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Nearly 4 years later, I still have yet to find one person who will admit to voting for Obama.

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Peter Mormon

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Aug 13, 2012, 10:02:44 AM8/13/12
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There must be a lot of liars out there.

Dano

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Aug 13, 2012, 11:49:46 AM8/13/12
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"Peter Mormon" wrote in message
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There must be a lot of liars out there.

=============================================

In my household, both our family cars still sport Obama stickers from 08.

I can't remember seeing a Romney sticker yet. McCain's vanished pretty soon
after the election.

Ashley Johnson

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Aug 13, 2012, 11:55:25 AM8/13/12
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On Aug 13, 2:02 pm, "Peter Mormon" <no...@democrat.voter> wrote:
> Nearly 4 years later, I still have yet to find one person who will admit to voting for Obama.

Present!

trotsky

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Aug 13, 2012, 12:07:29 PM8/13/12
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On 8/13/12 9:02 AM, Peter Mormon wrote:

<snip>

Do your NAMBLA activities preclude this, then?

Bert

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Aug 13, 2012, 12:21:37 PM8/13/12
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In news:db8b978c-890a-4292...@a9g2000vbn.googlegroups.com
So you're really not a Romanian?

--
be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN

Ashley Johnson

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Aug 13, 2012, 12:25:48 PM8/13/12
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On Aug 13, 4:21 pm, Bert <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> Innews:db8b978c-890a-4292...@a9g2000vbn.googlegroups.com
>
> Ashley Johnson <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 13, 2:02 pm, "Peter Mormon" <no...@democrat.voter> wrote:
> >> Nearly 4 years later, I still have yet to find one person who will
> >> admit
> > to voting for Obama.
>
> > Present!
>
> So you're really not a Romanian?

What? Where did I ever say I was?

Bert Hyman

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Aug 13, 2012, 12:55:10 PM8/13/12
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In news:1f3c1d88-24e1-4796...@j11g2000vbc.googlegroups.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 93.114.40.194

Name: lh19469.limehost.ro
Address: 93.114.40.194

Of course, I now see

NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.185.23.179

Name: torland1-this.is.a.tor.exit.server.torland.me
Address: 146.185.23.179

So, you're obviously some sort of nym-shifting troll who hides behind
anonymizers.

Nothing you say about anything can be believed.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com

Ashley Johnson

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Aug 13, 2012, 1:10:05 PM8/13/12
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On Aug 13, 4:55 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> Innews:1f3c1d88-24e1-4796...@j11g2000vbc.googlegroups.com
>
> Ashley Johnson <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 13, 4:21 pm, Bert <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> >> Innews:db8b978c-890a-4292...@a9g2000vbn.googlegroups.com
>
> >> Ashley Johnson <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Aug 13, 2:02 pm, "Peter Mormon" <no...@democrat.voter> wrote:
> >> >> Nearly 4 years later, I still have yet to find one person who will
> >> >> admit
> >> > to voting for Obama.
>
> >> > Present!
>
> >> So you're really not a Romanian?
>
> > What? Where did I ever say I was?
>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 93.114.40.194
>
> Name:    lh19469.limehost.ro
> Address:  93.114.40.194
>
> Of course, I now see
>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.185.23.179
>
> Name:    torland1-this.is.a.tor.exit.server.torland.me
> Address:  146.185.23.179
>
> So, you're obviously some sort of nym-shifting troll who hides behind
> anonymizers.
>
> Nothing you say about anything can be believed.
>
> --
> Bert Hyman      St. Paul, MN    b...@iphouse.com

My brother set up my system, including some sort of anonymizer that he
said would help protect me from some of Google's web tracking. I don't
know a whole lot about how that works but I suppose it could make it
seem that I'm jumping around from place to place.

Rest assured that I'm not either nymshifting or a troll. The
ajohnson44109 email won't bounce -- try it and see. And I'm posting
using only the one name.

Frankly, I have to agree with my brother that it's none of anyone's
business where I am or what I do outside of my use of usenet. Why were
you prying into trying to figure out where I was, hmm? What business
is that of yours? Seems my brother was right about people trying to
track people, just not that it would be Google that would turn out to
be up to no good. Unless Google is ALSO up to no good.

Bert

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Aug 13, 2012, 1:17:38 PM8/13/12
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In
news:fd5a47af-c6cf-4902...@l10g2000yqo.googlegroups.com
Ashley Johnson <ajohns...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Frankly, I have to agree with my brother that it's none of anyone's
> business where I am or what I do outside of my use of usenet. Why were
> you prying into trying to figure out where I was, hmm? What business
> is that of yours? Seems my brother was right about people trying to
> track people, just not that it would be Google that would turn out to
> be up to no good. Unless Google is ALSO up to no good.

I've never seen anything good come out of people who post through
anonymizers, and you've just given me the IP addresses of three more of
them to add to my filter file.

Thanks for that, anyway.

Gunner

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Aug 13, 2012, 1:17:35 PM8/13/12
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:49:46 -0400, "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Good! It will be a great way to tell who to drag out of the house and
kill when the Great Cull starts.

<VBG>

Gunner

One bleeding-heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not
agree that "violence begets violence." I told him that it is my
earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure
- and in some cases I have - that any man who offers violence to his
fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy.

- Jeff Cooper

Gunner

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Aug 13, 2012, 1:18:22 PM8/13/12
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Going to vote for someone else this November to prove you arent
stupid?

Ashley Johnson

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Aug 13, 2012, 1:36:13 PM8/13/12
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On Aug 13, 5:17 pm, Bert <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> Innews:fd5a47af-c6cf-4902...@l10g2000yqo.googlegroups.com
>
> Ashley Johnson <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Frankly, I have to agree with my brother that it's none of anyone's
> > business where I am or what I do outside of my use of usenet. Why were
> > you prying into trying to figure out where I was, hmm? What business
> > is that of yours? Seems my brother was right about people trying to
> > track people, just not that it would be Google that would turn out to
> > be up to no good. Unless Google is ALSO up to no good.
>
> I've never seen anything good come out of people who post through
> anonymizers, and you've just given me the IP addresses of three more of
> them to add to my filter file.
>
> Thanks for that, anyway.

You can lead a horse to water, but obviously you cannot make Bert
drink.

Ashley Johnson

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Aug 13, 2012, 1:36:36 PM8/13/12
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On Aug 13, 5:18 pm, Gunner <Gunner Asch> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:55:25 -0700 (PDT), Ashley Johnson
>
> <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 13, 2:02 pm, "Peter Mormon" <no...@democrat.voter> wrote:
> >> Nearly 4 years later, I still have yet to find one person who will admit to voting for Obama.
>
> >Present!
>
> Going to vote for someone else this November to prove you arent
> stupid?

I don't agree that voting for Obama would be stupid.

Gunner

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Aug 13, 2012, 2:30:51 PM8/13/12
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Of course not. Snicker

Fatal to the nation..but not stupid..no siree!!

Your opinion is noted.

As is the opinion of the American people. Obama is toast.

Ashley Johnson

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Aug 13, 2012, 3:52:10 PM8/13/12
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On Aug 13, 6:30 pm, Gunner <Gunner Asch> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:36:36 -0700 (PDT), Ashley Johnson
>
> <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 13, 5:18 pm, Gunner <Gunner Asch> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:55:25 -0700 (PDT), Ashley Johnson
>
> >> <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Aug 13, 2:02 pm, "Peter Mormon" <no...@democrat.voter> wrote:
> >> >> Nearly 4 years later, I still have yet to find one person who will admit to voting for Obama.
>
> >> >Present!
>
> >> Going to vote for someone else this November to prove you arent
> >> stupid?
>
> >I don't agree that voting for Obama would be stupid.
>
> Fatal to the nation..

Proof?

Gunner

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Aug 13, 2012, 4:23:16 PM8/13/12
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You live in a cave? Tell me you do, so I cant think you are possible
this stupid and have to trot out all the cites about the economy and
whatnot.

Tell me cupcake...whats the U6 numbers for this week? Going up..or
down? Unemployment going UP..or down?

http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_u6.jsp

Oopps! They are going up! Odd how that happens when we have the
Hopey/Changey President in charge...isnt it?

Almost 4 yrs...and its still going up..and up..and up....

Ashley Johnson

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Aug 13, 2012, 4:27:17 PM8/13/12
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On Aug 13, 8:23 pm, Gunner <Gunner Asch> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:52:10 -0700 (PDT), Ashley Johnson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 13, 6:30 pm, Gunner <Gunner Asch> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:36:36 -0700 (PDT), Ashley Johnson
>
> >> <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Aug 13, 5:18 pm, Gunner <Gunner Asch> wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:55:25 -0700 (PDT), Ashley Johnson
>
> >> >> <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Aug 13, 2:02 pm, "Peter Mormon" <no...@democrat.voter> wrote:
> >> >> >> Nearly 4 years later, I still have yet to find one person who will admit to voting for Obama.
>
> >> >> >Present!
>
> >> >> Going to vote for someone else this November to prove you arent
> >> >> stupid?
>
> >> >I don't agree that voting for Obama would be stupid.
>
> >> Fatal to the nation..
>
> >Proof?
>
> You live in a cave? Tell me you do, so I cant think you are possible
> this stupid and have to trot out all the cites about the economy and
> whatnot.

You mean, the mess that Bush left for Obama to clean up? You *do*
realize that there's no instant fix for these kinds of things, don't
you? Castigating Obama for not waving a magic wand and instantly
fixing everything Bush broke during his eight years in office is
ludicrous.

And with that, I'm done here. Screed some vitriol about how Obama is a
failure and I am an idiot, or whatever. I know you'll fail to address
the point I just made above, and therefore will lose by default
without my having to post anything else.

.

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Aug 13, 2012, 5:10:31 PM8/13/12
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Ashley Johnson wrote:

> On Aug 13, 8:23 pm, Gunner <Gunner Asch> wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:52:10 -0700 (PDT), Ashley Johnson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Aug 13, 6:30 pm, Gunner <Gunner Asch> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:36:36 -0700 (PDT), Ashley Johnson
> >
> > >> <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >On Aug 13, 5:18 pm, Gunner <Gunner Asch> wrote:
> > >> >> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:55:25 -0700 (PDT), Ashley Johnson
> >
> > >> >> <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >On Aug 13, 2:02 pm, "Peter Mormon" <no...@democrat.voter>
> > wrote: >> >> >> Nearly 4 years later, I still have yet to find one
> > person who will admit to voting for Obama.
> >
> > >> >> >Present!
> >
> > >> >> Going to vote for someone else this November to prove you
> > arent >> >> stupid?
> >
> > >> >I don't agree that voting for Obama would be stupid.
> >
> > >> Fatal to the nation..
> >
> > > Proof?
> >
> > You live in a cave? Tell me you do, so I cant think you are possible
> > this stupid and have to trot out all the cites about the economy and
> > whatnot.
>
> You mean, the mess that Bush left for Obama to clean up? You do
> realize that there's no instant fix for these kinds of things, don't
> you? Castigating Obama for not waving a magic wand and instantly
> fixing everything Bush broke during his eight years in office is
> ludicrous.
>
> And with that, I'm done here. Screed some vitriol about how Obama is a
> failure and I am an idiot, or whatever. I know you'll fail to address
> the point I just made above, and therefore will lose by default
> without my having to post anything else.

kook stop crossposting this is a tv group



--

Dano

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"." wrote in message
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Is it okay to call you for short?

Tom

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Aug 13, 2012, 8:38:06 PM8/13/12
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On Aug 13, 9:02 am, "Peter Mormon" <no...@democrat.voter> wrote:
> There must be a lot of liars out there.

My wife and I voted for him and will do so again.

Got anything else stupid to say?

Tom

Gunner

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Aug 13, 2012, 9:17:09 PM8/13/12
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Everything Bush broke? You are certainly not talking about all the
stuff that the Democrats busted during the last two years of the Bush
administration..when the Democrats took control of Congress..are you?

These two years..and the 3 yrs since that they controlled Congress?
They have been in total charge of both houses of Congress from 2007
until the first of this year..when Republicans finally took back the
House. Those 5 yrs you are talking about? Say..no budget since
2009..whats up with that? Hummm?


Can you point out any of the things that "Bush broke"? Or is this
simply a preprogrammed talking point downloaded via that ugly usb port
in the back of your skull?

Feel free. Use as much whitespace as necessary.
>
>And with that, I'm done here. Screed some vitriol about how Obama is a
>failure and I am an idiot, or whatever. I know you'll fail to address
>the point I just made above, and therefore will lose by default
>without my having to post anything else.

So you found out you are way way over your head and decided to run
like a little child back to her mommy...screeching "Dey is being mean
to meeeeee Mommy!!!!!"

You Leftwingers are getting more and more pitiful as the DNC starts
scraping the bottom of the barrel for Useful Idiots to push their
party lies.

Seems as though the Tea Party has kicked your ass..and the election
isnt even here yet. <VBG>

Btw...speaking of Great Depressions....both the original one and the
current Part 2.....

http://www.redstate.com/adamis/2012/07/31/the-democratic-marxistsocialist-agenda-and-the-next-great-depression/

Seems you stupid mentally ill socialists simply cant be trusted with
money or peoples lives....can you ?

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx

FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists
calculate
By Meg Sullivan August 10, 2004
Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression
dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously
thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

After scrutinizing Roosevelt's record for four years, Harold L. Cole
and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies
signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long
years.

"Why the Great Depression lasted so long has always been a great
mystery, and because we never really knew the reason, we have always
worried whether we would have another 10- to 15-year economic slump,"
said Ohanian, vice chair of UCLA's Department of Economics. "We found
that a relapse isn't likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with
ill-conceived stimulus policies."

In an article in the August issue of the Journal of Political Economy,
Ohanian and Cole blame specific anti-competition and pro-labor
measures that Roosevelt promoted and signed into law June 16, 1933.

"President Roosevelt believed that excessive competition was
responsible for the Depression by reducing prices and wages, and by
extension reducing employment and demand for goods and services," said
Cole, also a UCLA professor of economics. "So he came up with a
recovery package that would be unimaginable today, allowing businesses
in every industry to collude without the threat of antitrust
prosecution and workers to demand salaries about 25 percent above
where they ought to have been, given market forces. The economy was
poised for a beautiful recovery, but that recovery was stalled by
these misguided policies."

Using data collected in 1929 by the Conference Board and the Bureau of
Labor Statistics, Cole and Ohanian were able to establish average
wages and prices across a range of industries just prior to the
Depression. By adjusting for annual increases in productivity, they
were able to use the 1929 benchmark to figure out what prices and
wages would have been during every year of the Depression had
Roosevelt's policies not gone into effect. They then compared those
figures with actual prices and wages as reflected in the Conference
Board data.

In the three years following the implementation of Roosevelt's
policies, wages in 11 key industries averaged 25 percent higher than
they otherwise would have done, the economists calculate. But
unemployment was also 25 percent higher than it should have been,
given gains in productivity.

Meanwhile, prices across 19 industries averaged 23 percent above where
they should have been, given the state of the economy. With goods and
services that much harder for consumers to afford, demand stalled and
the gross national product floundered at 27 percent below where it
otherwise might have been.

"High wages and high prices in an economic slump run contrary to
everything we know about market forces in economic downturns," Ohanian
said. "As we've seen in the past several years, salaries and prices
fall when unemployment is high. By artificially inflating both, the
New Deal policies short-circuited the market's self-correcting
forces."

The policies were contained in the National Industrial Recovery Act
(NIRA), which exempted industries from antitrust prosecution if they
agreed to enter into collective bargaining agreements that
significantly raised wages. Because protection from antitrust
prosecution all but ensured higher prices for goods and services, a
wide range of industries took the bait, Cole and Ohanian found. By
1934 more than 500 industries, which accounted for nearly 80 percent
of private, non-agricultural employment, had entered into the
collective bargaining agreements called for under NIRA.

Cole and Ohanian calculate that NIRA and its aftermath account for 60
percent of the weak recovery. Without the policies, they contend that
the Depression would have ended in 1936 instead of the year when they
believe the slump actually ended: 1943.

Roosevelt's role in lifting the nation out of the Great Depression has
been so revered that Time magazine readers cited it in 1999 when
naming him the 20th century's second-most influential figure.

"This is exciting and valuable research," said Robert E. Lucas Jr.,
the 1995 Nobel Laureate in economics, and the John Dewey Distinguished
Service Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago. "The
prevention and cure of depressions is a central mission of
macroeconomics, and if we can't understand what happened in the 1930s,
how can we be sure it won't happen again?"

NIRA's role in prolonging the Depression has not been more closely
scrutinized because the Supreme Court declared the act
unconstitutional within two years of its passage.

"Historians have assumed that the policies didn't have an impact
because they were too short-lived, but the proof is in the pudding,"
Ohanian said. "We show that they really did artificially inflate wages
and prices."

Even after being deemed unconstitutional, Roosevelt's anti-competition
policies persisted — albeit under a different guise, the scholars
found. Ohanian and Cole painstakingly documented the extent to which
the Roosevelt administration looked the other way as industries once
protected by NIRA continued to engage in price-fixing practices for
four more years.

The number of antitrust cases brought by the Department of Justice
fell from an average of 12.5 cases per year during the 1920s to an
average of 6.5 cases per year from 1935 to 1938, the scholars found.
Collusion had become so widespread that one Department of Interior
official complained of receiving identical bids from a protected
industry (steel) on 257 different occasions between mid-1935 and
mid-1936. The bids were not only identical but also 50 percent higher
than foreign steel prices. Without competition, wholesale prices
remained inflated, averaging 14 percent higher than they would have
been without the troublesome practices, the UCLA economists calculate.

NIRA's labor provisions, meanwhile, were strengthened in the National
Relations Act, signed into law in 1935. As union membership doubled,
so did labor's bargaining power, rising from 14 million strike days in
1936 to about 28 million in 1937. By 1939 wages in protected
industries remained 24 percent to 33 percent above where they should
have been, based on 1929 figures, Cole and Ohanian calculate.
Unemployment persisted. By 1939 the U.S. unemployment rate was 17.2
percent, down somewhat from its 1933 peak of 24.9 percent but still
remarkably high. By comparison, in May 2003, the unemployment rate of
6.1 percent was the highest in nine years.

Recovery came only after the Department of Justice dramatically
stepped up enforcement of antitrust cases nearly four-fold and
organized labor suffered a string of setbacks, the economists found.

"The fact that the Depression dragged on for years convinced
generations of economists and policy-makers that capitalism could not
be trusted to recover from depressions and that significant government
intervention was required to achieve good outcomes," Cole said.
"Ironically, our work shows that the recovery would have been very
rapid had the government not intervened."

-UCLA-
LSMS368

Gunner

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Snicker.....

Meet the Real Workers Obama Screwed Over
By Michelle Malkin
August 8, 2012
Subscribe to Michelle Malkin's posts

Chutzpah overload in full effect: President Obama's sleazy super-PAC,
run by his former White House spokesman Bill Burton, just released an
ad accusing GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney of causing the
cancer death of a steelworker's wife.

It's not just a slanderous and false attack. It's a foolish attempt to
camouflage the administration's massive jobs death toll, politicized
pension plundering and Big Labor bailout cronyism. And it will
backfire big time because the thousands and thousands of true victims
of Obama's economic wreckage are speaking up and fighting back.

Let's dispense with the "Romney = murderer" meme first. The warped
Priorities USA ad features the claims of one Joe Soptic, a former
employee at the Kansas City-based GST Steel plant. The plant went
bankrupt years after Bain Capital acquired it. Soptic blames Romney
for the loss of his job and health insurance — and for the subsequent
death of his wife a "short time after" the plant's closure.

But Romney stopped working for Bain in 1999. The plant closed in 2001.
And Soptic's wife died in 2006. Oh, and Soptic admitted to CNN on
Tuesday afternoon that the family in fact had health insurance at the
time of Soptic's wife's death. But it's still all-powerful,
time-traveling, omnipresent Darth Romney's fault.

Obama flack turned super-PAC slime-master Burton shrugged off the
facts and doubled down on the campaign's class-warfare bloviation.
"Families and individuals had to find new jobs, new sources of health
insurance and a way to make up for the pensions they lost," he told
Politico. "Mitt Romney has had an enduring impact on the lives of
thousands of men and women, and for many of them, that impact has been
devastating."

Yet, the Soptic story is the best they could scrape together? Stamp
this one "EPIC FAIL."

While Team Obama promotes fables to indict Romney, the
incontrovertible stories of the current administration's economic
malpractice are finally getting out. In 2010, I first reported on how
Obama's UAW bailout threw tens of thousands of nonunion autoworkers
under the bus. It's the ongoing horror story of some 20,000
white-collar workers at Delphi, a leading auto parts company spun off
from GM a decade ago.

As Washington rushed to nationalize the U.S. auto industry with $80
billion in taxpayer "rescue" funds and avoid contested court
termination proceedings, the White House auto team and the Treasury
Department schemed with Big Labor bosses to preserve UAW members'
costly pension funds by shafting their nonunion counterparts.

In addition, the nonunion pensioners lost all of their health and life
insurance benefits. The abused workers — most from hard-hit northeast
Ohio, Michigan and neighboring states — had devoted decades of their
lives as secretaries, technicians, engineers and sales employees at
Delphi/GM.
Some workers have watched up to 70 percent of their pensions vanish.

"I worked for 34 years at GM/Delphi Corp. When Delphi went bankrupt,
we lost everything," Dana Strickland of Michigan wrote me. "Because I
was salaried (middle management), we lost our pension and health
insurance. I did not belong to the union, so GM/Delphi could have
cared less. I have never felt so betrayed. We never hear this brought
to the public's attention. People need to know how we were screwed,
while the Obama administration kissed up to the union."

"I'm one of the Delphi Salaried Retirees that lost the health care,
life insurance and 67 percent of the pension I was promised in
retirement after working hard for 40 years," Charles Stone of Michigan
e-mailed. "Words cannot describe the frustration and let down these
events have thrust on my family's lives, and to have GM's rescue all
sugar-coated in the current political environment is like putting
lipstick on a pig. ... We will continue to fight to right this
grievous wrong."

Tom Rose of Ohio added: "I am one of the 20,000 salaried retirees that
lost all of my health care and — in my case — a 40 percent pension
cut. So I am now paying increased health care costs with fewer pension
dollars and contributing what is left to our lawsuit to correct this
injustice. Meanwhile, the politically connected union has their full
pension and 90-plus percent of their health care. You have hit upon
the key question: How can our own federal government pick winners and
losers amongst its own citizens?"

Through two costly years of litigation and investigation, the Delphi
workers have exposed how the stacked White House Auto Task Force
schemed with union bosses to "cherry pick" (one Obama official's own
words) which financial obligations the new Government Motors company
would assume and which they would abandon based on their political
expedience. Obama's own former auto czar Steve Rattner admitted in his
recent memoir that "attacking the union's sacred cow" could
"jeopardize" the auto bailout deal.

In June, 20 months after a federal judge first ordered the government
to cooperate, the Delphi Salaried Retirees Association broke through
the administration's information stonewall and dislodged 62,000 pages
of documents in their lawsuit to right the administration's wrongs. As
The Daily Caller reported on Tuesday, the documents included "internal
government emails (that contradicted) sworn testimony, in federal
court and before Congress, given by several Obama administration
figures. They also indicate that the administration misled lawmakers
and the courts ... and that administration figures violated federal
law."

Meanwhile, the Delphi workers who got shafted are getting in the faces
of the administration and the public with a new web ad produced by
conservative advocacy group Let Freedom Ring. They are asking, "Why,
Mr. President? Why?" They — and America — deserve answers and justice,
not more Bizarro World smears and fantastical bedtime stories.

Martin Phipps

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Aug 13, 2012, 9:31:26 PM8/13/12
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On Aug 13, 10:02 pm, "Peter Mormon" <no...@democrat.voter> wrote:
> There must be a lot of liars out there.

That's what happens when you only get to talk to other inmates.

Martin

Gunner

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Aug 13, 2012, 10:40:06 PM8/13/12
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Its good to see the retarded taking care of each other.


Gunner

Tom

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Aug 13, 2012, 10:47:09 PM8/13/12
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On Aug 13, 9:40 pm, Gunner <Gunner Asch> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:38:06 -0700 (PDT), Tom <drso...@aol.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 13, 9:02 am, "Peter Mormon" <no...@democrat.voter> wrote:
> >> There must be a lot of liars out there.
>
> >My wife and I voted for him and will do so again.
>
> >Got anything else stupid to say?
>
> >Tom
>
> Its good to see the retarded taking care of each other.
>
> Gunner


Yawn... you should try to come up with something a bit more original
and a bit less... 13 year-old.

http://www.r-word.org/

I guess if you had anything of value to say, you'd use facts and not
juvenile name calling.

That's just sad and pathetic.

Tom

Dano

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Aug 13, 2012, 11:54:09 PM8/13/12
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"Tom" wrote in message
news:364511d2-2b0e-45aa...@i7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
====================================

Hey. Come on. No call for insulting 13 year olds.

Too_Many_Tools

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Aug 13, 2012, 11:58:53 PM8/13/12
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All the McCain/Palin stickers went with the cars for Cash for
Clunkers.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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Aug 14, 2012, 12:01:56 AM8/14/12
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> be up to no good. Unless Google is ALSO up to no good.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Usenet is full of sick bastards who have stalking as a hobby.

Never post from just one location..very easy to use multiple servers
scattered across the country.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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Aug 14, 2012, 12:09:28 AM8/14/12
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On Aug 13, 8:17 pm, Gunner <Gunner Asch> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:27:17 -0700 (PDT), Ashley Johnson
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.redstate.com/adamis/2012/07/31/the-democratic-marxistsocia...
>
> Seems you stupid mentally ill socialists simply cant be trusted with
> money or peoples lives....can you ?
>
> http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depress...
> percent, down somewhat from ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL..notice how a loser like Gummer tries to justify his failures.

Kind of sad if he wasn't such an asshole.

TMT

Gunner

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Aug 14, 2012, 2:17:50 AM8/14/12
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:47:09 -0700 (PDT), Tom <drs...@aol.com> wrote:

>On Aug 13, 9:40 pm, Gunner <Gunner Asch> wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:38:06 -0700 (PDT), Tom <drso...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >On Aug 13, 9:02 am, "Peter Mormon" <no...@democrat.voter> wrote:
>> >> There must be a lot of liars out there.
>>
>> >My wife and I voted for him and will do so again.
>>
>> >Got anything else stupid to say?
>>
>> >Tom
>>
>> Its good to see the retarded taking care of each other.
>>
>> Gunner
>
>
>Yawn... you should try to come up with something a bit more original
>and a bit less... 13 year-old.

But its true none the less. Shrug. Only a retard would vote for that
worthless fuck twice.
>
>http://www.r-word.org/
>
>I guess if you had anything of value to say, you'd use facts and not
>juvenile name calling.
>
>That's just sad and pathetic.
>
>Tom

So is bragging about voting for Obama..and then bragging about doing
it again.

Say...Ive got an idea!! Can you drive a truck?

trotsky

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Aug 14, 2012, 9:23:32 AM8/14/12
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Hell, he's only calling people retarded because he's learning disabled.

Gunner

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Aug 14, 2012, 9:49:03 AM8/14/12
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That comment just goes to show how retarded you are as well.

What..the third string Useless Eaters have been turned loose on Usenet
by the DNC? Whatever the fuck for? Spite? Or does this give them
some time to clean out the accounts, stuff money into their suits and
high tail it out of town?

Tom

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Aug 14, 2012, 11:48:32 AM8/14/12
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You're right... I apologize to all 13 year-olds.

Tom
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Vincent

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Aug 22, 2012, 3:52:05 AM8/22/12
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On 13 Aug 2012, Ashley Johnson <ajohns...@gmail.com> posted some
news:db8b978c-890a-4292...@a9g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:

> On Aug 13, 2:02 pm, "Peter Mormon" <no...@democrat.voter> wrote:
>> Nearly 4 years later, I still have yet to find one person who will
>> admit
> to voting for Obama.
>
> Present!
>

That what he said, 100 odd times while doing absolutely nothing of value
as an Illinois senaturd.

Ashley Johnson

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Aug 24, 2012, 8:17:05 AM8/24/12
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On Aug 22, 7:52 am, Vincent <vince...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 13 Aug 2012, Ashley Johnson <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> posted somenews:db8b978c-890a-4292...@a9g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Aug 13, 2:02 pm, "Peter Mormon" <no...@democrat.voter> wrote:
> >> Nearly 4 years later, I still have yet to find one person who will
> >> admit
> > to voting for Obama.
>
> > Present!
>
> That what he said, 100 odd times while doing absolutely nothing of value
> as an Illinois senaturd.

Prove he did nothing of value.

Paul Derbyshire

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Aug 24, 2012, 9:10:57 AM8/24/12
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Ashley Johnson laid this down on his screen :
Prove he did, you stupid boot-fucked cunt.


Gunner

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Aug 24, 2012, 3:58:52 PM8/24/12
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Prove that he did something of value in the what...140 days he served?

This account has been banned because it violated the Google Groups Terms Of Use

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Aug 24, 2012, 8:59:31 PM8/24/12
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AUK's July Kook Of The Month, Paul G. Derbyshire AKA Ashley Johnson <ajohns...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Ashley Johnson <ajohns...@gmail.com>

http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?user=ajohnson44109%40gmail.com

Lack of posting history noted.

> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:17:05 -0700 (PDT)

Noted.

> Organization: http://groups.google.com

Abused by Paul G. Derbyshire.

Message-ID: <e4021a61-6ed7-44e3...@c19g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>

Recorded.

> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.220.135.129

Tor proxy.

SPANK!


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Bill Steele

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Aug 27, 2012, 2:46:26 PM8/27/12
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In article <t6nf38d3jmu0q7c7q...@4ax.com>,
Gunner <Gunner Asch> wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:17:05 -0700 (PDT), Ashley Johnson
> <ajohns...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 22, 7:52 am, Vincent <vince...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On 13 Aug 2012, Ashley Johnson <ajohnson44...@gmail.com> posted
> >> somenews:db8b978c-890a-4292...@a9g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:
> >>
> >> > On Aug 13, 2:02 pm, "Peter Mormon" <no...@democrat.voter> wrote:
> >> >> Nearly 4 years later, I still have yet to find one person who will
> >> >> admit
> >> > to voting for Obama.
> >>
> >> > Present!
> >>
> >> That what he said, 100 odd times while doing absolutely nothing of value
> >> as an Illinois senaturd.
> >
> >Prove he did nothing of value.
>
>
> Prove that he did something of value in the what...140 days he served?
>

"Value" is a value judgement. Opinions can't be proved or disproved.

Stupid lies, however, are easy.

Gunner

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Aug 27, 2012, 5:45:47 PM8/27/12
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:46:26 -0400, Bill Steele <ws...@cornell.edu>
wrote:
So you cant find anything either. Interesting and rather round about
admission on your part.

>
>Stupid lies, however, are easy.


Indeed. Leftwingers prove that each day here on Usenet
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