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Swing Voter

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Feb 16, 2003, 11:44:30 AM2/16/03
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Will adults and average people be stuck in the 90's mainstream fashion
for a very long time? I've noticed that we really haven't made a
dramatic leap for the average person's mainstream fashion clothing and
hairstyling design or appearance the same way as in the past, like
from 50's Cadillac fashion to 70's bell bottom afro hair fashion. To
the 80's fashion.

Look at David Duchovny now, his clothing style is still pretty much
the same as when he first started acting on the X-Files TV series in
the early 90's. Even the clothing style of the characters on the
Simpsons Cartoon TV series haven't changed since it began in the early
90's. Well, maybe because they're cartoon characters. lol

I think average people like to stay in the 90's mainstream fashion
forever. Because not all grown ups and average people will look good
on retro. Or even by wearing wireless cyborg like electronic
wearables in the future, except of course if those electronic gadgets
become microscopic in size, as big as a watch, a pen, or a ring.

g0mem

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Feb 16, 2003, 7:34:15 PM2/16/03
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"Swing Voter" <swing_v...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Will adults and average people be stuck in the 90's mainstream fashion
> for a very long time? I've noticed that we really haven't made a
> dramatic leap for the average person's mainstream fashion clothing and
> hairstyling design or appearance the same way as in the past, like
> from 50's Cadillac fashion to 70's bell bottom afro hair fashion. To
> the 80's fashion.

I think that fashion is still changing, it's just that it's slowed down
somewhat. Like you don't get the extremes quite so much. People seem to be
wearing more practical clothing these days, e.g. fleeces. jeans and
T-shirts. Rather than the 80's power dressing and the 70's crushed velved,
corduroy, wide lapels and flares.

Mike Turner
G0MEM


P.M.

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Feb 17, 2003, 7:30:30 AM2/17/03
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"Swing Voter" <swing_v...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Will adults and average people be stuck in the 90's mainstream fashion
> for a very long time?

It is looking that way isn't it? Trouble is, fleeces and the materials
they're made from nowadays, T-shirts and jeans are so very comfortable to
wear aren't they? So who would want to throw them over for something
different now? They are also accepted now everywhere but for a few
work-places where the suit is still required to give an air of
respectability to a profession. Note though what those 'suit-wearers' get
into once home from the office ( fleeces and T-shirts!).
I must inform that I am 50 years old and so experienced all these changes
you speak of at first hand.
Looking back over fashion history, even before the 50's, I think almost
everything has been tried now, don't you? Which means that anything we come
up from now on, will probably always be 'retro' in some respect and merely a
rehashing of what's gone before. Apart from the "Space-age" tin foil suit
which still hasn't arrived, even though we were promised it back in the
50's.
I personally have always liked the fashions for men in the England of 1640,
but if I were to walk down the street wearing such attire, no one would
leave me alone, would they?
Then again, I should like to see women dressed in the French mode of 1800
( Empire line ) but that's my own particular kink, and I'm sure it's most
impractical. I'd say, early Egyptian too, but England is far too cold for
that.
So, I wear what everybody else is wearing to avoid people pointing and
sniggering. That's what fashion is really about isn't it. It's not that the
people of any time neccessarily liked wearing what they did, is it? They all
dressed that way because that is all that was available in their shops at
the time, and no one wants to stand out to be laughed at. A sort of, 'I wear
this, because everybody round here is' kind of thinking.
In conclusion, I wouldn't be surprised if the 90's dress modes hung around
for the next 200 years, I just hope the music doesn't.
What a thought!
That's my two cents.

Circe

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Feb 17, 2003, 10:09:17 AM2/17/03
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"Swing Voter" <swing_v...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Weird---was channel surfing the other day. Came across re-runs of "That 70s
Show", didn't know what I was watching, but I really liked the fashion and
interiors. When I found out what show it was, I killed myself laughing.

Circe


Swing Voter

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Feb 18, 2003, 4:59:42 AM2/18/03
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"P.M." <art...@yourdoor.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<b2qkh9$udl$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>...

> Looking back over fashion history, even before the 50's, I think almost
> everything has been tried now, don't you? Which means that anything we come
> up from now on, will probably always be 'retro' in some respect and merely a
> rehashing of what's gone before. Apart from the "Space-age" tin foil suit
> which still hasn't arrived, even though we were promised it back in the
> 50's.
> I personally have always liked the fashions for men in the England of 1640,
> but if I were to walk down the street wearing such attire, no one would
> leave me alone, would they?
> Then again, I should like to see women dressed in the French mode of 1800
> ( Empire line ) but that's my own particular kink, and I'm sure it's most
> impractical. I'd say, early Egyptian too, but England is far too cold for
> that.
> So, I wear what everybody else is wearing to avoid people pointing and
> sniggering.

LoL. I concur P.M. What was that futuristic musical movie? Xanadu?
There, the actors/actresses wearing silver padded tight clothing that
looked like was ripped off from an antique sofa? Man! Don't wanna
wear that in the future! No way Jose! But how about Victorian, eh?
Well somebody will say you're working in a theatre play. Lol.

However, I like the Japanese Kimono. It's a non tiring design for me.
I think a Japanese could wear that traditional attire at any part of
the world without being laughed at much, provided that they wear that
in cold places. Certainly they can't practically wear that on the
tropics! Although I've seen WWII movies which show Japanese wearing
kimonos on their conquered tropical lands. I also think that women of
all races would look good wearing kimonos. But I'm not sure about non
Asian looking men. Hmmm, well I think non Asian looking men would
also look good in dark colored Kimonos. Hmmm, they'll end up looking
like Jedi Knights. May the force be with you always! But definitely,
women of all races will certainly look good wearing kimonos.

Swing Voter

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Feb 18, 2003, 11:12:01 AM2/18/03
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Yeah! Pretty much everything about 90's and post Y2K fashion is
borrowing, recycling, and rearranging. And you could almost wear used
stuff from the early 90's or even way way before that and nobody will
ever know the difference.

Dana Carpender

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Feb 18, 2003, 11:48:00 AM2/18/03
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When I lived in Chicago, I was just a mile or so from the section known
as Little Bombay, so I saw lots of Indian women and traditional Indian
women's clothing. Just beautiful, and flattering to a wide variety of
bodytypes. I always wished I could get away with wearing some of it,
but I'm so painfully white bread. I have the feeling everyone would
assume I was on my way to a costume party.
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Swing Voter

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Feb 19, 2003, 2:17:34 AM2/19/03
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Dana Carpender <dcar...@kiva.net> wrote in message news:<3E5263C0...@kiva.net>...

> When I lived in Chicago, I was just a mile or so from the section known
> as Little Bombay, so I saw lots of Indian women and traditional Indian
> women's clothing. Just beautiful, and flattering to a wide variety of
> bodytypes. I always wished I could get away with wearing some of it,
> but I'm so painfully white bread. I have the feeling everyone would
> assume I was on my way to a costume party.

Yeah! The female Indian dress in the movie Guru is lovely. I think
there's no problem with being a white girl and wearing other culture's
dresses. Because women regardless of their race can wear all types of
foreign clothes from the exotic to traditional, and still they'll look
good and natural in it. But men don't have much the same luck as
women. Well, men of all races can wear normal modern office clothes,
coat and neck tie and carry suit case and stuff, jeans, shorts,
regular t-shirts, modern clothes are universal to all men. But not
many men can wear other culture's traditional clothes and still look
good and natural in it, compared to women.

Diana Lee

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Feb 19, 2003, 11:06:26 AM2/19/03
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Unfortunately, it is this sexist attitude that makes the statement, But not many men can wear other culture's traditional clothes and still look good and natural in it, compared to women, seem to be true. We are all victims of sexist conditioning, both male and female, and we usually don't even know it.

Diana Lee
http://dianalee.com

P.M.

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Feb 19, 2003, 11:45:31 AM2/19/03
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Oooooh Wow! That really was a sexist statement wasn't it? Can't have things like that being said, can we? (  Even if it is true! ).
"Diana Lee" <di...@dianalee.com> wrote in message news:3E53AB85...@dianalee.com...

Diana Lee

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Feb 19, 2003, 12:07:45 PM2/19/03
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I didn't think of myself as a "feminist" until I had daughters. Now that I have a grandson I see and hear things that will influence how he sees himself. I hate the thought of that little boy being squashed into a mold.

Diana Lee
http://dianalee.com

"P.M." wrote:

Oooooh Wow! That really was a sexist statement wasn't it? Can't have things like that being said, can we? (  Even if it is true! ).

"Diana Lee" <di...@dianalee.com> wrote in message news:3E53AB85...@dianalee.com...Unfortunately, it is this sexist attitude that makes the statement, But not many men can wear other culture's traditional clothes and still look good and natural in it, compared to women, seem to be true. We are all victims of sexist conditioning, both male and female, and we usually don't even know it.

Martha Gallagher

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Feb 19, 2003, 7:49:41 PM2/19/03
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On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Dana Carpender wrote:

> Swing Voter wrote:
> >
> >
> > However, I like the Japanese Kimono. It's a non tiring design for me.
> > I think a Japanese could wear that traditional attire at any part of
> > the world without being laughed at much, provided that they wear that
> > in cold places. Certainly they can't practically wear that on the
> > tropics! Although I've seen WWII movies which show Japanese wearing
> > kimonos on their conquered tropical lands. I also think that women of
> > all races would look good wearing kimonos. But I'm not sure about non
> > Asian looking men. Hmmm, well I think non Asian looking men would
> > also look good in dark colored Kimonos. Hmmm, they'll end up looking
> > like Jedi Knights. May the force be with you always! But definitely,
> > women of all races will certainly look good wearing kimonos.
>
> When I lived in Chicago, I was just a mile or so from the section known
> as Little Bombay, so I saw lots of Indian women and traditional Indian
> women's clothing. Just beautiful, and flattering to a wide variety of
> bodytypes. I always wished I could get away with wearing some of it,
> but I'm so painfully white bread. I have the feeling everyone would
> assume I was on my way to a costume party.
>

This is so strange. I've actually been using my snow day looking for
kameez(s/es/en?) on ebay. There was a sort of cool one in the Peterman
catalog that sold out before I made up my mind to order it. I, too, am
about as white as they come, and I rather suspect that I'll look like some
sort of ashram wannabe, but I still think I'll order myself one when the
warmer weather comes. 'Course, whenever I hear someone say "when I am old
woman, I shall wear purple" I think, why wait? :-)

I'd love to be able to wear a sari, but even if my diet ends up making my
midriff something I'd be willing to expose, I know my own limitations well
enough to know that any article of clothing the depends on me wrapping and
pleating is just not gonna happen.

Martha

--
Begin where you are - but don't end there.

P.M.

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Feb 20, 2003, 5:28:52 AM2/20/03
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"Diana Lee" <di...@dianalee.com> wrote in message news:3E53B9E3...@dianalee.com...
I didn't think of myself as a "feminist" until I had daughters. Now that I have a grandson I see and hear things that will influence how he sees himself. I hate the thought of that little boy being squashed into a mold.

Diana Lee
http://dianalee.com

Yes, yes, yes, but don't you see, by calling yourself a 'feminist' you are perpetuating another sexist point of view. i,e. you infer that 'the feminine' is somehow superior to 'the masculine.' You don't want that little boy squashed into a mold.' Can I ask which mold you would like him to be squashed into then? Your one perhaps? Listen, I was a little boy once, and I was squashed into a mold. It was great!

But all this is a trifling diversion, a mere baggatelle, and fails to answer the question that the world needs to know the answer to right now! IS 90's FASHION HERE FOREVER???

 

Susie Ewing

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Feb 20, 2003, 10:13:38 AM2/20/03
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Yea, I concur too with P.M. That was a good post!

Susie Ewing

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Feb 20, 2003, 10:24:14 AM2/20/03
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No. It's changing to second-hand stuff I'm here to say. Soon everyone will realize that it's all ending up in the land fill and retro will turn to vintage will turn to recycle. Homemade versions, anti-corporate. That's my theory. Fleece however is made from recycled material from what I heard so there's lots of it around and it's cheap.

Fashion is also a "product" of the environment and the most popular/available materials. And a statement to the social world. The statement might be that there is too much garbage in the world and would they please stop producing so much crap. One good quality leather thing outlasts the synthetic thing by two or three years etc.

Or maybe someone will inject something into the fleece to make it into a new synthetic material. I don't undertsand why we can't have leather anymore, I know they are killing cows still, they must be using the fur in the food.
S

"P.M." wrote:

"Diana Lee" <di...@dianalee.com> wrote in message news:3E53B9E3...@dianalee.com...I didn't think of myself as a "feminist" until I had daughters. Now that I have a grandson I see and hear things that will influence how he sees himself. I hate the thought of that little boy being squashed into a mold.

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