Palestinian jihadists attacked Rafah base, says military source

[Surfer]

http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/palestinian-jihadists-attacked-rafah-base-says-military-source

"....The perpetrators of a deadly attack on an army camp in Rafah
which killed 16 Egyptian soldiers in August, included 40 Palestinian
Jihadists, an informed military source told the privately-owned
Shorouk newspaper...."

[NEMO]

Good, good, let the fuckin' porch - monkeys blow eachother away!

[HHW]

On Mar 17, 9:53 am, Surfer <n...@spam.net> wrote:
> http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/palestinian-jihadists-attacked-r...

>
> "....The perpetrators of a deadly attack on an army camp in Rafah
> which killed 16 Egyptian soldiers in August, included 40 Palestinian
> Jihadists, an informed military source told the privately-owned
> Shorouk newspaper...."

Come on, Surfer, avoid the most obvious pitfalls at least. If this was
Palestinians attacking Egyptians, what was Jihadist about it? What
matters is whether one can understand what the politics of it were.
And this article doesn't help a bit. Were I you I'd be trying to find
the answer, not just stooping to label people to no end.

[HHW]

On Mar 17, 3:24 pm, NEMO <brianlambsbig...@excite.com> wrote:
> Good, good, let the fuckin' porch - monkeys blow eachother away!

Just right, keep up the good work.

[NEMO]

[someone-who-knows]

In article <6c577986-4246-4af4...@i5g2000pbj.googlegroups.com>,

HHW <coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mar 17, 9:53�am, Surfer <n...@spam.net> wrote:

>> http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/palestinian-jihadists-attacked-r...
>>
>> "....The perpetrators of a deadly attack on an army camp in Rafah
>> which killed 16 Egyptian soldiers in August, included 40 Palestinian
>> Jihadists, an informed military source told the privately-owned
>> Shorouk newspaper...."

> Come on, Surfer, avoid the most obvious pitfalls at least. If this was
> Palestinians attacking Egyptians,

It obviously was.

> what was Jihadist about it?

An attack on a regime which they view as one which betrays
the values of Islam.

> What matters is whether one can understand what the politics of it were.

That's pretty obvious.

> And this article doesn't help a bit. Were I you I'd be trying to find
> the answer, not just stooping to label people to no end.

WHAT?

[HHW]

On Mar 17, 5:04 pm, NEMO <brianlambsbig...@excite.com> wrote:
> Just right, keep up the good work.
>
> Good, good, let the fuckin' porch - monkeys blow eachother away!

No, no, good work is creative, not repetitive.

[HHW]

On Mar 17, 5:07 pm, someone-who-knows <someone-who-kn...@nospam.com>
wrote:
> In article <6c577986-4246-4af4-a1f1-530cc5e6f...@i5g2000pbj.googlegroups.com>,

>
> HHW  <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 17, 9:53 am, Surfer <n...@spam.net> wrote:
> >>http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/palestinian-jihadists-attacked-r...
>
> >> "....The perpetrators of a deadly attack on an army camp in Rafah
> >> which killed 16 Egyptian soldiers in August, included 40 Palestinian
> >> Jihadists, an informed military source told the privately-owned
> >> Shorouk newspaper...."
> > Come on, Surfer, avoid the most obvious pitfalls at least. If this was
> > Palestinians attacking Egyptians,
>
> It obviously was.
>
> > what was Jihadist about it?
>
> An attack on a regime which they view as one which betrays
> the values of Islam.

Eh what? There are multifarious sects in Islam. They get along.

>
> > What matters is whether one can understand what the politics of it were.
>
> That's pretty obvious.
>
> > And this article doesn't help a bit. Were I you I'd be trying to find
> > the answer, not just stooping to label people to no end.
>
> WHAT?

Go through the article and see if you can find something about what in
particular motivated the attack, and don't give us this Hasbara
bullshit about it being part of Arab culture, you know, terrorist to
the bone at birth, etc. Somewhere, probably in the Arabic press, their
motives have been discussed and dealt with intelligently. It was
probably done in the Hebrew press too which is much more free than
ours.

[NEMO]

" it being part of Arab culture, you know, terrorist to the bone at
birth, etc."

You finally hit the truth, Turncoat Charlie!

[HHW]

Well then, try this one; it references politics, the eternal
ingredient. After all, warfare, even terrorism, is nothing but
politics by another method.

Hamas denies role in the Rafah attack on Egyptian soldiers

Hamas denies involvement in the attack that killed 16 soldiers on the
Egyptian-Israel border in August 2012 and reiterates 'its commitment
to Egypt's security'

Ahram Online, Bassem Aly, Sunday 17 Mar 2013
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Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal and Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohammed
Badie, listens during a meeting with members of the Muslim Brotherhood
in Cairo, Egypt, Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012 (Photo: AP) Egypt, Saturday,
Jan. 21, 2012 (Photo:AP)

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Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh said on Saturday that Palestinians
would never forget the "sacrifices" made by Egypt for the Palestinian
cause.

"The security, stability and political strength [of Egypt] positively
reflect on the whole Arab world, and no one will accept interrupting
those elements," Haniyeh told El-Sayed El-Badawi, head of Egyptian
opposition liberal Wafd Party in a phone conversation reported by
Egypt's state-run news agency MENA.

Media controversy has been growing recently about who killed 16
Egyptian border guards near Rafah in the Sinai Peninsula last year,
following recent anonymous leaks that blamed perpetrators from Gaza.

Al-Ahram Al-Arabi, a state-run Egyptian weekly magazine, sparked
controversy on Thursday by claiming three Hamas members were
responsible for the operation.

The alleged perpetrators were Ayman Nofal, a leading figure in Hamas's
military wing, the Qassam Brigades, who escaped from an Egyptian
prison during the January 25 Revolution; Mohamed Ibrahim Abu-Shamala,
also known as Abu Khalil; and Raed Attar, who lead the team that
captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit in June 2006.

The magazine claimed security officials had confirmed the information,
adding the attack was carried out in response to the Egyptian
military's decision to destroy tunnels linking Egypt and Gaza, a
lifeline for people in the besieged enclave.

Other Egyptian tabloids, and some newspapers in the Gulf, also
circulated reports accusing Hamas members of orchestrating the attack.

Evidence shows 40 Hamas members carried out the Rafah attacks, claimed
an anonymous military source quoted by Egypt's Al-Shorouk newspaper on
Sunday.

The Egyptian armed forces issued a report last year saying the
perpetrators of the attack had entered Egypt from Gaza without
specifying their nationalities or political affiliations.

At the time, MENA quoted an anonymous Egyptian security official
claiming the attackers were Islamists who infiltrated Egypt from the
Gaza Strip via tunnels and were joined by Islamists from Al-Halal
Mountain and Al-Mahdia in eastern Sinai.

Hamas, the Islamist group that controls Gaza, has vehemently denied
any involvement in the attack on Egyptian soldiers, and has deployed
its security forces to monitor the Gaza-Egypt border.

Meanwhile, the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, Supreme Guide Mohamed
Badie, met with Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal on Saturday at the group's
main headquarters in Cairo's Mokattam to discuss various issues of
mutual concern.

According to a statement published on the Muslim Brotherhood’s
official Facebook page, the meeting tackled several issues, including
Palestinian hunger strikers in Israeli prisons, the situation in both
the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, and the future of reconciliation
between Fatah and Hamas.

“Meshaal confirmed that Hamas along with the Palestinian people
respects the interests and security of Egypt,” read the statement,
adding that the Hamas government does not intend to interfere in any
of Egypt’s internal affairs as “Egypt represents strong support for
the Palestinian cause in the past, present and future.”

According to the statement, Meshaal told Badie that he is in touch
with the Egypt authorities, including the presidency and the general
intelligence service, to coordinate in serving Egypt’s national
security.

There have also been reports in both the Egyptian and the Israeli
media over the past few weeks that three training camps are operating
in northern Sinai, associated with Al-Qaeda linked Egyptian group
Ansar Al-Jihad, as well as other Islamist groups, Jund Muhammad, Jund
Al-Islam, Tawhid and the Gaza-based Al- Jihad.

These accusations were denied by Hamas as well.

"If this was true, the security bodies would have called and asked for
information about them, but this did not happen," MENA quoted Mahmoud
Al-Zahar, a Gaza-based senior Hamas leader, as saying.

"Relations between Hamas and Egypt are better than ever before," Al-
ZAhar said.

Al-Zahar added he was surprised by accusations against Hamas in the
Egyptian media, which he said were obtained from anonymous sources and
were unfounded.

He also said that he expects "the campaigns against Hamas" to continue
until the Egyptian parliamentary elections take place, and that they
will increase in severity during the elections.

In support of Hamas's denial of any involvement in the attack on the
Egyptian soldiers, El-Sayed El-Badawi reportedly told Haniyeh that
"media accusations" Hamas was responsible for the attack signify "part
of the internal political struggles" in Egypt.

Al-Zahar told MENA that President Morsi's government does not
prioritise supporting Hamas over Egyptian national interests, and
those who believed so were mistaken.

Good luck
with the analysis.

[NEMO]

Hamas denies ..........

Good luck!

[HHW]

On Mar 17, 11:21 pm, NEMO <brianlambsbig...@excite.com> wrote:
>  Hamas denies  ..........
>
> Good luck!

I make my luck as do all of us.

[NefeshBarYochai]

On Mar 18, 3:28 am, mirjam <mir...@actcom.co.il> wrote:
> On Monday, March 18, 2013 8:24:41 AM UTC+2, HHW wrote:
>
> HHW here is the Definition of the MEhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East
> look at the provided map
> The term Near East has been long outdated
> if i remember you only read it in older books
>
> Let see what Wikipedia says
> The term Near East was in use exclusively during the 2nd half of the 19th century. In the 1st half of the 20th century it began to share the geographical stage with the term Middle East. Since then Near East and Middle East have been approximately synonymous. Near East is used in some historic contexts and Middle East in others with no major semantic difference.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_East
>
> So now you not only showed lack of knowledge , but you also showed us that you are not up to date on the little you knew ...
> Israel is part of the ME !!!!!!
>
>
>
> > You should not lead off with a geographical absurdity. The East begins
>
> > at the east coast of the Mediterranean Sea. Its beginning can not be
>
> > its middle. You live in the Near East, my dear.
>
> Hahahaahhh Maybe that is your fantasy Mr HHW
> seems that your life hasn`t provided you with enough adventures
>
> > And, therefore, your fantasy is being murdered in your bed or,
>
> > better,  being abducted into the seraglio by a Sunni Sheik who looks
>
> > like Valentino and has ridden up on a black Arab stallion just for
>
> > you,
>
> Most Sheikh now have beautiful cars ,,,, and most of them do not resemble that Latin Hollywood make believe type.
> Thanks for the Comic relief !!!!!
>
> > or is it the Shia who fascinate you more? In your imagination do
>
> > they wear turbans and brandish scimitars?
>
> i see you have a taste for old Films .......
>
> I don`t know i am quite nice with my Arab Neighbors ? How are you doing with your Arab neighbors ???
> when did you last spend an evening with them? had a coffee and listened to some Good Classic Arab music ?
>
> HHW
> before showing your ignorance or Your deliberate distortion of historical facts meant just to spread your hate, Please read a Bit about Muhammad and his heritage and why the Islam divided into Sunni and Shiayte , And how ever since than they Fought amongst themselves Nothing to do with Non Muslims.
>
>
>
> >By and large they did get along at least well enough for them before
>
> > the arrival of the Jews and their camp followers, the Americans- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Mirjam I understand you are an expert on everything all the time. You
have all the answers. You are Landru. Let me ask you this. What is
the purpose of the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem? How does the Dome
of the Rock serve Judaism? Why is it there? Why isn't there a Temple
over the Har Moriah? I'm sure you will conveniently ignore these
questions but by some great miracle you decide to answer don't send me
e-mail, I'll just delete it without reading it, but should it be
possible by some magnificent gesture that you have come into the
wisdom and knowledge to answer these question publically please do it
here in the public bathhouse where we all wash each other with
pleasant platitudes.
Now break my fart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wigqKfLWjvM .

[plainolamerican]

On Mar 17, 10:53 am, Surfer <n...@spam.net> wrote:
> http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/palestinian-jihadists-attacked-r...
>

> "....The perpetrators of a deadly attack on an army camp in Rafah
> which killed 16 Egyptian soldiers in August, included 40 Palestinian
> Jihadists, an informed military source told the privately-owned
> Shorouk newspaper...."

Palestinian jihadists attacked Rafah base
---
not an American concern.

[HHW]

> questions but if by some great miracle you decide to answer don't send me

> e-mail, I'll just delete it without reading it, but should it be
> possible by some magnificent gesture that you have come into the

> wisdom and knowledge to answer these questions publicly, please do it

> here in the public bathhouse where we all wash each other with
> pleasant platitudes.

Excellent, Nefesh. Powerful. I have deleted only your closing fall
from grace.