Tel Aviv brothels 'modern-day slave trade' By Marion Marrache
TEL AVIV (August 27) - MK Zehava Gal-On went slumming last night. As head of the Knesset Committee of Inquiry into Trafficking in Women, she and two other members of the nine-member committee took the press on a fact-finding tour of Tel Aviv's brothels.
MK Marina Solotzkin and MK Tamar Gozansky also attended.
Shuki Baleli, Vice Squad chief for the Tel Aviv District, was the tour guide. He took the group to a small brothel, The Palace Club near the Diamond Exchange, where there were three women working, then to a larger establishment at the Yitzhak Sadeh section of town, where 12 women sat waiting for clients in the Banana Health Club.
"The point of this tour," said Gal-On, "is to see first-hand the places and the conditions, and to hear what the women feel."
Baleli said he is concerned about the state of the women's health.
He said they rarely ever go to a doctor unless they are in pain. "If they die, no one will even know who they are," he added.
"It is modern-day slave trade," said Gal-On, "and the sentences for the pimps are not harsh enough, as judges still do not take this matter seriously enough. They pay more attention to drug dealing and murder. At the worst, [the pimps] spend a couple of years in jail, but they make a fortune."
In the Banana Health Club, there were rooms with velvet-covered beds and built-in showers. Some rooms had hiding places under the beds in case of a raid, while others had secret passageways behind mirrors for a quick escape.
Bijou, the pimp at the Palace Club, said the women make NIS 150 for half-hour's work, which is split 50-50 with him. Gal-On said she doubted this, adding that at a similar place in Eilat, one pimp told her the women make NIS 120 - "NIS 100 for me, NIS 20 for them."
Baleli said the women receive a maximum of 20 percent of the take. Nevertheless, they are better off financially than they were at home in the former Soviet Union, he said.
Angela, a 24-year-old from Moscow, said that even though her entire family is in the FSU, she prefers to stay here. "Life is better," she said. "I don't know what else I could do."
There are 250 brothels in the Tel Aviv region, the largest number in the country, yet Supt. Pini Aviram, head of the team that investigates these cases, decries the fact that his team for this task comprises only four members, all Russian-speakers. "Our problem is manpower. We need people who can speak to the people in their own language, and properly interrogate them."
The tour was supposed to carry on to the old central bus station area, but the MKs decided they had seen enough
At least the Israelis are trying to do something about this problem. However, what about the Russian & Philippino & Pakistani woman, etc who are enslaved for sex in Arab countries? What is being done about their plight? In those countries they do not have a free press to publicise their cause. What about the women trafficked for the sex industry across the EU and the USA? Why highlight Israel alone NaziBoy Janus? I don't think you give a flying fuck for Russian woman. You are just looking for any excuse to throw mud at Israel.
Incidentally, according to one report I saw the PLO are major organisers of the sex trade. This way they raise cash in the similar way to the IRA's involvement in the drugs trade (as indeed also is the PLO).
On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:33:05 GMT, Ja...@artlover.com (Janus) wrote: >Tel Aviv brothels 'modern-day slave trade' >By Marion Marrache
>TEL AVIV (August 27) - MK Zehava Gal-On went slumming last night. As >head of the Knesset Committee of Inquiry into Trafficking in Women, >she and two other members of the nine-member committee took the press >on a fact-finding tour of Tel Aviv's brothels.
>MK Marina Solotzkin and MK Tamar Gozansky also attended.
>Shuki Baleli, Vice Squad chief for the Tel Aviv District, was the tour >guide. He took the group to a small brothel, The Palace Club near the >Diamond Exchange, where there were three women working, then to a >larger establishment at the Yitzhak Sadeh section of town, where 12 >women sat waiting for clients in the Banana Health Club.
>"The point of this tour," said Gal-On, "is to see first-hand the >places and the conditions, and to hear what the women feel."
>Baleli said he is concerned about the state of the women's health.
>He said they rarely ever go to a doctor unless they are in pain. "If >they die, no one will even know who they are," he added.
>"It is modern-day slave trade," said Gal-On, "and the sentences for >the pimps are not harsh enough, as judges still do not take this >matter seriously enough. They pay more attention to drug dealing and >murder. At the worst, [the pimps] spend a couple of years in jail, but >they make a fortune."
>In the Banana Health Club, there were rooms with velvet-covered beds >and built-in showers. Some rooms had hiding places under the beds in >case of a raid, while others had secret passageways behind mirrors for >a quick escape.
>Bijou, the pimp at the Palace Club, said the women make NIS 150 for >half-hour's work, which is split 50-50 with him. Gal-On said she >doubted this, adding that at a similar place in Eilat, one pimp told >her the women make NIS 120 - "NIS 100 for me, NIS 20 for them."
>Baleli said the women receive a maximum of 20 percent of the take. >Nevertheless, they are better off financially than they were at home >in the former Soviet Union, he said.
>Angela, a 24-year-old from Moscow, said that even though her entire >family is in the FSU, she prefers to stay here. "Life is better," she >said. "I don't know what else I could do."
>There are 250 brothels in the Tel Aviv region, the largest number in >the country, yet Supt. Pini Aviram, head of the team that investigates >these cases, decries the fact that his team for this task comprises >only four members, all Russian-speakers. "Our problem is manpower. We >need people who can speak to the people in their own language, and >properly interrogate them."
>The tour was supposed to carry on to the old central bus station area, >but the MKs decided they had seen enough
StephR wrote: > Russian women are sex slaves in shitloads of brothels - go to China and > check out how just many.
> Steph.
China is a big place. Too big to go looking at random. But since you have experience, just where should one go? But why go to China, when Tel Aviv is so much more convenient and western. They will gladly service you in Russian, or English, and probably in German, and accept payment in US$, Sterling, Deutchsmarks, or Euros, but probably not rubles.
Anyways, why are you trying to divert attention towards China?
Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj wrote in message <3B8B29EA.1D699...@bellsouth.net>... >StephR wrote:
>> Russian women are sex slaves in shitloads of brothels - go to China and >> check out how just many.
>> Steph.
>China is a big place. Too big to go looking at random. >But since you have experience, just where should one go? >But why go to China, when Tel Aviv is so much more >convenient and western. They will gladly service you >in Russian, or English, and probably in German, >and accept payment in US$, Sterling, Deutchsmarks, >or Euros, but probably not rubles.
>Anyways, why are you trying to divert attention towards >China?
>> Russian women are sex slaves in shitloads of brothels - go to China and >> check out how just many.
>> Steph.
>China is a big place. Too big to go looking at random. >But since you have experience, just where should one go? >But why go to China, when Tel Aviv is so much more >convenient and western. They will gladly service you >in Russian, or English, and probably in German, >and accept payment in US$, Sterling, Deutchsmarks, >or Euros, but probably not rubles.
>Anyways, why are you trying to divert attention towards >China?
Even more convenient is any large town or city in Europe. On the Czech side of the main road from Berlin to Prague, for example, you can buy a 16 year old girl for sex cheaper than you can buy a breakfast in the local transport cafe.
According to the reports I have seen (e.g. Haaretz Jan 25, 01) officers from the Palestinian Authority's "police" are operating brothels in the Gaza Strip.
The obvious point of the original article is not that the poster gives a fuck about the traffic in Russian women as he (she?) cares about any opportunity to defame Israel. This is perfectly clear from the ngs to which the article was trolled and the totally unbalanced nature of its content.
AG wrote: > Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj wrote in message <3B8B29EA.1D699...@bellsouth.net>... > >StephR wrote:
> >> Russian women are sex slaves in shitloads of brothels - go to China and > >> check out how just many.
> >> Steph.
> >China is a big place. Too big to go looking at random. > >But since you have experience, just where should one go? > >But why go to China, when Tel Aviv is so much more > >convenient and western. They will gladly service you > >in Russian, or English, and probably in German, > >and accept payment in US$, Sterling, Deutchsmarks, > >or Euros, but probably not rubles.
> >Anyways, why are you trying to divert attention towards > >China?
> And most of their customers are Muslim Arabs... That is a fact. > The like while meat...
Even if what you write were true, it does not change the facts about the white slave trade indulged in by the Israelis. All that your comment reveals is your attitudes towards the Palestinians. But back to your accusation. Please provide any untainted evidence that "most of their customers are Muslim Arabs"
Rigor Mortis wrote: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 01:19:38 -0400, "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <urj...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >StephR wrote:
> >> Russian women are sex slaves in shitloads of brothels - go to China and > >> check out how just many.
> >> Steph.
> >China is a big place. Too big to go looking at random. > >But since you have experience, just where should one go? > >But why go to China, when Tel Aviv is so much more > >convenient and western. They will gladly service you > >in Russian, or English, and probably in German, > >and accept payment in US$, Sterling, Deutchsmarks, > >or Euros, but probably not rubles.
> >Anyways, why are you trying to divert attention towards > >China?
> Even more convenient is any large town or city in Europe. > On the Czech side of the main road from Berlin to Prague, > for example, you can buy a 16 year old girl for sex cheaper > than you can buy a breakfast in the local transport cafe.
> According to the reports I have seen (e.g. Haaretz Jan 25, 01) > officers from the Palestinian Authority's "police" are operating > brothels in the Gaza Strip.
> The obvious point of the original article is not that the poster > gives a fuck about the traffic in Russian women as he (she?) > cares about any opportunity to defame Israel. This is perfectly > clear from the ngs to which the article was trolled and the > totally unbalanced nature of its content.
Indeed, it would have been better, had the original poster Ja...@artlover.com provided better cross referencing to the article which he/she posted. It appears to be from some Israeli newspaper.
" " " " Tel Aviv brothels 'modern-day slave trade' By Marion Marrache
TEL AVIV (August 27) - MK Zehava Gal-On went slumming last night. As head of the Knesset Committee of Inquiry into Trafficking in Women, she and two other members of the nine-member committee took the press on a fact-finding tour of Tel Aviv's brothels.
MK Marina Solotzkin and MK Tamar Gozansky also attended.
" " " " Therefore you can blame Marion Marrache and Zehava Gal-On on the "unbalanced" content!
Is there anything about the contents of the article which is untrue, or inaccurate? For example the methods used to keep the girls quiet?
Do you feel that your mud slinging in anyway changes the facts of the white slave trade practised by Israelis.
>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 01:19:38 -0400, "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <urj...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >StephR wrote:
>> >> Russian women are sex slaves in shitloads of brothels - go to China and >> >> check out how just many.
>> >> Steph.
>> >China is a big place. Too big to go looking at random. >> >But since you have experience, just where should one go? >> >But why go to China, when Tel Aviv is so much more >> >convenient and western. They will gladly service you >> >in Russian, or English, and probably in German, >> >and accept payment in US$, Sterling, Deutchsmarks, >> >or Euros, but probably not rubles.
>> >Anyways, why are you trying to divert attention towards >> >China?
>> Even more convenient is any large town or city in Europe. >> On the Czech side of the main road from Berlin to Prague, >> for example, you can buy a 16 year old girl for sex cheaper >> than you can buy a breakfast in the local transport cafe.
>> According to the reports I have seen (e.g. Haaretz Jan 25, 01) >> officers from the Palestinian Authority's "police" are operating >> brothels in the Gaza Strip.
>> The obvious point of the original article is not that the poster >> gives a fuck about the traffic in Russian women as he (she?) >> cares about any opportunity to defame Israel. This is perfectly >> clear from the ngs to which the article was trolled and the >> totally unbalanced nature of its content.
>Indeed, it would have been better, had the original poster >Ja...@artlover.com provided better cross referencing to the >article which he/she posted. It appears to be from some >Israeli newspaper.
>TEL AVIV (August 27) - MK Zehava Gal-On went slumming last night. As >head of the Knesset Committee of Inquiry into Trafficking in Women, >she and two other members of the nine-member committee took the press >on a fact-finding tour of Tel Aviv's brothels.
>MK Marina Solotzkin and MK Tamar Gozansky also attended.
>" " " " >Therefore you can blame Marion Marrache and Zehava Gal-On on the >"unbalanced" content!
Maybe, assuming that the asshole who posted this stuff did not add a little extra. In any case, even assuming that the article has not been interfered with, the asshole is still responsible for what _he or she_ posted.
>Is there anything about the contents of the article which is >untrue, or inaccurate? For example the methods used to keep the >girls quiet?
How would I know? I don't even know if the article has not been doctored by the antisemite who posted it. I'll bet you can find Russian women in brothels across Europe from Poland to Spain and from Russian to the UK.
>Do you feel that your mud slinging in anyway changes the facts >of the white slave trade practised by Israelis.
I am not mud slinging (I'll leave that to the asshole who posted the original article). If he or she is that concerned about Russian woman and the slave trade let him post a full and detailed account from his own research concerning this evil trade as practised throughout much of the world (and not only concerning Russian women). However, that is not the agenda of the original poster. His/her sole purpose is to defame Israel by whatever means.
> > Russian women are sex slaves in shitloads of brothels - go to China and > > check out how just many.
> > Steph.
> China is a big place. Too big to go looking at random. > But since you have experience, just where should one go?
Go to ANY large hotel and look like you've got some $.
Steph.
> But why go to China, when Tel Aviv is so much more > convenient and western. > They will gladly service you > in Russian, or English, and probably in German, > and accept payment in US$, Sterling, Deutchsmarks, > or Euros, but probably not rubles.
They're called Hookers, and exist everywhere.
> Anyways, why are you trying to divert attention towards > China?
> > > Russian women are sex slaves in shitloads of brothels - go to China and > > > check out how just many.
> > > Steph.
> > China is a big place. Too big to go looking at random. > > But since you have experience, just where should one go?
> Go to ANY large hotel and look like you've got some $.
> Steph.
> > But why go to China, when Tel Aviv is so much more > > convenient and western. > > They will gladly service you > > in Russian, or English, and probably in German, > > and accept payment in US$, Sterling, Deutchsmarks, > > or Euros, but probably not rubles.
> They're called Hookers, and exist everywhere.
> > Anyways, why are you trying to divert attention towards > > China?
> Bcse you're a FUCKWIT who gets easily diverted.
> Steph.
I am not familiar with your technical terminology. Would you please explain your term FUCKWIT.
What you are describing in China are free agents. In Israel, in Tel Aviv they appear to be closeley kept by force in factory type establishments. There is a slight distinction between simple prostitution and sex slavery.
> > > > Russian women are sex slaves in shitloads of brothels - go to China and > > > > check out how just many.
> > > > Steph.
> > > China is a big place. Too big to go looking at random. > > > But since you have experience, just where should one go?
> > Go to ANY large hotel and look like you've got some $.
> > Steph.
> > > But why go to China, when Tel Aviv is so much more > > > convenient and western. > > > They will gladly service you > > > in Russian, or English, and probably in German, > > > and accept payment in US$, Sterling, Deutchsmarks, > > > or Euros, but probably not rubles.
> > They're called Hookers, and exist everywhere.
> > > Anyways, why are you trying to divert attention towards > > > China?
> > Bcse you're a FUCKWIT who gets easily diverted.
> > Steph.
> I am not familiar with your technical terminology. > Would you please explain your term FUCKWIT.
> What you are describing in China are free agents. > In Israel, in Tel Aviv they appear to be closeley kept by force > in factory type establishments. > There is a slight distinction between simple prostitution > and sex slavery.
Correct...the jewish mafia is to be feared..the myth of the russian mafia is a western thing..the russian mafia is in fact jewish...the jewish mafia kingpins of the sex slavery ,money laundering ,arms smuggling (ironically some weapons go to terrorists) receantly they have gained control of the designer drug empire..are major middlemen in most of the worlds other drugs..historically they were heavily involved in the african slave trade to the americas(despite great efforts to distance themselves)...Ironically there is a movement to recover damages for slavery which if succesful will target jewish companies identified with the slave trade..what goes around come around.. The power of the jewish mafia can be seen in the great Italian child snuff movie bust...child slaves were kidnapped to order by jews and raped by Jewish men and women, tortured to death...every scream and every agony filmed by the jewish spielburg wannabes... you would think that such a story would be sensational.. not withstanding that jewish pressure groups tried to hush up the arrests and pay off news mongels..what happened next was the Italian journalists outraged at the censorship took over the main Italian T.V centre and held out long enought against authorities to transmit the snuff movie tapes..Now that was sensational as well..two major world shaking stories..what happened they were killed everywhere..indeed in america you would have been hard pressed to find anything in the papers..the jewish mafia have powere bases in most countries and are truly international..quirky Isreali laws allow them bolt holes.. bribery and the perversion of justice allow them notice of any actions against them..Indeed the have close ties with Israelis secret services and sometimes the line blurs between agents and mafia..if indeed they do get caught the old blood money and calling in of favours and blackmail begins....
Please excuse the late arrival of this Limey into this forum, but please could someone tell me where does one find such female Russians in Israel working, or forced into such activities - so that these tales can be substantiated emperically, than mere hearsay rumours.
> > > > Russian women are sex slaves in shitloads of brothels - go to China and > > > > check out how just many.
> > > > Steph.
> > > China is a big place. Too big to go looking at random. > > > But since you have experience, just where should one go?
> > Go to ANY large hotel and look like you've got some $.
> > Steph.
> > > But why go to China, when Tel Aviv is so much more > > > convenient and western. > > > They will gladly service you > > > in Russian, or English, and probably in German, > > > and accept payment in US$, Sterling, Deutchsmarks, > > > or Euros, but probably not rubles.
> > They're called Hookers, and exist everywhere.
> > > Anyways, why are you trying to divert attention towards > > > China?
> > Bcse you're a FUCKWIT who gets easily diverted.
> > Steph.
> I am not familiar with your technical terminology. > Would you please explain your term FUCKWIT.
Of course you are - its the first name pple think of when they see you.
> What you are describing in China are free agents. > In Israel, in Tel Aviv they appear to be closeley kept by force > in factory type establishments.
Free agents in China ??? Its an industry like every else on this planet - familiar with the way multi million dollar industries operate ?? Hint: They operate the same from Tel Aviv to Beijing. Next time you visit a whorehouse in China ask your free agent about freedom.
Please lad do us all a favour and pop those prozacs bfre getting on Usenet.
> There is a slight distinction between simple prostitution > and sex slavery.
Yes, and its a difference you're incapable of identifying.
> Please excuse the late arrival of this Limey into this forum, but please > could someone tell me where does one find such female Russians in Israel > working, or forced into such activities - so that these tales can be > substantiated emperically, than mere hearsay rumours.
> Jim.
Well, local participants from Tel Aviv Israel would be the most reliable informatns. But to get you started, let me repost for you the article that started this exchange. It lists three establishments. Also I repost a url with good authoritative information. The url is: http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/catw/israel.htm
The article is:
Tel Aviv brothels 'modern-day slave trade' By Marion Marrache
TEL AVIV (August 27) - MK Zehava Gal-On went slumming last night. As head of the Knesset Committee of Inquiry into Trafficking in Women, she and two other members of the nine-member committee took the press on a fact-finding tour of Tel Aviv's brothels.
MK Marina Solotzkin and MK Tamar Gozansky also attended.
Shuki Baleli, Vice Squad chief for the Tel Aviv District, was the tour guide. He took the group to a small brothel, The Palace Club near the Diamond Exchange, where there were three women working, then to a larger establishment at the Yitzhak Sadeh section of town, where 12 women sat waiting for clients in the Banana Health Club.
"The point of this tour," said Gal-On, "is to see first-hand the places and the conditions, and to hear what the women feel."
Baleli said he is concerned about the state of the women's health.
He said they rarely ever go to a doctor unless they are in pain. "If they die, no one will even know who they are," he added.
"It is modern-day slave trade," said Gal-On, "and the sentences for the pimps are not harsh enough, as judges still do not take this matter seriously enough. They pay more attention to drug dealing and murder. At the worst, [the pimps] spend a couple of years in jail, but they make a fortune."
In the Banana Health Club, there were rooms with velvet-covered beds and built-in showers. Some rooms had hiding places under the beds in case of a raid, while others had secret passageways behind mirrors for a quick escape.
Bijou, the pimp at the Palace Club, said the women make NIS 150 for half-hour's work, which is split 50-50 with him. Gal-On said she doubted this, adding that at a similar place in Eilat, one pimp told her the women make NIS 120 - "NIS 100 for me, NIS 20 for them."
Baleli said the women receive a maximum of 20 percent of the take. Nevertheless, they are better off financially than they were at home in the former Soviet Union, he said.
Angela, a 24-year-old from Moscow, said that even though her entire family is in the FSU, she prefers to stay here. "Life is better," she said. "I don't know what else I could do."
There are 250 brothels in the Tel Aviv region, the largest number in the country, yet Supt. Pini Aviram, head of the team that investigates these cases, decries the fact that his team for this task comprises only four members, all Russian-speakers. "Our problem is manpower. We need people who can speak to the people in their own language, and properly interrogate them."
The tour was supposed to carry on to the old central bus station area, but the MKs decided they had seen enough --------------------- end of quoted article -------------------
And good luck on your fact finding mission. Do keep us informed of your discoveries?
On Sun, 02 Sep 2001 22:36:15 -0400, "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <urj...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>groundzero wrote:
>> Dear Reader,
>> Please excuse the late arrival of this Limey into this forum, but please >> could someone tell me where does one find such female Russians in Israel >> working, or forced into such activities - so that these tales can be >> substantiated emperically, than mere hearsay rumours.
>> Jim.
The objection is not to you posting the article (assuming that you have not added a little editing yourself). The objection is that the subject heading "Russian women are sex slaves in Israeli brothels" is not justified by the article. Maybe your English language comprehension is not up to it, but the sentence "It is modern-day slave trade," (said Gal-On) is rhetorical (i.e. not meant to be taken as meaning that they really are slaves in the true sense of the word). In my opinion you are either a troll or an antisemite out to defame Jews by whatever means comes to hand.
>Well, local participants from Tel Aviv Israel would be the most reliable >informatns. But to get you started, let me repost for you the article that >started this exchange. It lists three establishments. Also I repost a url >with good authoritative information. >The url is: > http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/catw/israel.htm
>The article is:
>Tel Aviv brothels 'modern-day slave trade' >By Marion Marrache
>TEL AVIV (August 27) - MK Zehava Gal-On went slumming last night. As >head of the Knesset Committee of Inquiry into Trafficking in Women, >she and two other members of the nine-member committee took the press >on a fact-finding tour of Tel Aviv's brothels.
>MK Marina Solotzkin and MK Tamar Gozansky also attended.
>Shuki Baleli, Vice Squad chief for the Tel Aviv District, was the tour >guide. He took the group to a small brothel, The Palace Club near the >Diamond Exchange, where there were three women working, then to a >larger establishment at the Yitzhak Sadeh section of town, where 12 >women sat waiting for clients in the Banana Health Club.
>"The point of this tour," said Gal-On, "is to see first-hand the >places and the conditions, and to hear what the women feel."
>Baleli said he is concerned about the state of the women's health.
>He said they rarely ever go to a doctor unless they are in pain. "If >they die, no one will even know who they are," he added.
>"It is modern-day slave trade," said Gal-On, "and the sentences for >the pimps are not harsh enough, as judges still do not take this >matter seriously enough. They pay more attention to drug dealing and >murder. At the worst, [the pimps] spend a couple of years in jail, but >they make a fortune."
>In the Banana Health Club, there were rooms with velvet-covered beds >and built-in showers. Some rooms had hiding places under the beds in >case of a raid, while others had secret passageways behind mirrors for >a quick escape.
>Bijou, the pimp at the Palace Club, said the women make NIS 150 for >half-hour's work, which is split 50-50 with him. Gal-On said she >doubted this, adding that at a similar place in Eilat, one pimp told >her the women make NIS 120 - "NIS 100 for me, NIS 20 for them."
>Baleli said the women receive a maximum of 20 percent of the take. >Nevertheless, they are better off financially than they were at home >in the former Soviet Union, he said.
>Angela, a 24-year-old from Moscow, said that even though her entire >family is in the FSU, she prefers to stay here. "Life is better," she >said. "I don't know what else I could do."
>There are 250 brothels in the Tel Aviv region, the largest number in >the country, yet Supt. Pini Aviram, head of the team that investigates >these cases, decries the fact that his team for this task comprises >only four members, all Russian-speakers. "Our problem is manpower. We >need people who can speak to the people in their own language, and >properly interrogate them."
>The tour was supposed to carry on to the old central bus station area, >but the MKs decided they had seen enough >--------------------- end of quoted article -------------------
>And good luck on your fact finding mission. >Do keep us informed of your discoveries?
Rigor Mortis wrote: > On Sun, 02 Sep 2001 22:36:15 -0400, "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <urj...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >groundzero wrote:
> >> Dear Reader,
> >> Please excuse the late arrival of this Limey into this forum, but please > >> could someone tell me where does one find such female Russians in Israel > >> working, or forced into such activities - so that these tales can be > >> substantiated emperically, than mere hearsay rumours.
> >> Jim.
> The objection is not to you posting the article (assuming that you > have not added a little editing yourself).
The article which I reposted, was originaly posted to: scr, scj, sci ... on 8/26. Here is the header, and you may verify that nothing was modified by me.
From: Ja...@artlover.com (Janus) Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.palestine, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.europe, soc.culture.british, soc.culture.israel, soc.culture.jewish Subject: Russian women are sex slaves in Israeli brothels Organization: Janus Reply-To: Ja...@artlover.com Message-ID: <3b89941e.25471966@news> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 59 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:33:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.101.179.78 X-Complaints-To: ab...@home.net X-Trace: news3.rdc1.on.home.com 998872385 24.101.179.78 (Sun, 26 Aug 2001 17:33:05 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 17:33:05 PDT
If the article has expired on your local server, you should be able to retrieve it on Google.
> The objection is that the > subject heading "Russian women are sex slaves in Israeli brothels" > is not justified by the article. Maybe your English language comprehension > is not up to it, but the sentence "It is modern-day slave trade," > (said Gal-On) is rhetorical (i.e. not meant to be taken as meaning that > they really are slaves in the true sense of the word). In my opinion > you are either a troll or an antisemite out to defame Jews by whatever > means comes to hand.
This article does not stand on its lonesome in a vacuum. Many of the other articles describe the slavery aspect: enforced servitude, buying and selling of the women, etc. of the situation in more detail. So the statement "It is a modern-day slave trade" is a simple description of the realities. No rhetoric involved.
> >Well, local participants from Tel Aviv Israel would be the most reliable > >informants. But to get you started, let me repost for you the article that > >started this exchange. It lists three establishments. Also I repost a url > >with good authoritative information. > >The url is: > > http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/catw/israel.htm
> >TEL AVIV (August 27) - MK Zehava Gal-On went slumming last night. As > >head of the Knesset Committee of Inquiry into Trafficking in Women, > >she and two other members of the nine-member committee took the press > >on a fact-finding tour of Tel Aviv's brothels.
> >MK Marina Solotzkin and MK Tamar Gozansky also attended.
> >Shuki Baleli, Vice Squad chief for the Tel Aviv District, was the tour > >guide. He took the group to a small brothel, The Palace Club near the > >Diamond Exchange, where there were three women working, then to a > >larger establishment at the Yitzhak Sadeh section of town, where 12 > >women sat waiting for clients in the Banana Health Club.
> >"The point of this tour," said Gal-On, "is to see first-hand the > >places and the conditions, and to hear what the women feel."
> >Baleli said he is concerned about the state of the women's health.
> >He said they rarely ever go to a doctor unless they are in pain. "If > >they die, no one will even know who they are," he added.
> >"It is modern-day slave trade," said Gal-On, "and the sentences for > >the pimps are not harsh enough, as judges still do not take this > >matter seriously enough. They pay more attention to drug dealing and > >murder. At the worst, [the pimps] spend a couple of years in jail, but > >they make a fortune."
> >In the Banana Health Club, there were rooms with velvet-covered beds > >and built-in showers. Some rooms had hiding places under the beds in > >case of a raid, while others had secret passageways behind mirrors for > >a quick escape.
> >Bijou, the pimp at the Palace Club, said the women make NIS 150 for > >half-hour's work, which is split 50-50 with him. Gal-On said she > >doubted this, adding that at a similar place in Eilat, one pimp told > >her the women make NIS 120 - "NIS 100 for me, NIS 20 for them."
> >Baleli said the women receive a maximum of 20 percent of the take. > >Nevertheless, they are better off financially than they were at home > >in the former Soviet Union, he said.
> >Angela, a 24-year-old from Moscow, said that even though her entire > >family is in the FSU, she prefers to stay here. "Life is better," she > >said. "I don't know what else I could do."
> >There are 250 brothels in the Tel Aviv region, the largest number in > >the country, yet Supt. Pini Aviram, head of the team that investigates > >these cases, decries the fact that his team for this task comprises > >only four members, all Russian-speakers. "Our problem is manpower. We > >need people who can speak to the people in their own language, and > >properly interrogate them."
> >The tour was supposed to carry on to the old central bus station area, > >but the MKs decided they had seen enough > >--------------------- end of quoted article -------------------
> >And good luck on your fact finding mission. > >Do keep us informed of your discoveries?
