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A LIST OF FAMOUS VEGETARIANS

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A LIST OF FAMOUS VEGETARIANS

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Famous Vegetarians

Abdul Kalam Dr., President of India and Space Scientist
Abraham Lincoln, former President of the United States
AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, founder of ISKCON/Hare Krishna
Adam Ant, musician
Adam Carson, drummer of AFI
Adam Russell, bassist of Story of the Year, vegan
Adriana Karembeu, model
Adriano Celentano, singer
Ahmet Zappa, musician and actor
Alan Donohue, singer of British rock band The Rakes, vegan
Alan Ford, actor, British
Alanis Morissette, singer
Albert Schweitzer, theologian, philosopher, and physician
Alexandra Paul, actress and environmental activist
Alice Walker, poet and writer
Alicia Silverstone, actress, vegan
Alison Lohman, actress
Allen Ginsberg, poet
Ally Sheedy, actress
Alyssa Milano, actress, vegan
Amber Benson, actress
Amber Valetta, model and actress
Amitabh Bachchan, Indian celebrity superstar
Amy Ray, musician from Indigo Girls
Andre Tonelli, musician and instrumental guitarist, vegan
Andre 3000 Benjamin, musician from OutKast, vegan
Andrew G, actor, vegan
Andrew (Whitey) White, musician and guitarist of Kaiser Chiefs
Andy Dick, comedian and actor
Andy Hurley, musician and drummer of Fall Out Boy, vegan
Andy Serkis, actor
Angela Bassett, actress
Angie Everhart, model and actress
Anna Paquin, actress and Oscar winner of The Piano
Annalise Braakensiek, model
Anne Hathaway, actress
Anoushka Shankar, musician and sitar virtuoso, vegan
Anthony Grayling, writer and columnist
Anthony Perkins, actor
Ariana Huffington, writer and polictical activist
Aristotle, Greek philosopher
Ashley Judd, actress
Avril Lavigne, singer and musician
Axella Johannesson, folk musician
Barbara Bouchet, actress
Barry White, musician, vegan
Beatrice Wood, artist
Belinda Carlisle, singer of the Go-Go's
Benjamin Zephaniah, performance poet and author, vegan
Benji Madden, musician and guitarist of Good Charlotte
Berkeley Breathed, cartoonist
Bernadette Peters, actress
Bif Naked, punk rocker, vegan
Bill Goldberg, world champion pro wrestler
Bill Pearl, bodybuilder
Bill Walton, NBA All-Star basketball player
Billie Jean King, tennis player
Billie Joe Armstrong, musician and singer of Greenday
Billy Idol, musician
Billy Martin, rock musician of Good Charlotte
Bob Barker, US TV show host
Bobby Rock, musician and drummer
Bobcat Goldthwait, comedian actor
Bonnie Raitt, musician and singer
Boy George, singer
Brad Pitt, actor
Brandon Barnes, musician of Rise Against
Brandon Boyd, musician of rock band Incubus
Brandy, R&B artist and singer
Brendon Urie, lead singer of Panic! at the Disco
Brian Bell, musician of Weezer, vegan
Brian Fair, singer of Shadows Fall
Brian Greene, theoretical physicist, vegan
Brian May, musician ex-Queen
Brigitte Bardot, French actress
Brooke Shields, actress
Bryan Adams, singer and songwriter, vegan
Bryce Dallas Howard, actress
Buddha, Indian Saint and Spiritual Master
Candice Bergen, actress
Carmen Miranda, Brazilian bombshell
Carole Bouquet, French actress
Carrie Underwood, country singer
Carrie Anne Moss, actress in Matrix trilogy, vegan
Casey Affleck, actor, vegan
Casey Kasem, US radio host, vegan
Catherine Spaak, actress
Cathy Guisewaite, writer of the comic CATHY
Cedric Bixler-Zavala, singer of The Mars Volta, vegan
Cesar Chavez, United Farm Workers union organizer
Chantal Coutier, makeup artist
Charles Darwin, renowned scientist
Charlie Heather, musician and drummer of Levellers
Charlie Watts, musician and drummer of Rolling Stones
Charlotte Bronte, novelist
Charlotte Laws, author, actress
Charlotte Ross, actress
Chelsea Clinton, daughter of Bill Clinton and Hilary Clinton
Cheryl Cole, singer of the Girls Aloud
Chia Collins, founder and COO of Lightlife Foods vegetarian products
Chris Evans, actor from Cellular and Fantastic Four
Chris Evert, American tennis legend
Chris Head, musician and guitarist of Anti-Flag
Chris No2, musician and bassist of Anti-Flag
Chris Pontius, actor on MTV
Chris Walla, guitarist of Death Cab for Cutie
Chrissie Hynde, rock singer, vegan
Christian Bale, actor
Christie Brinkley, model
Christina Applegate, actress
Christopher Amott, musician of Arch Enemy
Christopher Hills Dr., doctor who popularized microalgaes
Christy Turlington, supermodel
Cicely Tyson, actress
Cillian Murphy, Irish actor
Cindy Jackson, cosmetic surgery pioneer and author
Claudia Cardinale, Italian film star
Claudia Schiffer, supermodel
Clint Eastwood, actor and film director, vegan
Clint Walker, actor
Coretta Scott King, activist and wife of Martin Luther King Jr., vegan
Corey Feldman, actor
Crispian Mills, rock musician
Dalip Singh Rana, aka "Great Khali", professional Indian wrestler
Daman Albarn, singer for Blur
Dan Piraro, cartoonist, vegan
Dana Daurey, actress
Daniel Johns, musician of Silverchair, vegan
Daniel Kessler, musician and guitarist of Interpol
Danny Garcia, professional skateboarder
Danny Nova, singer and songwriter, vegan
Darren Boyd, actor, vegan
Dario Argento, writer, vegan
Daryl Hannah, actress and environmental activist, vegan
Dave Gorman, Comedian
Davey Havok, singer of AFI, vegan
Dean Ornish MD, doctor and author of The Life Choice Diet
Deepak Chopra, author and doctor
Dennis Kucinich, politician, vegan
Dennis Weaver, TV actor
Diane Keaton, actress
Diane Warren, songwriter
Dick Gregory, comedian and civil rights activist
Dick Lucas, musician of Subhumans
Diogenes, Greek philosopher
Dirk Bach, German actor and comedian
Dizzie Gillespie, famed jazz musician
Doctah B Sirius, music producer and natural health researcher
Doris Day, actress
Dustin Hoffman, actor
Dyan Canyon, actress
Ed Asner, actor and rights activist
Ed Begley Jr., actor and environmental activist, vegan
Ed Templeton, professional skateboarder
Eddie Jackson, musician of Queensryche
Eddie Lama, film maker
Eddie Vedder, singer and songwriter of Pearl Jam
Edward Furlong, actor
Edwin Moses, athlete
Elijah Wood, actor, vegan
Elizabeth Berkley, actress
Elvira Mistress of the Dark, actress
Emily Deschanel, actress, vegan
Emily Dickinson, writer and poet
Emmylou Harris, singer
Epicurus, Greek philosopher
Eric Johnson, guitarist
Eric Roberts, actor, vegan
Eric Stoltz, actor
Erykah Badu, R&B singer, vegan
Fat Mike, musician from NOFX
Fiona Apple, singer and songwriter, vegan
Forest Whitaker, actor
Forrest Kline, vocalist and guitarist for Hellogoodbye, vegan
Francis Lalanne, French singer
Frank Iero, musician of My Chemical Romance
Frank Marino, entertainer and drag queen
Franz Kafka, Jewish writer
Fred Mascherino, musician of Taking Back Sunday, vegan -info
Fred Schneider, musician of B-52's
Gabe Saporta, singer and lyricist of Cobra Starship, vegan
Gabrielle Miller, actress, vegan
Gandhi, Hindu spiritual leader
Gavin Rossdale, singer of BUSH
Geoff Rickly, singer of Thursday
Geoff Rowley, professional skateboarder, vegan
Geoffe Tate, singer of Queensryche
George Harrison, musician of the Beatles
George Bernard Shaw, writer
Gianni Morandi, Italian musician
Gillian Anderson, actress
Gina Lee Nolin, actress
Gloria Swanson, actress
Grace Slick, singer and songwriter, vegan
Grant Morrison, Scottish comic book writer
Greg Cipes, actor and musician, vegan
Greg German, actor
Gregory Smith, Child Prodigy
Gustave Flaubert, French novelist
H.G. Wells, English writer
Harriet Beecher Stowe, writer
Hayden Panettiere, actress
Hayley Mills, actress
Heather Mills, model, celebrity, and activist, vegan
Heather McAdams, author, cartoonist
Heather Small, singer, vegan
Helen and Scott Nearing, authors of The Good Life
Henry David Thoreau, poet and writer
Howard Lyman, former cattle rancher turned activist and author , vegan
Hunter Burgan, musician and bassist of AFI, vegan
Ian MacKaye, musician, vegan
Ian McKellan, British actor from Lord of the Rings
Immanuel Kant, philosopher
India Arie, singer and songwriter
Ingrid Newkirk, animal rights activist, vegan
Ira Glass, NPR's This American Life
Isa Chandra Moskowitz, punk rocker and vegan cookbook author , vegan
Isaac Bashevis Singer, Nobel Prize winner
Issa, musician from Good Clean Fun
Jade Puget, guitarist of AFI
James Cromwell, actor and animal rights advocate, vegan
Jamie Kennedy, comedian and actor
Jamie Lee Curtis, actress
Jane Goodall, primatologist, educator, and animal rights advocate
Jane Wiedlin, musician of the Go-Go's
Jared Leto, actor and singer of 30 Seconds to Mars
Jay Kordich, aka the Juiceman raw foodist
JD Fortune, singer of INXS
JD Salinger, American novelist
Jean-Jacques Rousseau, philosopher
Jeff Beck, guitarist
Jenna Jameson, porn actress
Jennifer Connelly, actress, vegan
Jenny Lewis, singer and composer for Rilo Kiley
Jenny Seagrove, actress
Jeph Howard, musician and bassist for The Used
Jeremy Cunningham, musician and bassist of Levellers
Jesus Christ, Christian saint and mystic
Jiddu Krishnamurti, spiritual teacher Eastern Indian
Joan Armatrading, singer
Joan Baez, American folk singer
Joan Jett, punk rock musician and singer
Joanne Rose, actor, vegan
Joaquin Phoenix, actor, vegan
Joe Principe, musician of Rise Against
Joel, musician of Good Charlotte
John Abraham, actor Bollywood
John Cleese, British actor and comedian of Monty Python
John Maxwell Coetzee, author/novelist
John Feldmann, musician of Goldfinger, vegan
John Lennon, Beatles singer and songwriter
John McDougall Dr., physician and author
John Melton, writer and politician
John Norris, MTV personality
John Peel, British DJ, vegan
John Robbins, activist and author, vegan
John Robb, musican and actor, vegan
John Tesh, TV personality/host
John Salley, NBA Champion
Johnny Cash, country musician
Johnny Marr, guitarist
Jon Anderson, musician of Yes
Jon Sevink, musician fiddle player of Levellers
Jonathan Richman, musician and singer, vegan
Jonathan Taylor Thomas, actor
Jorja Fox, actress
Josh Hartnett, actor
Joss Stone, British musician
Jovanotti (Lorenzo Cherubini), Italian singer/rapper
Julianna Margulies, actress
Julie Christie, English actress
Kal Penn, actor
K D Lang, singer, vegan
Kate Bush, singer and songwriter
Kate Winslet, actress
Kathy Johnson, gymnast
Keenan Ivory Wayans, actor and comedian
Kelly Osbourne, daughter of Ozzy Osbourne
Kenneth KB Charman, musician of Nonpoint
Kevin Nealon, comedian and actor, vegan
Killer Kowalski, professional wrestler
Kim Basinger, actress
Kirk Hammett, musician and guitarist of Metallica
Krist Novoselic, musician, bassist for Nirvana
Kirsten Johnson, actress
Kristen Bell, actress
KRS-One, musician Boogey Down Productions rapper
Kurt Halsey, artist, vegan
Kyle Vincent, singer and songwriter, vegan
Lady Bunny, entertainer and drag queen
Larry Hagman, actor
Larry Mullen Jr, musician of U2
LaToya Jackson, sister of Michael Jackson
Laura Nashman, musician
Lauren Bush, niece of George W. Bush
Leilani Munter, female race car driver
Leo Tolstoy, Russian writer and philosopher
Leonard Cohen, singer and songwriter
Leonardo Da Vinci, Italian painter and inventor, vegan
Leona Lewis, British Popstar, vegan
Linda Blair, actress, vegan
Linda Carter, actress known as Wonder Woman
Linda McCartney, cookbook author and wife of Paul McCartney
Lindsay Wagner, actress
Lisa Bonet, actress
Lisa Edelstein, actress
Lisa Kudrow, actress
Lisa Simpson, fictional cartoon character
Lord Byron, writer
Lori Petty, actress, vegan
Louisa May Alcott, American writer
Louise Burns, musician of Lillix
Luke Cummo, contender in UFC Ultimate Fighter, vegan
Lynda Stoner, actress, animal rights activist, vegan
Ma'ari Abul Ala'a al, Arabian poet
Mac Danzig, athlete, vegan
Marc Lavoine, French singer
Marcus Patrick, actor
Marcus Schankenberg, supermodel
Margi Coleman, singer and producer
Maria Rosaria Omaggio, Italian actress
Marilu Henner, actress and author
Mark Millar, Scottish comic book writer
Mark Twain, renowned American writer
Martha Plimpton, actress
Martin Shaw, actor, vegan
Martina Navratilova, tennis player and legend, vegan
Marty Feldman, comedian of Life of Brian
Marv Levy, football coach
Mary Shelley, novelist
Mary Tyler Moore, actress
Matthew Scully, conservative political speechwriter and author
Melanie Griffith, actress
Melissa Etheridge, musician, singer and songwriter
Meredith Baxter, singer
Michael Amott, musician and guitarist of Arch Enemys
Michael Bolton, singer and songwriter
Michael Eisner, entertainment businessman and former Disney CEO
Michael Franks, jazz musician
Michael Jackson, singer and The King of Pop
Michael Guy Chislett, musician, of The Academy Is...
Michel Sardou, French singer
Mike Farrell, actor
Mike Gordon, musician and bass player of Phish
Milo Ventimiglia, actor
Mireille Darc, French singer and actress
Missy Higgins, Australian singer and songwriter
Moby, musician and co-author, vegan
Montserrat Caballe, Spainsh opera singer
Morrissey, singer, vegan
Mr.(Fred) Rogers, TV personality/host and educator
Mr. Spock, fictional TV character of Star Trek
Naomi Watts, actress
Nastassja Kinski, actress
Natalie Merchant, songwriter and singer of 10000 Maniacs
Natalie Portman, actress, vegan
Nathalie Baye, French actress
Nellie McKay, actress, singer and songwriter
Nelly, rap musician
Nick Rhodes, musician of Duran Duran
Nicole Lapin, Journalist, CNN Anchor, vegan
Nikola Tesla, physicist and inventor
Nina Hagen, German punk rock singer
Noah Wyle and his wife Tracy, actor
Nolwenn Leroy, French singer
Norman Walker, doctor and longest lived raw foodist
Ocean, Indie musician and singer, vegan
Oleg Cassini, designer
Oliver Stone, American film director
Olivia Newton John, Australian singer and songwriter
Omar Epps, actor
Omar Hakim, singer, writer. and drummer
Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, musician of The Mars Volta, vegan
Orlando Bloom, actor
Orlando Jones, actor
Ornella Muti, Italian actress
Pamela Anderson, actress
Pamelyn Ferdin, actress and voice in Charlotte's Web, vegan
Paramahansa Yogananda, spiritual teacher and yogi from East India
Pat Neshek, professional baseball player, vegan
Pat Thetic, musician and drummer of Anti-Flag, vegan
Patrick Bauchau, actor
Patrick Flanagan, childhood genius and scientist
Patrick McDonnell, cartoonist and creator of Mutts
Paul McCartney, musician, singer and songwriter, Beatles guitarist
Paul Newman, actor and entreprenuer
Pauly Shore, comedian and actor
Percy Bysshe Shelley, writer
Persia White, singer and actress, vegan
Peter Gabriel, singer and songwriter
Peter Max, artist
Peter Sellers, actor and comedian
Petra Nemcova, model
Phil Lesh, musician and bass player of The Grateful Dead
Phil Ramone, record producer
Phylicia Rashad, actress
Pierce Brosnan, actor
Pink, American pop singer
PJ Harvey, musician, singer and songwriter
Plato, Greek philosopher and student of Socrates
Plutarch, Greek philosopher
Poly Styrene(Marion Elliot), musician of punk rock band X-ray Spex
Porphyry, Greek philosopher
Prince, musician, singer and songwriter
Prince Fielder, professional baseball player- info
Propagandhi Band, political punk rock band Ö all members, vegan
Pythagoras of Samos, Greek mathematician of Pythagorean Theorem
Quinn Allman, musician ot The Used, vegan
Rabindranath Tagore, Eastern Indian philosopher
Radha Mitchell, actress
Raffi, musician childrens tunes
Rainer Maria Rilke, writer
Ralph Waldo Emerson, writer and poet
Ramana Maharshi, Indian Saint and Spirtual Master
Richard Gere, actor
Richard Thompson, musician and songwriter
Richie Havens, musician
Ricki Lake, TV personality and actress
Ricky Williams, professional football player
Rider Strong, actor
Rikki Rocket, musician and drummer of Poison, vegan
Ringo Starr, musician and drummer of Beatles
Rita Moreno, actress
River Phoenix, actor, vegan
Rivers Cuomo, singer of Weezer
Robert Redford, actor and film producer
Robin Gibb, musician of Bee Gees, vegan
Rosa Parks, civil rights activist
Ru Paul, entertainer, drag queen, and activist
Ruben Studdard, American Idol singer
Russel Simmons, music producer and co-founder Def Records, vegan
Russel Brand, actor
RZA, musician and producer of The Wu-Tang Clan
Sade Adu, singer
Sadie Frost, ex-wife of Jude Law (formerly vegetarian)
Saint Angela Merici Saint
Saint David, Christian Welsh Saint, vegan
Saint Francesco d'Assisi, Saint
Salim Stoudamire, athelete
Samantha Eggar, actress
Samuel L. Jackson, actor
Sandra Bernhardt, comedian and actress
Sant Kirpal Singh Ji, Indian Saint and mystic
Sarahbeth Purcell, author
Sarah Connor, fictional character from Terminator film
Scott Adams, cartoonist and creator of 'dilbert'
Scott Jurek, athlete, vegan
Seal, singer and songwriter
Seamus Davey-Fitzpatrick, actor
Sean Conant, actor, vegan
Sean Lennon, musician and son of Yoko and John Lennon
Seba Johnson, Olympian, actress, and writer, vegan
Serenity, actress and porn star
Serge Raynaud de la Ferriere, Dr., founder of Universal Great Brotherhood
Serj Tankian, musician of System of a Down
Shane MacGowan, singer of The Pogues
Shane Sweet, actor, vegan
Shane Told, musician of Silverstein, vegan
Shania Twain, American country singer
Shannon Elizabeth, actress
Sinead O'Connor, Irish singer, vegan
Sir Isaac Newton, physicist
Sir Stafford Cripps, British statesman
Sky Valencia, model and founder of Vegan Vixens
Socrates, Greek philsopher
Sonya Fitzpatrick, aka the Pet Psychic
Sophie Monk, Australian singer and actress
Spike Milligan, comedian
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Spriritual leader
Stella McCartney, designer and daughter of Paul McCartney
Steve Bellamy, tennis coach and founder of The Tennis Channel
Steve Freund, Blues musician
Steve Howe, musician
Steve Kilbey, singer and lyricist of The Church, vegan
Steve Perry, musician
Steve Vai, musician
Stic.man, musician of Dead Prez , vegan
Sue Coe, New York City artist
Summer Phoenix, actress, vegan
Superman/Clark Kent, fictional superhero
Supreme Master Ching Hai, Spiritual leader, vegan
Susan St. James, actress
Susan B. Anthony, women's suffrage pinoeer
Suzanne Vega, singer and songwriter
Sydne Rome, actress
Taran Noah Smith, actor
Terry Geezer Butler, musician of Ozzy Osbourne Band, vegan
The Roots, all veg band
Thom Yorke, singer of Radiohead, vegan
Thomas Alva Edison, renowned inventor
Thora Birch, actress
Tim Butler, musician of Psychedelic Furs
Tim Commerford, musician of Rage Against the Machine, vegan
Tim McIlrath, musician of Rise Against, vegan
Tobey Maguire, actor
Todd Oldham, American fashion designer
Tom Lenk, TV actor of buffy vampire slayer villian
Tom Morello, activist and guitarist of Rage Against The Machine
Tom Scholz, musician and guitarist for Boston
Tony Gonzales, NFL Star, vegan
Tony LaRussa, baseball
Tony Levin, musician
Tracy Chapman, singer and songwriter
Travis Barker, muscian and drummer of Blink 182
Tyrone Willingham, football coach of Notre Dame
Uri Geller, actor and trick performer
Valerie Harper, actress
Valerie Kaprisky, actress
Vanessa A. Williams, actress and dancer, vegan
Vanna White, actress and TV personality
Venkatesh Prasad, Cricketer
Victoria Moran, author, vegan
Vincent van Gogh, Dutch Post-Impressionist artist
Voltaire, French writer and philosopher
Wayne Static, singer of the metal group Static-X
Weird Al Yankovic, comedian and musician, vegan
Wendy Malick, actress of Just Shoot Me
Wendy O'Williams, singer of Plasmatics
Wendy Turner, artist
Willem Dafoe, actor
William Blake, writer
William Shatner, actor
William Clay Ford Jr., CEO of Ford Motor company
Wolfgang Peterson, director
Woody Harrelson, actor and environmental activist, vegan
Yasmin Le Bon, supermodel
Yoko Ono, artist and wife of Beatles John Lennon
Zach Blair, musician of Rise Against
Zearle, hip hop artist and poet
. . .

http://www.happycow.net/famous_vegetarians.html

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pearl

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Thank you Jai. Because I was using this list to make
a specific point, Albert Einstein's name was omitted.

('The latest indications we have suggest that Einstein was
vegetarian only for the last year or so of his life, though he
appears to have supported the idea for many years before
practising it himself.

"So I am living without fats, without meat, without fish, but
am feeling quite well this way. It always seems to me that
man was not born to be a carnivore."

This was from a letter written to Hans Muehsam, and dated
March 30, 1954, which was about 1 year before Einstein
died. This indicates he adopted a vegetarian diet at the
end of his life. Previously, on August 3, 1953 Einstein had
written the following in a letter to Max Kariel, suggesting
that he was still eating meat at that time:

"I have always eaten animal flesh with a somewhat guilty
conscience." - Einstein Archive 60-058
..'
http://www.ivu.org/history/northam20a/einstein.html )

Also going back in - Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, actor
(fictional) of Simpsons, vegan.

On th other hand, Bill Goldberg, world champion pro
wrestler gets the boot.

P.S, Jai... sorry to say that your posts aren't getting through
to my newsreader (server) again. Reading this thru Groups.

Namasthe, Jai Maharajji. Thanks.

Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:

> A LIST OF FAMOUS VEGETARIANS
>
> Forwarded post from "pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie>
>
> Famous Vegetarians
>
> Abdul Kalam Dr., President of India and Space Scientist
> Abraham Lincoln, former President of the United States
> AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, founder of ISKCON/Hare Krishna
> Adam Ant, musician
> Adam Carson, drummer of AFI
> Adam Russell, bassist of Story of the Year, vegan
> Adriana Karembeu, model
> Adriano Celentano, singer
> Ahmet Zappa, musician and actor
> Alan Donohue, singer of British rock band The Rakes, vegan
> Alan Ford, actor, British
> Alanis Morissette, singer

Albert Einstein, renowned scientist - info

Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, actor (fictional) of Simpsons, vegan - info


> Ariana Huffington, writer and polictical activist
> Aristotle, Greek philosopher
> Ashley Judd, actress
> Avril Lavigne, singer and musician
> Axella Johannesson, folk musician
> Barbara Bouchet, actress
> Barry White, musician, vegan
> Beatrice Wood, artist
> Belinda Carlisle, singer of the Go-Go's
> Benjamin Zephaniah, performance poet and author, vegan
> Benji Madden, musician and guitarist of Good Charlotte
> Berkeley Breathed, cartoonist
> Bernadette Peters, actress
> Bif Naked, punk rocker, vegan

> Bill Pearl, bodybuilder

> Propagandhi Band, political punk rock band � all members, vegan

rpautrey2

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Good post! Thanks for the information. Paul


On Aug 25, 3:58 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.

mud...@sympatico.ca

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Aug 25, 2008, 11:54:19 AM8/25/08
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You missed ADOLF HITLER who was also a vegetarian!

rpautrey2

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On Aug 25, 10:54 am, mud...@sympatico.ca wrote:
> You missed ADOLF HITLER who was also a vegetarian!

Mud:
Josef Mengele was a Nazi SS MD!
Was he also a vegetarian?
Are all MD's Nazi SS?

Excerpt From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_of_Adolf_Hitler

Vegetarianism of Adolf Hitler
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scholars agree that, in addition to being a teetotaler and a non-
smoker,[1] Adolf Hitler practiced some form of vegetarianism.[2] The
vegetarianism of Adolph Hitler is thought to have been based on
Richard Wagner's anti-Semitic historical theories[3] which connected
the future of Germany with vegetarianism.[4][5] Hitler believed that a
vegetarian diet could both alleviate his personal health problems and
spiritually regenerate the human race.[5] In spite of these beliefs,
reports state that Hitler occasionally ate meat during the 1930s.
While Hitler reduced his meat consumption, he may have not eliminated
it entirely, with culinary accounts indicating a sporadic preference
for sausage, squab, liver dumplings, ham, and caviar.

Frank Arthur

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Aug 25, 2008, 4:27:14 PM8/25/08
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Tomatoes
Potatoes
Lettuce
Celery
Cabbage


Mark Thorson

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rpautrey2

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Aug 25, 2008, 5:50:59 PM8/25/08
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MT,
That was a good article.
Thanks,
Paul

Dutch

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Aug 25, 2008, 6:37:38 PM8/25/08
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Oops, the list is so long it would bring down the
internet.

vernono

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Aug 25, 2008, 7:48:16 PM8/25/08
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Hmmmm
Humans are omnivores.
Humans are designed to eat meat.
Substituting oils and proteins that are manufactured is a cop out.


pearl

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"vernono" <ver...@there.com> wrote in message news:0xHsk.97$if5...@fe119.usenetserver.com...

'There appears to be no threshold of plant-food enrichment or
minimization of fat intake beyond which further disease prevention does
not occur. These findings suggest that even small intakes of foods of
animal origin are associated with significant increases in plasma cholesterol
concentrations, which are associated, in turn, with significant increases in
chronic degenerative disease mortality rates. - Campbell TC, Junshi C.
Diet and chronic degenerative diseases: perspectives from China.
Am J Clin Nutr 1994 May;59(5 Suppl):1153S-1161S.

See: http://www.iol.ie/~creature/BiologicalAdaptations.htm .


vernono

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"pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote in message
news:g8vlba$23p$1...@reader01.news.esat.net...

Boy, are you WAAYYY out of touch with the generation of cholesterol.

WAAYY out.

Exactly what do you think cholesterol does?

Also complete elimination of ant "fats" as you call them can actually
decrease good cholesterol ( a requirement)

In case you didn't know cholesterol does NOT cause heart failures.


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Aug 26, 2008, 5:25:35 AM8/26/08
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Namaste, Pearl ji, you may wish to write to the system administrator
of your USENET provider about my posts not getting through to you.

In article <459f5809-4bf0-44f4...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
pearl <lil...@esatclear.ie> posted:

>
> Thank you Jai. Because I was using this list to make
> a specific point, Albert Einstein's name was omitted.
>
> ('The latest indications we have suggest that Einstein was
> vegetarian only for the last year or so of his life, though he
> appears to have supported the idea for many years before
> practising it himself.
>
> "So I am living without fats, without meat, without fish, but
> am feeling quite well this way. It always seems to me that
> man was not born to be a carnivore."
>
> This was from a letter written to Hans Muehsam, and dated
> March 30, 1954, which was about 1 year before Einstein
> died. This indicates he adopted a vegetarian diet at the
> end of his life. Previously, on August 3, 1953 Einstein had
> written the following in a letter to Max Kariel, suggesting
> that he was still eating meat at that time:
>
> "I have always eaten animal flesh with a somewhat guilty
> conscience." - Einstein Archive 60-058

> =2E.'

> > Propagandhi Band, political punk rock band =EF=BF=BD all members, vegan

pearl

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'Plasma lipids and diet groups
..
The most striking results from the analysis were the strong positive
associations between increasing consumption of animal fats and ischemic
heart disease mortality [death rate ratios (and 95% CIs) for the highest
third of intake compared with the lowest third in subjects with no prior
disease were 3.29 (1.50, 7.21) for total animal fat, 2.77 (1.25, 6.13)
for saturated animal fat, and 3.53 (1.57, 7.96) for dietary cholesterol;
P for trend: <0.01, <0.01, and <0.001, respectively]. In contrast, no
protective effects were noted for dietary fiber, fish, or alcohol consumption.
Consumption of eggs and cheese were both positively associated with
ischemic heart disease mortality in these subjects (P for trend, < 0.01 for
both foods).
..
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/70/3/525S


Dragonblaze

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[snip]

> Consumption of eggs and cheese were both positively associated with
> ischemic heart disease mortality in these subjects (P for trend, < 0.01 for
> both foods).
> ..http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/70/3/525S

Eating two eggs a day could CUT your cholesterol and help you lose
weight

By Daily Mail Reporter

Eating two eggs a day could help you lose weight and cut cholesterol
levels, say researchers.

Previously, there was thought to be a direct link between consuming
cholesterol-rich foods such as eggs and an increase in blood
cholesterol levels, which raises the risk of heart disease.

But research to be published in The European Journal of Nutrition
found that those who ate two eggs per day while on a calorie-
restricted diet not only lost weight - but also reduced their
cholesterol levels.

A team from Surrey University, led by Dr Bruce Griffin, fed two eggs
per day to almost 50 overweight but otherwise healthy volunteers for
12 weeks.

They also had to follow a reduced-calorie diet recommended by the
British Heart Foundation.

Another group followed the same diet, but cut out eggs altogether.
Both groups lost weight and saw a fall in the average level of blood
cholesterol.

Dr Griffin said: 'There is no convincing evidence to link an increased
intake of dietary cholesterol or eggs with coronary heart disease.
Indeed, eggs make a nutritional contribution to a healthy, calorie-
restricted diet.'

It is thought that eating eggs for breakfast contributes to weight
loss by making people-feel fuller for longer.

This research provides evidence to support the scientific consensus
that saturated fat, found in pastry, processed meats, biscuits and
cakes, is more responsible for raising blood cholesterol than
cholesterol-rich foods, such as eggs, which are low in saturated fat.

Britons eat 28million eggs a day - between two and three per person
per week - one of the lowest intakes in the world.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1049144/Eating-eggs-day-CUT-cholesterol-help-lose-weight.html

Raving

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On Aug 25, 4:58 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.

Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> A LIST OF FAMOUS VEGETARIANS
>
> Forwarded post from "pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie>
>
> Famous Vegetarians
>
> Abraham Lincoln, former President of the United States
> AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, founder of ISKCON/Hare Krishna
> Albert Schweitzer, theologian, philosopher, and physician
> Allen Ginsberg, poet
> Anthony Perkins, actor
> Aristotle, Greek philosopher

> Buddha, Indian Saint and Spiritual Master
> Cesar Chavez, United Farm Workers union organizer
> Charles Darwin, renowned scientist
> Charlotte Bronte, novelist
> Dennis Weaver, TV actor
> Diogenes, Greek philosopher

> Dizzie Gillespie, famed jazz musician
> Emily Dickinson, writer and poet
> Epicurus, Greek philosopher
> Franz Kafka, Jewish writer

> Gabrielle Miller, actress, vegan
> Gandhi, Hindu spiritual leader
> George Harrison, musician of the Beatles
> George Bernard Shaw, writer
> Gloria Swanson, actress

> Gustave Flaubert, French novelist
> H.G. Wells, English writer
> Harriet Beecher Stowe, writer
> Helen and Scott Nearing, authors of The Good Life
> Henry David Thoreau, poet and writer
> Immanuel Kant, philosopher
> Jean-Jacques Rousseau, philosopher

> Jesus Christ, Christian saint and mystic
> John Lennon, Beatles singer and songwriter
> John Peel, British DJ, vegan
> Johnny Cash, country musician
>
> read more »

harmony

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i know many cardiologists who warn against eggs. i know them to shun eggs in
their own diet.


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Frank Arthur

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I notice most if not all those vegetarians are dead!

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pearl

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> On 26 Aug, 15:31, "pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Consumption of eggs and cheese were both positively associated with
> > ischemic heart disease mortality in these subjects (P for trend, < 0.01 for
> > both foods).
> > ..http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/70/3/525S
>
> Eating two eggs a day could CUT your cholesterol and help you lose
> weight
..

> They also had to follow a reduced-calorie diet recommended by the
> British Heart Foundation.
>
> Another group followed the same diet, but cut out eggs altogether.
> Both groups lost weight and saw a fall in the average level of blood
> cholesterol.

Of course..

http://www.bhf.org.uk/keeping_your_heart_healthy/healthy_eating/what_is_a_healthy_diet.aspx

"A healthy diet contains plenty of fruit and vegetables and starchy foods
such as wholegrain bread, pasta and rice; and is low in fat (especially
saturated fat), salt and sugar.
..
Fats

Too much fat in your diet particularly saturated fat, can increase your blood
cholesterol levels which can increase your risk of developing coronary heart
disease. To help reduce your cholesterol level you should cut down on the
total amount of fat you eat and replace saturated fats with monounsaturates
and polyunsaturates and cut down on foods containing trans fats. "

> Dr Griffin said: 'There is no convincing evidence to link an increased
> intake of dietary cholesterol or eggs with coronary heart disease.

'EDITORIAL

Egg consumption in relation to cardiovascular disease and mortality: the
story gets more complex1,2
Robert H Eckel1
1 From the University of Colorado Denver, Aurora, CO
..
More egg on our faces? It's really hard to say at this point, but it still seems,
if you're a middle-aged male physician and enjoy eggs more than once a day,
that having some of the egg left on your face may be better than having it go
down your gullet. In this issue of the Journal, Djoussé and Gaziano (1) have
calculated an adjusted hazard ratio of 1.41 for all-cause mortality over a 20-y
span in 21 327 Harvard-educated male physicians who ate 1 egg/d. It is
important that a pattern of less frequent intake did not influence risk. However,
if diabetes was coexistent in these health care professionals, a trend existed
across a broader range of egg consumption.
..
It is of interest that the trend to higher risk in subjects with diabetes begins
at lower egg (yolk cholesterol) intakes. The expected effect on plasma LDL
cholesterol would be expected to be small.
..'
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/87/4/799


harmony

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most of humanity is dead.
just count all the humans that died since the inception of human life on
planet. fyi, however, hubble telscope informs that none of the trillions of
monothiest deads are not lurking in sky.


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Frank Arthur

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> most of humanity is dead.
> just count all the humans that died since the inception of human
> life on planet. fyi, however, hubble telscope informs that none of
> the trillions of monothiest deads are not lurking in sky.

You depend on the Hubble telescope to find people?

Kerry Ladd

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harmony wrote:
> i know many cardiologists who warn against eggs. i know them to shun eggs in
> their own diet.

Name one, you drunken slut.

Kerry Ladd

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harmony wrote:

> most of humanity is dead.
> just count all the humans that died since the inception of human life on
> planet. fyi, however, hubble telscope informs that none of the trillions of
> monothiest deads are not lurking in sky.

The Hubble Telescope can't "inform" anything or anyone about anything,
you drunken slut.
It's a machine.

Yet, YOU try to tell us that _your_ "gods inform"!


Kerry Ladd

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> On Aug 25, 4:58 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>
>>A LIST OF FAMOUS VEGETARIANS

>>Abraham Lincoln,


WRONG!
A meat AND Embryo eating "normal" person!

Jay Stevens ALWAYS lies!

harmony

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>
> "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:48b43834$0$4006$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>> most of humanity is dead.
>> just count all the humans that died since the inception of human life on
>> planet. fyi, however, hubble telscope informs that none of the trillions
>> of monothiest deads are not lurking in sky.
>
> You depend on the Hubble telescope to find people?
>

do you know of anything better to depend on for things in sky, real or
claimed?

pearl

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>
> > On Aug 25, 4:58 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> >
> >>A LIST OF FAMOUS VEGETARIANS
>
> >>Abraham Lincoln,
>
>
> WRONG!
> A meat AND Embryo eating "normal" person!

"I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights.
That is the way of a whole human being"
- Abraham Lincoln

> Jay Stevens ALWAYS lies!

Must be projection.

'At the same time that he was a Communist, Lincoln was also
a vegetarian, a socialist, a prohibitionist, a greenbacker, and a
proponent of Union Now.
..'
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/95nov/lincoln/lincrite.htm

pearl

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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:

> Namaste, Pearl ji, you may wish to write to the system administrator
> of your USENET provider about my posts not getting through to you.

Certainly.

vernono

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The above is a flat out lie and has ZERO support.
Get an education before you post lies.
You don't even know where heart disease comes from. You don't know the
ABSOLUTE necessity for certain fats.

Go suck on your hydrogenated fats and do us all a favor.


vernono

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"Dragonblaze" <drago...@apexmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 26 Aug, 15:31, "pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> Consumption of eggs and cheese were both positively associated with
>> ischemic heart disease mortality in these subjects (P for trend, < 0.01
>> for
>> both foods).
>> ..http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/70/3/525S
>
> Eating two eggs a day could CUT your cholesterol and help you lose
> weight

Real research has proven such about at least one whole egg a day.

pearl

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Woohoo.. baby spat its dummy out. There, there.... lol.


vernono

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>i know many cardiologists who warn against eggs. i know them to shun eggs
>in their own diet.
>


Yep, ignorance is there.
More people are KILLED by cardiologists and their suggestions than any other
profession.
At least two to one.

Be sure to take your statins. We are trying to reduce the population.


vernono

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"Kerry Ladd" <G...@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
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Actually, I could name several.


vernono

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"pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote in message
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> down your gullet. In this issue of the Journal, Djouss� and Gaziano (1)
> have
> calculated an adjusted hazard ratio of 1.41 for all-cause mortality over a
> 20-y
> span in 21 327 Harvard-educated male physicians who ate 1 egg/d. It is
> important that a pattern of less frequent intake did not influence risk.
> However,
> if diabetes was coexistent in these health care professionals, a trend
> existed
> across a broader range of egg consumption.
> ..
> It is of interest that the trend to higher risk in subjects with diabetes
> begins
> at lower egg (yolk cholesterol) intakes. The expected effect on plasma LDL
> cholesterol would be expected to be small.
> ..'
> http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/87/4/799
>
>

Now go find out what causes deposits no matter how much cholesterol is in
the blood.


Kerry Ladd

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harmony, the drunken hindu slut wrote:

> "Frank Arthur" <A...@Arthurian.com> wrote:

>>You depend on the Hubble telescope to find people?


> do you know of anything better to depend on for things in sky, real or
> claimed?

People!

After all, only YOU "think" that the Hubble Space telescope can count
people!

Damn, you hindu's are a dumb lot! :)

Kerry Ladd

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pearl wrote:

> "Kerry Ladd" <mailto:G...@Bass.gov> wrote in message news:48b443b1$0$7346$607e...@cv.net...
>
>>>On Aug 25, 4:58 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
>>>Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>A LIST OF FAMOUS VEGETARIANS
>>
>>>>Abraham Lincoln,
>>
>>
>>WRONG!
>> A meat AND Embryo eating "normal" person!
>
>
> "I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights.
> That is the way of a whole human being"
> - Abraham Lincoln
>
>
>>Jay Stevens ALWAYS lies!

That supposed quote has nothing to do with the price of cheese, or what
he DID ACTUALY eat, you retard!

You AND Jay Stevens(aka "Dr Jai") always fib!


pearl

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> Now go find out what causes deposits no matter how much cholesterol is in
> the blood.

'Heart Disease Information

Dr. Michael Klaper graduated from the University of Illinois College of
Medicine in Chicago in 1972. He Served his medical internship at Vancouver
General Hospital in British Columbia, Canada and took under took additional
training in surgery, anesthesiology, orthopedics and obstetrics at the
University of California Hospitals in San Francisco. Below is an excerpt of
an article on atherosclerosis by Dr. Klaper:

"My nutritional awakening began when I was on the cardiovascular anesthesia
service, and that's the service that deals with people's hearts and blood vessels.
And one evening I was making rounds to see a patient who was scheduled
for a four-vessel coronary by-pass several days hence and the man had been
out on a day-pass with his family before surgery, quite a common practice.
He had returned to the hospital rather late and the nurse notified me that there
were several blood tests that were missing off his chart that we needed to
repeat and so she asked if I would draw blood on the man, which I happily
did. And I drew some of his blood into a glass tube and I brought it to the
nurse's station and I let it sit there while I got busy with some work in the
ward and an hour and a half latter I went back to the nurse's station to take
the blood tube down to the laboratory, and what I saw in the blood tube gave
me a rude awakening.

When you draw blood into a glass tube and allow it to sit there for a couple
of hours, it separates out into two parts.

Here is normal blood on the left and you see the red clot on the bottom and
the clear liquid serum has risen up to the top. The serum should be transparent,
you should be able to see through normal serum. However, the blood in my
patient's tube looked very different. The serum that was floating on top of his
clot was thick and greasy white, it looked like ivory glue when I shook the
tube, the serum stuck to the sides of the tube. I went back into the room.
I said, "Sir, before you came back to the hospital tonight, did you stop off
anywhere from dinner?" He said, "Yes" I said, "Where?" and he said he had
stopped at his local gourmet restaurant and he had his usual fare, and I said,
"What did you have?"

"Well I had a double-bacon steerburger' with extra cheese and a milkshake,"
a common offering at such institutions. And at that point when he said that,
I realized what I was looking at in his blood tube. What was all the floating
on top of his blood tube, was all the beef-fat in the burger, it was all the
butterfat in the cheese, it was the butterfat in the ice-cream, it was the egg
yoke fat that was in the mayonnaise that was slathered on the bun. All the
fat that this man had eaten had oozed out into his bloodstream and turned
his blood fatty. This is a well known phenomenon, it is called lipima and it
happens every time you eat a fatty meal, a wave of fat goes through your
bloodstream. Not everybody shows it this optically densely, but everyone
has a wave of fat going through their bloodstream after a fatty meal, how
can it be any other way?"
..
I went back to my patient and discussed a bit about his dinner, but there
was not much to say because the fat was already in his blood. What was
especially disturbing to me however, was several days later we took him
down to the operating room. I gave the man a thousand micrograms of
pheontonel and put him to sleep, and the surgeon opened up his chest
and opened up his coronary arteries, and from this man's coronary
arteries he began pulling yellow, greasy, waxy, fatty deposits that look
like this:

[o]

What you are looking at is the plug of fat that built up in a man's right
coronary artery. The artery was a tube coming out at you from the screen.
The artery wall has been cut away and you are looking at the plug of fat that
built up. The fat started out at the outer edges of the artery wall and as the
months and years go by of these repeated tides of fat flowing through the
arteries, the fat starts building up on the inside of the arteries like scale builds
up in the inside of a hot water pipe. And as the months and years went by
the fat crowded in and crowded in on his blood flow channel till finally only
the small dark area was left for the blood to flow through and when a clot
formed here it stopped the blood flow the his heart, stopped his heart and
bought him a ticket to the autopsy table. This is the number one cause of
death in western societies. In North America every thirty seconds someone
grabs their chest and falls over with a heart attack because this greasy material
is clogging up arteries to their heart. This disease is called atherosclerosis, the
number one cause of death and disease in western societies.

[ ]
Saturated fat and cholesterol being removed from a coronary artery in a
patient's heart

This material is quite remarkable. When you send it down to the pathologist
and you ask him to do a chemical analysis the report always comes back the
same, saturated fat and cholesterol, essentially it's animal fat. The report from
the pathologist never, ever, ever contains the words remnants of broccoli, rice
and tofu. The good news is this stuff will melt away. If you clean up your diet
and start taking a walk everyday, and get rid of some of the stress that builds
up within you, this is a reversible disease and will melt away.
...'
http://www.newveg.av.org/optimum.htm


pearl

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Should do, and so did the cite you've snipped.

> You AND Jay Stevens(aka "Dr Jai") always fib!

Never.

You're looking even more ridiculous than ever. Pathetic.


vernono

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"pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote in message
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> "vernono" <ver...@there.com> wrote in message
> news:qvYsk.1809$if5....@fe119.usenetserver.com...
>
>> Now go find out what causes deposits no matter how much cholesterol is in
>> the blood.
>


What a stupid story having nothing to do with cholesterol and probably an
outright lie.

Of course, in your ignorance you don't know that statins cause more harm and
the "jelly" can be there with 170 or 370 cholesterol.
If it existed as you CLAIM, policosanol would be a solution.


vernono

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"pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote in message
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Go find some research (yes research) that was started AND analyzed since
1994. Most of the trash published is from 1972.

Or, maybe you enjoy killing people.


harmony

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>
> "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:48b42dbe$0$4019$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>i know many cardiologists who warn against eggs. i know them to shun eggs
>>in their own diet.
>>
>
>
> Yep, ignorance is there.
> More people are KILLED by cardiologists and their suggestions than any
> other profession.
> At least two to one.
>

and how many are saved by them?
why do you suppose dick chenney is still able to smile?


> Be sure to take your statins. We are trying to reduce the population.
>

for the success of your project:
"be the change you want to see in others" - vegetarian mahatma gandhi


vernono

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>
> "vernono" <ver...@there.com> wrote in message
> news:NsYsk.1807$if5...@fe119.usenetserver.com...
>>
>> "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:48b42dbe$0$4019$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>>i know many cardiologists who warn against eggs. i know them to shun eggs
>>>in their own diet.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yep, ignorance is there.
>> More people are KILLED by cardiologists and their suggestions than any
>> other profession.
>> At least two to one.
>>
>
> and how many are saved by them?
> why do you suppose dick chenney is still able to smile?
>
>
AND?

False science is still false science.

I said KILLED by.

Most saving is through surgeons.


harmony

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cardiologists for most part deal with highly advanced age group of people
where further life expectacy is very short to begin with.
even so, they are very helpful in providing improved quality life for that
group. i see them in action often.
however, the cardios could learn a few things about balanced veggie diet and
yoga and tantra for more effectiveness.


> Most saving is through surgeons.
>

cardiologists do perform invasive surgical procedures. stents are so
routine.


Kerry Ladd

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pearl wrote:

> "Kerry Ladd" <mailto:G...@Bass.gov> wrote in message news:48b45715$0$20899$607e...@cv.net...
>
>>pearl wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Kerry Ladd" <mailto:G...@Bass.gov> wrote in message news:48b443b1$0$7346$607e...@cv.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>>On Aug 25, 4:58 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
>>>>>Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>A LIST OF FAMOUS VEGETARIANS
>>>>
>>>>>>Abraham Lincoln,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>WRONG!
>>>> A meat AND Embryo eating "normal" person!
>>>
>>>
>>>"I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights.
>>>That is the way of a whole human being"
>>> - Abraham Lincoln
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jay Stevens ALWAYS lies!
>>
>>That supposed quote has nothing to do with the price of cheese, or what
>>he DID ACTUALY eat, you retard!
>
>
> Should do, and so did the cite you've snipped.


No Cite was snipped. you drunken cunt.


>
>
>>You AND Jay Stevens(aka "Dr Jai") always fib!
>
>
> Never.
>
> You're looking even more ridiculous than ever. Pathetic.

Then perhaps YOU can show and PROVE where "Dr.Jai" got his doctorate from?

He refuses to show it.

Sober up, you drunken, stupid Slut!

Ask him!

He will NOT reply!

Kerry Ladd

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vernono wrote:

> "Dragonblaze" <drago...@apexmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7be2b0b1-55de-4d2f...@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>>On 26 Aug, 15:31, "pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>
>>>Consumption of eggs and cheese were both positively associated with
>>>ischemic heart disease mortality in these subjects (P for trend, < 0.01
>>>for
>>>both foods).
>>>..http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/70/3/525S
>>
>>Eating two eggs a day could CUT your cholesterol and help you lose
>>weight
>
>
> Real research has proven such about at least one whole egg a day.


"Vegetarians" can NOT eat even ONE egg, EVER, as it an embryo that came
out of the ass end of A NON/or FLYING FEATHERED or Leathered critter!

Breast milk is also a "no-no" as well, as it too is derived from an
animal AND therefore... Animal stuff!

See how Foolish your pathetic system is?

Yet you "hindu's" drink yer own urine... marry snakes, dogs, and other
creatures for honor, and worship cows instead of eating them, while your
HUGE stump stupid population starves to death in India.. .all because of
a silly mutant "god" with a shit load of arms.

harmony

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"pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote in message
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hey pearl, that could have been my line - which i thought is best understood
unspoken.


vernono

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"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Try REAL HARD.
I didn't say die in the care of. I said KILLED by.

There really are cardiologist that have a 90% SUCCESS ratio.
They don't use voodoo. None go for the veggie thing.
Now they DO push for certain veggies and fruit and NOT at the exclusion of
meats.
The successful ones are very pro oily fish.
The veggies / fruits are high in phytonutrients.

>
>
>> Most saving is through surgeons.
>>
>
> cardiologists do perform invasive surgical procedures. stents are so
> routine.
>

Some do. About one in 7.
They almost never treat or consult except with regard to the surgery.


vernono

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"Kerry Ladd" <G...@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
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I'm not Hindu and I can follow a thread.

There are thousands dying from urine infested river water..

They also eat insects (not veggie)


Raving

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On Aug 25, 4:58 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> FAMOUS VEGETARIANS
>
> Forwarded post from "pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie>
>
> Famous Vegetarians
>
> Norman Walker, doctor and longest lived raw foodist


"...As of 2006, most book reviews and promotional web sites wrongly
claim that Walker reached the phenomenal age of, variously, 109, 113,
116, 118 or even 119 years. Several official sources[1][2][3] the U.S.
Social Security Death Index[4] and a grave marker[5] all indicate that
he actually lived to be 99 years of age...."

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Norman_W._Walker

Kerry Ladd

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vernono wrote:

Obviously not!

So the fuck what, anyway?
Are you a "REAL" Vegetarian" or not?

> There are thousands dying from urine infested river water..

Not my problem.
EAT the cows, before they and you drink the piss from the source!


> They also eat insects (not veggie)

High in protien!
So again, What is it with you that hates big tits filled with milk
,like nature intended, as well as a nice steak and lobster dinner?

Anthony Larkin

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A Vegetarian is a person who is nice to meat


pearl

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Aug 27, 2008, 7:40:54 AM8/27/08
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"Kerry Ladd" <mailto:G...@Bass.gov> wrote in message news:48b47c01$0$20937$607e...@cv.net...

> pearl wrote:
>
> > "Kerry Ladd" <mailto:G...@Bass.gov> wrote in message news:48b45715$0$20899$607e...@cv.net...
> >
> >>pearl wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Kerry Ladd" <mailto:G...@Bass.gov> wrote in message news:48b443b1$0$7346$607e...@cv.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>On Aug 25, 4:58 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> >>>>>Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>A LIST OF FAMOUS VEGETARIANS
> >>>>
> >>>>>>Abraham Lincoln,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>WRONG!
> >>>> A meat AND Embryo eating "normal" person!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights.
> >>>That is the way of a whole human being"
> >>> - Abraham Lincoln
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Jay Stevens ALWAYS lies!
> >>
> >>That supposed quote has nothing to do with the price of cheese, or what
> >>he DID ACTUALY eat, you retard!
> >
> >
> > Should do, and so did the cite you've snipped.
>
>
> No Cite was snipped.

'At the same time that he was a Communist, Lincoln was also


a vegetarian, a socialist, a prohibitionist, a greenbacker, and a
proponent of Union Now.
..'
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/95nov/lincoln/lincrite.htm

This is a well-researched article, in a mainstream publication.

> >>You AND Jay Stevens(aka "Dr Jai") always fib!
> >
> >
> > Never.
> >
> > You're looking even more ridiculous than ever. Pathetic.
>
> Then perhaps YOU can show and PROVE where "Dr.Jai" got his doctorate from?

Why do you doubt him? He's a professional Jyotishi - Vedic Astrologer.

'biography
Raj Jyotish Pundit Sati, comes from a tradition family of Vedic Astrologers
... Pundit Sati was presented his Doctorate, (PH.D) in Jyotish from Lal
Bahadur ...
www.astro-yagya.com/biography.html

'The Florida Vedic College is pursuing a renaissance of all the Vedic arts and
sciences in the traditional Vedic manner. We begin with Jyotisha Vedanga,
the Vedic science of Astrology. As students graduate up through the different
levels we will introduce new courses that illuminate this science from different
angles. The aim is that on completion the student will attain the degree of
Jyotisha Vidvan (equivalent of Bachelors). We also have post-graduate
programs offering higher degrees, that is, Jyotisha Siromani (Masters) and
Jyotisha Saraswati (Doctorate). Vedic Astrology is a demanding subject and
is considered the most difficult of all sciences. No former knowledge of the
science is presumed, but it is expected that the student be attracted to
spiritual life, is intelligent, serious, and motivated.
..'
http://www.floridavediccollege.edu/astrology_jyotisha.htm


pearl

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"vernono" <ver...@there.com> wrote in message news:e7Zsk.1443$gy4...@fe087.usenetserver.com...

>
> "pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote in message
> news:g91lg1$o58$1...@reader01.news.esat.net...
> > "vernono" <ver...@there.com> wrote in message
> > news:qvYsk.1809$if5....@fe119.usenetserver.com...
> >
> >> Now go find out what causes deposits no matter how much cholesterol is in
> >> the blood.
> >
>
>
> What a stupid story having nothing to do with cholesterol and probably an
> outright lie.

This has to be a troll.

obbz...@yahoo.com

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On Aug 25, 4:27 pm, "Frank Arthur" <A...@Arthurian.com> wrote:
> Tomatoes
> Potatoes
> Lettuce
> Celery
> Cabbage


Karen Ann Quinlan
Terry Schiavo
Ted Kennedy
Ariel Sharon
Ozzy Osbourne
Stephen Hawking
All Scientologists
carrots

pearl

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"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:48b484f9$0$4005$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...

Hi harmony. These flaming trolls always remind me of the Grimm's
Fairy Tale character Rumplestiltskin.. which is also best imagined..

"'Some witch told you that! - some witch told you that!' cried the little
man, and dashed his right foot in a rage so deep into the floor, that he
was forced to lay hold of it with both hands to pull it out.

Then he made the best of his way off, while the nurse laughed and the
baby crowed; and all the court jeered at him for having had so much
trouble for nothing, .."

http://www.mordent.com/folktales/grimms/rumplestiltskin/


Raving

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On Aug 27, 4:33 am, "Anthony Larkin" <foot...@eircom.net> wrote:
> A Vegetarian is a person who is nice to meat

"Save trees. Eat a beaver."

Raving

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Raving

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On Aug 27, 9:00 am, "pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote:
> "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:48b484f9$0$4005$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...

lol

... a few veg short for the full minestrone.

dh

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On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:58:47 GMT, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:

>Jesus Christ, Christian saint and mystic

Give special notice to Mark 7, Mark 14, Luke 24 and John 21:

Genesis 4
3 In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil
as an offering to the LORD.
4 But Abel brought fat portions from some of the firstborn of his
flock. The LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering,
5 but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain
was very angry, and his face was downcast.

Genesis 9
1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful
and increase in number and fill the earth.
2 The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth
and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along
the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into
your hands.
3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave
you the green plants, I now give you everything.
4 "But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.
5 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will
demand an accounting from every animal. And from each man, too,
I will demand an accounting for the life of his fellow man.

Exodus 12
1 The LORD said to Moses and Aaron in Egypt,
2 "This month is to be for you the first month, the first month of
your year.
3 Tell the whole community of Israel that on the tenth day of this
month each man is to take a lamb for his family, one for each
household.
[...]
6 Take care of them until the fourteenth day of the month, when
all the people of the community of Israel must slaughter them
at twilight.
7 Then they are to take some of the blood and put it on the sides
and tops of the doorframes of the houses where they eat the
lambs.
8 That same night they are to eat the meat roasted over the fire,
along with bitter herbs, and bread made without yeast.
9 Do not eat the meat raw or cooked in water, but roast it over
the fire-head, legs and inner parts.
[...]
14 "This is a day you are to commemorate; for the generations to come you
shall celebrate it as a festival to the LORD -a lasting ordinance.

Leviticus 1
1 The LORD called to Moses and spoke to him from the Tent of Meeting.
He said,
2 "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: `When any of you brings an
offering to the LORD, bring as your offering an animal from either
the herd or the flock.
3 "`If the offering is a burnt offering from the herd, he is to offer
a male without defect. He must present it at the entrance to the Tent
of Meeting so that it[1] will be acceptable to the LORD.
4 He is to lay his hand on the head of the burnt offering, and it will
be accepted on his behalf to make atonement for him.
5 He is to slaughter the young bull before the LORD, and then Aaron's
sons the priests shall bring the blood and sprinkle it against the
altar on all sides at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting.
6 He is to skin the burnt offering and cut it into pieces.
7 The sons of Aaron the priest are to put fire on the altar and arrange
wood on the fire.
8 Then Aaron's sons the priests shall arrange the pieces, including the
head and the fat, on the burning wood that is on the altar.
9 He is to wash the inner parts and the legs with water, and the priest
is to burn all of it on the altar. It is a burnt offering, an offering
made by fire, an aroma pleasing to the LORD.

Leviticus 12
6 " 'When the days of her purification for a son or daughter are over,
she is to bring to the priest at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting a
year-old lamb for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or a dove for
a sin offering.
7 He shall offer them before the LORD to make atonement for her, and
then she will be ceremonially clean from her flow of blood. " 'These are
the regulations for the woman who gives birth to a boy or a girl.
8 If she cannot afford a lamb, she is to bring two doves or two young
pigeons, one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering. In this
way the priest will make atonement for her, and she will be clean.' "

Deuteronomy 12
15 Nevertheless, you may slaughter your animals in any of your
towns and eat as much of the meat as you want, as if it were
gazelle or deer, according to the blessing the LORD your
God gives you. Both the ceremonially unclean and the clean
may eat it.

Deuteronomy 14
4 These are the animals you may eat: the ox, the sheep, the
goat,
5 the deer, the gazelle, the roe deer, the wild goat, the ibex,
the antelope and the mountain sheep.
6 You may eat any animal that has a split hoof divided in two and
that chews the cud.
7 However, of those that chew the cud or that have a split hoof
completely divided you may not eat the camel, the rabbit or the
coney. Although they chew the cud, they do not have a split
hoof; they are ceremonially unclean for you.
8 The pig is also unclean; although it has a split hoof, it does not
chew the cud. You are not to eat their meat or touch their
carcasses.
9 Of all the creatures living in the water, you may eat any that has
fins and scales.
10 But anything that does not have fins and scales you may not eat;
for you it is unclean.
11 You may eat any clean bird.
12 But these you may not eat: the eagle, the vulture, the black vulture,
13 the red kite, the black kite, any kind of falcon,
14 any kind of raven,
15 the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk,
16 the little owl, the great owl, the white owl,
17 the desert owl, the osprey, the cormorant,
18 the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat.
19 All flying insects that swarm are unclean to you; do not eat them.
20 But any winged creature that is clean you may eat.
21 Do not eat anything you find already dead. You may give it to an
alien living in any of your towns, and he may eat it, or you may
sell it to a foreigner. But you are a people holy to the LORD your
God. Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk.

1 Kings 8
5 and King Solomon and the entire assembly of Israel that had
gathered about him were before the ark, sacrificing so many sheep
and cattle that they could not be recorded or counted.
[...]
63 Solomon offered a sacrifice of fellowship offerings to the LORD:
twenty-two thousand cattle and a hundred and twenty thousand
sheep and goats. So the king and all the Israelites dedicated the
temple of the LORD.

Mark 7
18 "Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing
that enters a man from the outside can make him `unclean'?
19 For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and
then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods
"clean.")

Mark 14
12 On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when it
was customary to sacrifice the Passover lamb, Jesus' disciples
asked him, "Where do you want us to go and make preparations
for you to eat the Passover?"
13 So he sent two of his disciples, telling them, "Go into the city,
and a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him.
14 Say to the owner of the house he enters, 'The Teacher asks:
Where is my guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my
disciples?'

(refer to Exodus 12 for details about the Passover food)

Luke 2
22 When the time of their purification according to the Law of
Moses had been completed, Joseph and Mary took him to
Jerusalem to present him to the Lord
23 (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, "Every firstborn male is
to be consecrated to the Lord" ),
24 and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law
of the Lord: "a pair of doves or two young pigeons."

Luke 24
39 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see;
a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have."
40 When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet.
41 And while they still did not believe it because of joy and
amazement, he asked them, "Do you have anything here to eat?"
42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish,
43 and he took it and ate it in their presence.

John 21
4 Early in the morning, Jesus stood on the shore, but the disciples
did not realize that it was Jesus.
5 He called out to them, "Friends, haven't you any fish?" "No," they
answered.
6 He said, "Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will
find some." When they did, they were unable to haul the net in
because of the large number of fish.
[...]
9 When they landed, they saw a fire of burning coals there with fish
on it, and some bread.
10 Jesus said to them, "Bring some of the fish you have just caught."
11 Simon Peter climbed aboard and dragged the net ashore. It was full
of large fish, 153, but even with so many the net was not torn.
12 Jesus said to them, "Come and have breakfast."

Acts 10
9 About noon the following day as they were on their journey and
approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray.
10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal
was being prepared, he fell into a trance.
11 He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let
down to earth by its four corners.
12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles
of the earth and birds of the air.
13 Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."
14 "Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything
impure or unclean."
15 The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure
that God has made clean."
16 This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back
to heaven.

Romans 14
1 Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on
disputable matters.
2 One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man,
whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables.

1 Corinthians 10
25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of
conscience,
26 for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it."

dh

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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:46 -0400, "Frank Arthur" <A...@Arthurian.com> wrote:

>I notice most if not all those vegetarians are dead!

Notice also that live ones contribute to most of the same
animal deaths that everyone else does:

· Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of
wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of
buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does.
What they try to avoid are products which provide life
(and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have
to avoid the following items containing animal by-products
in order to be successful:

Tires, Paper, Upholstery, Floor waxes, Glass, Water
Filters, Rubber, Fertilizer, Antifreeze, Ceramics, Insecticides,
Insulation, Linoleum, Plastic, Textiles, Blood factors, Collagen,
Heparin, Insulin, Solvents, Biodegradable Detergents, Herbicides,
Gelatin Capsules, Adhesive Tape, Laminated Wood Products,
Plywood, Paneling, Wallpaper and Wallpaper Paste, Cellophane
Wrap and Tape, Abrasives, Steel Ball Bearings

The meat industry provides life for the animals that it
slaughters, and the animals live and die as a result of it
as animals do in other habitats. They also depend on it for
their lives as animals do in other habitats. If people consume
animal products from animals they think are raised in decent
ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the
future. People who want to contribute to decent lives for
livestock with their lifestyle must do it by being conscientious
consumers of animal products, because they can not do it by
being vegan.
From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised
steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people
get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well
over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people
get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm
machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and
draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is
likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings
derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products
contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and
better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. ·

vernono

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"Kerry Ladd" <G...@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
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Not now or ever. I love every vegetable and fruit, especially raw or
lightly cooked, BUT I eat practically any kind of meat.
Favorites
All sea food
Lamb

Kerry Ladd

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vernono wrote:

> "Kerry Ladd" <G...@Bass.gov.> wrote:

>>So the fuck what, anyway?
>> Are you a "REAL" Vegetarian" or not?
>
>
> Not now or ever. I love every vegetable and fruit, especially raw or
> lightly cooked, BUT I eat practically any kind of meat.
> Favorites
> All sea food
> Lamb

Well, I don't fall in love with any food myself! :)

However, I simply do adore eating many things.

I have limits, however.
Sea bugs, like lobster, crabs, shrimp.
No land like Cockroaches, ants, or beetles.

Lamb and goat is OK, but not a favorite of mine.
I prefer cow, pig, deer, buffalo, and Moose!
(Sorry Bullwinkle!)

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