Israel terrorism agains the USA
wogol
against the United States called Operation Suzannah. It plotted to
murder Americans and blow up American installations in Egypt. Their
plan was to leave false evidence that the Egyptians did it, so as to
make America go to war against Egypt on the side of Israel. Jewish
agents succeeded in blowing up some post offices and American
libraries in Cairo and Alexandria. On the way to blow up an American
movie house, the Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Theater, an Israeli’s
agent’s bomb went off prematurely. Thankfully, for both Egypt
and for America, the plot was then exposed and stopped in its early
stages.
Because of the capture of the Israeli agents, the world learned of
this Israeli treachery and the Israeli Foreign Minister, Pinhas Lavon,
was later forced to resign. The whole episode became known as the
Lavon Affair. Today, the Jewish-dominated American media and
publishing establishment deftly cover up this Israeli treachery
against us. Most Americans know nothing about it. For instance, only a
slight mention of the Lavon Affair is found in the popular Encarta
Encyclopedia. It is in an article about Ben Gurion authored by the
pro-Zionist, Bernard Reich. By the way, the article’s author
illustrates a typical media pattern. When Americans suppose they are
reading unbiased Encyclopedia or news magazine accounts, they more
often than not are reading distorted accounts written by ardent Jewish
Zionists.
Ben-Gurion returned to politics in 1955 to replace Minister of Defense
Pinhas Lavon—who resigned after a failed attempt to sabotage
Egypt's relations with the West.
Note how the article meekly says, “a failed attempt to sabotage
Egypt’s relations with the West.” What does this mean?
“Sabotaging relations“ sounds as though Israel might have
just said a few nasty things about Egypt and America behind each
other’s back. The intentional deception used in this article by
its Jewish author is typical of the distortions that go on countless
times in the mass media.
The line in Encarta should read:
“--who was forced to resign after Israel was caught committing
terrorist bombings against the United States to treacherously incite
America to war against Israel’s enemy.”
I am sure that ninety percent of those who read this have never heard
of it. Some may think I am making this all up. Well, if you still
might doubt that Israel has committed these terrorist acts against
America in Egypt, here is a quote from a recent article appearing in
the Jewish magazine Moment, written by Samuel Katz and meant for its
small Jewish audience. It is more forward, yet still omits the
provocative word terrorism, a word Israel uses when Palestinians blow
up libraries and cinemas.
And the failures were as common as the spectacular successes. In the
mid '50s, A'man (the Jewish Defense Agency) suffered a serious setback
during the infamous "Operation Suzannah," when Israeli agents provoked
Jews in Egypt to attack American and British targets and incite
anti-Western sentiment. Many Jews were arrested, and some were
executed. The bungled operation was a severe embarrassment for the
government of Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion and his defense
minister, Pinhas Lavon
So, in the Lavon Affair we learned how our so-called “best
friend in the Mideast,” Israel, rewards the United States for
its unconditional monetary and military support: by committing
terrorism against us! Think about the fact that most Americans have
never even heard about this Israeli terrorist attack against us.
If the Egyptian government had been behind this terror against
America, we would have rightly considered it an act of war and we
would have attacked Egypt right back, just as we have done against
Afghanistan. And the press; they would have clamored for such attacks
just as they demanded attacks against Afghanistan. In fact, we
attacked Afghanistan on far less grounds than we have for attacking
Israel. No evidence exists that Afghanistan approved of or even knew
anything about the attack on the World Trade Center; but in the Lavon
Affair, the Israeli government committed a direct act of war against
the United States. We, of course, did not bomb Tel Aviv in
retaliation. We did not sever our diplomatic relations. In fact, we
did not even cut off our billions of dollars in monetary and military
aid!
Any American government official who would have given aid to the
Japanese after the attack on Pearl Harbor would have been prosecuted
as a traitor to the United States.
Let me be perfectly blunt. Those Americans in government who continued
our support of Israel after it had committed terrorist acts against
the people of the United States -- clearly committed treason against
our country.
If America’s leaders, after Israel’s terrorist attack
against us in the Lavon Affair, would simply have stopped their
treasonous aid to Israel, there would have been no subsequent acts of
terror against us such as the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks.
I.R.
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"Ausy bitch" you words, remember you lied about her three times then blamed
her for getting shot by your nazi brethern in the IDF.
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I.R.
It's a proven fact.
The Arab Did It And We Know.
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I am not even sure if Israel was not involved in WTC attack, because at
least we know that Israel knew a lot more BEFORE the WTC attack but did not
warn USA, as they claim they were following Al-Ghaeda members activities in
USA. . Israeli agents got arrested on that day and then it became clear that
they have been involved in espionage against USA. So in future we may find
out that Israel was in fact responsible or at least helped Al-Ghaeda to
attack USA for its own advantage.
So far the only people who benefited form the attack have been Israel.
Although the act was performed by Al-Ghaeda I would not be surprised if we
find out that Israeli Mossad agents penetrated Al-Ghaeda under cover and
helped them to achieve their goal of attacking USA by providing them with
intelligence and help to plan the attack..
Police, receiving public complain, did arrest on 11/9 a group of people that
turned out to be Israeli nationals as they were dancing, singing, laughing,
and taking photos of each other with WTC burning! is this true or false? if
false then why has it been reported by so many international news agencies?
although not by American ones! Did this result on an investigation and
report of Israel spying on USA? does this report exist?
While CNN on those days in September broadcast that Palestinians celebrated
the event and showed a clip showing
Palestinians celebrating, it later turned out that the clip was from before
9/11!! shwoing Palestinians celebrating another ecvent nothing to do with
9/11.
The media in USA have completely kept quiet about this.
Isn't USA a free and democratic country that tell the truth to its people
and keeps them informed?
Yes, but not when Israel is involved!! because the jews control the media
and as Sharon keep saying the USA government.
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Update: The spies who came in from the art sale
Creative Loafing has obtained a report detailing alleged Israeli spy
activity in the United States.
BY JOHN SUGG
Editor's note: Portions of the report mentioned in this article can be
found at http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/2002-03-20/news_dea.pdf.
A major international espionage saga is unfolding across the United States,
with some of its roots right here in the Atlanta area. It's been pretty
hush-hush so far, largely because the implications could be a major
embarrassment for the government.
The spy story is even more touchy because it isn't Saddam, Fidel, Osama or
even what passes nowadays for the KGB spying on America -- but our "friend"
in the war against "evil," Israel.
The basis of the spy allegations is a 60-page document -- a compilation of
field reports by Drug Enforcement Administration agents and other U.S. law
enforcement officials.
Creative Loafing last week obtained a copy of the report from intelligence
sources with long-term contacts among both Israeli and American agencies.
The government has attempted to deflect attention from earlier leaks about
the spy scandal. However, while declining to confirm or deny the
authenticity of the document, a spokesman for the DEA, William Glaspy, did
acknowledge that the agency had received many reports of the nature
described in the 60 pages.
A source familiar with the creation of the document has told CL that the
60-page memo was a draft intended as the base for a 250-page report. The
larger report has not been produced because of the volatile nature of
suggesting that Israel spies on America's deepest secrets.
Another DEA spokesperson, Rogene Waite, told Associated Press a draft
document had been compiled and forwarded to other agencies.
The validity of the scenarios described in the document is attested to in at
least one official mention. The Office of the National Counterintelligence
Executive, in a March 2001 summary, reported on "suspicious visitors to
federal facilities" and noted the type of "aggressive" activity recounted in
the document obtained by the Planet.
The nation's most prominent Jewish newspaper, the New York-based Forward,
also has confirmed portions of the vast spying network -- although stating
that the Israelis were monitoring Arabs in the United States, not trying to
access U.S. secrets. Referring to the arrest of five Israeli employees of a
New Jersey moving company who were arrested and held for two months after
the Sept. 11 attack, Forward on March 15 stated: "According to one former
high-ranking American intelligence official, who asked not to be named, the
FBI came to the conclusion at the end of its investigation that the five
Israelis ... were conducting a Mossad surveillance mission and that their
employer, Urban Moving Systems of Weehawken, N.J., served as a front."
Forward also reported that a counterintelligence probe concluded two of the
men were operatives of Mossad, Israel's spy service.
Reports of the spying were first made public in December broadcasts by Fox
News reporter Carl Cameron. It isn't clear whether he had the 60-page
document or was only told its contents. A French online news service has
obtained the report, and Le Monde in Paris has advanced the story. However,
in the United States, the media ignored the original Fox broadcast, and only
a handful of publications. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution hasn't reported
the story although another Cox-owned paper, The Palm Beach Post has.
The absence of reporting hasn't gone unnoticed. The authoritative British
intelligence and military analysis service, Jane's Information Group, on
March 13 chided: "It is rather strange that the U.S. media ... seem to be
ignoring what may well prove to be the most explosive story since the 11
September attack, the alleged breakup of a major Israeli espionage operation
in the United States which aimed to infiltrate both the Justice and Defense
departments and which may also have been tracking al-Qaida terrorists before
the aircraft hijackings took place."
In flat language and sometimes excruciating bureaucratic detail, the
document relates scores of encounters between federal agents and Israelis
describing themselves as art students. The implication is that the seemingly
innocuous cover was used to gain access to sensitive U.S. offices and
military installations. For example, Paragraph 82 of the document states
that MacDill Air Force Base intelligence officers were warned in March 2001
of the art students' efforts. A month later, a special alert was issued
about a "possible intelligence collection effort" at Tinker Air Force Base
in Oklahoma City. Among other activities, the base houses AWACS surveillance
planes and repairs B-1 bombers.
The author of the document is not identified. However, many DEA and other
law enforcement agents are named. CL has contacted some of the named agents,
and three federal employees have confirmed the incidents described in the
report. None disputed the authenticity of the report. One senior DEA
official, when read paragraphs that mentioned him, said: "Absolutely, that's
my report," adding, however, that he didn't think the incidents were
sufficient to prove an ongoing spy operation. All of the federal employees
said they could not be quoted by name.
The specific incidents are richly chronicled, down to names, drivers'
license numbers, addresses and phone numbers of the Israelis.
Perhaps most intriguing, the Israelis' military and intelligence specialties
are listed: "special forces," "intelligence officer," "demolition/explosive
ordnance specialist," "bodyguard to head of Israeli army," "electronic
intercept operator" -- even "son of a two-star (Israeli) army general."
"The activities of these Israeli art students raised the suspicion of (the
DEA's Office of Security Programs) and other field offices when attempts
were made to circumvent the access control systems at DEA offices, and when
these individuals began to solicit their paintings at the homes of DEA
employees," the document states. "The nature of the individuals' conduct,
combined with intelligence information and historical information regarding
past incidents (involving Israelis leads the DEA) to believe the incidents
may well be an organized intelligence gathering activity."
The document also links the Israelis to possible drug investigations. The
report states: "DEA Orlando has developed the first drug nexus to this
group. Telephone numbers obtained from an Israeli Art Student encountered at
the Orlando (district office) have been linked to several ongoing DEA MDMA
(Ecstasy) investigations in Florida, California, Texas, and New York."
Much of the Israeli activity, according to the report, centered on Florida.
In addition to attempting to gain access to government installations, the
document states that the Israelis approached many intelligence agents,
prosecutors and federal marshals at their homes -- including one incident on
Davis Islands.
In researching this story, the CL has learned of other encounters not
included in the 60-page report. For example, a member of Congress from
Georgia recounted to CL of being targeted by the art students on two
occasions. A Tampa state court judge was also approached. Neither the member
of Congress nor the judge wanted to be named.
In an era where CNN CEO Walter Issacson says it would be "perverse" to
televise Afghan babies killed by U.S. bombs, it's not surprising some
stories go unnoticed by a press that embraces "patriotism" by ignoring
sacred cows.
One such sacred cow is what's happening in Israel and Palestine. Reporters
know that to criticize Israel -- to point out, for example, that wanton
killing of innocents is equally devilish, whether committed by Ariel
Sharon's soldiers flying U.S.-made helicopters, or by a Hamas suicide bomber
who pushes the button -- is to risk being called an anti-Semite. It's a
tired canard meant to bludgeon debate into silence, but it's often
effective.
Even with that background, however, it's a little hard to understand the
media's avoidance of the spy story. In 1999, word began spreading among
intelligence agencies about bands of Israeli "students" doing very strange
things, such as popping up around federal buildings and military
establishments marketing artwork.
According to CL intelligence sources, low-level alerts began being flashed
around to offices of the FBI, DEA, federal prosecutors and others. By March
23, 2001, counterintelligence officials had issued a bulletin to be on the
watch for Israelis masquerading as "art students." The alert stated that
there was an "ongoing 'security threat' in the form of individuals who are
purportedly 'Israeli National Art Students' that are targeting government
offices selling 'artwork.'"
At the same time, American intelligence services were increasingly worried
by the dominance of many highly sensitive areas of telecommunications by
Israeli companies. Comverse Infosys (now called Verint) provides U.S. lawmen
with computer equipment for wiretapping. Speculation is that "catch gates"
in the system allowed listeners to be listened to. Software made by another
Israeli outfit, Amdocs, provided extensive records of virtually all calls
placed by the 25 largest U.S. telephone companies. The relationship of those
companies to the detained Israelis is detailed in the 60-page document.
The DEA's intense interest in the case stems from its 1997 purchase of
$25-million in interception equipment from Israeli companies, according to a
March 14 report by Intelligence Online, a French Web-based service that
first revealed the existence of the 60-page document.
"In assigning so many resources to the inquiry (all DEA offices were asked
to contribute)," Intelligence Online stated. "The agency was clearly worried
that its own systems might have been compromised."
Often the Israeli "students" sold their artwork on street locations near
federal buildings. In Tampa on March 1, 2001, a DEA agent heard a knock on
his office door. According to the government report: "At the door was a
young female who immediately identified herself as an Israeli art student
who had beautiful art to sell." Knowing about the security alert, the agent
began questioning the "student." After several contradictory statements, the
agent concluded "her responses were evasive at best."
Elsewhere, the document notes that the students were "persistent" in trying
to gain access to the homes of law enforcement personnel.
On other occasions, the "students" showed up at homes of intelligence
agents, judges and other government employees. The report describes a
December 2000 incident when a man and a woman knocked on the door of an
Atlanta DEA agent. "Both subjects claimed to be Israeli art students," the
document states. "The Special Agent examined some of the artwork, but became
suspicious when the students would not provide him with a contact telephone
number.... Subsequently, the Special Agent saw someof the exact same artwork
for sale at [a]kiosk in the Mall of Georgia."
Many of the apparent operatives had set up shop at addresses only stones'
throws from Arabs in San Diego, Little Rock, Irving, Texas, and in South
Florida. The Planet also has obtained a watch list of mostly Arabs under
scrutiny by the U.S. government. The addresses of many correspond to the
specific areas where the Israelis established bases.
For example, an address for the Sept. 11 hijacking leader, Mohammad Atta, is
3389 Sheridan St. in Hollywood, Fla., only a few blocks and a few hundred
feet from the address of some of the Israelis, at 4220 Sheridan.
A dozen Israelis, including the alleged surveillance leader, had been based
in Hollywood, Fla., between January and June last year -- quite possibly
watching Arabs living nearby who are suspected of providing logistical
support to Osama bin Laden's network. Especially in Florida, where 10 of the
19 Sept. 11 terrorists lived, the revelations about the Israeli activities
bolster speculation, reported by a Fox news reporter, that the
students-cum-spies might have gained advance knowledge of aspects of the
Sept. 11 terrorists -- and not passed on that critical intelligence to the
United States. CL sources with Israeli connections suggest that the
information might have been relayed to U.S. agencies, but might have been
ignored or overlooked.
Despite the highly suspect behavior of the Israelis, the media hadn't picked
up on the story.
Then came Sept. 11. While America was mesmerized by the "War on Terrorism,"
the media went out to a four-martini lunch when it came to skeptical
reporting.
With a few commendable exceptions. One of those is Carl Cameron, a gutsy
reporter for Fox News. On Dec. 12, Cameron broke the blockbuster spy story.
He said at the time: "Since Sept. 11, more than 60 Israelis have been
arrested or detained, either under the new PATRIOT anti-terrorism law, or
for immigration violations. A handful of active Israeli military were among
those detained, according to investigators, who say some of the detainees
also failed polygraph questions when asked about alleged surveillance
activities against and in the United States."
Fox also reported the Israeli "students" "targeted" U.S. military bases --
which is bolstered by the report obtained by the CL.
In the rest of the world -- Europe, Arab countries and Israel, especially --
the story made headlines. Even the official Chinese news agency perked up.
Not in our well-defended (against disturbing news) homeland, however.
Cameron, in an interview, said he doesn't believe the conspiracy theories
about why the story was ignored here. An honest scribe, he points to a
shortcoming in his own work -- one hammered on by Israeli critics at the
time -- conceding "there were no (on the record) interviews. I didn't tell
other reporters where to find the documents. They couldn't do instant
journalism."
Others at Fox confirm there was intense pressure on the network by
pro-Israeli lobbying groups, such as the Anti-Defamation League and the
misnamed Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting (CAMERA).
"These charges are arrant nonsense unworthy of the usually reliable Fox
News," CAMERA huffed in a Dec. 12 release.
Cameron reported Dec. 13 that federal agents were afraid to criticize
Israel. "Investigators within the DEA, INS and FBI have all told Fox News
that to pursue or even suggest Israeli spying ... is considered career
suicide."
Cameron told me in similar language that's what journalists also can face.
And, what's clear is that Fox quickly removed the story from its Web site.
(It was reposted this month by Fox after other media began showing interest
in the story.)
After Cameron's initial reports, the story pretty much evaporated in the
United States before Christmas. Then, all hell broke loose in the last few
weeks. Intelligence Online in France obtained the same 60-page June 2001
federal report that CL has. The French Web site reported that 120 Israelis
had by now been detained or deported by U.S. authorities.
Let's repeat that: 120 potential spies. This isn't worth press curiosity?
Few papers have given the story significant space. Many, like the AJC,
haven't uttered a peep.
Some of what has seeped out is disturbing. The Oklahoman, prompted by the
French articles, reported last week that 10 months ago four Israelis
peddling artwork (but carrying military IDs) were detained near sensitive
Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma. Le Monde in Paris recounted that six
intercepted "students" had cell phones purchased by an Israeli vice consul
in the United States. Sources told me that many of the phones had a
walkie-talkie feature that was virtually impossible to intercept.
Bush administration shills were quick to try to spin the story -- perhaps to
minimize damage should it turn out the government did have information in
advance about the people or activities that led to the Sept. 11 attack. A
Justice Department spokesperson, Susan Dryden, called the spy report an
"urban myth," and other federal flacks trumpeted that no Israeli had been
charged with or deported for spying. Of course, in the Great Game,
"friendly" spies are seldom embarrassed by being called by their true
colors. The Israelis who have been deported have been given the boot because
of visa expirations and other minor violations.
The Washington Post, which apparently doesn't have the 60-page document,
nonetheless reported March 6 that unnamed law enforcement officials had told
the paper that a "disgruntled" DEA agent had compiled the report after other
federal agencies didn't react to the Israelis' suspicious behavior. The
Post, however, also quoted a DEA spokesman who acknowledged that the large
number of incident reports had been combined into a draft memo. As with CL's
inquiry, the DEA spokesman wouldn't confirm for the Post whether the memo
was the 60-page document.
Predictably, Israeli Embassy spokesman Mark Reguev derided the Intelligence
Online report as "nonsense."
And, pro-Israeli apologists such as anti-Arab ideologue Daniel Pipes quickly
took the field with strident polemics. Pipes, who makes no claim of having
seen the 60-page document, nonetheless claimed in a March 11 column that the
story was a "dangerous falsehood" and that "U.S. journalists found not a
shred of evidence to support" it.
The fact that reporters were beginning to piece together real shreds was
blithely ignored by Pipes.
Israel in the past has belligerently denied wrongdoing until long after the
truth was obvious. Israel claimed Jonathan Pollard -- a super spy who did
horrendous, deadly damage to the United States until arrested in 1985 -
wasn't an agent. And, Israel has stubbornly contended its 1967 attack on the
USS Liberty, in which 35 American sailors were slaughtered, was an
accident -- a lie exposed in recent reports including one last fall on the
History Channel. A recent authoritative book, Body of Secrets, by James
Bamford, concludes that National Security Agency officials "were virtually
unanimous in their belief that the attack was deliberate."
With the purported art students, it's likely that denial will reach
screeching levels. The Bush administration would find it difficult to
explain why it either ignored or discounted such a large espionage
operation.
Jim Morris
Amid the ruins of Jenin, the grisly evidence of a war crime
Phil Reeves in Jenin
16 April 2002
Ann Clwyd: Europe must show its mettle and punish Israel
A monstrous war crime that Israel has tried to cover up for a fortnight has
finally been exposed. Its troops have caused devastation in the centre of
the Jenin refugee camp, reached yesterday by The Independent, where
thousands of people are still living amid the ruins.
A residential area roughly 160,000 square yards about a third of a mile wide
has been reduced to dust. Rubble has been shovelled by bulldozers into 30ft
piles. The sweet and ghastly reek of rotting human bodies is everywhere,
evidence that it is a human tomb. The people, who spent days hiding in
basements crowded into single rooms as the rockets pounded in, say there are
hundreds of corpses, entombed beneath the dust, under a field of debris,
criss-crossed with tank and bulldozer treadmarks.
In one nearby half-wrecked building, gutted by fire, lies the fly-blown
corpse of a man covered by a tartan rug. In another we found the remains of
23-year-old Ashraf Abu Hejar beneath the ruins of a fire-blackened room that
collapsed on him after being hit by a rocket. His head is shrunken and
blackened. In a third, five long-dead men lay under blankets.
A quiet. sad-looking young man called Kamal Anis led us across the
wasteland, littered now with detritus of what were once households, foam
rubber, torn clothes, shoes, tin cans, children's toys. He suddenly stopped.
This was a mass grave, he said, pointing.
We stared at a mound of debris. Here, he said, he saw the Israeli soldiers
pile 30 bodies beneath a half-wrecked house. When the pile was complete,
they bulldozed the building, bringing its ruins down on the corpses. Then
they flattened the area with a tank. We could not see the bodies. But we
could smell them.
A few days ago, we might not have believed Kamal Anis. But the descriptions
given by the many other refugees who escaped from Jenin camp were
understated, not, as many feared and Israel encouraged us to believe,
exaggerations. Their stories had not prepared me for what I saw yesterday. I
believe them now.
Until two weeks ago, there were several hundred tightly-packed homes in this
neighbourhood called Hanat al-Hawashim. They no longer exist.
Around the central ruins, there are many hundreds of half-wrecked homes.
Much of the camp - once home to 15,000 Palestinian refugees from the 1948
war - is falling down. Every wall is speckled and torn with bullet holes and
shrapnel, testimony of the awesome, random firepower of Cobra and Apache
helicopters that hovered over the camp.
Building after building has been torn apart, their contents of cheap fake
furnishings, mattresses, white plastic chairs spewed out into the road.
Every other building bears the giant, charred, impact mark of a helicopter
missile. Last night there were still many families and weeping children
still living amid the ruins, cut off from the humanitarian aid. Ominously,
we found no wounded, although there was a report of a man being rescued from
beneath ruins only an hour before we arrived.
Those who did not flee the camp, or not detained by the army, have spent the
bombardment in basements, enduring day after day of terror. Some were forced
into rooms by the soldiers, who smashed their way into houses through the
walls. The UN says half of the camp's 15,000 residents were under 18. As the
evening hush fell over these killing fields, we could suddenly hear the
children chattering. The mosques, once so noisy at prayer time, were silent.
Israel was still trying to conceal these scenes yesterday. It had refused
entry to Red Cross ambulances for nearly a week, in violation of the Geneva
Convention. Yesterday it continued to try to keep us out.
Jenin, in the northern end of the occupied West Bank, remained "a closed
military zone", was ringed Merkava tanks, army Jeep patrols, and armoured
personnel carriers. Reporters caught trying to get in were escorted out. A
day earlier the Israeli armed forces took in a few selected journalists to
see sanitised parts of the camp. We simply walked across the fields, flitted
through an olive orchard overlooked by two Israeli tanks, and into the camp
itself.
We were led in by hands gesturing at windows. Hidden, whispering people
directed us through narrow alleys they thought were clear. When there were
soldiers about, a finger would raise in warning, or a hand waved us back. We
were welcomed by people desperate to tell what had occurred. They spoke of
executions, and bulldozers wrecking homes with people inside. "This is mass
murder committed by Ariel Sharon," Jamel Saleh, 43, said. "We feel more hate
for Israel now than ever. Look at this boy." He placed his hand on the
tousled head of a little boy, Mohammed, the eight-year-old son of a friend.
"He saw all this evil. He will remember it all." So will everyone else who
saw the horror of Jenin refugee camp. Palestinians who entered the camp
yesterday were almost speechless.
Rajib Ahmed, from the Palestinian Energy Authority, came to try to repair
the power lines. He was trembling with fury and shock. "This is mass murder.
I have come here to help by I have found nothing but devastation. Just look
for yourself." All had the same message: tell the world.
http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=285364
Ann Clwyd: Europe must show its mettle and punish Israel
It took six hours to bring supplies to local hospitals. I've never seen aid
agencies denied access like this
16 April 2002
Once again the world looks utterly impotent in the face of tragedy in the
Middle East. Colin Powell, the US Secretary of State, has finally reached
the hotspots after slowly meandering through the Middle East. Yet although
he saw the effect of the suicide bombing in Jerusalem, he manifestly failed
to travel to the West Bank town of Jenin, which the Israeli army has under
curfew. Here is a refugee camp where many lie dead and wounded, and the
smell of burning and the sound of tanks fills the air.
General Powell will now set off on a further tour of the Middle East but,
unbelievably, will still not visit the areas where the Palestinians have
been under siege.
It doesn't make sense. If you are expected to bring two sides together, then
you need to appreciate the suffering on both sides, not simply on one.
On Friday I was in Jenin with a United Nations convoy. It took six hours
before we were able to bring doctors, nurses, medical supplies and food to
the local hospitals. We were delayed by continually having to dodge tanks,
some with their barrels pointing at us, each one with its mini commander,
deciding whether we should be allowed to proceed any further down the road.
There was no one else on the roads in the town apart from us, but the
Israelis seem to be suspicious of everyone.
I have never seen international humanitarian agencies being denied access
like this. When we reached the entrance to the refugee camp, we could get no
further. Enormous tanks blocked the way. Neither of the small hospitals in
the vicinity had seen one dead body or one injured person, but they were
convinced that hundreds were dead or injured and that there were people
still alive under the rubble. One of the workers from the Red Cross had been
standing by for three days.
A UN ambulance showed bullet marks in its side. We learnt that the driver
had been arrested with the keys and the ambulance could not be moved. At one
point, when we were surrounded by menacing tanks sending up huge clouds of
dust, I managed to speak to Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary. He was
disturbed by the reports and was calling for international human rights
organisations to be allowed into the camp to make their own assessment.
Later in the afternoon we met the women and children who the Israelis had
sent out from the camp as they started their attack. The women were
naturally very upset. They were not interested in the UN food and clothing
supplies and instead kept calling for news of their husbands and sons, from
whom they had heard nothing for three days. They claimed to have seen people
stepping out into the camp's street with their hands above their heads, only
to be gunned down by the Israeli military. Some were killed outright while
others lay injured and bleeding on the ground.
There was a curfew in Jenin, which wasn't lifted in the eight hours we were
there, but we did meet a sea of men returning from an Israeli roll call of
every man in the town over the age of 16. The town's mayor was among them,
and was very angry and contemptuous of the UN and the international
community. He said that there were 1,000 people injured or dead. He claimed
it was a massacre which would go down in history like Sabra and Chatila in
Lebanon, where up to 2,000 Palestinians were slaughtered and for which Ariel
Sharon must hold a great deal of responsibility.
All the feeble calls of the international community have had no effect. The
Israelis, as Sharon has made quite clear, will stop when they want to and
not before. The fact that journalists get all the access they want to areas
where the Israelis have suffered suicide bombings but are denied access to
the occupied areas is deplorable. Independent monitors on the ground are
essential.
No political or security objective can justify targeting and punishing
civilians in this way.
It is not enough for the European countries to simply bleat in condemnation.
They need to withdraw European ambassadors from Israel. They need to impose
an immediate arms embargo, as Germany has done. They should consider what
economic sanctions can be put in place. The EU could suspend its agreement
giving Israel preferential trade terms, since the European public are
certainly demanding a much tougher line. After all, British taxpayers' money
already spent on infrastructure in the West Bank is being ground to dust by
the Israeli army. This is the moment when the European Union should show its
mettle and implement its own plan, regardless of the objections or
intransigence of the United States.
Until Ariel Sharon is forced to permit a viable Palestinian state to come
into existence, there cannot be an agreement on peace. Sooner or later,
Israel will have to end its occupation and give land back to the
Palestinians. At the moment, the Palestinian leadership is so beleaguered
that they are not in a position to negotiate anything. The Israelis' present
policy is not working, and the sooner they realise it the better.
The writer is the Labour MP for Cynon Valley, chairs the All-Party
Parliamentary Group on Human Rights and is a member of the International
Development Select Committee.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=285409
Letter from a Palestinian to an Israeli
By Hakam Kanafani
16 April 2002
Dear neighbour: I am in pain. I see people on the streets dying, I see
people in their homes bombed, I see people in restaurants killed. I decided
to write to you today despite all the barriers between us. This is just an
explanation of how we Palestinians think and what we Palestinians believe.
Maybe, just maybe, it will bring us closer.
Some of my words you will not trust. Some of my words will shock you.
Indeed, some might even hurt you. But you must read on because life is too
short and the land we share is too small. Because our children are too
troubled. Because our dreams are too precious.
Firstly, I believe in your right to exist in peace and security. I also
believe in a Palestinian state next to Israel, not instead of Israel. The
vast majority of Palestinians truly believe in this scenario.
Secondly, we believe the Israeli conscience is immune to the atrocities your
army and settlers commit against us.All Israeli terrorists are mere
lunatics, all the civilians you kill are by mistake, all the houses you
demolish are owned by sub-humans, all the people tortured in your detention
camps are terrorists, all the land you confiscate is biblical.
Thirdly, your moral argument concerning civilian casualties is, to us, the
pinnacle of hypocrisy. This is not because we are morally inept but because
your army does exactly the same thing you always deplore; your army kills
civilians almost daily. Civilians die and terrorism is committed whether you
use an F-16 or a car bomb.
Fourthly, Israel continues to down-play the occupation. For 35 years, you've
enslaved us. You never stopped building settlements. You've created
generations of Palestinian nothingness that can lead only to desperation and
violence. How did you expect us to react?
Fifthly, a powerful army can never extinguish a people's struggle for
independence and freedom. No leader (not even Arafat) can restrain a man who
saw his son beaten by a teenage, gun-happy soldier.You've planted the seeds,
you are now reaping the harvest.
I emphasise that I and the vast majority of Palestinians support Israel's
right to exist in safe, secure borders. This must be alongside a sovereign
Palestinian state, with east Jerusalem as its capital. You have a choice to
make. Either security and security, or military occupation. I know that
Palestine will be free. You will not run our lives anymore.
The author is the general manager of the Palestinian mobile phone company
Jawwal
Koroush Ghazi
The Israelis and the Arabs are equally at fault here, and neither are
related to Persians.
Just because Iran is under a religious dictatorship doesn't mean everyone on
SCI needs to be flooded with ill-thought crap being posted from both sides
of the war.
"I.R." <Let...@JustSayNoToPalestine.org> wrote in message
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Susan Cohen
Koroush Ghazi wrote:
> Do these rantings need to be on soc.culture.iranian?
> The Israelis and the Arabs are equally at fault here,
Well, once you make a bone-headed statement like
that, you're going to get bombarded much worse.
SCJ isn't the place for this stuff either, but everyone
assumes so as well.
Susan
MrMojoMan
"bone-headed" statements coming from SCI :-)
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Long live Iran, down with the Islamic Republic
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MrMojoMan
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"Susan Cohen" <fla...@his.com> wrote in message
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Amigocabal
Amid the ruins of Jenin, the
grisly evidence of a war crime
From Phil Reeves in Jenin
16 April 2002
A monstrous war crime that Israel has
homes. Much of the camp √ once home to 15,000
Palestinian
refugees from the 1948 war √ is falling down. Every
I.R.
But these weren't rantings. They were articles.
ir
"Koroush Ghazi" <King_o...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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Omri Schwarz
> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=285413
>
> Amid the ruins of Jenin, the grisly evidence of a war crime
7 bodies? Not evidence of anything.
--
Omri Schwarz --- ocs...@mit.edu ('h' before war)
Timeless wisdom of biomedical engineering: "Noise is principally
due to the presence of the patient." -- R.F. Farr
firefly
They lie all the time.
Koroush Ghazi
backward-thinking people (the Arabs) continue to kill and be killed by a
group of equally backward-thinking, highly organised people (the Israelis)
in the name of two very similar but essentially barbaric religions, how can
this hurt the Persians?
Neither side is fighting solely in the name of justice, and if anything, I
guess this war is helping people in other countries see the absolute folly
of blind religious obedience and the evils of Judaism and Islam.
So....when you think about it, it's really helping liberate people in
countries like Iran from any shred of delusions they had about organised
religion as an appropriate influence in world politics.
"MrMojoMan" <mr_mo...@yahoo.com.NOSPAM> wrote in message
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E. Barry Bruyea
wrote:
>Jews will deny they own mother.
>They lie all the time.
Just another post by a mentally challenged dipstick whose only purpose
is to waste bandwidth.
>
abdul hai
it is fighting terror
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/geneticdiseases/
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I.R.
ir
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I.R.
ir
"abdul hai" <ah...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Israel was not involved but it is a blessing because now it can claim
> it is fighting terror