>
between 1757 and 1947. One may say it is still ruled by white people
but I think this situation will not last beyond a few more decades.
The caste system
> was an attempt to preserve the White race.
to preserve skills and cultures, etc. in peace and freedom. White is
not associated with superiority, but beauty and purity in the Hindu
consciousness.
> It didn't work.
It still works, all too well for the lowest castes.
> >Go tell Mr Rundle that no one cares for his fake apologies. Non-
> >whites never asked whites to come to their lands to rob and demean
> >them, and push their goods material and non-material upon them.
>
> The reason America is rich is because it was made by White people.
all, so far as doing any real good is concerned anywhere.
The
> former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
> countries are the third world. Leftist blame all the problems in the
> world on the Whites.
racial group per se.
The real reason Black countries are the third
> world is that Blacks are on average much less intelligent than Whites
> as all IQ tests have proven.
> In the past White people built colonies in Africa and brought
> civilization there.
the whites ever were. In the South they evidently never needed what
you call civilisation, they managed without for hundreds of thousands
of years.
The Blacks were much better off with schools and
> hospitals and a lot of food. They were exporting food. But the
> liberals didn't like White people being in charge so they put a stop
> to the colonies. And they brought the starvation and misery back to
> Africa.
>
> The liberal plan of just giving food to the Blacks also causes more
> suffering. It always causes them to greatly increase their population
> and then there are a lot more people starving and needing even more
> food.
Alas! So what is your problem? The liberals are also white and doing
> The liberal plan of just giving food to the Blacks also causes more
> suffering. It always causes them to greatly increase their population
> and then there are a lot more people starving and needing even more
> food.
whites a favour by keeping the blacks down by not uplfting them or
letting them alone but just letting them survive somehow, with
patronisation. Sooner or later the blacks will see through this trick
and do whatever they need to do. Which, they should decide on their
own.
>
> Since the Liberals didn't like the colonies because Whites were
> running them, I propose that American Blacks be sent there. Many
> American Blacks are not very dark and have a lot of White blood in
> them and they are more intelligent than the African Blacks. They could
> teach the Africans how to farm and educate them in many other ways.
> With the proper leadership the starvation in Africa could be stopped.
Most parts of Africa are doing pretty well. It is only a few decades
> Since the Liberals didn't like the colonies because Whites were
> running them, I propose that American Blacks be sent there. Many
> American Blacks are not very dark and have a lot of White blood in
> them and they are more intelligent than the African Blacks. They could
> teach the Africans how to farm and educate them in many other ways.
> With the proper leadership the starvation in Africa could be stopped.
since the naked exploitations by the West has decreased. They will
need a few more decades to come up to speed, do whatever they want to
do.
>
> >Hardly. The White race is more dominant than ever, having corrupted
> >the elites of the non-white races beautifully, or marginalised them
> >with bombs or whatever.
>
> In the sixties the USA was 90% White. Now it's down to 70% and sinking
> fast.
So what? What the USA does in its own area is its own business.
> >Hardly. The White race is more dominant than ever, having corrupted
> >the elites of the non-white races beautifully, or marginalised them
> >with bombs or whatever.
>
> In the sixties the USA was 90% White. Now it's down to 70% and sinking
> fast.
>
> >Jews are the mostest whitest people around, actually. The top whites
> >consider them the Chosen People, follow some version of their
> >worldview, derive their culture accordingly, and out of love for them
> >won the last world war for them, happily suffering and inflicting
> >terrific violence and casualties. Jews have done wonders for the white
> >race that esteems them so highly, by raising the whites to such a
> >terrific position of total domination in the world. Why should Jews
> >hate the White race, when the White race gives them so much?
>
> "The 1950s-1960s civil-rights movement might go unnoticed by many
> White citizens if it were not for the fact that movement was created
> and steered by Jews, not by Blacks. Indeed, the NAACP was founded by
> and run for many years by Jews, such as the Spingarn brothers. Other
> key Jews in the NAACP included Henry Moskowitz, Lillian Wald, Jack
> Greenberg and Kivie Kaplan.
So? The rise of the blacks has made US even more rich, with blacks
> >Jews are the mostest whitest people around, actually. The top whites
> >consider them the Chosen People, follow some version of their
> >worldview, derive their culture accordingly, and out of love for them
> >won the last world war for them, happily suffering and inflicting
> >terrific violence and casualties. Jews have done wonders for the white
> >race that esteems them so highly, by raising the whites to such a
> >terrific position of total domination in the world. Why should Jews
> >hate the White race, when the White race gives them so much?
>
> "The 1950s-1960s civil-rights movement might go unnoticed by many
> White citizens if it were not for the fact that movement was created
> and steered by Jews, not by Blacks. Indeed, the NAACP was founded by
> and run for many years by Jews, such as the Spingarn brothers. Other
> key Jews in the NAACP included Henry Moskowitz, Lillian Wald, Jack
> Greenberg and Kivie Kaplan.
participating in the economy. Since money is basically all you
racists understand, otherwise you would not about your wealth, what
the Jews have done is only for the good of the US whites who are now
even richer.
white population wanted. This is how democracy works. Like it or
not.
>
> Even the famous Woodstock rock-and-roll concert in 1969 - which was a
> noteworthy counterculture event - was created by Jews: Michael Lang,
> Artie Kornfeld, Joel Rosenman and John Roberts.
> Jews guided almost every step of the American counterculture movement.
Okay. They are the bosses. I get it. But who does not know this?
> Even the famous Woodstock rock-and-roll concert in 1969 - which was a
> noteworthy counterculture event - was created by Jews: Michael Lang,
> Artie Kornfeld, Joel Rosenman and John Roberts.
> Jews guided almost every step of the American counterculture movement.
Democratically it is perfectly possible to reverse situations, given
the political will. However, when racists persist with their racist
dogma, I don't think they can ever succeed any more. The world has
changed, and this change penetrates even their narrow minds, as you
show.
>
> Even more remarkable is how the Western public never hears about the
> influence of the Jews upon their cultures. Words such as 'leftist'..
> in the West but never the word 'Jew.' We suggest that the lack of
> mention of the Jews in Western societies is itself mute testimony to
> the tremendous power of the Jews. By using a) frequent mentions of the
> Holocaust; b) the media; c) Hollywood; d) large amounts of money; and
> e) significant political influence, Jews have rebuilt the West to
> their ends. Gentiles who complain about that Jewish rebuilding - and
> their own dispossession as a result - are labeled 'anti-Semitic' and
> marginalized into ineffectiveness. Such Jewish behavior as outlined
> above is, again, not a plot by Jews but is instead inborn, proactive
> behavior which supposedly helps to offset the chance that Jews will be
> oppressed again, or be expelled from Western countries (Jews have been
> expelled from most Western countries at one time or another)...."
So what's new? Jews have made the whites rich and happy, powerful and
> Even more remarkable is how the Western public never hears about the
> influence of the Jews upon their cultures. Words such as 'leftist'..
> in the West but never the word 'Jew.' We suggest that the lack of
> mention of the Jews in Western societies is itself mute testimony to
> the tremendous power of the Jews. By using a) frequent mentions of the
> Holocaust; b) the media; c) Hollywood; d) large amounts of money; and
> e) significant political influence, Jews have rebuilt the West to
> their ends. Gentiles who complain about that Jewish rebuilding - and
> their own dispossession as a result - are labeled 'anti-Semitic' and
> marginalized into ineffectiveness. Such Jewish behavior as outlined
> above is, again, not a plot by Jews but is instead inborn, proactive
> behavior which supposedly helps to offset the chance that Jews will be
> oppressed again, or be expelled from Western countries (Jews have been
> expelled from most Western countries at one time or another)...."
united. Instead of civil wars and other wars among themselves
including religious wars, they are now enjoying themselves thoroughly
under their relatively new Jewish leadership, which has replaced the
monarchies and aristocracies. Beating up the non-whites, is no contest
at all these days for the whites, no squeamishness about warfare via
assassination any more. Yet, racist Nazis like you are not happy,
evidently. Why??
was talking about the East Europeans liberated from the Soviets, not
the Russians themselves. They changed the allegiances. Now, why did
they do that? Evidently they found Stalinism better than racism.
>
> >As far as non-whites such as I go, Jews are the leaders of the English-
> >speaking whites who have total domination these days. So, Jews have
> >to be treated with due respect, if one is wise. I must add, that I am
> >not wise at all, that way. The Jews of Usenet hate me thoroughly, for
> >good reason. I have said long and loud that Einstein was a huge
> >bungler, that e=mcc is nonsense, and they don't like it one little
> >bit, for Einstein is their human god and the Jews with their power in
> >media and academia they have made him the human god for all mankind,
> >you Nazis included.
>
> The National Socialists were not impressed by Einstein.
Good for them! When they are not boosting their stupid white-
> >As far as non-whites such as I go, Jews are the leaders of the English-
> >speaking whites who have total domination these days. So, Jews have
> >to be treated with due respect, if one is wise. I must add, that I am
> >not wise at all, that way. The Jews of Usenet hate me thoroughly, for
> >good reason. I have said long and loud that Einstein was a huge
> >bungler, that e=mcc is nonsense, and they don't like it one little
> >bit, for Einstein is their human god and the Jews with their power in
> >media and academia they have made him the human god for all mankind,
> >you Nazis included.
>
> The National Socialists were not impressed by Einstein.
supremacist racism, they often make excellent sense such as this.
> > Still, they have not harmed me, only seen to it
> >that I do not get employment to make enough money to prove my theories
> >with experiment. Which is very nice of them; I think you Nazis would
> >have treated me a lot worse if I spoke up against your god Hitler when
> >he was in power.
>
> What do you have against Hitler?
as he was confusing caste with race? For the Jews form a caste in the
white race. This is the point.
> >If the ancient Egyptians were white as they had blonde hair and blue
> >eyes, then the Jews are also white going by such physical
> >characteristics. They are not a race, but a caste as they inter-
> >married among themselves, plus their women would attract top males
> >from outside their caste. Hitler the bungler confused between race
> >and caste.
>
> Typical Jews don't have blonde hair and blue eyes. Whatever they are,
> they are enemies. Hitler knew that. Obsessing over words doesn't
> change that.
meaning, if you want to make any sense. How was Hitler not a Jew
himself going by appearances, he did not have blonde hair nor blue
eyes and was no whiter than the Jews. As for who is the enemy and who
is the friend, no one will ever know for there is no steadiness for
most relationships! So far as I am concerned, I do obsess with the
meanings of words, for they lead me to the truth and the truth is what
I rely upon, not lies and obfuscations.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Topaz
Dec 1, 2012, 11:21:10 AM12/1/12
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:52:58 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>They recently had an incredible display of the glories of ancient
>Egypt in the Melbourne Museum, bringing out artefacts from the time of
>Tutankhamen. One of the exhibits was the mummy of Ramesese. After
>seeing the mummy of perhaps Egypt's greatest pharoah, I wondered, what
>was Dadu (my mother's late father) doing in ancient Egypt???? Nature
>and genuine art not lie, o racist Topaz.
>
http://museumvictoria.com.au/about/mv-news/2010/king-tut-heading-to-melbourne/
<banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>They recently had an incredible display of the glories of ancient
>Egypt in the Melbourne Museum, bringing out artefacts from the time of
>Tutankhamen. One of the exhibits was the mummy of Ramesese. After
>seeing the mummy of perhaps Egypt's greatest pharoah, I wondered, what
>was Dadu (my mother's late father) doing in ancient Egypt???? Nature
>and genuine art not lie, o racist Topaz.
>
Tut's nose and mouth look White. His ears are huge. His eyes are very
wide. This link explains that used a lot of eye makeup back then. It
also shows a White looking person except for the strange eye.
http://www.experience-ancient-egypt.com/ancient-egyptian-makeup.html
Topaz
Dec 1, 2012, 12:07:36 PM12/1/12
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 02:31:45 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>India has been ruled by brown people, except for a brief period
>between 1757 and 1947. One may say it is still ruled by white people
>but I think this situation will not last beyond a few more decades.
That may be the politically correct version of history but:
<banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>India has been ruled by brown people, except for a brief period
>between 1757 and 1947. One may say it is still ruled by white people
>but I think this situation will not last beyond a few more decades.
http://www.richardcassaro.com/tag/aryan-invasion-of-india
Scholars now for centuries have believed that prehistoric India the
land of the swastika, which is the key symbol of Hinduism was once
home to two races: the invading Aryans (non-indigenous) and the
indigenous Dravidians.
The Aryan invasion theory posits that the Dravidians were the native
people of India long ago, and at a certain point were invaded from the
north by a sophisticated Caucasian race of nomadic warriors, the
Aryans. The victory of the Aryans was quick and complete, and they
chose to stay, abandoning their nomadic lifestyle and settling amongst
the natives. The Aryans taught the Dravidians their advanced Aryan
culture and religion, the key symbol of which is the swastika,
eventually leading to the dominance of their culture and language over
the northern part of the subcontinent. The Aryans instituted the caste
system and established themselves as the dominant caste in order to
prevent race-mixing (which they believed would be socially problematic
to their hegemony). These Aryans, according to historians, are the
ones who composed the sophisticated Vedic writings; these writings
form the heart of the religion of Hinduism.
From India, the Aryans eventually migrated westward into Europe,
creating the high cultures that evolved into Germany, Great Britain,
France, Spain, Italy, Poland, and so on. Every Caucasian in America
who can trace family roots to Europe is a descendant of these
historical Aryans.
Again, this is not an opinion, it is pure scholarship. In Barbarian
Tides, a 1982 publication from the highly respected Time-Life Books
library...
>No. The caste system is a natural social system, based upon the need
>to preserve skills and cultures, etc. in peace and freedom. White is
>not associated with superiority, but beauty and purity in the Hindu
>consciousness.
>Rich for exactly whom? Only a few people. America is not rich at
>all, so far as doing any real good is concerned anywhere.
In the good old days a man could afford children and his wife didn't
have to work. The biggest problem in schools was gum chewing. But it
was more than that. It was the entire culture. Look in the old movies
and you can see it. Men were men. Women were women. And everybody was
White.
Look at America now. There are non-Whites everywhere. Anyone can
see Black neighborhoods and not safe and not where you want to live.
America is slowly turning into a third world country.
The National Socialists were fighting for the good old days. They
were fighting for civilization.
The Jews make the movies and control the media. Now you can hardly
go to the movies without seeing race-mixing and feminism. Hopefully
the world will not continue to go down the tubes forever. If we stop
the Jews from controlling the media and society we can be on the path
back to the good old days.
Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:
"Thus another weapon beside that of freemasonry would have to be
secured. This was the Press. The Jew exercised all his skill and
tenacity in getting hold of it. By means of the Press he began
gradually to control public life in its entirety."
>
>No. By definition any leftist is not racist, so he cannot blame any
>racial group per se.
really mean they hate the White race and blame everything on Whites.
>All white-designed IQ tests to suit whites, no doubt.
universities, or anything.
>Nobody asked them to. In North Africa they were civlised long before
>the whites ever were. In the South they evidently never needed what
>you call civilisation, they managed without for hundreds of thousands
>of years.
"Queen Hetop-Heres II, of the Fourth Dynasty, the daughter of Cheops,
the builder of the great pyramid, is shown in the colored bas reliefs
of her tomb to have been a distinct blonde. Her hair is painted a
bright yellow stippled with little red horizontal lines, and her skin
is white."
Coon, Carleton Stevens. The Races of Europe. New York City, Macmillan.
1939, p.98
The tomb of the wife of Zoser, the builder of the first pyramid in
Egypt, has a painting of her showing her with reddish-blond hair.
Heyerdahl, Thor, The Ra Expeditions, Garden City, Doubleday, 1971,
p.249
The mummy of Rameses II has yellow hair.
Egypt: Land of the Pharaohs, Time-Life books, Alexandria, VA 1992 p.8
"A funerary mask with the attributes of the goddess Isis shows a
vivid blue-green color of eyes.
Museam. London, Harrison and Sons, 1930, p.49
>Are the liberals white or not?
White race traitors.
>Alas! So what is your problem? The liberals are also white and doing
>whites a favour by keeping the blacks down by not uplfting them or
>letting them alone but just letting them survive somehow, with
>patronisation. Sooner or later the blacks will see through this trick
>and do whatever they need to do. Which, they should decide on their
>own.
>Most parts of Africa are doing pretty well. It is only a few decades
>since the naked exploitations by the West has decreased. They will
>need a few more decades to come up to speed, do whatever they want to
>do.
>since the naked exploitations by the West has decreased. They will
>need a few more decades to come up to speed, do whatever they want to
>do.
>> In the sixties the USA was 90% White. Now it's down to 70% and sinking
>> fast.
>
>So what? What the USA does in its own area is its own business.
Whites should do our own business and we should not be ruled by Jews
>> fast.
>
>So what? What the USA does in its own area is its own business.
who hate the White race.
>So? The rise of the blacks has made US even more rich, with blacks
>participating in the economy. Since money is basically all you
>racists understand,
No, saying race is all we understand would be closer, though that
>participating in the economy. Since money is basically all you
>racists understand,
isn't true either. Money is all Conservatives understand.
> otherwise you would not about your wealth, what
>the Jews have done is only for the good of the US whites who are now
>even richer.
turning into a non-White third world country.
>So the Jews, being the leaders of the US whites, did only what the
>white population wanted. This is how democracy works. Like it or
>not.
choose between two bootlickers of the Jews.
>Okay. They are the bosses. I get it. But who does not know this?
>Go ahead, then. The leadership always need evaluation.
>Democratically it is perfectly possible to reverse situations, given
>the political will. However, when racists persist with their racist
>dogma, I don't think they can ever succeed any more. The world has
>changed, and this change penetrates even their narrow minds, as you
>show.
Racial truth doesn't change. We should preserve the White race.
>Democratically it is perfectly possible to reverse situations, given
>the political will. However, when racists persist with their racist
>dogma, I don't think they can ever succeed any more. The world has
>changed, and this change penetrates even their narrow minds, as you
>show.
>So what's new? Jews have made the whites rich and happy, powerful and
>united.
By Hugh Murray
Searching for employment in the late 19th century, many Irish
immigrants in America encountered the sign, "NINA" (No Irish Need
Apply). Today, their descendants face much the same discrimination. Of
course, now, it is not limited to the Irish - for in America men are
routinely denied jobs, promotions, contracts and scholarships because
they are of Irish, Italian, English, German or general European
heritage. Worse, not only is this discrimination government sponsored,
it is performed in the name of "Equal Opportunity." How did this come
about? Why do the media prefer to ignore it? Who fostered this
discrimination against white men?
In high school a white boy may be denied entrance into special
programs because he is not a preferred minority; or, in some cases, he
may be denied because he is not a girl. There are scholarships
available, but many cannot be awarded to a white male (for example,
Bill Gates of Microsoft was recently lauded by the media for
establishing a billion-dollar scholarship program - one in which
recipients are restricted to blacks only.) When the teen applies to
university, the administration will admit "basically qualified"
minorities, but reject better-qualified whites. When applying for
jobs, the same discrimination occurs. If the teen finds employment,
special, on-the-job training for promotion may be denied him as it is
reserved for minorities, even if they are lesser qualified and have
been on the job a shorter period of time. Once hired, he may be
required to attend "diversity training" sessions, in which he is
supposed to confess his alleged guilt of racism and sexism.
How did this systematic discrimination arise?
What did it mean to forbid discrimination? From the early days of the
20th century through 1964, most liberals were clear as to what this
meant-show no bias against or preference for a person because of his
race, sex, religion etc. This was the dominant view. But in the debate
over the civil rights bill in 1964 some opponents declared that if
passed, it would lead to, among other things: racial quotas and racial
balance in the workplace, preferences for blacks over whites in
employment, promotion, bank loans etc.
But, in Congress, the debate went otherwise. No senator who favored
the civil rights bill spoke up for quotas, "positive integration,"
racial balance or preferences for minorities above whites. Quite the
contrary.
How then did a law which promised to end discrimination by outlawing
discrimination against any individual, a law that promised preferences
for no group, which agreed to retain testing to reject unqualified
applicants-how was this law subverted into its opposite? Here the role
of Alfred Blumrosen is crucial. Blumrosen was among the zealots
working for the Equal Opportunity Employment Commission who did not
want the agency to function as created.
Alfred Blumrosen was instrumental in this and other shifts. He was a
professor at Rutgers University who became the EEOC's liaison chief
for federal, state and local agencies, and he admitted that his
"creative" reading of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was "contrary to
the plain meaning." But why worry? By 1965 when the Bank of America
instituted quota hiring under a euphemism, "the standard refrain of
the EEO bureaucracies, [was that] affirmative action [AA] had nothing
to do with racial quotas. That was illegal." Unfortunately, that
deceptive refrain is still heard today.
The goal of Sonia Pressman, another ideologue in the EEOC, was "to
document large disparities in employment patterns, [so] that
discriminatory intent might legally be inferred." ...the EEOC sought
to impose quotas while not calling them such because quotas were
clearly illegal. The agency sought to break the law.
Blumrosen and Pressman pushed the EEOC to defy the Civil Rights Act of
1964 by imposing quotas, demanding racial balance in the workplace and
giving preferences to blacks over whites. Essential to the Blumrosen-
Pressman campaign was the collection of statistics to show "disparate
impact," how minorities were underutilized, employed in a smaller
proportion in various occupations to their numbers in the general
population.
Blumrosen was set upon "selectively enforcing" the civil rights act by
using disparate impact theory and proportional representation only
when it affected others. (More accurately, Blumrosen was "selectively
malenforcing" the civil rights law, imposing quotas for
underrepresented blacks, using quotas to curb whites; for women,
against men; but never for gentiles and against Jews.)
Of course, had the EEOC sought to restrict Jews as it has white men,
the storm of protest would have cast "disparate impact" theory into
the dustbin of history. Thus, the role of Blumrosen and his allies in
the media, academia etc., was to create a false target - the
"overrepresented," "privileged" and "oppressive" white male. According
to the EEOC, the statistics proved just that. However, the statistics
proved otherwise. The partial statistics used by Blumrosen were simply
the effort to deflect criticism to another group instead of the one
most overrepresented, privileged and oppressive - his own.
By not asking the religious question on the EEOC questionnaires, the
EEOC created a scapegoat of the white male. Once smeared as
"privileged" and "oppressive," the non-privileged, working-class and
poor whites began to pay the price for the "moral" system of
affirmative action by being legally discriminated against and denied
equal opportunity.
The proportional test, the liberals' test of all tests, when applied
to the religious clause of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, shows Jews to
be the most privileged and oppressive of people in America. The fav-
orite test of liberals reveals white men to be less privileged than
the Jews. Why does not The New York Times, the EEOC, NBC, CBS or ABC
report that statistic? The media remain silent on the issue of Jewish
privilege while simultaneously exposing every time white men are
somewhat overrepresented. Why the silence regarding Jews? A glance at
the ownership of the media just might have something to do with this
disparity in exposing "privilege." And if any individual in the media
dared to expose some Jewish privilege, there would be a thunderous
assault upon that individual's "bigotry." However, daily, reporters
write of white male privilege, but almost no one denounces this anti-
white bigotry.
Once smeared as privileged, the non-privileged middle-class, working-
class, and poor whites pay for the "moral" system of AA by being
legally discriminated against and denied equal opportunity. But then
the history of America since the 1960s is often the record of wealthy
liberals using the law to curb and oppress blue-collar whites, because
the blue-collar folk are deemed privileged, prejudiced and provincial.
Therefore, such blue-collar whites deserve to be passed over in
scholarships, jobs and promotions; the blue-collar crowd should be
shunted aside, and instead the "pets" of the elite should be elevated:
the children of illegal immigrants, of wealthy minorities and the
daughters of rich liberals. And this is done in the name of morality,
fairness, and justice.
In summary, the great hoax concocted by Blumrosen and his
collaborators in the media, academy, and government is "white male
privilege." Most white men are not privileged. Those who are, often
support AA because it is no loss to them - their children will not
require a scholarship, an entry-level job, a position as policeman or
fireman, or a promotion. It is the poor and middle-class whites who,
denied equal opportunity, must pay with thinning wallets and shrunken
dreams for the "morality of diversity" imposed by the wealthy, liberal
elite.
Even if every CEO in America were a white male, that would be no
reason to discriminate against a poor, white teenage boy seeking a
scholarship and give it to a lesser qualified girl or minority. "White
male privilege" is a social construct created by liberals. They have
used their power in government, media, and academia to deny equal
opportunity to white men, to undermine and stigmatize America's
working class, and to immobilize with guilt the white middle class.
America does not suffer from white male privilege and oppression; it
staggers beneath Jewish privilege and oppression.
Excerpted from article found at:
http://www.barnesreview.org/Nov__Dec_2001/Who_s_to_Blame_for_the_Affirma/wh
o_s_to_blame_for_the_affirma.html
> Instead of civil wars and other wars among themselves
>including religious wars, they are now enjoying themselves thoroughly
>under their relatively new Jewish leadership, which has replaced the
>monarchies and aristocracies. Beating up the non-whites, is no contest
>at all these days for the whites, no squeamishness about warfare via
>assassination any more. Yet, racist Nazis like you are not happy,
>evidently. Why??
example. Everying in America is anti-White.
>Do you think you addressed my earlier point with this quotation? I
>was talking about the East Europeans liberated from the Soviets, not
>the Russians themselves. They changed the allegiances. Now, why did
>they do that? Evidently they found Stalinism better than racism.
Soviets. They got the same Soviet propaganda as the Russians.
>Good for them! When they are not boosting their stupid white-
>supremacist racism, they often make excellent sense such as this.
the Jews are. We want nations for White people.
>What would his goons have done had I stated that he was a huge bungler
>as he was confusing caste with race?
enemies. What is the huge difference if they are a caste or a race.
Anyway Hitler knew what you are saying. When he said Jews are a race
what he meant, and you can see from the context, is that they are not
just a religion.
> For the Jews form a caste in the
>white race. This is the point.
>You do want to make things clear using words giving them their proper
>meaning, if you want to make any sense. How was Hitler not a Jew
>himself going by appearances, he did not have blonde hair nor blue
>eyes and was no whiter than the Jews. As for who is the enemy and who
>is the friend, no one will ever know for there is no steadiness for
>most relationships! So far as I am concerned, I do obsess with the
>meanings of words, for they lead me to the truth and the truth is what
>I rely upon, not lies and obfuscations.
you say. And they got it. We want a country for Whites without Jews.
Topaz
Dec 1, 2012, 12:14:13 PM12/1/12
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:19:27 -0800 (PST), Satish <sk....@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>[Overall, pupils of Indian and Chinese origin tend to do very well,
>out-performing both the average and the scores of white pupils]
The difference between Asians and Whites on the IQ tests is
small, while the difference between Whites and Blacks is large.
Whites also invented everything. I believe that most of the IQ tests
are taken in the former White nations and the Asians who moved to
these countries are a cut above most of the Asians who were not as
ambitious. Anyway it doesn't matter. I am also for preserving the
Japanese and the Chinese races. They should have their own nations
just as we Whites should have ours. Liberals don't see any problem
with the Japanese and Chinese having their own nations. They only see
a problem when Whites have this. Then they endlessly promote
multi-culture and pluralism.
That is what liberals mean when they say "improvement" and "progress".
They hate their own race because the Jews control their media and
their minds.
wrote:
>
>[Overall, pupils of Indian and Chinese origin tend to do very well,
>out-performing both the average and the scores of white pupils]
small, while the difference between Whites and Blacks is large.
Whites also invented everything. I believe that most of the IQ tests
are taken in the former White nations and the Asians who moved to
these countries are a cut above most of the Asians who were not as
ambitious. Anyway it doesn't matter. I am also for preserving the
Japanese and the Chinese races. They should have their own nations
just as we Whites should have ours. Liberals don't see any problem
with the Japanese and Chinese having their own nations. They only see
a problem when Whites have this. Then they endlessly promote
multi-culture and pluralism.
They hate their own race because the Jews control their media and
their minds.
Warren Penn
Dec 1, 2012, 4:23:42 PM12/1/12
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Bannerjee, is that not some sort of convenience store name?
Arindam Banerjee
Dec 1, 2012, 10:23:54 PM12/1/12
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On Dec 2, 3:21 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:52:58 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:52:58 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >They recently had an incredible display of the glories of ancient
> >Egypt in the Melbourne Museum, bringing out artefacts from the time of
> >Tutankhamen. One of the exhibits was the mummy of Ramesese. After
> >seeing the mummy of perhaps Egypt's greatest pharoah, I wondered, what
> >was Dadu (my mother's late father) doing in ancient Egypt???? Nature
> >and genuine art not lie, o racist Topaz.
>
> http://museumvictoria.com.au/about/mv-news/2010/king-tut-heading-to-m...
> >They recently had an incredible display of the glories of ancient
> >Egypt in the Melbourne Museum, bringing out artefacts from the time of
> >Tutankhamen. One of the exhibits was the mummy of Ramesese. After
> >seeing the mummy of perhaps Egypt's greatest pharoah, I wondered, what
> >was Dadu (my mother's late father) doing in ancient Egypt???? Nature
> >and genuine art not lie, o racist Topaz.
>
>
> Tut's nose and mouth look White. His ears are huge. His eyes are very
> wide. This link explains that used a lot of eye makeup back then. It
> also shows a White looking person except for the strange eye.
Brown people can look like whites, asians blacks, etc. to various
> Tut's nose and mouth look White. His ears are huge. His eyes are very
> wide. This link explains that used a lot of eye makeup back then. It
> also shows a White looking person except for the strange eye.
degrees. The point is that for his brown skin King Tut would not have
been allowed in whites-only racist-imperialist establishments like
clubs, caucuses, etc.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Arindam Banerjee
Dec 1, 2012, 10:33:53 PM12/1/12
to
On Dec 2, 4:07 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 02:31:45 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 02:31:45 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >India has been ruled by brown people, except for a brief period
> >between 1757 and 1947. One may say it is still ruled by white people
> >but I think this situation will not last beyond a few more decades.
>
> That may be the politically correct version of history but:
>
> http://www.richardcassaro.com/tag/aryan-invasion-of-india
All the eurocentric scholars who came up with the aryan invasion of
> >India has been ruled by brown people, except for a brief period
> >between 1757 and 1947. One may say it is still ruled by white people
> >but I think this situation will not last beyond a few more decades.
>
> That may be the politically correct version of history but:
>
> http://www.richardcassaro.com/tag/aryan-invasion-of-india
India nonsense theory have much to answer for. Their conjured
theories, to get funding from the rich and prejudiced bigots who
wanted to keep on robbing browns with a good conscience for them and a
sense of duty for their gullible in-the-field twits, excited the
ardour of the wannabe sorts like Hitler most unduly, with horrendous
consequences.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Dec 1, 2012, 10:41:55 PM12/1/12
to
In article
<38b80a7c-5741-4eea...@q5g2000pbk.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.jai-maharaj
<38b80a7c-5741-4eea...@q5g2000pbk.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> On Dec 2, 4:07=A0am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 02:31:45 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >India has been ruled by brown people, except for a brief period
> > >between 1757 and 1947. =A0One may say it is still ruled by white people
> On Dec 2, 4:07=A0am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 02:31:45 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >India has been ruled by brown people, except for a brief period
> > >but I think this situation will not last beyond a few more decades.
> >
> > That may be the politically correct version of history but:
> >
> > http://www.richardcassaro.com/tag/aryan-invasion-of-india
>
> All the eurocentric scholars who came up with the aryan invasion of
> India nonsense theory have much to answer for. Their conjured
> theories, to get funding from the rich and prejudiced bigots who
> wanted to keep on robbing browns with a good conscience for them and a
> sense of duty for their gullible in-the-field twits, excited the
> ardour of the wannabe sorts like Hitler most unduly, with horrendous
> consequences.
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
I agree. The AIT has been shown to be invalid over and over again.
> >
> > That may be the politically correct version of history but:
> >
> > http://www.richardcassaro.com/tag/aryan-invasion-of-india
>
> All the eurocentric scholars who came up with the aryan invasion of
> India nonsense theory have much to answer for. Their conjured
> theories, to get funding from the rich and prejudiced bigots who
> wanted to keep on robbing browns with a good conscience for them and a
> sense of duty for their gullible in-the-field twits, excited the
> ardour of the wannabe sorts like Hitler most unduly, with horrendous
> consequences.
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
Arindam Banerjee
Dec 1, 2012, 11:11:16 PM12/1/12
to
On Dec 2, 2:41 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article
> <38b80a7c-5741-4eea-9fb2-bebd1cf54...@q5g2000pbk.googlegroups.com>,
Indeed. No self-respecting Indian believes it, though it is forced
down their throats in the school curriculum, still.
>
> - Show quoted text -
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article
> <38b80a7c-5741-4eea-9fb2-bebd1cf54...@q5g2000pbk.googlegroups.com>,
down their throats in the school curriculum, still.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.jai-maharaj- Hide quoted text -
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Dec 1, 2012, 11:37:43 PM12/1/12
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In article
<cb2b82f4-57d8-4745...@q5g2000pbk.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
Hindi) said about a so-called Aryan invasion, but what I
learned from my parents and grandparents at home
indicated no such invasion in our past. Archeological
evidence contradicts the Aryan Invasion Theory (AIT). The
following post is from 16 years ago:
[ Subject: Myth of Aryan Invasion
[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
[ Date: 13 Jul 1996 00:00:00 UTC
[The following article written by David Frawley appeared
in "The India Times." David Frawley, a well-known Vedic
scholar, is the director of the American Institute of
Vedic Studies in santa Fe, New Mexico. Those interested
in this subject may refer to his book "Gods, Sages and
Kings: Vedic Secrets of Ancient Civilization."]
THE MYTH OF THE ARYAN INVASION OF INDIA
By David Frawley
One of the main ideas used to interpret -- and generally
devalue -- the ancient history of India is the theory of
the Aryan invasion. According to this account, India was
invaded and conquered by nomadic light-skinned
Indo-European tribes from Central Asia around 1500-100
BCE, who overthrew an earlier and more advanced
dark-skinned Dravidian civilization from which they took
most of what later became Hindu culture. This so-called
pre-Aryan civilization is said to be evidenced by the
large urban ruins of what has been called the "Indus
valley culture" (as most of its initial sites were on
the Indus river). The war between the powers of light
and darkness, a prevalent idea in ancient Aryan Vedic
scriptures, was thus interpreted to refer to this war
between light and dark-skinned peoples. The Aryan
invasion theory thus turned the "Vedas", the original
scriptures of ancient India and the Indo-Aryans, into
little more than primitive poems of uncivilized
plunderers.
This idea -- totally foreign to the history of India,
whether north or south -- has become almost an
unquestioned truth in the interpretation of ancient
history Today, after nearly all the reasons for its
supposed validity have been refuted, even major Western
scholars are at last beginning to call it in question.
In this article we will summarize the main points that
have arisen. This is a complex subject that I have dealt
with in depth in my book "Gods, Sages and Kings: Vedic
Secrets of Ancient Civilization", for those interested
in further examination of the subject.
The Indus valley culture was pronounced pre-Aryans for
several reasons that were largely part of the cultural
milieu of nineteenth century European thinking As
scholars following Max Mullar had decided that the
Aryans came into India around 1500 BCE, since the Indus
valley culture was earlier than this, they concluded
that it had to be pre-Aryan. Yet the rationale behind
the late date for the Vedic culture given by Muller was
totally speculative. Max Muller, like many of the
Christian scholars of his era, believed in Biblical
chronology. This placed the beginning of the world at
400 BCE and the flood around 2500 BCE. Assuming to those
two dates, it became difficult to get the Aryans in
India before 1500 BCE.
Muller therefore assumed that the five layers of the
four "Vedas" and "Upanishads" were each composed in 200
year periods before the Buddha at 500 BCE. However,
there are more changes of language in Vedic Sanskrit
itself than there are in classical Sanskrit since
Panini, also regarded as a figure of around 500 BCE, or
a period of 2500 years. Hence it is clear that each of
these periods could have existed for any number of
centuries and that the 200 year figure is totally
arbitrary and is likely too short a figure.
It was assumed by these scholars -- many of whom were
also Christian missionaries unsympathetic to the "Vedas"
-- that the Vedic culture was that of primitive nomads
from Central Asia. Hence they could not have founded any
urban culture like that of the Indus valley. The only
basis for this was a rather questionable interpretation
of the "Rig Veda" that they made, ignoring the
sophisticated nature of the culture presented within it.
Meanwhile, it was also pointed out that in the middle of
the second millennium BCE, a number of Indo-European
invasions apparently occured in the Middle East, wherein
Indo-European peoples -- the Hittites, Mittani and
Kassites -- conquered and ruled Mesopotamia for some
centuries. An Aryan invasion of India would have been
another version of this same movement of Indo-European
peoples. On top of this, excavators of the Indus valley
culture, like Wheeler, thought they found evidence of
destruction of the culture by an outside invasion
confirming this.
The Vedic culture was thus said to be that of primitive
nomads who came out of Central Asia with their
horse-drawn chariots and iron weapons and overthrew the
cities of the more advanced Indus valley culture, with
their superior battle tactics. It was pointed out that
no horses, chariots or iron was discovered in Indus
valley sites.
This was how the Aryan invasion theory formed and has
remained since then. Though little has been discovered
that confirms this theory, there has been much hesitancy
to question it, much less to give it up.
Further excavations discovered horses not only in Indus
Valley sites but also in pre-Indus sites. The use of the
horse has thus been proven for the whole range of
ancient Indian history. Evidence of the wheel, and an
Indus seal showing a spoked wheel as used in chariots,
has also been found, suggesting the usage of chariots.
Moreover, the whole idea of nomads with chariots has
been challenged. Chariots are not the vehicles of
nomads. Their usage occured only in ancient urban
cultures with much flat land, of which the river plain
of north India was the most suitable. Chariots are
totally unsuitable for crossing mountains and deserts,
as the so-called Aryan invasion required.
That the Vedic culture used iron -- and must hence date
later than the introduction of iron around 1500 BCE --
revolves around the meaning of the Vedic term "ayas",
interpreted as iron. "Ayas" in other Indo-European
languages like Latin or German usually means copper,
bronze or ore generally, not specially iron. There is no
reason to insist that in such earlier Vedic times,
"ayas" meant iron, particularly since other metals are
not mentioned in the "Rig Veda" (except gold that is
much more commonly referred to than ayas). Moreover, the
"Atharva Veda" and "Yajur Veda" speak of different
colors of "ayas" (such as red and black), showing that
it was a generic term. Hence it is clear that "ayas"
generally meant metal and not specifically iron.
Moreover, the enemies of the Vedic people in the "Rig
Veda" also use ayas, even for making their cities, as do
the Vedic people themselves. Hence there is nothing in
Vedic literture to show that either the Vedic culture
was an iron-based culture or that there enemies were
not.
The "Rig Veda" describes its Gods as "destroyers of
cities". This was used also to regard the Vedic as a
primitive non-urban culture that destroys cities and
urban civilization. However, there are also many verses
in the "Rig Veda" that speak of the Aryans as having
having cities of their own and being protected by cities
upto a hundred in number. Aryan Gods like Indra, Agni,
Saraswati and the Adityas are praised as being like a
city. Many ancient kings, including those of Egypt and
Mesopotamia, had titles like destroyer or conquerer of
cities. This does not turn them into nomads. Destruction
of cities also happens in modern wars; this does not
make those who do this nomads. Hence the idea of Vedic
culture as destroying but not building the cities is
based upon ignoring what the Vedas actually say about
their own cities.
Further excavation revealed that the Indus Valley
culture was not destroyed by outside invasion, but
according to internal causes and, most likely, floods.
Most recently a new set of cities has been found in
India (like the Dwaraka and Bet Dwaraka sites by S.R.
Rao and the National Institute of Oceanography in India)
which are intermidiate between those of the Indus
culture and later ancient India as visited by the
Greeks. This may eliminate the so-called dark age
following the presumed Aryan invasion and shows a
continuous urban occupation in India back to the
beginning of the Indus culture.
The interpretation of the religion of the Indus Valley
culture -- made incidentlly by scholars such as Wheeler
who were not religious scholars much less students of
Hinduism -- was that its religion was different than the
Vedic and more likely the later Shaivite religion.
However, further excavations -- both in Indus Valley
site in Gujarat, like Lothal, and those in Rajsthan,
like Kalibangan -- show large number of fire altars like
those used in the Vedic religion, along with bones of
oxen, potsherds, shell jewelry and other items used in
the rituals described in the "Vedic Brahmanas". Hence
the Indus Valley culture evidences many Vedic practices
that can not be merely coincidental. That some of its
practices appeared non-Vedic to its excavators may also
be attributed to their misunderstanding or lack of
knowledge of Vedic and Hindu culture generally, wherein
Vedism and Shaivism are the same basic tradition.
We must remember that ruins do not necessarily have one
interpretation. Nor does the ability to discover ruins
necessarily gives the ability to interpret them
correctly.
The Vedic people were thought to have been a
fair-skinned race like the Europeans owing to the Vedic
idea of a war between light and darkness, and the Vedic
people being presented as children of light or children
of the sun. Yet this idea of a war between light and
darkness exists in most ancient cultures, including the
Persian and the Egyptian. Why don't we interpret their
scriptures as a war between light and dark-skinned
people? It is purely a poetic metaphor, not a cultural
statement. Moreover, no real traces of such a race are
found in India.
Anthropologists have observed that the present
population of Gujarat is composed of more or less the
same ethnic groups as are noticed at Lothal in 2000 BCE.
Similarly, the present population of the Punjab is said
to be ethnically the same as the population of Harappa
and Rupar 4000 years ago. Linguistically the present day
population of Gujrat and Punjab belongs to the
Indo-Aryan language speaking group. The only inference
that can be drawn from the anthropological and
linguistic evidences adduced above is that the Harappan
population in the Indus Valley and Gujrat in 2000 BCE
was composed of two or more groups, the more dominent
among them having very close ethnic affinities with the
present day Indo-Aryan speaking population of India.
In other words there is no racial evidence of any such
Indo-Aryan invasion of India but only of a continuity of
the same group of people who traditionally considered
themselves to be Aryans.
There are many points in fact that prove the Vedic
nature of the Indus Valley culture. Further excavation
has shown that the great majority of the sites of the
Indus Valley culture were east, not west of Indus. In
fact, the largest concentration of sites appears in an
area of Punjab and Rajsthan near the dry banks of
ancient Saraswati and Drishadvati rivers. The Vedic
culture was said to have been founded by the sage Manu
between the banks of Saraswati and Drishadvati rivers.
The Saraswati is lauded as the main river (naditama) in
the "Rig Veda" and is the most frequently mentioned in
the text. It is said to be a great flood and to be wide,
even endless in size. Saraswati is said to be "pure in
course from the mountains to the sea". Hence the Vedic
people were well acquainted with this river and regarded
it as their immemorial hoemland.
The Saraswati, as modern land studies now reveal, was
indeed one of the largest, if not the largest river in
India. In early ancient and pre-historic times, it once
drained the Sutlej, Yamuna and the Ganges, whose courses
were much different than they are today. However, the
Saraswati river went dry at the end of the Indus Valley
culture and before the so-called Aryan invasion or
before 1500 BCE. In fact this may have caused the ending
of the Indus culture. How could the Vedic Aryans know of
this river and establish their culture on its banks if
it dried up before they arrived? Indeed the Saraswati as
described in the "Rig Veda" appears to more accurately
show it as it was prior to the Indus Valley culture as
in the Indus era it was already in decline.
Vedic and late Vedic texts also contain interesting
astronomical lore. The Vedic calender was based upon
astronomical sightings of the equinoxes and solstices.
Such texts as "Vedanga Jyotish" speak of a time when the
vernal equinox was in the middle of the Nakshtra Aslesha
(or about 23 degrees 20 minutes Cancer). This gives a
date of 1300 BCE. The "Yajur Veda" and "Atharva Veda"
speak of the vernal equinox in the Krittikas (Pleiades;
early Taurus) and the summer solstice (ayana) in Magha
(early Leo). This gives a date about 2400 BCE. Yet
earlier eras are mentioned but these two have numerous
references to substantiate them. They prove that the
Vedic culture existed at these periods and already had a
sophisticated system of astronomy. Such references were
merely ignored or pronounced unintelligible by Western
scholars because they yielded too early a date for the
"Vedas" than what they presumed, not because such
references did not exist.
Vedic texts like "Shatapatha Brahmana" and "Aitereya
Brahmana" that mention these astronomical references
list a group of 11 Vedic Kings, including a number of
figures of the "Rig Veda", said to have conquered the
region of India from "sea to sea". Lands of the Aryans
are mentioned in them from Gandhara (Afganistan) in the
west to Videha (Nepal) in the east, and south to
Vidarbha (Maharashtra). Hence the Vedic people were in
these regions by the Krittika equinox or before 2400
BCE. These passages were also ignored by Western
scholars and it was said by them that the "Vedas" had no
evidence of large empires in India in Vedic times. Hence
a pattern of ignoring literary evidence or
misinterpreting them to suit the Aryan invasion idea
became prevalent, even to the point of changing the
meaning of Vedic words to suit this theory.
According to this theory, the Vedic people were nomads
in the Punjab, comming down from Central Asia. However,
the "Rig Veda" itself has nearly 100 references to ocean
(samudra), as well as dozens of references to ships, and
to rivers flowing in to the sea. Vedic ancestors like
Manu, Turvasha, Yadu and Bhujyu are flood figures, saved
from across the sea. The Vedic God of the sea, Varuna,
is the father of many Vedic seers and seer families like
Vasishta, Agastya and the Bhrigu seers. To preserve the
Aryan invasion idea it was assumed that the Vedic (and
later sanskrit) term for ocean, samudra, originally did
not mean the ocean but any large body of water,
especially the Indus river in Punjab. Here the clear
meaning of a term in "Rig Veda" and later times --
verified by rivers like Saraswati mentioned by name as
flowing into the sea -- was altered to make the Aryan
invasion theory fit. Yet if we look at the index to
translation of the "Rig Veda" by Griffith for example,
who held to this idea that samudra didn't really mean
the ocean, we find over 70 references to ocean or sea.
If samudra does noe mean ocean why was it traslated as
such? It is therefore without basis to locate Vedic
kings in Central Asia far from any ocean or from the
massive Saraswati river, which form the background of
their land and the symbolism of their hymns.
One of the latest archeological ideas is that the Vedic
culture is evidenced by Painted Grey Ware pottery in
north India, which apears to date around 1000 BCE and
comes from the same region between the Ganges and Yamuna
as later Vedic culture is related to. It is thought to
be an inferior grade of pottery and to be associated
with the use of iron that the "Vedas" are thought to
mention. However it is associated with a pig and rice
culture, not the cow and barley culture of the "Vedas".
Moreover it is now found to be an organic development of
indegenous pottery, not an introduction of invaders.
Painted Grey Ware culture represents an indigenous
cultural development and does not reflect any cultural
intrusion from the West i.e. an Indo-Aryan invasion.
Therefore, there is no archeological evidence
corroborating the fact of an Indo-Aryan invasion.
In addition, the Aryans in the Middle East, most notably
the Hittites, have now been found to have been in that
region atleast as early as 2200 BCE, wherein they are
already mentioned. Hence the idea of an Aryan invasion
into the Middle East has been pushed back some
centuries, though the evidence so far is that the people
of the mountain regions of the Middle East were
Indo-Europeans as far as recorded history can prove.
The Aryan Kassites of the ancient Middle East worshipped
Vedic Gods like Surya and the Maruts, as well as one
named Himalaya. The Aryan Hittites and Mittani signed a
treaty with the name of the Vedic Gods Indra, Mitra,
Varuna and Nasatyas around 1400 BCE. The Hittites have a
treatise on chariot racing written in almost pure
Sanskrit. The Indo-Europeans of the ancient Middle East
thus spoke Indo-Aryan, not Indo-Iranian languages and
thereby show a Vedic culture in that region of the world
as well.
The Indus Valley culture had a form of writing, as
evidenced by numerous seals found in the ruins. It was
also assumed to be non-Vedic and probably Dravidian,
though this was never proved. Now it has been shown that
the majority of the late Indus signs are identical with
those of later Hindu Brahmi and that there is an organic
development between the two scripts. Prevalent models
now suggest an Indo-European base for that language.
It was also assumed that the Indus Valley culture
derived its civilization from the Middle East, probably
Sumeria, as antecedents for it were not found in India.
Recent French excavations at Mehrgarh have shown that
all the antecedents of the Indus Valley culture can be
found within the subcontinent and going back before 6000
BCE.
In short, some Western scholars are beginning to reject
the Aryan invasion or any outside origin for Hindu
civilization.
Current archeological data do not support the existence
of an Indo-Aryan or European invasion into South Asia at
any time in the pre- or protohistoric periods. Instead,
it is possible to document archeologically a series of
cultural changes reflecting indigenous cultural
development from prehistoric to historic periods. The
early Vedic literature describes not a human invasion
into the area, but a fundamental restructuring of
indigenous society. The Indo-Aryan invasion as an
academic concept in 18th and 19th century Europe
reflected the cultural milieu of the period. Linguistic
data were used to validate the concept that in turn was
used to interpret archeological and anthropological
data.
In other words, Vedic literature was interpreted on the
assumption that there was an Aryan invasion. Then
archeological evidence was interpreted by the same
assumption. And both interpretations were then used to
justify each other. It is nothing but a tautology, an
exercise in circular thinking that only proves that if
assuming something is true, it is found to be true!
Another modern Western scholar, Colin Renfrew, places
the Indo-Europeans in Greece as early as 6000 BCE. He
also suggests such a possible early date for their entry
into India.
As far as I can see there is nothing in the Hymns of the
"Rig Veda" which demonstrates that the Vedic-speaking
population was intrusive to the area: this comes rather
from a historical assumption of the "coming of the
Indo-Europeans."
When Wheeler speaks of "the Aryan invasion of the land
of the 7 rivers, the Punjab", he has no warrenty at all,
so far as I can see. If one checks the dozen references
in the "Rig Veda" to the 7 rivers, there is nothing in
them that to me implies invasion: the land of the 7
rivers is the land of the "Rig Veda", the scene of
action. Nor is it implied that the inhabitants of the
walled cities (including the Dasyus) were any more
aboriginal than the Aryans themselves.
Despite Wheeler's comments, it is difficult to see what
is particularly non-Aryan about the Indus Valley
civilization. Hence Renfrew suggests that the Indus
Valley civilization was in fact Indo-Aryan even prior to
the Indus Valley era:
This hypothesis that early Indo-European languages were
spoken in North India with Pakistan and on the Iranian
plateau at the 6th millennium BCE has the merit of
harmonizing symmetrically with the theory for the origin
of the Indo-European languages in Europe. It also
emphasizes the continuity in the Indus Valley and
adjacent areas from the early neolithic through to the
floruit of the Indus Valley civilization.
This is not to say that such scholars appreciate or
understand the "Vedas" -- their work leaves much to be
desired in this respect -- but that it is clear that the
whole edifice built around the Aryan invasion is
beginning to tumble on all sides. In addition, it does
not mean that the "Rig Veda" dates from the Indus Valley
era. The Indus Valley culture resembles that of the
"Yajur Veda" and the reflect the pre-Indus period in
India, when the Saraswati river was more prominent.
The acceptance of such views would create a revolution
in our view of history as shattering as that in science
caused by Einstein's theory of relativity. It would make
ancient India perhaps the oldest, largest and most
central of ancient cultures. It would mean that the
Vedic literary record -- already the largest and oldest
of the ancient world even at a 1500 BCE date -- would be
the record of teachings some centuries or thousands of
years before that. It would mean that the "Vedas" are
our most authentic record of the ancient world. It would
also tend to validate the Vedic view that the
Indo-Europeans and other Aryan peoples were migrants
from India, not that the Indo-Aryans were invaders into
India. Moreover, it would affirm the Hindu tradition
that the Dravidians were early offshoots of the Vedic
people through the seer Agastya, and not unaryan
peoples.
In closing, it is important to examine the social and
political implications of the Aryan invasion idea:
* First, it served to divide India into a northern Aryan
and southern Dravidian culture which were made hostile
to each other. This kept the Hindus divided and is still
a source of social tension.
* Second, it gave the British an excuse in their
conquest of India. They could claim to be doing only
what the Aryan ancestors of the Hindus had previously
done millennia ago.
* Third, it served to make Vedic culture later than and
possibly derived from Middle Eastern cultures. With the
proximity and relationship of the latter with the Bible
and Christianity, this kept the Hindu religion as a
sidelight to the development of religion and
civilization to the West.
* Fourth, it allowed the sciences of India to be given a
Greek basis, as any Vedic basis was largely disqualified
by the primitive nature of the Vedic culture.
This discredited not only the "Vedas" but the
genealogies of the "Puranas" and their long list of the
kings before the Buddha or Krishna were left without any
historical basis. The "Mahabharata", instead of a civil
war in which all the main kings of India participated as
it is described, became a local skirmish among petty
princes that was later exaggerated by poets. In short,
it discredited the most of the Hindu tradition and
almost all its ancient literature. It turned its
scriptures and sages into fantacies and exaggerations.
This served a social, political and economical purpose
of domination, proving the superiority of Western
culture and religion. It made the Hindus feel that their
culture was not the great thing that their sages and
ancestors had said it was. It made Hindus feel ashamed
of their culture -- that its basis was neither
historical nor scientific. It made them feel that the
main line of civilization was developed first in the
Middle East and then in Europe and that the culture of
India was peripheral and secondary to the real
development of world culture.
Such a view is not good scholarship or archeology but
merely cultural imperialism. The Western Vedic scholars
did in the intellectual spehere what the British army
did in the political realm -- discredit, divide and
conquer the Hindus. In short, the compelling reasons for
the Aryan invasion theory were neither literary nor
archeological but political and religious -- that is to
say, not scholarship but prejudice. Such prejudice may
not have been intentional but deep-seated political and
religious views easily cloud and blur our thinking.
It is unfortunate that this this approach has not been
questioned more, particularly by Hindus. Even though
Indian Vedic scholars like Dayananda saraswati, Bal
Gangadhar Tilak and Arobindo rejected it, most Hindus
today passively accept it. They allow Western, generally
Christian, scholars to interpret their history for them
and quite naturally Hinduism is kept in a reduced role.
Many Hindus still accept, read or even honor the
translations of the "Vedas" done by such Christian
missionary scholars as Max Muller, Griffith, Monier-
Williams and H. H. Wilson. Would modern Christians
accept an interpretation of the Bible or Biblical
history done by Hindus aimed at converting them to
Hinduism? Universities in India also use the Western
history books and Western Vedic translations that
propound such views that denigrate their own culture and
country.
The modern Western academic world is sensitive to
critisms of cultural and social biases. For scholars to
take a stand against this biased interpretation of the
"Vedas" would indeed cause a reexamination of many of
these historical ideas that can not stand objective
scrutiny. But if Hindu scholars are silent or passively
accept the misinterpretation of their own culture, it
will undoubtly continue, but they will have no one to
blame but themselves. It is not an issue to be taken
lightly, because how a culture is defined historically
creates the perspective from which it is viewed in the
modern social and intellectual context. Tolerance is not
in allowing a false view of one's own culture and
religion to be propagated without question. That is
merely self-betrayal.
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References
1. "Atherva Veda" IX.5.4.
2. "Rig Veda" II.20.8 & IV.27.1.
3. "Rig Veda" VII.3.7; VII.15.14; VI.48.8; I.166.8;
I.189.2; VII.95.1.
4. S.R. Rao, "Lothal and the Indus Valley
Civilization", Asia Publishing House, Bombay, India,
1973, p. 37, 140 & 141.
5. Ibid, p. 158.
6. "Manu Samhita" II.17-18.
7. Note "Rig Veda" II.41.16; VI.61.8-13; I.3.12.
8. "Rig Veda" VII.95.2.
9. Studies from the post-graduate Research Institute of
Deccan College, Pune, and the Central Arid Zone Research
Institute (CAZRI), Jodhapur. Confirmed by use of MSS
(multi-spectral scanner) and Landsat Satellite
photography. Note MLBD Newsletter (Delhi, India: Motilal
Banarasidass), Nov. 1989. Also Sriram Sathe, "Bharatiya
Historiography", Itihasa Sankalana Samiti, Hyderabad,
India, 1989, pp. 11-13.
10. "Vedanga Jyotisha of Lagadha", Indian National
Science Academy, Delhi, India, 1985, pp 12-13.
11. "Aitareya Brahmana", VIII.21-23; "Shatapat
Brahmana", XIII.5.4.
12. R. Griffith, "The Hymns of the Rig Veda", Motilal
Banarasidas, Delhi, 1976.
13. J. Shaffer, "The Indo-Aryan invasions: Cultural
Myth and Archeological Reality", from J. Lukas(Ed), "The
people of South Asia", New York, 1984, p. 85.
14. T. Burrow, "The Proto-Indoaryans", Journal of Royal
Asiatic Society, No. 2, 1973, pp. 123-140.
15. G. R. Hunter, "The Script of Harappa and
Mohenjodaro and its connection with other scripts",
Kegan Paul, Trench, Trubner & Co., London, 1934. J.E.
Mitchiner, "Studies in the Indus Valley Inscriptions",
Oxford & IBH, Delhi, India, 1978. Also the work of
Subhash Kak as in "A Frequency Analysis of the Indus
Script", Cryptologia, July 1988, Vol XII, No 3; "Indus
Writing", The Mankind Quarterly, Vol 30, No 1 & 2,
Fall/Winter 1989; and "On the Decipherment of the Indus
Script - A Preliminary Study of its connection with
Brahmi", Indian Journal of History of Science,
22(1):51-62 (1987). Kak may be close to deciphering the
Indus Valley script into a Sanskrit like or Vedic
language.
16. J.F. Jarrige and R.H. Meadow, "The Antecedents of
Civilization in the Indus Valley", Scientific American,
August 1980.
17. C. Renfrew, "Archeology and Language", Cambridge
University Press, New York, 1987.
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<cb2b82f4-57d8-4745...@q5g2000pbk.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article
> > <38b80a7c-5741-4eea-9fb2-bebd1cf54...@q5g2000pbk.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > On Dec 2, 4:07=3DA0am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 02:31:45 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >India has been ruled by brown people, except for a brief period
> > > > >between 1757 and 1947. =3DA0One may say it is still ruled by white
> > In article
> > <38b80a7c-5741-4eea-9fb2-bebd1cf54...@q5g2000pbk.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > On Dec 2, 4:07=3DA0am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 02:31:45 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >India has been ruled by brown people, except for a brief period
> > > > >people
> > > > >but I think this situation will not last beyond a few more decades.
> >
> > > > That may be the politically correct version of history but:
> >
> > > > http://www.richardcassaro.com/tag/aryan-invasion-of-india
> >
> > > All the eurocentric scholars who came up with the aryan invasion of
> > > India nonsense theory have much to answer for. Their conjured
> > > theories, to get funding from the rich and prejudiced bigots who
> > > wanted to keep on robbing browns with a good conscience for them and a
> > > sense of duty for their gullible in-the-field twits, excited the
> > > ardour of the wannabe sorts like Hitler most unduly, with horrendous
> > > consequences.
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > I agree. The AIT has been shown to be invalid over and over again.
> >
> > > > >but I think this situation will not last beyond a few more decades.
> >
> > > > That may be the politically correct version of history but:
> >
> > > > http://www.richardcassaro.com/tag/aryan-invasion-of-india
> >
> > > All the eurocentric scholars who came up with the aryan invasion of
> > > India nonsense theory have much to answer for. Their conjured
> > > theories, to get funding from the rich and prejudiced bigots who
> > > wanted to keep on robbing browns with a good conscience for them and a
> > > sense of duty for their gullible in-the-field twits, excited the
> > > ardour of the wannabe sorts like Hitler most unduly, with horrendous
> > > consequences.
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > I agree. The AIT has been shown to be invalid over and over again.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.jai-maharaj
>
> Indeed. No self-respecting Indian believes it, though it is forced
> down their throats in the school curriculum, still.
I don't recall what my first school history book (in
> > Om Shanti
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.jai-maharaj
>
> Indeed. No self-respecting Indian believes it, though it is forced
> down their throats in the school curriculum, still.
Hindi) said about a so-called Aryan invasion, but what I
learned from my parents and grandparents at home
indicated no such invasion in our past. Archeological
evidence contradicts the Aryan Invasion Theory (AIT). The
following post is from 16 years ago:
[ Subject: Myth of Aryan Invasion
[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
[ Date: 13 Jul 1996 00:00:00 UTC
[The following article written by David Frawley appeared
in "The India Times." David Frawley, a well-known Vedic
scholar, is the director of the American Institute of
Vedic Studies in santa Fe, New Mexico. Those interested
in this subject may refer to his book "Gods, Sages and
Kings: Vedic Secrets of Ancient Civilization."]
THE MYTH OF THE ARYAN INVASION OF INDIA
By David Frawley
One of the main ideas used to interpret -- and generally
devalue -- the ancient history of India is the theory of
the Aryan invasion. According to this account, India was
invaded and conquered by nomadic light-skinned
Indo-European tribes from Central Asia around 1500-100
BCE, who overthrew an earlier and more advanced
dark-skinned Dravidian civilization from which they took
most of what later became Hindu culture. This so-called
pre-Aryan civilization is said to be evidenced by the
large urban ruins of what has been called the "Indus
valley culture" (as most of its initial sites were on
the Indus river). The war between the powers of light
and darkness, a prevalent idea in ancient Aryan Vedic
scriptures, was thus interpreted to refer to this war
between light and dark-skinned peoples. The Aryan
invasion theory thus turned the "Vedas", the original
scriptures of ancient India and the Indo-Aryans, into
little more than primitive poems of uncivilized
plunderers.
This idea -- totally foreign to the history of India,
whether north or south -- has become almost an
unquestioned truth in the interpretation of ancient
history Today, after nearly all the reasons for its
supposed validity have been refuted, even major Western
scholars are at last beginning to call it in question.
In this article we will summarize the main points that
have arisen. This is a complex subject that I have dealt
with in depth in my book "Gods, Sages and Kings: Vedic
Secrets of Ancient Civilization", for those interested
in further examination of the subject.
The Indus valley culture was pronounced pre-Aryans for
several reasons that were largely part of the cultural
milieu of nineteenth century European thinking As
scholars following Max Mullar had decided that the
Aryans came into India around 1500 BCE, since the Indus
valley culture was earlier than this, they concluded
that it had to be pre-Aryan. Yet the rationale behind
the late date for the Vedic culture given by Muller was
totally speculative. Max Muller, like many of the
Christian scholars of his era, believed in Biblical
chronology. This placed the beginning of the world at
400 BCE and the flood around 2500 BCE. Assuming to those
two dates, it became difficult to get the Aryans in
India before 1500 BCE.
Muller therefore assumed that the five layers of the
four "Vedas" and "Upanishads" were each composed in 200
year periods before the Buddha at 500 BCE. However,
there are more changes of language in Vedic Sanskrit
itself than there are in classical Sanskrit since
Panini, also regarded as a figure of around 500 BCE, or
a period of 2500 years. Hence it is clear that each of
these periods could have existed for any number of
centuries and that the 200 year figure is totally
arbitrary and is likely too short a figure.
It was assumed by these scholars -- many of whom were
also Christian missionaries unsympathetic to the "Vedas"
-- that the Vedic culture was that of primitive nomads
from Central Asia. Hence they could not have founded any
urban culture like that of the Indus valley. The only
basis for this was a rather questionable interpretation
of the "Rig Veda" that they made, ignoring the
sophisticated nature of the culture presented within it.
Meanwhile, it was also pointed out that in the middle of
the second millennium BCE, a number of Indo-European
invasions apparently occured in the Middle East, wherein
Indo-European peoples -- the Hittites, Mittani and
Kassites -- conquered and ruled Mesopotamia for some
centuries. An Aryan invasion of India would have been
another version of this same movement of Indo-European
peoples. On top of this, excavators of the Indus valley
culture, like Wheeler, thought they found evidence of
destruction of the culture by an outside invasion
confirming this.
The Vedic culture was thus said to be that of primitive
nomads who came out of Central Asia with their
horse-drawn chariots and iron weapons and overthrew the
cities of the more advanced Indus valley culture, with
their superior battle tactics. It was pointed out that
no horses, chariots or iron was discovered in Indus
valley sites.
This was how the Aryan invasion theory formed and has
remained since then. Though little has been discovered
that confirms this theory, there has been much hesitancy
to question it, much less to give it up.
Further excavations discovered horses not only in Indus
Valley sites but also in pre-Indus sites. The use of the
horse has thus been proven for the whole range of
ancient Indian history. Evidence of the wheel, and an
Indus seal showing a spoked wheel as used in chariots,
has also been found, suggesting the usage of chariots.
Moreover, the whole idea of nomads with chariots has
been challenged. Chariots are not the vehicles of
nomads. Their usage occured only in ancient urban
cultures with much flat land, of which the river plain
of north India was the most suitable. Chariots are
totally unsuitable for crossing mountains and deserts,
as the so-called Aryan invasion required.
That the Vedic culture used iron -- and must hence date
later than the introduction of iron around 1500 BCE --
revolves around the meaning of the Vedic term "ayas",
interpreted as iron. "Ayas" in other Indo-European
languages like Latin or German usually means copper,
bronze or ore generally, not specially iron. There is no
reason to insist that in such earlier Vedic times,
"ayas" meant iron, particularly since other metals are
not mentioned in the "Rig Veda" (except gold that is
much more commonly referred to than ayas). Moreover, the
"Atharva Veda" and "Yajur Veda" speak of different
colors of "ayas" (such as red and black), showing that
it was a generic term. Hence it is clear that "ayas"
generally meant metal and not specifically iron.
Moreover, the enemies of the Vedic people in the "Rig
Veda" also use ayas, even for making their cities, as do
the Vedic people themselves. Hence there is nothing in
Vedic literture to show that either the Vedic culture
was an iron-based culture or that there enemies were
not.
The "Rig Veda" describes its Gods as "destroyers of
cities". This was used also to regard the Vedic as a
primitive non-urban culture that destroys cities and
urban civilization. However, there are also many verses
in the "Rig Veda" that speak of the Aryans as having
having cities of their own and being protected by cities
upto a hundred in number. Aryan Gods like Indra, Agni,
Saraswati and the Adityas are praised as being like a
city. Many ancient kings, including those of Egypt and
Mesopotamia, had titles like destroyer or conquerer of
cities. This does not turn them into nomads. Destruction
of cities also happens in modern wars; this does not
make those who do this nomads. Hence the idea of Vedic
culture as destroying but not building the cities is
based upon ignoring what the Vedas actually say about
their own cities.
Further excavation revealed that the Indus Valley
culture was not destroyed by outside invasion, but
according to internal causes and, most likely, floods.
Most recently a new set of cities has been found in
India (like the Dwaraka and Bet Dwaraka sites by S.R.
Rao and the National Institute of Oceanography in India)
which are intermidiate between those of the Indus
culture and later ancient India as visited by the
Greeks. This may eliminate the so-called dark age
following the presumed Aryan invasion and shows a
continuous urban occupation in India back to the
beginning of the Indus culture.
The interpretation of the religion of the Indus Valley
culture -- made incidentlly by scholars such as Wheeler
who were not religious scholars much less students of
Hinduism -- was that its religion was different than the
Vedic and more likely the later Shaivite religion.
However, further excavations -- both in Indus Valley
site in Gujarat, like Lothal, and those in Rajsthan,
like Kalibangan -- show large number of fire altars like
those used in the Vedic religion, along with bones of
oxen, potsherds, shell jewelry and other items used in
the rituals described in the "Vedic Brahmanas". Hence
the Indus Valley culture evidences many Vedic practices
that can not be merely coincidental. That some of its
practices appeared non-Vedic to its excavators may also
be attributed to their misunderstanding or lack of
knowledge of Vedic and Hindu culture generally, wherein
Vedism and Shaivism are the same basic tradition.
We must remember that ruins do not necessarily have one
interpretation. Nor does the ability to discover ruins
necessarily gives the ability to interpret them
correctly.
The Vedic people were thought to have been a
fair-skinned race like the Europeans owing to the Vedic
idea of a war between light and darkness, and the Vedic
people being presented as children of light or children
of the sun. Yet this idea of a war between light and
darkness exists in most ancient cultures, including the
Persian and the Egyptian. Why don't we interpret their
scriptures as a war between light and dark-skinned
people? It is purely a poetic metaphor, not a cultural
statement. Moreover, no real traces of such a race are
found in India.
Anthropologists have observed that the present
population of Gujarat is composed of more or less the
same ethnic groups as are noticed at Lothal in 2000 BCE.
Similarly, the present population of the Punjab is said
to be ethnically the same as the population of Harappa
and Rupar 4000 years ago. Linguistically the present day
population of Gujrat and Punjab belongs to the
Indo-Aryan language speaking group. The only inference
that can be drawn from the anthropological and
linguistic evidences adduced above is that the Harappan
population in the Indus Valley and Gujrat in 2000 BCE
was composed of two or more groups, the more dominent
among them having very close ethnic affinities with the
present day Indo-Aryan speaking population of India.
In other words there is no racial evidence of any such
Indo-Aryan invasion of India but only of a continuity of
the same group of people who traditionally considered
themselves to be Aryans.
There are many points in fact that prove the Vedic
nature of the Indus Valley culture. Further excavation
has shown that the great majority of the sites of the
Indus Valley culture were east, not west of Indus. In
fact, the largest concentration of sites appears in an
area of Punjab and Rajsthan near the dry banks of
ancient Saraswati and Drishadvati rivers. The Vedic
culture was said to have been founded by the sage Manu
between the banks of Saraswati and Drishadvati rivers.
The Saraswati is lauded as the main river (naditama) in
the "Rig Veda" and is the most frequently mentioned in
the text. It is said to be a great flood and to be wide,
even endless in size. Saraswati is said to be "pure in
course from the mountains to the sea". Hence the Vedic
people were well acquainted with this river and regarded
it as their immemorial hoemland.
The Saraswati, as modern land studies now reveal, was
indeed one of the largest, if not the largest river in
India. In early ancient and pre-historic times, it once
drained the Sutlej, Yamuna and the Ganges, whose courses
were much different than they are today. However, the
Saraswati river went dry at the end of the Indus Valley
culture and before the so-called Aryan invasion or
before 1500 BCE. In fact this may have caused the ending
of the Indus culture. How could the Vedic Aryans know of
this river and establish their culture on its banks if
it dried up before they arrived? Indeed the Saraswati as
described in the "Rig Veda" appears to more accurately
show it as it was prior to the Indus Valley culture as
in the Indus era it was already in decline.
Vedic and late Vedic texts also contain interesting
astronomical lore. The Vedic calender was based upon
astronomical sightings of the equinoxes and solstices.
Such texts as "Vedanga Jyotish" speak of a time when the
vernal equinox was in the middle of the Nakshtra Aslesha
(or about 23 degrees 20 minutes Cancer). This gives a
date of 1300 BCE. The "Yajur Veda" and "Atharva Veda"
speak of the vernal equinox in the Krittikas (Pleiades;
early Taurus) and the summer solstice (ayana) in Magha
(early Leo). This gives a date about 2400 BCE. Yet
earlier eras are mentioned but these two have numerous
references to substantiate them. They prove that the
Vedic culture existed at these periods and already had a
sophisticated system of astronomy. Such references were
merely ignored or pronounced unintelligible by Western
scholars because they yielded too early a date for the
"Vedas" than what they presumed, not because such
references did not exist.
Vedic texts like "Shatapatha Brahmana" and "Aitereya
Brahmana" that mention these astronomical references
list a group of 11 Vedic Kings, including a number of
figures of the "Rig Veda", said to have conquered the
region of India from "sea to sea". Lands of the Aryans
are mentioned in them from Gandhara (Afganistan) in the
west to Videha (Nepal) in the east, and south to
Vidarbha (Maharashtra). Hence the Vedic people were in
these regions by the Krittika equinox or before 2400
BCE. These passages were also ignored by Western
scholars and it was said by them that the "Vedas" had no
evidence of large empires in India in Vedic times. Hence
a pattern of ignoring literary evidence or
misinterpreting them to suit the Aryan invasion idea
became prevalent, even to the point of changing the
meaning of Vedic words to suit this theory.
According to this theory, the Vedic people were nomads
in the Punjab, comming down from Central Asia. However,
the "Rig Veda" itself has nearly 100 references to ocean
(samudra), as well as dozens of references to ships, and
to rivers flowing in to the sea. Vedic ancestors like
Manu, Turvasha, Yadu and Bhujyu are flood figures, saved
from across the sea. The Vedic God of the sea, Varuna,
is the father of many Vedic seers and seer families like
Vasishta, Agastya and the Bhrigu seers. To preserve the
Aryan invasion idea it was assumed that the Vedic (and
later sanskrit) term for ocean, samudra, originally did
not mean the ocean but any large body of water,
especially the Indus river in Punjab. Here the clear
meaning of a term in "Rig Veda" and later times --
verified by rivers like Saraswati mentioned by name as
flowing into the sea -- was altered to make the Aryan
invasion theory fit. Yet if we look at the index to
translation of the "Rig Veda" by Griffith for example,
who held to this idea that samudra didn't really mean
the ocean, we find over 70 references to ocean or sea.
If samudra does noe mean ocean why was it traslated as
such? It is therefore without basis to locate Vedic
kings in Central Asia far from any ocean or from the
massive Saraswati river, which form the background of
their land and the symbolism of their hymns.
One of the latest archeological ideas is that the Vedic
culture is evidenced by Painted Grey Ware pottery in
north India, which apears to date around 1000 BCE and
comes from the same region between the Ganges and Yamuna
as later Vedic culture is related to. It is thought to
be an inferior grade of pottery and to be associated
with the use of iron that the "Vedas" are thought to
mention. However it is associated with a pig and rice
culture, not the cow and barley culture of the "Vedas".
Moreover it is now found to be an organic development of
indegenous pottery, not an introduction of invaders.
Painted Grey Ware culture represents an indigenous
cultural development and does not reflect any cultural
intrusion from the West i.e. an Indo-Aryan invasion.
Therefore, there is no archeological evidence
corroborating the fact of an Indo-Aryan invasion.
In addition, the Aryans in the Middle East, most notably
the Hittites, have now been found to have been in that
region atleast as early as 2200 BCE, wherein they are
already mentioned. Hence the idea of an Aryan invasion
into the Middle East has been pushed back some
centuries, though the evidence so far is that the people
of the mountain regions of the Middle East were
Indo-Europeans as far as recorded history can prove.
The Aryan Kassites of the ancient Middle East worshipped
Vedic Gods like Surya and the Maruts, as well as one
named Himalaya. The Aryan Hittites and Mittani signed a
treaty with the name of the Vedic Gods Indra, Mitra,
Varuna and Nasatyas around 1400 BCE. The Hittites have a
treatise on chariot racing written in almost pure
Sanskrit. The Indo-Europeans of the ancient Middle East
thus spoke Indo-Aryan, not Indo-Iranian languages and
thereby show a Vedic culture in that region of the world
as well.
The Indus Valley culture had a form of writing, as
evidenced by numerous seals found in the ruins. It was
also assumed to be non-Vedic and probably Dravidian,
though this was never proved. Now it has been shown that
the majority of the late Indus signs are identical with
those of later Hindu Brahmi and that there is an organic
development between the two scripts. Prevalent models
now suggest an Indo-European base for that language.
It was also assumed that the Indus Valley culture
derived its civilization from the Middle East, probably
Sumeria, as antecedents for it were not found in India.
Recent French excavations at Mehrgarh have shown that
all the antecedents of the Indus Valley culture can be
found within the subcontinent and going back before 6000
BCE.
In short, some Western scholars are beginning to reject
the Aryan invasion or any outside origin for Hindu
civilization.
Current archeological data do not support the existence
of an Indo-Aryan or European invasion into South Asia at
any time in the pre- or protohistoric periods. Instead,
it is possible to document archeologically a series of
cultural changes reflecting indigenous cultural
development from prehistoric to historic periods. The
early Vedic literature describes not a human invasion
into the area, but a fundamental restructuring of
indigenous society. The Indo-Aryan invasion as an
academic concept in 18th and 19th century Europe
reflected the cultural milieu of the period. Linguistic
data were used to validate the concept that in turn was
used to interpret archeological and anthropological
data.
In other words, Vedic literature was interpreted on the
assumption that there was an Aryan invasion. Then
archeological evidence was interpreted by the same
assumption. And both interpretations were then used to
justify each other. It is nothing but a tautology, an
exercise in circular thinking that only proves that if
assuming something is true, it is found to be true!
Another modern Western scholar, Colin Renfrew, places
the Indo-Europeans in Greece as early as 6000 BCE. He
also suggests such a possible early date for their entry
into India.
As far as I can see there is nothing in the Hymns of the
"Rig Veda" which demonstrates that the Vedic-speaking
population was intrusive to the area: this comes rather
from a historical assumption of the "coming of the
Indo-Europeans."
When Wheeler speaks of "the Aryan invasion of the land
of the 7 rivers, the Punjab", he has no warrenty at all,
so far as I can see. If one checks the dozen references
in the "Rig Veda" to the 7 rivers, there is nothing in
them that to me implies invasion: the land of the 7
rivers is the land of the "Rig Veda", the scene of
action. Nor is it implied that the inhabitants of the
walled cities (including the Dasyus) were any more
aboriginal than the Aryans themselves.
Despite Wheeler's comments, it is difficult to see what
is particularly non-Aryan about the Indus Valley
civilization. Hence Renfrew suggests that the Indus
Valley civilization was in fact Indo-Aryan even prior to
the Indus Valley era:
This hypothesis that early Indo-European languages were
spoken in North India with Pakistan and on the Iranian
plateau at the 6th millennium BCE has the merit of
harmonizing symmetrically with the theory for the origin
of the Indo-European languages in Europe. It also
emphasizes the continuity in the Indus Valley and
adjacent areas from the early neolithic through to the
floruit of the Indus Valley civilization.
This is not to say that such scholars appreciate or
understand the "Vedas" -- their work leaves much to be
desired in this respect -- but that it is clear that the
whole edifice built around the Aryan invasion is
beginning to tumble on all sides. In addition, it does
not mean that the "Rig Veda" dates from the Indus Valley
era. The Indus Valley culture resembles that of the
"Yajur Veda" and the reflect the pre-Indus period in
India, when the Saraswati river was more prominent.
The acceptance of such views would create a revolution
in our view of history as shattering as that in science
caused by Einstein's theory of relativity. It would make
ancient India perhaps the oldest, largest and most
central of ancient cultures. It would mean that the
Vedic literary record -- already the largest and oldest
of the ancient world even at a 1500 BCE date -- would be
the record of teachings some centuries or thousands of
years before that. It would mean that the "Vedas" are
our most authentic record of the ancient world. It would
also tend to validate the Vedic view that the
Indo-Europeans and other Aryan peoples were migrants
from India, not that the Indo-Aryans were invaders into
India. Moreover, it would affirm the Hindu tradition
that the Dravidians were early offshoots of the Vedic
people through the seer Agastya, and not unaryan
peoples.
In closing, it is important to examine the social and
political implications of the Aryan invasion idea:
* First, it served to divide India into a northern Aryan
and southern Dravidian culture which were made hostile
to each other. This kept the Hindus divided and is still
a source of social tension.
* Second, it gave the British an excuse in their
conquest of India. They could claim to be doing only
what the Aryan ancestors of the Hindus had previously
done millennia ago.
* Third, it served to make Vedic culture later than and
possibly derived from Middle Eastern cultures. With the
proximity and relationship of the latter with the Bible
and Christianity, this kept the Hindu religion as a
sidelight to the development of religion and
civilization to the West.
* Fourth, it allowed the sciences of India to be given a
Greek basis, as any Vedic basis was largely disqualified
by the primitive nature of the Vedic culture.
This discredited not only the "Vedas" but the
genealogies of the "Puranas" and their long list of the
kings before the Buddha or Krishna were left without any
historical basis. The "Mahabharata", instead of a civil
war in which all the main kings of India participated as
it is described, became a local skirmish among petty
princes that was later exaggerated by poets. In short,
it discredited the most of the Hindu tradition and
almost all its ancient literature. It turned its
scriptures and sages into fantacies and exaggerations.
This served a social, political and economical purpose
of domination, proving the superiority of Western
culture and religion. It made the Hindus feel that their
culture was not the great thing that their sages and
ancestors had said it was. It made Hindus feel ashamed
of their culture -- that its basis was neither
historical nor scientific. It made them feel that the
main line of civilization was developed first in the
Middle East and then in Europe and that the culture of
India was peripheral and secondary to the real
development of world culture.
Such a view is not good scholarship or archeology but
merely cultural imperialism. The Western Vedic scholars
did in the intellectual spehere what the British army
did in the political realm -- discredit, divide and
conquer the Hindus. In short, the compelling reasons for
the Aryan invasion theory were neither literary nor
archeological but political and religious -- that is to
say, not scholarship but prejudice. Such prejudice may
not have been intentional but deep-seated political and
religious views easily cloud and blur our thinking.
It is unfortunate that this this approach has not been
questioned more, particularly by Hindus. Even though
Indian Vedic scholars like Dayananda saraswati, Bal
Gangadhar Tilak and Arobindo rejected it, most Hindus
today passively accept it. They allow Western, generally
Christian, scholars to interpret their history for them
and quite naturally Hinduism is kept in a reduced role.
Many Hindus still accept, read or even honor the
translations of the "Vedas" done by such Christian
missionary scholars as Max Muller, Griffith, Monier-
Williams and H. H. Wilson. Would modern Christians
accept an interpretation of the Bible or Biblical
history done by Hindus aimed at converting them to
Hinduism? Universities in India also use the Western
history books and Western Vedic translations that
propound such views that denigrate their own culture and
country.
The modern Western academic world is sensitive to
critisms of cultural and social biases. For scholars to
take a stand against this biased interpretation of the
"Vedas" would indeed cause a reexamination of many of
these historical ideas that can not stand objective
scrutiny. But if Hindu scholars are silent or passively
accept the misinterpretation of their own culture, it
will undoubtly continue, but they will have no one to
blame but themselves. It is not an issue to be taken
lightly, because how a culture is defined historically
creates the perspective from which it is viewed in the
modern social and intellectual context. Tolerance is not
in allowing a false view of one's own culture and
religion to be propagated without question. That is
merely self-betrayal.
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References
1. "Atherva Veda" IX.5.4.
2. "Rig Veda" II.20.8 & IV.27.1.
3. "Rig Veda" VII.3.7; VII.15.14; VI.48.8; I.166.8;
I.189.2; VII.95.1.
4. S.R. Rao, "Lothal and the Indus Valley
Civilization", Asia Publishing House, Bombay, India,
1973, p. 37, 140 & 141.
5. Ibid, p. 158.
6. "Manu Samhita" II.17-18.
7. Note "Rig Veda" II.41.16; VI.61.8-13; I.3.12.
8. "Rig Veda" VII.95.2.
9. Studies from the post-graduate Research Institute of
Deccan College, Pune, and the Central Arid Zone Research
Institute (CAZRI), Jodhapur. Confirmed by use of MSS
(multi-spectral scanner) and Landsat Satellite
photography. Note MLBD Newsletter (Delhi, India: Motilal
Banarasidass), Nov. 1989. Also Sriram Sathe, "Bharatiya
Historiography", Itihasa Sankalana Samiti, Hyderabad,
India, 1989, pp. 11-13.
10. "Vedanga Jyotisha of Lagadha", Indian National
Science Academy, Delhi, India, 1985, pp 12-13.
11. "Aitareya Brahmana", VIII.21-23; "Shatapat
Brahmana", XIII.5.4.
12. R. Griffith, "The Hymns of the Rig Veda", Motilal
Banarasidas, Delhi, 1976.
13. J. Shaffer, "The Indo-Aryan invasions: Cultural
Myth and Archeological Reality", from J. Lukas(Ed), "The
people of South Asia", New York, 1984, p. 85.
14. T. Burrow, "The Proto-Indoaryans", Journal of Royal
Asiatic Society, No. 2, 1973, pp. 123-140.
15. G. R. Hunter, "The Script of Harappa and
Mohenjodaro and its connection with other scripts",
Kegan Paul, Trench, Trubner & Co., London, 1934. J.E.
Mitchiner, "Studies in the Indus Valley Inscriptions",
Oxford & IBH, Delhi, India, 1978. Also the work of
Subhash Kak as in "A Frequency Analysis of the Indus
Script", Cryptologia, July 1988, Vol XII, No 3; "Indus
Writing", The Mankind Quarterly, Vol 30, No 1 & 2,
Fall/Winter 1989; and "On the Decipherment of the Indus
Script - A Preliminary Study of its connection with
Brahmi", Indian Journal of History of Science,
22(1):51-62 (1987). Kak may be close to deciphering the
Indus Valley script into a Sanskrit like or Vedic
language.
16. J.F. Jarrige and R.H. Meadow, "The Antecedents of
Civilization in the Indus Valley", Scientific American,
August 1980.
17. C. Renfrew, "Archeology and Language", Cambridge
University Press, New York, 1987.
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Topaz
Dec 2, 2012, 6:19:13 AM12/2/12
to
On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 19:23:54 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Brown people can look like whites, asians blacks, etc. to various
>degrees. The point is that for his brown skin King Tut would not have
>been allowed in whites-only racist-imperialist establishments like
>clubs, caucuses, etc.
>
Here is a sculpture of a scribe from the Old Kingdom:
<banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Brown people can look like whites, asians blacks, etc. to various
>degrees. The point is that for his brown skin King Tut would not have
>been allowed in whites-only racist-imperialist establishments like
>clubs, caucuses, etc.
>
http://theopenacademy.com/content/lecture-1-seated-scribe-c2620-2500-bce
King Tut was from the New Kingdom. Of course there were more brown
people in the New Kingdom. Great civilizations start out White, then
race mix, then die.
Topaz
Dec 2, 2012, 6:31:15 AM12/2/12
to
On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 19:33:53 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>All the eurocentric scholars who came up with the aryan invasion of
>India nonsense theory have much to answer for. Their conjured
>theories, to get funding from the rich and prejudiced bigots who
>wanted to keep on robbing browns with a good conscience for them and a
>sense of duty for their gullible in-the-field twits, excited the
>ardour of the wannabe sorts like Hitler most unduly, with horrendous
>consequences.
>
The PC scholars who deny that White people travelled outside of Europe
<banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>All the eurocentric scholars who came up with the aryan invasion of
>India nonsense theory have much to answer for. Their conjured
>theories, to get funding from the rich and prejudiced bigots who
>wanted to keep on robbing browns with a good conscience for them and a
>sense of duty for their gullible in-the-field twits, excited the
>ardour of the wannabe sorts like Hitler most unduly, with horrendous
>consequences.
>
must admit that India today is not prosperous. White countries and
Japan are the most advanced. Black countries are the least advanced.
Topaz
Dec 2, 2012, 6:33:30 AM12/2/12
to
On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 03:41:55 GMT, use...@mantra.com and/or
>I agree. The AIT has been shown to be invalid over and over again.
>
No doubt this AIT has never said anything but he politically correct.
>
Annie
Dec 2, 2012, 11:14:07 AM12/2/12
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Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:vfcmb8loidgn7fl8t...@4ax.com:
> King Tut was from the New Kingdom. Of course there were more brown
> people in the New Kingdom. Great civilizations start out White, then
> race mix, then die.
...only to leave us with morons like you, Alex - the dregs of a failing
civilization. We can only hope that you follow these "Great civilizations"
and die soon.
news:vfcmb8loidgn7fl8t...@4ax.com:
> King Tut was from the New Kingdom. Of course there were more brown
> people in the New Kingdom. Great civilizations start out White, then
> race mix, then die.
civilization. We can only hope that you follow these "Great civilizations"
and die soon.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Dec 2, 2012, 1:30:26 PM12/2/12
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Forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
[ Subject: Fwd: Aryan Invasion Theory
[ From: S. Kalyanaraman
[ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006
Thanks to Anand Bulusu for pointing to this painting in
Bhimbhetka caves. The painting dated to circa 3000 BCE
shows horses. So, the horses were indigenous to Bharatam.
Equus caballus did NOT have to be imported into the lives
of Bhimbhetka cave dwellers.
http://www.art-and-archaeology.com/india/bhi4.html
More pictures at
http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/mleccha/hurrian01.htm
See spoked-wheel chariots on cave paintings:
http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/ratha4.htm
http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/ratha1.htm
Kosambi calls this painting of the dark hero of the yadus
weilding a chakra as a charioteer.
- k
I recently came across a website
http://www.art-and-archaeology.com/india/bhi4.html
with a photo of a cave painting from Bhimbetka in MP.
This painting was made by vanavasis and is dated 3000
BCE. It explicitly shows several horse riders. The
website mentions that since the painting has horses and
since aryans are supposed to have brought horses to India
after 1500BC, the dating process itself must be wrong!
However, this painting itself and its estimated date of
3000BC can be used as yet another proof to counter aryan
invasion theory (if it is not yet being used). Please
show this to someone working on aryan invasion theory, in
case they have not noticed this painting yet.
- -
Anand Bulusu
End of forwarded message from S. Kalyanaraman
Arindam Banerjee
Dec 2, 2012, 4:54:56 PM12/2/12
to
On Dec 2, 3:37 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
From Std. 4-6 we were taught history from the text book by L.
Mukherjee. R C Mazumder et al in their celebrated textbook for higher
levels have stressed upon the AIT, quoting western historians, but
they also mention in a few lines that there is a minority view that
the IVC is autochthonous, not derived from the Middle East thus.
Anyway this is not my subject, and I don't have that text with me
now. Still, I have no doubt that we were taught AIT in school, and my
children too have learnt that in their history lessons in Australia.
I will hold that Indians will be free really when the AIT is abolished
from their school history textbooks. Given the enormous need for the
AIT from the Dalits et al, I doubt if that will happen soon, if ever.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article
> <cb2b82f4-57d8-4745-b957-7f0b4d863...@q5g2000pbk.googlegroups.com>,
> In article
Mukherjee. R C Mazumder et al in their celebrated textbook for higher
levels have stressed upon the AIT, quoting western historians, but
they also mention in a few lines that there is a minority view that
the IVC is autochthonous, not derived from the Middle East thus.
Anyway this is not my subject, and I don't have that text with me
now. Still, I have no doubt that we were taught AIT in school, and my
children too have learnt that in their history lessons in Australia.
I will hold that Indians will be free really when the AIT is abolished
from their school history textbooks. Given the enormous need for the
AIT from the Dalits et al, I doubt if that will happen soon, if ever.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Arindam Banerjee
Dec 2, 2012, 5:11:06 PM12/2/12
to
On Dec 2, 10:19 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 19:23:54 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 19:23:54 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Brown people can look like whites, asians blacks, etc. to various
> >degrees. The point is that for his brown skin King Tut would not have
> >been allowed in whites-only racist-imperialist establishments like
> >clubs, caucuses, etc.
>
> Here is a sculpture of a scribe from the Old Kingdom:
>
> http://theopenacademy.com/content/lecture-1-seated-scribe-c2620-2500-bce
Did not open. I suppose if he was but a scribe, he could have been an
>
> >Brown people can look like whites, asians blacks, etc. to various
> >degrees. The point is that for his brown skin King Tut would not have
> >been allowed in whites-only racist-imperialist establishments like
> >clubs, caucuses, etc.
>
> Here is a sculpture of a scribe from the Old Kingdom:
>
> http://theopenacademy.com/content/lecture-1-seated-scribe-c2620-2500-bce
immigrant or slave.
>
> King Tut was from the New Kingdom. Of course there were more brown
> people in the New Kingdom. Great civilizations start out White,
There is no evidence for this from Mesopotamia, Egypt, India, China,
> King Tut was from the New Kingdom. Of course there were more brown
> people in the New Kingdom. Great civilizations start out White,
Inca, etc.
then
> race mix, then die.
die or diminish or get perverted, with their internal problems and
external jealousies.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee.
Arindam Banerjee
Dec 3, 2012, 6:09:21 AM12/3/12
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On Dec 3, 5:30 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Great! A US gentleman has recently unlocked the IVC script by doing
what was previously taboo, that is, assuming they spoke a Sanskritic
language at the time. He posted his work, gave links, etc. and I
found his work convincing.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <cb2b82f4-57d8-4745-b957-7f0b4d863...@q5g2000pbk.googlegroups.com>,
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
>
>
> > In article
what was previously taboo, that is, assuming they spoke a Sanskritic
language at the time. He posted his work, gave links, etc. and I
found his work convincing.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Arindam Banerjee
Dec 3, 2012, 6:21:20 AM12/3/12
to
On Dec 2, 10:31 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 19:33:53 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 19:33:53 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >All the eurocentric scholars who came up with the aryan invasion of
> >India nonsense theory have much to answer for. Their conjured
> >theories, to get funding from the rich and prejudiced bigots who
> >wanted to keep on robbing browns with a good conscience for them and a
> >sense of duty for their gullible in-the-field twits, excited the
> >ardour of the wannabe sorts like Hitler most unduly, with horrendous
> >consequences.
>
> The PC scholars who deny that White people travelled outside of Europe
> must admit that India today is not prosperous.
But why should Nazis use Jewish values (money, as you indicate) to
> >All the eurocentric scholars who came up with the aryan invasion of
> >India nonsense theory have much to answer for. Their conjured
> >theories, to get funding from the rich and prejudiced bigots who
> >wanted to keep on robbing browns with a good conscience for them and a
> >sense of duty for their gullible in-the-field twits, excited the
> >ardour of the wannabe sorts like Hitler most unduly, with horrendous
> >consequences.
>
> The PC scholars who deny that White people travelled outside of Europe
> must admit that India today is not prosperous.
make judgments? Was Hitler prosperous? Were the Germans prosperous
before Hitler took over? Are you sure you are not a Jew pretending to
be a Nazi?
> White countries and
> Japan are the most advanced.
literature, mythology, customs, rituals, history, humour, handicrafts,
tolerance, diversities, languages, grammars, festivals, storytelling,
social structures, human relationships, kindness to animals meaning
vegetarianism, honour in warfare, shame, idealism, the deepest
creativity, genuine faith in the Divine, spirituality etc etc etc as
compared to Indians.
> Black countries are the least advanced.
Unlike the whites, they needed not to turn pirates, thus rob and
demean others, as they were satisfied with what they had. The racist
whites you adore were really very very poor devils, for they had to go
way way out to rob others, demean them, etc.
Cheers,
Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, King of the Qs.
Topaz
Dec 3, 2012, 7:37:27 PM12/3/12
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There is no Escape!
By David Duke
There is no escape from the terror of the future.
You can run away for a while.
But the terror will catch up to you.
It will destroy you and everything you love.
No, I am not talking about a new Hollywood horror movie. I am talking
about America. America is changing from the land of our forefathers to
a place where we are no longer at home in spirit, and where our
families are no longer safe in their own homes.
New Orleans has become increasingly like Haiti since the 1960's Civil
Rights movement integrated the schools. Since then, White civil rights
have steadily disappeared.
First the schools deteriorated into cesspools of violence, drugs,
ignorance, barbarity and venereal disease. Blacks always had access to
public schools, but now, almost all Whites were driven from them. They
went from a majority, to less than four percent today. Whites were
driven from the buses and streetcars. In the buses where Blacks once
rode in the back, now Whites dare not ride at all! To do so is just
too dangerous. Friendly and tidy White neighborhoods discovered the
true joys of forced racial integration: junk cars, prostitutes and
drug dealers on the streets. The only Whites remaining in many
neighborhoods fearfully live now behind bars in homes that have become
reverse jails meant to keep the criminals out.
Black political power transformed New Orleans into a corrupt Black
banana republic. Taxes went up, services went down. The condition of
the streets wrecks the cars. Housing projects are so strewn with trash
they look as though they belong in a Third World Country. Rape, murder
and robbery are daily occurrences in the same city where I could once
walk anywhere as a child. Of course, traditional American values and
culture are gone now also. America founding fathers names such as
George Washington's are removed from schools by the Black school board
because he is, "an immoral example for the children." Kwanzaa, a Black
pagan celebration, has replaced Christmas celebrations in schools.
For the last forty years, Whites have steadily fled the city of New
Orleans. They left thousands of the beautiful and stately homes; many
of the beautiful, oak-lined boulevards; and the intangible history and
charm of what was once America's most romantic city. Now its old charm
can only be found in a few heavily policed areas that the tourists
visit or where the very richest live. Yet, frequently a tourist will
veer from the protected areas and find themselves robbed, raped, or
murdered by denizens that would be more at home in the most primitive
tribes of Africa.
The White refugees first fled mostly to Jefferson Parish, a White
redoubt where they could regain the semblance of a normal life. But,
then, Jefferson began its demographic darkening, so the Whites again
packed up their belongings once more and moved even further away. Some
ended up across Lake Ponchartrain, willing to drive three hours a day
to get to and from work, all so their families would be safe.
Some even pretended that they came to North Shore for the trees. But
they certainly didn't move to the now Black areas in New Orleans where
flourish live oaks, some of the most magnificent and beautiful trees
in the world. Most of the new North Shore residents knew, at least
somewhere deep inside, why they fled and why they came to the area
where I now live. I was candid about my choice of Mandeville. I like
the demographics. I like being among my own kind, living in the kind
of clean and beautiful environment our people create. In the last
election for U.S. Congress, I warned my neighbors on the North Shore.
I told them that conditions of New Orleans would eventually come to
them unless a great political change happened in America. A week ago,
a graphic example of what I had warned them about, occurred.
Just a mile from where I live and work, in a subdivision called
Woodridge, a beautiful 25-year-old mother of four, Samantha Jaume, was
brutally murdered in her home by a Black intruder who had followed her
home from a shopping center. He apparently wanted to steal her new
vehicle. The quick thinking of her seven-year-old son, Jason, almost
saved his mother and probably prevented the murder of his sisters and
himself. He hid himself under a desk and called the police.
Samantha lost all of her civil rights including her right to live. Her
husband's civil rights were also violated, and her four children
suffered loss of their Civil Rights more than any Black person in the
1960's who had to use separate water fountains. This family lost wife
and mother for the rest of their lives. If you want to know the true
cost of integration, it is White lives. If Mandeville were truly the
White area so many seek, Samantha would still be alive. Do we dare to
discuss the other hundreds of victims who have suffered a similar fate
over the years on the North Shore? Or the millions of White victims of
Black crime across America. And, it can only get worse. When the North
Shore population goes the way of New Orleans, Jefferson, and of the
new America of the 21st century, the loss of Samantha will be replayed
so many times that Whites will become refugees once more. But, where
will they go? Massive non-white immigration, differential birthrates,
and intermarriage will make our people a rapidly shrinking minority.
Our racial enemies will not stop their darkening of America until
there is no refuge for our people, only annihilation.
This is no movie. This is real life. There is no escape from the
coming terror. It is time we turn around and fight. We must wrest
control of our political system from those who would obliterate our
people. It is too late for Mrs. Samantha Jaume, but not too late for
her children, and for our children if we begin our road back today. My
life is consecrated to that task. How about yours?
Visit our website at www.whitecivilrights.com
Topaz
Dec 3, 2012, 7:38:58 PM12/3/12
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Here is part of David Duke's newsletter:
"Entering my old neighborhood of Gentilly Woods in New Orleans had
a profound effect upon me. My once tidy and well-kept neighborhood was
now mostly Black and disheveled. It once sported many homes that
seemed to always have a fresh-painted look. Now they were adorned with
peeling paint an unkempt lawns of weeds and trash. In talking to some
old holdouts in the neighborhood, they told me that the once rare
burglary, vandalism and assault had now become commonplace. The
diehard White remnants who remained had adapted to the changes and
found a way to endure each indignity and violation the best they
could. The change had been so gradual that they were no longer shocked
by new instances of crime, just resigned to them.
"The streets had scattered groups of hard-featured Black men
standing around dilapidated cars giving hostile stares to an obviously
unknown White person trespassing in their neighborhood.
"Even though it had been many years since my last visit, my
memories became more vivid as I entered the boundaries of the
neighborhood. It seemed as though I had only been away a few scant
hours. Now those memories crashed against the images of the present
causing me to feel off balance. It was akin to visiting a healthy
friend and then after a few short weeks to see him wasting away with
cancer. Afraid that perhaps me recollection was more idealized than it
really was--as soon as I returned home, I ferreted out my old
photographs.
"Those photos clearly portrayed a community even more attractive
than I had remembered. Well-kept homes filled the album, often
accented with blooming flowers and finely trimmed shrubbery, sidewalks
edged closely, and many homes had a fresh paint look. Polished autos
dotted the clean streets. Even more dramatic were the Tom Sawyer and
Becky Thatcher-like bright faces of the children with whom I spent so
many happy hours of childhood.
"In my time they were the ruddy faces that filled our streets
yards and parks. They were all gone now, replaced by dark, angry
teenagers, with scarred skin and boomboxes; often with pistols and
crack in their pockets, menacing the streets where children now fear
to venture. A picture repeated, I believe, all over the United States
of America. For the current White residents of Gentilly Woods their
story is much like the story fo the frog that is put in a pot of warm
water while the temperature is slowly increased until the poor
creature is boiling and it is too late to save itself. Is the
traditional American already too lulled by the tepid water to realize
what is ahead?
"Amercians can glimpse the future in the inner cities of
America. The political corruption, failing schools, drug problems,
crime, the run down housing and even the trash in the streets- all
hold a preview of the coming attractions of 21st century America. When
all of America is of the same racial proportion as that of the inner
cities, there will be no White infrastructure, and no white cornucopia
of tax revenue mitigating the Third Worldism. Criminals will no longer
be held in check by White police, prosecutors, juries and judges. The
shrinking White tax base will be inadequate to the costs of the
criminal justice system and jails needed to house lawbreakers. The
housing, food, medical care, and schooling of those who cannot provide
their own--will no longer be able to live off the support of the aging
and diminishing European population."
The address for this newsletter is David Duke Report, Box 88,
Covington, LA 70434
http://www.duke.org
Topaz
Dec 3, 2012, 7:51:53 PM12/3/12
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Here are some quotes from the official NSDAP book on the proceedings
of the 1936 Nuremberg Rally by Dr. Walther Schmitt:
Adolf Hitler's double proclamation to the party rally makes clear the
inner National Socialist unity of political accomplishment and
cultural guidance. That alone says more about the National Socialist
movement than all the intellectual analysts could say with a thousand
essays. The combination of politics and culture in the party rally's
program is clear proof of the enormous confidence that fills the
German renewal movement, and which as always spurs it on to still
greater accomplishments. No matter how splendid and triumphant the
political accomplishments discussed in the morning are, come evening
the party reports on it cultural strengths and achievements. It knows
that great political accomplishments also demand great works of art,
and that only these will justify its position in history.
As the Führer has said, National Socialism sees artistic creations as
the highest expression of a nation's being. This view, which breaks
decisively from the past, was expressed in the conclusion of his
speech about the new German cultural era at Nuremberg in 1936: "Art is
the only truly immortal product of human activity."...
Adolf Hitler announced at the conclusion of the 1936 party rally that
it will in the future become a great German Olympic festival: "What
came of the pitiable rallies of our former opponents! Now we see a
great exhibition of the nation in political, military, spiritual,
cultural and economic arenas. The physical activity of the nation must
also be included in the splendid new facilities of the party rally
grounds. It will be a new Olympia, one in modern form and under a
different name!" Once again the Führer revealed in these words the
greatness of an idea which is not a dead teaching, rather part of our
innermost being, an ever living appeal to all sound feelings and to
the creative strength of each German...
We sense that just as Napoleon transformed Paris into the glittering
center of his state with monumental plans, so too the national capital
of Berlin will become a source of pride and greatness for the entire
nation.
It finally would be improper if the artistic level of the ceremonies
themselves were not of a level keeping with their vast new
surroundings. This was evident both in the youth ceremonies and those
of the Labor Service at the 1936 Party Rally of Honor. Their simple
clarity and almost architectural form were a deep expression of the
new German life. The same was true of the powerful oath of political
leaders of the movement, held under the deep black night sky. As Adolf
Hitler was greeted, spotlights suddenly shot up 150 kilometers into
the heavens, creating a dome of light of unimaginable splendor above
the Zeppelin Field. This political roll call of National Socialism
took place under a symphony of flags, light and disciplined columns,
towered over by the marble platform.
Every moment of this party really demonstrated the creative,
constructive will of the National Socialist movement. Everyone in
Nuremberg felt this and was swept away by its force. The spiritual
strength of the party of construction led to an inevitable
confrontation with Jewish-International Bolshevism, whose systematic
work of destruction has brought one nation after another in Europe to
crisis and misery.
As a proud victor, the Führer in his opening proclamation could list
the accomplishments of his government and the movement, which National
Socialism has done in less than four years since it took power. The
battle against unemployment and the large new economic undertakings
are part of a long series of accomplishments that only four years ago
seemed an impossible dream, but today are already part of a history
that National Socialism hardly speaks about any longer. Yet these
great achievements are not the party's crowning glory. More beautiful
and glorious is the educational work of the movement, its building of
a new German man. The accomplishments thus far have never been rivaled
by any previous government in so short a time..
The Führer spoke of the lessons of political development in recent
years. He spoke as well of the experiences that Germany and the
National Socialist movement have had with the destructive Bolshevist
idea. He proclaimed the iron will of the new Germany to drive back
with force any Bolshevist attack. In this moment the Führer of Germany
became the greatest political prophet in all of Europe.
The National Socialists who heard Germany's Führer know that the words
Adolf Hitler spoke in Nuremberg are the result of serious, mature
reflection, careful observation, and irresistable logic. Here speaks a
man who knows better than anyone else the bestial nature and methods
of Bolshevism. His warning and firm bearing were therefore a political
prophecy that will guide the future development of European politics.
The movement in Nuremberg understood. The thanks and jubilation of his
followers doubled as he called up the old iron laws and virtues of the
National Socialist movement to stand up to Bolshevism, hammering them
once more into the hearts of his followers. Our brown army overcame
Jewish-Bolshevist anarchy in Germany, marching under the eagles of the
National Socialist standards and our red battle flags. The spirit that
led the German war for independence against Moscow will make Germany
strong in the future, defeating any Bolshevist attack on Central
Europe. That is the message of Nuremberg.
Joe Cooper
Dec 3, 2012, 8:20:48 PM12/3/12
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Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:ochqb8lnbrvcuf39a...@4ax.com:
>
> There is no Escape!
> By David Duke
There Is No Brain!
By Alex Vangel
--
Obama, What Is Your Plan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUCYlcTvKfs#!
"Good News For the Economy - President Obama Is Out of Town!" (Jay Leno)
news:ochqb8lnbrvcuf39a...@4ax.com:
>
> There is no Escape!
> By David Duke
By Alex Vangel
--
Obama, What Is Your Plan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUCYlcTvKfs#!
"Good News For the Economy - President Obama Is Out of Town!" (Jay Leno)
Arindam Banerjee
Dec 4, 2012, 12:48:36 AM12/4/12
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On the other hand, lots of rich whites and some rich blacks are really
living it up.
Arindam Banerjee
Dec 4, 2012, 1:25:09 AM12/4/12
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On Dec 4, 11:51 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Here are some quotes from the official NSDAP book on the proceedings
> of the 1936 Nuremberg Rally by Dr. Walther Schmitt:
>
> Adolf Hitler's double proclamation to the party rally makes clear the
> inner National Socialist unity of political accomplishment and
> cultural guidance. That alone says more about the National Socialist
> movement than all the intellectual analysts could say with a thousand
> essays. The combination of politics and culture in the party rally's
> program is clear proof of the enormous confidence that fills the
> German renewal movement, and which as always spurs it on to still
> greater accomplishments. No matter how splendid and triumphant the
> political accomplishments discussed in the morning are, come evening
> the party reports on it cultural strengths and achievements. It knows
> that great political accomplishments also demand great works of art,
> and that only these will justify its position in history.
>
> As the F hrer has said, National Socialism sees artistic creations as
> Here are some quotes from the official NSDAP book on the proceedings
> of the 1936 Nuremberg Rally by Dr. Walther Schmitt:
>
> Adolf Hitler's double proclamation to the party rally makes clear the
> inner National Socialist unity of political accomplishment and
> cultural guidance. That alone says more about the National Socialist
> movement than all the intellectual analysts could say with a thousand
> essays. The combination of politics and culture in the party rally's
> program is clear proof of the enormous confidence that fills the
> German renewal movement, and which as always spurs it on to still
> greater accomplishments. No matter how splendid and triumphant the
> political accomplishments discussed in the morning are, come evening
> the party reports on it cultural strengths and achievements. It knows
> that great political accomplishments also demand great works of art,
> and that only these will justify its position in history.
>
> the highest expression of a nation's being. This view, which breaks
> decisively from the past, was expressed in the conclusion of his
> speech about the new German cultural era at Nuremberg in 1936: "Art is
> the only truly immortal product of human activity."...
>
> Adolf Hitler announced at the conclusion of the 1936 party rally that
> it will in the future become a great German Olympic festival: "What
> came of the pitiable rallies of our former opponents! Now we see a
> great exhibition of the nation in political, military, spiritual,
> cultural and economic arenas. The physical activity of the nation must
> also be included in the splendid new facilities of the party rally
> grounds. It will be a new Olympia, one in modern form and under a
> different name!" Once again the F hrer revealed in these words the
> decisively from the past, was expressed in the conclusion of his
> speech about the new German cultural era at Nuremberg in 1936: "Art is
> the only truly immortal product of human activity."...
>
> Adolf Hitler announced at the conclusion of the 1936 party rally that
> it will in the future become a great German Olympic festival: "What
> came of the pitiable rallies of our former opponents! Now we see a
> great exhibition of the nation in political, military, spiritual,
> cultural and economic arenas. The physical activity of the nation must
> also be included in the splendid new facilities of the party rally
> grounds. It will be a new Olympia, one in modern form and under a
> the accomplishments of his government and the movement, which National
> Socialism has done in less than four years since it took power. The
> battle against unemployment and the large new economic undertakings
> are part of a long series of accomplishments that only four years ago
> seemed an impossible dream, but today are already part of a history
> that National Socialism hardly speaks about any longer. Yet these
> great achievements are not the party's crowning glory. More beautiful
> and glorious is the educational work of the movement, its building of
> a new German man. The accomplishments thus far have never been rivaled
> by any previous government in so short a time..
>
> The F hrer spoke of the lessons of political development in recent
> Socialism has done in less than four years since it took power. The
> battle against unemployment and the large new economic undertakings
> are part of a long series of accomplishments that only four years ago
> seemed an impossible dream, but today are already part of a history
> that National Socialism hardly speaks about any longer. Yet these
> great achievements are not the party's crowning glory. More beautiful
> and glorious is the educational work of the movement, its building of
> a new German man. The accomplishments thus far have never been rivaled
> by any previous government in so short a time..
>
> years. He spoke as well of the experiences that Germany and the
> National Socialist movement have had with the destructive Bolshevist
> idea. He proclaimed the iron will of the new Germany to drive back
> with force any Bolshevist attack. In this moment the F hrer of Germany
> National Socialist movement have had with the destructive Bolshevist
> idea. He proclaimed the iron will of the new Germany to drive back
> became the greatest political prophet in all of Europe.
>
> The National Socialists who heard Germany's F hrer know that the words
>
> Adolf Hitler spoke in Nuremberg are the result of serious, mature
> reflection, careful observation, and irresistable logic. Here speaks a
> man who knows better than anyone else the bestial nature and methods
> of Bolshevism. His warning and firm bearing were therefore a political
> prophecy that will guide the future development of European politics.
> The movement in Nuremberg understood. The thanks and jubilation of his
> followers doubled as he called up the old iron laws and virtues of the
> National Socialist movement to stand up to Bolshevism, hammering them
> once more into the hearts of his followers. Our brown army overcame
> Jewish-Bolshevist anarchy in Germany, marching under the eagles of the
> National Socialist standards and our red battle flags. The spirit that
> led the German war for independence against Moscow will make Germany
> strong in the future, defeating any Bolshevist attack on Central
> Europe. That is the message of Nuremberg.
>
> http://www.ihr.org/ http://heretical.com/
>
> http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
Do my eyes deceive me, when I read "Our *brown* army overcame..."
> reflection, careful observation, and irresistable logic. Here speaks a
> man who knows better than anyone else the bestial nature and methods
> of Bolshevism. His warning and firm bearing were therefore a political
> prophecy that will guide the future development of European politics.
> The movement in Nuremberg understood. The thanks and jubilation of his
> followers doubled as he called up the old iron laws and virtues of the
> National Socialist movement to stand up to Bolshevism, hammering them
> once more into the hearts of his followers. Our brown army overcame
> Jewish-Bolshevist anarchy in Germany, marching under the eagles of the
> National Socialist standards and our red battle flags. The spirit that
> led the German war for independence against Moscow will make Germany
> strong in the future, defeating any Bolshevist attack on Central
> Europe. That is the message of Nuremberg.
>
> http://www.ihr.org/ http://heretical.com/
>
> http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
above? Had Hitler continued with such brownness, instead of whiteness,
he would have lived longer and happier and I would have been writing
the most glorious poetry in German.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Topaz
Dec 4, 2012, 9:19:12 PM12/4/12
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"Weep you mothers, whose children will inherit the diverse and
fractured country of America. Do you think that America will be great
once Whites have been displaced, as they have already been
dispossessed? You know better! You know that when you drive through
areas, even at midday, that have already been purged of Whites, you do
not feel safe. Your most feared nightmare is to have your car break
down in one of those areas at night. There is no amount of money that
you would be willing to accept in payment for moving your family into
one of those areas. You say, "Why can't we all just get along?" But
you know in your heart of hearts that we cannot, and we never will.
As you cry for the lost security you have been forced to finally face
up to with the destruction of the World Trade Center, try at the same
time to understand that the foundation for this loss was laid through
the planning, and execution of those plans, occuring within our own
country.
It was the policies of "our" government that supplied these
perpetrators the opportunity to commit the act. They were allowed by
our open borders policy to not only enter this country unhindered, but
to live here as if they belonged.
It was the policies of "our" government that provided the perpetrators
with the motive for the horrendous event that we have all had our
hearts torn over. The people in our government have taken the cause
and the will of the Israeli nation as the cause and the will of the
American nation. We have bombed Israel's enemies, not because they
were our enemies, or because they posed any sort of threat to us, but
simply because it was in Israel's best interest. We have killed nearly
a million Iraqis, in order to further Israel's aims. The total number
of all American soldiers who have ever been killed, in all of our wars
combined, is about a million. We have killed soldiers, women and
children in Iraq in the hundreds of thousands. Why have we done this?
Because it HELPED ISRAEL, not because it helped America. What would
you be willing to do if another nation had bombed and starved your own
children in those kinds of numbers? (Just think what are you willing
to do for having perhaps 5,000 of your people killed on September
11th?) That is what is called motive.
The part that the government is today focusing on the most, is the
weapon. It is the least important part of the equation. If friendly,
and caring people all are wearing guns, we will be safe, even if
completely surrounded by them. However, bare hands will be enough to
end our lives, if we are surrounded by those that hate us. One who is
set upon revenge will always find a weapon.
Societies tend to end up generally in the model of either one or the
other of two possible arrangements: a free country populated by
law-abiding citizens; or a police state that watches each and every
move its controlled and unhappy citizens make.
Our own society was much freer in the 1950s than it is today. It could
afford to be. It was nearly all White, and the citizens nearly all
came from a similar background, and lived by the same ethical
standard. The ones who were not willing to live by that standard were
either ostracized from society, or they were locked up if they broke
the law. The security that was everywhere felt in America then was
infinitely stronger than what is felt today in America. Why? Because
Americans looked alike, thought alike, and were interested in
cooperating in maintaining a safe and prosperous society.
We have been moving rapidly away from a free society towards a police
state, as our actions have become more and more restricted. We can no
longer freely choose who we will hire or fire in our businesses. We
can no longer choose who we are going to live next to, or who our
children will attend school with. We are evermore rigidly controlled
in what we can say, do, and even think. Our children are programmed by
the state to accept concepts that were not approved by the parents,
and now we have young adults who have literally been brainwashed into
thinking that having a society like the White one in the 1950s is
somehow evil. They have been taught that the diverse struggling mess
we have created on our soil today is somehow superior to the White
nation of America that existed when I was a child. That is not
freedom. That is the type of thing that everyone used to condemn the
Soviet Union for. Brainwashing children, against what the parents want
their children to be taught is totalitarianism at its worse, because
it will destroy the roots, and heritage of an entire society, just
like it is doing to America right now. The one thing that could save
us is being programmed right out of our children: pride in who they
are.
Now that the policies of "our" government have created enthusiastic
enemies for our nation, and given those enemies the opportunity to
commit destructive and lethal acts upon our citizens, that same
government continues to perform acts that will increase the enthusiasm
of our enemies for our destruction, and is doing nothing that will
prevent those enemies from coming to our land. It instead is working
towards eliminating more of our freedom, and trying to control
weapons, neither of which will protect us from those who desire so
strongly to kill us, but both of which will make our lives more
miserable.
So, weep mothers of America, the evil is not only continuing, it going
to grow. We are going to lose more of our children and more of our
loved ones, because of what our government is doing. Each day that
passes, the White backbone of America grows smaller, and is displaced
by the non-White invaders an additional amount, adding up to millions
every year.
No one seems to be thinking about the fact that you do not mix clay
and grass in with your concrete when you are laying the foundation of
your house. The foundation of the United States of America has always
been the White people who founded her. It is pure insanity to think
that mixing in other peoples into our society will allow the
foundation to remain as strong as it was before. Plain common sense
told many this fact, before we started changing our land in the 1960s.
Many spoke out against the policies that have since proved to be so
destructive. Today, anyone who would dare to speak out, saying the
very mainstream things that many of our leaders said in the 1950s or
early 1960s said, would be instantly branded a racist and a hater.
Why? Because the people who have been behind this entire process know
that the only hope White America has of ever recovering its strength
and its security, is to return to its all-White composition. That can
never happen as long as those in power have the weapon of smearing
anyone speaking the truth, with the dreaded "racist" label, and while
White Americans are more terrified of being called a "racist" than
they are of having their daughters raped and their sons murdered.
I am completely amazed by people who still email me, calling me a
racist. Do they actually think that is something I am ashamed of?
Obviously they do. They cannot even see the words on my web page! They
only know that what is being said goes against their brainwashing, and
therefore it must be wrong. The very idea that a group of people, who
can control what is being thought by the average citizen in this
fashion, just might not have the welfare of the average White American
at heart, never even enters their mind for a second before it is
rejected. It does not even cross the threshold of their understanding.
They take their propaganda programming as pure truth, and gauge
everything else from it.
Yes, I am a racist, and naturally, so is every other human on earth.
It is clear from simple observation. We see men who are non-White,
applauded in the media for standing up for the needs and wants of
their own races. What is a Black leader other than a pure racist? He
is concerned with the welfare of his own race, over and above all
others. People know this is natural and good. Each race must stand up
for itself if it is to survive.
It has taken a huge amount of propaganda to destroy that natural
tendency in White Americans. Every day you see posters, and
advertisements laden with the propaganda message that diversity is
wonderful. Why is that propaganda necessary? Obviously, it is a
message that does not come naturally to people. It is a concept that
is abnormal, and must therefore be continually forced upon people who
would otherwise think of diversity as it truly is: death to any
society that embraces it. It is in order to kill that natural tendency
to want to live and work with those of your own kind, that the daily
propaganda barrage continues. The poster pictures of White and
non-White hands clasped, push the lie. The billboard photos of happy
people in a group, each of whom is a member of a different race, or a
mixture of races, force the idea home. The slogans telling you to
celebrate the cancer of diversity would hardly be needed if it were
really worthy of celebration.
And while this overwhelming flood of propaganda filth floods our
lives, at the same time, any attempt to run against the current of the
propaganda is attacked aggressively. The natural racist tendencies of
non-Whites are promoted as healthy, and all are demanded to accept
them, and even celebrate them. The natural racist tendencies of
Whites, are called hate, and continually condemned through every media
outlet in existence. This hypocritical, inconsistency slaps the numbed
White Americans every day squarely across the face. But it has been
going on for so long, they think that insult to their intelligence is
perfectly normal. They even join in! They write emails to me calling
me a "RACIST," without realizing that by doing so, they are saying
that I am a healthy White American who is proud of his race and wants
it to continue to exist, and to rule the country it created. They are
so far gone that they don't realized what they are saying. They really
think that giving up their lives, their children, their future, and
their nation to other people is "healthy" and "caring," while fighting
to save your people and your nation is "sick" and "heartless."
I feel sorry for these people. It is very sad that such mind
manipulation could go on for so long in a country as rich and powerful
as this country is. To have this many White Americans be this
confused, after a few decades of mental manipulation, is a frightening
thing to behold. These are the ones who have to one day awaken, or we
will sink into third world suicide.
Mothers of America, cry for your children, for they are doomed by your
own actions. Cry for your nation, that is rotting from the inside out,
because of your attitudes. Cry for daughters and sisters, as they are
being tormented by rape at a rate of 20,000 each year by the
non-Whites in our lands. Cry for the squalor that awaits your
grandchildren and the extinction that awaits theirs. If you do not
change what you are doing, all that will be left to you is to weep, as
all that is dear to you as an American is taken from your unresisting
hands."
http://www.whitefuture.com
Topaz
Dec 4, 2012, 9:23:58 PM12/4/12
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Arindam Banerjee
Dec 4, 2012, 9:26:14 PM12/4/12
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>
> >>http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
>
> >Do my eyes deceive me, when I read "Our *brown* army overcame..."
> >above? Had Hitler continued with such brownness, instead of whiteness,
> >he would have lived longer and happier and I would have been writing
> >the most glorious poetry in German.
>
> The brown shirts, the SA.
Ah well, they had their day!
> >>http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
>
> >Do my eyes deceive me, when I read "Our *brown* army overcame..."
> >above? Had Hitler continued with such brownness, instead of whiteness,
> >he would have lived longer and happier and I would have been writing
> >the most glorious poetry in German.
>
> The brown shirts, the SA.
I need a Genghis Khan for help, not Hitler.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
>
> http://www.ihr.org/ http://heretical.com/
>
> http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com - Hide quoted text -
Topaz
Dec 5, 2012, 5:38:45 PM12/5/12
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 18:26:14 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The brown shirts, the SA.
>
>Ah well, they had their day!
>I need a Genghis Khan for help, not Hitler.
Why They Hate Us
<banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The brown shirts, the SA.
>
>Ah well, they had their day!
>I need a Genghis Khan for help, not Hitler.
by Joseph Sobran
Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so
large as to be almost inexpressible. It's Western
exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the
world to itself. Other races feel like subjects of Western
power long after colonialism, imperialism, and slavery have
disappeared. The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel
not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they
don't grasp what it really means: humiliation. The white
man presents an image of superiority even when he isn't
conscious of it. And superiority excites envy. Destroying
white civilization is the inmost desire of the league of
designated victims we call 'minorities.'
From Sobran's Newsletter, April 1997
Arindam Banerjee
Dec 6, 2012, 1:44:25 AM12/6/12
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On Dec 6, 9:38 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 18:26:14 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 18:26:14 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The brown shirts, the SA.
>
> >Ah well, they had their day!
> >I need a Genghis Khan for help, not Hitler.
>
> Why They Hate Us
> by Joseph Sobran
>
> Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so
> large as to be almost inexpressible.
Well they are having a comparatively good time these days, under the
> >> The brown shirts, the SA.
>
> >Ah well, they had their day!
> >I need a Genghis Khan for help, not Hitler.
>
> Why They Hate Us
> by Joseph Sobran
>
> Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so
> large as to be almost inexpressible.
awesome Jewish identity/supremacy/domination. I take it that the Jews
are considered white by racists in the making of the above statement?
After all Jews bag most of the Nobel prizes.
It's Western
> exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the
> world to itself.
Apart from the two poles and around, other races had been there
before. The Western method for space exploration using rockets is a
joke. Rockets are for fireworks! Western man belives in nonsense
einsteinism, and that is a laugh. In conquest, yes, they have had
success but they have had to leave their former colonies. Israel is
the last bastion of colonialism today, for the Western man it is as
Calais to Queen Anne.
For all their might, they have not exactly been successful in Iraq and
Afghanistan.
Other races feel like subjects of Western
> power long after colonialism, imperialism, and slavery have
> disappeared.
mediocre white woman ruling them. On the other hand the Chinese have
long considered Western powers to be evil foreign devils and kicked
them out as fast as they could.
The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel
> not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they
> don't grasp what it really means: humiliation.
not work so well now except as a uniting factor for the racists
themselves - so following a lie that is past its due date and has no
real value makes them pathetic. Racism was an excuse for practising
slavery, genocide and robbery with a good conscience and for the good
racist like Kipling a sense of purpose, but as you say the old days
are gone.
The white
> man presents an image of superiority even when he isn't
> conscious of it.
provided that be benevolent and not arrogant. The problem happens when
low life pretend to be superior on account of their skin colour.
> And superiority excites envy.
And also admiration.
> Destroying
> white civilization is the inmost desire of the league of
> designated victims we call 'minorities.'
may put them at odds against the worse-off whites, so an anti-
competitive strategy like racism is an opportunistic response for
them.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Topaz
Dec 6, 2012, 7:21:44 PM12/6/12
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 22:44:25 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
<adda...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>Well they are having a comparatively good time these days, under the
>awesome Jewish identity/supremacy/domination. I take it that the Jews
>are considered white by racists in the making of the above statement?
Jews are the mortal enemies of the White race. They are the ones
<adda...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>Well they are having a comparatively good time these days, under the
>awesome Jewish identity/supremacy/domination. I take it that the Jews
>are considered white by racists in the making of the above statement?
behind affirmative action and all the rest of it:
Who's to Blame for the Affirmative Action Fiasco?
By Hugh Murray
Searching for employment in the late 19th century, many Irish
immigrants in America encountered the sign, "NINA" (No Irish Need
Apply). Today, their descendants face much the same discrimination. Of
course, now, it is not limited to the Irish - for in America men are
routinely denied jobs, promotions, contracts and scholarships because
they are of Irish, Italian, English, German or general European
heritage. Worse, not only is this discrimination government sponsored,
it is performed in the name of "Equal Opportunity." How did this come
about? Why do the media prefer to ignore it? Who fostered this
discrimination against white men?
In high school a white boy may be denied entrance into special
programs because he is not a preferred minority; or, in some cases, he
may be denied because he is not a girl. There are scholarships
available, but many cannot be awarded to a white male (for example,
Bill Gates of Microsoft was recently lauded by the media for
establishing a billion-dollar scholarship program - one in which
recipients are restricted to blacks only.) When the teen applies to
university, the administration will admit "basically qualified"
minorities, but reject better-qualified whites. When applying for
jobs, the same discrimination occurs. If the teen finds employment,
special, on-the-job training for promotion may be denied him as it is
reserved for minorities, even if they are lesser qualified and have
been on the job a shorter period of time. Once hired, he may be
required to attend "diversity training" sessions, in which he is
supposed to confess his alleged guilt of racism and sexism.
How did this systematic discrimination arise?
What did it mean to forbid discrimination? From the early days of the
20th century through 1964, most liberals were clear as to what this
meant-show no bias against or preference for a person because of his
race, sex, religion etc. This was the dominant view. But in the debate
over the civil rights bill in 1964 some opponents declared that if
passed, it would lead to, among other things: racial quotas and racial
balance in the workplace, preferences for blacks over whites in
employment, promotion, bank loans etc.
But, in Congress, the debate went otherwise. No senator who favored
the civil rights bill spoke up for quotas, "positive integration,"
racial balance or preferences for minorities above whites. Quite the
contrary.
How then did a law which promised to end discrimination by outlawing
discrimination against any individual, a law that promised preferences
for no group, which agreed to retain testing to reject unqualified
applicants-how was this law subverted into its opposite? Here the role
of Alfred Blumrosen is crucial. Blumrosen was among the zealots
working for the Equal Opportunity Employment Commission who did not
want the agency to function as created.
Alfred Blumrosen was instrumental in this and other shifts. He was a
professor at Rutgers University who became the EEOC's liaison chief
for federal, state and local agencies, and he admitted that his
"creative" reading of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was "contrary to
the plain meaning." But why worry? By 1965 when the Bank of America
instituted quota hiring under a euphemism, "the standard refrain of
the EEO bureaucracies, [was that] affirmative action [AA] had nothing
to do with racial quotas. That was illegal." Unfortunately, that
deceptive refrain is still heard today.
The goal of Sonia Pressman, another ideologue in the EEOC, was "to
document large disparities in employment patterns, [so] that
discriminatory intent might legally be inferred." ...the EEOC sought
to impose quotas while not calling them such because quotas were
clearly illegal. The agency sought to break the law.
Blumrosen and Pressman pushed the EEOC to defy the Civil Rights Act of
1964 by imposing quotas, demanding racial balance in the workplace and
giving preferences to blacks over whites. Essential to the Blumrosen-
Pressman campaign was the collection of statistics to show "disparate
impact," how minorities were underutilized, employed in a smaller
proportion in various occupations to their numbers in the general
population.
Blumrosen was set upon "selectively enforcing" the civil rights act by
using disparate impact theory and proportional representation only
when it affected others. (More accurately, Blumrosen was "selectively
malenforcing" the civil rights law, imposing quotas for
underrepresented blacks, using quotas to curb whites; for women,
against men; but never for gentiles and against Jews.)
Of course, had the EEOC sought to restrict Jews as it has white men,
the storm of protest would have cast "disparate impact" theory into
the dustbin of history. Thus, the role of Blumrosen and his allies in
the media, academia etc., was to create a false target - the
"overrepresented," "privileged" and "oppressive" white male. According
to the EEOC, the statistics proved just that. However, the statistics
proved otherwise. The partial statistics used by Blumrosen were simply
the effort to deflect criticism to another group instead of the one
most overrepresented, privileged and oppressive - his own.
By not asking the religious question on the EEOC questionnaires, the
EEOC created a scapegoat of the white male. Once smeared as
"privileged" and "oppressive," the non-privileged, working-class and
poor whites began to pay the price for the "moral" system of
affirmative action by being legally discriminated against and denied
equal opportunity.
The proportional test, the liberals' test of all tests, when applied
to the religious clause of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, shows Jews to
be the most privileged and oppressive of people in America. The fav-
orite test of liberals reveals white men to be less privileged than
the Jews. Why does not The New York Times, the EEOC, NBC, CBS or ABC
report that statistic? The media remain silent on the issue of Jewish
privilege while simultaneously exposing every time white men are
somewhat overrepresented. Why the silence regarding Jews? A glance at
the ownership of the media just might have something to do with this
disparity in exposing "privilege." And if any individual in the media
dared to expose some Jewish privilege, there would be a thunderous
assault upon that individual's "bigotry." However, daily, reporters
write of white male privilege, but almost no one denounces this anti-
white bigotry.
Once smeared as privileged, the non-privileged middle-class, working-
class, and poor whites pay for the "moral" system of AA by being
legally discriminated against and denied equal opportunity. But then
the history of America since the 1960s is often the record of wealthy
liberals using the law to curb and oppress blue-collar whites, because
the blue-collar folk are deemed privileged, prejudiced and provincial.
Therefore, such blue-collar whites deserve to be passed over in
scholarships, jobs and promotions; the blue-collar crowd should be
shunted aside, and instead the "pets" of the elite should be elevated:
the children of illegal immigrants, of wealthy minorities and the
daughters of rich liberals. And this is done in the name of morality,
fairness, and justice.
In summary, the great hoax concocted by Blumrosen and his
collaborators in the media, academy, and government is "white male
privilege." Most white men are not privileged. Those who are, often
support AA because it is no loss to them - their children will not
require a scholarship, an entry-level job, a position as policeman or
fireman, or a promotion. It is the poor and middle-class whites who,
denied equal opportunity, must pay with thinning wallets and shrunken
dreams for the "morality of diversity" imposed by the wealthy, liberal
elite.
Even if every CEO in America were a white male, that would be no
reason to discriminate against a poor, white teenage boy seeking a
scholarship and give it to a lesser qualified girl or minority. "White
male privilege" is a social construct created by liberals. They have
used their power in government, media, and academia to deny equal
opportunity to white men, to undermine and stigmatize America's
working class, and to immobilize with guilt the white middle class.
America does not suffer from white male privilege and oppression; it
staggers beneath Jewish privilege and oppression.
Excerpted from article found at:
http://www.barnesreview.org/Nov__Dec_2001/Who_s_to_Blame_for_the_Affirma/wh
o_s_to_blame_for_the_affirma.html
>After all Jews bag most of the Nobel prizes.
>Non-Westerners did better explorations, science and also conquests.
>Apart from the two poles and around, other races had been there
>before. The Western method for space exploration using rockets is a
>joke. Rockets are for fireworks! Western man belives in nonsense
>einsteinism, and that is a laugh. In conquest, yes, they have had
>success but they have had to leave their former colonies. Israel is
>the last bastion of colonialism today, for the Western man it is as
>Calais to Queen Anne.
>For all their might, they have not exactly been successful in Iraq and
>Afghanistan.
nasties hold it cardinal they accredit and interpret *everything*.
Nothing has worth or meaning until it's pronounced upon by a generous
scoop of shit in a hate hat. Nothing must be expressed save in jewish
terms. Invaders become undocumented workers. Queers become gays.
Freakins become African-Americans. Attack on Iraq becomes defense of
America. Nothing is legitimate save Big Kike stamp off on it.
BK doesn't like it when a Sheehan steps forward and foghorns facts to
fodder. Instantly, like mosquitoes at twilight, a flock of
bloodthirsty kikes appears, buzzing and sucking and whining. Have you
ever noticed that it is impossible to criticize jews and keep your
character? The jews have literally billions of enemies worldwide, yet
not a single one of them is an honest man of laudable motive. It is
impossible to carry off this charade without controlling the media
and a hell of a lot of other things too. The minute jew-criticism
appears, the ashkenazis and appeaser annies begin the smear. No one
ever opposed a loving kike except invidiously. Smear campaigns are
media control in action. There are other aspects of media control, but
day in day out, making horrible shrieks and gurgles to keep the goyish
herd away from the healthy green fields is the workaday business of
the controllers. Jews determine which issues may be debated, and in
what terms. Jews make up more than fifty percent of the experts on
both sides of these tiny debates. A few vetted goyim are allowed
through to keep up the charade of democratic discussion. The Internet
is the only medium that prevents the illusion of popular conformity
with jewthink being carried off. All that is necessary for jews to
maintain control is to create a congenial if bogus reality through
television and the main dailies, and relentlessly enforce this
orthodoxy through smear campaigns against any who breach it.
The death of a son is one of the few motives strong enough to drive
average goy fodder to breach etiquette and speak truth to kikes. She
must be shut down. How to do that? You can see the jews' uncertainty.
They attack her, at the same time, as both a lefty and a nazi.
Illogical, but in time they'll settle on an approach. Sometimes just
throwing shit and see what sticks is the best way. How dare Sheehan
value her own son more than the interests of Israel?
I say my son died for LIES. George Bush LIED to us and he knew he
was LYING.
And none of the thick rancid honkings Limbaugh and the freeper
patriotards can gainsay it. Remember that bushy came out of manly
Barbara, the wizened maw who asked why she should trouble her
"beautiful mind" about the body bags coming back from Iraq. You know -
the ones you never see, because they have to show you endless pictures
of $440,000-compensated jews being "ethnically cleansed," sniff, yet
again. Only an anti-Semite puts his own life before Israel. The jews
are the one people on earth who routinely are absolved of guilt for
that for which they and they alone are guilty. Isn't that odd?
DaX
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/
>Alas, for brown races like Indians this is the truth. Indians have a
>mediocre white woman ruling them. On the other hand the Chinese have
>long considered Western powers to be evil foreign devils and kicked
>them out as fast as they could.
of interferring with their affairs.
>It really means that what worked in the past very well for them does
>not work so well now except as a uniting factor for the racists
>themselves - so following a lie that is past its due date and has no
>real value makes them pathetic.
the Url below if ya want. http://www.davidduke.com/
Anyway, the guy made an analogy that sums it all up.
He said, lets look at Iceland. They have one of the worlds lowest
crime rates, and have some of the worlds highest test scores.
He then went on to say: Haiti is rich in natural resources, they have
great weather, beaches etc.. Yet its a murder, rape capital of the
world. etc, etc.
He went on to say: If we were to take all of the people from Haiti &
Move them to Iceland, Well, they would soon die.
Take those from Iceland and move them to Haiti and within one
generation Haiti would be paradise on earth.
He explained it better than I did. But you should get the gist of the
Iceland / Haiti analogy. Better yet, listen to the Stockholm speech
and hear it for yourself.."
Tommy
> Racism was an excuse for practising
>slavery, genocide and robbery with a good conscience and for the good
>racist like Kipling a sense of purpose, but as you say the old days
>are gone.
of that.
>I have no problem with genuine superiority of any kind from anywhere,
>provided that be benevolent and not arrogant. The problem happens when
>low life pretend to be superior on account of their skin colour.
nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
people in India.
All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke.
>And also admiration.
>
>No. Minorities only want what the whites already have or had. This
>may put them at odds against the worse-off whites, so an anti-
>competitive strategy like racism is an opportunistic response for
>them.
Most non-Whites are enemies of the White race and your post proves it.
>No. Minorities only want what the whites already have or had. This
>may put them at odds against the worse-off whites, so an anti-
>competitive strategy like racism is an opportunistic response for
>them.
We should obviously have a nation for White people.
Arindam Banerjee
Dec 7, 2012, 3:34:09 AM12/7/12
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On Dec 7, 11:21 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 22:44:25 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 22:44:25 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
> <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >Well they are having a comparatively good time these days, under the
> >awesome Jewish identity/supremacy/domination. I take it that the Jews
> >are considered white by racists in the making of the above statement?
>
> Jews are the mortal enemies of the White race.
But they are of the white race when it comes to using their
> >Well they are having a comparatively good time these days, under the
> >awesome Jewish identity/supremacy/domination. I take it that the Jews
> >are considered white by racists in the making of the above statement?
>
> Jews are the mortal enemies of the White race.
achievements to demonstrate white superiority over non-whites?
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Dec 7, 2012, 2:26:20 PM12/7/12
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In article <1535cbf4-f940-4b78...@kt16g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
We Hindus got 'em beat in the U.S.:
Pew Forum: Income Distribution Within U.S. Religious Groups
http://www.pewforum.org/Income-Distribution-Within-US-Religious-Groups.aspx
Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
Pew Forum: Income Distribution Within U.S. Religious Groups
http://www.pewforum.org/Income-Distribution-Within-US-Religious-Groups.aspx
Topaz
Dec 7, 2012, 6:10:54 PM12/7/12
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 00:34:09 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
<adda...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> Jews are the mortal enemies of the White race.
>
>But they are of the white race when it comes to using their
>achievements to demonstrate white superiority over non-whites?
Jews are superior at money grubbing. They are also intelligent, which
<adda...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> Jews are the mortal enemies of the White race.
>
>But they are of the white race when it comes to using their
>achievements to demonstrate white superiority over non-whites?
is what makes them dangerous. Whatever they are, National Socialism
wants a country without them. And I don't see why any other country
would want them. Jewry is more of a conspiracy against non-Jews than a
religion.
KCOM
Dec 7, 2012, 7:45:01 PM12/7/12
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Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:63t4c8lukofsdm3oh...@4ax.com:
Alex, one thing is clear: Jews (and 99% of the rest of the planet) are
vastly superior to YOU, Alex Vangel, racist asshole.
--
http://tinyurl.com/GROSVENORBLOWS My Biographical Data
http://tinyurl.com/GROSVENORSUCKS My Court Shellacking
My name is William Grosvenor CGA - Certified General Asshole
news:63t4c8lukofsdm3oh...@4ax.com:
Alex, one thing is clear: Jews (and 99% of the rest of the planet) are
vastly superior to YOU, Alex Vangel, racist asshole.
--
http://tinyurl.com/GROSVENORBLOWS My Biographical Data
http://tinyurl.com/GROSVENORSUCKS My Court Shellacking
My name is William Grosvenor CGA - Certified General Asshole
Arindam Banerjee
Dec 8, 2012, 7:23:00 PM12/8/12
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On Dec 7, 11:21 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 22:44:25 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>
>
worthy representative.
Arindam Banerjee
Dec 9, 2012, 7:10:47 PM12/9/12
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On Dec 10, 4:26 am, tooly <rd...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Friday, November 23, 2012 3:04:41 PM UTC-5, Zerkon wrote:
> > Race by definition pivots upon specific physicality. Genetics is usually . The genetic difference between all race groupings, however they are defined, being essentially non-existent when compared to differences between all other >genetically grouped organisms.
>
> Where I think we'd find the greatest differences between races, especially black and white, is in TEMPERMENT. I've used this observation before, that there is a world of difference between collies and pit bulls. All breeds of dogs in fact, show great differences depending on their particular breed, which was honed through time by humans for specific funtion.
Dogs are bred by humans to serve humans, now who decides how to breed
humans into different races?
> All these 'breeds' are the same species, but mixing, say rotweillers with young infants is just bad judgement [and burying one's head in the sand as to reality of the situation].
By "infant" I suppose you mean chihuahua or Pekinese.
> Liberals will always argue the anecdotal example of the exception to prove thier point, but the person who has COMMON SENSE to the world will understand without any arguement the REALITY of the situation.
Common sense is very often very wrong. It is often abused by
politicians and salesmen of the shadier sort. Uncommon sense makes for
progress. Like saying that iron ships can float, and men could fly in
machines at speeds faster than sound, were all against common sense
once upon a time.
> Blacks and whites are very DIFFERENT. Who cares about the superiority or inferiority arguement...either will seek to arrange the furniture as an expression of their temperment and uniqueness [which will probably be quite repulsive to the other in many ways].
Now this is a surprisingly refreshing sentiment! And not racist at
all. Good!
> It is one reason why PROPRIETY is very important to a given society. AS long as people understand that being in Germany means living under a German's culture, and some notion of adaptation to that cultural ownership, no problem. We have immigration and then assimilation.
Fair enough.
>
> But when too many Turks are invited in and start to take over the countryside, they can barter their position for real political power and change the very identity of what a good German is.
Such is the nature of change. It swings from one end to the other.
Life is seldom static. And when it is, it is boring and suits only
dull minds. When any minority in any land obeys the laws of the land,
they have to be left alone. When the majority elects a Hitler to
throw them out, we have civil wars, and in our time, world wars.
Ruling a land is never easy, perhaps more so in peacetime when there
is less unity. Which is why bad politicians always want wars, as they
cannot manage in times of peace.
> This creates high cognizant dissonance...and a social schizophrenia.
It need not. But then, dull minds predominate in every society. The
alternatives are to include the minorities, make them welcome, give
them scope, so that they assimilate faster and better. When racist,
bigoted or nationalistic notions are used to keep them out, the
minorities will be forced to live in ghetto situations and then they
will become the targets for the racists. On the other hand, if the
laws and the majority peoples are not paranoid about the minorities,
then the minorities will be happy, hard-working and the resulting
prosperity will benefit everyone. Essentially narrow-minded racism and
bigotries cannot be afforded any more, by anyone. This, mind you, is
a very general statement - for all situations, not just in black and
white. Thus it relates to caste and tribal systems as well, as those
based upon complexion and religion.
> This is the great flaw in multiculturism as being erected in the world today.
No. Multiculturalism has prevented wars, created far more
communication, relieved social tensions, wiped out misconceptions such
as those provided by the racists and bigots, and finally provided
unimaginable prosperity for vast swathes of mankind. Not that they
may use it wisely, as walmartians show. We all have to grow up!
>We try to suppress Racial identity for reason of inclusion, but what we really do is throw ownership of the society up for grabs creating conflict, and ripping the binding fabric of that society up at the seams.
Maybe in some cases.
> Some races do well together in the mixing. Others do not...and there is the question of similarity and disparity...that is, a shared language, history, heritage, cultural background. There is no integrationg blacks and whites without an essential struggle for dominance and ownership because the shared history is so convulsively conflicting. The historical advent of slavery for example, leaves the discussion of racial integration TODAY as a lopsided one way discussion...'always' to the negroe's advantage [under modern sensibilities and the given hegemony].
Multicultural people look to the future, a better one for everyone.
There is no looking back upon past grievances. To the extent the
minorities harp on past injustices in order to get present and future
benefits they do not deserve, they harm the cause of
multiculturalism. This certainly happens, like all negative things
happen. But on the whole the multicultural viewpoint has done wonders
for mankind, as opposed to the racist structures of the past (which is
still very much there, though largely underground).
>
> We need to ask ourselves if western civilization was a good thing or not, because on present course, we are slowly destroying it's foundations, and with it the essential values that have inspired our humanity for some time now.
I see quite the reverse. Modern western secular superficial shoppping
hedonistic materialistic selfish-greedy-snobbish-decadent-cowardly-
inane mediocrity-driven civilisation is wiping out all other
civilisations, quite steadily. Idealism, nobility, politeness,
loyalty, love of nature, altruism, objectivity, real science, good
music and profound literature etc are not even merely quaint, they are
seen as downright evil as they rough up the flow of money, and make
the western or westernised decadents feel insecure and small. Whether
for good or bad, I don't know. Maybe it will for the good if they
internalise the strengths and goodnesses of the other civilisations
they are currently wiping out.
> Can objectivity of science replace such 'valuation'? I say no; that it can only sit over us as new master to husband us like farm animals, leaving us adrift without any moral vindication to our actions, one way or another.
This has nothing to do with hardworking Turks and other minorities.
Why blame Western decadence upon the immigrants? Are they working too
hard, to make the ruling majorities too lazy and thus decadent?
> We are in dire straits in today's world, that's for sure; all of us, any race, any creed. We are on the 'wrong way' tracks to oblivion [IMHO of course].
That is so, because the decadents want to fly using jet engines that
pollute the upper atmosphere with carbon dioxide, and they don't want
to talk about it. They will do anything rather than admit that they
are screwing up the environment this way.
> Many of us never WANTED to think in terms of race...but the world, as it proceeds now, forces the white guy to take another look at his own existence, if he wants to survive or not [and his structures of law, order, and reasonable institution].
Not necessary for the well-off white guy, but the white loser guy
needs all the anti-competitive boost he can get outa racism.
>
> But then, well...the people re-elected Obama.
Wasn't GB2 also re-elected? Was he better than Obama? If you think
so, could you list the top ten reasons why he was better than Obama?
>Seems the world (all the other races) wants blood.
No, no, no. The other races don't have nukes, chemical weapons, bio
weapons, missiles, stealth planes, cruise missiles, drones, napalm,
landmines, financial weapons, embargoes etc etc etc
> Ah well, they nailed Christ to the cross...why not the white guy too.
Was Christ white or western? About the hypothetical crucified white
guy: it's a bit too rich when the torturing guy (see above) whimpers
about himself being tortured! Something quite original.
> but let's not delude ourselves of the ENVY that drives the madness behind the persecution.
To see things from the uncompetitive racist's point of view, yes there
has been a change in his position when it was decided by the winner
whites that white skin did not automatically guarantee superiority
over any non-white for any job. But there is no envy, madness or
persecution here. Just the call for the racist to work harder, do
better, mix more freely, expand his horizons. This way everyone wins,
for the economy prospers, wars don't happen, the scope for travel
increases, more friends are made...
> It is a 'smallness' in the selfish mind that moves the world against western man now...absent of all nobility and ascendent aspiration.
Modern western civilisation has absolutely no use for nobility of any
kind, except maybe in mannerisms. Only power and money, now that's
"ascendent aspiration".
> America was a good thing in the world.
Yes, they did invent a lot of great things, gave shelter to many
sufferers, opportunity for many people who had none in their own
lands...
> Shame on the world as she is slowly destroyed, torn apart like mad women at a fire sale [now that the white guy has been deposed, disemboweled politically].
I see no reason why America can do even better, with their racists
finally grasping the fact that the black Obama is back for 4 more
years; he has been genuinely re-elected. Well, he is just a puppet. A
brown mask to serve a certain set of white interests. Still, he is
the poppet that represents the USA, and so far he has done better than
his predecessor.
Cheers, and cheer up. You needn't be so morose, but I suppose being so
makes you happy in a way.
Arindam Banerjee
Author of "The Son of Hiranyaksh"
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> On Friday, November 23, 2012 3:04:41 PM UTC-5, Zerkon wrote:
> > Race by definition pivots upon specific physicality. Genetics is usually . The genetic difference between all race groupings, however they are defined, being essentially non-existent when compared to differences between all other >genetically grouped organisms.
>
> Where I think we'd find the greatest differences between races, especially black and white, is in TEMPERMENT. I've used this observation before, that there is a world of difference between collies and pit bulls. All breeds of dogs in fact, show great differences depending on their particular breed, which was honed through time by humans for specific funtion.
Dogs are bred by humans to serve humans, now who decides how to breed
humans into different races?
> All these 'breeds' are the same species, but mixing, say rotweillers with young infants is just bad judgement [and burying one's head in the sand as to reality of the situation].
By "infant" I suppose you mean chihuahua or Pekinese.
> Liberals will always argue the anecdotal example of the exception to prove thier point, but the person who has COMMON SENSE to the world will understand without any arguement the REALITY of the situation.
Common sense is very often very wrong. It is often abused by
politicians and salesmen of the shadier sort. Uncommon sense makes for
progress. Like saying that iron ships can float, and men could fly in
machines at speeds faster than sound, were all against common sense
once upon a time.
> Blacks and whites are very DIFFERENT. Who cares about the superiority or inferiority arguement...either will seek to arrange the furniture as an expression of their temperment and uniqueness [which will probably be quite repulsive to the other in many ways].
Now this is a surprisingly refreshing sentiment! And not racist at
all. Good!
> It is one reason why PROPRIETY is very important to a given society. AS long as people understand that being in Germany means living under a German's culture, and some notion of adaptation to that cultural ownership, no problem. We have immigration and then assimilation.
Fair enough.
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> But when too many Turks are invited in and start to take over the countryside, they can barter their position for real political power and change the very identity of what a good German is.
Such is the nature of change. It swings from one end to the other.
Life is seldom static. And when it is, it is boring and suits only
dull minds. When any minority in any land obeys the laws of the land,
they have to be left alone. When the majority elects a Hitler to
throw them out, we have civil wars, and in our time, world wars.
Ruling a land is never easy, perhaps more so in peacetime when there
is less unity. Which is why bad politicians always want wars, as they
cannot manage in times of peace.
> This creates high cognizant dissonance...and a social schizophrenia.
It need not. But then, dull minds predominate in every society. The
alternatives are to include the minorities, make them welcome, give
them scope, so that they assimilate faster and better. When racist,
bigoted or nationalistic notions are used to keep them out, the
minorities will be forced to live in ghetto situations and then they
will become the targets for the racists. On the other hand, if the
laws and the majority peoples are not paranoid about the minorities,
then the minorities will be happy, hard-working and the resulting
prosperity will benefit everyone. Essentially narrow-minded racism and
bigotries cannot be afforded any more, by anyone. This, mind you, is
a very general statement - for all situations, not just in black and
white. Thus it relates to caste and tribal systems as well, as those
based upon complexion and religion.
> This is the great flaw in multiculturism as being erected in the world today.
No. Multiculturalism has prevented wars, created far more
communication, relieved social tensions, wiped out misconceptions such
as those provided by the racists and bigots, and finally provided
unimaginable prosperity for vast swathes of mankind. Not that they
may use it wisely, as walmartians show. We all have to grow up!
>We try to suppress Racial identity for reason of inclusion, but what we really do is throw ownership of the society up for grabs creating conflict, and ripping the binding fabric of that society up at the seams.
Maybe in some cases.
> Some races do well together in the mixing. Others do not...and there is the question of similarity and disparity...that is, a shared language, history, heritage, cultural background. There is no integrationg blacks and whites without an essential struggle for dominance and ownership because the shared history is so convulsively conflicting. The historical advent of slavery for example, leaves the discussion of racial integration TODAY as a lopsided one way discussion...'always' to the negroe's advantage [under modern sensibilities and the given hegemony].
Multicultural people look to the future, a better one for everyone.
There is no looking back upon past grievances. To the extent the
minorities harp on past injustices in order to get present and future
benefits they do not deserve, they harm the cause of
multiculturalism. This certainly happens, like all negative things
happen. But on the whole the multicultural viewpoint has done wonders
for mankind, as opposed to the racist structures of the past (which is
still very much there, though largely underground).
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> We need to ask ourselves if western civilization was a good thing or not, because on present course, we are slowly destroying it's foundations, and with it the essential values that have inspired our humanity for some time now.
I see quite the reverse. Modern western secular superficial shoppping
hedonistic materialistic selfish-greedy-snobbish-decadent-cowardly-
inane mediocrity-driven civilisation is wiping out all other
civilisations, quite steadily. Idealism, nobility, politeness,
loyalty, love of nature, altruism, objectivity, real science, good
music and profound literature etc are not even merely quaint, they are
seen as downright evil as they rough up the flow of money, and make
the western or westernised decadents feel insecure and small. Whether
for good or bad, I don't know. Maybe it will for the good if they
internalise the strengths and goodnesses of the other civilisations
they are currently wiping out.
> Can objectivity of science replace such 'valuation'? I say no; that it can only sit over us as new master to husband us like farm animals, leaving us adrift without any moral vindication to our actions, one way or another.
This has nothing to do with hardworking Turks and other minorities.
Why blame Western decadence upon the immigrants? Are they working too
hard, to make the ruling majorities too lazy and thus decadent?
> We are in dire straits in today's world, that's for sure; all of us, any race, any creed. We are on the 'wrong way' tracks to oblivion [IMHO of course].
That is so, because the decadents want to fly using jet engines that
pollute the upper atmosphere with carbon dioxide, and they don't want
to talk about it. They will do anything rather than admit that they
are screwing up the environment this way.
> Many of us never WANTED to think in terms of race...but the world, as it proceeds now, forces the white guy to take another look at his own existence, if he wants to survive or not [and his structures of law, order, and reasonable institution].
Not necessary for the well-off white guy, but the white loser guy
needs all the anti-competitive boost he can get outa racism.
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> But then, well...the people re-elected Obama.
Wasn't GB2 also re-elected? Was he better than Obama? If you think
so, could you list the top ten reasons why he was better than Obama?
>Seems the world (all the other races) wants blood.
No, no, no. The other races don't have nukes, chemical weapons, bio
weapons, missiles, stealth planes, cruise missiles, drones, napalm,
landmines, financial weapons, embargoes etc etc etc
> Ah well, they nailed Christ to the cross...why not the white guy too.
Was Christ white or western? About the hypothetical crucified white
guy: it's a bit too rich when the torturing guy (see above) whimpers
about himself being tortured! Something quite original.
> but let's not delude ourselves of the ENVY that drives the madness behind the persecution.
To see things from the uncompetitive racist's point of view, yes there
has been a change in his position when it was decided by the winner
whites that white skin did not automatically guarantee superiority
over any non-white for any job. But there is no envy, madness or
persecution here. Just the call for the racist to work harder, do
better, mix more freely, expand his horizons. This way everyone wins,
for the economy prospers, wars don't happen, the scope for travel
increases, more friends are made...
> It is a 'smallness' in the selfish mind that moves the world against western man now...absent of all nobility and ascendent aspiration.
Modern western civilisation has absolutely no use for nobility of any
kind, except maybe in mannerisms. Only power and money, now that's
"ascendent aspiration".
> America was a good thing in the world.
Yes, they did invent a lot of great things, gave shelter to many
sufferers, opportunity for many people who had none in their own
lands...
> Shame on the world as she is slowly destroyed, torn apart like mad women at a fire sale [now that the white guy has been deposed, disemboweled politically].
I see no reason why America can do even better, with their racists
finally grasping the fact that the black Obama is back for 4 more
years; he has been genuinely re-elected. Well, he is just a puppet. A
brown mask to serve a certain set of white interests. Still, he is
the poppet that represents the USA, and so far he has done better than
his predecessor.
Cheers, and cheer up. You needn't be so morose, but I suppose being so
makes you happy in a way.
Arindam Banerjee
Author of "The Son of Hiranyaksh"
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